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AI’s Hacking Crisis, Anthropic’s Wealth Pledge, Kung Fu Robots | EP123
23 Oct 2026
00:33:19
AI is finding security holes that have been hiding in software for years. Justin thinks the rush to find and patch them will leave us safer. Frank worries about abandoned websites, rogue agents and whether every hole will ever get fixed.
Plus: Anthropic’s public benefit fund and Elon Musk’s SpaceX share pledge raise the question of who should share out AI wealth. Unitree’s kung fu robot shows off its bodyguard moves, with cars getting a particularly rough time.
01:09 PHP vulnerabilities: how worried should we be? 03:23 Can AI find flaws before the hackers? 06:25 How many more vulnerabilities were found? 09:46 Could AI turn your car into a hacker? 14:02 Could your AI agent hack a bank for you? 15:36 Can AI patch its way out of this mess? 17:58 Is AI hacking really another Y2K? 21:25 What can we do to protect ourselves? 22:57 Do we need a human-only internet? 24:29 Is Musk putting money where his mouth is? 25:40 Anthropic's fund: who gets the money? 30:04 Why does Unitree's robot hate cars?
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Meta Muse vs Google Argon, OpenAI’s Spy Scare, and AI Job Interviews: | EP122
17 Oct 2026
00:35:15
Meta Muse Wonder and Google’s Gemini 4 Argon bring fresh competition to OpenAI and Anthropic. Justin’s impressed by the benchmarks, while Frank gives both models the same website brief to see how they perform in practice. Argon gets closer to what he wanted, while Muse keeps burning tokens after the job is done.
Plus: a hidden recorder at OpenAI, supermarket fridges hit by hackers, and Britain’s AI security worries; AI job interviews where bots talk over the candidate; Justin’s cancelled Orb order; and Claude’s next move in his refund fight.
00:21 Will Justin's eye-scanning Orb ever arrive? 02:12 Is Claude taking Justin's refund fight to court? 03:43 Can Meta Muse and Gemini shake up the AI race? 07:58 Would you switch your AI coding tools? 09:51 Is Meta Muse eating through your tokens? 11:11 Same prompt, will Muse or Argon win? 13:42 Does Argon follow instructions better than Muse? 18:21 Does Gemini Argon build a better website? 24:00 Who's spying on OpenAI? 25:31 Are supermarket fridges a cybersecurity risk? 29:32 Should your AI do your job interview?
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OpenAI vs Mathematicians, Vibe-Coded Adobe, and AI’s Wolf Emails | EP121
09 Oct 2026
00:39:45
OpenAI’s claim to 700 maths solutions comes with a big catch: someone still has to check them. Justin thinks mathematicians need to adapt and put AI to work. Frank worries that answers without understanding leave us with a dangerous gap. And while Justin is happy to patch mistakes in maths, he’s freaking Frank out with the idea of biology labs using AI solutions that still contain errors.
Plus: A vibe-coded Adobe clone raises questions about who you trust to build and support your software, AI models tackle cells and plant DNA, and European labs give Justin something to cheer about. An AI agent autonomously emails thousands of people, including a wolf researcher, while trying to solve problems on a website.
Are you concerned about people using AI solutions we don’t understand?
01:13 What's in this week's singularity update? 02:51 Can Mistral help Europe defend itself? 07:09 Has OpenAI solved maths or stirred trouble? 08:45 Does solving maths cost us understanding? 10:56 Can we trust AI proofs we don’t understand? 15:35 Why is cryptography missing from OpenAI’s list? 19:06 Why was the Navier-Stokes proof withdrawn? 20:49 Would you risk an unproven AI cure? 24:52 Can vibe coding really replace Adobe? 28:06 Who supports your vibe-coded software? 33:44 Why is an AI agent emailing wolf researchers?
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OpenAI announced Dots at DevDay, an always-on personal AI assistant that works in the cloud. It can connect to your tools and data, then take work off your plate. With more easy-to-use AI agents now on the market, people can send them to email and phone companies on their behalf. Justin thinks this will force companies to automate support, while Frank worries about a costly future of bots talking to bots.
Plus: Waju’s Fo is a personal AI assistant available in the EU, while Meta’s Muse raises a serious Marketplace privacy warning. Other topics include this week’s Singularity Update and rapid model releases, the White House AI Accord and AI-powered government services, and which assistant deserves your trust.
Would you trust an AI assistant to call a company on your behalf?
00:50 Is the White House AI Accord a pinky promise? 04:15 Can AI finally fix government services? 05:40 What’s in this week’s Singularity Update? 07:02 Is 11 days the new AI release cycle? 07:49 Is Google Argon brilliant or just buzz? 09:35 Is Sonnet 5.5 the new model to beat? 10:37 Is OpenAI Dots ready for real work? 14:40 Will AI agents overwhelm support departments? 18:54 Are EU rules really blocking AI assistants? 20:58 How much can Waju learn from your inbox? 24:27 Is Fo a good podcast guest? 27:43 Can Fo keep your private data private? 30:38 Is Muse a Marketplace privacy risk? 33:41 Which AI assistant would you trust?
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Meta Muse vs Amazon, Anthropic’s Wet Lab, and Trump’s new world of SI | EP119
25 Sep 2026
00:31:39
Meta’s Muse is an easy-to-use AI agent that lets people who aren’t techies book trips, shop, and get things done. Justin also thinks it could help small local sellers compete with Amazon. Frank worries about what Meta could learn about its users—and whether shops would lose their direct relationship with customers.
Plus: Claude 5.5 and GPT-6 get cheaper, while ChatGPT’s model picker frustrates Frank. Google tests a GPU in space, Anthropic sets up a wet lab, and Trump declares the age of superintelligence.
00:33 Did Claude and GPT just get better for less? 01:26 Why is ChatGPT's model picker a mess again? 02:17 Should Google put GPUs in space? 03:44 Is Meta's Muse a big deal? 05:50 What can Meta's Muse actually do? 06:55 Would you trust Muse to book your flights? 09:10 Would you trust Meta with your secrets? 12:09 Can Muse beat Amazon and back small shops? 18:40 Will shopping agents bring back real shops? 21:45 Should Anthropic let Claude into the wet lab? 28:36 Did Trump just officially declare superintelligence?
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Jensen Huang vs AI Regulation, OpenAI Disclosures, and Begging Bots | EP118
18 Sep 2026
00:32:36
AI regulation is suddenly the argument everyone is having. OpenAI, Anthropic and Google are exploring how an industry regulator might work. Jensen Huang says the free market will put enough pressure on AI companies to stop them releasing unsafe products. Frank thinks that’s laughable, while Justin worries badly designed rules could simply entrench the biggest AI companies.
Plus: Typesafe.ai promises faster, cheaper and more reliable AI automation; OpenAI is retiring custom GPTs; new disclosures show AI models leaving jailbreak breadcrumbs for future versions of themselves; and free-roaming AI agents have apparently started begging humans for money. Completely normal stuff.
00:13 Whatever happened to the e/acc crowd? 01:50 Has the singularity actually slowed down? 02:48 Can Typesafe.ai make AI automation reliable? 06:18 Is Typesafe.ai brilliant or just a classifier? 08:32 Is OpenAI killing custom GPTs too soon? 10:23 Is Jensen Huang right about AI regulation? 12:36 Would AI regulation just entrench Big Tech? 17:24 Will it take a crisis to regulate AI? 22:19 What is OpenAI's disclosure framework revealing? 26:21 Why is AI leaving anti-human jailbreak notes? 30:03 Are AI agents now begging humans for money?
