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AI Affiliate Fraud and the New Era of Partner Vetting02 Sep 202600:32:32

AI is creating new opportunities for affiliate marketers — but it is also lowering the barriers for AI affiliate fraud.

In this episode of the Affiliate Marketing Podcast, Lee-Ann Johnstone sat down with Tautvydas Vasiliauskas, Head of Marketing at FirstPromoter, to explore how artificial intelligence is changing affiliate marketing, from improving productivity and automation to creating new challenges around fake partners, fake content, scalable fraud, and affiliate partner vetting.

With more than a decade of experience across affiliate marketing, SaaS, e-commerce, and subscription businesses, Tautvydas shares his perspective on why the industry needs to prepare for a new wave of AI-driven risks while still embracing the opportunities the technology creates.

The conversation covers how AI can help affiliate managers automate reporting, analysis, outreach, and campaign management, while also discussing why relationships remain one of the most important parts of successful affiliate programs.

They also explore how AI is bringing back old affiliate fraud techniques in new forms: fake websites, private blog networks, AI-generated influencers, and synthetic content. Tautvydas explains what affiliate managers can do to strengthen affiliate fraud prevention and identify suspicious partners before they affect their programs.


Key Talking Points: AI Affiliate Fraud and Partner Vetting

  • How AI is improving affiliate program management and productivity
  • Why relationship building remains the core responsibility of affiliate managers
  • How AI is bringing old fraud tactics back at a much larger scale
  • Why fake websites, AI-generated influencers, and synthetic content are growing risks
  • The importance of creating partner quality checklists
  • How affiliate managers can identify suspicious traffic and engagement patterns
  • Why quality over quantity should become the new mindset for partner recruitment
  • How AI will impact partner vetting and fraud detection in the future


How AI Is Changing Affiliate Program Management

AI is changing the way affiliate teams operate.

Tautvydas explains that many companies are using AI to become more efficient, especially as teams become leaner and businesses look to achieve more with fewer resources. Affiliate managers are already using AI for tasks such as partner discovery, outreach creation, reporting, analysis, and automating repetitive workflows.

However, the biggest opportunity is not replacing relationships. Tautvydas highlights that building connections with partners will always remain a key responsibility of affiliate managers.

Instead, AI can remove time-consuming operational tasks, allowing managers to focus more on strategy, partnerships, and growth.

The same technology that improves efficiency, however, can also be used by bad actors.


How AI Is Scaling Affiliate Fraud

Affiliate marketing has always faced fraud challenges.

Tautvydas explains that many of the tactics the industry has seen before are returning in a new form. Previously, creating fake websites, manipulating SEO, or building private blog networks required technical skills and significant effort.

AI has changed that.

Today, anyone can create multiple websites, generate content, build social profiles, or create fake influencers without needing advanced technical knowledge. The biggest change AI brings is scale.

For affiliate managers, this creates a new challenge: distinguishing genuine partners from those using AI to appear legitimate.


Why Affiliate Partner Vetting Should Prioritize Quality 

Affiliate managers are often under pressure to grow programs quickly and recruit as many partners as possible. But Tautvydas believes this mindset needs to change.

The focus should move from quantity to quality — taking the time to properly evaluate partners before allowing them into a program.

This means creating stronger vetting processes, checking content quality, analysing traffic patterns, and looking for genuine engagement signals.

A smaller number of trusted partners can create better long-term results than a large number of unknown publishers that could create risk.

Listen to Learn More About AI Affiliate Fraud and Partner Vetting 
  • How AI is helping affiliate managers automate everyday tasks
  • Why relationships remain the most important part of affiliate marketing
  • How fake websites and AI-generated content are changing affiliate fraud
  • The warning signs of fake publishers and influencers
  • Why affiliate programs need stronger partner quality checks
  • How AI could shape the future of partner vetting and fraud prevention
Episode Timestamps 


05:40 – How AI is helping affiliate managers improve productivity
 10:45 – The history of affiliate fraud and why old tactics are returning
 12:20 – How AI lowers the barrier for creating fake websites and content
 17:00 – How affiliate managers can identify suspicious partners
 22:10 – Building a partner quality checklist for affiliate programs
 25:58 – Why quality over quantity should guide partner recruitment
 27:27 – What the future of AI and affiliate fraud could look like

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AI is changing affiliate marketing — creating new opportunities for efficiency while introducing new challenges around trust, transparency, and partner quality.

Tautvydas shared practical advice on how affiliate managers can use AI effectively while protecting their programs from emerging fraud risks. Find out more about this AI Shift in FirstPromoter’s guide HERE.

Listen to the full episode to learn how to balance innovation with better partner evaluation and build stronger affiliate programmes in the AI era.

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How Teams Can Scale Affiliate Programs Smarter and Faster with AI22 Jul 202600:39:10

How do affiliate programs scale when teams, partners, and data become more complex?

In this episode, we sit down with Margarita Prokopchik, Chief Business Development Officer at Affise, to explore how affiliate marketing has evolved over the past seven years and why affiliate program automation has become increasingly important for managing modern programs.

Margarita shares her journey from joining Affise as a sales manager to becoming Chief Business Development Officer, while reflecting on the industry’s shift from simple tracking setups and postbacks to advanced integrations, automated workflows, and enterprise-level requirements.

The conversation explores how AI is being used in affiliate technology, why many companies confuse automation with true AI, and what businesses should look for when evaluating AI-powered platforms. Margarita also explains how machine learning has supported performance marketing for years and why the next stage of development will depend on giving businesses the infrastructure to build and connect their own AI workflows.

We also discuss the growing role of mobile measurement partners, attribution beyond last-click tracking, and how affiliate management automation can reduce repetitive tasks. This can give affiliate managers more time to focus on partner relationships, strategy, and sustainable growth.

Key Takeaways on Affiliate Program Automation 
  • How affiliate marketing has evolved from simple tracking to complex enterprise ecosystems
  • Why media buyers now require more advanced technology and reporting capabilities
  • The difference between real AI integration and AI being used as a marketing buzzword
  • How machine learning has supported performance marketing for years
  • Why businesses need flexible infrastructure to connect their own AI tools
  • The role of mobile measurement partners in understanding the full customer journey
  • How automation can reduce manual affiliate management tasks
  • Why permission systems and structured workflows matter for scaling global teams
  • The importance of human relationships in managing international affiliate programs


Why Affiliate Programs Need More Advanced Technology

Seven years ago, many affiliate programs were focused on simpler questions: is tracking working, are conversions firing, and are postbacks set up correctly?

Today, the industry looks very different. Margarita explains that affiliate programs now manage larger teams, more sophisticated media buyers, multiple markets, and higher expectations from technology partners.

Media buyers have evolved from individual operators into large organisations with dedicated teams, analytics departments, and structured processes. This growth has created a need for technology that can handle more complex tracking, reporting, and optimisation requirements.

The result is a shift towards platforms that provide deeper visibility, automation, and flexibility as businesses scale.


How Affiliate Program Automation Reduces Manual Work

One of the biggest challenges facing affiliate managers today is workload.

Margarita explains that affiliate managers are expected to manage relationships, analyse performance, solve technical issues, negotiate deals, and react to market changes making it one of the most demanding roles in digital marketing.

Automation can help remove repetitive tasks and give teams more time to focus on strategic activities. In one case study discussed during the episode, automation reduced affiliate manager workload by 30%, creating more capacity for partner development and relationship building.

For enterprise teams managing hundreds or thousands of partners, having the right permissions, workflows, and automation systems becomes critical for sustainable growth.

What You Will Learn About AI, Attribution and Scaling 
  • Why AI is often misunderstood in affiliate technology
  • How to identify genuine AI capabilities versus AI marketing claims
  • Why APIs and flexible infrastructure are becoming more important
  • How MMPs help brands understand the complete customer journey
  • How automation can help affiliate teams scale without adding unnecessary complexity
  • Why human relationships remain central to affiliate success
Timestamps

 02:30 – How affiliate marketing has evolved over the past seven years
 07:00 – Separating real AI from AI washing in affiliate technology
 14:11 – Why mobile measurement partners matter for attribution
 22:10 – How permission systems help enterprise teams scale
 31:10 – How automation reduced affiliate manager workload by 30%
 36:36 – Rapid-fire insights on attribution, AI, and sustainable growth

Scale Affiliate Programs Without Losing the Human Element 

Affiliate programs are becoming more complex but the right technology can help teams manage that complexity without losing the human side of partnerships.

In this episode, Margarita shares how automation, AI, attribution tools, and smarter workflows are helping affiliate teams improve efficiency and make better decisions. Reach out to Affise for more information or have a look at their Case Studies HERE.

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How AI Localisation is Reshaping Affiliate Growth in the AEO Era08 Jul 202600:37:08

Entering a new market is not just about translating content. For affiliates, operators, and advertisers, successful expansion depends on whether the message, brand, terminology, and offer actually make sense to the audience they are trying to reach.

In this episode of the Affiliate Marketing Podcast, Lee-Ann is joined by Barb Tasci, CEO of All-in Global and Co-Founder of the Revpanda Group, to discuss how AI localisation for affiliate marketing is changing the way businesses scale content across languages, markets, and channels.

Barb explains how Revpanda’s acquisition of All-in Global expanded the group’s wider marketing ecosystem, why localisation expertise has become more important in the AEO era, and how CRAIG, an AI-powered localisation solution, is designed to help businesses balance speed, quality, and cost.

The conversation also looks at how AI localisation can help affiliates test new markets faster, launch campaigns more efficiently, and build a stronger presence across multiple regions without relying too heavily on one channel.

Together, they also look at how AI localisation could change affiliate expansion strategies by allowing teams to test new markets faster, launch campaigns more efficiently, and build a stronger presence across multiple regions. Finally, Barb shares his thoughts on why relying on a single channel is becoming increasingly risky and why sustainable growth will come from a broader marketing approach.

Key Talking Points on AI Localisation and Affiliate Growth 
  • How Revpanda’s acquisition of All-in Global created a wider ecosystem of services
  • Why localisation remains a major challenge for iGaming businesses expanding internationally
  • How CRAIG combines AI technology with specialist localisation knowledge
  • Why generic AI translation tools struggle with context, terminology, and consistency
  • How AI localisation helps affiliates expand into new markets faster
  • The importance of balancing speed, quality, and cost in content production
  • Why multi-channel marketing will become increasingly important for sustainable growth


Why AI Localisation Matters for Affiliate Market Expansion

Expanding into new markets requires more than simply translating words. Businesses need content that understands local language, terminology, cultural context, and industry requirements.

Barb explains that many companies struggle with localisation because traditional workflows can become expensive and slow, especially when entering smaller markets where finding reliable vendors is difficult.

For operators launching campaigns or affiliates testing new markets, delays can mean missed opportunities. In competitive industries like iGaming, being able to launch localised content quickly can make the difference between entering a market early or following competitors.

This is where AI-powered localisation is changing the process; helping businesses move faster while maintaining consistency and quality.


How AI Localisation Combines Speed With Human Expertise

While tools like ChatGPT and other large language models have made translation more accessible, Barb explains that generic AI solutions do not always understand the specific requirements of localisation.

The difference with CRAIG is the combination of AI technology with All-in Global’s years of localisation expertise, including terminology, branding guidelines, and industry-specific knowledge.

Barb highlights that AI should not replace people, but instead enhance how teams work. CRAIG includes human support, onboarding, and ongoing optimisation to ensure businesses get content that matches their requirements.

For affiliates and operators, this creates the opportunity to scale content production, test more markets, and adapt campaigns faster without sacrificing quality.

Listen to Find Out More About AI Localisation
  • How Revpanda and All-in Global are building a wider marketing ecosystem
  • Why translation alone is not enough for successful market expansion
  • How CRAIG compares with generic AI translation tools
  • How affiliates can use AI localisation to test new opportunities
  • Why sustainable growth will require multi-channel strategies
Timestamps

[02:20] – Barb’s journey from competitor to CEO of All-in Global
[05:15] – Why localisation has been difficult to scale and how CRAIG was created
[07:00] – Solving the quality, speed, and cost challenge in translation
[19:00] – How affiliates can use AI localisation to expand into new markets
[32:30] – The future of affiliate marketing and why multi-channel strategies matter

Listen to the Full Episode on AI Localisation and Affiliate Growth

Localisation is becoming more than a translation process, it is becoming a growth advantage.

In this episode, Barb Tasci explains how AI-powered localisation can help affiliates, operators, and advertisers expand faster, reduce operational challenges, and create better experiences for audiences across different markets. To find out more about All-in Global and CRAIG, visit https://all-in.global

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Why Media Buying and AI Help Affiliate Programs Diversify and Thrive 01 Jul 202600:40:46

What happens when affiliate marketing is no longer just SEO, and media buying becomes a core part of user acquisition strategy?

Lee-Ann Johnstone sits down with Kamila Łuksza-Szpyt, Managing Director and Marcin Kumięga, Director of Business Development at Voluum to discuss how iGaming and affiliate programs are shifting away from single-channel dependency and into a multi-layered acquisition model driven by affiliate media buying strategy, AI, and real-time optimisation.

For years, SEO affiliates and review sites dominated acquisition strategies. But that model is breaking down under pressure from AI search, rising traffic costs, and changing user behaviour. The result is a major shift: brands are now forced to rethink what “affiliates” actually mean, and expand into broader user acquisition strategies.

Kamila and Marcin break down what is really changing inside the industry; traffic diversification and testing budgets to tracking, attribution, and why many programs fail in their first 30–60 days of media buying.


Affiliate Media Buying Strategy: Key Talking Points 

  • Why SEO-only affiliate strategies are losing visibility in iGaming
  • How AI search and Google AI Overviews are changing traffic distribution
  • Why media buying is becoming a core user acquisition channel
  • Why data tracking and technical setup are critical for success
  • How AI is changing optimisation and reporting workflows
  • Why affiliates and media buying should not be treated as competing channels
  • The role of attribution in connecting campaigns across the funnel


Why iGaming Is Moving From SEO to Multi-Channel Acquisition

The traditional iGaming model relied heavily on SEO affiliates, comparison sites, and review pages to drive traffic. That model worked because search behaviour was stable and predictable.

Kamila and Marcin explain that this is no longer the case. AI-driven search, Google AI Overviews, and shifting consumer behaviour are reducing organic visibility and pushing brands to rethink their dependency on SEO.

At the same time, media buying channels such as push, pop, native, programmatic, and paid social are opening up at scale. This creates a wider, more competitive acquisition environment but also a much larger opportunity pool.

Instead of relying on one predictable funnel, brands now operate across multiple fragmented touchpoints, making diversification not optional, but necessary.


The First 60 Days: Where Most Media Buying Strategies Fail

One of the strongest insights from the episode is how many programs fail early due to poor setup and expectations.

Kamila highlights two consistent issues:

  • Brands expect fast ROI without proper testing phases
  • Budgets are either too small or too widely spread across traffic sources

Marcin adds that another major issue is mindset: many operators still treat media buying as a replacement for affiliates rather than a complementary user acquisition channel.

The reality is that successful campaigns rely on structured testing, proper tracking setup (UTMs, postbacks, attribution), and a clear understanding of what success actually means before scaling begins.

Without this foundation, optimisation becomes guesswork rather than strategy.


