Christian, John Luke, and Luke explain their impressions of Romans 10, and they agree that while believing in Jesus is essential, that belief should also make itself evident by one’s behavior and personal transformation. Christian admits to struggling with believing in Jesus as a teenager, while his life didn’t reflect a submission to the Gospel at that point in his life. John Luke cautions against generalizing other people’s faith based on a single point in time, since a relationship with God takes time and discipline to develop. In this episode: Romans 10; James 2, verse 19 This episode of 4:8 Men is sponsored by: https://drinkag1.com/huff — Get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 & 5 FREE AG1 travel packs with your first purchase! https://www.covenanteyes.com/huff — Try Covenant Eyes FREE for 30 days -

Christian, John Luke, Jeffrey, Luke, Parker and Reeves work their way through the rest of Romans 9, exploring difficult ideas like the sovereignty of God and the existence of free will. Jeffrey is convicted by Paul’s heart for the salvation of others and the desperation with which he cared about sharing Jesus. Reeves found his own way to wrap his brain around the concept of God’s will versus his own will, and Christian emphasizes the need for humility in our faith, rather than the arrogance that could so easily come with knowing we’re saved. In this episode: Romans 9, 2 Peter 3, verse 15; Romans 8, verse 28; Romans 11, verses 15-16; Jeremiah 18; Exodus 34, verses 10-14; Deuteronomy 5, verse 22; Genesis 3 This episode of 4:8 Men is sponsored by: https://www.covenanteyes.com/huff — Try Covenant Eyes FREE for 30 days https://drinkag1.com/huff — Get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 & 5 FREE AG1 travel packs with your first purchase! -

Christian invites Willie and John Luke Robertson, as well as Duck Commander COO Jeffrey Kent, to explore the deep spiritual well of the book of Romans. Willie pulls several great pieces of wisdom from his most recent book, “Gospeler,” including how to use your individual gifts to reach people for the Lord that are otherwise unreachable. Jeffrey paints a vivid picture of the history of Rome as an empire and how it affected the history of the entire world, even Jesus’ time on earth. Christian and John Luke seek answers about the substance of the Gospel and how our pasts don’t necessarily have to define our futures.

 

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Christian, John Luke, Reeves, Parker and Luke delve into how to build a real relationship with God, where our modern churches could use improvement, and what to do with when we’re ashamed of ourselves. John Luke points out that churches today have too much separation between the scientific teachings of today and how it all fits into a biblical worldview. Christian shares a clever quote about discipleship in the modern era, and the guys discuss their own methods for forgiving themselves, embracing God’s mercy and moving past shame and self-doubt.

 

In this episode: 1 John 3, verse 16

Christian, John Luke, Jacob, Parker, Reeves and Luke dive into tough spiritual questions about lust, finding Godly love, and leaving past mistakes behind. Each of the guys gives their favorite parable and what they have learned from them, as well as gives advice based on their own success and failures when it comes to avoiding lustful thoughts and situations. Christian points out that there’s a difference between avoiding sin in the moment versus lingering in that moment, and Jacob urges men to consider carefully how they treat and think about God’s daughters.
 

In this episode: 1 Timothy 6, verse 6; 1 Corinthians 6, verses 18-20

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Christian, John Luke, Jacob, Parker, Reeves and Luke answer the thought provoking spiritual questions submitted by listeners. Jacob urges people who are struggling with restlessness or anxiety to get out there and let God speak to them through others. Luke provides an interesting historical fact to add context to Jesus’ resurrection, and Reeves looks back at the times in his past where he didn’t know where he belonged. John Luke and Christian point out that everyone shares a purpose in the Lord, even though everyone has their own individual calling as well. 

In this episode: Psalm 139, verses 23-24; Mark 9, verses 20-25; Luke 24, verses 5-7; Genesis 1, verse 27

 

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Christian, John Luke, Jacob and Parker consider the often thorny subject of confessing our sins to God and one another. The guys agree that being honest with your circle about what you’re struggling with is the key to truly repenting and changing. Reeves points out that the root word for forgiveness and healing are the same and often used interchangeably in some ancient texts. John Luke explores the way some prayers of the righteous seem to be answered and others don’t. 