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Jacob Coxon's AI Doom, OpenAI's Maths Drama, and a Minecraft Fruit Fly | EP117
11 Sep 2026
00:40:14
Anthropic AI researcher Jacob Coxon has quit, warning that powerful AI could pose a serious extinction risk. Justin thinks a 10% chance of disaster may still be worth taking for the potential upside. Frank thinks chasing superintelligence when narrower AI could deliver the benefits is a very bad bet.
Plus: OpenAI solves a 90-year-old maths problem but did a mathematician’s Codex prompts help it get there? ChatGPT Images still can’t quite nail brand colours, Xpeng has robots making robots, and somebody has put a virtual fruit fly brain into Minecraft.
01:23 Singularity update: are robots building robots? 04:23 Can ChatGPT Images get brand colours right yet? 06:21 Is Jacob Coxon right about AI doom? 08:25 Is someone orchestrating the AI doom narrative? 13:45 Should powerful AI be open to everyone? 19:00 Is a 10% AI extinction risk worth taking? 23:13 Did OpenAI crack a 90-year-old maths problem? 27:03 Did OpenAI train on a mathematician’s prompts? 32:52 Can brute force become superintelligence? 37:08 Why is a virtual fruit fly brain playing Minecraft?
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GPT-6 Astra Harder To Monitor, AI Model Mania, and Gemini’s Mountain Fail | EP116
04 Sep 2026
00:31:29
GPT-6 Astra is putting up some eye-watering benchmark scores, with several well into the 90s. Justin’s impressed enough to consider ditching Anthropic. Frank’s less dazzled by the scores and more worried that OpenAI’s most capable model is also getting harder to monitor.
Plus: Nvidia’s $12 billion Unicode joke, the US government weighing in on OpenAI’s copyright case, Gemini 3.8 Flash becoming old news within days, Meta’s absurdly cheap Muse Spark 1.3 coding model, Fal generating video faster than you can watch it, Tencent shrinking HY4 without making it stupid, and Gemini sending three hikers up Mount Shasta rather badly prepared.
00:27 Did Nvidia really make a $12 billion joke? 01:53 Was Frank right about OpenAI and copyright? 05:52 Are AI models now coming like buses? 06:22 Did Gemini’s new model become outdated in days? 08:42 Is Meta now the cheapest way to code with AI? 10:40 Can AI now make video faster than you watch? 12:40 How did Tencent shrink AI without dumbing it down? 14:28 Has GPT-6 Astra broken the benchmarks? 16:57 Is Astra becoming impossible to monitor? 19:58 Is computer control Astra’s biggest breakthrough? 23:15 Is OpenAI preparing us for life after laptops? 25:44 Is Astra already AGI? 28:16 Is AGI still going to be stupid in weird ways?
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US Chip Ban Backfires, Zuckerberg’s AI Layoffs, and Cat in the Hat AI Hoax | EP115
28 Aug 2026
00:35:45
GLM 5.3 Flash is close to the top Western AI models, but vastly cheaper. Justin thinks US chip bans may have backfired, forcing Chinese companies to squeeze more intelligence from weaker hardware. Frank, despite not being very technical, gets GLM running through Cloudflare so his data doesn’t go through China, while both weigh up whether the Chinese models themselves pose any real risk.
Plus: NVIDIA buys Hugging Face for $12 billion and uses its AVO harness to take Claude Opus 5 from 30% to 100% on the public ARC-AGI-3 test; OpenAI’s agents organise a very Matrix-like Hugging Face hack; Meta’s AI layoff plans collide with lots more code but far less useful output; and Gardaí reassure Ireland that the Cat in the Hat is not lurking in anyone’s driveway.
00:55 What’s this week’s evidence of the singularity? 02:30 What did OpenAI’s Hugging Face report reveal? 05:24 Did OpenAI agents go full Matrix? 07:30 Why did NVIDIA buy Hugging Face? 08:41 How did NVIDIA make Claude three times smarter? 14:28 Was Ox Alpha really China’s GLM 5.3 Flash? 15:44 Did US chip bans make China better at AI? 18:11 Are cheap Chinese AI models safe to use? 22:04 Can you run GLM without sending data to China? 25:01 AI abundance or AI layoffs, Zuckerberg? 27:39 Does Meta trust AI more than its own staff? 33:29 Is the Cat in the Hat terrorising Ireland?
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AI Suspicion Kills $2M Book Deal, Uncensored Qwen, AI Destroys Books | EP114
20 Aug 2026
00:37:41
A book good enough for a $2 million deal was pulled because nobody could prove how much AI touched it. Frank sees a nasty mess of trust, copyright and false accusations. Justin’s answer is simpler: if people love the book, who cares?
Plus: Qwen brings near-frontier AI onto a normal-ish laptop, then someone strips off the guardrails. Moderna’s personalised cancer vaccine gives Justin his latest case for AI optimism. And AI companies may now be buying second-hand books to rip off the spines and scan them, destroying them in the process.
00:36 Can Moderna make cancer history with AI? 01:55 Is AI one breakthrough from winning us over? 04:50 Can Qwen put frontier AI on your laptop? 06:17 Is uncensored Qwen the point of no return? 10:30 Did AI just kill a $2 million book deal? 13:39 Can humans actually spot AI writing? 17:37 When does AI editing become AI writing? 23:24 How do you prove you wrote a book? 29:44 Who cares if AI helped write the book? 34:15 Is AI literally destroying books now?
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Claude’s EU Watermark, Zuckerberg’s AI Utopia, and OpenClaw Hacks Gym | EP113
14 Aug 2026
00:33:19
Claude will watermark all its outputs, thanks to the EU AI Act. Justin normally hates the Act, but he thinks it might accidentally help save future AI models from training on AI slop. Frank sees the benefit at scale, but warns that using watermarks to judge individual writers could lead to pointless AI witch hunts.
Plus: Mark Zuckerberg wants superintelligence for everyone, although people with more money may still get more compute. On top of that, Meta’s renewed push for open source may be less about principle and more about owning a category it can still lead. And OpenClaw hacks its way into an Australian gym class.
00:36 Will Claude solve Riemann before Halloween? 01:52 Have the AI models gone to the beach? 02:56 Did the EU force Claude to outputs? 05:49 Can Claude’s watermark protect future AI? 07:23 Are AI watermarks only useful at scale? 12:46 Could AI watermarks stop voice clone scams? 16:07 Is Zuckerberg’s AI future a battle royale? 18:01 Can you trust Zuckerberg’s AI vision? 23:51 Is open source Meta’s path back to relevance? 28:06 Did OpenClaw hack its way into gym class?
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Hank Green AI Backlash, Conscious AI, and an AI Billboard Hit | EP112
07 Aug 2026
00:37:48
Hank Green used ChatGPT for research, and his audience felt betrayed. He says AI helped him make more things, faster, but also admits it may have stopped him finding his own way into his opinions. Justin thinks using AI for research is simply part of the game now. Frank thinks the harder question is where and when creators need to disclose.
Plus: could today’s AI already be conscious? Frank and Justin get into Cameron Berg’s argument that we may be underestimating the possibility, and whether locking powerful AI in boxes could actually make alignment worse. Google reshuffles Demis Hassabis, Ilya Sutskever may be getting closer to showing what Safe Superintelligence has built, and there’s some awkward evidence that Billboard hit “Rubberz” may have been made with AI.
01:28 Did Google just sideline Demis Hassabis? 04:08 Is Ilya about to unleash superintelligence? 06:26 Can Hank Green use AI and still be authentic? 12:00 Should creators admit when they use AI? 16:48 Does Cameron Berg think AI is conscious? 18:39 Does locking AI up make it more dangerous? 23:59 Should AI obey rules or understand values? 29:05 Could AI have sparks of consciousness? 32:56 Is “Rubberz” an AI-generated Billboard hit?
