Clinical psychologist, PhD student and AuDHDer, Aaron Howearth chats about Autism, ADHD and their combination in humans, framed within their lived experience, their work in clinical psychology, and the neurodiversity-affirming paradigm.
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🎙️ Episode 29 — Work, Burnout & Ableism: Why So Many of Us Aren't Employed
Episode Summary
If we are different and not defective, why are so many of us unemployed, underemployed, or exhausted at work? In this episode, Aaron Howearth (Clinical Psychologist) works through the employment gap for neurodivergent people — and makes the case that it is structural, not a matter of effort or willingness.
We start with the numbers. Around three in ten autistic adults are employed in UK research, roughly half in Australia, and in the Netherlands the most common employment trajectory across thousands of autistic people was long-term unemployment. ADHD sits differently in the data, with productivity loss, injury, and time off carrying much of the cost. What ties it together is a person-environment mismatch — and the uncomfortable finding that most interventions still try to change the person rather than the workplace, even though environmental change is what actually shifts employment outcomes.
From there we get into burnout as a mechanism. We work through what autistic burnout actually is — chronic exhaustion, skills loss, reduced tolerance for sensory and cognitive demands, nonlinear and often long-term — how it must be differentiated from depression, anxiety, trauma responses and personality differences without excluding them, and why the withdrawal looks different (recovery, not amotivation). We are careful with masking: it is associated with burnout and likely a leading mechanism, but the causal evidence isn't there yet. We also name the thin ground honestly — ADHD burnout is a clinical and community idea without a defining study, and AuDHD burnout has almost no academic literature at all.
Then we turn upstream to ableism: the assumption that able-bodied and typical means right, normal, and appropriate, and that anything else is deficient. That shows up bluntly (employers who say they would not hire an autistic person under any circumstances) and subtly (be quiet, slow down, be more cheerful) — and both feed masking, stress, and burnout. We extend the double empathy problem to triple empathy in professional settings, where the mismatch is with colleagues and managers too, not just clients. Finally, we get practical: what accommodations actually cost, why everyone already uses accommodations, what to ask for, and how to plan recovery before you run out of spoons.
In This Episode (Chapters)
(00:00) Different, not defective — so why aren't so many of us employed?
(01:00) The employment gap is real and structural: UK, Australia, US, Netherlands
(03:30) ADHD and work: productivity loss, injury, and time off
(04:30) Barriers are structural, not effort-related
(05:30) Why interventions change the person instead of the environment
(07:00) Autistic burnout: Raymaker, Higgins, and what it actually looks like
(09:00) Differentiating burnout from depression, anxiety and trauma responses
(10:30) Why late diagnosis changes the presentation
(11:30) Masking and burnout: associated, not proven causal
(13:30) Recovery withdrawal vs depressive withdrawal
(15:00) ADHD burnout: a clinical idea without a defining study
(16:00) AuDHD burnout: almost no evidence base at all
(17:00) Who is most at risk: gender, and co-occurring conditions
(18:00) What ableism is, and why it drives everything upstream
(20:00) Over half of employers say they wouldn't hire an autistic person
(21:30) The subtle version: "be quiet", "slow down", "be more cheerful"
(24:00) Minority stress, cumulative feedback, and why our masking is safety-related
(26:00) Double empathy at work — and the triple empathy problem for professionals
(28:30) "Why should you get accommodations?" — the stairs and the lift
(30:00) What accommodations actually cost: mostly free, average around USD $300
(35:30) Disclosure: entirely your call, and how to open the conversation
(37:30) What employers can do to make disclosure less frightening
(38:30) Planning recovery before you run out of spoons — closing reflection
Key Takeaways
The employment gap is structural, not motivational. Roughly three in ten autistic adults are employed in UK research, about half in Australia, and long-term unemployment was the most common trajectory in a large Netherlands study. Nobody is sitting at home deciding they can't be bothered.
ADHD shows up differently in the data — around 21 to 22 extra days of lost productive work a year, plus higher rates of injury and time off — rather than as outright exclusion.
Most employment interventions try to change the person. The research points the other way: changing the work environment substantially increases neurodivergent employment.
Autistic burnout is chronic exhaustion, skills loss, and reduced tolerance for sensory, social and cognitive demands, arising from unsupported person-environment mismatch. It is debilitating, nonlinear, and often long-term with spikes.
