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| I'm Not a Clinician, But... | 08 Apr 2025 | 00:29:33 | |
A LOT of the kids we're representing are being prescribed psychotropic medications - especially the older youth. John, Angela, and Deborah talk about ways children's attorneys can get more information and confidence in this area to effectively advocate for clients even if we don't have medical expertise:
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| Are 60,000 TPRs Necessary? | 14 Mar 2025 | 00:35:52 | |
In this episode, Angela interviews Professor Vivek Sankaran, Director of the Child Advocacy Law and Child Welfare Appellate Clinics at the University of Michigan's School of Law. Professor Sankaran encourages stakeholders to question whether TPR is in the best interests of as many children as we think it is. He and Angela talk about his article, The ties that bind us: An empirical, clinical, and constitutional argument against terminating parental rights, which found over 60,000 TPRs were granted annually between 2016-2019, despite a declining foster care population. While recognizing TPR is necessary in some cases, he poses some thoughtful questions for others.
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| NACC: New Tools to Elevate Your Practice | 08 Jul 2024 | 00:20:54 | |
In this episode, Angela talks with Shannon Felder, Training Director at the National Association of Counsel for Children. Listen to learn about upcoming training opportunities and ways to connect with fellow children's lawyers. And be sure to join us at the NACC conference in Salt Lake City August 12-14, 2024! We will be presenting at the preconference Children's Law Office Project Convening. We hope to see you there! Click HERE to register To learn more about NACC membership or to join, click HERE. | |||
| Objection! No One is Leading. | 24 May 2024 | 00:17:59 | |
Have you ever seen a dependency case that looks more like a tennis match? The parties volleying back and forth, waiting to see if the parents will succeed? In some jurisdictions, everyone is doing their job, but no one is leading. In this episode, we want to encourage children's attorneys to take charge. We think one of the most consequential things you can do for your clients is to think of yourself as lead counsel. Listen to learn how you can boldly step into the role of lead counsel and achieve better outcomes for your clients.
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| Let's Talk Adoption | 23 Apr 2024 | 00:14:23 | |
Some of our child clients have been talking to John and Jim about adoption, which inspired an episode about how we think of adoption as children's attorneys:
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| Placement Considerations for Children's Attorneys | 22 Mar 2024 | 00:25:39 | |
Placement decisions happen fast and are made by the agency - usually without any input from attorneys representing children. The child's placement impacts the case A LOT so we wanted to do a podcast about the things we think about when it comes to placement.
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| Can Singing in the Car Make You a Better Children's Lawyer? | 02 Feb 2024 | 00:22:10 | |
We talk about work culture and retention a lot in child welfare. Angela talks with Cathy Krebs, Director of the ABA's Children’s Rights Litigation Committee who thinks a new approach to these topics could lead to ways to improve representation. A few of the subjects covered were:
The Future of Children’s Lawyering Practical Tips for Addressing Burnout Using Reflective Case Consultation to Battle Burnout and Secondary Traumatic Stress 2021 Illinois Legal Aid Recruitment and Retention Study What Draws Attorneys to Child Welfare Practice The Case for a Centralized Office for Legal Representation in Child Welfare Cases | |||
| Takeaways from 2023 | 09 Jan 2024 | 00:17:13 | |
In this episode, Angela, John and Jim discuss a few key takeaways from 2023.
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| Messaging to Win Hearts and Minds | 21 Nov 2023 | 00:18:20 | |
Sometimes you can move a case with legal arguments and procedural tools, but other times, you have to win hearts and minds. In our newest podcast, Jim, John and Angela share how learning to message in this way can help your child client.
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| Collaborative or Adversarial? | 01 Nov 2023 | 00:13:21 | |
Angela and Jim discuss the adversarial nature of the dependency system, and how to find a balance between a collaborative and adversarial approach to representing children.
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| Three Powerful Practices | 11 Oct 2023 | 00:20:31 | |
Children's attorneys can't do it all, but in our experience, doing certain things consistently in each case can improve representation and outcomes. We call it practicing with fidelity. For our 50th Episode we wanted to give some concrete tips to our listeners. Listen to this episode to learn three actionable strategies that make a difference when repeated consistently. | |||
| Motions to Compel | 13 Sep 2023 | 00:20:09 | |
John and Angela discuss a tool that can be used to move cases forward - the motion to compel.