In this episode: James 5, verses 13-20 

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Christian joins Jacob, Parker, and Luke for a discussion about personal integrity, discernment when making commitments, and using our blessings for the Lord’s glory. Christian points out that it’s important to treat promises made with gravity and seriousness, and the guys explore the ways one can use their own resources to further God’s Kingdom. Luke posits that serving the Lord can bring about contentment and joy in our lives. 

In this episode: James 5, verses 1-12

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Christian is joined by his brother-in-law Jacob for the first time, as well as Reeves, Parker, and Luke to continue their study of James. Reeves gets real about his own struggles and how he started to overcome them when he began trusting in God’s plan. Jacob, Parker, and Luke discuss the difficulty of adapting to God’s plan when it supersedes human wisdom, and Christian confronts his own struggle with frustration at people who are aggressively self-righteous on social media.

 

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Christian, John Luke, Reeves and Luke study the best ways to submit to God while resisting Satan and how sometimes that can lead to hard times. John Luke gives insight into how we cannot escape our culture, but we can learn to function within it as God’s people. Christian and Reeves suggest ways to draw nearer to the Lord such as reading, worship and simple, heartfelt prayers. Luke suggests that submitting to God and resisting temptation isn’t an instantaneous thing, but a process of growth and change. Reeves comes up with a new tattoo idea!

In this episode: James 4, verses 1-10; Romans 12, verse 9; Colossians 3, verse 5; Job 2, verse 9; Genesis 4, verse 7; Isaiah 57, verse 15; Luke 18, verses 9-14

 

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Christian, Reeves, Parker and Luke explore the difference between Godly wisdom and earthly wisdom and how to tell the difference. Christian challenges those who love Jesus to do whatever it takes to rid their lives of the serious but sneaky sins of jealousy and selfishness. Parker and Reeves point out the importance of service to God’s Kingdom and how it often leads to growth and obedience. Luke shares several scriptures that highlight the need for wisdom in your daily life and walk with Jesus.

In this episode: James 3, verses 13-18; James 1, verse 5; Galatians 5, verses 19-21; Proverbs 2, verses 1-11; 2 Chronicles 1, verses 8-10; Ecclesiastes 7, verse 25

 

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Christian, John Luke, Parker, Reeves and Luke tackle the difficult subject of the power of our words and how we wield them. Luke makes the point that all change takes time and encourages patience as God sanctifies the hearts of those who love Him. Christian comes up with an amusing new term for bad language that John Luke wants to adopt. The guys agree that putting good into your mind produces good results from the heart.

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In this episode: James 3, verses 1-18; Matthew 18, verse 6; Romans 14, verse 21

 

Christian, Luke, and John Luke are joined by Pastor Earl McClellan of Shoreline City Church in Dallas, Texas, to explore the controversial concepts Paul presents in the latter half of Romans 8. Christian offers a relatable example of how to understand the argument of predestination and free will, and Earl shares a stunning revelation about the deceptive reality of Christian persecution in America. John Luke discusses the importance of context when studying the Bible, and Earl offers guidance on the role of the Holy Spirit in our daily lives. In this episode: Romans 8, verses 18-39; Isaiah 11, verse 6; Philippians 4, verses 5-9; Psalm 44, verse 22 This episode the 4:8 Men is sponsored by: https://drinkag1.com/huff — Get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 & 5 FREE AG1 travel packs with your first purchase! https://www.covenanteyes.com/huff — Try Covenant Eyes FREE for 30 days -

Christian, John Luke, Parker, Reeves and Luke dive into James’ challenge to believers to supplement and nourish their faith with good works. Christian points out the way we overuse the phrase “I’ll pray for you,” and that in addition to prayer, followers of Jesus should get to the heart of why those prayers are needed. The guys agree that if one truly surrenders their life to God, charity and generosity will surely follow.
 

In this episode: James 2, verses 14-26

Christian, John Luke, Parker, Reeves, and Luke discuss the unconscious prejudices we display every day and how they fit into our walk with the Lord. Christian points out that often committing what people think of as “little” sins can lead to much worse over time, and the guys ponder if giving money to people on the street is helping them, enabling them, or just doing what God has called us to do. 

 

In this episode: James 2, verses 1-13

 

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Christian and the guys explore the hard-hitting concepts in the book of James, including learning to leash your anger and speech to make them obedient to God’s will. The guys ponder the idea of suffering for their faith and learning to grow from that same suffering. Christian is impressed by the directness of James and finds it to be the perfect book to speak to men in particular about their natural urges, habits, and tendencies.  

