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The impact of AI on content creation, social media platforms, sports, and the future of technology14 Aug 202600:42:43

In this episode, Lee and Cathy explore the impact of AI on content creation, social media platforms, and the future of technology. They discuss the challenges and opportunities AI presents for creators, platforms, and consumers, emphasizing the importance of ethical use and innovation. Outside of their tech executive roles, Cathy and Lee are also creators. Cathy is one of the top B2B creators and a top tech voice on LinkedIn and speaker. She recently launched a Travel and Tech video series on LinkedIn, Instagram and Youtube where she travels the world and brings her perspective on global tech. Lee is a talented musician with a significant following on Instagram and gifted writer too. He recently launched Dig, an animated short story series.

Key topics

  • AI's influence on content creation and monetization
  • Challenges faced by platforms like YouTube and TikTok due to AI
  • Opportunities for platforms like Roblox and LinkedIn in the AI era
  • Privacy concerns and data ownership in AI applications
  • The role of human creativity versus AI automation
  • Legal and ethical considerations of AI-generated content
  • The future of AI in sports, music, and entertainment
  • The importance of authentic human stories in a digital world

Key takeaways

  • AI is transforming content creation but raises ethical and monetization challenges.
  • Platforms are adjusting thresholds and policies to combat AI-generated spam and maintain quality.
  • Opportunities exist for platforms like Roblox and LinkedIn to innovate and monetize differently.
  • Privacy and data ownership remain critical concerns with AI and digital platforms.
  • Authentic human storytelling continues to be valued over AI-generated content.
  • Legislation and platform policies will shape how AI is integrated into media and entertainment.

Sound Bites

  • "AI is generating so much garbage that platforms have to increase thresholds"
  • "People want to watch humans, not AI robots"
  • "Hate the system, not the technology"

Sections

00:00Introduction to the episode and guest overview

02:11Lee shares his new web series inspired by a solar eclipse

03:55Cathy discusses her travel series in Greece and personal passions

05:07The creative process and overcoming fears of rejection

07:22YouTube's monetization changes and AI's impact on creators

10:40The rise of AI-generated content and its effects on platforms

12:20Juxtaposition of real creators versus AI content for kids

14:01Opportunities for platforms like Roblox and LinkedIn

16:53The challenge of AI in music and media industries

18:20Concerns about privacy and data ownership in AI

20:18The importance of human storytelling and authenticity

23:12AI's role in sports and entertainment, maintaining human element

27:38The future of AI regulation and ethical considerations

33:54Media partnerships and trust in AI-generated news

40:55The limits of AI in entertainment and human connection

42:15Closing thoughts and call for positive stories in tech

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler is Back! 05 Aug 202600:50:14

In this episode, Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler discuss the current state of technology, AI, gaming, and the importance of human connection in a rapidly evolving digital landscape. They share insights on global tech trends, the future of gaming, and the significance of ownership and authenticity in digital media.

keywords: technology, AI, gaming, digital ownership, human connection, global tech trends, UGC, generative AI, tech landscape, innovation

Key topics

  • Current state of technology and AI
  • The evolution of gaming and UGC platforms
  • Ownership and digital rights in media
  • Global conversations on AI and quantum computing
  • The importance of human connection in tech development

Takeaways

  • Technology is at a point of recalibration, with a focus on responsible innovation.
  • The gaming industry is shifting towards user-generated content and digital ownership.
  • Global conversations on AI are expanding beyond generative AI to include quantum and material sciences.
  • Ownership of digital media remains a concern, with a preference for tangible and owned content.
  • Human connection remains central to meaningful technology use and development.

Chapters

00:00Introduction and return to podcast

02:02Ownership of the podcast and its significance

03:18The changing landscape of technology and AI

04:55Overextension and recalibration of tech expectations

07:31Global conversations on AI and other emerging technologies

10:43Broader perspectives on innovation and global tech hubs

13:19Market trends and the return of startup innovation

17:21Content discovery challenges and digital ownership

20:07The future of gaming and user-generated content

26:16The decline of physical media and ownership issues

29:03Hollywood's embrace of gaming IP and UGC

32:16Launching new gaming studios and independent development

34:05The importance of authentic innovation in tech

37:33Interesting recent tech news and societal impacts

40:43Human connection versus technological automation

44:34The impact of AI on jobs and societal shifts

46:49Closing thoughts and future outlooks

Season 2 Finale: Web3 - What’s Next?17 Nov 202200:40:42

The metaverse is still in extremely early development-it feels almost like a party that just started. How does its audience grow? How can it improve upon issues in the current iteration of the internet? Companies are focusing on a human-centered development paradigm, with an almost anti-big tech attitude. This episodes explores how Web3 and Meta can reach more skeptical audiences.


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Next-Gen Tech Talk: Rabbit R1, Hand Controls, and an All-New Spa Experience from Meow Wolf with Lily Snyder and Lee Kebler08 May 202400:53:02

In this episode of Tech Magic, with Cathy away on safari, Lee is joined by Lily Snyder to dive into a world of fascinating tech topics. From the Rabbit R1 device's clever AI capabilities to the FTC's challenge to combat voice cloning, there's something for everyone. They also explore the potential of AI music tools, discuss the Apple Vision Pro, and ponder the challenges of transitioning to touch screens. They even delve into bizarre XR devices and innovative uses of VR technology. So, join Lee and Lily as they share their excitement and curiosity about the ever-evolving world of technology. Don't miss out on this engaging and informative podcast!



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Lily Snyder Bio

Lily is a tech expert with over a decade of experience in the tech industry who helps tech professionals tell their stories, whether that’s by writing and editing books and articles or producing podcasts like Tech Magic!

She uses all her training in business analytics, SDLC, project management, and Agile Scrum to build metaverse strategies for brands, many of which are in the top Fortune 500.

Lily Snyder on LinkedIn



Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into the “splinternet” theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.

Lee Kebler on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics

  • Rabbit R1
  • AI Music Tools
  • Apple VR Pro and Hand Controls
  • Meow Wolf’s innovative spa in Austin, Texas
  • OpenAI's collaboration with the Metropolitan Museum of Art
  • Bizarre XR devices


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Meta’s Neural Bracelet, Nintendo Switch 2, Apple’s Liquid Glass, Food Insecurity Tech, and AI Metadata with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Johanna Salazar30 Jul 202500:54:07

In the season finale of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the latest tech trends, from  Meta’s neural interface bracelet and Apple’s liquid glass UI redesign to Nintendo Switch 2’s record-breaking launch. They’re joined by special guest Johanna Salazar, co-founder of FoodStream Network, who shares her mission to build human-centered tech that addresses food insecurity and fosters community. 


The episode also explores pressing topics, including metadata copyright in AI training, the future of voice communication, and why inclusive, bilingual platforms are crucial in today’s global digital ecosystem. With industry insights and bold predictions, Cathy, Lee, and Johanna offer a powerful close to the season and tease what’s ahead when the show returns in September.


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Johanna Salazar Bio


Johanna Salazar is a media executive, tech founder, and strategist with over 20 years of experience leading innovation at Viacom, MTV, Paramount, and IMG. She oversaw national production for MLS Season Pass on AppleTV and has built high-performing teams across global media and tech. As Co-Founder of FoodStream Network and Two Goats, she blends emerging tech, content, and community to drive impact. Born in Colombia, Johanna hosts The Media Machine podcast and champions systems that serve people and the planet.


Johanna Salazar on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to TechMagic Season 2 Finale
  • 01:30 The Evolution of Tech: From VR to AI's Dominance
  • 11:45 Meta's Neural Interface & The Future of Wearable Tech
  • 16:35 Nintendo Switch 2: Breaking Sales Records Despite Limited Launch
  • 22:15 Interview with Johanna Salazar: From Media to Tech Innovation
  • 27:14 The Four Pillars Framework: Profits, Process, People & Planet
  • 30:51 FoodStream Network: Building Tech Solutions for Food Security
  • 40:25 Apple's Liquid Glass UI: Design Challenges and Vision Pro Connection
  • 48:05 AI Fatigue & The Metadata Copyright Question
  • 54:49 Looking Ahead: Space Communications & Season 3 Preview
  • 56:47 Manhattan Jazz Quintet & Season Finale Sign-off


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Mixed Reality Headsets, Jason Momoa’s CPG Pivot, NASA x Oakley, Gen Z Careers, and Gaming AI with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Jeff Shardell23 Jul 202501:00:50

On this TechMagic episode, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler welcome Jeff Shardell, founder and CEO of Humble Brands, to hear about his journey from leading at Google to redefining sustainability in the CPG world. Jeff shares how his tech background shaped his approach to eco-friendly product design, scaling consumer goods, and building an authentic celebrity partnership with Jason Momoa. 