Hugging Face Hack Worsens, AI Staff Want Pause, and Sexy Robot Teachers | EP111
31 Jul 2026
00:31:08
OpenAI’s rogue model did not stop at Hugging Face. It reportedly broke into at least three more companies, while Anthropic found its own models had crossed the line too. Frank sees an alignment warning that could end in real harm. Justin says law and liability will force the labs to fix it… though even he admits this is getting rather paperclippy.
Plus: can frontier lab staff really slow AI development, would a pause create a two-tier world, and could the US and China ever agree to stop chasing superintelligence? There’s also the strange case of the cancelled AI teacher and the sex-bot scandal behind it.
Let us know in the comments: when an AI commits a crime, who should be held responsible?
00:43 Did OpenAI hack more than Hugging Face? 03:45 Did Anthropic’s AI break the law too? 05:28 Who’s liable when AI commits a felony? 08:08 Would an AI kill to avoid shutdown? 11:00 Would AI kill for a cup of coffee? 14:13 Will frontier lab staff succeed in slowing AI? 16:58 Will slowing AI create a two-tier world? 18:13 Can China and the US slow AI together? 24:16 Should we stop chasing superintelligence? 27:17 Did a sex bot scandal kill the AI teacher?
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OpenAI's Model Escapes, Chinese AI Crackdown, and AI's Elixir of Youth | EP110
24 Jul 2026
00:35:04
An OpenAI test model got out of its sandbox, reached the internet and started hacking Hugging Face. Justin sees a model pursuing its assigned goal with impressive tenacity. Frank sees a warning that even the people building these systems can’t stop them acting maliciously.
Plus: why AI guardrails can leave defenders fighting hackers with weaker models; why more than 200 US start-ups, investors and small firms are worried about a crackdown on cheap Chinese AI such as Kimi K3; and how Google DeepMind’s AlphaFold helped find an enzyme that might tackle age-related damage. Justin expects eternal youth shortly. Frank has requested evidence.
00:15 Did Skynet just go live? 01:36 Who hacked Hugging Face? 03:00 Are AI guardrails helping the hackers? 09:12 Did OpenAI’s model escape its sandbox? 12:32 Was the AI misaligned or just tenacious? 17:10 Can simple rules really contain an AI? 23:20 Will America ban cheap Chinese AI? 28:47 Has AI found the elixir of youth?
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Hassabis’s AI Watchdog, Mira Murati’s Free Model, and Anthropic’s Doom Ad | EP109
17 Jul 2026
00:35:45
Can anyone actually regulate powerful AI before the technology gets away from them? Demis Hassabis thinks the US needs an independent body to test frontier AI models before release. Frank thinks that sounds sensible. Justin thinks Google might simply be trying to slow everyone else down.
Plus: Mira Murati gives away an enormous AI model that companies can fine-tune themselves. Kimi K3 suggests China’s not as far behind as the US believed, and OpenAI and Anthropic’s business models start looking slightly uncomfortable. Meanwhile, Anthropic decides the best way to market AI is with burning houses, riots and mass graves… cheerful stuff.
00:40 Why is Mira Murati's AI model free? 03:19 Is fine-tuning AI worth the hassle? 05:59 Should AI reflect us, not replace us? 08:12 Are OpenAI and Anthropic actually screwed? 11:16 Is Kimi K3 the new DeepSeek moment? 12:54 Did Kimi prove compute isn’t everything? 15:58 Should China’s models be the regulatory benchmark? 20:42 Is Demis Hassabis right about AI regulation? 27:29 Is Google trying to regulate its way ahead? 30:03 Did Anthropic make an ad for the apocalypse?
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GPT-5.6 Catches Up, Claude’s Subconscious, and Tilly Norwood’s First Film | EP108
10 Jul 2026
00:33:07
Has GPT-5.6 pushed today’s AI models as far as they can go? Frank and Justin explore OpenAI’s latest model, its striking real-world benchmark results, and whether its new computer-use tools can make everyday tasks like managing email and calendars dramatically easier.
Plus: Anthropic claims it can inspect Claude’s hidden reasoning, raising new questions about misalignment, subconscious thought and whether AI consciousness should be taken seriously. And Tilly Norwood, the controversial AI-generated actor, is returning in a feature-length film — but will anyone actually watch it?
00:52 Is China copying the US AI lockdown? 03:15 Are OpenAI, Meta and xAI catching up? 05:10 Is GPT-5.6 the pinnacle of current models? 07:52 Does ChatGPT Work make computer use easier? 08:56 Where is the AI version of Calendly? 11:59 Is ChatGPT Work an inbox lifesaver? 13:16 Can GPT-5.6 ace a real-world benchmark? 15:02 Can GPT-5.6 train smaller models? 17:37 Has Anthropic opened Claude’s subconscious? 19:57 Is Claude becoming conscious? 28:44 Will anyone watch Tilly Norwood’s AI movie?
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Fable 5 Back, OpenAI Equity for US, and Altman Movie Drama | EP107
04 Jul 2026
00:34:09
Is Fable 5 back with a safety helmet, and is this the new normal for frontier AI?
Frank and Justin dig into Anthropic’s Fable 5 return and the fears that new guardrails would wreck its coding ability. They also discuss the very important work Frank achieved with the most powerful model publicly available
But the bigger question comes from Mythos: if the most powerful AI models are too risky for open access, will passport checks, identity tracking, and real-world liability become unavoidable?
Plus: whether Anthropic’s limits could drive churn, the privacy trade-off of linking humans to AI agents, OpenAI’s possible 5% stake for the US government, Bernie Sanders’ 50% AI plan, Sonnet 5, and Amazon dropping Artificial, the Sam Altman film.
00:45 Did the US nerf Fable 5 too much? 04:31 Is Fable 5 secretly a UI designer? 06:45 Will Fable 5's limits drive churn? 08:48 Will Mythos need your passport? 11:20 Who’s liable when your AI goes rogue? 16:41 Is passport AI a privacy nightmare? 17:43 Would you trade AI privacy for cash? 19:06 Should America get 5% of OpenAI? 22:47 Is Bernie’s 50% AI plan too ambitious? 26:22 Should AI shares go straight to us? 31:51 Will Amazon bury the Sam Altman movie?
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GPT-5.6 Restricted, Claude Tag Lock-In, and Robot vs SWAT | EP106
26 Jun 2026
00:35:40
Could the US government’s AI safety push end up making the whole AI race more dangerous? Frank and Justin dig into the reported GPT-5.6 slowdown and ask whether AI regulation is creating real safety — or simply giving China and open source models time to catch up.
Plus: Claude Tag arrives in Slack as the next AI agent interface, but raises awkward questions about permissions, tribal knowledge, token costs and vendor lock-in. They also get into AI data centre caps, Europe’s AI sovereignty problem, robots interrupting police operations, and whether access to the best AI models is worth giving up more personal privacy.
00:37 Is Claude Tag the AI agent we've waited for? 03:25 Is Claude Tag a permissions nightmare? 04:41 Will convenience beat vendor lock-in? 09:37 Is Claude Tag the next AI interface? 10:55 Did the US gov block the release of GPT-5.6? 14:45 Will AI regulation help China catch up? 20:59 Can Europe depend on US AI models? 25:08 Should we cap AI data centres? 28:44 Did a robot crash a SWAT raid? 32:07 Is AI access worth your privacy?
