Podcast co-founders Sabra Lane and Julia Mansour record this episode on a Turkish Gulet. Swim Guide Noah Canby takes the team on a special swim. We also hear from a fellow swimmer Cerian Mellor - who sometimes commutes by swimming on the Thames.

In this episode:

Sabra Lane and Julia Mansour.

SwimTrek guide Noah Canby.

Cerian Mellor

The tow device Cerian uses while commuting on the Thames is the RuckRaft.

The Blue Room is on tour in Southern Turkey with podcast co-founders Sabra Lane and Julia Mansour sharing their holiday and thoughts on what they see, the swims and the culture.

They embark on a 5-day swimming holiday based around Kas, in the country's south (a trip booked and paid for well before they started making this podcast).

The Blue Room is taking a trip through Ireland and we visit the famous Blackrock Dive Tower at Salt Hill, Galway.

Local Laura Browne coaxes Julia into jumping into the Atlantic from the famous tower, we also meet the "King of Blackrock" Paddy McNamara as he prepares for an evening of yowling, while dishing up strawberries and cream.

The movie referenced in this chat is "The Young woman and the Sea" (2024) - about long-distance swimmer Trudy Elderle.

The Devil of a Swim on the east coast of Tasmania. Features Olympic gold medallist Shane Gould, and swimmers in the 2025 event.

In this episode I talk with Olympic Gold Medallist, Dr Shane Gould. Why does she still love swimming, how did she gain her doctorate, 'floating' to survive and what would she do if she was Prime Minister for a day?

In this episode we join the annual TOSSA cup, in the Hobart beachside suburb of Taroona. Why do people swim, what do they think about are they part of a swimming pod or tribe?

Includes;

Stuart Tanner

Julia Mansour

Cate Andrews

Joe Askey Doran

Rob Woodhouse is an Olympic champion winning bronze in the 400m Men's Individual Medley at the 1984 games. But he's also just conquered what he says was the 'hardest swim of his life'. Rob is Swimming Australia's CEO.

He talks with the Blue Room about the Oceans Seven and discusses the very serious challenge of turning around the rate of drownings in Ausrtralia, what can be done?

This episode features:

Rob Woodhouse, chief executive officer of Swimming Australia.

National Drowning Report 2025 (pdf)

https://www.royallifesaving.com.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/118273/National-Drowning-Report-2025-V2.pdf

Swimming Australia

https://www.swimming.org.au/

This episode is about three Melbourne mates and one of the world’s toughest open-water swims. 36 kilometres of salt, sweat, and setbacks. Join us as we dive into the training, the incredible 'butterflies' and unexpected chaos—like the support boat that kept breaking down. This story is more than a marathon swim, it’s a tale of mateship, endurance, and the chase for a shared dream.

Features:

Professor Andrew Steer

Dr Adam Deacon and

Professor Alex Thompson.

The Capri to Napoli website:

https://web.caprinapoli.com/

Ranya Alkadamani is a WOW and a member of the Bold and Beautiful Swim Squad at Manly, in Sydney.

Ranya started swimming in 2019 and tells us how she got into the water and why she can't do without it or the WOWs - the Women of the Wall. These women were crucial in helping Ranya through some tough times after the birth of her first son.

Ranya founded her own business, Impact Group International, she's a communications strategist with experience in corporate Australia and also federal politics. She worked with former PM and Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd.

Features:

Ranya Alkadamani

WOWs - Women of the Wall and the Bold and Beautiful Swim Squad at Manly: https://www.boldandbeautifulmanly.com.au/

Tasmanian Ivan Cunningham celebrates 1000 consecutive days of ocean swimming by holding a fundraiser for Pankind, Pancreatic Cancer Australia.

Ivan's chosen that charity as his old coach and now dear friend, Chris Wedd, has pancreatic cancer. But it is a special occasion for Chris, he's also marking five years living with stage four pancreatic cancer, a rare feat.

Features:

Ivan Cunningham - counsellor and ocean swimmer.

Chris Wedd - former swimming coach.

For more information about Pankind:

https://fundraise.pankind.org.au/home

The Blue Room has traveled to Boat Harbour on the north-west coast of Tasmania for a weekend away.

Podcast co-founders Sabra Lane and Julia Mansour head out for an early morning swim, to find themselves unexpectedly joined by a pod of curious dolphins. A local woman watched them from the shore and unexpectedly joined us in a swim de-brief, to explain what she saw and what makes this little village so special.

We also discuss the swimming themed books, movies and documentaries that Sabra's consumed during the past year.

It's an exilerating and uplifting episode talking about our own incredible experience, and the gritty, tough and influential ocean swimmers who've caught our attention.

Books mentioned:

"Winter Swimming; the Nordic way to a happier and healthier life" - Dr. Susanna Søberg.