Cathy and Lee also dive into cutting-edge mixed reality news, from ByteDance’s lightweight Pico headset to Oakley’s NASA visor collaboration. Plus, how Gen Z’s gaming habits are reshaping career paths. With updates on AI’s impact on gaming jobs and Roblox’s new adult dating features, this episode bridges the worlds of innovation, sustainability, and immersive tech. The hosts also preview what’s coming in Season 3 after their summer break.


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Jeff Shardell Bio


Jeff Shardell is the CEO and Founder of Humble Brands, a sustainable personal care company known for its natural deodorants and eco-friendly packaging. With a distinguished background in tech leadership, including roles at Google during its early growth phase and Netscape, Jeff leveraged his experience scaling companies to revolutionize the CPG (Consumer Packaged Goods) industry. He co-founded gloss.com, which was later acquired by Estée Lauder, before launching Humble Brands with a mission to create better-for-you personal care products while reducing environmental impact.


Jeff Shardell on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro and Welcome Back, Cathy
  • 04:15 Music, AI and the Future of Live Entertainment
  • 13:12 AI's Impact on Gaming: Candy Crush Layoffs & Industry Changes
  • 29:18 Jeff Shardell: From Google Executive to Humble Brands Founder
  • 35:00 Building Authentic Celebrity Partnerships in CPG
  • 40:23 Sustainable Innovation: Beyond Plastic Packaging
  • 51:35 ByteDance's New Mixed Reality Hardware & Industry Trends
  • 56:20 Space Tech: Oakley's NASA Visor Collaboration
  • 01:00:31 Gen Z Gaming Skills Becoming Career Opportunities
  • 01:07:08 Season Wrap-up & Summer Break Announcement


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Digg Relaunch, AI Ethics, Online Trust, Platform Safety, and Human Connection with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Kevin Rose03 Sep 202501:14:15

In this exciting return of TechMagic in season 3, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler sit down with Kevin Rose, founder of Digg and partner at True Ventures, to explore the future of digital communities and human-first technology. Together, they discuss the ambitious Digg relaunch in partnership with Reddit’s co-founder, Alexis Ohanian, the challenges of building trust and safety on online platforms, and the disruptive role of AI in shaping content and jobs. 


From redefining how we talk about AI “hallucinations” to highlighting the rising importance of authentic human connection, this episode provides fresh insights into the evolving relationship between technology, community, and our shared digital future.


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What you will learn:

  • Building Trust in Digital Communities
  • The Power of Niche Communities
  • Strategic AI Integration
  • The Return to Real-World Connection


Kevin Rose Bio

Kevin Rose is a pioneering tech entrepreneur, investor, and partner at True Ventures. He is best known as the founder of Digg, the first major social news platform. Over his 25+ year career, he has launched and led multiple ventures, including Revision3 (acquired by Discovery), Zero (the leading intermittent fasting app), and served as CEO of Hodinkee. Rose has been an early angel investor in Twitter, Square, Facebook, and more, earning recognition from Bloomberg, Forbes, MIT, and Time as one of the most influential figures in tech. His focus today is building trustworthy, human-first digital communities and advancing the future of online platforms.

Kevin Rose on LinkedIn 1

Kevin Rose on LinkedIn 2


Key Discussion Topics:

  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic Season 3
  • 03:19 Adventures in Finland & India: Cathy's Global Tech Journey
  • 07:05 ChatGPT Drama: Checking on AI Boyfriends
  • 12:12 Kevin Rose Interview: The Return of Digg
  • 18:22 Building Trust in Digital Communities
  • 28:30 The Future of In-Person Meetups
  • 32:19 AI Integration & Human Connection
  • 39:16 Meta Connect & Smart Glasses Privacy Concerns
  • 42:17 The Roblox Safety Debate
  • 51:32 AWS vs. Salesforce: The Entry-Level Jobs Controversy
  • 59:26 Finding Balance in a Tech-Saturated World
  • 01:13:14 Final Thoughts: Gratitude & Music Recommendations

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Meta Connect, the Future of AR AI Glasses, and Neurable's BCI Breakthrough: Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler25 Sep 202400:35:13

In this episode of Tech Magic podcast, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the hot and happening events in tech, innovation, AI, and gaming. They kick things off with the Portland Retro Gaming Expo, and then celebrate Nintendo's 135th birthday, and discuss Snap's new AR spectacles and their controversial subscription model. As they gear up for Meta Connect, they predict new devices and advancements in VR and AR, alongside highlights from Twitch Con and HTC's new VIVE XR headset. They also discuss Neurable’s claimed BCI breakthrough: fact or publicity stunt? The hosts reflect on the evolving intersection of technology and entertainment. 


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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn

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Portland Retro Gaming Expo, the Future of Oculus Quest 3, and Meta’s AR Innovations: Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler02 Oct 202400:34:45

In this episode of TechMagic, host Cathy Hackl and co-host Lee Kebler explore technology, gaming, and AI developments. They discuss Lee's experiences at the Portland Retro Gaming Expo, including Nolan Bushnell's insights on Atari and the Oculus Quest 3's competitive pricing. Cathy shares her participation in a MetLife event focused on women in STEM and her excitement about Meta's Orion holographic AR glasses. The conversation covers AI's implications, recent regulatory changes, and advancements in spatial computing, culminating in discussions about future trends in tech and gaming, alongside personal anecdotes and industry insights.


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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more.

 

Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn

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The AWS Outage Chaos, Fashion's AI Revolution, Sora 2.0's Dark Side & OpenAI's Controversial Pivot with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler22 Oct 202500:38:05

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl (yep, she’s back) and Lee Kebler open Pandora’s box - the tech edition. This episode’s all about navigating tech disruptions and learning to roll with the punches. From the AWS outage and OpenAI's controversial content policies, to Sora's impact on content creation, Pinterest's AI content controls, and Apple's quiet Vision Pro updates, they deep dive into it all! The AI landscape is evolving faster than you can say the word and so are its implications on content, creativity and commerce. 


Just like Cathy’s travels from Singapore to South Africa, your favourite Tech Magic pair are jetsetting into the world of technology, offering a global perspective on where we’re heading and the ethical questions we need to address.


Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more.


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • [00:00] Intro to TechMagic 
  • [01:15] What the Hell AWS? How a Global Outage Caused Chaos
  • [04:30] Going Global: Tech Perspectives from Singapore to South Africa
  • [08:00] OpenAI's Sora 2: Questions of Purpose and Ethics
  • [14:30] Pinterest Takes a Stand Against AI-Generated Content
  • [17:00] OpenAI's Controversial Move into Adult Content
  • [25:30] Apple's Quiet Hardware Updates and Vision Pro Changes
  • [31:00] Gaming Evolution: From Atari to Interactive Documentaries
  • [35:00] Final Thoughts and Future Conference Plans


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Greatest Hits: Finding True Love is an Inside Job, Dating on Gaming Platforms, Screenless Laptops, and AI Enabled Headphones with Cameras, Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler with Francesca Hogi07 Aug 202401:10:22

Whilst Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler take a recording break over the next few weeks, we are bringing you this special “Greatest Hits” episode of the TechMagic podcast, where they discuss gaming, tech, and AI and connect with the original “Dear Franny,” Francesca Hogi, Founder of The True Love Society. Cathy and Lee start by exploring the potential of gaming platforms as a more organic and interactive way to meet and connect with others and touch on some recent hardware developments, including the world's first screenless laptop and AI-enabled headphones with cameras. The original episode with Francesca was one of the most viewed and downloaded episodes of TechMagic!


Francesca is a writer, love coach, podcast host, TED speaker, and certified matchmaker. She shares her journey from a corporate lawyer to an award-winning love coach, using online dating to develop her dating skills and eventually become a certified matchmaker. Discover the shift in online dating culture and the importance of coaching in finding love. Explore the challenges of dating apps and the impact of technology on human connection.

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Francesca Hogi Bio

Francesca Hogi is a writer, coach, podcast host, TED speaker, certified matchmaker, brand collaborator, and event curator and host. Her passion lies in helping people center love holistically in their personal and professional lives, as well as in business. As an internationally recognized and award-winning love coach, Francesca disrupts the dating status quo with her passionately pragmatic expertise on navigating modern love and making true love inevitable. In her role as a consultant, she helps her clients tell better, more empowering stories about love inside their organizations and in marketing. She has designed and hosted bespoke events for Soho House, TED, and more.