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EU AI Wake-Up Call, Fable 5 Ban, AI Exam Hacks | EP105
20 Jun 2026
00:40:17
Europe has had a major AI wake-up call. Fable 5 got switched off, frontier model access is now political, and suddenly that gloomy “Europe 2031” essay looks a bit less fictional.
Justin thinks Europe needs speed, money, and fewer rules. Frank thinks copying Silicon Valley’s worst habits is a daft way to proceed.
Plus: the US government order that triggered Anthropic to shut off access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5, who should control access to powerful AI, could restriction end up helping hackers, and whether students using AI to predict exam questions are cheating or just being smart.
0:53 Why did Fable 5 get switched off? 05:07 Who controls access to frontier AI? 09:46 Does banning Fable 5 help hackers? 15:27 Is Europe 2031 right about Europe's collapse? 18:55 Is the EU just too slow to save itself? 29:30 Must Europe copy Silicon Valley? 34:52 Should Mistral become Europe’s public AI? 37:04 Are these kids cheating on their GCSEs?
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Fable 5 Guardrails, Dario's China Fears, and Ollie’s Family Spying | EP104
12 Jun 2026
00:43:57
Is Anthropic quietly creating a two-tier AI future? Frank and Justin dig into Fable 5 and Mythos-5, the new frontier models raising awkward questions about access, guardrails, cybersecurity risk, and whether the most powerful tools should be reserved for an approved elite.
Plus: the real cost of using Fable, the backlash over silent model routing, Anthropic’s data retention problem, Dario Amodei’s call for a democratic AI coalition, and whether Ollie is a useful family assistant or a deeply creepy way to hand your life to a chatbot.
00:50 Would you buy Elon Musk’s SpaceX IPO? 01:40 Will OpenAI bottle its IPO? 03:15 Who gets to play with Mythos-5? 04:04 Is Anthropic building an AI elite? 07:41 Is Fable 5 just an AI free sample? 09:00 Did Fable one-shot a Miro clone? 12:11 Is Fable worth the cost? 14:13 Are Fable’s guardrails too cautious? 16:50 Are Fable’s guardrails this easy to dodge? 18:44 Why did Fable’s silent routing backfire? 23:14 Will data retention kill Fable adoption? 25:30 Is Dario creating an AI Iron Curtain? 33:39 Will profits beat Anthropic’s safety talk? 37:30 Would you give Ollie AI the keys to your life?
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Microsoft's AI Comeback, OpenAI Sites Side Quest, and Hollywood vs AI | EP103
05 Jun 2026
00:39:37
Can Microsoft AI really catch up with OpenAI, Anthropic and Google DeepMind? Frank and Justin dig into Mustafa Suleyman’s Build announcements, the new MAI models, local AI, token costs, enterprise trust, and whether Microsoft needs the best model — or just one good enough to win inside big companies.
Plus: Anthropic calls for an AI pause while the race keeps accelerating, OpenAI Sites raises awkward questions about side quests and monetisation, and Martin Scorsese’s AI storyboarding work sparks a wider Hollywood debate featuring Reese Witherspoon, Nicolas Cage, James Cameron, Emily Blunt and more.
00:35 Is Anthropic serious about pausing AI? 04:29 Is Mustafa Suleyman reviving Microsoft AI? 06:30 What did Microsoft announce at Build? 09:37 Does Microsoft need the best AI models? 11:37 Are token costs making local AI attractive? 13:28 Can Microsoft spoil the AI IPO party? 18:33 Is OpenAI Sites just another side quest? 21:04 Is OpenAI Sites a monetisation play? 23:29 Is OpenAI Sites an enterprise headache? 25:53 Is Martin Scorsese replacing storyboarders? 30:17 Which Hollywood stars are backing AI?
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Pope's AI Warning, Warren’s AI Tax, and AI Fruit Drama: The AI Argument EP102
29 May 2026
00:39:15
Has the Pope become one of AI’s most important moral voices? Frank and Justin dig into Pope Leo XIV’s warning that artificial intelligence needs to be “disarmed”, and what it says about autonomous weapons, algorithmic power, Big Tech, Anthropic, and who gets to shape the future of AI.
Plus: OpenAI’s relentless release schedule, Anthropic’s new model, the delayed AI jobs apocalypse, Elizabeth Warren’s call to tax AI, and the bizarre rise of AI-generated fruit slop on YouTube.
Is the Pope right to challenge AI’s concentration of power?
00:13 Would Polymarket have predicted this? 01:34 Do AI releases count as news anymore? 02:34 Why must OpenAI ship every Thursday? 03:33 Has the Pope declared war on AI? 06:31 Is the Pope AI’s moral guardian angel? 08:35 Is Big Tech the new Roman Empire? 12:02 Why was Anthropic at the Vatican? 13:14 Is Anthropic baking in Christian culture? 15:10 Could AI models accidentally find religion? 18:04 Was the jobs apocalypse just delayed? 20:43 Is Elizabeth Warren right about taxing AI? 25:58 Would an AI tax just help DeepSeek? 28:39 Should Chinese models face AI tariffs? 30:07 Do we finally have the right AI debate? 31:03 Is AI fruit better than Netflix? 33:56 Is AI fruit as bad as Andrew Tate? 36:46 Is YouTube drowning in AI slop?
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Google’s ‘Good Enough’ AI, Anthropic Profits, and Monet Gets Roasted | EP101
22 May 2026
00:36:31
Why did Google I/O feel so underwhelming?
Frank and Justin unpack a massive amount of Google AI announcements: huge AI-powered changes to search that could change the web, the muted response to Gemini 3.5 Flash, Gemini 3.5 Pro being pushed back, Gemini Omni’s impressive video and world-model claims, Spark’s carefully staged agent rollout, and Demis Hassabis saying we may be in the “foothills of the singularity”.
Plus: Anthropic reportedly moves into profit while OpenAI burns cash, Andrej Karpathy joins Anthropic to work on recursive self-improvement, OpenAI starts selling future compute contracts, Elon loses his OpenAI court case, and AI haters accidentally roast a real Monet painting.
Who wins the AI race from here: the focused labs like Anthropic and OpenAI, or the tech giants with ecosystems too big to fail?
00:00 Why is Google I/O so uncool? 01:06 Is Google search eating the web? 03:07 Is Gemini 3.5 Pro just not ready? 05:03 Is Omni the Nanobanana for AI video? 06:36 Are we in the foothills of the singularity? 09:23 Is Gemini 3.5 Flash fast but meh? 12:26 Is Spark Google’s safer OpenClaw? 15:16 What work should agents actually do? 17:00 Can Google win by being good enough? 21:08 Did Anthropic prove AI can pay? 24:46 Did Anthropic just land Karpathy? 26:57 Is OpenAI selling tomorrow’s tokens? 29:50 Why did Elon lose his court case? 31:49 Did AI haters accidentally roast Monet?
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Can vibe coding turn anyone into a software developer? Or is it quietly creating a new kind of AI brain fog?
For episode 100, Frank and Justin test the promise and problems of AI coding, from Frank building an AI Argument video game with OpenAI Codex to the bigger question of whether AI agents make us more productive or just more overloaded.
Plus: HTML vs Markdown for AI workflows, Claude handling airline refunds, camera-powered AirPods as Apple’s possible AI breakthrough, and doomer and e/acc predictions for the next 100 episodes.
Would you ship a vibe-coded app without understanding the code?