 

In this episode James 1, verses 19-27

 

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Welcome to Season 5 of 4:8 Men! This season Christian will be joined by men from his personal Bible study as they go through the book of James. As the guys dive into the Word they'll discuss how they deal with tough things in life, whether it's okay to doubt God, the strong pull of temptation and desire. They'll also explore the power of our words over others, our family and ourselves, and the slippery slope of that "amazing" TV show — should Christians be watching a series like "Game of Thrones?" 

 

Joining Christian in this episode are Parker, Luke and Reeves. They're studying James 1:1-18.

 

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Christian chats with head cameraman of Duck Commander and Buck Commander Jordan Summitt about marrying his high-school sweetheart, how he met Willie Robertson, and how his faith has evolved over nearly two decades working for the Robertson family. Christian and Jordan discuss the complexities of leading your family while trusting God to lead you and cultivating an attitude of thankfulness every day of your life. Jordan reveals a near-death experience that shook him into delving deeper into his faith and gives some advice to parents with younger children.

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Christian digs into the origin story of Justin Martin of “Duck Dynasty” with the man himself! Martin reveals how he met Willie and ended up working for him nearly 15 years ago. Martin recounts his journey from self-proclaimed “heathen” to a husband, father, and man of God. Christian and Martin discuss what they’ve learned so far about how to communicate with their spouses, co-workers, and children. Martin, a biologist by degree, likens faith to wildlife management in that they both take time, humility and patience.

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Christian chats with Mikado Hinson, director of player development for Texas A&M’s football team. Christian hears Mikado’s story of coming to know Jesus, then how he came to love Jesus. They explore Mikado’s mission to mentor and disciple young athletes who will go on to impact their families, communities, and the kingdom of God. Mikado gives advice on learning how to enjoy our relationship with the Lord instead of slogging through it. Christian and Mikado agree that sports are a great way for young people to learn powerful lessons with spiritual implications.

Christian is joined by author, pastor, and founder of Radical David Platt. Christian and David dive into David’s calling to spread the Gospel all over the world, even to the most dangerous of places. David walks through his and his wife’s decision to adopt children internationally, as well as how to use the often scary and demoralizing headlines of today’s news to direct your prayer life. Christian and David explore the differences between the Christianity of the modern West and the Christianity practiced by others all over the world.

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Christian and Aodhan King, worship leader and songwriter at Hillsong Church in Sydney Australia, get into the details of Aodhan’s journey from being a kid at church to being one of the most recognizable figures in modern Christian music. Aodhan addresses critics of his music and how both artistic value and scriptural accuracy are important when writing lyrics. Christian and Aodhan discuss the evolution of Young & Free, an extension of Hillsong’s worship ministry where Aodhan is one of the key leaders.

 

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Christian and Earl McClellan, Pastor of Shoreline Church in Dallas, TX, share a bond for physical fitness and sports. Christian and Earl understand the temptation to idolize the physical, but find that dedicating time and effort to the Lord each day helps keep them grounded. They examine the urge to protect their families and consider how to balance their own instincts and fire with the humility that God calls us to.

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Christian is joined by Luke, John Luke, and Jeffrey to explore what’s widely considered to be one of the most powerful chapters in the Bible, Romans 8. Jeffrey refers to his relationship with his own children to illustrate God’s view of humanity, and John Luke points out that our convictions are guides that help lead us away from sinful paths. Christian argues that feeling convicted by our sins is a mark of authenticity for our faith, and the guys discuss common misconceptions of God made by the worldly. In this episode: Romans 8, Colossians 3, verse 3; 2 Corinthians 10, verse 5 This episode of 4:8 Men is sponsored by: https://www.covenanteyes.com/huff — Try Covenant Eyes FREE for 30 days! https://drinkag1.com/huff — Get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 & 5 FREE AG1 travel packs with your first purchase! -

Christian is joined by Nick Caine, Pastor of Zoe Churches and co-founder of the A21 Campaign, an organization whose mission is to end slavery and sex trafficking all over the world. Christian and Nick discuss the ups and downs of being married to strong, driven women and how their own skills fit into their marriages and missions. Nick explains his goal of ending slavery and trafficking forever and how that fight differs from country to country. Christian and Nick explore the evidence of God even in the most devastating situations.