It must be differentiated from depression, anxiety, trauma responses and personality differences — but the presence of those does not exclude autism, ADHD or AuDHD. Burnout withdrawal is recovery-seeking; depressive withdrawal is amotivation and hopelessness.
Masking is associated with burnout and is likely a leading mechanism, but the causal evidence is not there yet. It's said plainly in the episode: the relationship is real, the causal claim isn't earned.
ADHD burnout is an idea in clinical, community and advocacy circles without a defining study, and AuDHD burnout has almost no academic literature. That gap is named rather than papered over.
Ableism is the upstream driver: the assumption that typical ability is right and normal, and difference is deficient. Over half of employers in one study said they would not employ an autistic person under any circumstances.
The subtle version does the quiet damage — "be quiet", "slow down", be more expressive, be more cheerful — accumulating as minority stress, which drives masking, which drives burnout.
Double empathy extends into the workplace as triple empathy: research on young GPs found communication difficulty with colleagues and managers, not only with clients.
Everyone already uses accommodations. Stairs, lifts and escalators are accommodations for capacities humans don't have. We are just further from the middle of the human road, so we need a few more.
Accommodations are cheap — most are free, averaging around USD $300 — and quiet spaces, headphones, redistributed breaks, permitted stimming, clear routines and flexible or online work all support engagement.
Neurodiversity-affirming does not mean nobody has support needs. Some of us need considerably more support than others, and that has to stay visible.
Disclosure is entirely personal and case by case. Where it feels safe, framing it as a shared problem to solve makes it a win for both sides — and employers can make those conversations normal so disclosure stops being frightening.
Plan recovery before you need it. Build restoration into the day, week or month rather than waiting until the spoons are gone.
A Note on the Evidence
Today's discussion draws on a mix of peer-reviewed research (strongest for autistic employment outcomes, autistic burnout, and accommodations), thinner and largely non-definitive material on ADHD burnout, and clinical and lived-experience observation where the literature does not yet reach — particularly for AuDHD burnout, where academic evidence is close to absent. Where a claim is associational rather than causal, or clinical rather than trial-based, that's named clearly in the episode.
Disclaimer
This episode is general educational and advocacy information only. It is not individualised or tailored therapy, assessment, advice, or employment or legal guidance. If you need support, please speak with your GP or a registered practitioner in your area.
Thanks for listening, and remember — we are different, not defective.
🎙️ Ep 28 — Relationships: Friendship, Loneliness & Intimacy Across Neurotypes
"It's not meeting my needs. It's not meeting your needs. It's meeting our needs in the best balance for us"
⚠️ Content note: this episode includes brief discussion of trauma, including sexual trauma.
If we're different and not defective, why do so many of us find relationships hard? In this episode, Aaron Howearth (Clinical Psychologist) sits with that question and works through friendship, loneliness, and intimacy across neurotypes — not as evidence of a deficit inside us, but as something that lives in the space between us and the people we're trying to connect with.
We start with what the research bears out: on average, autistic people report being lonelier and having fewer, lower-quality friendships — though this varies enormously from person to person, and many of us genuinely prefer smaller, higher-quality networks. From there we get into the double empathy problem: the idea that communication difficulties aren't a one-sided skills deficit, but a two-way mismatch, like speaking the same language in a slightly different dialect. When neurotype-matched pairs communicate, that difficulty largely disappears — which tells us it's a language barrier, not a broken person. We look at why community is protective, why masking costs us, and why the evidence is stronger for autism than ADHD, with only grey-literature hints that double empathy extends to ADHD too.
We then turn to intimacy across neurotypes — comparable desire for connection, but real barriers around sensory sensitivity, communication style, and a statistically higher likelihood of trauma. Finally, we bring in Gottman's work on partner responsiveness (turning towards vs turning away) and a warm-hug framing of attachment styles, landing on the most practical lever of all: understanding how you and your partner work, and meeting needs in the balance that's right for your context.
In This Episode (Chapters)
Ep 27: AuDHD Experience - Therapy Adaptations for Neurodivergent Folk (AuDHD, ADHD & Autism) — What's the Point?
🎙️ Ep 27: AuDHD Experience - Therapy Adaptations for Neurodivergent Folk (AuDHD, ADHD & Autism) — What's the Point?
"Barriers aren't a 'you' problem — they're an 'us' problem to manage together."