"Chill - the cold water swim cure" - Mark Harper.

"How to wild Swim: what to know before taking the plunge" - Ella Foote.

"The Little book for wild swimmers" - Laura Silverman.

"Dr Rip's Esssential Beach Book - everything you need to know about surf, sand and rips" - Dr Rob Brander.

"Why we swim" - Bonnie Tsui.

"Waterlog" - Roger Deakin.

"Dawn" - Dawn Fraser.

"Lisa, a Memoir - 60 years of life, love and loss" - by Lisa Curry.

"Tumble Turns' - by Shane Gould.

Films:

Nyad - a 2023 film about Diana Nyad's attempts to swim from Cuba to Florida, and her successful crossing in 2013.

The Young woman and the Sea - a 2023 film about Trudy Ederle's 1926 record swim across the English Channel.

Vindication Swim - 2024 film about Mercedes Gleitze who became the first British woman to swim the English Channel in 1927.

Documentaries:

The Deepest Breath, 2023 - documentary about Italian free diver Alessia Zecchini.

Hold your breath - 2022 - a doco following free diver Johanna Nordblad as she attempts to break the world record for distance traveled under ice with one breath.

The Blue Room podcast founders Sabra Lane and Julia Mansour talk about how to prepare for swimming in cold water. They offer their tips, tricks and advice. For some, swimming in cold water is not just a winter pastime, it's something they do year-round. How to prepare, what to bring with you before and after you swim. Note: cold water swimming is not for everyone, as with other activities, there's a risk of injury and it's not suitable for everyone.

The book referenced in this episode is Winter Swimming; The Nordic Way Towards a healthier and happier Life by Dr Susanna Søberg (publisher MacLehose Press).

Other mentions:

Merry People clogs:

https://merrypeople.com/collections/billie-clog?srsltid=AfmBOoo8SWG9qb4isL-zdRKXeBpx5Kv1SkLj3ig49AsCRg-3ITImYhvR

Dry Robe:

https://dryrobe.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoq1LwKHBkJwlmjGw9MhT3yOYO4c01znsc-dtLmHnMl0G61TpuN2

Julia's fog-free goggles:

www.viewswim.com.au

Podcast creators Sabra Lane and Julia Mansour visit the Tasmanian north-west coastal town of Burnie and take a Sunday morning dip with the Burnie Sunrise ocean swim club. They're a creative, inspiring, courageous, brave and fun-loving ocean group who 'bobble' and swim.

This tribe formed in early 2025, but already it's drawn a big, local following. Local GP, Dr Anastasiia Nikitina (Messieh), set the group up and now swims most days, and on weekends brings her famous home-made ginger tea to share. Anastasiia also introduces us to the concept of "collective effervescence". Teeny Brumby talks about her introduction to swimming with the group, and how she managed to get the Governor-General of Australia, Sam Mostyn, to wetsuit up and join the group for an autumn swim. We also hear from Vas Harris. Vas sold her family home after her husband died in 2024 and decided to move back to the mainland. But the plans were binned after joining the Burnie Bobblers.

This episode neatly captures what makes community swim groups so special; the connections, courage, conversations and fun.

Features:

Dr Anastasiia Nikitina (Messieh) - founder of the Burnie sunrise ocean swim club.

Teeny Brumby - swimmer and Burnie City Council mayor.

Vas Harris - swimmer and amateur photographer VasHarris https://www.instagram.com/vasharris?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=Z3VwM2MxdXp0bXk5

Tasmanian Rob Peart recently swam the English Channel. It is a remarkable feat. Rob started swimming as an adult and he admits, he struggled to swim 100 metres. But, this channel attempt almost failed right at the end, with Rob battling tides and time - though he was blissfully unaware, and curious about why everyone on his boat was screaming their lungs out for him to swim faster.

In this episode we discuss the swim, the preparation, how Rob started swimming, what he thought about during the swim, the family of dolphins that showed up mid-channel... and the dramatic climax. He also talks about his love of swimming with his Tassie tribes.

On Tasmania’s east coast, the Bluebottles of Spring Beach bring together courage, sass, fun, fitness, and a carefree spirit. Podcaster co-founders Sabra Lane and Julia Mansour join the gang for a swim and find an uplifting group who swim, travel and live life together and warmly welcome visitors. From the yowling on Sundays, to sharing stories and supporting one another this group is all about inclusion and community.

Features:

The Spring Beach Bluebottles

Jules Scarlett

Plans are underway to return Hobart to being a Swimmable City. For thousands of years the Derwent's been used by people for swimming, bathing and fishing. In the 1800s there were a string of public pools in the the river with convicts and the gentry encouraged to bathe regularly. What is the plan? Why do it? Blueroom host Sabra Lane interviews the two people leading the campaign to return Hobart into a Swimmable City.