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| Reimagining the System with Public Knowledge | 25 Feb 2025 | 00:32:05 | |
A new book “Families Belong Together,” was released by Public Knowledge to help elevate and honor the voices of individuals with lived experience and make the case for reimagining our child welfare system. Stacey Moss, Public Knowledge President and CEO, and Will Hornsby, Senior Vice President of Delivery, talk with Angela about the group’s idea to “replace” the current system with a community-oriented, strengths-focused approach that matches the social, economic, racial, ethnic, and religious realities of each community. The book features stories of families who navigated the system, and serves as a call to action. Stacey, Will, and Angela talk about whether to keep tinkering with improvements on the current system or construct something new and different. As always, there are tips on how children’s attorneys can make an impact.
https://go.pubknow.com/families-belong-together-book Public Knowledge also has a podcast and we invite you to listen in. Click the link to access the Igniting Impact Podcast: https://pubknow.com/media-center/podcast/ | |||
| One Legal Problem | 05 Sep 2023 | 00:15:30 | |
In this episode, John, Jim and Angela discuss the cornerstone of their practice philosophy - keeping the focus on the child's number one legal problem.
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| Homelessness and Child Welfare: A Conversation with David Ambroz | 20 Jun 2023 | 00:33:15 | |
In this episode, sponsored by the National Association of Counsel for Children, Angela interviews David Ambroz, author of the memoir “A Place Called Home” and keynote speaker at the upcoming NACC Conference in Minneapolis. After growing up homeless and then in foster care, David graduated from Vassar College and later earned his J.D. from UCLA School of Law. He is now the Head of Community Engagement (West) for Amazon, a national poverty and child welfare expert and advocate, and a foster dad. In this episode, David provides a powerful perspective on the intersection of homelessness and child welfare. He talks specifically about how his attorneys impacted his journey. David also encourages people to focus on the progress being made within our admittedly imperfect systems and gives concrete strategies to continue pushing that progress forward. Join us at the NACC Conference August 10-12, 2023. Click here to register. To learn more about David Ambroz, visit his website and the website of his nonprofit, FosterMore. You can follow David on Instagram @hjdambroz and Twitter @DaveAmbroz. | |||
| When Things Go Sideways | 09 Jun 2023 | 00:15:57 | |
In this episode, Angela, John and Jim talk about how to handle those difficult cases where you get what you asked for, but it doesn't go as planned.
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| Planning for Success, Not Survival | 12 May 2023 | 00:27:25 | |
In this episode, Jim and Angela discuss using case plans to ensure the state agency is preparing your teen client for successful adulthood, rather than just meeting federal requirements for youth aging out of the child welfare system.
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| When Your Client is a Survivor of Sex Trafficking | 04 May 2023 | 00:36:34 | |
This interview starts with Prof. Emma Hetherington explaining why she thinks a huge barrier to effectively serving HT/CSEC populations is that stakeholders don't fully understand what trafficking is. In this powerful podcast, Prof. Hetherington, from the Wilbanks Child Endangerment and Sexual Exploitation Clinic at University of Georgia School of Law (CEASE Clinic), reveals how children's circumstances and behaviors need to be examined differently when exploitation and trafficking issues are involved. She discusses tips for attorneys representing HT/CSEC survivors, screening tools, the harm reduction approach, and how to build trust with youth. We hope you learn as much as we did! Here are the resources referenced in the podcast:
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| What's Next for Your Teen Client? | 29 Mar 2023 | 00:27:39 | |
In this episode, Angela, John and Jim talk about understanding your teen client, helping them set goals for their future, some ways to help them stay on track, and navigating the ups and downs when representing older youth.
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| Finding Permanency for Older Youth | 13 Feb 2023 | 00:24:49 | |
If you're representing older youth, the issues may look the same, but the perspective is likely different. We recorded this podcast to help attorneys understand how the experiences of older children impact permanency and how to move forward. We've got some practical tips on identifying what family means to teens and strategies for attorneys to guide these youth to a place that feels like home.
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| Resolutions for the New Year | 31 Dec 2022 | 00:20:49 | |
In this episode, John and Angela offer three ideas for your New Year's Resolutions.
