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The impact of AI on content creation, social media platforms, sports, and the future of technology14 Aug 202600:42:43

In this episode, Lee and Cathy explore the impact of AI on content creation, social media platforms, and the future of technology. They discuss the challenges and opportunities AI presents for creators, platforms, and consumers, emphasizing the importance of ethical use and innovation. Outside of their tech executive roles, Cathy and Lee are also creators. Cathy is one of the top B2B creators and a top tech voice on LinkedIn and speaker. She recently launched a Travel and Tech video series on LinkedIn, Instagram and Youtube where she travels the world and brings her perspective on global tech. Lee is a talented musician with a significant following on Instagram and gifted writer too. He recently launched Dig, an animated short story series.

Key topics

  • AI's influence on content creation and monetization
  • Challenges faced by platforms like YouTube and TikTok due to AI
  • Opportunities for platforms like Roblox and LinkedIn in the AI era
  • Privacy concerns and data ownership in AI applications
  • The role of human creativity versus AI automation
  • Legal and ethical considerations of AI-generated content
  • The future of AI in sports, music, and entertainment
  • The importance of authentic human stories in a digital world

Key takeaways

  • AI is transforming content creation but raises ethical and monetization challenges.
  • Platforms are adjusting thresholds and policies to combat AI-generated spam and maintain quality.
  • Opportunities exist for platforms like Roblox and LinkedIn to innovate and monetize differently.
  • Privacy and data ownership remain critical concerns with AI and digital platforms.
  • Authentic human storytelling continues to be valued over AI-generated content.
  • Legislation and platform policies will shape how AI is integrated into media and entertainment.

Sound Bites

  • "AI is generating so much garbage that platforms have to increase thresholds"
  • "People want to watch humans, not AI robots"
  • "Hate the system, not the technology"

Sections

00:00Introduction to the episode and guest overview

02:11Lee shares his new web series inspired by a solar eclipse

03:55Cathy discusses her travel series in Greece and personal passions

05:07The creative process and overcoming fears of rejection

07:22YouTube's monetization changes and AI's impact on creators

10:40The rise of AI-generated content and its effects on platforms

12:20Juxtaposition of real creators versus AI content for kids

14:01Opportunities for platforms like Roblox and LinkedIn

16:53The challenge of AI in music and media industries

18:20Concerns about privacy and data ownership in AI

20:18The importance of human storytelling and authenticity

23:12AI's role in sports and entertainment, maintaining human element

27:38The future of AI regulation and ethical considerations

33:54Media partnerships and trust in AI-generated news

40:55The limits of AI in entertainment and human connection

42:15Closing thoughts and call for positive stories in tech

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler is Back! 05 Aug 202600:50:14

In this episode, Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler discuss the current state of technology, AI, gaming, and the importance of human connection in a rapidly evolving digital landscape. They share insights on global tech trends, the future of gaming, and the significance of ownership and authenticity in digital media.

keywords: technology, AI, gaming, digital ownership, human connection, global tech trends, UGC, generative AI, tech landscape, innovation

Key topics

  • Current state of technology and AI
  • The evolution of gaming and UGC platforms
  • Ownership and digital rights in media
  • Global conversations on AI and quantum computing
  • The importance of human connection in tech development

Takeaways

  • Technology is at a point of recalibration, with a focus on responsible innovation.
  • The gaming industry is shifting towards user-generated content and digital ownership.
  • Global conversations on AI are expanding beyond generative AI to include quantum and material sciences.
  • Ownership of digital media remains a concern, with a preference for tangible and owned content.
  • Human connection remains central to meaningful technology use and development.

Chapters

00:00Introduction and return to podcast

02:02Ownership of the podcast and its significance

03:18The changing landscape of technology and AI

04:55Overextension and recalibration of tech expectations

07:31Global conversations on AI and other emerging technologies

10:43Broader perspectives on innovation and global tech hubs

13:19Market trends and the return of startup innovation

17:21Content discovery challenges and digital ownership

20:07The future of gaming and user-generated content

26:16The decline of physical media and ownership issues

29:03Hollywood's embrace of gaming IP and UGC

32:16Launching new gaming studios and independent development

34:05The importance of authentic innovation in tech

37:33Interesting recent tech news and societal impacts

40:43Human connection versus technological automation

44:34The impact of AI on jobs and societal shifts

46:49Closing thoughts and future outlooks

The Future of Dating and AI, Voice Technology, and Gaming Trends with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Adam Cohen-Aslatei28 Jan 202600:56:43

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into the latest developments in AI, gaming IP, and practical technology trends shaping the industry today. They explore why the current AI skepticism signals maturity, how AI solutions are moving beyond flashy features, and the rise of gaming as a prime entertainment and commercial frontier. In the second segment, Cathy interviews Adam Cohen-Aslatei, CEO of Three Day Rule, about how human-centered AI is transforming matchmaking. They discuss voice-first technology, data-driven compatibility, IRL dating resurgence, coaching as a skill, and why AI amplifies intuition rather than replacing human connection.


Come for the tech and stay for the magic!



Cathy Hackl Bio


Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn



Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn



Adam Cohen-Aslatei Bio


Adam Cohen Aslatei is the CEO of Three Day Rule, one of the longest-standing matchmaking companies in the United States, with over 15 years of industry experience. With a background spanning dating app development, including roles at Bumble and the Meet Group, he brings a unique perspective on the evolution of digital dating and human connection. Adam is recognized for pioneering the integration of AI-driven matchmaking with traditional human-centered approaches, leveraging over 80,000 successful match data points to create outcomes-focused dating solutions.


Adam Cohen Aslatei on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics: 


  • 00:00 Intro
  • 03:15 AI's "So What?" Question: Moving Beyond Hype to Real Utility
  • 06:22 Apple Intelligence and Gmail Show the Power of Unobtrusive AI Integration
  • 10:18 The Trough of Disillusionment: Why We're Excited About AI's Reality Check
  • 12:22 Robotic Snow Removal and Vocational Work: AI Supporting Human Infrastructure
  • 17:33 Tech Magic Transitions to New Home with Big Plans Ahead
  • 18:45 Three-Day Rule: Building AI Matchmaking on 15 Years of Real Data
  • 20:24 How AI Sentiment Analysis Detects Truth in Dating Compatibility
  • 25:28 Voice-First Technology Creates More Authentic Human Connection
  • 29:13 Why In-Real-Life Dating Experiences Beat Endless Digital Swiping
  • 31:18 Dating as a Learnable Skill: How Coaching Increases Match Success by 40%
  • 34:45 Three Day Rule's 70-80% Success Rate vs. Dating Apps' 9% Failure
  • 40:09 Gaming IP Movies and the End of Marvel Fatigue
  • 43:41 Super Mario Galaxy, Iron Lung, and the Rise of Game Adaptations
  • 46:48 Fallout Series Success: How Gaming IP Drives Video Game Sales
  • 49:51 Gaming's Hidden Economy: Slot Machines, Free-to-Play, and Esports Silos
  • 51:17 Walmart and Unity SDK: Selling Physical Products in Virtual Worlds
  • 52:04 1.1 Million Unity Developers Get New Revenue Channels

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AI Ads, Data Center Labor, Skilled Trades, XR Training, and Spatial Web with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler21 Jan 202600:29:37

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler, unpack the realities behind today’s AI headlines. They explore OpenAI’s shift toward advertising, the growing human bottleneck in data center expansion, and why the AI conversation is moving beyond productivity toward physical and human-centred systems. The discussion dives into the surprising earning power of skilled trades, how XR is transforming workforce training, and why the metaverse was never just about VR headsets. From VRChat to The Sims, Cathy and Lee reveal where the spatial web is quietly taking shape, and what it all means for the future of work and technology.


Come for the tech and stay for the magic!



Cathy Hackl Bio


Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 

Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn




Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.

Lee Kebler on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics: 


  • 00:00 Intro
  • 00:33 The Shift in AI Conversation: From Productivity to Humanity
  • 05:15 OpenAI's Financial Crisis and the Ad-Supported ChatGPT Problem
  • 11:31 Can AI Intentionally Give Wrong Answers to Keep You Engaged?
  • 13:46 The Unexpected HVAC and Trades Shortage Fueling AI Infrastructure
  • 16:34 How XR Technology Transfers Expert Knowledge to New Tradespeople
  • 20:21 Meta's Metaverse Layoffs: Why Spatial Computing Is Still the Future
  • 25:33 VRChat Breaks Records While Gaming Embraces Living Worlds
  • 26:28 Luxury Brands Return to Gaming with Coach and The Sims
  • 28:08 Bethesda Revamps Fallout 76 After TV Show Success
  • 32:31 Book Recommendations and Final Thoughts

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CES 2026 Trends, World Models, Privacy-First AI, Robotics Demos, Future Devices with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler14 Jan 202600:30:51

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler return from a holiday break to unpack the most important ideas and innovations from CES 2026. Cathy breaks down how the AI conversation has evolved beyond large language models into embodied AI, agentic systems, world models, and on-device intelligence. The discussion spans standout demos, from attention-aware robots and immersive VR experiences to smart wearables and biodegradable batteries. Cathy and Lee also question whether AI is solving real problems or becoming an innovation theatre. We end with a forward look at 2027 as a critical inflection point for AI devices from Apple, OpenAI, and Meta.


Come for the tech, stay for the magic!



Cathy Hackl Bio


Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn



Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.

Lee Kebler on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics: 


00:00 Intro: Welcome Back to Tech Magic in 2026

03:27 AI's Evolution: From Language Models to Embodied Intelligence

05:30 Glasses Galore: Meta Ray-Ban Displays and Wearable Utility

09:26 Robots Everywhere: From Laundry Folders to AI-Powered Lawnmowers

12:00 CES 2027 Inflection Point: Q3-Q4 2026 Device Announcements to Watch

16:11 Innovation Theater vs. Problem-Solving: Evaluating Real Tech Impact

18:21 Trinity Vehicle and Cool Concepts: NVIDIA and Will.i.am's AI-Powered EV

20:51 Biodegradable Paper Batteries: Flint's Sustainable Solution

23:04 XR Display Glasses and Next-Gen Wearables: X Real and Gaming Integration

24:01 Attention Labs: On-Device AI and Data Sovereignty in Robotics

27:53 Why On-Device AI Matters: Global Markets and Data Regulations

29:30 IXR Podcast Meetup: Felix and Paul's Interstellar Arc VR Experience

33:32 LEGO Smart Bricks: The Future of Educational Robotics

35:44 Final Thoughts: CES as Geekapalooza and Plans for 2027

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Greatest Hits - Meta, Apple, XR Trends, the Future of Spatial Computing, and Creator Evolution with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler and Jeff Barrett31 Dec 202501:09:18

In this Greatest Hits episode of Tech Magic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into the latest tech developments, from Meta's bold moves in AR to Apple's Vision Pro journey one year later. They highlight Meta's success with Ray-Ban AI glasses, Apple’s challenges in AR innovation, and how creators are evolving into media moguls. Cathy also interviews special guest Jeff Barrett, who shares insights on building sustainable creator careers, the rise of nano-influencers, and the global expansion of digital content platforms. Whether you’re into cutting-edge tech or the creator economy, this episode captures 2025’s emerging trends.

Come for the tech, stay for the magic!


Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Jeff Barrett Bio

Jeff Barrett serves as the Chief Evangelist at the Shorty Awards, where he's been involved with the organization for 10 years. A former Shorty Award winner for Best Business Blogger, Barrett has evolved from a creator to an agency leader, demonstrating the possible progression within the creator economy. His journey began uniquely on MySpace and included creating a successful parody account on Twitter that inadvertently led to legitimate recognition in the marketing world. Barrett currently hosts the Shorty Awards show and runs a podcast called "It's No Fluke," which has produced over 130 episodes featuring leaders from major companies like Google, Meta, and the NFL.


Jeff Barrett on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics


  • 00:00 -  Intro & Tech News Overview
  • 02:50 -  The Future of American XR: Competition and Innovation
  • 11:15 -  Meta's Metaverse Strategy: Make or Break Year
  • 28:18 -  Apple Vision Pro: One Year Later
  • 41:24 -  Interview with Jeff Barrett: The Evolution of the Shorty Awards
  • 47:32 -  The Creator Economy: Trends and Future Growth
  • 53:27 -  Building Sustainable Creator-Brand Partnerships
  • 01:02:34 -  Creator Identity & Platform Evolution
  • 01:07:55 -  Final Thoughts & Media Recommendations


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Greatest Hits: Love in the Age of AI: Cathy Hackl with Samantha G Wolfe on Dating, Ethics, and Cathy’s Tech Intimacy Scale24 Dec 202500:54:48

In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, host Cathy Hackl is joined by Samantha G Wolfe, founder of PitchFWD and NYU adjunct professor, to explore how AI and emerging tech are redefining relationships. From AI-generated love letters to dating in virtual environments, they examine the evolving boundaries between authentic connection and digital convenience. The duo discusses the ethics of emotional AI, the importance of human messiness, and the need for “non-AI pledges” in romance. Packed with Cathy’s real-world experiments and insightful commentary, this episode is essential for anyone navigating love, intimacy, and connection in a world increasingly shaped by technology.