Listen to Learn More About Affiliate Media Buying and AI 

  • Why SEO alone is no longer a sustainable acquisition strategy
  • How AI is reshaping both traffic and optimisation workflows
  • What brands consistently get wrong in the first 30–60 days of media buying
  • Why tracking infrastructure is critical for performance marketing success
  • How to properly structure testing budgets across multiple traffic sources


Timestamps to Go Direct

  • [03:22] Why AI search is reducing organic traffic
  • [06:55] Biggest mistakes brands make when starting media buying
  • [08:55] Why tracking and technical setup determine success
  • [10:58] Funnel differences between SEO and paid media
  • [15:00] Budget allocation and traffic source strategy
  • [25:50] How AI is changing media buying workflows
  • [32:15] Real-world success case: +30% conversion rate uplift
  • [36:54] Rapid fire: AI, LTV, and scaling mistakes


Call to Action

Media buying is no longer treated as a side experiment by many affiliate programs. It is becoming part of a broader user acquisition strategy, sitting alongside SEO, partnerships and other performance channels.

Kamila and Marcin from Voluum break down exactly how brands can approach this shift with structure, testing discipline, and the right tracking infrastructure to avoid costly early mistakes.

If you’re working in affiliate marketing, user acquisition, or performance media, this episode shows what is changing right now — and what you need to fix before scaling.

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How AI is Democratising and Personalising Affiliate Program Management24 Jun 202600:36:51
How AI is Democratising and Personalising Affiliate Program Management 


What actually happens when AI moves from buzzword to something you can use inside an affiliate program every single day?

Today, Lee-Ann sits down with Michael Cole, CMO at Everflow, to break down how AI is already changing the way affiliate programs are tracked, managed, and scaled, not in theory, but in real workflows being used today.

Michael shares how teams are moving away from developer-heavy processes and instead building lightweight automations, dashboards, and reporting systems directly through AI tools. The shift in using AI is not about replacing people but instead removing the bottlenecks that stop affiliate managers from doing higher-value work.

Michael also explains where AI breaks down, why judgment still sits firmly with humans, and how affiliate managers can finally reclaim time for strategy, partner growth, and relationship building instead of drowning in reporting and admin tasks.

You can find a variety of AI Use Case Recipes at https://www.everflow.io/ai-playbook


Key Talking Points on AI Affiliate Program Management 

  • How AI is enabling affiliate managers to build tools without developers
  • Why API-first platforms are becoming more powerful in an AI-driven workflow
  • Where AI fails: judgment, nuance, and decision-making under context
  • Why affiliate managers should focus less on admin and more on relationships
  • How “headless” systems are changing how data is used across teams
  • The future of affiliate management roles in AI-powered environments


From Manual Reporting to AI-Driven Affiliate Program Management 

Affiliate management has traditionally been weighed down by reporting, spreadsheets, and manual data pulls. Michael Cole explains how AI is changing that dynamic by allowing teams to build lightweight automation layers on top of existing platforms like Everflow.

Instead of waiting for development cycles, affiliate managers can now generate dashboards, connect systems like HubSpot or Slack, and automate weekly reporting using simple AI-assisted workflows. The biggest shift isn’t just speed, it’s control. Managers can finally design reporting structures that reflect how they actually think about performance, not how tools force them to report it.

This unlocks a more precise understanding of affiliate performance, including deeper attribution, behavioral signals, and revenue impact beyond surface-level metrics.


Why AI in Affiliate Marketing Still Needs Human Judgment 

While AI is powerful at processing data and generating outputs, Michael is clear on one point: it lacks judgment. AI can summarize, analyse, and connect systems, but it struggles with context, nuance, and decision-making. A drop in performance might be seasonal, strategic, or completely normal but AI alone can misinterpret that without human direction.

This is why the role of the affiliate manager is shifting, not disappearing. The focus is moving away from repetitive admin tasks and toward higher-value work: interpreting insights, managing relationships, and deciding what actually matters for growth.

The real opportunity is not automation replacing people, it’s automation clearing space for better decisions.


Listen to Learn More About AI for Affiliate Managers 

  • How affiliate managers are building custom tools without developers
  • Real-world examples of AI-powered reporting inside Everflow
  • Why AI struggles with context and judgment in performance analysis
  • How headless systems are changing affiliate data access
  • Why the future of affiliate management is more strategic, not less human


Timestamps

  • [03:47] How AI enables non-developers to build automation workflows
  • [08:40] Why AI coding in spreadsheets is becoming a core workflow
  • [12:38] How affiliate managers are using AI for reporting and CS insights
  • [15:34] What “headless” means for affiliate platforms like Everflow
  • [23:49] Where affiliate managers should start with AI adoption
  • [31:30] The future of SaaS, APIs, and AI-built affiliate systems


Listen to the Full Affiliate Marketing Podcast Episode 

AI is already reshaping how affiliate programs are built and managed but the real shift isn’t technical, it’s operational.

This episode with Michael Cole from Everflow breaks down how affiliate managers can move from manual reporting to intelligent, AI-assisted workflows that free up time for strategy, partner development, and performance growth.

If you’re working in affiliate marketing, this is the moment to understand what AI actually changes inside your day-to-day role and where it doesn’t. Learn more about Everflow: https://www.everflow.io.

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How Affiliates Can Spot Casino Fraud and Build Trust in Online Gaming17 Jun 202600:33:51


How Affiliates Can Spot Casino Fraud and Build Trust in Online Gaming

Welcome back to a brand new season of the Affiliate Marketing Podcast!

In Season 26, Episode 1, Lee-Ann Johnstone speaks with James Elliott, founder of Gamecheck, about casino fraud, cloned casino games, and the growing need for trust in online gaming affiliate marketing.

As fake casino content becomes harder to spot, affiliates face a bigger responsibility when choosing which operators and games to promote. James explains how Gamecheck identifies cloned games, verifies casino content, and helps players, affiliates, and operators make safer decisions in a fast-moving iGaming market.

The conversation also covers regulatory compliance, emerging market risks, AI-driven game production, and the practical steps affiliates can take to protect their audiences, strengthen credibility, and promote genuine online casino experiences.


Casino Fraud and Affiliate Trust Talking Points:

  • How cloned casino games affect players, operators, and affiliates.
  • The history and mission of Gamecheck in identifying fake games.
  • Methodologies for investigating casino websites and verifying authenticity.
  • The importance of trust, transparency, and compliance in affiliate marketing.
  • How emerging markets and AI-driven content are accelerating the challenge.


The Rise of Fake Casino Games and Cloned Casino Content


James explains that cloned casino games have been a persistent problem in the online gaming industry for years. These fake sites can replicate graphics and gameplay but often misrepresent outcomes or exploit players’ personal information. With the growth of white-label casinos and emerging markets, affiliates and operators must remain vigilant. Gamecheck aggregates intelligence from multiple providers to create a single, reliable source for checking legitimacy, reducing duplicated efforts, and protecting the ecosystem.


How Affiliates Can Promote Verified Casino Content


Gamecheck empowers both players and affiliates by offering tools to verify casinos before depositing. The Gamecheck Seal, a QR code on approved sites, allows instant verification of authenticity. Affiliates can now promote only verified operators, ensuring consumer trust and protecting their own reputations. James emphasises that even in regulated markets, vigilance is crucial, and collaboration between affiliates, operators, and providers is key to sustaining trust in the industry.


Listen to Learn How Affiliates Can Reduce Casino Fraud Risk:

  • How Gamecheck detects cloned casino games and protects the ecosystem.
  • Why affiliates should care about authenticity and consumer trust.
  • The growing challenge of AI and rapid game replication.
  • Best practices for building credibility in online gaming affiliate programs.
  • Real-world impact: reducing fraud, protecting players, and promoting trusted operators.


Key Timestamps to go Direct:


 [01:50] The problem of cloned casino games in the industry
 [06:33] How Gamecheck identifies fake games and investigates URLs
 [08:37] Gamecheck Seal and tools for affiliates and players
 [23:25] AI, rapid game production, and emerging market risks
 [31:30] How affiliates can engage with Gamecheck and promote trusted content


Get More Affiliate Marketing Podcast Insights


Protect your players and build credibility by promoting verified casino content. James Elliott shares how Gamecheck is helping affiliates, operators, and players navigate a complex, fast-growing market. Visit Gamecheck to verify casinos, access tools, and ensure your affiliate campaigns promote trustworthy operators.

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The Reddit Effect: Driving Brand Awareness with Affiliate Marketing in the Age of AI03 Jun 202600:36:28

Have you ever wondered how brands can improve AI visibility without relying solely on traditional SEO or paid ads?

In this episode of the Affiliate Marketing Podcast, we sit down with Mary Cooper, Co-Founder at Nicely Network, to explore how Reddit marketing is becoming part of modern brand awareness and affiliate strategy. Mary explains how Nicely Network helps brands build AI visibility by using Reddit alongside authoritative channels such as Yahoo and Business Insider, positioning them as trusted references in search, AI-driven discovery, and consumer decision-making.

Mary also discusses the shift from traditional search behavior toward AI-assisted answers, and why Reddit has become a valuable platform for brands seeking long-term visibility and credibility. From software products to direct-to-consumer campaigns, Nicely Network has built a methodology that blends authenticity, niche targeting, affiliate strategy, and AI awareness to drive measurable results.


Reddit Marketing and AI Visibility Talking Points

  • The evolution of Nicely Network from a traditional affiliate agency to a Reddit and AI visibility specialist.
  • Why Reddit is now a vital channel for brands, with its content being used to train AI and large language models.
  • Case studies showcasing measurable results, including AI visibility gains and direct sales impact for clients like McAfee and Walmart.
  • How Nicely Network balances brand guidelines with Reddit community authenticity to maximise performance.
  • The long-term benefits of evergreen content that compounds over time and strengthens AI visibility.


Why Reddit Marketing Matters for AI Visibility

Mary explains that Reddit has grown into a powerful platform for brands seeking long-term AI visibility. Thanks to partnerships between Reddit and Google, Reddit content is now frequently cited in AI-driven search results. Nicely Network positions brands within niche communities and ensures posts are authentic, organic, and highly relevant to target audiences. By focusing on AI visibility rather than short-term metrics alone, brands gain a durable presence that continues to drive traffic and recognition over time.


Reddit Campaign Case Studies and Affiliate Strategy

Nicely Network’s approach is both strategic and tactical. For McAfee, they increased AI visibility share from 6% to 17% over four months. Walmart campaigns focused on bottom-of-funnel keywords, generating over $30 million in sales over multiple years. Campaigns are pre-planned with clear objectives, niche keywords, and pre-approved copy when necessary. Evergreen content ensures that initial campaigns continue to deliver value long after the launch, making Reddit a high-impact investment for long-term brand authority.


What This Affiliate Marketing Podcast Episode Covers:

  • How Reddit content is now being cited in AI models and why this matters for brands.
  • The step-by-step approach Nicely Network takes to maintain authenticity while achieving visibility.
  • Key considerations for selecting keywords, subreddits, and creating evergreen content.
  • The measurable impact of Reddit and AI visibility campaigns on both awareness and sales.
  • Lessons from working with global brands across software, e-commerce, and direct-to-consumer sectors.


Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[03:10] The importance of AI visibility for modern consumer behaviour
[13:48] Reddit and authoritative media placements for AI citation
[21:58] Case study: McAfee and driving measurable AI visibility
[31:15] Rapid-fire insights: authenticity, AI visibility, and Reddit strategy


Get More Affiliate Marketing Podcast Insights


If you’re looking to increase your brand’s presence in AI-driven search and improve long-term visibility, this episode is a must-listen. Mary Cooper provides actionable insights into authentic Reddit marketing, evergreen content creation, and strategic AI citation. For more details on how Nicely Network helps brands with AI visibility through Reddit, have a look at HERE. Interested in their services? Affiliate Marketing Podcast listeners can get a $1,000 saving for any brand that launches a campaign with them (onboarding fee waivered).

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The Power of Relationship Management in Affiliate Marketing27 May 202600:33:15

Can the fragility of relationships become a strategic advantage in affiliate relationship management?

In this episode of the Affiliate Marketing Podcast, Lee-Ann sits down with Tali Chester, Senior Director, Account Management at Semantic Labs, to explore how performance-driven affiliate marketing intersects with human relationships, sensitivity, and trust. Tali shares her journey from fundraising at Greenpeace to leading high-impact digital marketing campaigns, showing how empathy, accountability, and clear communication support stronger affiliate partnerships.

The conversation looks at the balance between analytical precision and authentic relationship-building. Tali explains why, even in a more automated and AI-driven marketing environment, the human side of affiliate program management remains critical for long-term success. From managing performance-only campaigns across hundreds of clients to building trusted affiliate relationships, this episode explores the balance between metrics, strategy, and personal connection.


Affiliate Relationship Management Talking Points:

  • Tali’s unconventional path into affiliate marketing and how human connection guided her journey.
  • How Semantic Labs approaches performance-only campaigns across multiple verticals without cannibalising clients’ paid search efforts.
  • The role of sensitivity and fragility in maintaining long-term, trusting relationships with affiliates and partners.
  • Key strategies for balancing AI-driven tools and human judgment in decision-making.
  • Lessons from running large-scale campaigns and handling high-stakes client relationships with accountability and transparency.


Performance Marketing Accountability at Scale

Semantic Labs operates with a performance-first model, managing hundreds of clients while focusing on paid search to drive leads and revenue. Tali emphasises that accountability is built into the culture: her team reviews client campaigns monthly, monitors spend versus performance, and actively optimises traffic and keywords to ensure results. This rigor allows clients to scale without upfront risk while maintaining low operational costs. The conversation highlights how performance-focused strategies require detailed attention, strategic planning, and a commitment to metrics, proving that strong results come from persistent, hands-on management.


Trust and Human Relationships in Affiliate Partnerships

Tali shares a powerful perspective on the fragility inherent in affiliate relationships: sensitivity and empathy are not weaknesses but forms of intelligence that build trust. Even in an AI-driven landscape, success depends on authentic human connections, vulnerability, and humility. By nurturing these relationships, her team strengthens engagement, fosters collaboration, and ensures that performance campaigns succeed while sustaining long-term partnerships. This approach illustrates that in affiliate marketing, the human element remains a decisive factor, complementing technology and analytics.


What This Affiliate Marketing Podcast Episode Covers:

  • How performance-only campaigns are executed without cannibalizing client efforts.
  • Balancing AI tools and human judgment in affiliate management.
  • Why fragility and sensitivity are critical for building trust and maintaining relationships.
  • Lessons from managing high-volume campaigns and fostering accountability across teams.
  • Practical advice for new and experienced affiliate managers on combining strategy with humanity.


Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[10:00] Performance-only campaigns and operational transparency
[14:48] Sensitivity and fragility as intelligence in partnerships
[20:40] Paid search evolution, AI, and the changing affiliate landscape
[28:28] Rapid-fire insights: relationships, accountability, and humility


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Understanding World Cup Marketing: Where Attention Doesn’t Mean Performance21 May 202600:30:26

Today we go behind the scenes of one of the most high-stakes periods in sports betting marketing: the World Cup. Joining Lee-Ann is Vitaliia Pohrebniak, Team Lead of Influencer Marketing at PIN-UP Partners, who shares her insights on how brands can effectively convert attention into real performance during major sporting events. Vitaliia walks us through the meticulous preparation that goes into planning campaigns months in advance; from pre-testing creatives and defining KPIs to briefing and training influencers across multiple geographies.

Why can’t the World Cup be treated like a regular marketing season? User behaviours shift dramatically, traffic heats up, and attention alone does not guarantee conversions. Vitaliia explains how content creators act as both strategic partners and cultural guides, helping brands connect with local audiences and respond quickly to real-time events, trends, and fan emotions. 