Hi friends. If neurodivergent people are already showing up to therapy, why do affirming adaptations even matter? In this solo episode I work through that question from my own clinical experience and lived experience as an AuDHD psychologist. We map the barriers that keep neurodivergent people out of the therapy room — physical, psychological, emotional, sensory, and cognitive — and then walk back through the same five to look at small, practical, often low-cost changes that make care genuinely accessible. From externalising working memory and body doubling, to trauma-informed safety, non-fluorescent lighting, situational mutism, and a cushion instead of new chairs, this one is for neurodivergent listeners deciding what to ask for, and for clinicians wanting to do better.
A note on the evidence: I'm speaking mostly from clinical and lived experience here, not a deep RCT base. Where I mention that neurodivergent people "endorse" adapted approaches as helpful, that's about acceptability and client-rated helpfulness — how much people value these adaptations — not proven treatment efficacy or effect sizes. The main study behind that point is Paynter, Sommer & Cook (2025), who asked autistic adults to rate the helpfulness of specific therapy adaptations. The passage on perimenopause and sensory gating is an emerging, still-contested area, not settled science — hold it lightly.
Takeaways: • There's no single "neurodivergent barrier" — physical, psychological, emotional, sensory, and cognitive access all matter, and they stack. • Affirming therapy is trauma-informed by default; many of us carry complex stress and iatrogenic harm from past care. • Speech is never a choice — situational mutism is overwhelm, not defiance. • Meltdowns are overwhelm, and what looks like social anxiety or agoraphobia is often sensory-cognitive overload.• Most adaptations are cheap: in-session alarms, chunking information, body doubling, dimmable lights, a cushion, starting on time.• Clients: you're allowed to ask for a reasonable accommodation. Clinicians: mostly, just ask.
Ep 26: Understanding Neurodivergence (AuDHD, Autism & ADHD) - More Than Diagnosis
🎙️ Episode 26: Understanding Neurodivergence - More Than Diagnosis
"I can be autistic without autism spectrum disorder, in the same way that I can have legs without being broken."
Summary:
In this episode of The AuDHD Psych Podcast, clinical psychologist and AuDHDer Aaron Howearth takes on a question sparked by a challenge on social media: can you identify as autistic without holding a formal diagnosis of Autism Spectrum Disorder? The answer is yes — and in this episode, Aaron unpacks exactly why, drawing on clinical definitions, diagnostic criteria, the neurodiversity-affirming paradigm, and his own lived experience as an autistic ADHDer and former Navy serviceperson.
Aaron begins by untangling three terms that are often conflated: neurodiversity, neurodivergent, and diagnosis. He explains that neurodiversity — like biodiversity — simply refers to the natural range of cognitive styles that exist across humans, while neurodivergent describes a brain that functions differently from the neurotypical majority. Autism, he argues, is a cluster of cognitive characteristics — not a disorder by default. Autism Spectrum Disorder, on the other hand, is the diagnostic label that applies only when those characteristics cause functional difficulties in the person's life.
Drawing on Damian Milton's Double Empathy Problem, Aaron explores how social and communicative differences in autism are not inherent deficits, but mismatches between communication styles — a dialect problem, not a language problem. He walks through how the same characteristic (say, cognitive rigidity or impulsivity) can function as both a strength and a barrier depending on the environment, using vivid examples from his own clinical work and time in the Navy.
Aaron also addresses the claim that autism diagnosis is "not a social construct," offering a clinical and philosophical unpacking of what a social construct actually is — and why diagnosis, by its very nature, fits that definition. He closes by emphasising that a neurodiversity-affirming perspective does not deny difficulty; it contextualises it. A person's expression of their characteristics as strengths or challenges will always interact with physical health, social inclusion, life stress, and environment.
Ep 25: AuDHD Experience - Neurodiversity-Affirming Practice
🎙️ Episode 25: AuDHD Experience - Neurodiversity-Affirming Practice
"Neurodiversity-affirming practice" is now on almost every clinician's website here in Australia and around the world — but what does it actually mean, and what should it look like in the room? In this episode, Aaron Howearth (Clinical Psychologist) unpacks affirming practice not as a marketing label, but as a genuine reorientation of how we understand, formulate, and work alongside neurodivergent people.
We start with the conceptual foundations: relocating difficulty away from the individual and into the mismatch between a person and an environment that demands they be someone they're not. From there we walk through the domains where affirming practice actually shows up — formulation, language, collaborative goal-setting, therapeutic-style fit, and environmental adaptation — using the five Ps formulation and plenty of lived-experience examples along the way. We then name clearly what affirming practice is not: relabelling old deficit-focused work, abandoning clinical reasoning, avoiding difficulty, or imposing an affirming frame on someone who hasn't asked for it.