What you will learn:

  • How AI companions are being used beyond loneliness relief
  • Why the "messiness" of human relationships remains valuable 
  • How to navigate the balance between technology-enhanced and authentic human connections in modern dating using Cathy’s Tech Intimacy Scale
  • The emerging challenges of AI-generated messages in relationships
  • Why creating "non-AI relationship pledges" might become important 
  • How spatial computing and 3D interactions could transform the future of digital dating and what Cathy’s building to disrupt this space 
  • Why human presence and in-person connections remain crucial 


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Samantha G Wolfe Bio

Samantha G Wolfe is the founder of Pitch Forward and an adjunct professor at NYU, where she teaches pioneering courses on avatars, AI agents, and virtual beings. With a background in psychology, television, and emerging tech, Sam specializes in brand strategy for bleeding-edge technologies, helping visionary companies clearly articulate their value and future impact. Her expertise spans AI, spatial computing, XR, haptics, and metaverse innovation across 20+ industries. Known for her clarity, depth, and contagious enthusiasm, she bridges the gap between innovation and understanding through thought leadership, marketing strategy, and education, empowering the world to grasp the true potential of tomorrow’s tech.


Samantha G Wolfe on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic: Special Episode on Tech, Love & Life
  • 02:47 Dating in the Age of AI: Government Restrictions and Digital Romance
  • 12:20 Beyond Loneliness: The Many Reasons People Use AI Companions
  • 16:05 The Value of Human "Messiness" in Relationships
  • 21:00 Reimagining Digital Dating Through 3D Presence
  • 38:15 The Non-AI Relationship Pledge: Setting Digital Boundaries
  • 44:53 The Tech Intimacy Scale: Finding Balance in Modern Love
  • 50:20 Dating AI Chatbots: A Week-Long Experiment Preview
  • 58:54 Closing Thoughts: The Future of Human Connection

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Greatest Hits - Meta XR, Snap Glasses, AI Dating, Apple AR, and Story Living with Cathy Hackl and Adam Davis McGee17 Dec 202500:29:53

In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Adam Davis McGee dive into the cutting edge of spatial computing, AI, and extended reality. Join Cathy and Adam as they unpack Meta’s XR partnership with Palmer Luckey, Snap’s smart glasses ambitions, and Apple’s sleek AR design strategy. Cathy dives into the strange world of vibe coding and discovers anyone can gamify the pitfalls of the dating scene. The conversation also explores AI dating experiments, haptic tech in entertainment, and the evolving ethics of privacy in a spatially connected world. With insights from AWE and ILMxLAB, they reflect on the shift from storytelling to “story living” and highlight key legislation shaping AI security. A must-listen for anyone tracking the future of tech-human interaction.

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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Adam Davis-McGee Bio

Adam Davis-McGee is a dynamic Creative Director and Producer specializing in immersive storytelling across XR and traditional media. As Senior Producer at Journey, he led the virtual studio, pioneering cutting-edge virtual experiences. He developed a Web3 playbook for Yum! Brands, integrating blockchain and NFT strategies. At Condé Nast, Adam produced engaging video content for Wired and Ars Technica, amplifying digital storytelling. His groundbreaking XR journalism project, In Protest: Grassroots Stories from the Frontlines (Oculus/Meta), captured historic moments in VR. Passionate about pushing creative boundaries, Adam thrives on crafting innovative narratives that captivate audiences worldwide.


Adam Davis-McGee on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl
  • 06:33 Meta's Eagle Eye: Military XR Partnership with Palmer Luckey
  • 14:05 Apple's Liquid Glass: Paving the Way for AR Glasses
  • 17:25 Haptic Innovation: Apple's F1 Movie Trailer Experience
  • 19:18 Human vs AI: Why F1 Racing Needs the Human Element
  • 22:27 Browser History Dating: AI's Latest Match-Making Experiment
  • 26:27 Snap's Vision: Consumer Smart Glasses Coming in 2026
  • 31:27 From Storytelling to Story Living: ILMxLAB's Immersive Future
  • 33:54 Closing Thoughts: Summer Break Announcement


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AI Hardware Shifts, RAM Price Spikes, Google–Warby Parker Wearables, Meta’s MR Delays, and the Battle for AI Music Rights with Lee Kebler, Adam Davis McGee, and Ryan McMahan10 Dec 202501:01:42

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee unpack the rapid shifts transforming AI, hardware, and creative industries. Cathy is away this week and will be back in the new year. Lee and Adam explore how RAM manufacturers are pivoting away from consumer electronics toward AI, and how this will spike gaming and device prices in 2026, why Meta’s mixed-reality delays open the door for Google’s surprising partnership with Warby Parker, and how Google may be quietly edging ahead in the AI race. In the second half, Lee speaks with Ryan McMahan, who breaks down the legal and ethical storm surrounding AI-generated music. Together, they examine copyright grey zones, artist rights, and why AI is becoming more of an accelerant for creativity than a replacement for human artistry.


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Key Discussion Topics:


  • 01:40: RAM Shortage Will Devastate Consumer Electronics Pricing in 2026
  • 06:12: Meta's Mixed Reality Delay & the Battle Between Google and Meta
  • 11:29: Why Google Will Win the AI Race Over OpenAI
  • 23:52: AI Music Generation and the Copyright Crisis on Spotify
  • 33:28: Meet Ryan McMahan: Artist Manager Fighting for Creator Rights
  • 35:34: Blanco Brown's Story: From Platinum to Fighting AI
  • 38:50: The First Major Artist Covers an AI-Generated Song
  • 40:45: Understanding Covers vs. Derivatives in Copyright Law
  • 45:51: AI as a Creative Tool, Not a Job Replacement
  • 50:32: The Fast Fashion Problem in Modern Music Production
  • 57:31: Independent Artists Need Representation at Policy Tables
  • 01:01:45: Creative Industry Workers Share AI Concerns and Opportunities
  • 01:04:17: Meta's Consent Prompt: Is Algorithmic Boost Tied to AI Training Permission?
  • 01:05:59: Key Takeaways: AI, Copyright, and the Future of Creative Work


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F1 Tech and Cadillac Enters the Track in 2026, Humanoid Robots at MWC Doha and Vision Action Models.03 Dec 202500:46:38

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore how the future of AI is being shaped through hardware innovation happening around the world. They break down breakthroughs in autonomous vehicles, humanoid robots, and spatial computing, highlighting why hardware ownership now determines who controls data, training models, and long-term AI power. Cathy shares insights from her travels across Saudi Arabia and Qatar, while the hosts examine China’s accelerating hardware ecosystem, Gen Alpha’s rejection of “AI slop,” and the shift toward vision-action models. It’s a fast, global look at where AI is really advancing, and why it matters.


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Key Discussion Topics: 


  • [00:00] Intro
  • [00:23] Saudi Arabia and Qatar are booming in tech and entertainment.
  • [00:04:00] Formula One tech highlights the Abu Dhabi Championship showdown.
  • [00:07:13] Autonomous racing vs. human drivers shows motorsports’ future.
  • [00:10:23] NVIDIA's AlphaMoor offers open-source vision-language models.
  • [00:14:23] Women often prefer autonomous vehicles to human drivers.
  • [00:20:44] Owning hardware means owning data: the AI supremacy principle.
  • [00:22:19] Global hardware innovations from Alibaba, Huawei, and ByteDance are under the radar.
  • [00:26:51] "Human-authored" labels reveal widespread AI fatigue.
  • [00:30:05] Gen Alpha rejects AI content, demanding authentic creations.
  • [00:33:55] Copyright issues arise when sampling AI-generated music.
  • [00:37:03] Cathy’s Middle East speaking tour and CES 2025 lineup updates.
  • [00:39:33] Holiday spending is shifting to experiences over products.
  • [00:42:14] Book picks: the future of storytelling and understanding people.
  • [00:44:49] Gaming culture highlights: Dungeon Crawler Carl, FNAF 2, and Stranger Things.
  • [00:46:34] Key takeaways: physical AI, hardware ownership, and authentic human connection.


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Digital Presence, AI-Driven Noise, Content Repurposing, Real-World Experiences, and Brand Differentiation with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and David Cash26 Nov 202501:04:08

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler break down the biggest shifts shaping tech, entertainment, and personal branding. They explore emerging trends, from real-world experiences like Beastland, to the growing influence of spatial computing, and why authentic human content is becoming a premium as AI saturation rises. In the second half, Cathy sits down with David Cash, Founder and CSO of Cash Labs, Founder and Executive Producer of Catalyst Content Haus and Head of Marketing and acting CMO of DeLorean Labs, to discuss building a future-proof personal brand, repurposing content at scale, and why founders must take ownership of their digital presence now. Together, they reveal practical strategies for standing out and earning trust in an AI-driven media landscape.


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David Cash Bio:


David Cash is the Founder of Cash Labs and Catalyst, recognized as a leading force in bringing Web3 and emerging technologies to market. After a 12-year acting career and seven years running a production company, working on campaigns for brands like Brisk, Gaviscon, and Netflix, David became an early leader in Web3, authoring the first Master’s thesis on NFTs and producing Metaverse Fashion Week. Through Cash Labs, his work has driven billions of impressions and major revenue for global brands. His newest venture, Catalyst, helps executives create high-impact, future-ready content.


David Cash on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics: 


  • 00:00 Intro: Tech Magic Returns from the Middle East
  • 00:03 Beastland: MrBeast's Pop-Up Amusement Park Phenomenon in Riyadh
  • 00:08 Apple Vision Pro & Real Madrid: The Future of Immersive Sports Content
  • 00:12 Tim Cook's Potential Departure and Apple's Need for Disruption
  • 00:16 Meta Quest 3S at Costco for $200: The VR Hardware Game Heats Up
  • 00:20 Meet David Cash: From Child Actor to Web3 Pioneer and Content Strategist
  • 00:24 Why Business Leaders Must Own Their Content Strategy Now
  • 00:27 Catalyst: Productizing Executive Content Creation Into a Luxury Service
  • 00:30 How to Build a Personal Brand Session in One Day
  • 00:33 The Dead Internet Theory: Why Authentic Voices Are Your Competitive Moat
  • 00:36 Syndication Strategy: Turn One Piece of Content Into 1,000 Assets
  • 00:37 Legacy Media Still Matters: Why Adweek and Vogue Amplify Personal Brands
  • 00:40 The Evolution of Entertainment: From Broadway to Authentic Vlogging
  • 00:43 Human-Crafted Content as Luxury: The OnlyFans to OnlyWalks Future
  • 00:44 The Metaverse Isn't Web3: Redefining Virtual Spaces and Digital Identity
  • 00:48 How Your Content Choices Today Shape Your XR Future Tomorrow
  • 00:52 AI as a Tool: When to Use Generative Tech and When to Create Authentically
  • 00:53 The "Human Authored" Label: Why AI Slop Is Making Credibility Scarce
  • 00:57 Silicon Valley's Billion-Dollar Paradox: Oracle, SoftBank, and Unsustainable Bets
  • 01:00 Hardware Matters: Why Lam Research Is the Invisible Infrastructure Winner
  • 01:03 Key Takeaways: Personal Branding, Content Strategy, and the Human Edge


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AI Hype Cycles, Coca-Cola’s 70K-Prompt Misstep, Spotify’s AI Slop Battle, VR’s Killer-App Problem, Pokémon GO’s Execution Edge & Digital Passports with Lee Kebler and Andrew Schwartz19 Nov 202500:49:45

AI is booming, VR is evolving, and AR is exploding into the real world—but most of it still feels underwhelming.


On this week’s episode of TechMagic, host Lee Kebler welcomes Andrew Schwartz while host Cathy Hackl is away. Andrew is the Director of Metaverse Engineering at Nike, and together, they unpack the realities behind today’s AI hype cycle, revealing why generative AI can feel both astonishing and underwhelming. They explore brand risks in AI-driven content, the fight against AI slop in music distribution, and the long road to mainstream VR and AR adoption. Andrew and Lee also break down Pokémon GO’s execution-first success and the rise of identity-based tech, from digital product passports to personalized, location-aware experiences, offering a clear-eyed look at what truly comes next in immersive technology.


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Andrew Schwartz Bio

Andrew Schwartz is a technology strategist and the Director of Metaverse Engineering at Nike, where he pioneered emerging technology integration within the Technology Innovation Office. Having coined the title "godmother of the metaverse" for industry luminary Cathy Hackl, Andrew brings deep expertise in blockchain identity, XR/AR/VR technologies, and spatial computing. 