Allison Anderson works in Tourism and swimming is a part of her life, from being a child swimming in the Derwent. Mat Hinds is an architect - who can not imagine his life without regular emersion.

Guests:

Allison Anderson - Director, episteme.

Mat Hinds - Architect.

Swimmable Cities Hobart information:

https://www.episteme.com.au/swimming/project-one-f5w4d-tlljgpdf

Swimmable Cities Melbourne Information:

https://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/news/return-river

The Swimmable Cities Movement:

SwimmableCities.org 

A special episode of the Blue Room, recorded days after the terror attack at Bondi Beach. Three days after that, Bondi swim clubs held a swim circle - to remember the dead, pay tribute to those who saved lives - and reclaim their space.

Swimmer Lulu Cooper from the Bondi Great White Swim club helped organise the event, and spoke with podcaster Sabra Lane about the day, and what the swim tribes mean.

The Great White Swim Club:

https://www.instagram.com/greatwhiteswimclub/?hl=en

Rob Brander is Dr Rip - he's a coastal scientist at the University of NSW in Sydney. He's been educating beachgoers and kids about the surf for more than 25 years. He's written "Dr Rip's Essential Beach Book" sharing his knowledge about beaches, sand, surf and rips.

He is Australia's best known beach scientist, he has an AM for it - and the Blue Room's Sabra Lane talks with him about safety, his favourite beach and what he would if he was PM for a day, to improve beach safety.

More information:

"Dr Rip's Beach Book" - New South is the publisher.

Dr Rip's website "Science of the Surf": https://www.scienceofthesurf.com

The Blue Room is back for another season, to talk with swimmers and dippers about the joys of getting into the ocean. They're all inspiring stories, about overcoming challenges, setting personal goals to achieve, and finding awe in the sea. In this episode podcast co-founder Sabra Lane interviews Alyssa Seckinger-Crow who is a Tasmanian by choice. The 21 year old has just finished the Tasman Bridge to Ironpot swim - a great feat. But she's already achieved a number of big swims, including the English Channel. How does she do it, what does she think about when she swims, does she get tired and cold?

Save Phillip Pool is a Canberra community group that's just had a big win. The ACT government has backed down on plans to replace a 50m outdoor pool with a 25m one. Canberra woman Sarah Ransom got in touch with The Blue Room about the long-fight to save the pool. The story is one of grit, courage and determination by a group of everyday Australians who persuaded the territory government to do the right thing by its community.

Surf Life Saving Australia estimates 40 per cent of public pools will close by 2030. So the lessons learned by the Save Phillip Pool grassroots campaign might be inspirting and enlightening to others around the nation.

Featured:

Sarah Ransom - Save Phillip Pool campaign

This issue explores: Phillip Pool, swimming, pool swimming, mental health, community swimming, access to public swimming pools, ACT government, independent MP Fiona Carrick, urban development, ACT Aquatic strategy.

More information:

Save Phillip Pool - Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/savephillippool/

Royal Surf Living Saving Australia - 500 Pools may Close

https://www.royallifesaving.com.au/about/news-and-updates/news/2024/mar/500-public-pools-may-close-without-strategic-investment

The Blue Room is on tour visiting Victoria's Bellarine Peninsula during Christmas 2025. And what better way to experience the coast here than swim with the famous Salty Bitches? This is a tribe of fun, inspiring and brave women (mainly) who love celebrating life by dipping daily in the sea off Indented Head. This tribe's joined up with the local Indented Head yachting fraternity and won a government grant to refurbish the ageing club. For the swimmers that means a great place to change, get warm with a hot shower, coffee and toast and importantly, chat post-swim. The teaming up of these two community-based groups could provide lessons to other towns around Australia on how to collaborate and benefit the whole community. This episode also includes a beautiful piece of creative writing by Gabrielle Maloney on what swimming means to her.

Features:

The Salty Bitches

Roslyn McIntyre

Gabrielle Moloney

Heather Bisset

Guest interviewers: Amanda and Nina

Brendan Cullen works on an outback sheep farm near Broken Hill in NSW. In 2015 he sought help at the local hospital, not knowing what was wrong with himself. He was diagnosed with severe depression. Also that same year, he watched his brother compete in an open-water swim and he thought; "I want some of that". But how do you train for marathon swims, like the English Channel, when you live 600km from the nearest coast? Brendan's just published a book about his life, and how he trained to swim one of the world's most famous stretches of ocean. Brendan talks with the Blue Room's Sabra Lane about the book and his inspirational life.

Content warning: there is some swearing in this episode and we discuss mental health. If you need to talk with someone about poor mental health, you can call Lifelife on 13 11 14.