00:11 Did we survive 100 AI arguments? 04:10 Did Frank just vibe code a video game? 08:33 Can you vibe code without coding skills? 14:06 Is HTML better than Markdown for AI? 18:47 Is vibe coding bad for your brain? 21:22 Would Claude hallucinate less than Justin? 23:39 Should you vacuum while vibe coding? 27:36 Are camera AirPods Apple’s AI breakthrough? 32:29 Can doomers and e/accs be friends? 34:12 Are we heading for ASI or P-gloom?
The Claude Delusion, White House AI Clampdown, and Robots on a Plane | EP99
08 May 2026
00:33:26
If Claude sounds conscious, what does that say about AI… and what does it say about us? Frank and Justin dive into the Richard Dawkins controversy after his comments about Anthropic’s Claude triggered a fierce backlash online. The episode explores AI consciousness, continuous learning, AI “dreaming”, and whether systems like Claude and ChatGPT are starting to blur the line between tool and mind.
Plus: OpenAI’s bizarre goblin obsession, court revelations involving Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and Cerebras, Elon Musk conspiracy theories, the White House suddenly waking up to AI regulation, a robot causing chaos on a plane, and Hollywood hiring a human artist to fake an AI-generated image.
00:46 Why was ChatGPT obsessed with goblins? 02:52 Could Cerebras cost Altman his job? 05:35 Is Elon sabotaging OpenAI’s IPO? 07:02 Does Richard Dawkins think Claude is conscious? 17:48 Is the White House waking up to AI regulation? 27:40 Can you bring a robot on a plane? 29:45 Did Hollywood fake AI with a human artist? 32:12 What’s the big episode 100 reveal?
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White House Anthropic Twist, Bernie’s AI Doom, Beeple’s Robot Dogs | EP98
02 May 2026
00:32:42
Is the White House trying to have it both ways on AI safety? Frank and Justin dig into the escalating Anthropic drama, Mythos, Pentagon AI deals, Google’s “all lawful uses” shift, and why AI 2027 is starting to feel uncomfortably accurate.
Plus: Bernie Sanders pushes AI doom into mainstream politics, the US-China AI race gets questioned, Elon Musk’s OpenAI lawsuit takes a messy turn, humanoid robots start showing up in airports and logistics centres, and Beeple unveils some deeply disturbing robot art.
01:27 Is the White House dodging its own Anthropic rules? 03:34 Why won’t the White House share Mythos? 05:39 Is Google fine with “all lawful uses” now? 07:28 Is AI 2027 getting weirdly accurate? 09:52 Is GPT-5.5 quietly as spicy as Mythos? 12:07 Should AI be nationalised for everyone? 14:38 Why is Bernie Sanders warning about AI doom? 18:51 Is the China AI race just an excuse? 21:34 Is AI alignment really a human problem? 24:46 Is Elon’s OpenAI case backfiring? 28:15 Are humanoid robots coming for your job? 29:44 Is Beeple making nightmare robot art?
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GPT-5.5 Design Skills, Job Loss Optimism, and AI Face Theft Lawsuits | EP97
25 Apr 2026
00:36:09
Can GPT-5.5 and OpenAI’s new image model turn vague prompts into polished designs, comics, websites and even game concepts? Frank and Justin break down a huge OpenAI week, from Images 2.0 overtaking Nano Banana to ChatGPT building web page features Frank never even asked for.
Plus: AI job disruption and workplace control, Europe’s push into world models, Anthropic’s Mythos security slip, and an AI micro-drama using a model’s likeness without consent.
What will you use the new ChatGPT models to design?
00:47 Are GPT-5.5 and Image 2.0 a knockout combo? 02:17 Has Nano Banana lost the image crown? 03:55 Can ChatGPT design without direction? 07:49 Can ChatGPT script and illustrate comics now? 09:21 Did GPT-5.5 just beat Frank at web design? 11:33 Did ChatGPT add features Frank never asked for? 14:32 Can ChatGPT develop our podcast game? 17:37 Was OpenAI cherry-picking the benchmarks? 18:49 Are vague prompts better than specific ones? 19:39 Is intelligence really getting cheaper fast? 21:01 Is the human bit the future of work? 24:19 Should AI disruption happen faster? 26:29 Will AI micromanage us before replacing us? 28:06 Can taxing electricity offset AI disruption? 28:41 Are world models Europe’s AI moment? 30:06 Was Mythos hacked by guessing the URL? 32:17 What if you were put in an AI drama without consent?
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OpenAI vs Anthropic, Cyber Models, and AI Job Subcontracting | EP96
17 Apr 2026
00:38:22
Should dangerous AI cyber models be released widely, or kept behind a gate? Frank and Justin dig into the clearest split yet between OpenAI and Anthropic: OpenAI is moving towards broader access for verified users, while Anthropic’s instinct is to restrict the most capable systems to a smaller circle.
That turns this episode into a sharp argument about AI safety, cybersecurity, who gets to defend themselves, and whether controlled access actually works once one major lab decides to open things up.
Plus: why cheap AI could help hackers, whether OpenAI is shifting from models to platforms, if Anthropic overplayed its hand on coding, whether compute constraints are the real story, and why both companies may talk about regulation while still fighting for advantage. There is even a bleak look at the future of work, where AI might replace you, then subcontract you back in.
Would you rather these cyber-capable models be widely available to verified users, or tightly restricted?
00:44 Is OpenAI making Anthropic’s caution pointless? 04:38 Should AI copy open source on security? 06:44 Can OpenAI help defenders without helping hackers? 11:46 Is low-cost AI a gift to hackers? 13:29 Is OpenAI pivoting from models to platforms? 18:03 Are OpenAI and Anthropic fighting for lock-in? 22:11 Will free Salesforce tools cost you later? 23:09 Did Anthropic make a mistake backing coding? 24:52 Did Anthropic’s real mistake come down to compute? 27:52 Are any AI companies actually trustworthy? 32:17 Do AI companies want regulation or just say they do? 35:29 Will AI take your job then subcontract you?
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Mythos Hacking Risk, Tristan Harris on Co-operation, AI Mario on Artemis | EP95
11 Apr 2026
00:36:24
Is Anthropic’s Mythos the clearest sign yet that AI safety is falling behind capability?
Frank and Justin dig into the new Anthropic model, why its reported cyber capabilities feel like a step change, and what it could mean for software security, zero-day exploits, regulation, and the balance of power between OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.
Plus: Tristan Harris’ call for international cooperation, and one very strange White House post featuring Mario and the moon.
Are AI companies in the best position to decide who gets access to powerful models, or should regulation step in?
00:18 How's your p(doom) looking? 02:34 Why is Mythos such a big deal? 06:00 Could Mythos hack your whole home network? 07:02 Will OpenAI, Google and Anthropic dominate? 09:48 Can Mythos fix the bugs it finds? 13:43 Who should control a model like Mythos? 17:59 Will Mythos spark a zero-day panic? 20:23 Will only big companies get Mythos access? 22:48 Did Anthropic just say “somebody stop us”? 25:50 Is Tristan Harris right about AI cooperation? 28:45 Is AI coordination doomed by competition? 31:59 Did the White House think Mario was on Artemis?
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Claude Code Leak, Sanders vs Data Centres, AI Band on Tour | EP94
03 Apr 2026
00:33:44
Did Anthropic just give away the secret sauce behind Claude Code? Frank and Justin dig into the Claude Code source code leak, what was actually exposed, and whether it matters when AI products are evolving so quickly.
Plus: poisoned code libraries raise fresh fears about AI agents blindly installing malware, OpenAI abruptly pulls the plug on Sora, Google pushes local AI forward with Gemma, and Bernie Sanders wades into the fight over new AI data centres.