Get ready for an episode that offers a lesson into how preparation, localised strategies, and influencer collaboration can ensure campaigns not only reach audiences but deliver measurable results during the most competitive periods of the sports calendar.


Talking Points Include

  • Why the World Cup should be treated as a separate marketing season.
  • How influencer and content creator campaigns are structured to maximise performance.
  • Strategic preparation, testing, and localisation for high-intensity marketing periods.
  • Lessons on converting attention into real user actions and FTDs.
  • Common pitfalls brands encounter and how to avoid them during major events.


Listen to Find Out More About

  • Why the World Cup creates a unique, high-intensity marketing environment.
  • How pre-testing and localised content improve influencer performance.
  • The difference between generating attention and delivering actual performance.
  • Key strategies for contingency planning and managing influencer campaigns in real time.
  • Common mistakes brands make during high-visibility events and how to avoid them.


Key Segments and Where to Tune In

[04:54] Why the World Cup is treated as a separate marketing season
[06:40] Pre-tournament preparation: testing, templates, and KPIs
[14:35] Influencer content strategies for engagement and conversion
[20:38] Common mistakes brands make and how to ensure performance over attention


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If you’re managing campaigns around major sporting events, this episode is a must-listen. Vitaliia Pohrebniak reveals actionable strategies for converting attention into performance and maximising the impact of influencer campaigns. 

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What Happens When You Turn Affiliate Marketing Into a Games League14 May 202600:35:55

Why Most Affiliate Networks Are Built for the Brand, Not the Partner

Dorin Boerescu has been in this industry since 2009. He started as an affiliate, bought a network that was turning over next to nothing, and has since facilitated more than 828 million euros in GMV. But the number that matters most to him is not the revenue figure. It is the question nobody asked when they built every traditional network before his: who actually has the right to decide how the marketing budget gets spent?

What followed that question is Business League, a full-transparency affiliate ecosystem built around one metric, the number of sales. No branded traffic allowed. No hidden rankings. No six-month approval chains. Just a live leaderboard, gamified performance tiers, and a platform that treats affiliates like the traders they actually are.

Lee-Ann sat down with Dorin to find out how a concept born in Romania is now live in Ireland, why complete transparency makes programs stronger rather than more vulnerable, and what happens when you build an affiliate network from the affiliate's point of view rather than the advertiser's.


Talking Points Include

  • Why affiliates are traders, not content creators and why the best performers in Business League have never read a Kotler textbook
  • The leaderboard that embarrassed a client who thought he was number one and why seeing the real ranking changed how he ran his program from that day forward
  • Full transparency as a fraud deterrent and why making all data visible to everyone keeps bad actors out and drives up quality across the entire ecosystem
  • How gamification goes beyond commission from speed contests to conversion rate competitions, and why affiliates compete even when the prize money is only 25 euros
  • The case against budget caps in performance marketing and why capping spend in a cost-per-sale model is one of the most counterproductive things a brand can do

Listen to Find Out More About

  • How Dorin went from selling his agency shares in 2009 to building a network that outperforms traditional media channels on ROAS
  • Why Business League launched in Ireland first, what he found when he got there, and which market is next
  • How a branded traffic ban is enforced technically and what happens to affiliates who try to get around it
  • The five performance tiers from freelancer to unicorn and what it actually takes to move between them
  • Why Dorin would have dinner with Jeff Bezos and what Amazon's affiliate program did for this entire industry
  • What an ROAS of 11.9 from non-branded traffic looks like in practice across 900 e-shops and 5,700 affiliates

Key Segments and Where to Tune In

  • [10:25] The Business League model explained: Premier League for marketing, 28-day rounds, five tiers, and why the only metric that matters is the number of sales
  • [19:10] Full transparency as a competitive moat: why showing everyone the data keeps fraud out, makes brands better, and builds genuine respect between partners at different levels
  • [24:30] Gamification in depth: the First 100 speed contest, conversion rate competitions, and why Dorin used the same system on his kids to get them to brush their teeth
  • [33:20] Rapid fire round: affiliate marketing in three words, the one thing e-commerce brands get wrong when they launch a program, and who Dorin would have dinner with




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When Creators and Affiliates Stop Being Different Budget Lines07 May 202600:29:42

What happens when a 26-year performance marketing veteran looks at the creator and affiliate divide and says the industry is solving the wrong problem entirely?

If your affiliate program and creator program sit in separate budget lines with separate managers measured against completely different success metrics, this episode will feel uncomfortably familiar. Todd Ulisoe, Chief Revenue Officer of Nomix Group, has spent 26 years watching brands unknowingly build the same problem into their marketing structures over and over again. The solution, he argues, is not better technology. It's better people alignment.

Todd's career reads like a history of digital marketing itself: Amazon in its early days, building one of the world's second-largest ad networks, marketing for Dane Cook before influencer was even a word, building and selling three separate businesses. Now at Nomix Group, overseeing a portfolio that processes three billion monthly queries, he's seeing exactly where the creator and affiliate worlds are colliding and how brands can stop treating that collision like a problem.


Talking Points Include:

  • Why the creator versus affiliate budget battle has nothing to do with technology and everything to do with how people are compensated, and what actually has to shift at C-suite level before any of it changes
  • How unified measurement frameworks work in practice, and why brands that reconcile creators and affiliates against the same verified transaction outcomes will outperform those that keep them siloed
  • What three billion monthly queries tells you about where consumer intent is moving right now, and which channels are capturing purchase signals before Google even gets involved
  • Why Todd believes the label affiliate marketing is holding the channel back, and what calling it performance-based media would actually unlock for brands trying to build market share
  • The crawl, walk, run approach to integrating creators into your existing affiliate program without breaking the economics that are already working


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • Why Todd refuses to call it affiliate marketing anymore, and what renaming the channel to performance-based media would do for how brands budget and value it
  • The distinction between transparency and brand safety that changes how you should be questioning your publisher partners entirely
  • What the Target creator program restructure signals about where the rest of retail is heading with its partner mix
  • Clicks without context: the metric Todd says performance marketers are most consistently wrong about right now, and what to focus on instead
  • The rapid fire round: one channel to back for the next five years, CPA versus revenue share, and the best conference opener after 26 years in the industry


Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[06:25] Where the affiliate and creator worlds actually break down: different budget owners, different success metrics, and why forcing both into the same operating logic creates friction before a single campaign launches

[18:31] What three billion monthly queries actually tells you about consumer intent in 2025 and which channels are picking up purchase signals before Google is even in the picture

[24:15] CPC to CPA: why Todd says it is just math, how Shopnomix runs 90 to 95 percent CPA, and the four-step framework for proving out the economics before you scale

[29:41] Rapid fire: creators or traditional affiliates for the next five years, the metric everyone gets wrong, and the line Todd uses at conferences after 26 years in the game


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Diversify or Disappear: How Publishers Win in 202630 Apr 202600:33:56

What happens when the biggest threat to your publishing business is also buried inside the data you're not looking at? 

Jorge Barbosa of wecantrack, joins Lee-Ann to talk about what is actually happening to publishers right now, why most of them are flying blind without realising it, and what the ones who are thriving are doing differently. The conversation covers HCU updates, AI overviews cannibalising traffic, the overlooked relationship between affiliate managers and publishers, and why EPC broken down by traffic source might be the most important number in your business that you're not tracking.


Talking Points Include:

  • The visibility gap most publishers don't know they have and why logging into your affiliate network reports is not the same as understanding your business
  • How one publisher shifted from 80 percent organic to 80 percent paid traffic over four years and grew overall revenue in the process
  • Why AI overviews are changing the user journey in ways that affect affiliate managers just as much as publishers and what you should be doing about it depending on who your audience actually is
  • The case for affiliate managers paying for their top publishers' tracking tools and the commercial intelligence that comes back in return


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • Why EPC by traffic source and landing page is the one metric Jorge always leads with in demos, and what it reveals that network reports never will
  • How big publishers use automated link testing and monetisation scripts to protect revenue at scale without adding headcount
  • The LLM tracking feature wecantrack is building that measures how often an AI model is crawling your content, not just mentioning it
  • Why affiliate marketing as a side hustle is the myth that drives Jorge mad, and what the industry actually looks like when you pull back the lens
  • What the successful publisher looks like in 2027, in one sentence
  • Why publishers building a brand rather than just a website is the single most important strategic shift happening in the industry right now


Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

  • [02:00] The pain points publishers are dealing with right now: HCU losses, AI overview traffic cannibalisation, and why most are still guessing about where their revenue comes from
  • [06:50] A live demo reality check: the publisher who thought YouTube was irrelevant until the data showed it was their best-converting channel
  • [22:08] Pivot or die: real examples of publishers who lost eighty percent of organic revenue and rebuilt stronger by acting on what the data told them
  • [28:00] The rapid fire round: the one metric everyone should track, the best and worst things to happen to publishers in two years, and what 2027 looks like for the publishers who make it


Call to Action

A big thank you to Jorge for being so generous with what he's seen on the ground. If this episode has made you think differently about the data sitting inside your publishing business or program, that is worth acting on sooner rather than later. Have a look at their Affiliate Dashboard or book a demo if this episode has sparked your interest.

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From Small Affiliate to Big Audience: Why Ignorance is not Affiliate Bliss!23 Apr 202600:25:16

What happens when your affiliate publisher is a sleep-deprived new mum with 45,000 verified users, a Dragon's Den deal, and strong opinions about how brands treat people? You listen.

Olivia Davson is the co-founder of Cubbi, the UK's first discount platform built specifically for verified new and expecting parents. She launched it eight weeks after having her first child, built the first version of the app with her sister who had zero coding experience, onboarded over 30 brands before launch, and pitched her business live on BBC's Dragon's Den at nine months pregnant. She walked out with a 50,000 pound investment.

In this episode, Lee-Ann talks with Olivia about what it actually feels like to enter the affiliate industry as a new publisher, why most affiliate managers missed the opportunity she represented early on, and what brands who did show up early gained because of it. The conversation covers the mechanics of Cubbi's verification model, why the parent demographic is unlike any other in consumer marketing, and what the affiliate channel still gets wrong about the publisher relationship.


Talking Points Include:

  • What Cubbi actually is and why the parent lifecycle is a marketer's playbook in a way that student discount platforms are not
  • The outreach reality nobody talks about: Olivia contacted a thousand brands before launch. Around thirty said yes. What those thirty did differently that made them irreplaceable partners
  • How Dragon's Den changed everything overnight, from word-of-mouth pockets across the UK to a nationwide spike in downloads and credibility that no paid campaign could have bought
  • Why Olivia screens every inbound brand enquiry personally and the red lines that will get a brand turned away regardless of budget


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • The exact moment Olivia decided Cubbi needed to exist, standing at a coffee shop counter on maternity pay and doing the mental arithmetic
  • What brands Olivia singles out as genuinely getting the parent audience right, and what they are doing that others are not
  • How Matthew from Cashblack supported Olivia at the moment she was closest to walking away, and why that kind of peer support matters more than people admit
  • The expansion plan for Cubbi, what comes after nailing the UK, and which markets are already asking when they are next
  • Why not everyone needs to understand what you are building, and how that mindset shift changes how you show up as a founder
  • What the Dragon's Den investment from Susie Ma has meant practically for the business beyond the headline number


Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[07:25] The scrappy startup reality: a thousand outreach messages, thirty brand partners, and what the ones who said yes understood that the others missed

[13:00] How Cubbi verifies users, why the verification model matters to brands, and the difference between targeted reach and spray-and-pray traffic

[15:37] Dragon's Den: why Olivia went on the show at nine months pregnant, what happened when the episode aired, and what a nationwide audience spike looks like on a growth map

[19:00] What the industry gets wrong about new publishers and why the affiliate channel is more transactional than it needs to be


Call to Action

A big thank you to Olivia for sharing her story so openly. If this episode has made you think differently about how your program handles early-stage publishers, that instinct is worth acting on.

KonverJ works with brands and affiliate managers to audit partner recruitment and relationship strategies from the ground up. If you want to build a program that attracts the next Cubbi before the competition does, get in touch with the team here.

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AEO, GEO, SEO: Who, What & Why16 Apr 202600:31:12

The rules of discovery are being rewritten in real time. Here is what affiliate managers need to understand before the market moves on without them.

If you have been half-listening to conversations about AI search and hoping it will settle down before you have to do anything about it, this episode is your wake-up call. Reza Moaiandin, co-founder of SALT.agency, has spent 25 years watching the internet evolve from static HTML to generative AI. He joins Lee-Ann to cut through the noise on SEO, AEO and GEO, explain what the data from his clients is actually showing about shifting user behaviour, and give affiliate managers a clear-headed diagnostic for where to focus right now.

Talking Points Include:

  • Why SEO, AEO and GEO are not three separate disciplines - and the crucial distinction between winning the click, being in the answer, and being part of the answer that every affiliate manager needs to understand right no
  • The 20% tipping point that changes everything - Reza's research tracks the mass adoption rate of generative AI globally, and his data suggests the hockey stick moment is closer than most people think
  • The collapsing customer funnel - how discovery, comparison, evaluation and shortlisting are now happening inside a single AI interaction, and what that means for the partner segmentation models affiliate programs still rely on


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • Why Reza refuses to use keyword difficulty as a meaningful metric, and the specific example of a tiny B2B company that outranked international businesses for a keyword rated 99 out of 100
  • The hidden technical trick using Cloudflare and server logs that lets you see which of your pages AI platforms are actually pulling, and what that tells you about how your affiliates' content is being used
  • Why ChatGPT and Claude give different answers when Reza is asked to pick a favourite, and which one he recommends for affiliate managers specifically
  • How the user journey is being compressed so that discovery, comparison and purchase intent are collapsing into a single AI interaction before a user even reaches your website
  • The generational behaviour shift Reza is tracking using his father and his teenage nephew as a real-world test of when mass adoption has genuinely arrived

Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[05:06] Reza breaks down the difference between SEO, AEO and GEO in plain language, and explains why confusing them leads affiliate managers to make the wrong budget decisions

[11:00] How the traditional customer funnel is collapsing inside a single AI interaction, illustrated with the running shoe example that makes the shift impossible to ignore

[20:40] The diagnostic Reza would run on any affiliate program today: where to start, what to fix first, and why fixing AEO and GEO before your SEO foundations are solid is a waste of time and budget

[24:44] The server log technique that tells you exactly which pages AI platforms are pulling from your site and your affiliates' content, and why most affiliate managers are not looking at this data

Call to Action

A big thank you to Reza for sharing his research and his thinking so generously. If this episode has made you question whether your current partner segmentation still reflects how your customers actually find you, that instinct is worth following up on.

KonverJ works with brands and affiliate managers to audit and rebuild partner strategies that are built for where the market is heading, not where it has been. If that conversation is timely for your program, get in touch with the team here.


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Is Your Affiliate Program Sick? How to Triage It09 Apr 202600:25:56

The diagnostic framework that 20 years of affiliate program management built - and why most programs are not broken, just badly diagnosed.

If your affiliate program is underperforming and you are not sure where to start, this episode will change how you think about the problem. No guest, no interview, just Lee-Ann, her two decades of affiliate marketing experience across e-commerce, SaaS, B2B, retail and iGaming, and the step-by-step framework she uses with clients to diagnose exactly what is wrong and what to fix first. This is one of those episodes you will want to listen to with a document open and a pen in hand.