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| NACC: More Ways to Connect | 14 Sep 2022 | 00:12:29 | |
In this episode we talk with Kristen Pisani-Jacques, the NACC's training director. We reflect on some themes from the 2022 conference in Baltimore and highlight what is coming in the online conference. The NACC Online Conference is September 21-23, 2022, and features 17 sessions. You can register for the conference here.
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| Effects of Policing on Children of Color: A Conversation with Prof. Kristin Henning | 25 Jul 2022 | 00:28:43 | |
This episode is sponsored by the National Association of Counsel for Children. Join us at the NACC annual conference in Baltimore, August 22-24, 2022. The theme is Bridging Theory to Practice: Learning and Unlearning to Drive Effective Advocacy. We hope to see you there! In this episode we talk with Professor Kristin Henning, The Blume Professor of Law and Director of the Juvenile Justice Clinic and Initiative at Georgetown Law. Professor Henning discusses the traumatic effects of policing on children of color, and how children's lawyers can respond. Professor Henning is the author of Rage of Innocence: How America Criminalizes Black Youth. She also mentioned several other resources, including Torn Apart: How the Child Welfare System Destroys Black Families--and How Abolition Can Build a Safer World, by Dorothy Roberts; Seeing What's Underneath: A Resource for Understanding Behavior and Using Language in Juvenile Court; and, for NACC members, her recent article in The Guardian, What Counsel for Children Need to Know About the Traumatic Effects of Policing (p. 31). | |||
| Feeling Unsafe When Your Placement is "Secure" | 31 Jan 2025 | 00:35:47 | |
January is National Human Trafficking Prevention Month, and we want to give children's attorneys some perspectives on advocating for child victims going forward. Angela talked to Professor Emma Hetherington, from the Wilbanks Child Endangerment and Sexual Exploitation Clinic at University of Georgia School of Law (CEASE Clinic) about how identifying the individualized needs of HT/CSEC victims can lead to better outcomes for safety and independent living. Professor Hetherington offered resources to learn more:
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| The Arriving Exercise | 28 Jun 2022 | 00:05:12 | |
This episode is a companion to Trauma and the Children's Lawyer. The arriving exercise is something you can use when you are feeling stressed out or overwhelmed. It can help you to regulate yourself so you are prepared to meet with clients, go to court, or even go home. It is not recommended that you try this while driving. Thanks to Cynthia Bowkley for this helpful tool!
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| Trauma and the Children's Lawyer | 28 Jun 2022 | 00:29:09 | |
This episode was developed in partnership with the National Association of Counsel for Children. Join us at the NACC's national conference in Baltimore August 22-24, 2022! Click HERE to learn more and register! In this episode we interview two of the presenters at the NACC conference, Cynthia Bowkley and Rebecca Stahl. Click their names for a link to their webpages. Their presentation at the conference is Trauma-Informed Interviewing, but in this episode we focus more on the role of the children's lawyer in self-regulating and understanding how trauma presents in our clients. We discuss the role of somatic experiencing as a way to help people with trauma. Click HERE for the website of Somatic Experiencing International for more information. As always, thanks for listening. If you have comments or suggestions you can message us at angela@childrenslaw.org. | |||
| Why We're Really Here: NACC's Cristal Ramirez on Youth Engagement | 02 Mar 2022 | 00:27:32 | |
In this episode, Angela talks with Cristal Ramirez, the Youth Engagement Manager at the National Association of Counsel for Children. You won't want to miss this one! Her insights on youth engagement are valuable for everyday practice and systems work. For our next episode, we are looking for a case to review on the show. If you are interested, please send your name, state and a few case details to angela@childrenslaw.org. | |||
| A New Child Welfare System: A Conversation with Public Knowledge | 28 Sep 2021 | 00:24:10 | |