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Matt Chandler, pastor of The Village church in Flower Mound, Texas talks with Christian about suffering and having a healthy fear of the Lord. Matt relates his own experience with brain cancer, chemotherapy, marriage issues and the sometimes terrible things he’s witnessed as a pastor. Christian and Matt explore some of the not-so-helpful platitudes Christians say to each other and how to honor God and each other in a culture with little honor.

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Matt Holiday, World Series Championship baseball player and former coach, gets real with Christian about his own faith and the hardships of raising a family as a professional athlete. Matt discusses how he encouraged his family but wouldn’t force them to fulfill worldly expectations. Christian learns about Matt’s work helping young men with professional sports potential to build a solid foundation before they get to the big leagues.

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Ben Stuart, relationship guru and pastor of Passion City Church in Washington, D.C., talks with Christian about how social media and technology have shaken the dating culture and are the root cause for a lot of failures. Ben and Christian discuss the effects pornography has on people in the real world and how the sexual revolution that began in the 1960s is detrimental to both women and young people. Christian is concerned that churches today are becoming too programmatic and predictable and that services seem almost redundant. Ben warns against making church into a production and missing the deeper meaning behind it.

 

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Christian and Tim Timberlake, Senior Pastor of Celebration Church in Jacksonville, FL, discuss how God plans out our lives by teaching us lessons through pain that are both beautiful and supernatural. Christian and Tim give a message to college students through their own experiences, but with the understanding that if their lives had gone differently, they wouldn't be where they are now. Tim makes a mission of reaching out to athletes and showing them how to bring God into their lives while working on their character and spiritual development. Christian and Tim both have seen "The Mario Movie" more times than they would like to admit with their kids, and Tim points out the deeper, hidden meanings he's found with each viewing. He then uses them as examples in his teaching and preaching.

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Christian is excited to welcome former NHL star Mike Fisher to talk about hockey, his marriage to Carrie Underwood, being a dad, hunting and finding your identity in God and NOT in your career. But first, Christian has to know about Mike's impressive music career and offers his help for his next single, if it happens. And did Carrie indirectly get him out of hockey retirement by jokingly poking at his ego? Mike loves being a dad, but it hasn't always been easy and speaks honestly about the valleys they walked through when they tragically experienced three miscarriages. Mike and Christian talk about what they've learned as husbands and dads and Mike reveals the one thing he decided to give up for his wife, and ended up getting it back! And don't miss what really happened to have Mike traded from the Ottawa Senators to the Nashville Predators right after he and Carrie had gotten married!

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Christian is joined by Martin Cash — a drummer for his family's band, "We the Kingdom" — but first, Christian asks the big question: Does the Cash family sing around the campfire? Martin shares how he first got into music and how a pro edition of Garage Band ignited his creative side and he quickly started to love creating music himself. Being on the road as much as he is, how does he balance the transition from being on the road to being home for a few days, then back on the road? Martin then talks about how he met his wife, Sarah, and has one of the best date stories that sounds like it's straight out of a movie. Christian and Martin talk about how meeting their wives has changed their relationship with God and how to stay passionate about your hobbies. 

 

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Christian and his wife, Sadie, are opening up the DMs for this episode! Christian has some tips for finding good community on college campuses and Sadie talks about finding purpose through passion. Christian and Sadie both confess they have a tendency to get defensive during arguments or disagreements. And what does it mean to be a man of God? Plus, Sadie tells Christian the moment she knew she fell in love with him and that they would get married. 

 

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Christian and Ben Gaukrodger have a lot in common: they both have construction in their background and they're both married to well-known women who are on-stage a lot. Ben is married to singer-songwriter and worship leader, Taya, and yet many people don't know what he looks like, but this could also be that he's not on social media and never has been — and he's fine with it! Ben admits he didn't know who Taya was when he first met her — but he pursued her, waited three years to start dating her and that taught him so much about trusting God, not just for what's in front of you, but trusting Him for what He said! Ben talks about how to love your neighbor in a time where it doesn't seem like people don't care about others and that he feels one thing people miss is ACTION and how going that extra mile speaks louder than words in evangelism. Christian wants to hear about Ben and Taya's move from Australia to California, and Ben shares what some of the biggest adjustments have been to living in a new country, including getting used to all the words and phrases we use! 