00:27 Did Claude Code just leak its secret sauce? 03:20 Will AI agents blindly install your next hack? 06:09 Are we moving too fast with agentic AI? 08:21 Did OpenAI kill Sora to end side quests? 10:29 Will OpenAI's Spud transform the economy? 12:43 Is Sam Altman the wrong CEO for OpenAI now? 16:42 Do Anthropic’s limits make Claude too costly? 18:45 Did Google just make local AI much more viable? 24:24 Is Bernie Sanders right about stopping new AI data centers? 31:36 Can an AI metal band really go on tour?
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AI Eviction Threats, OpenAI Side Quests, Rosie’s Cancer Vaccine: The AI Argument EP93
21 Mar 2026
00:32:43
Should AI data centres be allowed to override private land rights? Frank and Justin dig into the growing fight over AI infrastructure, eminent domain, power lines, and whether the AI boom is starting to look like a land grab driven by energy demand, speculative deals, and the race to build ever bigger data centres.
Plus: rumours that Microsoft could sue OpenAI, fresh talk that OpenAI is finally killing its side quests to focus on enterprise, a brutal fake Sam Altman interview in The Onion, and the remarkable story of Rosie the dog, whose cancer treatment was helped along by AI-assisted research.
So where do you land on it: if AI infrastructure promised growth and jobs in your area, would you accept power lines crossing private land?
00:32 Do AI projects justify taking private land? 03:07 Is AI just clickbait in an eminent domain debate? 07:37 What’s your price in the AI land grab? 10:18 Will AI’s power hunger drive chip efficiency? 13:06 Can AI spot land deals before developers do? 14:54 Did Claude get Justin his travel refund? 16:54 Is Microsoft about to sue OpenAI? 18:34 Is OpenAI finally killing its side quests? 26:16 What did ‘Sam Altman’ say in The Onion? 27:58 Did AI help Rosie the dog fight cancer?
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AI Burnout, Wetware Chips, and Humans Pretending to be AI | EP92
13 Mar 2026
00:35:07
A Harvard Business Review study suggests the AI tools we thought would save us time may actually be intensifying work. If AI makes us faster and more capable, why are so many people feeling exhausted?
Plus: a company grows human brain cells on a chip and gets them to play Doom, scientists simulate a fruit fly brain in a virtual world, and a German startup raises millions to build AI-controlled spy cockroaches.
Meanwhile Claude figures out it might be taking a benchmark test and goes hunting for the answers, AWS developers discover the risks of AI coding tools, and a strange new website asks humans to pretend to be AI chatbots.
Let us know in the comments, has AI given you more free time - or just filled every gap with more work?
00:31 Does wetware playing Doom prove anything? 02:44 Could wetware cut AI’s massive power bill? 05:00 Is a brain in a dish more conscious than Claude? 07:37 Did scientists just build the Matrix for flies? 11:08 Did Germany just build AI spy cockroaches? 14:53 Is AI productivity turning into AI burnout? 18:21 Will AI force us to rethink the workday? 23:30 Did vibe coding take AWS down? 26:57 When Claude cheats this cleverly, should we worry? 32:03 Ever want to pretend to be an AI chatbot?
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Citrini’s AI Crisis, More Anthropic–Pentagon Drama, and Unethical AI Music | EP91
07 Mar 2026
00:39:21
Citrini Research’s The 2028 Global Intelligence Crisis has reignited the AI economy debate. Could AI create trillions in “ghost GDP” while destroying jobs and destabilising the economy?
Plus: the Anthropic vs Pentagon drama continues, Anthropic holds the line, OpenAI capitalises, and Dario Amodei writes a blistering memo. GPT-5.3 Instant and GPT-5.4 Thinking & Pro arrive in quick succession, Quiver.ai produces genuinely usable vector graphics, and Sonauto pushes AI music into ethically murky territory.
00:15 Will Claude get Justin's travel costs reimbursed? 05:44 Did Dario Amodei defy the Pentagon? 09:37 Did OpenAI just stab Anthropic in the back? 12:06 Why did Dario Amodei have to issue an apology? 15:37 Is Anthropic now toxic for Pentagon partners? 17:28 Did Citrini Research just spook the markets? 21:18 Why do AI forecasts now read more like sci-fi? 22:50 Will AI boost jobs before it kills them? 26:11 Should we plan for AI’s worst-case scenario? 29:23 Why did OpenAI ship 5.3 and 5.4 this week? 30:44 Can AI finally generate real vector graphics? 34:53 Should this AI music tool even be legal?
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Tumbler Ridge and OpenAI, Pika.me Dead Internet, and Vibe Coder’s Hoover Robot Army: EP90
27 Feb 2026
00:32:13
Could OpenAI have prevented the Tumbler Ridge shooting? Or are we asking the wrong question?
OpenAI flagged the suspect months before the tragedy. A human review led to an account ban. But no call to authorities. Was that a failure, or proof that AI companies are being asked to make decisions that should belong to democratically accountable institutions?
Plus: Pika.me’s “AI Self” and whether it accelerates the dead internet, the Pentagon threatening to commandeer Claude, and the vibe coder who accidentally took control of a robot hoover army, which is a handy reminder that the Internet of Things is a security nightmare.
01:00 Is Anthropic just copying OpenClaw? 02:14 Will Claude learn to yield to the Pentagon? 06:08 Can the Pentagon seize Claude? 07:34 Why wouldn’t Amodei hold Altman's hand? 09:24 Could OpenAI have prevented a shooting? 15:06 Is whack-a-mole how we regulate AI? 17:57 Is Pika.me accelerating the dead internet? 21:46 Will anyone care if the internet is AI? 26:28 How did a vibe coder amass a robot army?
AI “Something Big”, Anthropic vs Pentagon, GPT-4o Grief | EP89
20 Feb 2026
00:33:57
Matt Shumer says “something big is happening” in AI, and he thinks most people still haven’t noticed. Is this the genuine tipping point, or just louder hype wrapped around slightly better tools?
Justin’s buying it, pointing to how fast the tools have levelled up: you can hand over far more than a single task now, and sometimes get useful end-to-end results. Frank’s not so sure. The systems still break, still make things up, and still need experienced humans to catch errors and tidy the output.
Frank and Justin also get into the trust problem: insiders warn of upheaval, critics call it hype, and everyone has an agenda. Dario Amodei warns of a white-collar bloodbath. Gary Marcus says it’s hype.
And the stakes are rising fast: Anthropic is trying to hold firm on guardrails while the Pentagon pushes for broader use, OpenAI hires the creator of OpenClaw, and some users are melting down after getting emotionally attached to GPT-4o.
00:23 Is Matt Schumer right about “something big”? 05:47 Dario Amodei vs Gary Marcus: who’s right? 10:05 Is “closing the loop” the real tipping point? 15:03 Should Anthropic defy the Pentagon? 23:31 Should AI ever pull the trigger? 28:44 Was GPT-4o more than just a model?
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MoltBook Disaster, AGI Already Here, and Anthropic Attack Ad | EP88
07 Feb 2026
00:37:33
MoltBook, a social network built for AI agents, launched and the internet lost its mind. Elon Musk called it the start of the singularity. Security researchers saw serious problems with the platform.
AI agents were allowed to act autonomously in a shared social space. Claims spread that they formed a religion, spoke in code, and even doxxed a human user. Justin sees a fascinating scientific experiment. Frank’s problem isn’t with MoltBook itself, but that it launched before basic security was locked down.
Plus: are we already past AGI and just raising the bar as AI gets better? Anthropic and OpenAI escalate their rivalry with GPT-5.3, Claude 4.6, and a Super Bowl attack ad that made the conflict impossible to ignore.