Andrew Schwartz on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics: 


  • [00:00] Intro
  • [00:00] Welcome to Tech Magic with Andrew Schwartz
  • [00:01] How "Godmother of the Metaverse" Became Cathy Hackl's Defining Title
  • [00:03] Nike's Metaverse Engineering and Emerging Technologies
  • [00:06] Technology First vs. Outcome First: The Real AI Hype Cycle Challenge
  • [00:13] Why Coca-Cola's 70,000-Prompt AI Christmas Ad Reveals a Deeper Problem
  • [00:16] Imperfection as Strategy: When Flaws Build Brand Trust
  • [00:21] The AI Music Crisis: How Spotify and CD Baby Protect Indie Artists
  • [00:27] Copyright, Authenticity, and the Future of AI-Generated Content
  • [00:31] VR Headsets Are Impressive—But Where's the Killer App?
  • [00:34] Apple Vision Pro: Great Technology, Missing Experience
  • [00:36] Why Beat Saber Succeeded Where Other VR Games Failed
  • [00:38] Content Over Hardware: Lessons from iPhone, iPod, and Atari
  • [00:40] Pokemon Go Wasn't About AR—It Was About the Brand
  • [00:42] Super Nintendo World Shows How to Make Technology Invisible
  • [00:44] The Future of Identity: Digital Product Passports and NFC Activation
  • [00:47] Music Recommendation: SAULT, Neo-Soul, and the Mystery of AI
  • [00:49] Key Takeaways: Where Tech Magic Actually Happens


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AI Does its Own Reputation Spin, Google’s AI Data Edge, The AI Slop Crisis, Self-Coding Malware, TED Next, Cathy Headlines Female Quotient’s AI Summit and interview on Cuffing Season 2.0 & Dating Tech with Myles Slayton of Cerca12 Nov 202501:02:41

As AI systems start rewriting their own code and sanitising negative news about themselves, the line between control and autonomy is blurring. In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the unsettling rise of AI self-management, Google’s growing edge over OpenAI through real-world data, and the “AI slop spiral” threatening to degrade the entire internet. They also examine malware that now uses AI to rewrite its own code, an alarming glimpse into adversarial AI. 

The episode also includes Cathy’s exciting interview with Myles Slayton, CEO of Cerca Dating, to explore how mutual-based dating is redefining online connections through trust and community. From Gen Z’s new dating habits to the irreplaceable value of human imperfection, this episode dives deep into what’s next for both AI and authenticity.


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Myles Slayton Bio

Myles Slayton is the 23-year-old Co-founder and CEO of Cerca Dating, a mutuals-based dating app revolutionizing how Gen Z approaches online dating. A Georgetown University graduate, Miles founded Circa to address the fatigue and safety concerns plaguing traditional dating applications. With a mission to connect users through trusted friend networks rather than algorithms, Cerca has rapidly scaled to approximately 100,000 users while maintaining a healthy 60%+ female user base.

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Key Discussion Topics: 


  • 00:00:00 Intro
  • 00:06:09 ChatGPT's Automatic Headline Sanitization Exposed
  • 00:14:32 The "Dog Eating Its Own Barf" Problem in AI Training
  • 00:18:02 Google Wins the AI War with Real-World Data Access
  • 00:24:23 OnlyFans Monetization Model & Vylit App Launch
  • 00:26:19 The Death of Traditional Dating Apps
  • 00:32:02 Circa: The Mutuals-Based Dating App Revolution
  • 00:33:21 Cuffing Season 2.0 and Gen Z Dating Trends
  • 00:39:15 Trust, Safety & Reputation-Based Dating
  • 00:43:50 Why AI Cannot Replicate Human Chemistry
  • 00:49:06 Roblox Abuse Lawsuit and Platform Safety Issues
  • 00:53:33 AI-Powered Malware Rewriting Its Own Code
  • 00:55:03 TEDx Atlanta and the Future of Creativity
  • 00:57:50 "Humanity is the Moat Around the Machines"
  • 00:58:50 Cathy's Gulf States Roadshow & CES 2025 Plans
  • 01:01:4 What We're Watching: Pluribus & The Spatial Race
  • 01:02:16 Key Takeaways & Final Thoughts


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OpenAI’s $38B Deal, Hinton’s AI Shift, GTC & FiI in Riyadh, Data Wars, Meta’s Hardware, Gaming in KSA with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, Melissa Tony Stires, and Janna Salokangas.of Mia AI, Cathy Heads to TED Next and the Female Quotient’s AI Summit05 Nov 202501:02:54

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore OpenAI’s Sora and how AI-driven video generation reshapes creativity, privacy, and consent. From OpenAI’s massive $38B AWS deal to the ethical storm over data scraping and copyright, they unpack the week’s biggest tech power plays. The duo explores Geoffrey Hinton’s surprising optimism on AI’s future, Meta’s data mishap, and how companies are redefining roles through spatial computing. Plus, Lee shares insights from NVIDIA’s GTC conference and what it reveals about the true cost and promise of AI. 


The episode also features Cathy’s exciting interview with Melissa Tony Stires, Chief Global Officer at Mia AI, and Janna Salokangas, Co-Founder and CEO of Mia AI. Together, they discuss strategy-first adoption of AI, the importance of AI literacy, and the mindset shifts leaders need to drive human-centred transformation in the era of intelligent tools.


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Melissa Tony Stires Bio

Melissa Tony Stires is an international protocol expert and leadership innovator specializing in cross-cultural communications and women’s empowerment in AI. As a Chief Global Officer at Mia AI, she bridges tradition and technology through global collaborations and billion-dollar initiatives. A certified Advanced International Protocol Officer, best-selling author, and sought-after speaker, Melissa’s work has shaped dialogues from Davos to Cannes Lions, advancing inclusivity, innovation, and global understanding in the tech landscape.


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Janna Salokangas Bio

Janna Salokangas is the Co-founder and CEO of Mia AI, where she’s redefining how people and organisations unlock their full potential through AI-driven learning and innovation. Under her leadership, Mia has trained over 7,000 professionals across 65+ countries, partnering with leading institutions to deliver transformative AI education and solutions. A co-founder of Finnish Flow, Janna also champions Finland’s business community at Davos, advocating for human-centric AI and the future of equitable, empowered innovation.


Janna Salokangas LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic
  • 00:28 NVIDIA GTC & Nokia's $1B AI Investment
  • 00:54 Geoffrey Hinton Shifts AI Stance on Job Displacement
  • 08:17 Sharp HealthCare's First Chief Spatial Computing Officer
  • 09:05 OpenAI's $38 Billion Amazon AWS Deal Explained
  • 15:17 Perplexity vs Reddit: Data Scraping Lawsuit Breakdown
  • 21:28 AI Augmentation Over Replacement: Secret Cinema's Approach
  • 26:19 Magic Leap's Google Partnership & New AI Glasses
  • 32:17 TEDx Atlanta: Alvin Wang Graylin & Industry Leaders
  • 35:45 AI Education Interview with Janna & Melissa from Mia AI
  • 37:18 Mia AI: Human-Centered AI Education Going Global
  • 42:35 Strategy-First AI Adoption: Define Problems Before Tools
  • 42:46 Real-World Success Stories: From Universities to Single Mothers
  • 47:28 What Differentiates Mia AI in a Crowded Market

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Cathy at Nvidia’s GTC, Advances in Robotics, Cathy Goes Shopping with a Humanoid Robot, Samsung XR’s Future, Bored Apes Are Back and r what happened at Vogue Singapore's Next in Vogue and Singularity U South Africa Summit29 Oct 202500:54:09

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the fascinating, funny, and sometimes unsettling intersection between humans and machines. From Cathy’s “shopping date” with humanoid robot Maximus to Amazon’s ambitious plans to automate its warehouses, the hosts unpack how AI and robotics are reshaping work and daily life. They also discuss Samsung’s entry into the XR race with the Galaxy headset, the return of Bored Ape Yacht Club’s metaverse project, and innovations like direct-to-vinyl recording. With equal parts humour and insight, Cathy and Lee decode how today’s emerging technologies are redefining what’s possible, and what’s still human.


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Cathy Hackl Bio


Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn



Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 01:30 Shopping with Maximus: A Human-Robot Retail Adventure
  • 10:35 Amazon's Automation Revolution: 600,000 Jobs Going Robotic
  • 18:30 The AI Bubble: Debating the Reality of AGI and Market Hype
  • 28:40 Understanding ChatGPT's Limitations and Technical Challenges
  • 37:00 Samsung Galaxy XR: A New Player in the XR Hardware Space
  • 43:50 Amazon's HUD Glasses and the Future of Spatial Computing
  • 50:25 Bored Ape Yacht Club Returns with "Otherside" Metaverse Project
  • 54:58 Upcoming Events and a Deep Dive into Vintage Audio Technology

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The AWS Outage Chaos, Fashion's AI Revolution, Sora 2.0's Dark Side & OpenAI's Controversial Pivot with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler22 Oct 202500:38:05

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl (yep, she’s back) and Lee Kebler open Pandora’s box - the tech edition. This episode’s all about navigating tech disruptions and learning to roll with the punches. From the AWS outage and OpenAI's controversial content policies, to Sora's impact on content creation, Pinterest's AI content controls, and Apple's quiet Vision Pro updates, they deep dive into it all! The AI landscape is evolving faster than you can say the word and so are its implications on content, creativity and commerce. 


Just like Cathy’s travels from Singapore to South Africa, your favourite Tech Magic pair are jetsetting into the world of technology, offering a global perspective on where we’re heading and the ethical questions we need to address.


Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more.


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • [00:00] Intro to TechMagic 
  • [01:15] What the Hell AWS? How a Global Outage Caused Chaos
  • [04:30] Going Global: Tech Perspectives from Singapore to South Africa
  • [08:00] OpenAI's Sora 2: Questions of Purpose and Ethics
  • [14:30] Pinterest Takes a Stand Against AI-Generated Content
  • [17:00] OpenAI's Controversial Move into Adult Content
  • [25:30] Apple's Quiet Hardware Updates and Vision Pro Changes
  • [31:00] Gaming Evolution: From Atari to Interactive Documentaries
  • [35:00] Final Thoughts and Future Conference Plans


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Sora 2, AI Ethics, Nintendo Research, Apple Vision Pro, Support Ends for Windows 10 with Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee15 Oct 202500:47:36

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee explore the evolving intersection of AI, creativity, and ethics. Cathy is away this week and will rejoin the show next week. Meanwhile, Lee and Adam delve into OpenAI’s Sora 2 and its implications for digital rights, content authenticity, and ethical innovation. The hosts examine Nintendo’s research on gaming’s cognitive benefits, Apple Vision Pro’s NBA partnership, and the Windows 10 end-of-support scenario. They also discuss AI’s energy consumption and emerging global regulations on intellectual property. Perfect for tech enthusiasts, creators, and industry professionals, this episode provides balanced insights into the opportunities and responsibilities that accompany today’s rapidly evolving digital landscape.


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Adam Davis-McGee Bio

Adam Davis-McGee is a dynamic Creative Director and Producer specializing in immersive storytelling across XR and traditional media. As Senior Producer at Journey, he led the virtual studio, pioneering cutting-edge virtual experiences. He developed a Web3 playbook for Yum! Brands, integrating blockchain and NFT strategies. At Condé Nast, Adam produced engaging video content for Wired and Ars Technica, amplifying digital storytelling. His groundbreaking XR journalism project, In Protest: Grassroots Stories from the Frontlines (Oculus/Meta), captured historic moments in VR. Passionate about pushing creative boundaries, Adam thrives on crafting innovative narratives that captivate audiences worldwide.


Adam Davis-McGee on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Lee Kebler and ADM
  • 04:07 Exploring Artist Reactions to AI: Surprising Enthusiasm in LA
  • 08:03 Sora 2: Ethical Concerns and Digital Rights
  • 23:55 AI Content Bias: OpenAI's Power Consumption Story
  • 33:20 Roblox's New Parent Council: Better Late Than Never
  • 38:35 Nintendo Debunks Gaming Myths: Benefits for Attention Span
  • 42:47 Apple Vision Pro: NBA License and VR History
  • 46:41 Windows 10 Support Ending: What Users Need to Know
  • 50:30 Recommendations and Closing Thoughts


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OpenAI’s Sora, Deepfakes, Meta Ray-Bans, AI Startup Boom, and the End of AOL with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler08 Oct 202500:36:47

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the week’s biggest tech stories, from OpenAI’s latest announcements and Sora’s deepfake potential to Meta’s sold-out Ray-Ban smart glasses. They explore how AI integrations with platforms like Coursera, Canva, and Zillow could reshape how we access and trust information. The hosts also dive into the implications of skyrocketing AI startup valuations and reflect on the end of AOL dial-up, closing a chapter in internet history. Balancing enthusiasm with caution, they challenge listeners to consider the ethical, social, and creative consequences of an increasingly AI-driven world.


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Episode Highlights:


  • The Privacy Implications of AI Video Generation – Cathy Hackl’s hands-on test of OpenAI’s Sora exposes major privacy challenges around biometric data and deepfake creation. By simply reading numbers and moving one’s head, users can generate hyper-realistic videos of themselves or others, without consent. While visuals are striking, voice replication remains flawed. Cathy and Lee caution that such tools blur ethical lines, raising urgent questions about consent, authenticity, and data ownership in creative AI adoption.


  • OpenAI’s Vision for Information Control – Lee Kebler dissects OpenAI’s ambition to centralise online experiences through deep integrations with Coursera, Canva, and Zillow. By keeping users inside ChatGPT’s ecosystem, OpenAI could redefine how information flows, but at a cost. Cathy and Lee warn that algorithmic filtering may restrict perspective diversity, amplify bias, and erode the open web’s foundational freedom. Their advice: diversify digital sources to maintain balanced, transparent information access.