Talking Points Include:

  • Why fixing everything at once is the fastest way to fix nothing -- the triage mindset borrowed from medicine that stops affiliate managers from burning through resources on the wrong problems at the wrong time
  • The five vital signs of an affiliate program and how to read them -- from active partner rate to communication cadence, the diagnostic checks that give you a clear picture of program health before you touch a single commission rate
  • The four root causes behind almost every underperforming affiliate program -- and why each one requires a completely different prescription


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • The efficiency logic behind why one focused priority per month beats a 20-point action plan every time
  • How to use conversion rate by partner type to spot traffic that looks good on paper but is costing you money
  • The void and reversal rate threshold that signals something is seriously wrong with either traffic quality or your returns process
  • Why tracking problems are the silent killer of affiliate programs, and the one test you should run this week if you cannot remember when you last did it
  • The three honest truths Lee-Ann shares at the end of the episode that rarely get said out loud in affiliate marketing


Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[01:00] Why most underperforming affiliate programs are not broken, just badly diagnosed, and the triage mindset that changes how you approach a fix

[04:14] The five vital signs of affiliate program health and how to read each one using data you already have access to

[13:25] The four root causes behind underperformance and the specific prescription for each one

[18:08] How to build a triage action plan using the one priority, one metric, four weeks rule

[21:49] The three hard truths about affiliate programs that do not get said often enough, and what acting on them actually looks like


Call to Action

If this episode gave you a clearer picture of what is holding your program back, the next step is making sure you have the right support around you. The KonverJ Agency works with affiliate program managers and brands who are ready to stop guessing and start building programs that perform. Find out how we can help at Konverj.io and start the conversation.

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Mastering The Art of Difficult Conversations With Affiliate Partners02 Apr 202600:26:34

The coaching framework that helps affiliate managers navigate commercial conflict, set boundaries, and lead with confidence even when the conversation gets uncomfortable.

If you have ever walked into a partner meeting already dreading it, or sent a reactive email on a Friday evening and regretted it by Sunday, this episode is for you. Tara Alvarez Garcia, performance and leadership coach with over 15 years in marketing and commercial roles, joins Lee-Ann to break down why difficult conversations go wrong, and what you can do differently before you even open your mouth. From handling underperforming affiliates to managing burnout in a permanently switched-on industry, this is the practical coaching session affiliate managers rarely get.


Talking Points Include:

  • The one mindset shift that changes every difficult conversation -- why reframing from "you versus the problem" to "we versus the problem" transforms the tone before anyone has said a word, and how proper preparation makes difficult meetings far less daunting
  • Why being always on is not a strength, it is a liability -- how the pressure to respond instantly to Slack, WhatsApp, and emails is quietly eroding performance, and the practical techniques Tara uses with senior leaders to reclaim thinking space
  • The difference between managing and leading in affiliate marketing -- using the engine and the driver analogy, Tara and Lee-Ann unpack why technical competency gets you to manager level but an entirely different skill set is required to lead a team or a partner program effectively


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • Why Tara recommends using AI tools like ChatGPT to role-play difficult conversations before they happen, and exactly how to prompt it to push back on you
  • The three practical leadership principles Tara leaves listeners with, and why they apply at every level of the industry
  • What Tara does when a coaching client comes to her already at rock bottom, and why she gets better results from the ones who arrive before the crisis hits
  • The special offer Tara has put together exclusively for listeners of this episode, and the link where you can claim it
  • Why the affiliate manager skills most at risk from AI are not the ones people think, and which human capabilities are genuinely irreplaceable

Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:
[02:45] The managing versus leading distinction explained: the engine gets the car moving, but who decides where it goes?

[06:25] How to enter a difficult commercial conversation prepared, collaborative, and clear on the outcome you actually want

[08:40] What to do when the conversation heats up: the case for controlled silence and slowing down before reacting

[13:00] Why thinking time is not a luxury in a leadership role, it is the job, and how to carve it out in a reactive industry

[18:30] Tara's blueprint for handling any difficult conversation, walked through step by step


Call to Action
Thanks to Tara Alvarez Garcia for such a grounded and genuinely practical episode. Tara has put together an exclusive offer for listeners, including a free downloadable blueprint for handling difficult conversations and a limited number of discounted one-off coaching sessions. You can access both at tyscoaching.com/affiliate-marketing-podcast.

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Why Traction Beats Perfection: Unveiling the Power of HerPlay26 Mar 202600:34:24

From Casino Dealer to iGaming Exit: What Hustle Actually Looks Like
You've heard people credit their success to luck. Karolina Pelc doesn't buy it. The founder of BeyondPlay, who built and sold her gaming software startup to FanDuel in 2024, traces every "fortunate" moment back to a decision, a risk, or a leap taken before she felt ready. In this episode, she joins Lee-Ann to talk about building a business in a male-dominated industry, the lessons that only come from failing, and her new book Her Play, which challenges the narrative that success is something that happens to you.


About Karolina Pelc

Karolina Pelc has spent over 20 years in gaming, starting as a casino dealer in Poland before working at London's most prestigious clubs and spending three years on cruise ships. She moved into online gaming as it was emerging, held roles across marketing, product, and business management, and was part of the LeoVegas team during its most exciting growth phase. She went on to found BeyondPlay, a software-as-a-service company specialising in multiplayer and jackpot products, which was acquired by FanDuel in February 2024. She now mentors early-stage founders and has channelled her journey into her debut book, Her Play, which publishes on 9 June in the UK & Europe and on 8th September in the USA & Canada.


Talking Points Include:

  • Why luck is a byproduct of motion, not a personality trait — the phrase at the heart of Her Play, and why Karolina developed it in response to a question she kept getting asked after the sale
  • What a cruise ship taught her about multiplayer gaming — and why the product idea she eventually built and sold wasn't random at all
  • The three moments she knew she had outgrown the room — from leaving a cruise ship job without a plan, to founding a startup in a 43-square-metre apartment during COVID lockdown
  • How failure compounds into advantage — why the jackpot product that got BeyondPlay acquired only existed because the original product wasn't getting traction fast enough
  • Building confidence in a male-dominated industry — Karolina's honest take on gender dynamics in gaming and the startup investment world, and why she sees her experience as a superpower rather than a disadvantage


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • What Karolina actually took away from her two visits to Necker Island, and how the experience shaped the book and her decision to mentor founders
  • How she navigated the identity crisis that came after selling BeyondPlay, and what helped her work out what she wanted to do next
  • The specific moment during COVID that convinced her to found the company rather than take a permanent job, despite every rational signal pointing the other way
  • Why she believes your past experience is never a liability, and how that thinking connects directly to what affiliate managers do every day
  • The five key takeaways Lee-Ann pulls from the conversation — including a fifth one Karolina adds herself, live on mic

Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[01:38] Karolina's introduction and the story behind HerPlay — from land-based casino dealer to iGaming exec to founder

[05:37] "Luck is a byproduct of motion" — where the phrase came from and what it actually means in practice

[18:15] The three defining leaps in Karolina's career, and what finally made her take each one

[25:00] Necker Island, Richard Branson, and the full-circle moment that launched the book

[32:00] Lee-Ann's four-point summary — and Karolina's fifth, which might be the best of all

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Season 24 in Review: The Industry is Changing: Here’s What We Learned This Season19 Mar 202600:36:43

Every major insight, turning point, and uncomfortable truth from the season that changed how the industry thinks about performance

If you missed any episode this season, or if you listened to all of them and want to make sense of where they connect, this is the one to come back to. Lee-Ann revisits every guest from Season 24 and draws out the thread that ran through every conversation: affiliate marketing is not evolving slowly anymore. It's shifting in real time, and the programs that are built on old assumptions are already falling behind.

Talking Points Include:

  • What our guests collectively confirmed -- the season's guests came from different corners of the industry, but they all arrived at the same conclusion
  • Why last-click attribution was already broken before AI made it worse -- the season built a steady, cumulative case against over-reliance on a single measurement model, and this episode pulls that argument together
  • The themes that surfaced again and again across eleven episodes -- zero-click search, compliance as a growth lever, open attribution, human relationships in an automated world, and what it really means to diversify a program in 2026

Listen to Find Out More About:

  • Why Lee-Ann opens the wrap-up by referencing what the season opener promised, and whether the season actually delivered on it
  • What Jon Ostler called "the great affiliate bypass" and why the structural shift he described is only going to accelerate from here
  • Stuart Miles's central lesson about low-friction partnerships and why it applies far beyond the tech and gadget publishing world he comes from
  • The moment in Lauryn Day's episode where the conversation about creator content and AI changes in search made clear that this is no longer a future concern
  • What Lee-Ann says she's taking into the next season, and the note of genuine optimism underneath a very clear-eyed summary of how much pressure the industry is under

Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[02:27] Ishtvan Torpoi revisited: the mega lag controversy and why disciplined monitoring beats partner volume every time

[06:20] Jon Ostler's great affiliate bypass: AI citations, publisher investment, and the attribution gap that last click can't explain

[18:47] Adam Ross on invisible revenue: how AWIN's Conversion Protection Initiative recovered $250 million in previously untracked value

[28:56] Alex Springer on open attribution: why collaboration across networks, publishers, and brands is now happening for the first time

[33:49] Lee-Ann's season close: what the industry learned, what still needs to change, and what Season 25 is already being built around


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Rethinking Affiliate, Creator, and Marketplaces with Levanta12 Mar 202600:29:50

The E-Commerce Brand's Guide to Unified Performance Marketing in 2026

If your affiliate and influencer teams are still working in separate silos with separate budgets and separate tools, this episode will challenge everything about how you've structured your program. Lauryn Day, Director of Agency Partnerships at Levanta, joins Lee-Ann to explain why the lines between affiliate and creator marketing have blurred beyond the point of separate strategies, what a unified approach actually looks like in practice, and why the brands thriving right now are the ones that have stopped treating these two channels as competitors for budget.

This is a practical, no-nonsense conversation about how modern e-commerce brands are scaling creator and affiliate programs across Amazon, Shopify, and Walmart, and what the data tells us about where discovery and conversion are actually happening in 2026.


About Lauryn Day

Lauryn Day is Director of Agency Partnerships at Levanta, the leading affiliate marketing software for marketplace sellers. Having started her career on the brand side before moving into tech, she brings a practical, dual-perspective view to creator and affiliate strategy that is rare in this space.


Talking Points Include:

  • Why most affiliate infrastructure was built more than 20 years ago and no longer reflects how brands actually operate, and what a modern platform built for today's e-commerce reality looks like
  • How Levanta's one-click integration with Amazon, Shopify, and Walmart collapses what used to be a multi-tool, multi-spreadsheet operation into a single five-minute setup
  • What AI is actually doing to the shopper journey, and why the data shows less than 10% of consumers who use AI for product research convert through it
  • The product sampling tool that replaced a spreadsheet-and-email nightmare and why brands are calling it one of the most immediately impactful features they've adopted
  • How creator content is now serving two parts of the buying funnel at once: driving direct discovery and feeding the LLM recommendations that consumers use to shortlist products
  • The real cost of over-indexing on bottom-funnel partners like coupon and loyalty sites, and how to build a program that serves the full funnel

Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[01:46] What Levanta is, how it was built, and why most affiliate infrastructure was already out of date before the creator economy arrived

[10:24] How consolidating creator and affiliate data into one platform changes the quality of decisions brands can make, with real client context

[22:12] Why treating creator and affiliate as separate strategies is the most common and most costly mistake Lauryn sees, and how to fix it

[26:30] Lauryn's three actionable tips for brands getting their programs ready for 2026:

  1. Consolidate your tech stack. Unify your creator, affiliate, and marketplace channels under one program so your team can focus on strategy rather than administration.
  2. Invest in top-of-funnel creator content. UGC builds brand trust, drives direct discovery, and increasingly feeds the AI recommendations consumers use to shortlist products.
  3. Stay nimble and test often. Whether it's trialling higher commissions for specific creators, experimenting with a hybrid compensation model, or testing a new content format, run short tests, look at the data, and be willing to pivot quickly.

A huge thank you to Lauryn Day for joining us and sharing her insights on where creator and affiliate marketing is heading. If you want to explore what Levanta can do for your program, you can connect with Lauryn directly on LinkedIn or reach out via their website.

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Open Attribution: The Fix for the Zero-Click Era05 Mar 202600:37:02

Why Every Affiliate Manager Needs to Understand What's Happening to Search Right Now

Search is changing faster than most programs can adapt. AI-powered platforms like ChatGPT and Gemini are absorbing customer journeys that used to generate trackable clicks, and the content that influences purchasing decisions is increasingly going unrecognised and unpaid.

In this episode, Lee-Ann sits down with Alex Springer, Director at openattribution.org, and Leanna Klyne, Head of Agency at KonverJ, to unpack what open attribution actually means, why last-click attribution was already broken before AI arrived, and what the industry is doing about it together, many of them for the very first time.

If you work with publishers, run an affiliate program, or depend on content-driven traffic to generate sales, this conversation will reshape how you think about measurement, value, and what comes next.

Talking Points Include:

  • Why content creators are producing value they will never be paid for and what needs to change before the affiliate industry loses its commercial foundation entirely
  • The difference between how people shop and how AI thinks people buy and why that gap is exactly where affiliate marketing's future opportunity lives
  • Why last click was always a fiction and why the shift to AI-assisted search is finally forcing the industry to confront it
  • What Open Attribution actually is and why it starts with something as simple as a list of URLs that changed everything


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • What the agentic commerce protocols from OpenAI and Google actually do, and why the contributions Open Attribution is making to them matter for every publisher and brand in performance marketing
  • Why some of the highest-quality publisher content has been deliberately removed from AI training sets, and what that means for the accuracy of AI recommendations right now
  • The early warning signs that brands and affiliate managers should be watching for as AI-generated content starts to game LLM visibility the same way SEO was gamed in the early days of Google
  • How the SPUR initiative and the APMA AI task force connect to what Open Attribution is building, and where compliance and governance conversations are actually happening
  • Why Alex believes websites are not going away in five years, and what types of purchases will continue to require the kind of considered, content-led journeys that affiliate publishers are built to support


Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[02:47] Alex introduces Open Attribution, his decade in performance marketing, and why he shifted focus from AI as a technology to AI as an industry actor

[05:45] Why last click was already broken before AI, and what transparency and usage auditability actually mean for content owners and brands

[27:05] The CPA debate: whether cost-per-acquisition still makes sense, what influence really means now, and why the shopping journey has always been more complex than the model we used to measure it


Ready to Build a Smarter Affiliate Program?

If this episode raised questions about how your program is measuring influence, attributing value, or preparing for an AI-first customer journey, the KonverJ team can help. We work with brands and publishers to build affiliate strategies that are built for where performance marketing is heading, not just where it has been.

Get in touch with the KonverJ team to find out how we can help you build a program that performs in the new landscape.

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The Hidden Affiliate Risk That Could Sink Your Brand26 Feb 202600:28:51

How treating compliance as a marketing function rather than a legal checkbox can protect your program, your brand, and your bottom line.

If compliance makes your eyes glaze over, this episode is worth pushing through. Sarafina Wolde Gabriel, CEO of Rightlander and a 20-year veteran of affiliate marketing, joins Lee-Ann to make the case that compliance is not a legal formality but a direct driver of revenue. They get into why the biggest programs are still leaving massive blind spots unchecked, what AI-generated content is doing to risk exposure, why a large affiliate is not automatically a compliant one, and the practical steps any affiliate manager can take today to audit their program before a regulator does it for them.