Finally, we offer six practical markers you can use to tell whether the care you're giving or receiving is genuinely affirming — and an honest note on where the evidence base currently sits. As always, this is general educational information, not individualised therapy or advice.
In This Episode (Chapters)
(00:00) Welcome and why affirming practice matters
(01:30) What the research tells us — and where the evidence base is thin
(03:00) Affirming practice as a reorientation, not a new treatment model
(04:30) Relocating disability: the environmental mismatch
(06:00) What we're actually trying to do in therapy (and what we're not)
(08:00) The domains of affirming practice: formulation, language, goals, adaptation
(09:30) Identity-first vs person-first language
Ep 24 AuDHD Experience - Late Diagnosis & Identity reconstruction
🎙️ Episode 24: AuDHD Experience - Late Diagnosis and Identity Reconstruction
"After a lifetime of feeling wrong, broken, like a weirdo, along comes late diagnosis — but that's the doorway, not the destination."
In this episode of AuDHD Psych, Aaron explores late diagnosis and identity reconstruction for autistic, ADHD and AuDHD people — why so many of us are found so late, and how we rebuild a sense of self afterwards. Drawing on the research and his own experience, he unpacks why late diagnosis is the norm rather than a personal failing, how internalising presentations and masking keep us under the radar, and why our diagnostic criteria, built around externalising behaviour, miss so many of us for decades. He looks at the double feeling of diagnosis — relief and grief arriving together — and at diagnosis as something that confirms who we already were rather than changing us. He also handles the borderline personality disorder pathway carefully, as a frequent misdiagnosis and conceptual overlap rather than a relabelling, while naming the stigma that does real harm.
Takeaways:
Late diagnosis is the norm, not the exception — being missed for years is what the research predicts, not evidence that you were ever fine. You weren't missed because you're not neurodivergent; you were missed because you didn't present the way the criteria expected.
Our diagnostic criteria were built around externalising presentations in academic and clinical settings, creating an observation bias — so people who internalise, the author included, fly under the radar until the science catches up with the lived experience.
Masking hides our characteristics, and higher masking predicts later diagnosis — the more we mask, the less we show up against the criteria. That same effort drains the cognitive and emotional energy we need for daily life, pushing us toward burnout, overwhelm, anxiety and, for some, depression and self-harm risk.
Masking carries a heavier cost where we're raised to be "socially acceptable," which is part of why we talk about masculine and feminine presentations when we really mean externalising and internalising ones.
Ep 23: AuDHD Experience - Joy, Strengths and Quality of Life
🎙 Episode 23: AuDHD Experience - Joy, Strengths and Quality of Life
"Strengths-based framings sit alongside, not instead of, our support needs — so keep both ideas in mind."
In this episode of AuDHD Psych, Aaron explores joy, strengths, and quality of life for AuDHDers — moving past both the deficit-and-disorder framing and the neurodivergent-superpower narrative to find the partial truth in each. Drawing on recent research, he unpacks the strengths autistic and ADHD people endorse (pattern recognition, hyperfocus, humour, creativity), how flow, hyperfocus, and monotropism overlap, and why our strengths are linked to well-being when we name and use them. He also looks at what genuinely lifts quality of life — affirming relationships, good environmental fit, support, and community — while warning against environments that extract our strengths without supporting our needs.
Takeaways:
Neither the deficit-and-disorder framing nor the superpower narrative is the full truth — strengths-based framings sit alongside, not instead of, our support needs.
Research backs the strengths neurodivergent people describe: autistic strengths like pattern recognition, detail orientation, systematising, deep expertise, and a justice orientation; ADHD strengths like hyperfocus, humour, and creativity, endorsed well above the typical community.
Strengths are linked to well-being — first by knowing and naming them, then by using them in your life. ADHD creativity and divergent thinking are also linked to real-world achievement and even deliberate mind-wandering.
Flow, hyperfocus, and monotropism share much of the same terrain — feeling good in the doing and getting to unmask — but it's a dose-response curve: restorative up to a point, then a driver of burnout.
Monotropism appears to be transdiagnostic, scoring above the general population in both autistic people and ADHDers, and underpins special interests as a well-being variable.
Autistic adults score lower across all four WHO well-being domains, with autistic women carrying a disproportionate burden — but employment, support, and relationships are concrete, observable improvers.