  • The Rise of Consumer AR Hardware – Meta’s Ray-Ban smart glasses sell-out reveals the next leap in wearable adoption. Cathy and Lee analyse how fashion-forward design, practical utility, and accessible pricing have made AR more approachable. Positioned between novelty and necessity, these wearables hint at future accessibility, productivity, and communication uses. They stress that long-term success will depend on ergonomic design, battery life, and balancing innovation with real-world wearability.


  • The AI Investment Bubble Warning Signs – Cathy and Lee discuss mounting worries from industry giants like Sam Altman and Jeff Bezos about inflated AI valuations. Unlike past bubbles driven by retail hype, today’s surge stems from institutional overconfidence and misunderstanding of AI fundamentals. Many investors conflate general AI with LLMs, fuelling unrealistic expectations.


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 01:44 Testing OpenAI's Sora: Deep Fake Capabilities and Privacy Concerns
  • 15:02 OpenAI's Dev Day: Impressive Tools and Integration Announcements
  • 18:09 The Dark Side of AI Integration: Information Control and Filter Bubbles
  • 25:23 Apple's Vision Pro Updates and Meta's Ray-Ban Success
  • 32:41 Farewell to AOL: The End of Dial-Up Internet Era
  • 34:17 AI Startup Valuations: Warning Signs of a Tech Bubble
  • 38:05 Final Thoughts: Music Recommendations and Show Wrap-Up

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Spatial Computing, Apple Vision Pro, Enterprise Collaboration, AI Safety, and LLM Limits with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Tom Acland01 Oct 202500:49:43

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler delve into the latest developments in tech, from Meta’s hardware updates to AI advancements and parental controls. Cathy interviews Tom Acland, CEO at Dassault Systèmes 3DEXCITE. Learn how the Apple Vision Pro is transforming enterprise collaboration and why we're finally reaching the tipping point for widespread adoption of spatial computing technology. Whether you're a tech enthusiast or industry professional, this episode delivers sharp insights into the intersection of AI, spatial computing, and enterprise innovation. Cathy and Lee also discuss why current LLMs won’t lead to superintelligence and they debate the impact of AI on sports.


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Tom Acland Bio


Tom Acland is the CEO at Dassault Systèmes’ 3DEXPERIENCE division, where he drives innovation in enterprise spatial computing and manufacturing. He specialises in bridging engineering and media technology, helping clients like Hyundai, Virgin Galactic, and Deutsche Aircraft bring products to market through advanced visualization and collaboration tools. In this episode, Tom discusses Dassault Systèmes’ work with Apple Vision Pro and their 3D Live app, sharing insights on the future of spatial computing, mixed reality, and transforming enterprise collaboration.


Tom Acland on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cath Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 01:40 Meta Connect Reflections and Failed Demos
  • 06:19 OpenAI's Hallucinations: Mathematical Inevitability
  • 08:50 ChatGPT's Parental Controls and Real-World Applications
  • 13:11 The Evolution of AI Music and Creative Tools
  • 16:39 Friend.com: Marketing AI Hardware Without Mentioning AI
  • 19:13 AI Boyfriends and Celebrity Voice Clones
  • 31:37 Baseball's Robot Umpires: Technology vs Tradition
  • 34:22 Interview: Tom Acland on Enterprise Spatial Computing
  • 39:08 Dassault Systèmes' 3D Live App for Apple Vision Pro
  • 42:52 Industries Embracing Spatial Computing Technology
  • 46:28 The Future of Spatial Computing: Next 5-10 Years
  • 50:55 Balancing Innovation with User Trust and Safety
  • 54:10 Final Thoughts and Media Recommendations


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Meta Connect, Intel-NVIDIA Deal, Waymo Autonomous Ride, TikTok Oracle Talks, and AR Glasses with Lee Kebler and Nic Hill24 Sep 202500:53:54

In this episode of TechMagic, host Lee Kebler is joined by Nic Hill, co-founder and Chief Innovation Officer of Sawhorse Productions, to explore the latest tech developments shaping our digital world. Together, they break down Meta Connect’s memorable moments and mobile-first pivot with Horizon Worlds, Intel’s surprising $5B partnership with NVIDIA, and Lee’s first-hand experience with Waymo’s autonomous vehicles. The discussion also covers TikTok’s potential acquisition by Oracle and the future of AR glasses and spatial computing. With insider insights and thoughtful analysis, Lee and Nic unpack how legacy tech companies are navigating rapid innovation, offering a must-listen guide for tech enthusiasts and professionals alike. Cathy is away this week and will rejoin the show next week.


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Lee Kebler Bio:

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.

Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Nic Hill Bio:

Nic Hill is the Co-Founder and Chief Innovation Officer at Sawhorse Productions, a full-service production and post house specialising in branded content, commercials, and scripted and non-scripted shows. With over 12 years of experience, Nic has assembled a talented team of experts in video production, editing, and comedy. Passionate about immersive metaverse experiences that blur the line between film and gaming, he delivers innovative content for leading brands, studios, and agencies worldwide. Previously, Nic worked as an independent film director and editor, creating internationally acclaimed documentaries. Based in Los Angeles, he enjoys DJing, biking, and family time.


Nic Hill on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro & Welcome from LA
  • 05:31 Inside MetaConnect: A Front Row Perspective
  • 08:15 Meta's Smart Glasses Evolution & Design Strategy
  • 21:27 Horizon Worlds' Mobile-First Transformation
  • 33:35 First-Hand Experience with Waymo's Self-Driving Cars
  • 40:45 NVIDIA's $5B Investment in Intel: Gaming's Future
  • 44:30 Oracle's TikTok Acquisition & Social Media Shifts
  • 51:25 The Smart Glasses Arms Race: Amazon & OpenAI Enter
  • 55:31 Final Thoughts: Alien Earth & AI Evolution


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Meta Connect, Ray-Ban AI Glasses, Amazon’s Smart Eyewear, Nintendo’s Virtual Boy Revival, and AI Superintelligence with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler17 Sep 202500:46:52

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the future of hardware innovation, from Meta’s anticipated Connect event to Nintendo’s bold gaming moves. They unpack Meta’s AI-powered smart glasses collaborations, Amazon’s push into wearable tech, and Nintendo’s surprising Virtual Boy revival. Alongside hardware news, Cathy and Lee examine the deeper cultural and societal shifts at play, and how AI-driven personal superintelligence could reshape user experience, privacy, and even fashion. Packed with insider insights, this episode highlights why hardware is no longer just functional but increasingly a cultural statement at the intersection of technology and humanity.



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Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 02:03 Apple's Disappointing Hardware Event: A Missed Opportunity
  • 06:28 Meta Connect Preview: The Hypernova Moment for AI and XR
  • 11:15 Meta's Smart Glasses Strategy: From Ray-Ban to Luxury Brands
  • 17:30 The Vision for Personal Superintelligence and AI Evolution
  • 28:00 Social Media's Algorithm Problem: A Facebook Case Study
  • 36:50 The Hardware Race Heats Up: Amazon, HTC, and Samsung Join In
  • 37:15 Nintendo's Virtual Boy Revival: A Controversial Return
  • 44:10 Smart Game Pricing: Hollow Knight's Market Strategy Success
  • 53:15 Final Thoughts: The Future of Tech, Media Recommendations, and Closing

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Moon Communications, Space Commerce, AI Wearables, Gaming Safety, and Global Esports with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Thierry Klein10 Sep 202501:24:18

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the future of space and digital entertainment, and discuss AI-driven space operations, Roblox’s expansion with 100,000-player servers, and Paramount’s Call of Duty film adaptation. From esports acquisitions shaping global markets to safety and privacy in AI wearables, the conversation touches on several key tech trends that are influencing our world. Cathy interviews Thierry Klein, President of Bell Labs Solutions Research at Nokia. They uncover how Nokia built the first cellular network on the moon, laying the foundation for a sustainable lunar economy and future Mars missions.


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Thierry Klein Bio


Thierry Klein is the President of Bell Labs Solutions Research at Nokia, a pioneering figure in space communications and network infrastructure. With extensive experience in telecommunications and space technology, Klein leads research initiatives focused on AI, Web3, and new device technologies at the historic Bell Labs, which is celebrating its centennial year. He has played a pivotal role in delivering the first cellular network on the moon during the Intuitive Machines' IM2 mission, marking a historic milestone in space communications.


Thierry Klein on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro and Show Updates
  • 02:20 Nokia's Innovation Campus in Finland - A Hub for Future Tech
  • 04:44 Space Technology and Lunar Networks - Nokia's Groundbreaking Mission
  • 27:36 Building the First Cellular Network on the Moon 
  • 35:36 Transforming Astronaut Operations with Advanced Communications
  • 40:41 The Future of Lunar Economy and Infrastructure
  • 48:46 Interplanetary Communications and the Space Internet
  • 55:13 AI's Role in Space Operations and Networks
  • 01:10 Roblox Developer Conference Updates and Safety Features
  • 01:19 Gaming Industry Updates: Call of Duty Movie and EVO Tournament News
  • 01:27 Wearable AI Technology Review and Future Outlook
  • 01:30 Closing Thoughts and Show Wrap-up


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Digg Relaunch, AI Ethics, Online Trust, Platform Safety, and Human Connection with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Kevin Rose03 Sep 202501:14:15

In this exciting return of TechMagic in season 3, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler sit down with Kevin Rose, founder of Digg and partner at True Ventures, to explore the future of digital communities and human-first technology. Together, they discuss the ambitious Digg relaunch in partnership with Reddit’s co-founder, Alexis Ohanian, the challenges of building trust and safety on online platforms, and the disruptive role of AI in shaping content and jobs. 


From redefining how we talk about AI “hallucinations” to highlighting the rising importance of authentic human connection, this episode provides fresh insights into the evolving relationship between technology, community, and our shared digital future.


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What you will learn:

  • Building Trust in Digital Communities
  • The Power of Niche Communities
  • Strategic AI Integration
  • The Return to Real-World Connection


Kevin Rose Bio

Kevin Rose is a pioneering tech entrepreneur, investor, and partner at True Ventures. He is best known as the founder of Digg, the first major social news platform. Over his 25+ year career, he has launched and led multiple ventures, including Revision3 (acquired by Discovery), Zero (the leading intermittent fasting app), and served as CEO of Hodinkee. Rose has been an early angel investor in Twitter, Square, Facebook, and more, earning recognition from Bloomberg, Forbes, MIT, and Time as one of the most influential figures in tech. His focus today is building trustworthy, human-first digital communities and advancing the future of online platforms.

Kevin Rose on LinkedIn 1

Kevin Rose on LinkedIn 2


Key Discussion Topics:

  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic Season 3
  • 03:19 Adventures in Finland & India: Cathy's Global Tech Journey
  • 07:05 ChatGPT Drama: Checking on AI Boyfriends
  • 12:12 Kevin Rose Interview: The Return of Digg
  • 18:22 Building Trust in Digital Communities
  • 28:30 The Future of In-Person Meetups
  • 32:19 AI Integration & Human Connection
  • 39:16 Meta Connect & Smart Glasses Privacy Concerns
  • 42:17 The Roblox Safety Debate
  • 51:32 AWS vs. Salesforce: The Entry-Level Jobs Controversy
  • 59:26 Finding Balance in a Tech-Saturated World
  • 01:13:14 Final Thoughts: Gratitude & Music Recommendations

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Embedded Finance, Digital Wallets, AI Agents, and Payment Innovation in 2025 with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Special Guest Nabil Manji27 Aug 202501:09:06

Cathy and Lee are taking a break this month, and August is Greatest Hits time on TechMagic as we pull out some special episodes from our vault. In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the cutting-edge innovations transforming finance and commerce in 2025. Along with special guest Nabil Manji, SVP of Fintech Growth at Worldpay, the trio discusses the rise of digital wallets and embedded finance, as well as the power of AI agents and real-time payments. They explore how technology is redefining money movement on a global scale and tackle the impact of quantum computing on payment security. They look at the challenges of AI safety and what companies like Shopify are doing to lead the charge. A must-listen for anyone curious about the future of fintech.


What you will learn:

  • How digital wallets are transforming global commerce
  • Why embedded finance is revolutionizing delivery of financial services to customers
  • The evolution of real-time payments across different global markets 
  • How AI agents are reshaping commerce through automated purchasing 
  • Why stablecoins are emerging as a crucial tool for cross-border payments 
  • The impact of quantum computing on payment security 
  • The challenges facing traditional retail experiences 
  • Current concerns around AI chatbots and the need for stronger safety measures
  • The growing pains of emerging tech trends, from Nintendo's preorder challenges to Meta's AI controversies


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Nabil Manji Bio

Nabil Manji is the Senior Vice President and Head of Fintech Growth and Financial Partnerships at Worldpay, where he leads strategic initiatives in emerging payment technologies and financial partnerships. With extensive experience in the payments industry, he oversees how Worldpay collaborates with banks, fintech companies, and card networks to shape the future of money movement. His expertise in payment infrastructure and involvement in Worldpay's Global Payments Report make him uniquely qualified to discuss how technological innovations are transforming the way we think about and handle transactions in an increasingly digital world. His strategic vision for the intersection of technology and finance provides valuable 


insights for businesses and professionals interested in the future of payments and financial technology.