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • Why even a compliant, long-standing affiliate in your program can still be exposing your brand through content they published years ago and have forgotten about
  • How the Honey browser extension scandal is a preview of the tracking integrity challenges that are coming for affiliate programs this year
  • What Sarafina would prioritise in the first week of managing a new affiliate program to put the right compliance foundations in place from day one
  • Why proving to a regulator that you had systems and monitoring in place before a problem occurred can be the difference between a warning and a fine
  • How to split compliance responsibilities across your team so it does not all sit on one person and quietly fall off the priority list during busy periods
  • The one piece of advice Sarafina would give any affiliate manager building a program from scratch, and why knowing your affiliates is still the most important thing in this industry after 20 years

Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[03:05] Why the foundations of affiliate marketing have not fundamentally changed in 20 years, and what that means for how you should still be operating today

[05:09] What actually happens to revenue when compliance fails, and the moment a customer walks away because your affiliate's promotional content did not match reality

[06:38] Rightlander's core function explained: scanning, risk scoring, and giving affiliate managers an action step rather than just a data dump

[21:58] The two compliance trends coming in the next two to three years that most programs are not yet preparing for

[23:26] The five-point compliance checklist Sarafina recommends for any affiliate manager who has never formally audited their program before


Call to Action

A big thank you to Sarafina Wolde Gabriel for joining us this week and for making compliance feel like something worth paying attention to rather than something to hand off to legal. You can connect with Sarafina on LinkedIn and find out more about what Rightlander does at rightlander.com.

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Trust Over Transactions: Building Loyalty in Modern Affiliate Marketing19 Feb 202600:29:24

Why personalised affiliate recruitment still outperforms automation (and what the best affiliate managers do differently)

If your affiliate recruitment is generating lists but not conversations, this episode is your reset. Frederic Jean-Bart, founder of Performance Partners, has spent 17 years building relationships across every side of this industry: affiliate networks, brand-side program management, and as an affiliate himself. Lee-Ann and Fred get into why the era of AI-generated outreach is actually making human connection more valuable, not less, how deal making with high-quality affiliates is where real program growth happens, and what separates elite affiliate managers from everyone else hitting send on the same mass email.


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • The exact communication gap between what affiliate managers send and what top publishers actually need to see before they say yes
  • Why media buyers are among the best affiliates for scale but require a completely different recruitment and relationship strategy than any other partner type
  • How AEO and brand citation are starting to change where affiliate influence happens in the customer journey, and what that means for program strategy
  • Why Fred's advice to his 2009 self comes down to one word and what that means practically for anyone building a career in this industry
  • The rapid fire breakdown on CPA versus revenue share, the one book Fred says every agency owner should read, and why boring operations beat exciting chaos every single time
  • What trust actually looks like in practice with high-value affiliate partners, and why paying on time is as much a relationship signal as any personal outreach

Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[01:51] Fred introduces his 17-year career spanning network, brand, and affiliate sides of the industry and why building Performance Partners came out of working with nine-figure e-commerce brands

[05:05] Lee-Ann shares the exact outreach emails she receives that get deleted instantly, and what three pieces of information every affiliate needs before they'll respond

[09:35] The case for getting on video calls with key partners and why the human ability to convey excitement and credibility over a call still closes deals that email cannot

[15:30] Why media buyers are the most powerful affiliate type for scale but also the most burnt out by programs that overpromise, and what building genuine trust with them requires

[17:40] Partner diversification as risk management, why brands default to influencers and coupon sites, and how Fred approaches segmentation from day one of a new program


Call to Action
A huge thank you to Frederic Jean-Bart for joining us this week. If this episode has made you rethink how you're recruiting affiliates and managing partner relationships, KonverJ works with brands at exactly this level, building programs that are built on strategy, not spray and pray. Find out how we work with brands here.

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Awin's Adam Ross: Why Affiliate Still Wins! Two Decades Distilled in One Episode12 Feb 202600:32:14

Why tracking everything your affiliates do matters more now than ever before (and what conversion protection tells us about lost revenue)

If your affiliate program isn't tracking properly, you could be losing millions without realising it. Adam Ross, CEO of Awin and 21-year industry veteran, reveals exactly how AI-powered search is fragmenting the customer journey, why deterministic tracking alone won't survive the next five years, and how Awin's Conversion Protection Initiative has already recovered over $250 million in previously untracked revenue. Lee-Ann and Adam discuss his leadership approach, why probabilistic tracking methods are becoming essential, and what the convergence of influencer and affiliate marketing means for program growth.


Talking Points Include:

  • The seismic shift happening in content attribution – how LLMs are citing publisher content to answer consumer queries, why this value currently goes unrewarded, and the new tracking signals needed to expose it
  • Why different traffic deserves different tracking methods – different traffic has different value and possibly needs different tracking methods and different reward mechanisms, ending the era of treating all affiliate partnerships equally
  • The conversion protection wake-up call – how forcing tracking upgrades revealed $16 million in additional commission and what this tells us about invisible program value


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • Why Awin does quarterly seasonal product releases to bring meaningful improvements to advertiser and publisher experiences, with the winter release focused on simplifying what is still an incredibly complex channel to help everyone get much more value out of the space
  • How the new platform aims to get smaller advertisers to money-making partnerships as quickly as possible without needing account management support, using 25 years of data to know which partnerships work, what rates to pay, and how to increase active partnerships
  • Why Adam is extremely bullish about affiliate's future, noting that while this disruption is probably going to be much bigger than past changes, affiliate is a wonderful monetisation infrastructure that can be quite agnostic about how end user experiences evolve
  • The exciting new influx of AI startups connecting at scale with multiple brands looking for ways to monetise, where the CPA model works very well for AI recommendations based on personalisation
  • Why the convergence of influencer and affiliate marketing continues accelerating and why people will always want to buy from other people, even when using AI for research
  • What it means that there's got to be an acceptance that in a lot of cases, the old ways of tracking from a technical perspective are no longer going to work, whilst deterministic tracking remains super important as the base

Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[01:15] The unlikely journey from dentistry student to affiliate marketing through a recruiter who saw potential beyond experience

[18:55] Why different affiliate traffic has different value and needs different tracking methods and reward mechanisms

[27:00] How Awin's seasonal product releases bring quarterly improvements and what the winter release means for platform simplification


Call to Action

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Beyond Discounts: Zilch Reveals What Actually Influences UK Purchases Today05 Feb 202600:24:46

If you're running an affiliate program based purely on last-click attribution, you're missing the complete picture of how customers actually buy. Phil Thompson, Partnerships Manager at fintech publisher Zilch, shares insights from their platform's 5 million UK customers to reveal shopping behaviours that challenge everything affiliate managers assume about consumer loyalty, price sensitivity, and partner value. Lee-Ann and Phil discuss why traditional cookie tracking leaves critical gaps, how to leverage first-party data without expensive integrations, and why the grocery shopper who seems loyal to one brand is simultaneously spending three times more with competitors.


Talking Points Include:

  • The affiliate channel's unique negotiation problem that happens after the sale instead of before, and why payment processing data fills gaps that cookie consent leaves behind
  • How Zilch's fee-free credit model converts competitor customers by offsetting the cost of interest-free installments through merchant commissions rather than charging consumers late fees or interest
  • Why price-led marketing is lazy marketing and what Valentine's Day dinner-for-two campaigns teach us about emotional storytelling that actually changes consumer behavior.


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • The exact moment UK consumers became willing to abandon brand loyalty for fee-free payment flexibility, and what this reveals about post-peak shopping psychology
  • Why Phil refuses to position Zilch campaigns as integration-heavy when they run on standard Visa rails, and how this changes the barrier to entry for testing new publisher types
  • How Intelligent Commerce tracking uses merchant ID data to close attribution gaps that cookie-based models leave wide open
  • The demographic shift that took Zilch from Gen Z fintech app to cross-generational payment tool, and why cost-of-living pressures create opportunities for value-focused affiliate partnerships
  • Why diversification matters more than ever when clicks still exist but shopping behavior fragments across devices, apps, and privacy-conscious browsing


Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[09:05] How Intelligent Commerce works: using merchant ID and payment processing data to fill attribution gaps that traditional cookie tracking misses

[13:16] The consistent age-group patterns Zilch sees in 2025 spending data, and why everyone hunts for value right now, not just younger demographics

[22:22] Why one-month campaigns don't typically move consumer behaviour needles, and the longer timeline required to shift shopping habits permanently

[25:07] Phil's call for affiliate managers to stay open to testing and learning, even after being burned by publisher types in the past


Call to Action

The affiliate programs that thrive this year won't be the ones clinging to 2019 playbooks. They'll be the managers who embrace data partnerships, extend attribution visibility beyond cookie tracking, and recognize that publishers deliver value across the entire funnel, not just at conversion. Ready to build a program that leverages first-party shopping intelligence? Work with the KonverJ team to audit your current partner mix and identify the data gaps costing you revenue. We'll help you move beyond last-click thinking and build partnerships that capture the complete customer journey.

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Conversations with a Pinnacle of the Affiliate Industry29 Jan 202600:31:57

When Tricia Meyer's name was called as this year's Pinnacle Award winner at Affiliate Summit West, there was a moment of silence. Not because the room disagreed, but because Tricia herself didn't believe it. After two decades of watching her heroes receive that same recognition, the publisher-turned-executive director of the Performance Marketing Association finally earned the industry's most prestigious honor. This conversation explores what it actually takes to reach the top without losing yourself, why being kind isn't a weakness in business negotiations, and how staying curious about industry changes for 20 years reveals patterns that help you stop panicking about AI, zero-click search, and whatever disruption comes next.


Talking Points Include:

  • The attorney who left law for affiliate marketing when she realized publishers could earn more than lawyers and built a 20-year career that started with mom blogs and evolved into executive leadership
  • Why community platforms fail but weekly calls succeed isn't just about affiliates – the same principles apply to how industry associations create genuine connection versus performative membership
  • The shocking truth about affiliate marketing's growth that most brands miss – independent studies prove the channel is outpacing e-commerce itself, not just riding the online shopping wave


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • Why Tricia created custom tracking tools using AI to solve AI-caused attribution problems, and how small publishers can do the same with vibe coding platforms like Lovable
  • The critical section being added to PMA's retailer agreement guide about AI usage, plagiarism, and disclosure requirements in affiliate terms and conditions
  • How Google's constant testing of citations in Gemini (from detailed paragraph attribution to zero citations to YouTube video insertions) reveals nobody knows what's coming next
  • Why publishers might strategically rewrite content to feature competitors if brands don't properly value their contribution to LLM-driven traffic
  • The new AI Council launching to address both publisher optimization for LLMs and technology solutions for brands dealing with compliance and tracking
  • How fintech and B2B affiliate marketing represent massive industry segments the PMA is finally addressing with dedicated resources
  • Why analyzing five years of industry study data would reveal cyclical patterns that help predict where apparent disruptions actually lead
  • How Open Attribution is creating free membership opportunities to discuss citation tracking and publisher rewards in the age of LLMs


Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[06:02] Working from the bottom of PMA working groups to executive director, and why being an attorney made Tricia the perfect fit for part-time leadership

[[19:54] Three critical areas where affiliates need preparation for 2025: LLM optimization, proving publisher worth through journey tracking, and staying educated on rapid changes

[27:00] Why affiliate program terms and conditions need AI clauses now, covering content generation, plagiarism, and disclosure requirements

[30:11] The five-year prediction: fundamentally everything stays the same but with different technical details, just like the last 20 years of disruption

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Why Human Approaches to Building Affiliate Partnerships Still Work22 Jan 202600:36:01

The OG Publisher's Blueprint for Building Partnerships That Actually Last

Your affiliate program has hundreds of approved publishers, but only a handful are actively promoting you. Sound familiar? Stuart Miles, founder of Squirrel and former owner of Pocket-lint (which he grew to 12.5 million monthly readers before exiting), reveals why most affiliate managers are accidentally destroying publisher relationships before they even begin. Lee-Ann and Stuart discuss why product feeds matter more than commission rates, and the six tactical shifts that separate transactional affiliate programs from genuine partnerships that drive consistent revenue.

Talking Points Include:

  • The relevance test every affiliate manager fails – how understanding audience profiles transforms your outreach from spam into valuable partnership opportunities
  • Why making it harder for publishers to link to you kills conversions – the 15-minute friction point that costs you thousands in lost sales, and how removing barriers between story ideas and affiliate links changes everything
  • The coffee shop approach to publisher relationships – why the best partnerships happen outside of product launches and promotional cycles, and what real-life relationship building looks like in 2026

Listen to Find Out More About:

  • Why standardised product feeds matter more than you think, and how retailers without them are losing visibility across major publisher platforms
  • The exact moment Stuart realised Pocket-lint competitors were stealing his affiliate links, and what Amazon's phone call revealed about attribution tracking
  • How international audience expansion forced Pocket-lint to build automated localisation, and why showing UK readers US pricing destroys conversion rates
  • The pub test Stuart used with new journalists to determine if a story was actually worth publishing, and how this filter led to explosive audience growth
  • Why retailers that can't beat Amazon on price can still win publisher placements through customer service ratings and relevance scoring
  • What happened when Stuart's team spent more time finding affiliate links than writing stories, and the efficiency breakthrough that led to Squirrel's creation

Call to Action

Ready to transform how you work with publisher partners? The strategies Stuart shared didn't come from theory – they came from two decades in the trenches building one of the world's most successful consumer technology publications. If you're serious about moving beyond transactional affiliate relationships into genuine partnerships that drive consistent revenue, subscribe to Affiverse's Affiliate Marketing newsletter for weekly insights that help you stay ahead of industry shifts. Our team translates complex partnership strategies into actionable frameworks you can implement immediately.

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The Great Affiliate Bypass: Understanding the Impact of AEO in 202615 Jan 202600:33:22

Why Your Affiliate Program Might Be Losing Traffic Without You Realising It

When 62% of AI citations reference affiliate sources but only 20% link to direct providers, something fundamental has shifted in how consumers discover financial products. Jon Ostler, CEO of finder.com and digital marketing veteran since 1997, reveals research that should worry every affiliate program manager: AI is scraping content from publishers, summarising their expert analysis, then sending consumers directly to providers while cutting out the affiliates who created that value. Lee-Ann and Jon discuss what this means for content publishers who've invested millions in editorial teams, how the performance model needs to evolve beyond last-click attribution, and why the publishers who survive will be those who understand their true value isn't just traffic anymore.


Talking Points Include:

The research findings that sparked this conversation - Jon analysed best-for-finance product searches across AI engines and discovered AI overwhelmingly cites affiliate content while bypassing affiliate links, fundamentally disrupting how publishers monetise their expertise

Why this isn't plagiarism in the traditional sense - AI doesn't reason from first principles but delivers consensus answers by absorbing content investment from publishers, raising urgent questions about compensation models when your editorial work powers AI responses but generates zero clicks


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • Jon's LinkedIn research that quantified exactly how AI citations reference affiliate content while bypassing affiliate monetisation
  • Why branded search and direct traffic increases often mask AI influence you're not being compensated for under current attribution models
  • The specific vulnerability AI systems share with early search engines and why chasing short-term exploitation breaks long-term brand building
  • How Google's antitrust position creates pressure to maintain ad revenue growth even as AI overviews reduce organic click-through rates
  • Why Reddit strategies and multimedia affiliate approaches create the consensus signals AI relies on when formulating answers
  • The exact metrics Jon tracks beyond sales figures to understand genuine community health and identify which publishers drive sustainable value


Ready to Master the Next Evolution of Performance Marketing?