Ep 22: AuDHD Experience – Suicidality & Protective Factors
⚠️ Content note: This episode discusses suicide and suicidal thoughts directly and at length. It is general education, not personal advice. If this feels like a lot, please pause and reach out to a support service (Australian helplines listed at the end).
In this episode of the AuDHD Psych Podcast, clinical psychologist Aaron Howearth explores why suicidality risk is higher in neurodivergent communities — and why that risk is not inherent to being autistic, ADHD, or AuDHD. Drawing on clinical work, lived experience, and recent research, Aaron is clear that elevated risk is an outcome of the interaction between neurodivergent people and environments that don't accommodate them. The through-line of the whole conversation: we are different, not defective, and it's not your fault.
Aaron unpacks the mechanisms behind heightened risk — constant masking leading to defeat and entrapment, thwarted belonging and a sense of burdensomeness, isolation and minority stress, and unmet support needs. He then turns to crisis care and affirming support, with a direct message to clinicians about flat affect, sensory-hostile environments, and the difference between autism, ADHD, AuDHD and trauma. The episode closes on hope: the protective factors and practical safety-planning scripts that can genuinely reduce risk.
Key Themes & Takeaways
Risk Is Real, Not Inherent – Suicidality is elevated in neurodivergent communities, but it reflects environmental mismatch and accumulated stress, not a flaw in the person.
Masking → Defeat → Entrapment – Constant camouflaging is exhausting and, when reinforced over time, can drive feelings of defeat and entrapment.
Belonging & Burdensomeness – Thwarted belonging and a sense of being "a burden" can heighten risk, especially alongside complex trauma histories.
Isolation & Minority Stress – Social exclusion, sensory load, and the extra stresses of being a disempowered group compound over time.
Crisis Care Can Fail Us – Flat affect being misread and sensory-hostile crisis settings can drive disengagement from support.
Ep 21: AuDHD Experience - Trauma, CPTSD & Systems Harm
What if you're not "too much," "too complex," or "treatment resistant"? What if the very systems designed to help neurodivergent people are inadvertently causing harm instead?
In this episode, Aaron explores the deep intersection between neurodivergence and trauma — and why so many AuDHDers, autistic folks, and ADHDers find themselves stuck in cycles of misdiagnosis, invalidation, and burnout.
What we cover
The difference between big T trauma (PTSD) and complex trauma (cPTSD), and why complex trauma is so prevalent in neurodivergent communities
Why neurodivergent people are statistically more exposed to trauma, bullying, social exclusion, and adverse childhood experiences (ACEs)
How diagnostic overshadowing leads clinicians to mislabel trauma responses as personality disorders — or dismiss them entirely
The structural harms baked into school systems, healthcare, and historical practices like ABA
How masking, allostatic load, and burnout compound trauma and erode identity
Why service avoidance is often a reasonable response to repeated invalidation
The link between systems harm, hopelessness, and elevated suicidality in our communities
Practical scripts for advocating with GPs, psychologists, and other clinicians when you feel unheard
Key takeaway
The "complexity" so often attributed to neurodivergent clients usually isn't about us — it's about a mismatch between our characteristics, our histories, and systems built for someone else. Understanding trauma and neurodivergence together makes the "complex" much less complex.
Content warning
This episode discusses trauma, complex trauma, interpersonal violence, school bullying, healthcare harm, and suicidality at a conceptual level. Please pause and reach out to a support service if needed:
Ep20: AuDHD Experience - Misdiagnosis, BPD & Mental Health in Late-Diagnosed Adults
Episode 20: AuDHD Explained — Misdiagnosis, BPD & Mental Health in Late-Diagnosed Adults
In this episode of the AuDHD Psych Podcast, clinical psychologist Aaron Howearth and co-host Dan unpack why mental health diagnosis is so complex for AuDHDers, and why so many of us collect a stack of labels — depression, generalised anxiety, borderline personality disorder, bipolar, treatment-resistant depression — before Autism and ADHD are ever properly considered. Drawing on clinical work, lived experience, and the qualitative research literature, Aaron explains how diagnostic overshadowing happens, why internalising presentations are most at risk of misdiagnosis, and what genuinely neurodiversity-affirming assessment looks like in practice.