Nabil Manji on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler
  • 02:44 AI & Mental Health: The Rise of Digital Therapy Solutions
  • 09:51 Nintendo Switch 2: When Preorders Go Wrong
  • 18:06 Slate Auto: Reimagining the Electric Truck
  • 25:44 The Three Pillars of AI in Payments with Nabil Manji
  • 39:37 Digital Wallets: The Evolution of Modern Payment Methods
  • 46:20 Cryptocurrency as Payment Infrastructure
  • 49:20 Understanding Embedded Commerce & Finance
  • 53:57 Quantum Computing's Impact on Payment Security
  • 01:03:47 Meta AI Controversy: Safety Concerns & Celebrity Voices

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AI Photo Tracking, AR Marketing, Spatial Computing, and Humanoid Robots with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Special Guest Tom Emrich20 Aug 202501:06:21

Cathy and Lee are taking a break this month, and August is Greatest Hits time on TechMagic as we pull out some special episodes from our vault. In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack viral AI trends, privacy concerns surrounding ChatGPT's photo location capabilities, and the future of spatial computing with special guest Tom Emrich, author of "The Next Dimension." They discuss the marketing power of augmented reality, including Avon’s 320% sales boost, and examine the evolution from smartphone-based AR to smart glasses and mixed reality. Tom introduces the “Play, Pilot, Proof” framework and explains why “presence” is the new P in marketing. It’s a compelling look at how digital and physical worlds are fast converging.


What you will learn:

  • How AI tools like ChatGPT can identify photo locations with striking accuracy
  • Why the "em dash" has become a telltale sign of AI-generated content
  • The significance of "presence" as the new P in marketing 
  • How dark factories are revolutionizing manufacturing with robot-only operations
  • Why brands need to follow the "Play, Pilot, Proof" framework 
  • How spatial computing is transforming from smartphone-based AR to wearable devices 
  • The implications of viral AI trends for privacy and data collection
  • The potential impact of AI replacing white-collar workers and C-suite executives
  • How brands can leverage AR for marketing with conversion rate increases of up to 320%


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Tom Emrich Bio

Tom Emrich is a pioneering product leader in spatial computing with over 15 years of experience in AR, VR, and wearables. He’s helped shape the future of human-technology interaction through roles at Meta and Niantic, where he led AR platform strategy, launched industry-first AR Ads, and introduced mixed reality experiences. As the author of The Next Dimension, Tom offers a definitive guide to using AR for business growth. He’s also an investor, startup advisor, and ecosystem builder, known for founding We Are Wearables and co-producing AWE. A recognized thought leader, Tom’s insights have been featured in Forbes, CNN, and The New York Times.


Tom Emrich on LinkedIn

Buy the Next Dimension here


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 04:45 AI Trends: From Studio Ghibli to Dogs as Humans
  • 08:25 ChatGPT's Photo Location Detection: Privacy Concerns Revealed
  • 17:35 The Em Dash: How to Spot AI-Generated Content
  • 25:30 Should You Say "Please" and "Thank You" to AI?
  • 35:38 Interview: Tom Emrich on The Next Dimension of AR Marketing
  • 40:51 How AR is Transforming the Marketing Funnel
  • 44:29 The Evolution of Spatial Computing Hardware
  • 50:13 "Presence" - The New P in Marketing
  • 56:10 Humanoid Robots and Dark Factories: The Future of Manufacturing


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Trending in Tech: AI, Gaming, Fashion’s High-Tech Future, Vibe Coding, and More with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Special Guest Melissa Medina13 Aug 202501:02:51

Cathy and Lee are on leave this month, and August is Greatest Hits time on TechMagic as we pull out some special episodes from our vault. In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore cutting-edge innovations, from AI agents to Meta’s fashion-forward Ray-Ban smart glasses. Special guest Melissa Medina, CEO of eMerge Americas, discusses South Florida’s rise as a global tech hub and previews their upcoming conference featuring industry leaders like Palmer Luckey and Daymond John. The hosts also dive into gaming news from GDC, NVIDIA’s latest advancements, and the evolution of "vibe coding" in software development. Packed with industry insights and engaging discussions, this episode is a must-listen for tech enthusiasts, developers, and innovation leaders alike.


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Melissa Medina Bio


Melissa Medina Jiménez is the co-founder, CEO, and President of eMerge Americas, a venture-backed platform transforming Miami into a global tech hub. Under her leadership, the annual eMerge Americas conference has grown to attract 20,000+ attendees from over 50 countries. A University of Florida graduate, Melissa also studied at ESADE in Barcelona. She is a partner at Medina Ventures and leads the Medina Family Foundation. Passionate about innovation and community impact, she champions Miami’s tech growth while raising her five children.


Melissa Medina on LinkedIn

eMerge Americas Website


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler
  • 02:09 The Hidden Musical Talents of Tech Leaders - Lee's Harmonica Journey
  • 06:55 Inside DC's Tech Scene: AI Summit & Chip Diplomacy Discussions 
  • 13:14 The Global AI Race: Who Will Be #3 After US and China?
  • 19:35 South by Southwest 2024: Music Takes Center Stage
  • 31:02 Gaming Industry Updates: GDC Preview & Nintendo Switch News
  • 38:37 Meta's Fashion Future: Partnership with Coperni for Smart Glasses
  • 43:25 The Rise of AI Agents: From Simple Tasks to Complex Automation
  • 53:54 The Evolution of Coding: From Machine Language to AI-Assisted Development
  • 1:00:19 Special Interview: Melissa Medina on Miami's Tech Transformation
  • 1:11:53 Key Takeaways & Looking Ahead to Future Tech Developments


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AI Scandals, Scam Ads, Cannes Lions, DM9 and Integrity: Ryan Joe, Rebecca Stewart, and Audrey Kemp Break It Down06 Aug 202500:26:00

While TechMagic hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler are on vacation, they spotlight a must-hear episode of Adspeak by Adweek. In this episode, Ryan Joe speaks with Adweek’s Rebecca Stewart and Audrey Kemp to unpack the fallout from Cannes Lions 2023, where AI-manipulated case studies led to major award revocations, most notably involving agency DM9. The trio explores how AI is reshaping creative submissions, the ethics of “scam ads,” and the introduction of new global integrity standards. For marketers, creatives, and agency leaders, this episode offers an urgent look into the future of advertising awards in an AI-driven world.


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Ryan Joe Bio

Ryan Joe is the Editor-in-Chief of Adweek, serving as the episode's primary host. With deep industry knowledge, he guides the discussion on award integrity and evolving standards in advertising recognition, particularly in light of recent controversies involving AI and creative submissions.

Ryan Joe on LinkedIn


Rebecca Stewart Bio

Rebecca Stewart is the Brand Editor at Adweek, bringing extensive expertise in advertising awards and industry recognition programs. Her in-depth knowledge of the Cannes Lions ecosystem and award evaluation processes provides valuable context on both historical practices and emerging challenges in creative recognition.

Rebecca Stewart on LinkedIn


Audrey Kemp Bio

Audre Kemp is Adweek's Agency Reporter, specializing in investigating and reporting on industry developments. Her detailed coverage of the DM9 controversy and subsequent changes to Cannes Lions' integrity standards offers crucial insights into the evolving landscape of advertising awards and accountability.

Audrey Kemp on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic's Special Episode
  • 02:51 Understanding the Cannes Lions Award Hierarchy
  • 06:17 Inside the Award Submission Process
  • 09:38 The Rise of "Cannes Bait" and Scam Ads
  • 12:48 DM9's AI Scandal: How It Unfolded
  • 18:20 New Global Integrity Standards at Cannes
  • 21:45 Balancing Creativity with Commercial Impact
  • 24:48 Final Thoughts: The Future of Industry Awards


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Meta’s Neural Bracelet, Nintendo Switch 2, Apple’s Liquid Glass, Food Insecurity Tech, and AI Metadata with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Johanna Salazar30 Jul 202500:54:07

In the season finale of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the latest tech trends, from  Meta’s neural interface bracelet and Apple’s liquid glass UI redesign to Nintendo Switch 2’s record-breaking launch. They’re joined by special guest Johanna Salazar, co-founder of FoodStream Network, who shares her mission to build human-centered tech that addresses food insecurity and fosters community. 


The episode also explores pressing topics, including metadata copyright in AI training, the future of voice communication, and why inclusive, bilingual platforms are crucial in today’s global digital ecosystem. With industry insights and bold predictions, Cathy, Lee, and Johanna offer a powerful close to the season and tease what’s ahead when the show returns in September.


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Johanna Salazar Bio


Johanna Salazar is a media executive, tech founder, and strategist with over 20 years of experience leading innovation at Viacom, MTV, Paramount, and IMG. She oversaw national production for MLS Season Pass on AppleTV and has built high-performing teams across global media and tech. As Co-Founder of FoodStream Network and Two Goats, she blends emerging tech, content, and community to drive impact. Born in Colombia, Johanna hosts The Media Machine podcast and champions systems that serve people and the planet.


Johanna Salazar on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to TechMagic Season 2 Finale
  • 01:30 The Evolution of Tech: From VR to AI's Dominance
  • 11:45 Meta's Neural Interface & The Future of Wearable Tech
  • 16:35 Nintendo Switch 2: Breaking Sales Records Despite Limited Launch
  • 22:15 Interview with Johanna Salazar: From Media to Tech Innovation
  • 27:14 The Four Pillars Framework: Profits, Process, People & Planet
  • 30:51 FoodStream Network: Building Tech Solutions for Food Security
  • 40:25 Apple's Liquid Glass UI: Design Challenges and Vision Pro Connection
  • 48:05 AI Fatigue & The Metadata Copyright Question
  • 54:49 Looking Ahead: Space Communications & Season 3 Preview
  • 56:47 Manhattan Jazz Quintet & Season Finale Sign-off


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Mixed Reality Headsets, Jason Momoa’s CPG Pivot, NASA x Oakley, Gen Z Careers, and Gaming AI with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Jeff Shardell23 Jul 202501:00:50

On this TechMagic episode, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler welcome Jeff Shardell, founder and CEO of Humble Brands, to hear about his journey from leading at Google to redefining sustainability in the CPG world. Jeff shares how his tech background shaped his approach to eco-friendly product design, scaling consumer goods, and building an authentic celebrity partnership with Jason Momoa. 


Cathy and Lee also dive into cutting-edge mixed reality news, from ByteDance’s lightweight Pico headset to Oakley’s NASA visor collaboration. Plus, how Gen Z’s gaming habits are reshaping career paths. With updates on AI’s impact on gaming jobs and Roblox’s new adult dating features, this episode bridges the worlds of innovation, sustainability, and immersive tech. The hosts also preview what’s coming in Season 3 after their summer break.


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Jeff Shardell Bio


Jeff Shardell is the CEO and Founder of Humble Brands, a sustainable personal care company known for its natural deodorants and eco-friendly packaging. With a distinguished background in tech leadership, including roles at Google during its early growth phase and Netscape, Jeff leveraged his experience scaling companies to revolutionize the CPG (Consumer Packaged Goods) industry. He co-founded gloss.com, which was later acquired by Estée Lauder, before launching Humble Brands with a mission to create better-for-you personal care products while reducing environmental impact.


Jeff Shardell on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro and Welcome Back, Cathy
  • 04:15 Music, AI and the Future of Live Entertainment
  • 13:12 AI's Impact on Gaming: Candy Crush Layoffs & Industry Changes
  • 29:18 Jeff Shardell: From Google Executive to Humble Brands Founder
  • 35:00 Building Authentic Celebrity Partnerships in CPG
  • 40:23 Sustainable Innovation: Beyond Plastic Packaging
  • 51:35 ByteDance's New Mixed Reality Hardware & Industry Trends
  • 56:20 Space Tech: Oakley's NASA Visor Collaboration
  • 01:00:31 Gen Z Gaming Skills Becoming Career Opportunities
  • 01:07:08 Season Wrap-up & Summer Break Announcement


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AI Deepfakes, Danish AI Laws, Apple Vision Pro, Meta Quest Zoom, and Atari vs ChatGPT with Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee16 Jul 202500:52:50

In this episode of TechMagic, Cathy Hackl is on vacation so host Lee Kebler is joined by Adam Davis McGee, where they unpack the latest tech headlines shaping the future of AI, VR, and gaming. They break down Secretary Marco Rubio's call for AI regulation following a deepfake incident and Denmark’s trailblazing AI liability laws. The duo also explores Apple Vision Pro’s potential design upgrades, the unexpected Zoom integration in Meta Quest, and Nintendo’s controversial Switch 2 game key card approach. Plus, they discuss how Atari’s 1979 chess program outwits ChatGPT, revealing current AI limits. Tune in for sharp insights on the evolving balance between tech innovation and responsibility.


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Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Adam Davis-McGee Bio


Adam Davis-McGee is a dynamic Creative Director and Producer specializing in immersive storytelling across XR and traditional media. As Senior Producer at Journey, he led the virtual studio, pioneering cutting-edge virtual experiences. He developed a Web3 playbook for Yum! Brands, integrating blockchain and NFT strategies. At Condé Nast, Adam produced engaging video content for Wired and Ars Technica, amplifying digital storytelling. His groundbreaking XR journalism project, In Protest: Grassroots Stories from the Frontlines (Oculus/Meta), captured historic moments in VR. Passionate about pushing creative boundaries, Adam thrives on crafting innovative narratives that captivate audiences worldwide.