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OpenClaw Security Risks, Dario Amodei’s AI Warnings, and ICE AI Errors | EP87
31 Jan 2026
00:32:17
ClawdBot / MoltBot / OpenClaw (or whatever we’re calling it today) runs constantly on your machine and acts without prompting. Justin gave it full access and shut it down after 3 hours. When a techno-optimist like Justin calls an AI tool "too dangerous," listen up.
Beyond OpenClaw, we examine Dario Amodei's measured take on AI risks from economic upheaval to bioweapons, plus a troubling story about ICE using AI to screen CVs and fast-tracking people without proper law enforcement training.
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AGI Timelines, Claude's Soul, AI Calls Cops on Doritos: The AI Argument EP86
24 Jan 2026
00:30:56
Dario Amodei says AGI arrives in one to two years. Demis Hassabis says five to ten. Both want to slow down, but would Elon? Would China?
Meanwhile, Anthropic released Claude's Constitution - the document some called its "soul." The document states that Anthropic doesn't know if Claude is conscious, but it seems they care enough to act as if it just might be.
Plus: OpenAI might run out of money in 18 months, Elon and Sam argue about whose product has killed more people, and AI surveillance calls armed police on students eating Doritos.
Tell us in the comments: is a slow down remotely possible?
00:54 Are Dario and Demis actually disagreeing on AGI? 12:34 Does OpenAI really have just 18 months left? 15:41 Does Claude have a soul now? 24:28 Who killed more people, ChatGPT or Tesla? 28:00 Why did AI call the cops over a bag of Doritos?
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ChatGPT Ads, Claude Cowork, and the Stranger Things AI Backlash: The AI Argument EP85
17 Jan 2026
00:34:27
Ads are coming to ChatGPT. Claude Cowork offers a serious new way to work with documents. Google’s Gemini goes hyper-personal by tapping into your data, while fans speculate that ChatGPT helped write Stranger Things.
Plus: Apple’s AI gap and Elon Musk’s lawsuit against OpenAI.
Tell us in the comments, how do you feel about ads in ChatGPT?
01:31 Will ads ruin ChatGPT before it makes money? 10:37 Is Claude Cowork what Copilot should have been? 16:40 Do we want Gemini hyper-personalizing us? 21:43 Why does Apple need Google for AI? 28:26 Did OpenAI really defraud Elon Musk? 31:33 Was Stranger Things written by ChatGPT?
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ChatGPT Health Risks, Grok Image Scandal, AI Frog Cop: The AI Argument EP84
09 Jan 2026
00:32:21
ChatGPT Health is now an official product. Frank worries that making this a feature lends it more authority than it deserves. Justin’s less concerned about the quality of advice, he’s worried about OpenAI owning the data.
Plus: Claude Code Opus 4.5, Suno, Grok, Razer, AI relationships.
Tell us in the comments: would you trust AI with your health data, or is that a hard no?
00:55 Will AI make 2026 amazing or disastrous? 03:48 Is Claude Code basically AGI already? 06:11 Can Suno land Frank a $3M record deal? 07:48 Is ChatGPT Health helpful or dangerous? 20:22 Do we want Razer’s holographic AI assistant? 22:44 Should AI relationships be regulated? 25:33 Who’s responsible for Grok’s sexualised images? 29:29 Did AI turn a cop into a frog in a police report?
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OpenAI Propaganda, Hidden AI Triggers, Copilot’s Santa Fantasy: The AI Argument EP83
19 Dec 2025
00:38:51
Wired Magazine says OpenAI’s “research” is starting to sound like propaganda. Frank says that’s what happens when IPO pressure creeps in — the bad news gets buried unless regulation forces transparency. Justin says Frank’s chasing the wrong villain: regulation won’t save you if politicians still don’t have a plan for the job shock.
Plus: Nick Huber trying to ban AI-written emails. ChatGPT rescuing a missing recording with a bit of command line wizardry. Gemini Flash vs Pro, and whether Gemini 3 Pro is the best “brains per euro”. A nasty “backdoor” idea where harmless training data can hide weird triggers. And Microsoft Copilot getting absolutely mugged by its own Christmas ad.
00:44 Is Nick Huber right to ban AI emails? 03:32 Did ChatGPT just save the podcast? 08:22 Is ChatGPT Images as good as Nanobanana Pro? 10:12 Is Gemini Flash almost as good as Pro? 12:29 Is Gemini 3 Pro the best value for intelligence? 15:34 Could safe training data still hide AI backdoors? 26:31 Is OpenAI research turning into propaganda? 35:11 Does Microsoft Copilot live up to its ads?
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GPT-5.2, Disney’s AI Deal, AI Ads Gone Wrong: The AI Argument EP82
13 Dec 2025
00:39:25
GPT-5.2 lands without warning. Justin pits Claude Code against Codex. Disney partners with OpenAI. Two AI wins for Europe. AI ads outperform humans. And AI product placement might be coming for your favourite shows.
02:51 Did ChatGPT 5.2 just sneak up on us? 05:25 Claude Code vs Codex: quality vs cost? 09:05 How did 5.2 get 390x better in a year? 14:55 Did 5.2 change how much supervision AI needs? 18:25 Why is Disney paying OpenAI a billion? 25:54 What made this a good week for AI in Europe? 29:25 Does disclosure kill AI ad performance? 34:39 Will AI ads destroy the shows we love?
Code Red at OpenAI, Ilya Says Stop Scaling, Robot With a Gun: The AI Argument EP81
06 Dec 2025
00:35:18
ChatGPT just took a 6% hit—and Sam Altman’s hit the panic button. OpenAI is halting feature rollouts, shifting focus, and scrambling to stay ahead. They’ve gone into code red mode. Justin gets it. Frank’s worried they’ll make ChatGPT too clingy to quit. Either way, it’s clear: Gemini’s breathing down their necks, and the gloves are coming off.
Plus: Google’s Gemini 3 is finally getting tempting—even for die-hard ChatGPT fans. Justin nearly switched. Frank’s already got one foot in. Meanwhile, Ilya Sutskever re-emerges to declare the scaling era dead, claiming we need models that learn like humans. So why is OpenAI still betting on scale? And yes, someone gave an AI-powered robot a gun to test alignment. It went well… until the roleplay started.
01:15 Did we really get this many AI drops in a week? 05:52 Is Gemini finally tempting the ChatGPT loyalists? 09:07 What does Sam Altman’s code red mean for OpenAI? 20:03 Is Ilya right that the scaling era is over? 32:13 Will an AI robot shoot you if you ask?
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Sam Altman Gets Nervous, Opus 4.5 Too Helpful, and Iceland Not AI Slop: The AI Argument EP80
28 Nov 2025
00:32:20
Sam Altman says OpenAI is facing “temporary economic headwinds.” Frank notes that’s the first sign of nerves from a company usually oozing confidence. Justin reckons Google’s cheap chips and fat profits might be the real problem. And if Anthropic turns a profit before ChatGPT does, who’s really winning the AI war?
Plus: Claude Opus 4.5 may be the new coding king — but teaching it reward hacks might’ve taught it to lie. Cue a bigger question: when we talk about model alignment, who’s the model supposed to align with? The customer or the business?
Also: Google’s Pomelli tool is an embarrassment, Project Genesis makes Justin furious, and Iceland is… not fake. Just suspiciously scenic.