Aaron and Dan work through the mechanics of overshadowing — how a clinician's existing diagnostic lens quietly re-explains every new symptom and closes the door on alternative formulations — and the elevated mental health risks that ride alongside AuDHD, including anxiety, depression, self-harm and suicidality. They examine why biological females and internalising males are disproportionately mislabelled with borderline personality disorder when emotional impulsivity, rejection sensitivity and rigid thought patterns are actually expressions of an undiagnosed AuDHD profile. They then move into the practical: how to script questions for your clinician without it landing as an attack, why differential diagnosis and formulation are the antidote to overshadowing, and how late diagnosis reframes self-concept from "bad person, not trying hard enough" to environment-fit. Throughout, the conversation returns to the affirming reframe — difficulties arise from the mismatch between who you are and what the environment expects, not from a defective self.
Key Themes & Takeaways
Co-occurrence Is the Rule, Not the Exception – Around 40% of autistic people have a co-occurring mental health condition, ADHDers are similarly elevated, and AuDHDers sit at higher risk again for anxiety, depression, self-harm and suicidality.
Diagnostic Overshadowing Defined – Once a clinician holds one diagnostic lens, new symptoms get re-explained through it, and alternative formulations stop being considered.
(00:00) Different, not defective — so why are relationships hard?
(00:45) Friendship and loneliness: what the research bears out
(02:00) Fewer but higher-quality friends — and why that's often a preference
(02:45) A spectrum of understanding, not a skills deficit
(03:30) Same language, different dialect: where nuance gets lost
(04:15) The thin evidence base for ADHD and friendship
(05:00) Masking costs us; community is protective
(06:00) The double empathy problem, and how it was tested
(08:00) Why it's a language barrier, not a broken person
(09:00) Does double empathy extend to ADHD? A pragmatic argument
(10:30) Intimacy across neurotypes: comparable desire, real barriers
(11:30) Sensory sensitivity, communication, and trauma (content note)
(13:00) It's not always "because I'm autistic" — stress and history matter
(14:00) Gottman, turning towards vs turning away, and bids for connection
(17:00) Partner responsiveness: the strongest lever we can pull
(18:30) Attachment as a big warm hug: secure, avoidant, anxious, disorganised
(21:00) ADHD, conflict, and satisfaction — statistical, not deterministic
(23:00) The push-pull cycle of anxious and avoidant partners
(25:00) Higher risk of interpersonal stress and how it shapes attachment
(26:30) What we can do: naming our style, our needs, and our part
(28:00) Boundaries as meeting our needs in balance — closing reflection
Key Takeaways
The difficulty usually isn't in us — it lives in the interaction. Relational difficulty is a mismatch between communication styles, not an inherent deficit.
On average, autistic people report more loneliness and fewer, lower-quality friendships — but this varies widely, and many of us genuinely prefer small, high-quality networks. Loneliness drops with better friends, not necessarily more of them.
The double empathy problem reframes "social deficits" as social differences: neurotype-matched pairs communicate without significant impairment; the difficulty arises when different neurotypes meet. It's a contested idea, but a simple, elegant one.
Masking costs us — it raises stress. Being around community is protective because our communication styles align more closely, so we feel heard, understood, and connected.
The evidence base is strongest for autism; ADHD friendship research is thin, mostly in children and college students. Double empathy probably extends to ADHD (a pragmatic, clinical argument), via verbal impulsivity rather than filtering.
Intimacy: desire for connection is comparable to the general community, but barriers around sensory sensitivity, communication, and a higher likelihood of trauma can get in the way — often it's stress or history amplifying the dynamic, not the neurotype itself.
Partner responsiveness is the single strongest determinant of healthy neurodivergent relationships. Turning towards small bids for connection — even a "mm-hmm, yes dear" — builds trust; consistently turning away erodes it.
Attachment is about trusting that our needs will be met. Secure, avoidant, anxious, and disorganised (anxious-avoidant) styles play out in a push-pull cycle — and our higher risk of interpersonal stress and trauma can push us toward insecure attachment.
The practical work: ask what my attachment and relational style are, what I expect, what I might be doing that makes my partner pull away — and the reverse. Then have the conversation. Boundaries aren't about my needs or your needs; they're about meeting our needs in the best balance for our context.
A Note on the Evidence
Today's discussion draws on a mix of peer-reviewed research (strongest for autism, and for the double empathy work), grey literature (particularly for any extension to ADHD), and lived-experience and clinical observation. Where the ADHD-and-friendship evidence is thin, or where the argument is pragmatic rather than trial-based, that's named clearly in the episode.