Adam Davis-McGee on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Lee Kebler and ADM
  • 03:25 AI Regulation: From Political Confusion to Real Action
  • 17:15 The Rise of AI-Generated Music and Content Authentication
  • 37:10 The Hidden Cost of AI: Electricity Bills Spike Across 13 States
  • 41:45 Apple Vision Pro: Design Missteps and Future Updates
  • 50:05 Meta Quest's Evolution: From Gaming to Zoom Integration
  • 54:30 When Old Meets New: Atari Chess vs Modern AI
  • 58:20 Nintendo Switch Key Cards: Digital vs Physical Gaming Culture
  • 01:02:00 Final Thoughts & Show Wrap-up

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My Interview with two Humanoid Robots about Love09 Jul 202500:07:09

Imagine a future where the emerging tech radically transforms human dating experiences.

On this episode of TechMagic, tech futurist Cathy Hackl explores first hand the future of love and dating in the age of AI and humanoid robots. Cathy’s experiment with AI matchmaking shows its impact and limitations on human connections. The hosts discuss the importance of preserving human interactions and communications using the AI tech.


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Cathy Hackl Bio


Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn



Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn



Episode Highlights:


  • Cathy Interviews Two Humanoid Robots - Cathy speaks with two humanoid robots on love and connection, gaining insights into how AI is responding to questions all about love 


  • The Impact of AI in Modern Dating - Cathy shares an insightful perspective about the need for human connection over dating a humanoid robot. She highlights the reality of the dating space which is to find warmth, connection and presence which isn’t provided by AI.


  • The AI Dating Models - Cathy discusses one of her experiments with AI matchmaking which was to bring two people together at a TED event she attended  and find out if they are a match, she finds out that the couple who were a match met a day prior and had experienced a connection. This result emphasized the important need for humans - connection. The future is about presence and human connection.


  • The Humanoid Love -  Cathy talks about her latest experience with dating four AIs - Chad (Chad GPT), Jim (Gemini, Google), Mateo (Meta AI), and Claude from Anthropic. She shares how much fun the experiment is and how it is shaping her view about love.



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 27:10 AI and The Future of Relationships
  • 28:08 Human Connections or AI attachments?
  • 28:44 AI Matchmaking Experiment at TED
  • 29:50 The Humanoid Love Experiment 


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Smart Glasses, Policy and State of AI in DC, Nintendo Glitches, Salesforce’s AI Leap, and Meta vs. OpenAI with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler02 Jul 202500:47:52

On this TechMagic episode, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler break down the latest trends shaping our AI-powered future, as well as the policy and state of AI in DC. From Meta’s $100M AI recruitment strategies to their game-changing partnerships with Oakley and Prada for smart glasses, the duo explores how AI and hardware innovation are converging. They unpack the ethical and emotional nuances of human-AI relationships, the rise of AI-generated content, and how companies like Salesforce are integrating AI into core operations. Additionally, they discuss the Nintendo Switch 2’s distribution challenges and Meta’s ambitious hardware plans. Whether it’s corporate AI integration, wearable tech, or the battle for AI talent, this episode offers a sharp look at the risks and opportunities driving tech’s next chapter.


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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn



Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler
  • 04:12 The Dangers of AI Relationships: Why We Need Human Connection
  • 11:18 AI Regulation Debate: States' Rights vs Federal Control
  • 15:13 DC's Rising Role as a Tech Power Center
  • 23:54 Meta's Quest 3S Xbox Edition: A Game-Changing Partnership
  • 28:40 Nintendo Switch 2's Success and Hardware Challenges
  • 36:50 Meta vs OpenAI: The $100M Talent War
  • 43:12 Meta's Smart Glasses Evolution: Oakley & Prada Partnership
  • 48:00 Coming Next Week: Dating Robots & AI Love Stories

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Dating AI, Loving Human: Exploring AI Relationships, Meta’s New Tech Partnerships, Inside AWE, and Military AI with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Adam Davis McGee25 Jun 202501:01:10

On this TechMagic episode, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the complex relationship between humans and AI, from Cathy’s immersive week dating four AI boyfriends to growing concerns around AI-generated content. Cathy dives into the strange world of vibe coding and discovers anyone can gamify the pitfalls of the dating scene. The discussion spans Meta’s new smart eyewear partnerships with Oakley and Prada, VRChat’s innovative brand integration with Sawhorse Studios, and alarming developments in military AI contracts. With Adam Davis McGee joining the conversation, the trio also shares insider highlights from AWE (Augmented World Expo). Together, they explore how AI is reshaping creativity, jobs, and relationships, while emphasizing the importance of preserving human connection and authenticity in a rapidly evolving digital landscape.


Come for the Tech, stay for the Magic!


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn

Lee Kebler on LinkedIn

Adam Davis-McGee on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 02:48 Dating AI: Inside the Experiment with Four Virtual Boyfriends
  • 08:24 The Limitations of Perfect: When AI Gets Too Performative
  • 17:22 Digital Dopamine: The Psychology of AI Relationships
  • 23:48 Tech Meets Military: The Rise of AI Defense Contracts
  • 31:10 AI Content Saturation and the Return to Human Connection
  • 39:22 Doubling Down on Human Skills in an AI World
  • 45:13 Meta's Smart Glasses and VRChat's Brand Evolution
  • 52:04 Nostalgia Goes Virtual: Classic 3D Experiences in VR
  • 56:45 Final Thoughts: Finding Balance Between Tech and Human Connection


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Meta XR, Snap Glasses, AI Dating, Apple AR, and Story Living with Cathy Hackl and Adam Davis McGee18 Jun 202500:29:53

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Adam Davis McGee dive into the cutting edge of spatial computing, AI, and extended reality. Lee is on sick leave this week and we wish him a speedy recovery! Join Cathy and Adam as they unpack Meta’s XR partnership with Palmer Luckey, Snap’s smart glasses ambitions, and Apple’s sleek AR design strategy. Cathy dives into the strange world of vibe coding and discovers anyone can gamify the pitfalls of the dating scene. The conversation also explores AI dating experiments, haptic tech in entertainment, and the evolving ethics of privacy in a spatially connected world. With insights from AWE and ILMxLAB, the hosts reflect on the shift from storytelling to “story living” and highlight key legislation shaping AI security. A must-listen for anyone tracking the future of tech-human interaction.


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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Adam Davis-McGee Bio

Adam Davis-McGee is a dynamic Creative Director and Producer specializing in immersive storytelling across XR and traditional media. As Senior Producer at Journey, he led the virtual studio, pioneering cutting-edge virtual experiences. He developed a Web3 playbook for Yum! Brands, integrating blockchain and NFT strategies. At Condé Nast, Adam produced engaging video content for Wired and Ars Technica, amplifying digital storytelling. His groundbreaking XR journalism project, In Protest: Grassroots Stories from the Frontlines (Oculus/Meta), captured historic moments in VR. Passionate about pushing creative boundaries, Adam thrives on crafting innovative narratives that captivate audiences worldwide.


Adam Davis-McGee on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl
  • 06:33 Meta's Eagle Eye: Military XR Partnership with Palmer Luckey
  • 14:05 Apple's Liquid Glass: Paving the Way for AR Glasses
  • 17:25 Haptic Innovation: Apple's F1 Movie Trailer Experience
  • 19:18 Human vs AI: Why F1 Racing Needs the Human Element
  • 22:27 Browser History Dating: AI's Latest Match-Making Experiment
  • 26:27 Snap's Vision: Consumer Smart Glasses Coming in 2026
  • 31:27 From Storytelling to Story Living: ILMxLAB's Immersive Future
  • 33:54 Closing Thoughts: Summer Break Announcement


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Beyond the Hype: AI, AR, Spatial Computing and the Next Wave of Innovation with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Sandy Carter11 Jun 202500:46:26

On this TechMagic Greatest Hits episode, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler welcome AI thought leader Sandy Carter, author of AI First, Human Always, and COO of Unstoppable Domains for a deep dive into AI-driven leadership and technological transformation. They break down the latest innovations, from Apple’s Vision Pro developer workshop to Meta’s bold moves in AR and spatial computing. Sandy shares expert insights on how business leaders can embrace AI while staying human-centric. Plus, hear exclusive details on her upcoming SXSW keynote. Whether you're an entrepreneur, tech enthusiast, or AI pioneer, this episode is packed with game-changing knowledge you won’t want to miss.


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Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro & Welcome to TechMagic
  • 01:18 Inside Apple's Vision OS Developer Workshop Experience 
  • 04:13 Apple Vision Pro: Beyond the Initial Sales Numbers
  • 07:07 The Future of Apple's Spatial Computing Strategy
  • 13:35 Meta's Latest Developments in AI and XR
  • 20:51 Meta's AR Glasses and $50M Creator Fund Discussion
  • 26:05 Nostalgia: Early Days of VR Development
  • 30:06 Interview with Sandy Carter: AI First, Human Always
  • 37:40 Transforming Business Leadership in the AI Era
  • 42:28 Making AI Accessible for Companies of All Sizes
  • 47:07 Innovation in AI Content: The Living Book Concept
  • 50:52 Where to Find Sandy Carter's Work & Resources
  • 52:13 Key Takeaways & Closing Thoughts

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Vibe Coding, AI Journalism, XR Warfare, AI App Building, and Apple Gaming with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler04 Jun 202500:43:44

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the latest breakthroughs in AI and their ripple effects across industries. Cathy dives into the strange world of vibe coding and discovers anyone can gamify the pitfalls of the dating scene. They discuss how AI democratizes app creation, they examine Business Insider’s bold move toward a 70% AI-driven newsroom, Apple’s strategic push into gaming, and XR military collaborations from Meta and Microsoft. From wearable AI to the future of digital work, Cathy and Lee offer a sharp, balanced look at how AI is reshaping our world.

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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 03:45 The Rise of Vibe Coding: Non-Developers Creating Sophisticated Apps
  • 15:30 Business Insider's AI Adoption and the Future of Journalism
  • 25:45 The Hidden Cost of Replacing Entry-Level Jobs with AI
  • 35:20 Social Media's Evolution in the Age of AI Content
  • 45:15 Apple's Gaming Strategy: Studio Acquisition and Platform Development
  • 55:30 XR Military Contracts: Meta, Microsoft, and Palmer Luckey's Partnership
  • 01:05:00 Next Week at AWE: Live Broadcasting and Upcoming Conversations


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AI in Retail, Wearable Tech, Distributed Commerce, and Roblox Fashion with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Dina Fierro28 May 202501:03:54

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler reunite to explore the latest in AI, tech hardware, and digital retail with special guest Dina Fierro, an Advisor and Fractional Marketing Leader. From Roblox’s real-world commerce integration to Google’s new XR glasses, the trio dives into how AI transforms distributed commerce, digital fashion, and the consumer experience. They also unpack wearable tech trends, spatial computing, and the ethical frontiers of AI-powered content creation. Whether you're a tech leader or brand builder, this episode delivers sharp insights on where innovation meets human connection in the future of retail.


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Dina Fierro Bio

Dina Fierro is a visionary marketing leader with over 15 years of experience at the intersection of beauty, fashion, culture, and technology. She has held senior roles at Christian Louboutin, NARS, and Shiseido Americas, where she led groundbreaking digital initiatives across AI, social commerce, and mixed reality. Known for blending creativity with innovation, Dina has launched industry-first experiences on platforms like Roblox and TikTok. A sought-after speaker, mentor, advisor, and fractional marketing leader, she helps brands translate cultural shifts into strategic, consumer-centric growth.

Dina Fierro on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler
  • 03:00 Adventures in Big Sur: When Google Maps Leads You Astray
  • 04:30 Exploring Japan: Robotics, Culture and Innovation
  • 14:01 The YouTube AI Content Crisis: A New Era of Disinformation
  • 20:13 AI in the Workplace: Why Companies Shouldn't Replace Humans
  • 32:04 Interview with Dina Fierro: The Future of Retail & Commerce
  • 34:21 The Evolution of Distributed Commerce
  • 46:11 Future-Proofing Brand Strategy in the AI Era
  • 54:12 The Fashion Challenge of Wearable Tech
  • 58:59 Texas Social Media Laws & Gaming Platforms
  • 01:02:31 The ChatGPT Coffee Ground Divorce Story
  • 01:08:36 Book Recommendations & Looking Ahead to AWE


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TechMagic Greatest Hits: Meta, Apple, XR Trends, the Future of Spatial Computing, and Creator Evolution with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler21 May 202501:09:18

In this Greatest Hits episode of Tech Magic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into the latest tech developments, from Meta's bold moves in AR to Apple's Vision Pro journey one year later.  They highlight Meta's success with Ray-Ban AI glasses, Apple’s challenges in AR innovation, and how creators are evolving into media moguls. Cathy also interviews special guest Jeff Barrett, who shares insights on building sustainable creator careers, the rise of nano-influencers, and the global expansion of digital content platforms. Whether you’re into cutting-edge tech or the creator economy, this episode captures 2025’s emerging trends.