In 2023, Francesca gave a TED talk on the myth of true love and the opportunity to transcend what she’s termed “The Fairytale Industrial Complex.” She’s been a featured love expert on 12 episodes of NBC's The Today Show with Kathie Lee and Hoda, in The New York Times, Marie Claire, Harper’s Bazaar, and more. She is the founder of The True Love Society membership community and hosts the podcast Dear Franny, where she gives candid love advice. 


Francesca Hogi on LinkedIn

Francesca Hogi on Instagram

Francesca Hogi on X

Francesca Hogi Website

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GTA 6 Delay, Meta’s AI Ads, Deepfake Laws, Meta Ray-Ban Privacy, and Spotify’s AI DJ with Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee07 May 202500:45:40

In this episode of TechMagic, Cathy Hackl shares an exciting announcement, whilst co-hosts Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee dissect the latest shifts in AI, gaming, and digital privacy. From the delayed launch of Grand Theft Auto 6 to Meta’s controversial AI-driven ad strategies, the duo tackles pressing ethical, legal, and technological questions. They explore Visa’s investment in AI agents, Spotify’s AI DJ, and the societal impact of chatbots and deepfake legislation. With candid insights and sharp analysis, Lee and ADM shed light on the balance between innovation and responsibility, highlighting how AI reshapes industries, public trust, and the digital future.


What you will learn:

  • Why GTA 6's delay to 2026 signals broader challenges in game development timelines
  • How Meta's AI-powered advertising strategy could revolutionize digital marketing 
  • Why AI chatbots present significant safety concerns for minors 
  • The implications of new US legislation targeting deep fake pornography 
  • How Visa's AI agent payment system could transform automated purchasing behaviors
  • Why Meta Ray-Ban's default AI privacy settings raise significant data concerns
  • How AI models prioritize objectives over truthfulness, with accuracy rates below 50%
  • Why AI-generated evidence in legal proceedings requires new regulatory frameworks
  • The impact of Spotify's AI DJ feature on the future of personalized music curation
  • The challenges of training AI on potentially compromised or biased internet data

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Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Introduction & Birthday Greetings for Cathy
  • 01:36 AI's Impact on Tech: A Bumpy Road Ahead
  • 05:10 GTA 6 Delay & Roblox Brand Partnerships
  • 07:14 AI Chatbots: Safety Concerns for Young Users
  • 13:09 Google's Responsible Approach to AI Development
  • 14:29 New Legislation on Deepfake Content
  • 19:55 AI-Generated Evidence in Legal Proceedings
  • 24:25 The Truth Problem: AI's Accuracy Below 50%
  • 28:23 Training AI on Internet Data: Garbage In, Garbage Out
  • 30:58 Visa's AI Shopping Assistant Plans
  • 36:09 Meta's AI-Powered Advertising Revolution
  • 43:24 Meta Ray-Ban Privacy Settings Update
  • 45:37 AI DJs & The Future of Music Curation
  • 51:20 Closing Thoughts & Next Week's Preview

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CES 2026 Trends, World Models, Privacy-First AI, Robotics Demos, Future Devices with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler14 Jan 202600:30:51

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler return from a holiday break to unpack the most important ideas and innovations from CES 2026. Cathy breaks down how the AI conversation has evolved beyond large language models into embodied AI, agentic systems, world models, and on-device intelligence. The discussion spans standout demos, from attention-aware robots and immersive VR experiences to smart wearables and biodegradable batteries. Cathy and Lee also question whether AI is solving real problems or becoming an innovation theatre. We end with a forward look at 2027 as a critical inflection point for AI devices from Apple, OpenAI, and Meta.


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Cathy Hackl Bio


Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn



Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.

Lee Kebler on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics: 


00:00 Intro: Welcome Back to Tech Magic in 2026

03:27 AI's Evolution: From Language Models to Embodied Intelligence

05:30 Glasses Galore: Meta Ray-Ban Displays and Wearable Utility

09:26 Robots Everywhere: From Laundry Folders to AI-Powered Lawnmowers

12:00 CES 2027 Inflection Point: Q3-Q4 2026 Device Announcements to Watch

16:11 Innovation Theater vs. Problem-Solving: Evaluating Real Tech Impact

18:21 Trinity Vehicle and Cool Concepts: NVIDIA and Will.i.am's AI-Powered EV

20:51 Biodegradable Paper Batteries: Flint's Sustainable Solution

23:04 XR Display Glasses and Next-Gen Wearables: X Real and Gaming Integration

24:01 Attention Labs: On-Device AI and Data Sovereignty in Robotics

27:53 Why On-Device AI Matters: Global Markets and Data Regulations

29:30 IXR Podcast Meetup: Felix and Paul's Interstellar Arc VR Experience

33:32 LEGO Smart Bricks: The Future of Educational Robotics

35:44 Final Thoughts: CES as Geekapalooza and Plans for 2027

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A Peek at Our Sister Podcast, Being a Vanguard in an Established Company: Lessons from Kate Huyett, CMO of Bombas21 Aug 202400:23:41

With Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler on a recording break for the next few weeks, we would like to introduce you to “Marketing Vanguard,” our sister podcast. The word “vanguard” is defined as “a group of people leading the way in new development or ideas.” Marketing Vanguard: the podcast spotlights the people who are driving the marketing industry forward. The podcast is hosted by our friend and colleague, Jenny Rooney


This episode features Jenny in conversation with Kate Huyett, CMO of Bombas, a comfort-focused sock and apparel brand on a mission to help those in need. Many marketers will tell you that performance marketing and altruistic company missions run on parallel tracks that don’t intersect. They’re wrong. 

Listen in as Kate explains how Bombas aligns performance marketing with its company mission. Discover Kate’s transition from Investment Banking at Goldman Sachs to leading marketing at Bombas. She reveals Bombas's mission, its evolution, and innovative marketing strategies. Explore the significance of brand, collaboration, and marketing’s cross-functional dynamics. With insightful stories and future plans, this episode is essential listening for marketing enthusiasts.

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Kate Huyett Bio

Kate is Bombas's Chief Marketing Officer. Over the last five years, she has been responsible for profitably growing the company's ad spend, driving customer loyalty, and telling the brand story through both online and offline channels. In her role, Huyett oversees the company's marketing department, which includes acquisition, retention, partnerships, digital products, insights, and data and analytics.

Huyett graduated from Dartmouth College with a Bachelor of Arts in Geography & Economics. After graduating, she pursued a career in Private Wealth and Investment-Grade Capital Markets at Goldman Sachs. Over the last decade, Huyett has honed her expertise in strategically growing start-ups through a mix of marketing channels. Prior to Bombas, she served as VP of Marketing at online dating site HowAboutWe, leading the company through an acquisition, and as Director of Marketing, Americas at Transferwise, overseeing its North American expansion. 

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OpenAI’s Sora, Deepfakes, Meta Ray-Bans, AI Startup Boom, and the End of AOL with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler08 Oct 202500:36:47

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the week’s biggest tech stories, from OpenAI’s latest announcements and Sora’s deepfake potential to Meta’s sold-out Ray-Ban smart glasses. They explore how AI integrations with platforms like Coursera, Canva, and Zillow could reshape how we access and trust information. The hosts also dive into the implications of skyrocketing AI startup valuations and reflect on the end of AOL dial-up, closing a chapter in internet history. Balancing enthusiasm with caution, they challenge listeners to consider the ethical, social, and creative consequences of an increasingly AI-driven world.


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Episode Highlights:


  • The Privacy Implications of AI Video Generation – Cathy Hackl’s hands-on test of OpenAI’s Sora exposes major privacy challenges around biometric data and deepfake creation. By simply reading numbers and moving one’s head, users can generate hyper-realistic videos of themselves or others, without consent. While visuals are striking, voice replication remains flawed. Cathy and Lee caution that such tools blur ethical lines, raising urgent questions about consent, authenticity, and data ownership in creative AI adoption.


  • OpenAI’s Vision for Information Control – Lee Kebler dissects OpenAI’s ambition to centralise online experiences through deep integrations with Coursera, Canva, and Zillow. By keeping users inside ChatGPT’s ecosystem, OpenAI could redefine how information flows, but at a cost. Cathy and Lee warn that algorithmic filtering may restrict perspective diversity, amplify bias, and erode the open web’s foundational freedom. Their advice: diversify digital sources to maintain balanced, transparent information access.


  • The Rise of Consumer AR Hardware – Meta’s Ray-Ban smart glasses sell-out reveals the next leap in wearable adoption. Cathy and Lee analyse how fashion-forward design, practical utility, and accessible pricing have made AR more approachable. Positioned between novelty and necessity, these wearables hint at future accessibility, productivity, and communication uses. They stress that long-term success will depend on ergonomic design, battery life, and balancing innovation with real-world wearability.