Disclaimer
This episode is general educational and advocacy information only. It is not individualised or tailored therapy, assessment, or advice. Aaron does not provide relationship counselling. If you need support, please speak with your GP or a registered practitioner in your area.
Thanks for listening, and remember — we are different, not defective.
If this was useful, please share it with a clinician who needs to hear it — that's the single best way to get affirming care to more people.
📚 Reference: Paynter, J., Sommer, K., & Cook, A. (2025). How can we make therapy better for autistic adults? Autistic adults' ratings of helpfulness of adaptations to therapy. Autism. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/13623613251313569
Educational content only — this is not therapy or personalised clinical advice.
Neurodiversity vs Neurodivergent vs Diagnosis — Why these three terms are distinct, and why conflating them creates confusion about identity, language, and clinical need.
Autism vs Autism Spectrum Disorder — Autism refers to a profile of cognitive characteristics; ASD is diagnosed only when those characteristics cause functional difficulties.
Diagnosis as Social Construct — A clinical and philosophical explanation of why all diagnostic frameworks, including ASD, are socially constructed — and why that doesn't undermine their validity or usefulness.
The Double Empathy Problem — Milton's framework explaining that autistic communication difficulties emerge from mismatch, not from inherent deficit; neurotypical people experience the same difficulty in autistic-majority environments.
Valence-Neutral Characteristics — Every autistic or ADHD characteristic is contextually neutral: the same trait can be adaptive in one environment and a barrier in another.
Cognitive Bandwidth & Masking — How the implicit effort of operating in a neurotypical world consumes cognitive resources, raising baseline stress and reducing capacity for flexibility.
Formulation Thinking — Why a neurodiversity-affirming lens requires us to account for the interaction between characteristics and everything else in a person's life: sleep, health, social safety, and stress.
Referenced Concepts
DSM-5 diagnostic criteria for Autism Spectrum Disorder
Damian Milton's Double Empathy Problem
The neurodiversity-affirming paradigm
Social and relational models of disability
We are different, not defective.
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(10:30) The five Ps formulation, worked through as a personal example
(15:00) Building treatment plans that align with the client's goals
(18:00) Why suppressing natural ways of being costs us — masking, burnout, safety
(20:30) Adapting the therapy itself: the person–therapy fit and homework
(24:00) What is NOT neurodiversity-affirming practice
(28:00) Six markers of affirming care
(34:00) Outcomes: quality of life, not typicality
(36:00) A closing reflection and an honest note on the evidence
Key Takeaways
Affirming practice changes the work, not just the words. It's a reorientation of perspective, not a rebrand of deficit-focused therapy.
Difficulty is relocated into the mismatch between a person and an environment that expects them to be different — not into the person themselves.
The goal of therapy is a life that has value to the client and meets their goals, not normalising someone for what society expects.
It is collaborative and consent-based: language, goals, and adaptations are co-designed, never imposed.
It does not abandon clinical reasoning, the evidence base, or honesty — it holds those alongside genuine respect for the person.
Homework that isn't getting done is a design problem to be barrier-managed, not a motivation failure.
Six markers of affirming care: formulation names the environment; goals are client-led; goals don't ask for unhelpful masking; adaptations are individualised; language preference is asked, not assumed; outcomes are measured by quality of life.
A Note on the Evidence
Much of what's discussed today draws on lived-experience research and correlational data rather than randomised controlled trials. We don't yet have affirming interventions rated as evidence-based across systematic reviews — but the parallels with affirming practice in trans and queer communities, alongside strong lived-experience data, point clearly in this direction.
Disclaimer
This episode is general educational information only. It is not individualised or tailored therapy, assessment, or support. If you need support, please seek out an affirming clinician in your area.
Thanks for listening, and remember — we are different, not defective.
Many neurodivergent people — particularly those raised as girls — receive a borderline personality disorder diagnosis before autism, ADHD or AuDHD. The two can genuinely coexist, but it is often a missed or mistaken identification, and the unfair stigma attached to BPD others people even further and makes things worse.
Late diagnosis is frequently cathartic and a relief, and at the same time brings grief for what could have been and anger at having been called lazy, chaotic, "too much" or "not enough." Holding relief and grief together is not contradictory — it's the normal shape of finding out late.
Diagnosis or self-identification doesn't change us; it gives us a framework to understand ourselves through that isn't only deficit-based. Compared against a neurodivergent frame, the "typical" person would look deficient too — it's difference, not defect.