In this episode, Angela talks with Stacey Obrecht, President of Public Knowledge, and David Kelly, Director of the Family Integrity & Justice Works at Public Knowledge. Listen to learn about their work and plans to replace the child welfare system as we know it. To learn more, subscribe on the Public Knowledge website. Learn more about Stacey and David below. Stacey Obrecht JD, CWLS, PMP President Cheyenne, WY Since 2021, Stacey has been the President of Public Knowledge®. Stacey is responsible for providing overall direction and leadership for Public Knowledge®, with 20 years of experience working within governmental agencies, educational institutions, and non-profit organizations. She also has extensive experience in training development and implementation; leadership assessments and coaching; organizational change management; and organizational development. Stacey received her juris doctorate from the University of Wyoming and is a certified child welfare law specialist (CWLS) and Project Management Institute (PMI) project management professional (PMP). David Kelly Director of the Family Integrity & Justice Works Hyattsville, MD Since 2021, David has been the Director of the Family Integrity & Justice Works at Public Knowledge®. David has 21 years of experience working with nonprofit and public sectors, including roles at the U.S. Children’s Bureau leading the bureau’s work with the legal and judicial community nationally and serving on leadership teams across administrations to promote justice, inclusion and voice for children youth and families, empower communities and prevent the need for unnecessary family separation. David has had prior roles serving as Director of Legal and Clinical Services for Covenant House NJ, Senior Assistant Child Advocate with the State of New Jersey Office of the Child Advocate and Assistant Staff Director and Staff Attorney at the American Bar Association Center on Children and the Law. David received his J.D. from the University at Buffalo Law School and M.A. in political science. | |||
| Your Role in Promoting Race Equity | 13 Jul 2021 | 00:31:06 | |
You won't want to miss this episode on race equity with Stephanie S. Franklin, Esq. and Kristen Pisani-Jacques, Training Director at the National Association of Counsel for Children. Stephanie Franklin is the President & CEO of the Franklin Law Group, P.C., a pioneering family justice center in Baltimore that protects the human rights of abused and neglected children in child welfare legal and policy spaces. Recently, Ms. Franklin has been selected as co-counsel in a major federal civil rights class-action lawsuit to protect the civil rights of approximately 3,000 foster care children in Baltimore City. In the episode, Angela talks with Stephanie and Kristen about specific strategies attorneys can use to promote race equity into their work with clients.
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| The NACC: Five Things You Need to Know | 25 May 2021 | 00:16:31 | |
In this episode, Angela and Jim talk with Kristen Pisani-Jacques, Training Director for the National Association of Counsel for Children. They discuss 5 issues facing children's lawyers today, and resources available from the NACC. Even if you are a member, this podcast will give you key information that is available to help you right now. Here are a few links referenced in the episode.
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| The Basics of Working with Mental Health Providers | 23 Mar 2021 | 00:23:46 | |
In this episode, Angela, John & Jim talk with Dr. Rebecca Parnell about working with different types of mental health providers. For more on Dr. Parnell, click here.
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| Takeaways from 2020 | 07 Jan 2021 | 00:21:46 | |
In this episode, Angela and John discuss some of the important lessons we learned in 2020, and how children's lawyers can carry these lessons forward to benefit children and families.
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| How to Sleep at Night | 19 Oct 2020 | 00:19:34 | |
In this episode, Angela, John and Jim discuss strategies to help children's lawyers sleep at night. These strategies focus on keeping children safe, and helping lawyers avoid burnout.
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| Domestic Violence: A Few Powerful Strategies | 17 Sep 2020 | 00:17:03 | |
In this episode, Angela, John and Jim discuss some of the risks to children in domestic violence cases. They also share a few interesting strategies you can use the next time you see one of these cases.
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| Recommit to the Work | 21 Jan 2025 | 00:22:19 | |
Children's attorneys are critically important to the functioning and success of child welfare - but it doesn't always feel that way. Why do we do it? How do you stay in this field and not burn out? Angela, John, and Jim share their perspectives and give a little pep talk to kick off 2025.