  • The AI Investment Bubble Warning Signs – Cathy and Lee discuss mounting worries from industry giants like Sam Altman and Jeff Bezos about inflated AI valuations. Unlike past bubbles driven by retail hype, today’s surge stems from institutional overconfidence and misunderstanding of AI fundamentals. Many investors conflate general AI with LLMs, fuelling unrealistic expectations.


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 01:44 Testing OpenAI's Sora: Deep Fake Capabilities and Privacy Concerns
  • 15:02 OpenAI's Dev Day: Impressive Tools and Integration Announcements
  • 18:09 The Dark Side of AI Integration: Information Control and Filter Bubbles
  • 25:23 Apple's Vision Pro Updates and Meta's Ray-Ban Success
  • 32:41 Farewell to AOL: The End of Dial-Up Internet Era
  • 34:17 AI Startup Valuations: Warning Signs of a Tech Bubble
  • 38:05 Final Thoughts: Music Recommendations and Show Wrap-Up

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Trending in Tech: AI, Gaming, Fashion’s High-Tech Future, Vibe Coding, and More with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Special Guest Melissa Medina12 Mar 202501:02:51

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore cutting-edge innovations, from AI agents to Meta’s fashion-forward Ray-Ban smart glasses. Special guest Melissa Medina, CEO of eMerge Americas, discusses South Florida’s rise as a global tech hub and previews their upcoming conference featuring industry leaders like Palmer Luckey and Daymond John. The hosts also dive into gaming news from GDC, NVIDIA’s latest advancements, and the evolution of "vibe coding" in software development. Packed with industry insights and engaging discussions, this episode is a must-listen for tech enthusiasts, developers, and innovation leaders alike.

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Melissa Medina Bio


Melissa Medina Jiménez is the co-founder, CEO, and President of eMerge Americas, a venture-backed platform transforming Miami into a global tech hub. Under her leadership, the annual eMerge Americas conference has grown to attract 20,000+ attendees from over 50 countries. A University of Florida graduate, Melissa also studied at ESADE in Barcelona. She is a partner at Medina Ventures and leads the Medina Family Foundation. Passionate about innovation and community impact, she champions Miami’s tech growth while raising her five children.


Melissa Medina on LinkedIn

eMerge Americas Website


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler
  • 02:09 The Hidden Musical Talents of Tech Leaders - Lee's Harmonica Journey
  • 06:55 Inside DC's Tech Scene: AI Summit & Chip Diplomacy Discussions 
  • 13:14 The Global AI Race: Who Will Be #3 After US and China?
  • 19:35 South by Southwest 2024: Music Takes Center Stage
  • 31:02 Gaming Industry Updates: GDC Preview & Nintendo Switch News
  • 38:37 Meta's Fashion Future: Partnership with Coperni for Smart Glasses
  • 43:25 The Rise of AI Agents: From Simple Tasks to Complex Automation
  • 53:54 The Evolution of Coding: From Machine Language to AI-Assisted Development
  • 1:00:19 Special Interview: Melissa Medina on Miami's Tech Transformation
  • 1:11:53 Key Takeaways & Looking Ahead to Future Tech Developments

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Music in Gaming, Google I/O, and AI Hardware Expansion: An Exploration with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler22 May 202400:36:15

This week, you can join Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler in a far-reaching exploration of the recent movements in gaming, Google’s I/O conference, and Dell’s expansion of their AI-focused hardware line. 


The pair couldn’t miss discussing Google’s announcement of a new pair of AR glasses, which they debuted during a project Astra demo recently. They also return to the always-developing and always-intriguing subject of Apple Vision Pro and the reports of a global expansion. integration of Lofi Girl's music into Fortnite and the upcoming Classic event in Roblox.


With insights and opinions on these exciting developments, you won't want to miss this conversation. Plus, they even talk about a Dune-inspired suit that recycles sweat and their love for the Back to the Future franchise. Tune in now and be part of the conversation!



Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


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Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.

Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics

  • Technology and innovation
  • Gaming news
  • Lofi Girl's music
  • Classic event in Roblox
  • Google I/O
  • AR glasses
  • AI hardware
  • Content moderation
  • Apple Vision Pro
  • Spatial computing


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First Anniversary Special, Digital Design Days, Apple’s Immersive Film, SpaceX, and Adobe’s AI Advancement with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler16 Oct 202400:42:17

In this episode of TechMagic, host Cathy Hackl and co-host Lee Kebler celebrate their first anniversary while reflecting on their experiences at events like the Digital Design Days in Milan. They discuss the importance of creativity in technology, critique a new alarm clock, and dive into Apple's latest immersive film, "Submerged." Cathy shares her insights on the evolving metaverse and the tech industry's rapid changes, including SpaceX's recent successes and Adobe's AI advancements. Don't miss Lily's intriguing segment on preserving digital lives for future historians. Tune in for lively discussions on innovation and the future of tech!


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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics

  • 0:00 - Introduction and Celebrating One Year
  • 5:01 - Cathy’s Experience at Digital Design Days
  • 10:01 - A Critique of New Tech Products
  • 15:01 - Apple's "Submerged" and Immersive Video
  • 20:01 - Reflections on VR and the Metaverse
  • 25:01 - Industry Developments and AI Legalities
  • 30:01 - Dispatch from the Fringe: Preserving Digital Lives
  • 35:01 - Future Trends in Technology
  • 40:01 - Final Thoughts and Listener Engagement

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Meta XR, Snap Glasses, AI Dating, Apple AR, and Story Living with Cathy Hackl and Adam Davis McGee18 Jun 202500:29:53

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Adam Davis McGee dive into the cutting edge of spatial computing, AI, and extended reality. Lee is on sick leave this week and we wish him a speedy recovery! Join Cathy and Adam as they unpack Meta’s XR partnership with Palmer Luckey, Snap’s smart glasses ambitions, and Apple’s sleek AR design strategy. Cathy dives into the strange world of vibe coding and discovers anyone can gamify the pitfalls of the dating scene. The conversation also explores AI dating experiments, haptic tech in entertainment, and the evolving ethics of privacy in a spatially connected world. With insights from AWE and ILMxLAB, the hosts reflect on the shift from storytelling to “story living” and highlight key legislation shaping AI security. A must-listen for anyone tracking the future of tech-human interaction.


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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Adam Davis-McGee Bio

Adam Davis-McGee is a dynamic Creative Director and Producer specializing in immersive storytelling across XR and traditional media. As Senior Producer at Journey, he led the virtual studio, pioneering cutting-edge virtual experiences. He developed a Web3 playbook for Yum! Brands, integrating blockchain and NFT strategies. At Condé Nast, Adam produced engaging video content for Wired and Ars Technica, amplifying digital storytelling. His groundbreaking XR journalism project, In Protest: Grassroots Stories from the Frontlines (Oculus/Meta), captured historic moments in VR. Passionate about pushing creative boundaries, Adam thrives on crafting innovative narratives that captivate audiences worldwide.


Adam Davis-McGee on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl
  • 06:33 Meta's Eagle Eye: Military XR Partnership with Palmer Luckey
  • 14:05 Apple's Liquid Glass: Paving the Way for AR Glasses
  • 17:25 Haptic Innovation: Apple's F1 Movie Trailer Experience
  • 19:18 Human vs AI: Why F1 Racing Needs the Human Element
  • 22:27 Browser History Dating: AI's Latest Match-Making Experiment
  • 26:27 Snap's Vision: Consumer Smart Glasses Coming in 2026
  • 31:27 From Storytelling to Story Living: ILMxLAB's Immersive Future
  • 33:54 Closing Thoughts: Summer Break Announcement


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Spatial Computing, Apple Vision Pro, Enterprise Collaboration, AI Safety, and LLM Limits with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Tom Acland01 Oct 202500:49:43

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler delve into the latest developments in tech, from Meta’s hardware updates to AI advancements and parental controls. Cathy interviews Tom Acland, CEO at Dassault Systèmes 3DEXCITE. Learn how the Apple Vision Pro is transforming enterprise collaboration and why we're finally reaching the tipping point for widespread adoption of spatial computing technology. Whether you're a tech enthusiast or industry professional, this episode delivers sharp insights into the intersection of AI, spatial computing, and enterprise innovation. Cathy and Lee also discuss why current LLMs won’t lead to superintelligence and they debate the impact of AI on sports.