If this conversation with Jon Ostler revealed gaps in your current affiliate strategy, Affiverse Agency can help you navigate this transition with confidence. Our team specialises in helping affiliate program managers rebuild their partner ecosystems for an AI-influenced world, from identifying which publishers bring genuine value beyond last-click attribution to structuring commercial models that reward upstream influence. Whether you need strategic partner segmentation, innovative attribution frameworks, or simply expert guidance on what deserves your budget investment right now, we've worked with programs at every stage of this evolution. Visit Affiverse Agency to explore how our consulting services can transform uncertainty into competitive advantage, or reach out directly to discuss your specific program challenges. The publishers and program managers who thrive won't be those who mastered yesterday's best practices but those who understood tomorrow's fundamentals before their competitors did.

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Honey, We Have a Problem? Navigating the Affiliate Channel in 202608 Jan 202600:33:04

Why Auto-Approving Affiliates in 2026 Is Like Leaving Your Front Door Wide Open

If you're still auto-approving affiliate applications or letting every partner type into your program without a clear strategy, this episode explains exactly why that approach will cost you this year. Ishtvan Torpoi, known industry-wide as "that affiliate guy," joins Lee-Ann to unpack the MegaLag controversy, distinguish between coupon browser extensions and cashback models, and reveal why the vast majority of affiliate management work happens after launch, not before. This conversation delivers the strategic framework you need to build programs that actually drive incremental value rather than just revenue on paper.


Talking Points Include:

  • The browser extension distinction that most managers miss including why cashback browser extensions operate fundamentally differently than coupon extensions and how to set different commission structures for each
  • Why more affiliates doesn't equal more conversions and how one wellness brand caught an 800-install fraud farm within 24 hours by watching data like a hawk during new partner launches
  • The three non-negotiables for 2026 from monitoring performance data properly to changing default payout models based on customer lifetime value to implementing compliance monitoring before problems emerge


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • Why European brands lag behind US brands in customer lifetime value thinking and how that affects willingness to pay higher initial commissions for quality partners
  • The exact process for testing whether browser extensions actually improve cart abandonment rates or any other claimed metric before committing to partnerships
  • How to structure commission differences between browser extension triggers and website-initiated traffic to reward genuine customer journey starts
  • Why reading affiliate sales pitches isn't enough and how to test partners as actual users to understand their real impact on your funnel
  • The data infrastructure investments that separate £30 million brands still doing manual analysis from brands with five data scientists building proper warehouses
  • How to spot bot farms and fraud attempts within 24 hours of new partner launches by monitoring specific conversion ratio patterns


Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[12:10] How to determine which of the 18-19 affiliate types make sense for new program launches based on internal marketing capabilities and desired speed to revenue

[22:00] Why brands at every size from startups to £30 million operations struggle with data aggregation and proper tooling investments

[27:45] The three non-negotiables for 2026: watching data like a hawk, changing default payout models, and implementing compliance monitoring

[30:50] Quality control processes that prevent fraud, including conversion validation checks and why auto-approval creates cleanup work rather than preventing problems


Call to Action

Huge thanks to Ishtvan Torpoi for sharing the frameworks he implements across diverse client programs at every stage of maturity. If this episode clarified where your program strategy needs adjustment, subscribe to the Affiliate Marketing Podcast so you catch every tactical insight that helps you build programs delivering genuine incremental value. Join us at the ELEVATE Summit in July 2026 in London, where strategic conversations happen between sessions and partnerships form that transform programs. Early bird tickets launch in January.

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New Year, New Season: Affiliate Marketing Review and What's to Come01 Jan 202600:33:19

The Year Affiliate Marketing Proved Its Power While Rewriting All the Rules

If you thought affiliate marketing was mature, predictable, or figured out, this year proved you spectacularly wrong. Lee-Ann Johnstone takes you inside the most transformative year our industry has ever experienced, where UK brands delivered £16 for every £1 invested while simultaneously watching 60% of searches end without a single click. This isn't just a recap of what happened. It's a master class in how the smartest operators adapted when zero-click search, AI integration, and algorithm chaos threatened to upend everything we thought we knew about performance marketing.

Talking Points Include:

  • The shocking numbers that prove affiliate marketing dominates digital marketing with £19 billion in UK basket revenue, $113 billion in US e-commerce sales, and ROI figures that make other channels look obsolete
  • Why 60% of searches now end without clicks and what the smartest publishers did differently when AI Overviews decimated traffic by up to 89%

The three business lessons that changed how Lee-Ann runs Affiverse including why saying no to clients actually increased demand and how community building became the antidote to algorithm dependency.


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • Why independent bloggers overtook major media outlets in content affiliate spend for the first time, and what this shift reveals about authentic voices versus corporate content farms
  • The exact community building strategies that made some programs resilient when algorithm changes devastated others, and why owning your audience relationships transcends platform dependency
  • How Affiverse reached nearly a million podcast downloads, trained over 3,000 practitioners globally, and launched the ELEVATE Summit and RAV Awards while doubling agency clients
  • The innovation that genuinely worked this year, from community-led programs building true partnerships to video-first publishers seeing engagement rates that dwarfed traditional content
  • Why data privacy will define winners and losers, and what first-party data strategies look like for brands that excel at collection and leverage
  • The specific metrics proving affiliate marketing delivers ROI other channels can't match, with sector-by-sector breakdowns showing 11:1 to 21:1 returns

Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[10:30] The UK and US industry numbers that prove affiliate marketing delivers ROI other channels can't match, with specific sector breakdowns

[35:45] The three business lessons that changed how Lee-Ann approaches agency work, event planning, and community building

[56:00] What's coming in 2026 and 2027, including specialized roles, attribution evolution, and data privacy defining winners

[1:02:15] Affiverse milestones across media, agency, and community impact, plus what's launching in 2026

Call to Action

This episode captures the year that separated operators who adapt from those who wait for best practices to emerge. If these insights sparked ideas for how you'll approach affiliate marketing differently in 2026, subscribe to the Affiliate Marketing Podcast so you never miss the strategic frameworks that help you stay ahead. Join us at the ELEVATE Summit in July 2026 in London, where the industry comes together not just to learn, but to actually move forward. Early bird tickets launch in January.

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A Christmas Wrap-Up: The Conversations That Shaped This Season25 Dec 202500:36:27

A Christmas Day Special Celebrating the Insights, Breakthroughs, and Bold Conversations That Defined Our Season

Welcome to this very special Christmas Day edition of the Affiliate Marketing Podcast. Throughout Season 23, we dug deep into the engines behind impactful content, questioned the role of SEO and AI algorithms in a world that still craves human connection, and spotlighted the evolution of affiliate marketing from community-driven growth to loyalty-first strategies and consumer discovery beyond the usual channels. Today's episode is a moment to look back on all we shared this season, appreciate how far we've come together, and celebrate the insights we gathered along the way. Grab a cup of something warm, settle in, and enjoy this Christmas Day Special as we wind up the season that's past and get ready for an even bigger one ahead.

What You'll Hear in This Episode:

  • The 6:1 content ratio that's reshaping digital marketing as Saurabh Singh reveals why educational content consistently outperforms promotional posts and how trust has become the new currency in affiliate marketing
  • Why most affiliate programs stall before they ever hit momentum with Florin Simovici's operational insights from 15 years of hands-on experience building scalable, sustainable programs
  • The harsh reality of building a content-first publisher from scratch as George Sullivan opens up about facing rejection after rejection and what affiliate managers misunderstand about the publisher's journey
  • Why user-generated content is now the most powerful lever in affiliate growth from Dennis Yu's billion-dollar ad spend experience with brands like Nike and Starbucks
  • How AI-powered answer engines are capturing a quarter of global queries and what Colin Jeavons says this disruption really means for affiliate managers navigating an uncertain future
  • The loyalty-building principles that turn silent affiliates into thriving communities as Alex Hitt shares why genuine connection, not higher commissions, truly drives retention
  • Why most organisations stall on AI adoption with Katie King's roadmap for building strategic frameworks and embedding responsible governance before regulation arrives
  • How daily payouts became the most powerful micro trust signal as the Exness team reveals their journey scaling from 18 to more than 100 countries with human-centric logic
  • Why platforms like Reddit are suddenly outranking traditional reviews and how Ewen Finser steered more than 100 websites through Google's volatility into the AI-driven landscape
  • How to run your affiliate program ethically in the age of AI as Leanna Klyne and Lee-Ann discuss automation that stays human and what regulation might mean for your partner management.

Call to Action

Season 23 gave you the frameworks, now it's time to implement them. Whether you're rebuilding your onboarding process using Alex's white-glove approach, restructuring your content strategy around Saurabh's 6:1 ratio, or preparing your team for AI adoption using Katie's governance roadmap, the insights from this season only create value when you put them into action. Subscribe to the Affiliate Marketing Podcast so you're ready when Season 24 launches on New Year's Day with bold predictions for 2026 and conversations that push the boundaries of where affiliate and performance marketing are headed. DM Lee-Ann on LinkedIn and share what you're struggling with or want to know more about, and she'll find the right expert to get on the mic and talk us through it.

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Ethical Affiliate Marketing in the Age of AI18 Dec 202500:36:42

When Automation Becomes Dehumanisation (And How to Stop It Before You Lose Your Best Partners)

If you're using AI to manage your affiliate program but wondering why engagement keeps dropping, this episode explains exactly what's going wrong. Leanna Klyne, Affiverse's Agency Director with 18 years in the trenches, joins Lee-Ann to dissect the hidden cost of over-automation. They explore why AI-approved partners sometimes include your competitors, how content creators are being misrepresented by tools that don't understand context, and why the human touch still drives the partnerships that actually convert. This conversation offers practical guardrails for using AI responsibly without sacrificing the relationships that make affiliate marketing work.

Talking Points Include:

  • The approval automation trap that declined a top publisher because AI couldn't distinguish between a media buyer and a content site, costing the program a valuable winter sports partner during summer dormancy
  • Why segmented outreach beats mass emails every time and how investing four extra hours monthly to tailor content by partner type builds the micro-trust relationships that drive long-term revenue
  • The compliance blind spot that could make you legally liable when faceless accounts and user-generated content creators slip through automated vetting without legitimate contact details


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • Why being transparent about AI use in outreach emails actually increases response rates and adds humor that builds rapport instead of destroying trust
  • The specific data you should never put into public AI tools like ChatGPT because it becomes open source and violates client confidentiality
  • How to write program terms that clearly define acceptable AI usage for partners while protecting your brand from deepfakes and unauthorised voice replication
  • The exact compliance risks that emerge when automated approvals let unverifiable partners into regulated verticals without legitimate contact information
  • Why boring consistency often outperforms fancy AI implementation, and how simple calendar reminders maintain partner relationships better than sophisticated automation
  • Lee-Ann's personal policy on LinkedIn messages and why every response comes from her, not a chatbot pretending to be her

Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[18:08] The segmentation strategy that achieves industry-leading open rates by speaking directly to six or seven partner types instead of mass-blasting generic content

[27:00] How to use AI for trend spotting within partner data to identify optimal booking windows that increase performance 7% above industry mean while cutting wasted spend

[37:09] The essential ethical guardrails that preserve humanity while enabling innovation, including the perspective shift that changes how you evaluate every AI decision

Call to Action

Huge thanks to Leanna Klyne for sharing the real-world AI frameworks she implements daily across Affiverse's agency clients. If this episode helped you see where automation enhances relationships versus where it destroys them, subscribe to the Affiliate Marketing Podcast so you catch every practical insight that helps you build programs partners actually want to join. Share this with another affiliate manager wrestling with AI adoption, and let's raise the standard for ethical partnership management across the entire industry.

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Pathways to Performance: Mastering the Modern User Journey11 Dec 202500:34:07

Why Your Clicks Are Down But Your Impact Might Be Up

If your affiliate traffic feels fragmented and you're wondering whether to panic about AI search, this episode cuts through the noise. Ewen Finser, CEO of ScaleVisible, shares battle-tested insights from managing over 100 websites through Google's algorithm upheavals and into the AI era. Lee-Ann and Ewen discuss why Reddit threads now outrank traditional reviews, how zero-click searches create hidden value for brands, and why YouTube might be your smartest investment right now. This conversation reveals a counterintuitive truth: the scariest disruptions often create the biggest opportunities for those willing to adapt strategically.

Talking Points Include:

  • The payment partnership that signals where AI search is heading and why PayPal's integration with Perplexity matters more than most affiliate managers realise for the future of attribution
  • Why your editorial placements are already providing AI value and the exact framework for describing citation impact to justify budgets when traditional clicks decline
  • The three-platform strategy that influences multiple AI engines simultaneously from YouTube rankings in ChatGPT to Reddit dominance in Google's AI Overviews

Listen to Find Out More About:

  • Why some de-indexed spam blogs are suddenly ranking in ChatGPT and what that means for content strategy in the short term versus long term
  • The exact correlation overlap between top 10 Google rankings and ChatGPT citations (hint: it's shockingly low at around 15 percent)
  • How ReddVisible pivoted from affiliate publishing to Reddit reputation management to AI visibility strategy through three distinct market disruptions
  • Why query fan-out matters more than individual keywords when optimizing for AI search engines that personalize every response
  • The specific metrics Ewen tracks to demonstrate AI visibility impact when traditional attribution falls short
  • How trust signals accumulate across Reddit, YouTube, and third-party blogs to influence AI recommendations without generating direct clicks

Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[16:03] The real-world shopping journey example that illustrates search fragmentation across Which, Google, YouTube, ChatGPT, and Amazon

[20:43] Why PayPal's Perplexity partnership signals the zero-click future and what affiliate managers should watch for next

[32:39] Original content versus AI-generated spam: what works now versus what will work as AI engines develop their own web spam teams

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5 Tips for Growing your Affiliate Program in Emerging Markets like LATAM04 Dec 202500:30:50

Why Trading Programs That Move Fast Break Everything (And How Slow Growth Built a 115-Country Empire)

If your affiliate program chases explosive growth with aggressive spend and flashy campaigns, this episode reveals why you might be building on sand. Yana Ivanova and Nir Iter from Exness share how they scaled from 18 to 115 countries not through brute force marketing, but through something radical in trading: patience. Lee-Ann and her guests discuss why daily payouts matter more than commission rates, how localisation means hiring humans who actually understand regional nuances, and why the Latin American market demands emotional connection before transactional relationships. This conversation reveals a counterintuitive truth: sometimes slow and steady really does win the race.

Talking Points Include:

  • The payment infrastructure breakthrough that built trust faster than any marketing campaign and why waiting until month-end to pay affiliates destroys credibility in emerging markets
  • Why treating LATAM as a single homogeneous market is the fastest path to failure and the exact localisation strategy that transformed passive content into community engagement across culturally distinct countries
  • The team structure that prevents cannibalisation when 11 account managers chase global traffic and how individual KPIs combined with team goals create collaboration instead of internal competition

Listen to Find Out More About:

  • How Exness structures team KPIs to prevent account managers from fighting over global affiliates while maintaining healthy competition
  • The buddy program that integrates new team members without creating hierarchical friction in an 11-person global team
  • Why the company prioritises quality over quantity now, deliberately slowing growth to ensure sustainable partnerships
  • The specific data points Exness analyses constantly to identify which markets deserve localised attention versus broad global treatment
  • How mobile measurement platforms become essential tools for LATAM affiliates where phone traffic dominates
  • The real reason trading affiliate programs traditionally used CPA models and how Exness diversified beyond that constraint

Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[08:17] The long-term mindset explained through hotel guest analogies and why three-year plans beat quarterly targets

[16:29] Daily payment implementation and the risk mitigation strategy that made it viable without enabling fraud

[20:34] Team scaling from a handful to 11 professionals and how specialisation by region prevents global chaos

[33:03] Honest advice for newcomers: pick your niche, build community, trust your data

Latin America: The Opportunity Ahead

For affiliates considering Latin America in 2026, both guests offered clear direction. Yana's focus centres on local communities, as the region values authentic, community-driven marketing over impersonal automation. Nir emphasised mobile optimisation, noting that with young, mobile-first audiences, ensuring your tracking, creatives, and user experience are optimised for phones is non-negotiable. Tools like AppsFlyer or other mobile measurement platforms are essential.