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| Racism in Child Welfare: A Conversation with Dr. Jessica Pryce | 19 Aug 2020 | 00:39:39 | |
In this episode, Angela, John & Jim talk with Dr. Jessica Pryce about racism and the child welfare system. Dr. Pryce is the Director of the Florida Institute for Child Welfare at the Florida State University College of Social Work. The discussion focuses on how children's lawyers can address overrepresentation of black families in the child welfare system. We recommend you watch Dr. Pryce's Ted Talk: To Transform Child Welfare, Take Race out of the Equation. Also, we hope you will join as at the NACC Conference beginning August 24th. Click here for more information. | |||
| A Book, a Movie and a Life Tip | 08 Jul 2020 | 00:22:51 | |
In this episode, Angela, John and Jim discuss a few books, shows and life tips that are relevant to children's lawyers and the child welfare profession. We would love to hear from you! Send your feedback or suggestions to info@childrenslaw.org. | |||
| Severe Abuse and the Pandemic | 26 May 2020 | 00:13:45 | |
In this episode, John, Jim and Angela discuss one of the most difficult types of cases lawyers face - when a client has been severely injured. With everything we are facing today, why would we take this issue on? Unfortunately, Orlando has seen a spike in severe abuse cases, even as the overall numbers of cases is on the decline. You can read more about it in the Orlando Sentinel article or Washington Post article. Increases are also being reported in Texas and Pennsylvania. We don’t know if all areas will see this spike, but we do know that most every lawyer who stays in the field long enough will be faced with a client severely injured by a parent or caregiver. This episode highlights a few key strategies and urges lawyers to do an independent review, rather than rushing to judgment.
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| Is There a Silver Lining? | 29 Apr 2020 | 00:20:26 | |
In this episode, Angela, John and Jim talk about positive developments that are occurring during the pandemic. They may be few and far between, but we are discussing them so you can focus on something positive! Share good practices with us at info@childrenslaw.org. If you are enjoying the podcast, please subscribe and share with other children's lawyers. Join our mailing list at childrenslaw.org. | |||
| Advocacy During the Pandemic: Time to Plan | 20 Apr 2020 | 00:14:41 | |
In this episode, John, Jim and Angela discuss legal strategies and practices to move your cases forward. While access to courts varies greatly around the country, there are plenty of ways you can help your clients. We are planning to record new episodes weekly to address advocacy during the pandemic, and we would love to hear from you. Let us know what topics would be helpful to you during this time. Email us at info@childrens.law.org. You can also subscribe to our email list on our website: www.childrenslaw.org. Also, click here for an article on the reduction in calls to child abuse hotlines. | |||
| Advocacy During the Pandemic | 13 Apr 2020 | 00:30:18 | |
In this episode, Angela and John talk with Kristen Pisani-Jacques, Training Director at the National Association of Counsel for Children. The NACC is hosting regular webinars regarding the response of children’s lawyers to the COVID-19 pandemic. We cover some of the most actionable ideas so you can put them to work right away.
The NACC also has a resource hub that has many resources for children’s lawyers: https://www.naccchildlaw.org/page/CoronavirusCOVID-19
The pandemic is having many effects on our clients and the important people in their lives. We hope some of these ideas will help you take the next step for your clients.
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| Takeaways from Season One | 24 Mar 2020 | 00:18:16 | |
In this episode, we wrap up Season One by picking our favorite takeaways, and introducing you to Season Two. We recognize that many of you are struggling to provide representation to your clients in this difficult time. We are working on an episode to give you strategies for now, but we know this will come to an end. And with a likely increase in cases coming our way, strategies to get children home will be sorely needed. You can reach us with ideas or questions at info@childrenslaw.org. | |||
| Implicit Bias: A Conversation with Judge Scott Bernstein, Part Two | 04 Feb 2020 | 00:17:00 | |
In our first episodes of 2020, we have a two part series with Judge Scott Bernstein. Judge Bernstein has served as a Circuit Court Judge in Miami for over 22 years. His passion is working with children and families, and he has become a regular keynote speaker in the area of implicit bias. In this episode, Judge Berstein explains implicit bias, how it affects us all, and what we can do about it.
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| Implicit Bias: A Conversation with Judge Scott Bernstein | 22 Jan 2020 | 00:21:53 | |
In our first episode of 2020, we have a two part series with Judge Scott Bernstein. Judge Bernstein has served as a Circuit Court Judge in Miami for over 22 years. His passion is working with children and families, and he has become a regular keynote speaker in the area of implicit bias. In this episode, Judge Berstein explains implicit bias, how it affects us all, and what we can do about it.
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| Cheerleading 101 - yes, you do that too | 04 Dec 2019 | 00:18:01 | |
In this episode, Angela and Bill reveal a secret—that advocating a parent’s position can in fact facilitate the quick achievement of permanency. For example, a child’s attorney ensuring a parent is promptly referred to providers will help determine whether the case plan’s services can be timely achieved.