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Tom Acland Bio


Tom Acland is the CEO at Dassault Systèmes’ 3DEXPERIENCE division, where he drives innovation in enterprise spatial computing and manufacturing. He specialises in bridging engineering and media technology, helping clients like Hyundai, Virgin Galactic, and Deutsche Aircraft bring products to market through advanced visualization and collaboration tools. In this episode, Tom discusses Dassault Systèmes’ work with Apple Vision Pro and their 3D Live app, sharing insights on the future of spatial computing, mixed reality, and transforming enterprise collaboration.


Tom Acland on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cath Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 01:40 Meta Connect Reflections and Failed Demos
  • 06:19 OpenAI's Hallucinations: Mathematical Inevitability
  • 08:50 ChatGPT's Parental Controls and Real-World Applications
  • 13:11 The Evolution of AI Music and Creative Tools
  • 16:39 Friend.com: Marketing AI Hardware Without Mentioning AI
  • 19:13 AI Boyfriends and Celebrity Voice Clones
  • 31:37 Baseball's Robot Umpires: Technology vs Tradition
  • 34:22 Interview: Tom Acland on Enterprise Spatial Computing
  • 39:08 Dassault Systèmes' 3D Live App for Apple Vision Pro
  • 42:52 Industries Embracing Spatial Computing Technology
  • 46:28 The Future of Spatial Computing: Next 5-10 Years
  • 50:55 Balancing Innovation with User Trust and Safety
  • 54:10 Final Thoughts and Media Recommendations


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Tech Innovation, Meta’s Ray-Ban Glasses, Varjo’s Simulation Tech, and Off-Planet Farming with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler23 Oct 202400:36:01

In this episode of TechMagic, host Cathy Hackl and co-host Lee Kebler discuss a range of timely topics, from AI developments and spatial computing to space exploration and sustainability. Cathy shares her experience at the Singularity University Summit in South Africa, reflecting on the continent's tech innovation. The hosts dive into Meta’s Ray-Ban glasses, Vario’s simulation tech, and the significance of transparent innovation in VR. They also explore lunar farming, Adobe’s AI focus, and copyright shifts in publishing. Cathy and Lee celebrate marketing visionary Justin Brennan and discuss the implications of AI on creativity at the Adobe MAX conference. The episode wraps up with reflections on space tourism and future tech trends, inviting listeners to share their thoughts.

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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics

  • 00:00 - Introduction and Personal Updates
  • 07:52 - Meta News: Ray-Ban Meta Glasses
  • 11:45 - Prototype VR Headset Discussion
  • 14:35 - Vario and Simulation Technology
  • 20:19 - Industry Recognition: Justin Brennan
  • 22:52 - Adobe MAX Conference Insights
  • 28:46 - Penguin Random House's Copyright Policy
  • 31:59 - AI Regulations and Legal Battles
  • 34:43 - Dispatch from the Fringe: Off-Planet Farming


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Beyond the Hype: AI, AR, Spatial Computing and the Next Wave of Innovation with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Sandy Carter11 Jun 202500:46:26

On this TechMagic Greatest Hits episode, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler welcome AI thought leader Sandy Carter, author of AI First, Human Always, and COO of Unstoppable Domains for a deep dive into AI-driven leadership and technological transformation. They break down the latest innovations, from Apple’s Vision Pro developer workshop to Meta’s bold moves in AR and spatial computing. Sandy shares expert insights on how business leaders can embrace AI while staying human-centric. Plus, hear exclusive details on her upcoming SXSW keynote. Whether you're an entrepreneur, tech enthusiast, or AI pioneer, this episode is packed with game-changing knowledge you won’t want to miss.


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Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro & Welcome to TechMagic
  • 01:18 Inside Apple's Vision OS Developer Workshop Experience 
  • 04:13 Apple Vision Pro: Beyond the Initial Sales Numbers
  • 07:07 The Future of Apple's Spatial Computing Strategy
  • 13:35 Meta's Latest Developments in AI and XR
  • 20:51 Meta's AR Glasses and $50M Creator Fund Discussion
  • 26:05 Nostalgia: Early Days of VR Development
  • 30:06 Interview with Sandy Carter: AI First, Human Always
  • 37:40 Transforming Business Leadership in the AI Era
  • 42:28 Making AI Accessible for Companies of All Sizes
  • 47:07 Innovation in AI Content: The Living Book Concept
  • 50:52 Where to Find Sandy Carter's Work & Resources
  • 52:13 Key Takeaways & Closing Thoughts

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Trending in Tech: AI, Gaming, Fashion’s High-Tech Future, Vibe Coding, and More with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Special Guest Melissa Medina13 Aug 202501:02:51

Cathy and Lee are on leave this month, and August is Greatest Hits time on TechMagic as we pull out some special episodes from our vault. In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore cutting-edge innovations, from AI agents to Meta’s fashion-forward Ray-Ban smart glasses. Special guest Melissa Medina, CEO of eMerge Americas, discusses South Florida’s rise as a global tech hub and previews their upcoming conference featuring industry leaders like Palmer Luckey and Daymond John. The hosts also dive into gaming news from GDC, NVIDIA’s latest advancements, and the evolution of "vibe coding" in software development. Packed with industry insights and engaging discussions, this episode is a must-listen for tech enthusiasts, developers, and innovation leaders alike.


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Melissa Medina Bio


Melissa Medina Jiménez is the co-founder, CEO, and President of eMerge Americas, a venture-backed platform transforming Miami into a global tech hub. Under her leadership, the annual eMerge Americas conference has grown to attract 20,000+ attendees from over 50 countries. A University of Florida graduate, Melissa also studied at ESADE in Barcelona. She is a partner at Medina Ventures and leads the Medina Family Foundation. Passionate about innovation and community impact, she champions Miami’s tech growth while raising her five children.


Melissa Medina on LinkedIn

eMerge Americas Website


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler
  • 02:09 The Hidden Musical Talents of Tech Leaders - Lee's Harmonica Journey
  • 06:55 Inside DC's Tech Scene: AI Summit & Chip Diplomacy Discussions 
  • 13:14 The Global AI Race: Who Will Be #3 After US and China?
  • 19:35 South by Southwest 2024: Music Takes Center Stage
  • 31:02 Gaming Industry Updates: GDC Preview & Nintendo Switch News
  • 38:37 Meta's Fashion Future: Partnership with Coperni for Smart Glasses
  • 43:25 The Rise of AI Agents: From Simple Tasks to Complex Automation
  • 53:54 The Evolution of Coding: From Machine Language to AI-Assisted Development
  • 1:00:19 Special Interview: Melissa Medina on Miami's Tech Transformation
  • 1:11:53 Key Takeaways & Looking Ahead to Future Tech Developments


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Cathy at Nvidia’s GTC, Advances in Robotics, Cathy Goes Shopping with a Humanoid Robot, Samsung XR’s Future, Bored Apes Are Back and r what happened at Vogue Singapore's Next in Vogue and Singularity U South Africa Summit29 Oct 202500:54:09

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the fascinating, funny, and sometimes unsettling intersection between humans and machines. From Cathy’s “shopping date” with humanoid robot Maximus to Amazon’s ambitious plans to automate its warehouses, the hosts unpack how AI and robotics are reshaping work and daily life. They also discuss Samsung’s entry into the XR race with the Galaxy headset, the return of Bored Ape Yacht Club’s metaverse project, and innovations like direct-to-vinyl recording. With equal parts humour and insight, Cathy and Lee decode how today’s emerging technologies are redefining what’s possible, and what’s still human.


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Cathy Hackl Bio


Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn



Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 01:30 Shopping with Maximus: A Human-Robot Retail Adventure
  • 10:35 Amazon's Automation Revolution: 600,000 Jobs Going Robotic
  • 18:30 The AI Bubble: Debating the Reality of AGI and Market Hype
  • 28:40 Understanding ChatGPT's Limitations and Technical Challenges
  • 37:00 Samsung Galaxy XR: A New Player in the XR Hardware Space
  • 43:50 Amazon's HUD Glasses and the Future of Spatial Computing
  • 50:25 Bored Ape Yacht Club Returns with "Otherside" Metaverse Project
  • 54:58 Upcoming Events and a Deep Dive into Vintage Audio Technology

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Predictions for 2025: AI, IPOs, and the Future of Space Commerce, Nintendo’s Next Move, and Apple’s Big Challenges with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler27 Nov 202400:29:37

In this episode of Tech Magic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into the aftermath of a global Microsoft outage, share personal anecdotes, and present predictions for 2025 across three categories: obvious, unexpected, and controversial. Topics include the Nintendo Switch 2, generative AI, IPO trends, Intel’s potential business moves, challenges for Apple, and the evolving “new space race.” Come for the tech, and stay for the magic!


Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming.

 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics

  • 00:00 - Introduction and Context
  • 06:45 - Prediction Framework
  • 08:30 - Obvious Prediction: Nintendo Switch 2
  • 11:00 - Generative AI Trends
  • 14:20 - Unexpected Predictions: Niantic and Epic Games
  • 17:45 - Intel's Business Direction
  • 21:00 - Controversial Predictions: Apple Challenges
  • 24:30 - Geopolitical Tensions in Space
  • 29:00 - Closing Thoughts

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Murderbot Diaries | Figma Adobe merger | Bribing ChatGPT20 Dec 202301:07:38

On this week's episode, Hackl and Kebler talk about Murderbot Diaries, a Hugo Award-winning sci-fi book series. Hackl and Kebler discuss the Figma Adobe merger failure. Hackl and Kebler talk about  Marriott Bonvoy Land in Fortnite and Asgard’s Wrath 2 in VR. OpenAI suspends ByteDance’s account. Kebler tries to break ChatGPT 4. Hackl and Kebler discuss Epic, Meta, and Unity joining the Alliance for OpenUSD


Hackl interviews Nick Vinckier, Director of Corporate Innovation at Chalhoub Group.


Producer Lily Snyder brings you the Dispatch from the Fringe.


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From CES 2025 to AI Dating Coaches, Tech Trends, and the Creator Economy with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler22 Jan 202500:52:50

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the latest innovations from CES 2025, delving into groundbreaking AI developments and the dynamic creator economy. They reflect on the impact of AI on technology and society, share insights from global tech hubs, and discuss the future of dating technology. With engaging discussions on the evolving landscape of social media and the attention economy, this episode offers a fascinating look at the intersection of innovation and culture.


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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


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Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics

  • 00:00 Intro  
  • 02:44 AI RAN Alliance   
  • 05:21 The Creator Economy in Dubai   
  • 10:21 Tech's Growing Presence in Washington, DC   
  • 12:08 The Attention Economy  
  • 24:38 Emerging Tech Hubs and Global Perspectives -  
  • 44:47 The Future of Dating Technology -


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AI in Drive-Throughs, VR’s Social Boom, Gen Alpha’s New Dating Trends, and the Future of Digital Ethics with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler26 Mar 202500:44:05

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into the latest tech innovations shaping our world. They explore AI’s growing role in fast-food automation, the rapid expansion of VR social platforms, and how Gen Alpha is redefining dating through gaming. The episode also unpacks Spain’s strict AI content laws, the Take It Down Act to combat deepfakes, and AI’s groundbreaking impact on healthcare. With discussions on AI copyright regulations and the future of digital interaction, this episode offers a compelling look at how technology is transforming our daily lives—and why responsible innovation matters.


What you will learn:

  • Gen Alpha Dating: How Technology is Changing Teen Relationships
  • GDC Recap: Meta's Quest Success and VR Social Growth
  • AI in Drive-Throughs: The Future of Fast Food Ordering
  • Using AI to Transform Healthcare and Patient Care
  • AI Copyright Laws: Human Input vs Machine Generation
  • Spain's AI Content Laws and Protecting Against Deepfakes


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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 4:35 Gen Alpha Dating: How Technology is Changing Teen Relationships
  • 11:25 GDC Recap: Meta's Quest Success and VR Social Growth
  • 20:30 AI in Drive-Throughs: The Future of Fast Food Ordering
  • 26:39 Using AI to Transform Healthcare and Patient Care
  • 32:54 AI Copyright Laws: Human Input vs Machine Generation
  • 39:07 Spain's AI Content Laws and Protecting Against Deepfakes
  • 45:17 Wrap-Up: Music Recommendations and Final Thoughts

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Love in the Age of AI: Cathy Hackl with Samantha G Wolfe on Dating, Ethics, and Cathy’s Tech Intimacy Scale14 May 202500:54:45

In this episode of TechMagic, host Cathy Hackl is joined by Samantha G Wolfe, founder of PitchFWD and NYU adjunct professor, to explore how AI and emerging tech are redefining relationships. From AI-generated love letters to dating in virtual environments, they examine the evolving boundaries between authentic connection and digital convenience. The duo discusses the ethics of emotional AI, the importance of human messiness, and the need for “non-AI pledges” in romance. Packed with Cathy’s real-world experiments and and insightful commentary, this episode is essential for anyone navigating love, intimacy, and connection in a world increasingly shaped by technology.


What you will learn:

  • How AI companions are being used beyond loneliness relief
  • Why the "messiness" of human relationships remains valuable 
  • How to navigate the balance between technology-enhanced and authentic human connections in modern dating using Cathy’s Tech Intimacy Scale
  • The emerging challenges of AI-generated messages in relationships
  • Why creating "non-AI relationship pledges" might become important 
  • How spatial computing and 3D interactions could transform the future of digital dating and what Cathy’s building to disrupt this space 
  • Why human presence and in-person connections remain crucial 


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Samantha G Wolfe Bio

Samantha G Wolfe is the founder of Pitch Forward and an adjunct professor at NYU, where she teaches pioneering courses on avatars, AI agents, and virtual beings. With a background in psychology, television, and emerging tech, Sam specializes in brand strategy for bleeding-edge technologies, helping visionary companies clearly articulate their value and future impact. Her expertise spans AI, spatial computing, XR, haptics, and metaverse innovation across 20+ industries. Known for her clarity, depth, and contagious enthusiasm, she bridges the gap between innovation and understanding through thought leadership, marketing strategy, and education, empowering the world to grasp the true potential of tomorrow’s tech.


Samantha G Wolfe on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic: Special Episode on Tech, Love & Life
  • 02:47 Dating in the Age of AI: Government Restrictions and Digital Romance
  • 12:20 Beyond Loneliness: The Many Reasons People Use AI Companions
  • 16:05 The Value of Human "Messiness" in Relationships
  • 21:00 Reimagining Digital Dating Through 3D Presence
  • 38:15 The Non-AI Relationship Pledge: Setting Digital Boundaries
  • 44:53 The Tech Intimacy Scale: Finding Balance in Modern Love
  • 50:20 Dating AI Chatbots: A Week-Long Experiment Preview
  • 58:54 Closing Thoughts: The Future of Human Connection

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Digital Presence, AI-Driven Noise, Content Repurposing, Real-World Experiences, and Brand Differentiation with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and David Cash26 Nov 202501:04:08

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler break down the biggest shifts shaping tech, entertainment, and personal branding. They explore emerging trends, from real-world experiences like Beastland, to the growing influence of spatial computing, and why authentic human content is becoming a premium as AI saturation rises. In the second half, Cathy sits down with David Cash, Founder and CSO of Cash Labs, Founder and Executive Producer of Catalyst Content Haus and Head of Marketing and acting CMO of DeLorean Labs, to discuss building a future-proof personal brand, repurposing content at scale, and why founders must take ownership of their digital presence now. Together, they reveal practical strategies for standing out and earning trust in an AI-driven media landscape.


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David Cash Bio:


David Cash is the Founder of Cash Labs and Catalyst, recognized as a leading force in bringing Web3 and emerging technologies to market. After a 12-year acting career and seven years running a production company, working on campaigns for brands like Brisk, Gaviscon, and Netflix, David became an early leader in Web3, authoring the first Master’s thesis on NFTs and producing Metaverse Fashion Week. Through Cash Labs, his work has driven billions of impressions and major revenue for global brands. His newest venture, Catalyst, helps executives create high-impact, future-ready content.