 

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Christian has a particular beef with his guest today: Michael Byron works for Delta, lives in Atlanta, yet has never visited Monroe, a 1-hr flight away? Michael defends why he hasn't been to visit yet, but says working for Delta and working and vacationing with his colleagues has grown his faith and encouraged him to not be hypocritical or too judgmental. Michael talks about his jiu-jitsu training and marvels at how much it continues to teach him humility and to NEVER judge anyone by their outward appearance. Plus, how did Michael get to a point where he desires time in God's Word every day, so much that if he hasn't read his Bible for two consecutive days, he feels noticeably worse. And as a single man, he shares what revelations came to him while on a recent trip to Barcelona — some great encouragement for anyone who feels like they're in a "waiting" time. 

 

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Christian, John Luke, and Luke are ready to dive into Romans 7 with founder and lead pastor of Fresh Life Church and a best-selling author, Levi Lusko. Levi takes time to clarify the scriptural references to Jewish law, Roman law, and the New Covenant of Jesus, while John Luke ponders how to fit God’s ideals into modern life in a practical way. Christian points out that turning our hearts toward Jesus doesn’t happen overnight, and a lifetime of sin means we should give ourselves grace when we mess up in our faith walk, and Levi emphasizes that feeling remorse for sins means that God’s spirit is living in us and guiding us toward righteousness. In this episode: Romans 7 This episode of 4:8 Men is sponsored by: https://drinkag1.com/huff — Get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 & 5 FREE AG1 travel packs with your first purchase! https://www.covenanteyes.com/huff — Try Covenant Eyes FREE for 30 days! -

Brothers be brothers! Christian is pumped to talk to his brother, Chance, about being drafted by the Washington Nationals in 2022, playing as a relief pitcher in the Minor Leagues, and about Chance's first six months of marriage. Chance admits some parts of marriage have been easier than others to get accustomed to, but encourages anyone that being selfless in marriage is always a top goal. And what was it like for Chance to throw his first 100mph fastball? Plus, Christian asks Chance about his new blog, "N0t By Chance" where various authors are sharing their lessons learned from their time in the Word. Chance is excited about his latest study on the heart of God and what he's been gleaning from his first read of the book of Numbers. Plus, these two are brothers at the end of the day and you'll definitely see that side come out a few times ... brothers be brothers! 

 

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Christian chats with his college friend — and first single friend he's had on the podcast — Chad Barfield about the times in life that have felt like a wilderness but can actually be the most spiritually redeeming and fruitful. Chad was a Plainsman at Auburn, and he says he always knew what his "next" was until COVID. He finished college without a graduation, and all the "sure things" he thought he had lined up didn't pan out that way. Chad found himself living in his car and going to job interviews, and he couldn't shake the thought that this wasn't how his life was supposed to be. Now, he's a seminary student working in a church with middle schoolers, but he says the call to ministry on his life was made very apparent in a particularly tough moment in his family's life. Chad encourages us that God knows us the BEST out of anybody, so when we find ourselves in a "wilderness" time, we need to be confident in who we are and who we belong to! 

 

Christian and his good friend, Bradley Northcutt — the guy who's "had more fitness journeys than anyone Christian's ever met" — first bonded over shared boxes of leftover Krispy Kreme donuts that were about to be thrown out. Bradley admits he's been convicted recently of his inconsistency in his time with the Lord, so he and Sage (previous episode's guest) decided to move their workout time to 4:30am to give more time for a daily one-on-one with Jesus. Bradley and Christian both confess their pride can often be a big hurdle in their relationship with their wives and how awful it is to be a "sore loser" in pickleball or poker games. Plus, there is a BIG difference between being content and being comfortable. Bradley says being comfortable is dangerous for the Christian. And both guys encourage us to be generous with everything God has given us. It's not ours, it never was, so why be stingy with blessing others? 

 

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Sage Ledbetter joins Christian to discuss some "dumb stuff" they experienced throughout college years, including large bets to defeat a porn addiction, Fortnite habits, and efforts to stop vaping. Christian says Sage is a servant-hearted person, a quality he greatly admires in him, but how did that change when Sage married his wife? Sage confesses it wasn't until he figured out how to BEST serve his wife that she could fully receive the love and care he was showing her. Sage also shares the story from his time playing for Auburn and his legendary punishment for being 5 minutes late ... twice! And a challenge to consider sacrificing time and sleep to be with God. 