Advocating for the parent is, of course, in the name of your client—the removed child. By moving to compel referrals for the parent, you are pushing the case to permanency within statutory timeframes. And, you are taking the lead in the litigation to further your client’s emotional stability. Thank you for listening. We value your feedback. You may email us at info@childrenslaw.org. And please subscribe and rate the podcast, so others can find us. | |||
| Safe Havens for LGBQ+ and TNGD Youth | 30 Dec 2024 | 00:28:49 | |
In 2017, the Safe Havens report was published to "Close the Gap Between Recommended Practice and Reality for Transgender and Gender-Expansive Youth in Out-of-Home Care." The report has been updated to reflect current research and resources for LGBQ+ and transgender, nonbinary, gender diverse (TNGD) youth, along with giving lived experience perspectives and a call to action. In this episode, Angela talks to two of the contributors, Elliott Hinkle of Unicorn Solutions and Emilio Valladolid, both with lived experience in the child welfare system. The Safe Havens II Report can be used as both a legal and practical resource. The podcast discussion highlighted a few:
The report will provide attorneys of all levels of experience with tools for their cases and a greater understanding of TNGD and LGBQ+ clients - check it out: https://lambdalegal.org/safe-havens-report/safe-havens-full-report/. | |||
| NACC Live: A Conversation with Leslie Starr Heimov, Part Two | 06 Nov 2019 | 00:21:15 | |
In this two part series, Angela and Bill interview Leslie Starr Heimov, Executive Director of the Children's Law Center of California. CLC is the largest children's law office in the country, representing about 33,000 children at any given time. In Part One, we talk with Leslie about caseloads, innovative practices and funding models, and strategies to keep children at home. For more information on the Family Justice Initiative, see their website here. We appreciate all of you for listening and we want to hear from you. Please email us at info@childrenslaw.org with your comments. | |||
| NACC Live: A Conversation with Leslie Starr Heimov | 29 Oct 2019 | 00:19:31 | |
In this two part series, Angela and Bill interview Leslie Starr Heimov, Executive Director of the Children's Law Center of California. CLC is the largest children's law office in the country, representing about 33,000 children at any given time. In Part One, we talk with Leslie about caseloads, innovative practices and funding models, and strategies to keep children at home. We appreciate all of you for listening and we want to hear from you. Please email us at info@childrenslaw.org with your comments. | |||
| NACC Live: A Conversation with Kim Dvorchak | 01 Oct 2019 | 00:17:07 | |
In this episode, Angela and Bill interview Kim Dvorchak, executive director of the National Association of Counsel for Children. Kim talks with us about The Children’s Law Office Project, member resources, and NACC’s vision for the future. Here are a few links for you: NACC Website: https://www.naccchildlaw.org/ Link to join: Join here! Family First Resource are here. We enjoyed meeting all of those we interviewed while recording the podcast at the NACC Conference in Anaheim. We are editing those interviews now and will share what we learned with you over future episodes. Please let us know what you think about the podcast by emailing us at info@childrenslaw.org. And thank you for listening. | |||
| Representing LGBTQ+ Clients: A Conversation with Currey Cook, Part Two | 12 Sep 2019 | 00:27:58 | |
Did you know that one in five children in the child welfare system identify as LBGTQ+? In this two part episode, Angela and Bill interview Currey Cook. Currey is the Director of the Youth in Out-of-Home Care Project and Counsel of the National Headquarters of Lambda Legal in New York. He co-authored Safe Havens: Closing the Gap Between Recommended Practice for Transgender and Gender-Expansive Youth in Out-of-Home Care, which offers practical tips to children’s lawyers working with the LGBTQ+ population.
It’s no surprise that a large percentage of foster children are LGBTQ+. Your caseload undoubtedly contains those who identify as being within this population, whether you know it or not. Prejudices and stigma place added stress on them as they work their way through the foster care system. Consequently, it is important for lawyers to ensure these children’s legal rights are protected. Doing so will ensure they are treated fairly and compassionately while in the foster care system. Currey provides insights and tips to help lawyers address these children’s issues. We appreciate all of you for listening and we want to hear from you. Please email us at info@childrenslaw.org with your comments. | |||
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