David Cash on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics: 


  • 00:00 Intro: Tech Magic Returns from the Middle East
  • 00:03 Beastland: MrBeast's Pop-Up Amusement Park Phenomenon in Riyadh
  • 00:08 Apple Vision Pro & Real Madrid: The Future of Immersive Sports Content
  • 00:12 Tim Cook's Potential Departure and Apple's Need for Disruption
  • 00:16 Meta Quest 3S at Costco for $200: The VR Hardware Game Heats Up
  • 00:20 Meet David Cash: From Child Actor to Web3 Pioneer and Content Strategist
  • 00:24 Why Business Leaders Must Own Their Content Strategy Now
  • 00:27 Catalyst: Productizing Executive Content Creation Into a Luxury Service
  • 00:30 How to Build a Personal Brand Session in One Day
  • 00:33 The Dead Internet Theory: Why Authentic Voices Are Your Competitive Moat
  • 00:36 Syndication Strategy: Turn One Piece of Content Into 1,000 Assets
  • 00:37 Legacy Media Still Matters: Why Adweek and Vogue Amplify Personal Brands
  • 00:40 The Evolution of Entertainment: From Broadway to Authentic Vlogging
  • 00:43 Human-Crafted Content as Luxury: The OnlyFans to OnlyWalks Future
  • 00:44 The Metaverse Isn't Web3: Redefining Virtual Spaces and Digital Identity
  • 00:48 How Your Content Choices Today Shape Your XR Future Tomorrow
  • 00:52 AI as a Tool: When to Use Generative Tech and When to Create Authentically
  • 00:53 The "Human Authored" Label: Why AI Slop Is Making Credibility Scarce
  • 00:57 Silicon Valley's Billion-Dollar Paradox: Oracle, SoftBank, and Unsustainable Bets
  • 01:00 Hardware Matters: Why Lam Research Is the Invisible Infrastructure Winner
  • 01:03 Key Takeaways: Personal Branding, Content Strategy, and the Human Edge


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The Future of Dating and AI, Voice Technology, and Gaming Trends with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Adam Cohen-Aslatei28 Jan 202600:56:43

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into the latest developments in AI, gaming IP, and practical technology trends shaping the industry today. They explore why the current AI skepticism signals maturity, how AI solutions are moving beyond flashy features, and the rise of gaming as a prime entertainment and commercial frontier. In the second segment, Cathy interviews Adam Cohen-Aslatei, CEO of Three Day Rule, about how human-centered AI is transforming matchmaking. They discuss voice-first technology, data-driven compatibility, IRL dating resurgence, coaching as a skill, and why AI amplifies intuition rather than replacing human connection.


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Cathy Hackl Bio


Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn



Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn



Adam Cohen-Aslatei Bio


Adam Cohen Aslatei is the CEO of Three Day Rule, one of the longest-standing matchmaking companies in the United States, with over 15 years of industry experience. With a background spanning dating app development, including roles at Bumble and the Meet Group, he brings a unique perspective on the evolution of digital dating and human connection. Adam is recognized for pioneering the integration of AI-driven matchmaking with traditional human-centered approaches, leveraging over 80,000 successful match data points to create outcomes-focused dating solutions.


Adam Cohen Aslatei on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics: 


  • 00:00 Intro
  • 03:15 AI's "So What?" Question: Moving Beyond Hype to Real Utility
  • 06:22 Apple Intelligence and Gmail Show the Power of Unobtrusive AI Integration
  • 10:18 The Trough of Disillusionment: Why We're Excited About AI's Reality Check
  • 12:22 Robotic Snow Removal and Vocational Work: AI Supporting Human Infrastructure
  • 17:33 Tech Magic Transitions to New Home with Big Plans Ahead
  • 18:45 Three-Day Rule: Building AI Matchmaking on 15 Years of Real Data
  • 20:24 How AI Sentiment Analysis Detects Truth in Dating Compatibility
  • 25:28 Voice-First Technology Creates More Authentic Human Connection
  • 29:13 Why In-Real-Life Dating Experiences Beat Endless Digital Swiping
  • 31:18 Dating as a Learnable Skill: How Coaching Increases Match Success by 40%
  • 34:45 Three Day Rule's 70-80% Success Rate vs. Dating Apps' 9% Failure
  • 40:09 Gaming IP Movies and the End of Marvel Fatigue
  • 43:41 Super Mario Galaxy, Iron Lung, and the Rise of Game Adaptations
  • 46:48 Fallout Series Success: How Gaming IP Drives Video Game Sales
  • 49:51 Gaming's Hidden Economy: Slot Machines, Free-to-Play, and Esports Silos
  • 51:17 Walmart and Unity SDK: Selling Physical Products in Virtual Worlds
  • 52:04 1.1 Million Unity Developers Get New Revenue Channels

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Embedded Finance, Digital Wallets, AI Agents, and Payment Innovation in 2025 with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Special Guest Nabil Manji30 Apr 202501:09:06

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the cutting-edge innovations transforming finance and commerce in 2025. Along with special guest Nabil Manji, SVP of Fintech Growth at Worldpay, the trio discusses the rise of digital wallets and embedded finance, as well as the power of AI agents and real-time payments. They explore how technology is redefining money movement on a global scale and tackle the impact of quantum computing on payment security. They look at the challenges of AI safety and what companies like Shopify are doing to lead the charge. A must-listen for anyone curious about the future of fintech.


What you will learn:

  • How digital wallets are transforming global commerce
  • Why embedded finance is revolutionizing delivery of financial services to customers
  • The evolution of real-time payments across different global markets 
  • How AI agents are reshaping commerce through automated purchasing 
  • Why stablecoins are emerging as a crucial tool for cross-border payments 
  • The impact of quantum computing on payment security 
  • The challenges facing traditional retail experiences 
  • Current concerns around AI chatbots and the need for stronger safety measures
  • The growing pains of emerging tech trends, from Nintendo's preorder challenges to Meta's AI controversies


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Nabil Manji Bio

Nabil Manji is the Senior Vice President and Head of Fintech Growth and Financial Partnerships at Worldpay, where he leads strategic initiatives in emerging payment technologies and financial partnerships. With extensive experience in the payments industry, he oversees how Worldpay collaborates with banks, fintech companies, and card networks to shape the future of money movement. His expertise in payment infrastructure and involvement in Worldpay's Global Payments Report make him uniquely qualified to discuss how technological innovations are transforming the way we think about and handle transactions in an increasingly digital world. His strategic vision for the intersection of technology and finance provides valuable insights for businesses and professionals interested in the future of payments and financial technology.


Nabil Manji on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler
  • 02:44 AI & Mental Health: The Rise of Digital Therapy Solutions
  • 09:51 Nintendo Switch 2: When Preorders Go Wrong
  • 18:06 Slate Auto: Reimagining the Electric Truck
  • 25:44 The Three Pillars of AI in Payments with Nabil Manji
  • 39:37 Digital Wallets: The Evolution of Modern Payment Methods
  • 46:20 Cryptocurrency as Payment Infrastructure
  • 49:20 Understanding Embedded Commerce & Finance
  • 53:57 Quantum Computing's Impact on Payment Security
  • 01:03:47 Meta AI Controversy: Safety Concerns & Celebrity Voices

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Creativity at the Intersection of Fashion, Industrial Design, and VFX: Cathy Hackl Interviews Katie McIntyre11 Dec 202400:32:34

While Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler take a short holiday break, TechMagic brings you an interview with Katie McIntyre, Founder and Design Lead of Matriarch. Katie was a TechMagic guest cohost earlier in the season, and Time Magazine has ranked her as one of the leading female VFX artists and has featured her creations.


Katie discusses her groundbreaking work in feminine futurism and shares her unique approach to integrating feminist art principles into design and technology. She also reflects on her experiences at Apple and Google and the challenges of being a woman in tech. She also unveils her new brand, Matriarch, aimed at empowering women in the tech and design industries. Tune in to hear about Katie's efforts to reshape the intersection of fashion, technology, and culture while inspiring the next generation of creatives.  

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Cathy Hackl Bio


Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech and gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platform strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Katie McIntyre Bio

Katie McIntyre is a Creative Director, Fashion & Industrial Designer, Film Director, VFX Artist, Ivy League Lecturer, and Women’s Rights Advocate. As the founder of Katie McIntyre Studio, she collaborates with renowned artists like Nicki Minaj, Lizzo, The Weeknd, and Cardi B, designing iconic album covers, couture, and VFX for live shows. Her innovative philosophy of feminine futurism, which blends feminist principles with design and technology, has earned her international recognition and keynote speaking opportunities at prestigious institutions, including Harvard, Duke, and Carnegie Mellon. 


Katie has partnered with top brands like Mugler, Puma, and Nike, and her designs have been worn by stars such as Lizzo and Shenseea. As CEO of her brand, Matriarch, she advocates for empowerment through groundbreaking design and technology products. Her automotive design, Dakini, showcased by Mugler and Vogue Singapore, has made waves in the automotive industry. Named one of Time's "World’s Leading Female VFX Artists," McIntyre continues to inspire and innovate.


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Greatest Hits II: Stanley Pierre-Louis of ESA, MIT's Future Compute Event, Apple's WWDC, and Insights on the Gaming Industry14 Aug 202400:50:01

With Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler on a recording break for the next few weeks, we continue to bring you more from our special series of “Greatest Hits” episodes from the TechMagic podcast. In this episode, Cathy and Lee explore captivating topics in technology, gaming, and innovation. Cathy shares her insights from the MIT Future Compute Event and previews Apple's upcoming WWDC. She also interviews Stanley Pierre-Louis, President and CEO of the Entertainment Software Association, discussing gaming trends and their cultural impact. We also feature an exclusive chat on messaging platforms and their invitation for ramping interaction. 