 

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Jackson Speaks joins Christian to talk about finding success in business at a young age, anticipating the birth of his first child, married life, but also what legacy we can leave behind — and why that doesn't matter unless Jesus is at the center! — plus the daily battle against pride, whether it's outwardly or inner pride, and what's the difference? Jackson also encourages anyone who is extremely busy that day-to-day life with the Lord IS possible! Christian and Jackson talk about the sanctifying work of marriage, how it's the best gift to anyone. Plus, why the Lord doesn't NEED our money — because first of all, it's not ours, is it? And a reminder that with every social post, business venture, conversation or interaction, the most important factor is where your heart is. 

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Christian is excited to speak with Reeves Walker, the lead singer of LO Worship, a songwriter, a newlywed, and someone who is "amazed at what God drops" on his heart. Reeves spent a lot of time running from being alone and just with his thoughts. His need to be liked and accepted overwhelmed every area of his life, leading to substance abuse and addiction. But one night changed everything for him as he studied for a midterm. Reeves and Christian discuss what their "breaking points" were and why it wasn't necessarily their lowest points that required change. Plus, Reeves says he hates eating, and could Christian eat 15,000 calories in a 24-hour period? Reeves shares how he first discovered he could sing — and that he could even write songs — but says the Bible is ALWAYS his biggest inspiration. Reeves also talks about his intentional pursuit of his now-wife, Lydia, and while he thought he was ready to begin dating her at one point, God knew better (as He always does!) And Reeves says there was a reason he was in the friend zone for as long as he was, but he's grateful now for his new wife and the start of their married life together. 

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"We're just two dudes trying to figure it out" is a great way to describe the conversation Christian has with his new friend, Luke Albritton. Their wives introduced them, and they've gotten to know each other best through regular meetups at the gym, working out together, sharing prayer requests, and using the time to talk though wins and losses. Luke gets honest about how difficult it was to become a husband, learning how to serve his wife well, and how the transition to being a new dad has been a blessing, but a difficult blessing. Luke says he's always been active, from working as a boy on his family's farm to lifting weights in high school. He confesses that his "I can outwork anyone in the room" mentality that he was brought up with became a selfish, prideful desire about his own abilities and comparing himself to others and how he still strives to overcome that. Both Christian and Luke lament their sinful desires to sometimes just NOT be kind and loving, but they're doubly grateful for someone they can share these things with, and that's why your accountability person is SO important! 

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Christian is excited to welcome one of his all-time best friends, Buck Commander's Parker Amos, to the podcast to talk being newly married, how friendships can evolve, staying disciplined in different seasons, and how wearing tank tops says SO MUCH about where you're at (and that's not good!). Parker met Christian at Auburn and while they had an incredible group of friends at college, how do you make new friends and community best when you get married and move away? Plus, what you desire MOST says so much about where you are both spiritually and mentally. When is the last time you did a self-check to see how content you are in your life? And some encouragement for anyone who's moved to a new city and you're missing good friends who live close by, or missing being in close proximity to your family. 

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Christian is excited to welcome Pastor Rich Wilkerson Jr. to the podcast. Rich and his wife, DawnCheré, are the lead pastors of VOUS Church in Miami. Their heart for their city and for the next generation is an inspiration! Rich points out that he and Christian both share an important thing in common: wives from Louisiana! Rich wants to encourage us to remember our body is a temple, but it's God who is in charge of it — we're merely stewards. Plus, Rich explains why working out early on Sunday mornings — before a long, very full day — is absolutely key for his physical and mental strength. He's even nicknamed it "church before church." He also talks about why habits and practices are SO important, not just for physical training, but for mental health, spiritual health, and all-around well-being. Be addicted to PROGRESS, not perfection! The keep-going mentality, however big or small those steps are — and the consistency of those steps — is way more important than any "perfection." It's not what you're doing OCCASIONALLY that matters, but what you're doing CONSISTENTLY.

Craig Groeschel, pastor of Life.Church and host of the "Craig Groeschel Leadership Podcast," joins Christian for a frank, encouraging and convicting conversation. Craig has a lot to say about forming good habits, breaking bad ones, and the way discipline begets discipline. Starting small can often be the hardest, most important step! Craig and Christian discover they both dislike flossing, but the discipline of the teeth-cleaning ritual is what they both place value on, so the flossing continues! Plus, if anyone who has influence — however big or small — is a leader, then what kind of leader are YOU? Christian gets brutally honest about how difficult it can be to get out of the headspace of "you're not a good enough husband," and Craig has an enormous amount of wisdom to encourage anyone feeling the same way. They also dive into why "success" isn't defined as just hitting the goal you've set for yourself at some future date. Success is being faithful to Jesus today!