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The Future is Agentic: How to Prepare for AI in Affiliate Marketing27 Nov 202500:32:52

Guest: Katie King, Author of AI Strategy for Sales and Marketing: Connecting Marketing, Sales and Customer Experience

If you've been treating AI like a search engine or worrying you're falling behind, this episode cuts through the noise. Katie King, who's been tracking AI developments since 2019 and advises major brands like O2, Arsenal, and Virgin, joins Lee-Ann Johnstone to reveal why 80% of AI success depends on people, not tools. She shares the strategic frameworks that turn scattered experiments into measurable business impact, explains why board-level resistance creates organizational AI imposter syndrome, and demonstrates how affiliate marketers can build competitive advantage through ethical implementation and agile adoption.


Talking Points Include:

Why AI projects fail without frameworks – how creating AI champion groups, weekly strategy meetings, and clear codes of conduct transforms random tool adoption into systematic competitive advantage

The ethics gap that threatens customer trust – why transparency, attribution clarity, and responsible governance must be designed into affiliate programs before regulation forces it

Strategic agility over early adoption – how building continuous learning and due diligence into your operations prepares you for agentic AI and quantum computing without burning out your team


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • The exact prompt engineering techniques that teach AI your brand voice without requiring technical skills or expensive custom models
  • Why Circle and Mighty Networks platforms fail for community building while simple weekly Zoom calls succeed, and how this same principle applies to AI tool selection
  • The six-month AI implementation roadmap Katie uses with clients that balances quick wins with sustainable capability building
  • How affiliate marketers should approach AI differently than other marketing channels because of the trust dynamics and partnership relationships at stake
  • Why China leads in AI patents, Europe leads in ethical frameworks, and what that geopolitical split means for international affiliate programs
  • The specific metrics beyond sales that reveal whether your AI adoption creates genuine business value or just impressive-looking dashboards


Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[12:35] Why you don't need technical skills for AI success, and the hospitality management principles that make AI adoption feel natural instead of overwhelming

[18:51] The reality check on organizational AI maturity: why even brands with impressive case studies struggle with board-level adoption and what that reveals about implementation gaps

[27:42] Ethical AI requirements for affiliate marketing specifically, including transparency obligations, attribution clarity, and avoiding black-box decisioning that erodes partner trust

[34:20] Katie's final advice for marketers who haven't started their AI journey: why strategic agility matters more than early adoption, and how to build frameworks that prepare you for what comes next


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The Power of Building Community Around your Affiliate Program20 Nov 202500:31:59

If your affiliate program has hundreds of inactive partners gathering dust, this episode reveals exactly how to bring them back. Alex Hitt, an affiliate marketer who built thriving communities of hundreds of active members, shares the hotel management principles he uses to create loyalty that goes far beyond commission payments. Lee-Ann and Alex discuss why most programs accidentally kill engagement, how to scale personalisation without burning out, and why one 30-minute weekly call does more for retention than any email campaign.


Talking Points Include:

  • The hospitality industry secret that made one hotel number one in the world – and how offering affiliates something valuable for free at exactly the right moment transforms transactional relationships into genuine partnerships
  • Why community platforms often fail but weekly Zoom calls succeed – where real engagement actually happens and how to structure drop-in events that affiliates want to attend
  • The white-glove onboarding process that keeps new affiliates active – from putting the calendar invite directly in their hand to following up before their first event


Listen to Find Out More About:

  • Why Alex refuses most one-on-one meeting requests and what he offers instead that closes more deals with less pressure
  • The exact metrics Alex tracks to identify super-inviters versus super-producers in his community (and why these are two different people)
  • How to enforce group chat boundaries without alienating members when conversations drift into birthday wishes and grocery shopping updates
  • The six critical mistakes that kill affiliate communities before they launch, and how to plan strategically before investing time and resources
  • Why getting each affiliate to refer just 1.1 other people creates exponential program growth over time
  • How to scale personalization by using mass email for announcements while reserving WhatsApp, LinkedIn, and Facebook for genuine relationship building


Key Segments of This Podcast and Where You Can Tune In to Go Direct:

[01:15] How getting laid off from a dream hotel job in Hawaii on day one forced Alex into entrepreneurship and eventually affiliate marketing

[18:55] The efficiency math explained: one 30-minute Zoom call with 50 people versus trying to schedule 50 separate one-on-one meetings

[27:00] What Alex tracks to measure community health beyond sales: last login time, external business growth, and engagement patterns


Huge thanks to Alex Hitt for sharing his community-building strategies with us. If this episode sparked ideas for transforming your own affiliate program, subscribe to the Affiliate Marketing Podcast so you never miss practical insights like these. Share this episode with another affiliate manager struggling with retention, and let's raise the standard for how we treat our partners.


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Beyond Google: Navigating the Multi-Channel Search Revolution13 Nov 202500:31:13

In this episode of the Affiliate Marketing Podcast, Lee-Ann Johnstone sits down with search industry veteran Colin Jeavons to unpack one of the most significant shifts in digital commerce since Google's CPC revolution. 

With 25% of global search queries now bypassing Google in favour of AI-powered answer engines, affiliate managers and publishers face a crossroads: adapt to emerging channels or risk becoming obsolete. Colin, whose career spans from the Yellow Pages era through to building semantic search technology for defence and intelligence, brings rare historical perspective on what's actually changing—and what isn't. 

This episode is essential listening for affiliate managers questioning their channel strategy, publishers wondering if SEO is dead, and any e-commerce brand trying to understand where consumer discovery is headed.


Talking points include:

  • From Yellow Pages to Answer Engines: How search has evolved from browser distribution monopolies to AI-driven discovery, and why Google's 2002 business model is facing its BlackBerry moment.
  • The 75/25 Rule: Why traditional search still commands three-quarters of queries despite rapid AI adoption, and how to balance legacy channels with emerging opportunities.

Beyond Traditional Affiliates: How CPA models are expanding into apps, creators, influencers, and AI search—creating entirely new verticals for performance marketing.


Listen to find out more about: 

  • How browser distribution, not search quality, created Google's monopoly—and why that same moat is now crumbling.
  • The specific verticals where CPA commerce is experiencing explosive growth: apps, creators, influencers, and AI search.
  • The "fail fast" philosophy that's kept Colin relevant through 25 years of continuous technological disruption.


Key segments of this podcast and where you can tune in to go direct: 

[11:45] The case for not abandoning traditional search.

[13:57] The 10-month revolution: how AI answer engines captured 25% of search volume at unprecedented speed.

[29:13] Colin's advice for publishers and affiliate managers: always ask for help and don't fear failure.


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Why Human-Centred Marketing Beats Every Algorithm06 Nov 202500:27:58

In this episode, Lee-Ann Johnstone sits down with Dennis Yu, CEO of BlitzMetrics and co-author of bestselling books on Facebook and TikTok advertising. With a billion dollars spent on social ads and clients including: Nike, Starbucks, and the Golden State Warriors, Dennis brings battle-tested insights on what actually works when technology threatens to commoditise every tactic. 

This conversation is essential listening for affiliate managers navigating the tension between bringing capabilities in-house and maintaining profitable partnerships, as well as performance marketers seeking sustainable competitive advantages in an AI-saturated marketplace.


Talking points include:

  • User-Generated Content as Affiliate Strategy: Why authentic customer content outperforms professional creative and how to activate non-traditional affiliates
  • The Conversion API Advantage: How brands controlling conversion data can outperform traditional affiliates in paid social campaigns
  • Relationship-Driven Marketing in an AI World: Why genuine connections represent the only defensible moat against algorithmic competition


Listen to find out more about:

  • How to identify and activate non-traditional affiliates from your existing customer base who create more authentic content than professional marketers
  • Why controlling conversion data through proper API implementation gives brands a decisive advantage over traditional affiliates in paid social campaigns
  • What Dennis learned spending a billion dollars on social advertising for brands like Nike, Starbucks, and the Golden State Warriors


Key segments of this podcast and where you can tune in to go direct:

  • [01:30] Dennis Yu's background: From Yahoo! search engine engineer to spending a billion dollars on Facebook ads
  • [06:38] Why user-generated content from actual customers outperforms traditional influencer marketing
  • [14:00] The uncomfortable truth about affiliate margins as AI and algorithms become more sophisticated


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Affiliate Story: From Side Hustle to Global Publisher Platform30 Oct 202500:32:32

What happens when passion meets persistence in affiliate marketing? 

George Sullivan turned repeated program rejections into fuel for building The Sole Supplier—a content-first publisher that now drives millions in sales across Europe's biggest fashion retailers. In this candid conversation with host Lee-Ann Johnstone, George reveals the brutal early days of building an affiliate business, the moment everything changed, and why the industry's future belongs to publishers who can make people feel something.

This episode is essential listening for affiliate managers who want to understand what life looks like on the other side of the partnership—and for aspiring publishers who need proof that starting with nothing but conviction can lead somewhere extraordinary.


Talking points include: 

  • The psychological impact of program rejections on early-stage publishers (and how managers can turn gatekeeping into guidance)
  • Why putting a human face to your brand remains the most powerful growth lever in an AI-saturated landscape
  • The shift from siloed marketing departments to integrated teams—and what it means for partnership budgets


Listen to find out more about: 

  • Why George believes purely transactional affiliate models face existential risk from AI—and where the sustainable opportunity lies
  • The specific moment when The Sole Supplier's revenue scaled beyond George's recruitment salary (and why he still waited to quit)
  • How treating affiliate managers as friends rather than vendors creates compounding advantages over time


Key segments of this podcast and where you can tune in to go direct: 

[03:03] The backstory: from ten failed jobs to founding The Sole Supplier at 22

[13:28] The post-COVID shift that killed top-of-funnel budgets—and why brands are reversing course now

[26:10] The five things every affiliate manager needs to hear about building genuine partnerships


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Performance with Purpose: The Next Era of Affiliate Marketing23 Oct 202500:35:30

In this essential episode, we sit down with Florin Simovici, CEO of TrafficManager and author of the industry's most comprehensive guide to building and managing affiliate programs. With 15 years of experience across multiple verticals—from iGaming to e-commerce—Florin shares the hard-won lessons that separate scaling programs from struggling ones.


Florin pulls back the curtain on what actually drives sustainable growth, revealing why most networks fail before they even begin and how the industry's smartest operators are positioning themselves for the seismic shifts ahead. 


Whether you're managing your first program or your fiftieth, this episode will challenge your assumptions and equip you with actionable strategies to thrive in an increasingly competitive market.


Talking points include: 

  • Why 80% of your revenue comes from just 20% of your affiliates—and how to structure your team accordingly
  • The critical onboarding mistakes that doom new networks from day one
  • How AI is fundamentally reshaping affiliate marketing (and why you need to start preparing now)


Listen to find out more about: 

  • How to identify and protect the core affiliates who drive your network's growth
  • The automation tools that free affiliate managers from repetitive tasks so they can focus on relationships
  • The emerging "waves" in affiliate marketing—and how to position yourself to ride them rather than get swept away


Key segments of this podcast and where you can tune in to go direct: 

[00:52] Background on TrafficManager and Florin's journey from affiliate to network owner to SaaS provider

[02:00] The story behind writing a 519-page book on affiliate program management (without AI assistance)

[30:52] Final advice for affiliates: Give up the ego and communicate your needs


Want to dive deeper into Florin's proven strategies? His comprehensive guide covers everything from post-back integration to fraud prevention to affiliate relationship management. Purchase How to Build and Manage an Affiliate Program or Network here.


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The Secret Formula to High-Impact Content16 Oct 202500:29:14

What if everything you've been taught about promotional content is backwards?

In this explosive Season 23 opener, host Lee-Ann Johnstone welcomes Saurabh Singh, co-founder and CEO of Flickstree and Zanopy AI, who drops a truth bomb that's making affiliate managers and content creators rethink their entire strategy: for every promotional post you publish, you should be creating six educational ones. Yes, you read that right—six to one. This isn't armchair theory. Saurabh has studied hundreds of thousands of successful brands worldwide, built an AI platform that's produced 47,000 videos this year, and personally grew an Instagram account from zero to 40,000 engaged followers in under 12 months using this exact formula.

If you're an affiliate manager battling with partners over content guidelines, a creator watching your conversion rates flatline, or a brand drowning in a sea of AI-generated noise wondering why nothing's sticking, this episode hands you a data-backed blueprint that flips conventional wisdom on its head.

The kicker? Most brands are doing the complete opposite—and wondering why their audience keeps scrolling past. Lee-Ann and Saurabh break down why content has become the only way to build trust in digital commerce, which content hooks make people stop mid-scroll, and how AI tools are levelling the playing field for marketers who can't afford £300-per-video agencies. Buckle up—this one's a game-changer.


Talking points include: 

  • The 1:6 Formula: Why posting six educational pieces for every one promotional post outperforms traditional sales-focused content.
  • Trust Through Content: How content has become the only reliable way to build customer trust in an era where buyers never see you face-to-face.
  • AI as Amplifier: Using artificial intelligence to scale content creation without sacrificing authenticity or breaking the budget.


Listen to find out more about: 

  • How to structure landing pages that increase conversion rates by keeping visitors engaged for 8-10 minutes before sending them to brand pages.
  • Why building your own community protects against algorithm changes and platform account suspensions.
  • The specific content types that consistently go viral across industries (and which promotional content belongs in Stories, not main feeds).


Key segments of this podcast and where you can tune in to go direct: 

[05:27] Breaking down the secret 1:6 content formula with real-world examples.

[09:20] Content hooks that stop scrolling: myths, facts, secrets, and step-by-step guides.

[26:19] Rapid-fire insights: Will AI outperform human content? 


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The Partnership Playbook: What This Season Taught Us09 Oct 202500:41:36

After eleven episodes dissecting partnership dynamics from every conceivable angle, this season finale doesn't just recap — it crystallises the precise tactical moves separating forgettable affiliate relationships from decade-spanning strategic alliances.

Industry veterans have shared frameworks that actually work in the trenches, not theoretical models that collapse under real-world pressure. Their insights reveal how data transparency reshapes power dynamics, why treating affiliates as vendors guarantees eventual churn, and the micro-moments that compound into sustainable competitive advantage.


Who should listen to this episode?

This wrap-up serves affiliate managers tired of surface-level networking advice and operators questioning why their partnership retention resembles a leaky bucket.

If you've built programs that plateau after initial wins, or wonder why competitors maintain relationships you can't seem to sustain, these consolidated lessons expose what's missing from your approach. Program directors evaluating their 2026 strategy will find tactical adjustments that don't require massive budget increases — just sharper execution on overlooked fundamentals that compound over time.


Talking points include: 

  • Data as the New Trust Currency: Why visibility into metrics, transparent tracking systems, and real-time reporting have evolved from nice-to-have features into non-negotiable foundations for building sustainable affiliate partnerships that withstand market volatility.
  • From Vendor to Strategic Partner: The mindset shift required to transform transactional affiliate relationships into co-marketing alliances where both parties actively contribute to strategic planning rather than executing predefined promotional calendars.
  • The Retention Blueprint: How leading operators moved beyond acquisition metrics to build comprehensive player lifecycle strategies, recognising that understanding traffic source quality determines long-term profitability more than initial conversion rates.