Identity reconstruction is gradual, not instant — we reconfigure our sense of self over time, find ourselves reflected in community, and integrate our emotional history, coming to see our characteristics as a source of strengths as well as struggles.
Reflect on a characteristic you associate with deficit — say impulsivity — and look for where it has actually served you: a leap that brought adventure, curiosity that fed creativity or research, pattern recognition that made you brilliant with systems. A balanced, true view of yourself is the foundation for rebuilding who you are.
Quality over quantity: a few reciprocal, accepting, affirming relationships support well-being far more than many social contacts. A positive autistic identity, mediated by external acceptance and community, also lifts quality of life.
Much of the "disorder" we diagnose reflects a mismatch between person and environment, not an inherent flaw — Milton's double empathy problem reframes communication "deficits" as differences that dissolve in affirming spaces.
Beware extraction: environments that benefit from your strengths without supporting your difficulties are a structural problem requiring a structural fix — environmental, cognitive, sensory, and social accommodations.
Reflect on three of your own neurodivergent strengths and where you apply them, and seek out environments and community where you can unmask and feel safe — joy and well-being are real, and joy is a variable of well-being.
Keywords:
AuDHD, neurodivergent strengths, joy, quality of life, monotropism, hyperfocus, flow, well-being, special interests, double empathy problem, environmental fit, burnout, affirming community, different not defective
Affirming Care Matters – Sensory and communication accommodations, and directly asking about risk, help people feel safe enough to engage.
Protective Factors – Positive childhood experiences, community and belonging, unmasking, and sensory fit all reduce risk.
Safety Planning Works – Make a safety plan while you're well, with someone you trust — it's yours, and it can change over time. Includes scripts for clients and clinicians.
The Observation Fallacy – Clinicians can only diagnose what they know to look for; if AuDHD isn't on the radar, the symptoms get mapped to whatever lens is familiar.
BPD as the Classic Misdiagnosis – Emotional impulsivity, rejection sensitivity, identity disturbance and rigid thought can all be AuDHD expressions, particularly in biological females and internalisers whose presentations don't match the externalising male stereotype that built the diagnostic criteria.
1 in 5 Autistic Adults Report Overshadowing – Lived experience and self-report research show roughly 20% of autistic adults have experienced misdiagnosis or missed diagnosis tied to overshadowing.
Treatment-Resistant Doesn't Mean Broken – When treatment plans target the wrong formulation, "not responding" is a systems failure, not a character flaw or proof of imposter syndrome.
Differential Diagnosis & Formulation – Good assessment ticks the diagnostic boxes and excludes confounds, situating symptoms inside developmental history, sensory profile, trauma, family history and cognitive profile.
Neurodiversity-Affirming Assessment – Goes beyond awareness to actively consider AuDHD interactions, masking effects, and the cognitive and sensory differences that shape presentation and treatment.
Scripting for Appointments – Lines like "I'm wondering how you came to that conclusion — do you have a formulation that led to the treatment plan?" make hard conversations doable without landing as an attack on the clinician.
Self-Knowledge Is a Clinical Safety Issue – Understanding your own formulation isn't an optional extra; it protects against decades of misfitting diagnoses and treatments built on the wrong foundation.
Late Diagnosis Reframes Self-Concept – Understanding your characteristics through an AuDHD lens replaces years of "bad person, not trying hard enough" narratives with environment-fit explanations and self-forgiveness.
Hard Mode Is Context-Specific – AuDHDers may live life on hard mode for admin and rigid-rule contexts while playing easy mode for problem-solving and pattern recognition; diagnosis is a context map, not a verdict.
Different, Not Defective – Change the environment and the expectations, and the same characteristics that look like disorder in one setting become strengths in another.
Scripts to use with your clinicians:
Re-Assessment Request: "I have been carrying these diagnoses for a long time and the treatments have not led to the changes I had hoped for. I would like to ask whether autism, ADHD or AuDHD has ever been formally considered as part of the formulation, and what a neurodiversity-informed assessment might look like."
Formulation Question: "Can we look at this together as a formulation rather than only as a diagnosis? I would like to understand how my sensory experience, my history of masking and burnout, my executive functioning, and my life context are being weighed in the picture you are forming."
Diagnostic Overshadowing Prompt: "I am concerned that some of what I am experiencing is being explained primarily by my existing diagnosis. Can we slow down and consider whether there is something else, including potentially a neurodevelopmental factor, that needs to be assessed in its own right?"