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Christian, Luke, and Paker are joined by lead pastor of Auburn Community Church, Miles Fidell, to discuss the paradoxical nature of Romans 6. Christian wonders about the modern American interpretation of conversion that makes it seem so easy, when in Paul’s time the switch to Christianity often came with steep personal cost. Miles emphasizes that Jesus has already done the work of providing grace, but it’s up to us to make a sacrificial choice every single day to live under that grace. Parker opens up about his past struggles, and the guys agree that living a new life in Jesus often negates the pleasures our old selves reveled in. In this episode: Romans 6; Luke 14 This episode of 4:8 Men is sponsored by: https://www.covenanteyes.com/huff — Try Covenant Eyes FREE for 30 days! https://drinkag1.com/huff — Get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 & 5 FREE AG1 travel packs with your first purchase! -

Christian is incredibly excited to speak with Rich Froning, the first person to win the title of "Fittest Man on Earth" after winning first place in the 2011 to 2014 CrossFit Games. Rich talks about where he gets his motivation to compete at such a high level, including a lot of busywork chores when he was growing up and having 25 male cousins who were always competing. Rich admits that as he gets older, he's not as interested in team competition and chooses to prioritize his family. While winning is certainly fun, the physical and emotional toll the training and competition takes is tough. Rich also recalls how placing second in the CrossFit Games was his rock bottom and a wake-up call that CrossFit had become not just his identity but an idol in his life. How do you fight against idolizing it? It's a daily battle. Finally, Rich shares how he keeps a tally of how he's measuring up each day in three categories: faith, family, and fitness.

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Reluctant "Duck Dynasty" star and "Unashamed" podcast host Phil Robertson joins Christian to talk about why he walked away from a pro football career and encouraged his backup QB, Terry Bradshaw, to take his place. Phil also talks about the decision to turn his life over to the Lord. Over 45 years ago, Phil's sister said to a pastor about her brother: "If you convert him, he'll convert thousands." Phil tells Christian he never thought he'd be speaking to the world about Jesus Christ, but it's one of the great joys and privileges of his life, and he's fired up about Jesus returning! Phil's son, Al Robertson, joins the conversation to share his childhood experience of watching countless young men drift toward his dad to ask for advice and instruction. While Phil wasn't following Jesus at that time, it was an incredible foreshadowing of Phil's future leadership in sharing the Gospel. Phil encourages us to "just do good like Jesus did ... and we'll be all right." 

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Christian is joined by Adam Klink, who just competed in the Leadville Trail 100 Run in Colorado. Adam gets brutally honest and for the first time shares what happened during that 24-hour run — how he adjusted to the higher altitude, how he pushed his body as far as he possibly could, and why his food plan didn't work. Adam was also the first to complete a 500-lb back squat and to run a sub-5 minute mile in the same day, which is something Christian just attempted, and they talk about how they both prepared and trained for this feat. Adam reminds us that success is often measured by the effort, not the outcome — and that's something only you can know: You gave it everything you had, you couldn't give it any more, and you're the personal judge of those feelings. If you gave 100% of everything you had, that's a success! Plus, sometimes it's a bigger learning opportunity to NOT make your goal on the first attempt. And a closing encouragement, especially to all the influencers out there: If you only showcase your wins, sure, that's cool, but isn't it more relatable for people if you're sharing your struggles too? Show people your hard days, your better days, the things you love, the things that haven't worked as well. Share it!

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Christian welcomes John-David Owen to the podcast this week. John-David is a co-host of the "Duck Call Room" podcast, worked as Willie Robertson's assistant for many years, and is Korie Robertson's cousin, so he's family! John-David talks about the ups and downs of his weight-loss journey and what it was like to walk 10K steps a day for 450+ days and then a second time for 365 days. Plus, they share how their friendship grew while attending a powerful men's retreat together. Christian shares a hilarious — and horrifying — early morning encounter he had with an unwanted visitor. John-David cautions us not to lose sight of the bigger picture when you're working toward your goals. The best approach is everything in moderation —  except your faith! He also reveals his journey to becoming the spiritual leader of his household and why doing the dishes was a huge first step.