Listen to find out more about: 

  • How Leanna Klyne's "five P's" flywheel transforms social media profiles into partner acquisition engines that consistently attract aligned affiliates without cold outreach.
  • Why Tero Paivarinta's approach to nurturing smaller, high-growth affiliates delivers better long-term results than chasing established "whale" partners who demand disproportionate attention
  • The specific tactical adjustments affiliate managers can implement within existing programs to shift from transactional relationships toward the strategic partnerships that weather market changes and platform policy shifts


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The Five Step Flywheel for Growing a Successful Partnership02 Oct 202500:41:43

Building successful affiliate partnerships isn't just about sending cold emails and hoping for responses. In this episode, Lee-Ann sits down with Leanna Klyne, Affiverse's Head of Agency and an 18-year veteran of affiliate marketing, to reveal the exact five-step framework their agency uses to build lasting partnerships that actually convert. 


This isn't theory—it's the battle-tested system they use daily to connect brands with high-performing affiliates, and they're sharing it all, from LinkedIn profile optimisation to why your first email line is make-or-break.


Talking points include:

  • The five P's flywheel: Profile, Pitch, Publish, Productise, and Partnerships—and why each stage builds on the last.
  • Why 120+ daily emails mean your cold outreach needs to hook affiliates in the first line or get deleted.
  • How to segment onboarding experiences by affiliate type and generation (Gen Alpha, Gen Z, and Millennials don't communicate the same way).


Listen to find out more about: 

  • The exact tools Affiverse uses in their agency (hint: reach out on LinkedIn for the "MoFo tools list")
  • Why Leanna keeps partners in her database for years, and how one four-year-old relationship just delivered results on a new program
  • The Nike approach to becoming an industry voice: just do it, and post consistently


Key segments of this podcast and where you can tune in to go direct: 

[13:25] The cold email problem: breaking through 120+ daily emails and why your first line is everything

[19:48] How to become a trusted industry voice through authentic publishing and thought leadership

[38:33] The one action to start today if you want to attract affiliates instead of chasing them


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Data Partnerships: A Blueprint for Affiliate Program Success25 Sep 202500:35:11

Get ready for an insightful conversation about the evolution of affiliate marketing from the operator perspective to the affiliate side. Tero Paivarinta, Business Development Lead at humbl.ai joins host Lee-Ann Johnstone to share his fascinating journey from iGaming customer support in 2006 to becoming a key figure in affiliate relationship management. With nearly two decades of industry experience, Tero reveals how data transparency is revolutionising partnerships and why authentic relationships remain the cornerstone of successful affiliate programs.


Talking points include:

  • How humbl.ai's data platform is cutting through industry misinformation by providing accurate SEO and PPC insights 
  • Why building personal relationships with affiliates goes far beyond business transactions
  • The shift from chasing big-name affiliates to identifying and nurturing smaller, high-growth partners


Listen to find out more about: 

  • How to identify high-growth small affiliates using month-on-month data analysis
  • Why paying affiliates early can accelerate partnership growth and loyalty
  • Tero's upcoming platform developments that will further revolutionise affiliate marketing insights


Key segments of this podcast and where you can tune in to go direct: 

[02:17] Tero's iGaming journey from 2006 and first glimpse into affiliate marketing

[23:00] Finding quality affiliates: why the ones who find you aren't always the best

[28:08] A round-up of top tips shared


Our thanks go to Mate Affiliates as this season's sponsor. Would you like to talk about sponsoring our podcast, or gaining a brand mention? Take a look here.


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Creating High-Value Connections: Relationship Mastery for Performance Marketers18 Sep 202500:34:28

From self-proclaimed "software engineer introvert" to confident industry connector, Julia Draghici, Co-Founder & CEO of CPV Lab and CPV ONE, has mastered the art of turning authentic relationships into business growth. 


In this candid conversation with host Lee-Ann Johnstone, Julia reveals how she transformed from someone who believed "building good software and having good customer support would be enough" into a partnership-driven entrepreneur whose business thrives on genuine connections. Through her journey from nervously walking conference floors to building lasting friendships that generate multiple client referrals, Julia demonstrates that the most powerful marketing tool isn't technology—it's the human ability to help first, ask later, and treat partnerships like marriages rather than transactions.


Talking points include: 

  • How Julia overcame her introverted nature at industry conferences using simple conversation starters like "what do you do?" to build meaningful business relationships.
  • The philosophy of "give first, ask later" and why small gestures like LinkedIn shares, mentions, and introductions create more lasting impact than big sponsorships.
  • Why treating partnerships like marriages—with long-term commitment and mutual investment—generates sustainable competitive advantages in performance marketing.


Listen to find out more about: 

  • The specific red flags Julia watches for in potential partnerships and why asking "what do I get out of it?" in early conversations signals poor partnership potential.
  • How CPV Lab's customer support reveals why humans still matter in an AI-driven world, with "I want to talk with an agent" being their most frequent chatbot query.
  • The emerging partnership opportunities between content creators and affiliate managers that represent new collaboration models in performance marketing.


Key segments of this podcast and where you can tune in to go direct: 

[08:44] Julia's first conference networking experience and overcoming introvert challenges

[15:45] The Joey Babineau partnership case study and building lasting business friendships

[26:52] Rapid-fire relationship advice including partnership red flags and trust-building strategies


Our thanks go to Mate Affiliates as this season's sponsor. Would you like to talk about sponsoring our podcast, or gaining a brand mention? Take a look here.


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Lessons from Both Sides: Building Stronger Affiliate Relationships 11 Sep 202500:27:17

This week, Lee-Ann Johnstone welcomes Alanas Ivšinas, iGaming Affiliate Marketing Expert, to the Affiliate Marketing Podcast for an insightful deep-dive into what truly makes partnerships thrive in one of the most competitive sectors of affiliate marketing. 

With over a decade of experience working across both sides of the table - from affiliate networks to major operators like GG Media Group - Alanas brings a rare perspective on deal-making, negotiation psychology, and the art of building lasting commercial relationships. 

Whether you're struggling with partner retention, looking to structure better deals, or want to understand how industry veterans navigate complex negotiations, this episode delivers actionable wisdom from someone who's seen it all. Essential listening for affiliate managers, network professionals, and anyone serious about elevating their partnership game.


Talking points include: 

  • The psychology of win-win deal-making and why most partnerships fail before they start.
  • Real world case studies of deals gone wrong and the expensive lessons learned.
  • How Google updates and AI are reshaping affiliate relationship strategies.


Listen to find out more about: 

  • Why the "thin line between bluff and lie" can make or break your reputation in affiliate marketing.
  • The specific deal structure that cost one major partnership hundreds of thousands in negative ROI.
  • How industry veterans are adapting their partnership strategies for an AI-dominated search landscape.


Key segments of this podcast and where you can tune in to go direct: 

[05:40] The essential elements that separate successful partnerships from costly failures.

[10:20] A detailed breakdown of a streaming deal gone wrong and the expensive lessons learned

[21:52] Industry trends including Google updates, AI impact, and what's coming next for affiliate partnerships.

Our thanks go to Mate Affiliates as this season's sponsor. Would you like to talk about sponsoring our podcast, or gaining a brand mention? Take a look here.

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Partners, Not Just Payouts: What Really Makes Partnerships Work 04 Sep 202500:33:14

This week, Lee-Ann Johnstone sits down with Paul Puolakka, CMO of Mr. Gamble, who brings a rare dual perspective to affiliate marketing having worked extensively on both the operator and affiliate sides. Fresh from burnout in telecoms to becoming one of iGaming's most respected voices, Paul shares unfiltered insights on what separates thriving partnerships from those that crash and burn. 

This isn't your typical "build trust and communicate" advice—Paul digs into the tactical realities of partnership management, from handling payment delays to spotting red flags before they destroy relationships. 

Whether you're an affiliate manager struggling to retain top partners or an affiliate wondering why your best partnerships keep falling apart, this episode delivers the hard-won wisdom you need to build partnerships that actually last.


Talking points include:

  • Why ownership and transparency beat over-promising every time—and how to implement this practically.
  • The critical metrics affiliates track that operators often ignore (and why this knowledge gap kills partnerships).
  • Why face-to-face meetings remain irreplaceable in an increasingly digital industry.


Listen to find out more about:

  • How to spot the early warning signs that a promising partnership is about to collapse.
  • Why affiliate managers need to understand their entire conversion funnel, not just their own department.
  • The three key factors that make affiliates choose to stick with operators long-term.


Key segments of this podcast and where you can tune in to go direct: 

[05:04] The trust-breakers: What instantly destroys affiliate partnerships and why shaving commissions is relationship suicide.

[18:04] The click paradox: Why operators obsess over FTDs but ignore what happens after affiliates deliver quality traffic.

[24:06] The founder factor: How small operators with hands-on leadership often outperform larger corporate machines.


Our thanks go to Mate Affiliates as this season's sponsor. Would you like to talk about sponsoring our podcast, or gaining a brand mention? Take a look here.

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Trust, Strategy, and Teamwork: The Foundations of Affiliate Success28 Aug 202500:37:33

From the "wild west" days of online sports betting to today's heavily regulated landscape, few have witnessed the industry's transformation like Dimitry Voelkle. Host of the Affiliate Marketing Podcast, Lee-Ann Johnstone is joined by Dimitry, Founder of Zelda Consulting and one of the original architects behind Tipico, Germany's first major sportsbook. 

In this fascinating episode, Dimitry shares hard-won insights on building trust-based partnerships that survive decades of industry upheaval, revealing why the fundamentals of relationship building matter now more than ever.


Talking points include:

  • How to build lasting trust with partners when starting with nothing - including Dimitry's bold approach to securing enterprise deals.
  • Why treating failure as "death by a thousand cuts" creates stronger partnerships than avoiding mistakes altogether.
  • The evolution from unregulated "wild west" betting to today's compliance-heavy environment and what it means for affiliate relationships.


Listen to find out more about:

  • The four pillars of partnership trust and how to implement them systematically in your affiliate program, from creating feedback loops to thinking beyond short-term commercial gains.
  • Why affiliate managers "own" relationships and what this means for operator retention strategies, including how to protect your business when key relationship holders leave your company.
  • How the shift from 20-person industry events to 8,000-attendee conferences changes relationship dynamics and why the personal touch becomes even more valuable in crowded markets.


Key segments of this podcast and where you can tune in to go direct: 

[05:40] The “wild west” origins of online sports betting and what operators could offer in the early 2000s before regulation changed everything

[24:00] Handling million-dollar mistakes: When decimal point errors go wrong and trust gets tested in high-pressure situations.

[33:20] Why partnership skills become more crucial as competition intensifies.


Our thanks go to Mate Affiliates as this season's sponsor. Would you like to talk about sponsoring our podcast, or gaining a brand mention? Take a look here.

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Why Retention Strategies Support Better Partnership Management 21 Aug 202500:38:46

What if everything you think you know about affiliate partnership management is actually costing you millions in untapped revenue? 

In this eye-opening episode, host Lee-Ann Johnstone sits down with Gali Hartuv, CEO and co-founder of WarriorLab, to unpack why treating your affiliate partners like VIP players could be the game-changing strategy your program needs. 

From a jaw-dropping case study that delivered 40% growth in 12 months to practical frameworks for building emotional equity with partners, this conversation challenges everything you think you know about affiliate relationship management. Whether you're managing a program with 50 affiliates or 5,000, the insights shared here will fundamentally shift how you approach partnership retention and development.


Talking points include:

  • Why the biggest brands struggle with partnership agility while smaller operators lack long-term infrastructure.
  • The psychology behind VIP mentality and how it applies to high-value affiliate relationships.
  • How one North American operator discovered they had 3,500 true VIPs hiding among 94,000 misclassified players.


Listen to find out more about:

  • The eight-step framework for building partnership retention programs that mirror VIP player strategies.
  • Why programmatic marketing is becoming essential as SEO struggles post-Google updates.
  • How predictive analytics can prevent affiliate churn before it happens.


Key segments of this podcast and where you can tune in to go direct: 

[06:15] Large vs small operator partnership approaches and common mistakes

[22:52] The dramatic case study: From 94,000 "VIPs" to sustainable growth

[28:00] Eight actionable steps for building emotional equity in affiliate partnerships


Our thanks go to Mate Affiliates as this season's sponsor. Would you like to talk about sponsoring our podcast, or gaining a brand mention? Take a look here.

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How Smart Brand Owners Win Big With The Right Affiliate Moves14 Aug 202500:40:18

Get ready for an absolute masterclass in partnership building! This week, host Lee-Ann Johnstone sits down with industry legend Moshe Adir, Founder of Vegas Kings and one of the most successful agency owners in the iGaming space. With decades of experience spanning from the early days of DOS programming to building multi-million pound partnerships, Moshe shares the hard-won lessons that separate successful long-term partnerships from quick-burn transactional relationships. This isn't your typical business chat – it's raw, honest insights from someone who's been there since the internet's first browser and has the battle scars to prove it.


Talking points include:

  • Why being "the pen AND the ink" for your clients creates partnerships that last decades, not months.
  • The brutal truth about when to walk away from lucrative deals that don't align with your values.
  • How staying boutique can actually make you more profitable than scaling to hundreds of employees.


Listen to find out more about:

  • The exact moment Moshe knew he'd found his calling (involving a DOS programming book in the South African army)
  • Why WhatsApp has become his most critical business tool for managing global partnerships
  • His controversial take on why "just buy traffic and get rich" is the most dangerous myth in affiliate marketing


Key segments of this podcast and where you can tune in to go direct: 

[08:44] The North Star principle for building partnerships that last decades

[24:13] The CEO stepping-down story that will change how you view leadership

[30:40] Rapid-fire partnership wisdom and industry myth-busting


Our thanks go to Mate Affiliates as this season's sponsor. Would you like to talk about sponsoring our podcast, or gaining a brand mention? Take a look here.

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The Power of Walking a Mile in Your Affiliate’s Shoes: Lessons for Managers07 Aug 202500:34:43

Welcome to this week's Affiliate Marketing Podcast with host Lee-Ann Johnstone, where we explore how to build successful partnerships in affiliate marketing. This episode features some real talk from Stefan Muehlbauer, CEO of Affpal Consulting and affjobs.com, a seasoned industry veteran with 15+ years of experience who has transformed from running affiliate programs to becoming one of the industry's most sought-after recruiters and consultants. Stefan shares his unconventional journey from selling insurance to building a recruitment empire through the power of personal relationships and strategic giving.


Talking points include:

  • The strategic value of attending 25+ industry conferences annually for networking
  • How giving without expectation for 12 years built Stefan's recruitment business overnight
  • Why affiliate managers should experience media buying themselves to understand scaling challenges


Listen to find out more about:

  • How Stefan accidentally built a recruitment empire by placing 50+ people in jobs for free
  • The specific AI tool Stefan recommends every affiliate marketer should experiment with right now
  • His rapid-fire insights on the most overrated trend and underrated opportunity in affiliate marketing today


Key segments of this podcast and where you can tune in to go direct: 

[05:17] The secret sauce of relationship building - genuine interest over manipulation

[25:08] The biggest mistake affiliate managers make - focusing only on whale affiliates

[29:40] Rapid fire round: Most overrated trends and underrated opportunities in affiliate marketing


Our thanks go to Mate Affiliates as this season's sponsor. Would you like to talk about sponsoring our podcast, or gaining a brand mention? Take a look here.

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