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Jeff Barrett Bio

Jeff Barrett serves as the Chief Evangelist at the Shorty Awards, where he's been involved with the organization for 10 years. A former Shorty Award winner for Best Business Blogger, Barrett has evolved from a creator to an agency leader, demonstrating the possible progression within the creator economy. His journey began uniquely on MySpace and included creating a successful parody account on Twitter that inadvertently led to legitimate recognition in the marketing world. Barrett currently hosts the Shorty Awards show and runs a podcast called "It's No Fluke," which has produced over 130 episodes featuring leaders from major companies like Google, Meta, and the NFL.


Jeff Barrett on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics


  • 00:00 -  Intro & Tech News Overview
  • 02:50 -  The Future of American XR: Competition and Innovation
  • 11:15 -  Meta's Metaverse Strategy: Make or Break Year
  • 28:18 -  Apple Vision Pro: One Year Later
  • 41:24 -  Interview with Jeff Barrett: The Evolution of the Shorty Awards
  • 47:32 -  The Creator Economy: Trends and Future Growth
  • 53:27 -  Building Sustainable Creator-Brand Partnerships
  • 01:02:34 -  Creator Identity & Platform Evolution
  • 01:07:55 -  Final Thoughts & Media Recommendations


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Love in the Age of AI: Cathy Hackl with Samantha G Wolfe on Dating, Ethics, and Cathy’s Tech Intimacy Scale14 May 202500:54:45

In this episode of TechMagic, host Cathy Hackl is joined by Samantha G Wolfe, founder of PitchFWD and NYU adjunct professor, to explore how AI and emerging tech are redefining relationships. From AI-generated love letters to dating in virtual environments, they examine the evolving boundaries between authentic connection and digital convenience. The duo discusses the ethics of emotional AI, the importance of human messiness, and the need for “non-AI pledges” in romance. Packed with Cathy’s real-world experiments and and insightful commentary, this episode is essential for anyone navigating love, intimacy, and connection in a world increasingly shaped by technology.


What you will learn:

  • How AI companions are being used beyond loneliness relief
  • Why the "messiness" of human relationships remains valuable 
  • How to navigate the balance between technology-enhanced and authentic human connections in modern dating using Cathy’s Tech Intimacy Scale
  • The emerging challenges of AI-generated messages in relationships
  • Why creating "non-AI relationship pledges" might become important 
  • How spatial computing and 3D interactions could transform the future of digital dating and what Cathy’s building to disrupt this space 
  • Why human presence and in-person connections remain crucial 


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Samantha G Wolfe Bio

Samantha G Wolfe is the founder of Pitch Forward and an adjunct professor at NYU, where she teaches pioneering courses on avatars, AI agents, and virtual beings. With a background in psychology, television, and emerging tech, Sam specializes in brand strategy for bleeding-edge technologies, helping visionary companies clearly articulate their value and future impact. Her expertise spans AI, spatial computing, XR, haptics, and metaverse innovation across 20+ industries. Known for her clarity, depth, and contagious enthusiasm, she bridges the gap between innovation and understanding through thought leadership, marketing strategy, and education, empowering the world to grasp the true potential of tomorrow’s tech.


Samantha G Wolfe on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic: Special Episode on Tech, Love & Life
  • 02:47 Dating in the Age of AI: Government Restrictions and Digital Romance
  • 12:20 Beyond Loneliness: The Many Reasons People Use AI Companions
  • 16:05 The Value of Human "Messiness" in Relationships
  • 21:00 Reimagining Digital Dating Through 3D Presence
  • 38:15 The Non-AI Relationship Pledge: Setting Digital Boundaries
  • 44:53 The Tech Intimacy Scale: Finding Balance in Modern Love
  • 50:20 Dating AI Chatbots: A Week-Long Experiment Preview
  • 58:54 Closing Thoughts: The Future of Human Connection

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GTA 6 Delay, Meta’s AI Ads, Deepfake Laws, Meta Ray-Ban Privacy, and Spotify’s AI DJ with Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee07 May 202500:45:40

In this episode of TechMagic, Cathy Hackl shares an exciting announcement, whilst co-hosts Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee dissect the latest shifts in AI, gaming, and digital privacy. From the delayed launch of Grand Theft Auto 6 to Meta’s controversial AI-driven ad strategies, the duo tackles pressing ethical, legal, and technological questions. They explore Visa’s investment in AI agents, Spotify’s AI DJ, and the societal impact of chatbots and deepfake legislation. With candid insights and sharp analysis, Lee and ADM shed light on the balance between innovation and responsibility, highlighting how AI reshapes industries, public trust, and the digital future.


What you will learn:

  • Why GTA 6's delay to 2026 signals broader challenges in game development timelines
  • How Meta's AI-powered advertising strategy could revolutionize digital marketing 
  • Why AI chatbots present significant safety concerns for minors 
  • The implications of new US legislation targeting deep fake pornography 
  • How Visa's AI agent payment system could transform automated purchasing behaviors
  • Why Meta Ray-Ban's default AI privacy settings raise significant data concerns
  • How AI models prioritize objectives over truthfulness, with accuracy rates below 50%
  • Why AI-generated evidence in legal proceedings requires new regulatory frameworks
  • The impact of Spotify's AI DJ feature on the future of personalized music curation
  • The challenges of training AI on potentially compromised or biased internet data

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Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Introduction & Birthday Greetings for Cathy
  • 01:36 AI's Impact on Tech: A Bumpy Road Ahead
  • 05:10 GTA 6 Delay & Roblox Brand Partnerships
  • 07:14 AI Chatbots: Safety Concerns for Young Users
  • 13:09 Google's Responsible Approach to AI Development
  • 14:29 New Legislation on Deepfake Content
  • 19:55 AI-Generated Evidence in Legal Proceedings
  • 24:25 The Truth Problem: AI's Accuracy Below 50%
  • 28:23 Training AI on Internet Data: Garbage In, Garbage Out
  • 30:58 Visa's AI Shopping Assistant Plans
  • 36:09 Meta's AI-Powered Advertising Revolution
  • 43:24 Meta Ray-Ban Privacy Settings Update
  • 45:37 AI DJs & The Future of Music Curation
  • 51:20 Closing Thoughts & Next Week's Preview

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Embedded Finance, Digital Wallets, AI Agents, and Payment Innovation in 2025 with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Special Guest Nabil Manji30 Apr 202501:09:06

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the cutting-edge innovations transforming finance and commerce in 2025. Along with special guest Nabil Manji, SVP of Fintech Growth at Worldpay, the trio discusses the rise of digital wallets and embedded finance, as well as the power of AI agents and real-time payments. They explore how technology is redefining money movement on a global scale and tackle the impact of quantum computing on payment security. They look at the challenges of AI safety and what companies like Shopify are doing to lead the charge. A must-listen for anyone curious about the future of fintech.


What you will learn:

  • How digital wallets are transforming global commerce
  • Why embedded finance is revolutionizing delivery of financial services to customers
  • The evolution of real-time payments across different global markets 
  • How AI agents are reshaping commerce through automated purchasing 
  • Why stablecoins are emerging as a crucial tool for cross-border payments 
  • The impact of quantum computing on payment security 
  • The challenges facing traditional retail experiences 
  • Current concerns around AI chatbots and the need for stronger safety measures
  • The growing pains of emerging tech trends, from Nintendo's preorder challenges to Meta's AI controversies


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Nabil Manji Bio

Nabil Manji is the Senior Vice President and Head of Fintech Growth and Financial Partnerships at Worldpay, where he leads strategic initiatives in emerging payment technologies and financial partnerships. With extensive experience in the payments industry, he oversees how Worldpay collaborates with banks, fintech companies, and card networks to shape the future of money movement. His expertise in payment infrastructure and involvement in Worldpay's Global Payments Report make him uniquely qualified to discuss how technological innovations are transforming the way we think about and handle transactions in an increasingly digital world. His strategic vision for the intersection of technology and finance provides valuable insights for businesses and professionals interested in the future of payments and financial technology.


Nabil Manji on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler
  • 02:44 AI & Mental Health: The Rise of Digital Therapy Solutions
  • 09:51 Nintendo Switch 2: When Preorders Go Wrong
  • 18:06 Slate Auto: Reimagining the Electric Truck
  • 25:44 The Three Pillars of AI in Payments with Nabil Manji
  • 39:37 Digital Wallets: The Evolution of Modern Payment Methods
  • 46:20 Cryptocurrency as Payment Infrastructure
  • 49:20 Understanding Embedded Commerce & Finance
  • 53:57 Quantum Computing's Impact on Payment Security
  • 01:03:47 Meta AI Controversy: Safety Concerns & Celebrity Voices

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AI Photo Tracking, AR Marketing, Spatial Computing, and Humanoid Robots with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Special Guest Tom Emrich23 Apr 202501:06:21

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack viral AI trends, privacy concerns with ChatGPT's photo location capabilities, and the future of spatial computing with special guest Tom Emrich, author of "The Next Dimension." They discuss the marketing power of augmented reality, including Avon’s 320% sales boost, and examine the evolution from smartphone-based AR to smart glasses and mixed reality. Tom introduces the “Play, Pilot, Proof” framework and explains why “presence” is the new P in marketing. It’s a compelling look at how digital and physical worlds are converging fast.


What you will learn:

  • How AI tools like ChatGPT can identify photo locations with striking accuracy
  • Why the "em dash" has become a telltale sign of AI-generated content
  • The significance of "presence" as the new P in marketing 
  • How dark factories are revolutionizing manufacturing with robot-only operations
  • Why brands need to follow the "Play, Pilot, Proof" framework 
  • How spatial computing is transforming from smartphone-based AR to wearable devices 
  • The implications of viral AI trends for privacy and data collection
  • The potential impact of AI replacing white-collar workers and C-suite executives
  • How brands can leverage AR for marketing with conversion rate increases of up to 320%


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Tom Emrich Bio

Tom Emrich is a pioneering product leader in spatial computing with over 15 years of experience in AR, VR, and wearables. He’s helped shape the future of human-technology interaction through roles at Meta and Niantic, where he led AR platform strategy, launched industry-first AR Ads, and introduced mixed reality experiences. As the author of The Next Dimension, Tom offers a definitive guide to using AR for business growth. He’s also an investor, startup advisor, and ecosystem builder, known for founding We Are Wearables and co-producing AWE. A recognized thought leader, Tom’s insights have been featured in Forbes, CNN, and The New York Times.

Tom Emrich on LinkedIn

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Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 04:45 AI Trends: From Studio Ghibli to Dogs as Humans
  • 08:25 ChatGPT's Photo Location Detection: Privacy Concerns Revealed
  • 17:35 The Em Dash: How to Spot AI-Generated Content
  • 25:30 Should You Say "Please" and "Thank You" to AI?
  • 35:38 Interview: Tom Emrich on The Next Dimension of AR Marketing
  • 40:51 How AR is Transforming the Marketing Funnel
  • 44:29 The Evolution of Spatial Computing Hardware
  • 50:13 "Presence" - The New P in Marketing
  • 56:10 Humanoid Robots and Dark Factories: The Future of Manufacturing

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Cathy Takes the TED Stage, Nokia Bells Labs Centennial, Google XR Glasses, Sam Altman’s IP Stance, Global Tariffs, and VR Gaming Trends with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler16 Apr 202500:57:03

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the latest from the TED conference, including Cathy’s AI matchmaking experiment and Google's XR glasses demo. They explore OpenAI CEO Sam Altman’s controversial take on intellectual property, the growing urgency for AI regulation, and how international tariffs reshape tech manufacturing. The duo also dives into evolving gaming platforms like Among Us 3D and Meta’s Horizon tools, raising key questions around privacy, education, and empathy in leadership. It's a wide-ranging, thought-provoking discussion on where technology is headed—and how society can keep pace.


Episode Highlights:


  • Google’s XR Glasses and the Rise of AI-Powered Memory—Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore Google’s new XR glasses, which retain spatial memory and allow users to interact with remembered environments. They discuss how persistent AI memory could redefine personal computing and digital assistance.


  • Meta, Roblox, and the Future of Text-to-3D World Building—The hosts explore how platforms like Meta and Roblox use AI to transform simple text into immersive virtual worlds. They weigh the creative potential against the risk of low-quality content flooding digital spaces.


  • Automation vs. Employment in the Age of AI – Lee and Cathy unpack how AI and robotics are displacing workers across sectors. They analyze the rising adoption of automation in manufacturing and the urgent need for education reform to ensure economic sustainability and job creation.


  • The Creative Rights Battle in AI Training Data – Sam Altman’s TED talk sparks a heated debate about AI models being trained on copyrighted content. The hosts discuss the ethical dilemma, calls for creator compensation, and how tech leaders must build fair frameworks for the future.


  • Gaming’s Evolution with Among Us 3D and Meta Horizons – Cathy and Lee spotlight the shift toward cross-platform, immersive gaming. From Among Us 3D to Meta’s Horizon tools, they explore how gaming is becoming a testing ground for virtual presence, collaboration, and digital identity.