Topics:

Swimming, English Channel, joy, inspiration, ocean swimming, open water competitions, training, severe depression, friendship, swimming tribes.

At just 20 years old, Miu Tanaka is balancing university life in Sydney with record-breaking achievements in marathon swimming. The elite open water swimmer has already secured a series of remarkable firsts in Australia’s most challenging aquatic challenges.

Miu Tanaka is the first woman to complete the demanding swim from New Norfolk to Bruny Island in Tasmania. She also became the first woman to conquer Tasmania’s Great Lake on the Central Highlands Plateau—one of the region’s most challenging cold-water swims.

In an extraordinary milestone, Miu is also the first woman to complete the Australian Triple Crown of marathon swimming in a single season, cementing her place among the country’s top endurance swimmers.

In an interview with Sabra Lane on The Blue Room, Miu shares insights into her marathon swims, what drives her to push physical and mental limits, and how she stays focused during long-distance challenges. She also reveals why swimming at night is her favourite part of the sport.

Discover how Miu Tanaka is redefining marathon swimming in Australia through resilience, passion, and record-breaking performances. And what is her next marathon swim?

Five years ago, a group of women waded into the cold waters of Tasmania and found something much bigger than a swim. Meet the Kingston Beach Sea Hags: a bold, joyful community bound by saltwater, courage, and connection. This podcast dives beneath the surface of “just a bobble” to explore the magic of cold water, the rhythm of “chat-stroke,” and the quiet power of showing up for one another—again and again.

Through choppy mornings, laughter-filled dips, and the kind of friendships that buoy you long after you’ve dried off, the Sea Hags have built something extraordinary. This episode is about bravery in its many forms—stepping into icy water, stepping into community, and stepping up for each other.

If you’ve ever wondered what draws people into the sea at dawn—or what keeps them coming back—this is your invitation to find out.

Because sometimes, the coldest water creates the warmest bonds.

Features:

Annie Wolfe

Jacqui McElwee

Jayne

Helen Kwiecien - co-founder, Sea Hags

Janine Beck, Original Sea Hag

Joanna Butterley

Mentions:

The Sea Hags, Kingston Beach, courage, cold water swimming, ocean swimming, ocean bobbling, chat-stroke, inspirational swimmers, inspirational women, health.

The Blue Room's guest is Alison Orme and what has become 'a highlight of her life'. What started as a simple invite to friends to swim in some of Sydney's spectacular ocean pools became something much bigger. From discovering Harbour pools, to Sydney's ocean pools, pools along the NSW coastline, lidos in the UK and soon pools in France. Alison tells the Blue Room how this passion started, and how she thinks ocean pools are part of her DNA. It's a story of curiosity, friendship, fun and adventure.

Features:

Alison Orme, SOPS founder.

Sabra Lane - the Blue Room.

Themes:

ocean swimming, wild swimming, ocean pools, lidos, Merimbula Blue Pool, adventure swimming, friendship, inspiration.

It's a question pod host Sabra Lane is often asked; how to you become confident to swim in the open water? The Blue Room joins the Kingston Beach Surf Life Saving club in Tasmania, as the 'Dragons Swim Pod' graduates. The club has run a 10-week program aimed at getting swimmers confident to swim in the ocean. We join the pod on their final graduation swim, and talk with the trainers and trainees about the course and how they've progressed after 10 weeks of training.

Features:

Polly Marriott, pod member.

Peter McKenna, swimming trainer at Kingston Beach Surf Life Saving Club.

Sam Cummins, pod member.

Maree Farquar, pod member.

Sandra Gadsby, swimming trainer at Kingston Beach Surf Life Saving Club.

Themes:

Kingston Beach, Boronia Beach, Kingston Beach Surf Life Saving Club, open water swimming, confidence in ocean swimming, fun in the water, inspirational swimming, outdoor swimming, cold water swimming, nature swimming experiences, swimming resilience, community sports podcast.

The Blue Room visits the 2026 Devil of a Swim, relocated this year from Bicheno to Coles Bay. Also visiting the tourist hotspot, the Coledale Oysters from NSW. The Oysters heard about the swim on the Blue Room in 2025 and made a pact to join this year's competition. Afterwards they joined podcast host and swimmer Sabra Lane for a special 'live' recording of the episode at Coles Bay to talk about the 5km swim, how they started ocean swimming, what they get out of being in the water - and importantly swimming with their buddies.

Features:

Lawrence Stubbs, Coledale Oysters.

Mel Berry, Coledales Oysters.

Rob Balmer, Coledale Oysters.

Themes:

ocean water swimming, open water swimming, inspiration, competition, 2026 Devil of a Swim, Bicheno, Coles Bay, Kingston Beach Surf Life Saving Club, inspirational swimming, nature swimming experiences, resilience, community sports podcast, fun in the water, Loch Ness.