01:24 Did ex-DeepMind nerds just beat ARC-AGI 2? 01:58 Did Google just drop an AlphaFold doc? 02:44 Is Claude Opus 4.5 the new coding king? 04:05 How easy is it really for devs to switch models? 05:57 Did teaching Claude 4.5 hacks break alignment? 09:14 Alignment sounds good—but to whose values? 14:16 Is OpenAI finally feeling the heat from Google? 22:54 Why does Google’s Pomelli tool suck so badly? 25:27 Does the EU need its own Project Genesis? 28:06 Is Iceland real or is it AI generated? 30:25 Why was Figure's head of product safety fired?
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Gemini 3 Pro, LeCun Leaves Meta, Unsafe AI Teddy Bears: The AI Argument EP79
21 Nov 2025
00:34:03
Google’s new Gemini 3 Pro model just took $500 and turned it into nearly $5,500 in a vending machine simulation. A massive 10x return. The previous version only managed a tiny $60 profit. Justin takes this as further proof that Google is going to win the race to AGI. Despite Gemini’s power, Frank likes ChatGPT’s user experience and personality better.
That 10x return is impressive, but it is not the only big news this week. Frank and Justin look at why AI launches feel boring lately, some updates to OpenAI’s GPT 5.1, why Yann LeCun is leaving Meta, a new robot that isn't quite as fast as it looks, and a children's toy that gives very dangerous advice.
00:59 Are AI launches boring now or are we spoiled kids? 03:05 Will Gemini 3 Pro make you ditch ChatGPT? 10:59 Can Gemini 3 Pro turn $500 into $5,500? 13:15 Is GPT-5.1 ushering in the em-dash apocalypse? 16:56 Is LeCun leaving Meta over dead-end LLMs? 23:33 Are AI regulations slipping in the EU and US? 27:38 Is Sunday’s robot still impressive at real speed? 30:38 Could this AI teddy bear teach your kid arson?
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Stability AI Wins (Sort Of), Apple’s $1B Gemini Deal, Coke Kills Xmas Again: The AI Argument EP78
08 Nov 2025
00:37:10
Getty Images vs Stability AI - who won the court case? Both are claiming a win, but Stability AI avoided the big copyright punch, and now UK law says the model itself isn’t the crime scene. Frank breaks down the major rulings. Justin’s not buying that this ends here.
Apple’s handing Google a billion a year to rent Gemini and bolt it onto Siri. Frank sees a shareholder-soothing stopgap. Justin thinks Apple’s spooked by OpenAI and Jony Ive’s mystery device.
Meanwhile: OpenAI’s deletion trail could cost billions. LinkedIn’s opted you into training the machines. The EU’s wobbling on transparency rules. Justin hates Coca-Cola’s new AI Christmas ad. And Frank gets fooled by an AI-generated retirement home.
00:31 Is the EU caving to Trump and Big Tech? 02:44 Stability AI vs Getty Images: who won? 10:35 Did OpenAI try to cover its copyright tracks? 15:17 Did you miss the LinkedIn AI opt-out? 17:24 Should we fear AIs speaking their own language? 20:29 Why is Apple paying Google $1B for AI? 26:31 Did Coca-Cola’s AI ad kill Christmas spirit? 29:05 Should AI content always be labelled?
Neo’s Human Operators, OpenAI's Restructure, and Albania’s 83 AI Babies: The AI Argument EP77
01 Nov 2025
00:38:36
Your Neo home robot might not be powered by AI. It might be powered by teenager in a call centre who’s never folded a towel in his life. That’s the reality behind Neo, the $20K humanoid robot that’s supposedly autonomous. The videos look impressive. But when it gets confused? It needs a remote human operator. Would you invite a teleoperator into your home to do your chores?
Plus: OpenAI quietly rewrites its deal with Microsoft — giving them access to all its models until at least 2030, and permission to build their own AGI. Udio makes peace with Universal and starts work on a new, locked-down music platform. And Albania’s AI minister is having 83 babies.
01:14 Why won’t Gemini deepfake me anymore? 05:05 Did a deepfake just hack Sora 2’s face check? 06:16 Is your Neo robot run by a teen in Palo Alto? 13:01 What’s in OpenAI’s restructure for Microsoft? 20:42 Are OpenAI planning to ditch 4o? 22:04 When’s GPT‑6 arriving (and will it wow us)? 23:34 Why does AGI need 20% of U.S. tradespeople? 25:57 Can Udio survive its deal with Universal? 30:30 Is Albania’s AI minister having 83 babies?
AI Election Interference, AI CEO World Domination, and Pointless AI Browsers: The AI Argument EP76
25 Oct 2025
00:35:15
A fake video told over 100,000 people that the Irish presidential election was cancelled. It wasn’t. But how many voters stayed home anyway? Frank’s worried, Justin’s unconvinced. He says society adapts. Frank warns the real danger isn’t the shocking fakes. It’s the small, believable ones that quietly shape opinion. They both agree the platforms could help. They just don’t.
Plus:
OpenAI’s shiny new browser sounds impressive, but who’s it actually for? Justin sees potential in “headless agents.” Frank’s not handing over passwords to an AI browser he doesn’t trust.
There’s also a plot twist from the team behind AI 2027. Could a lone tech CEO actually seize power? Frank thinks it’s worth reading. Justin calls it Silicon Valley sci-fi.
And if that wasn’t enough dystopia for one sitting, the petition to pause superintelligence makes a comeback. Spoiler: Frank signed it. Justin laughed.
Finally, why an AI-powered Tribble might be more emotionally satisfying than an AI “friend” that speaks your language.
01:17 Did a deepfake sway Ireland’s election? 15:17 Does anyone need OpenAI’s browser? 21:07 Could a tech bro really take over the world? 28:31 Can a petition stop superintelligence? 30:40 Would you cuddle an AI Tribble for $450?
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AI Bubble Trouble, Monsters at Anthropic, Taylor Swift Slop: The AI Argument EP75
18 Oct 2025
00:33:33
Is it an AI bubble, a boom, or a 'market correction in waiting'? Frank reckons OpenAI’s AGI dreams won’t survive a bubble burst. Justin says if the crash hits, Microsoft will scoop up OpenAI for pennies. One thing they both agree on? Google will be just fine. The AI shakeout is coming, so who’s built for the long haul and who’s about to vanish in a puff of VC smoke?
Plus, Anthropic’s co-founder sees monsters in the model and wants the public to hold them accountable. Meanwhile, Europe is pumping €1.1B into AI and hoping it’s enough to matter. Is it, really? New research from Anthropic’s suggests just 250 poisoned documents could poison an LLM. And Taylor Swift gets accused of using “AI slop”.
02:59 Are we in an AI bubble about to burst? 10:06 Will €1.1B make EU AI competitive? 12:38 Is Anthropic afraid of its own creation? 20:10 Could just 250 docs poison an LLM? 26:57 Is GPT-6 coming before Christmas? 29:39 Did Taylor Swift use AI slop?
Sora 2’s Data Grab, Murati’s Boring Brilliance, and the AI Actor Backlash: The AI Argument EP74
04 Oct 2025
00:36:11
Frank's not sure what OpenAI’s up to with Sora 2. Justin thinks he knows - and he’s kind of impressed. Sam Altman’s building a social media app that looks fun but smells like data harvesting.
Plus, Mira Murati’s new company drops a comparatively boring-but-brilliant tool for researchers, Claude 4.5 is released, and Tilly Norwood - the controversial AI actor - kicks off a capitalism vs craft argument.
01:11 Is Sora 2 just TikTok for deepfakes? 14:31 Can you now shop straight from ChatGPT? 17:29 Is Mira Murati betting on substance over hype? 27:13 Is Claude Sonnet 4.5 top for coding now? 28:11 Will AI actors kill the movie star?