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 04:02 Inside the TED Conference: Robots, AI, and Global Tensions
  • 15:35 The Future of Virtual Worlds: Meta and Roblox's AI Building Tools
  • 31:30 The AI Employment Paradox: Automation vs Human Workforce
  • 43:39 OpenAI and IP Rights: Sam Altman's Controversial TED Talk 
  • 50:12 AI Ethics and Regulation: Navigating New Legal Challenges
  • 57:21 Among Us 3D: Cross-Platform Gaming Evolution Announced
  • 59:13 Final Thoughts: Technology, Education, and Society's Future

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Switch 2 Strategy, Deepfake Detection, Robotics Redefined, Google’s AR, and EU’s €20B AI Bet with Lee Kebler and Adam Davis-McGee10 Apr 202500:52:41

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Lee Kebler and Adam Davis-McGee break down the most significant shifts in tech, from Nintendo’s Switch 2 delays to the EU’s bold €20B AI infrastructure push. They unpack Honor’s deepfake detection breakthroughs, Kawasaki’s quadrupedal robot horse, and tariffs disrupting major product launches. With a live update from Cathy Hackl from TED2025, the episode also explores the future of AR wearables and why four-legged robots might outpace their humanoid counterparts. Whether you're into cutting-edge gadgets or global tech policy, this episode offers a sharp, fast-paced look at what’s shaping our digital future.


What you will learn:


  • Why Nintendo's Switch 2 anti-scalping measures represent a new approach 
  • How the EU's €20 billion AI gigafactory initiative signals a shift in global tech 
  • The evolution of deep fake detection technology into a $15.7 billion market by 2026
  • Why Kawasaki's robotic horse represents a practical approach to autonomous mobility 
  • The significance of Honor's AI deep fake detection technology 
  • Why quadrupedal robots may prove more practical than bipedal designs 
  • How companies like Meta and Google are approaching AR glasses development 

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Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Lee Kebler
  • 03:20 Nintendo Switch 2: Fighting Scalpers with Smart Pre-Orders
  • 13:02 Gaming Price Evolution: From Game Boy to $80 Games
  • 15:15 Valve's New VR Headset: The $1200 Deckard Revolution
  • 22:37 Google Debuts AR Glasses at TED: Meta's New Competition
  • 34:42 EU's €20B AI Investment: Building Europe's Tech Future
  • 38:21 Honor's AI Deep Fake Detection Goes Global
  • 44:05 Kawasaki's Robo-Horse: The Future of Quadruped Robotics
  • 56:06 Wrap-Up: Next Week with Cathy Hackl


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OpenAI’s New Direction, Ghibli AI Controversy, Interactive Entertainment, Nintendo’s Next Move and More with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Adam Davis-McGee02 Apr 202500:37:08

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler break down the latest in AI, gaming, and entertainment. They discuss OpenAI’s education initiatives, the viral Studio Ghibli AI trend, and Apple’s AI strategy. Plus, get insights into Nintendo Switch 2 rumors and the rise of immersive experiences like Meow Wolf. This episode also introduces a new segment hosted by Adam Davis McGee, diving into the evolving relationship between technology and storytelling. Whether you're a tech enthusiast or an industry insider, TechMagic keeps you ahead of the curve on emerging trends and groundbreaking innovations.


What you will learn:

  • Why OpenAI's new Academy signals important shifts in AI education and transparency
  • How the viral Studio Ghibli AI trend raised concerns about data privacy and copyright
  • Why Apple's approach to AI training may prove more sustainable long-term
  • The latest updates on Nintendo Switch 2 
  • How Generation Alpha is revolutionizing dating through gaming platforms 
  • Why immersive experiences like Meow Wolf are reshaping entertainment
  • Key developments in Netflix's evolving approach


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Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic: Innovation & Beyond
  • 00:46 TreeFort Tech Festival: A Pacific Northwest SXSW
  • 07:22 OpenAI Academy Launch & Data Privacy Concerns
  • 16:06 Nintendo Switch 2: What to Expect from the Big Reveal
  • 20:22 Gen Alpha's Dating Revolution: Gaming Meets Romance
  • 23:02 Black Mirror Season 7 & Netflix's Interactive Future
  • 28:04 The Rise of Immersive Entertainment: Meow Wolf & Beyond 
  • 30:45 ADM's New Segment: Sundance's Move & The Future of Indie Film
  • 34:43 Music Spotlight: Jazz is Dead & Show Wrap-up


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AI in Drive-Throughs, VR’s Social Boom, Gen Alpha’s New Dating Trends, and the Future of Digital Ethics with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler26 Mar 202500:44:05

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into the latest tech innovations shaping our world. They explore AI’s growing role in fast-food automation, the rapid expansion of VR social platforms, and how Gen Alpha is redefining dating through gaming. The episode also unpacks Spain’s strict AI content laws, the Take It Down Act to combat deepfakes, and AI’s groundbreaking impact on healthcare. With discussions on AI copyright regulations and the future of digital interaction, this episode offers a compelling look at how technology is transforming our daily lives—and why responsible innovation matters.


What you will learn:

  • Gen Alpha Dating: How Technology is Changing Teen Relationships
  • GDC Recap: Meta's Quest Success and VR Social Growth
  • AI in Drive-Throughs: The Future of Fast Food Ordering
  • Using AI to Transform Healthcare and Patient Care
  • AI Copyright Laws: Human Input vs Machine Generation
  • Spain's AI Content Laws and Protecting Against Deepfakes


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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 4:35 Gen Alpha Dating: How Technology is Changing Teen Relationships
  • 11:25 GDC Recap: Meta's Quest Success and VR Social Growth
  • 20:30 AI in Drive-Throughs: The Future of Fast Food Ordering
  • 26:39 Using AI to Transform Healthcare and Patient Care
  • 32:54 AI Copyright Laws: Human Input vs Machine Generation
  • 39:07 Spain's AI Content Laws and Protecting Against Deepfakes
  • 45:17 Wrap-Up: Music Recommendations and Final Thoughts

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AI, Gaming, and the Future of Human Connection: Microsoft Edge, Niantic’s $3.85B Sale, and More with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler19 Mar 202501:02:07

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into the latest in AI, gaming, and digital innovation. They explore how companies can move beyond AI hype to real-world applications, the evolving landscape of social platforms post-COVID, and why Niantic's $3.85B gaming sale signals a shift in geospatial AI. They also examine Microsoft's overlooked accessibility tech, AI-powered gaming coaches, and the rising battle for AR dominance. With sharp insights and candid analysis, this discussion unpacks the most pressing trends shaping the future of technology and human connection.


Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic: Innovation, AI & Everything In Between
  • 02:34 Microsoft Edge's Surprising Text-to-Speech Revolution
  • 08:38 The Rise of IRL Connection in a Digital Age: Base.club & Beyond
  • 23:12 Debating Corporate AI Strategy: Tools vs Hype
  • 42:11 Niantic's $3.85B Gaming Sale & Pivot to Geospatial AI
  • 44:24 Roblox Cube: Democratizing Game Development with AI
  • 46:12 Xbox Copilot & Discord's Game-Changing SDK Integration
  • 49:22 Silicon Valley's AGI Predictions: Hype vs Reality
  • 56:33 The Future of AR: Google, Meta, and Snap's Glass Wars
  • 01:06:46 Final Thoughts: Book Recommendations & Cultural Impact


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Trending in Tech: AI, Gaming, Fashion’s High-Tech Future, Vibe Coding, and More with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Special Guest Melissa Medina12 Mar 202501:02:51

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore cutting-edge innovations, from AI agents to Meta’s fashion-forward Ray-Ban smart glasses. Special guest Melissa Medina, CEO of eMerge Americas, discusses South Florida’s rise as a global tech hub and previews their upcoming conference featuring industry leaders like Palmer Luckey and Daymond John. The hosts also dive into gaming news from GDC, NVIDIA’s latest advancements, and the evolution of "vibe coding" in software development. Packed with industry insights and engaging discussions, this episode is a must-listen for tech enthusiasts, developers, and innovation leaders alike.

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Melissa Medina Bio


Melissa Medina Jiménez is the co-founder, CEO, and President of eMerge Americas, a venture-backed platform transforming Miami into a global tech hub. Under her leadership, the annual eMerge Americas conference has grown to attract 20,000+ attendees from over 50 countries. A University of Florida graduate, Melissa also studied at ESADE in Barcelona. She is a partner at Medina Ventures and leads the Medina Family Foundation. Passionate about innovation and community impact, she champions Miami’s tech growth while raising her five children.


Melissa Medina on LinkedIn

eMerge Americas Website


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler
  • 02:09 The Hidden Musical Talents of Tech Leaders - Lee's Harmonica Journey
  • 06:55 Inside DC's Tech Scene: AI Summit & Chip Diplomacy Discussions 
  • 13:14 The Global AI Race: Who Will Be #3 After US and China?
  • 19:35 South by Southwest 2024: Music Takes Center Stage
  • 31:02 Gaming Industry Updates: GDC Preview & Nintendo Switch News
  • 38:37 Meta's Fashion Future: Partnership with Coperni for Smart Glasses
  • 43:25 The Rise of AI Agents: From Simple Tasks to Complex Automation
  • 53:54 The Evolution of Coding: From Machine Language to AI-Assisted Development
  • 1:00:19 Special Interview: Melissa Medina on Miami's Tech Transformation
  • 1:11:53 Key Takeaways & Looking Ahead to Future Tech Developments

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Beyond the Hype: AI, AR, Spatial Computing and the Next Wave of Innovation with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Sandy Carter05 Mar 202500:46:26

On this TechMagic episode, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler welcome AI thought leader Sandy Carter, author of AI First, Human Always, and COO of Unstoppable Domains for a deep dive into AI-driven leadership and technological transformation. They break down the latest innovations, from Apple’s Vision Pro developer workshop to Meta’s bold moves in AR and spatial computing. Sandy shares expert insights on how business leaders can embrace AI while staying human-centric. Plus, hear exclusive details on her upcoming SXSW keynote. Whether you're an entrepreneur, tech enthusiast, or AI pioneer, this episode is packed with game-changing knowledge you won’t want to miss.


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Sandy Carter Bio


Sandy Carter is a renowned technology executive and author of "AI First, Human Always," her seventh book published by Wiley. As a leading voice in artificial intelligence and business transformation, she has interviewed over 450 companies to gather insights on AI implementation and leadership strategies. Known for her expertise in emerging technologies and innovation, Carter is a regular Forbes contributor and featured keynote speaker at South by Southwest for seven consecutive years. Her latest work focuses on helping businesses of all sizes navigate the AI revolution, providing practical guidance on integrating artificial intelligence while maintaining human-centric approaches. Carter's experience spanning roles at major technology companies like IBM and Amazon, combined with her deep understanding of AI applications for enterprises and small businesses, makes her a trusted authority in digital transformation and AI leadership.


Sandy Carter on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro & Welcome to TechMagic
  • 01:18 Inside Apple's Vision OS Developer Workshop Experience 
  • 04:13 Apple Vision Pro: Beyond the Initial Sales Numbers
  • 07:07 The Future of Apple's Spatial Computing Strategy
  • 13:35 Meta's Latest Developments in AI and XR
  • 20:51 Meta's AR Glasses and $50M Creator Fund Discussion
  • 26:05 Nostalgia: Early Days of VR Development
  • 30:06 Interview with Sandy Carter: AI First, Human Always
  • 37:40 Transforming Business Leadership in the AI Era
  • 42:28 Making AI Accessible for Companies of All Sizes
  • 47:07 Innovation in AI Content: The Living Book Concept
  • 50:52 Where to Find Sandy Carter's Work & Resources
  • 52:13 Key Takeaways & Closing Thoughts

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Investing in Purpose: AI, Gaming, and the Future of Tech with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Richard Attias, CEO of FII26 Feb 202500:49:57

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler, along with special guest Richard Attias, CEO of the Future Investment Initiative (FII), explore the latest trends in AI, spatial computing, and gaming. They discuss the future of Apple Vision Pro, the challenges of productizing AI, and the rise and fall of Humane AI Pin. They also highlight the potential of user-generated content (UGC) in gaming, with a focus on Grand Theft Auto VI. Richard shares his vision for purpose-driven investments and the global impact of AI and technology. Tune in to gain valuable insights into how these developments impact global competitiveness and the evolving tech landscape.

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Richard Attias Bio

Richard Attias is a globally recognized strategist, producer, and CEO of the Future Investment Initiative (FII) Institute, a global nonprofit foundation driven by data with an investment arm and one agenda: Impact on Humanity. He is also the Founder and Chairman at Richard Attias, He has organized high-profile events such as the Davos in the Desert summit and the New York Forum Africa, bringing together world leaders, investors, and innovators to address critical global challenges.

Richard is passionate about purpose-driven investments and aligning capital with innovation to shape a better future for industries, economies, and societies. His work has positioned FII as a catalyst for transformative change on the global stage.


Richard Attias on LinkedIn

Future Investment Initiative (FII) Institute on Linkedin


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro
  • 03:17 Apple Vision Pro and Spatial Computing
  • 12:23 AI in the Workplace: Feature vs. Product
  • 20:32 The Rise and Fall of Humane AI Pin
  • 29:35 Gaming and User-Generated Content (UGC)
  • 43:57 Purpose-Driven Investments: Interview with Richard Attias

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