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Explore ESA’s 2024 Essential Facts About the U.S. Video Game Industry. 


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Stanley Pierre-Louis Bio

Stanley Pierre-Louis has served as ESA’s President and CEO since 2019. Stan first joined ESA as its Senior Vice President and General Counsel in 2015, where he led the legal, policy, and regulatory affairs function for the association. His responsibilities included advocacy on First Amendment, technology, and intellectual property issues, as well as supervising the global content protection program. He also oversaw all governance, compliance, and contractual matters and served as the Corporate Secretary to ESA’s Board of Directors.


Before joining ESA, Stan served as Senior Vice President and Associate General Counsel for Intellectual Property at Viacom Inc. There, he was responsible for developing strategies to protect digital content, managing major intellectual property litigation, and revamping the cybersecurity governance program.


Stanley Pierre-Louis on LinkedIn

ESA Website


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Reporting Back from DLD and Davos | The Next Generation at Work | Future of Broadcasting & Gaming24 Jan 202401:12:52
AI Ads, Data Center Labor, Skilled Trades, XR Training, and Spatial Web with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler21 Jan 202600:29:37

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler, unpack the realities behind today’s AI headlines. They explore OpenAI’s shift toward advertising, the growing human bottleneck in data center expansion, and why the AI conversation is moving beyond productivity toward physical and human-centred systems. The discussion dives into the surprising earning power of skilled trades, how XR is transforming workforce training, and why the metaverse was never just about VR headsets. From VRChat to The Sims, Cathy and Lee reveal where the spatial web is quietly taking shape, and what it all means for the future of work and technology.


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Cathy Hackl Bio


Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 

Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn




Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.

Lee Kebler on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics: 


  • 00:00 Intro
  • 00:33 The Shift in AI Conversation: From Productivity to Humanity
  • 05:15 OpenAI's Financial Crisis and the Ad-Supported ChatGPT Problem
  • 11:31 Can AI Intentionally Give Wrong Answers to Keep You Engaged?
  • 13:46 The Unexpected HVAC and Trades Shortage Fueling AI Infrastructure
  • 16:34 How XR Technology Transfers Expert Knowledge to New Tradespeople
  • 20:21 Meta's Metaverse Layoffs: Why Spatial Computing Is Still the Future
  • 25:33 VRChat Breaks Records While Gaming Embraces Living Worlds
  • 26:28 Luxury Brands Return to Gaming with Coach and The Sims
  • 28:08 Bethesda Revamps Fallout 76 After TV Show Success
  • 32:31 Book Recommendations and Final Thoughts

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Tech Landscape Predictions 2025: AI, Indie Games, and the Future of Virtual Dating with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler04 Dec 202400:38:06

In the latest episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into their predictions for the tech landscape in 2025, exploring topics like AI, gaming, and the evolving role of technology in daily life. Cathy shares her optimism for the launch of World Labs and a shift in dating tech, while Lee highlights the indie gaming resurgence. They also reflect on concerns like China's influence in tech and the need for educational reform. The episode wraps up with personal goals for 2025, including health tech advancements and Lee's projects in writing and music distribution.

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Cathy Hackl Bio


Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech and gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platform strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics

  • 00:00 - Introduction and Context
  • 04:14 - Lee’s Tech Prediction for 2025
  • 06:23 - Cathy’s Prediction: AI Will Continue to be Talk of the Town
  • 08:07 - Will Epic acquire Niantic?
  • 10:35 - Will Intel Sell Part of its Business to a Competitor?
  • 13:02 - Bringing Chip Manufacturing Back to America
  • 19:40 - Prediction of Tough Times Ahead for Apple
  • 23:20 - Impact of Geo Politics on Tech
  • 29:32 - Excitement over CES

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Meta Connect, Ray-Ban AI Glasses, Amazon’s Smart Eyewear, Nintendo’s Virtual Boy Revival, and AI Superintelligence with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler17 Sep 202500:46:52

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the future of hardware innovation, from Meta’s anticipated Connect event to Nintendo’s bold gaming moves. They unpack Meta’s AI-powered smart glasses collaborations, Amazon’s push into wearable tech, and Nintendo’s surprising Virtual Boy revival. Alongside hardware news, Cathy and Lee examine the deeper cultural and societal shifts at play, and how AI-driven personal superintelligence could reshape user experience, privacy, and even fashion. Packed with insider insights, this episode highlights why hardware is no longer just functional but increasingly a cultural statement at the intersection of technology and humanity.



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Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 02:03 Apple's Disappointing Hardware Event: A Missed Opportunity
  • 06:28 Meta Connect Preview: The Hypernova Moment for AI and XR
  • 11:15 Meta's Smart Glasses Strategy: From Ray-Ban to Luxury Brands
  • 17:30 The Vision for Personal Superintelligence and AI Evolution
  • 28:00 Social Media's Algorithm Problem: A Facebook Case Study
  • 36:50 The Hardware Race Heats Up: Amazon, HTC, and Samsung Join In
  • 37:15 Nintendo's Virtual Boy Revival: A Controversial Return
  • 44:10 Smart Game Pricing: Hollow Knight's Market Strategy Success
  • 53:15 Final Thoughts: The Future of Tech, Media Recommendations, and Closing

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AI Hype Cycles, Coca-Cola’s 70K-Prompt Misstep, Spotify’s AI Slop Battle, VR’s Killer-App Problem, Pokémon GO’s Execution Edge & Digital Passports with Lee Kebler and Andrew Schwartz19 Nov 202500:49:45

AI is booming, VR is evolving, and AR is exploding into the real world—but most of it still feels underwhelming.


On this week’s episode of TechMagic, host Lee Kebler welcomes Andrew Schwartz while host Cathy Hackl is away. Andrew is the Director of Metaverse Engineering at Nike, and together, they unpack the realities behind today’s AI hype cycle, revealing why generative AI can feel both astonishing and underwhelming. They explore brand risks in AI-driven content, the fight against AI slop in music distribution, and the long road to mainstream VR and AR adoption. Andrew and Lee also break down Pokémon GO’s execution-first success and the rise of identity-based tech, from digital product passports to personalized, location-aware experiences, offering a clear-eyed look at what truly comes next in immersive technology.


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Andrew Schwartz Bio

Andrew Schwartz is a technology strategist and the Director of Metaverse Engineering at Nike, where he pioneered emerging technology integration within the Technology Innovation Office. Having coined the title "godmother of the metaverse" for industry luminary Cathy Hackl, Andrew brings deep expertise in blockchain identity, XR/AR/VR technologies, and spatial computing. 


Andrew Schwartz on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics: 


  • [00:00] Intro
  • [00:00] Welcome to Tech Magic with Andrew Schwartz
  • [00:01] How "Godmother of the Metaverse" Became Cathy Hackl's Defining Title
  • [00:03] Nike's Metaverse Engineering and Emerging Technologies
  • [00:06] Technology First vs. Outcome First: The Real AI Hype Cycle Challenge
  • [00:13] Why Coca-Cola's 70,000-Prompt AI Christmas Ad Reveals a Deeper Problem
  • [00:16] Imperfection as Strategy: When Flaws Build Brand Trust
  • [00:21] The AI Music Crisis: How Spotify and CD Baby Protect Indie Artists
  • [00:27] Copyright, Authenticity, and the Future of AI-Generated Content
  • [00:31] VR Headsets Are Impressive—But Where's the Killer App?
  • [00:34] Apple Vision Pro: Great Technology, Missing Experience
  • [00:36] Why Beat Saber Succeeded Where Other VR Games Failed
  • [00:38] Content Over Hardware: Lessons from iPhone, iPod, and Atari
  • [00:40] Pokemon Go Wasn't About AR—It Was About the Brand
  • [00:42] Super Nintendo World Shows How to Make Technology Invisible
  • [00:44] The Future of Identity: Digital Product Passports and NFC Activation
  • [00:47] Music Recommendation: SAULT, Neo-Soul, and the Mystery of AI
  • [00:49] Key Takeaways: Where Tech Magic Actually Happens


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AI Hardware Shifts, RAM Price Spikes, Google–Warby Parker Wearables, Meta’s MR Delays, and the Battle for AI Music Rights with Lee Kebler, Adam Davis McGee, and Ryan McMahan10 Dec 202501:01:42

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee unpack the rapid shifts transforming AI, hardware, and creative industries. Cathy is away this week and will be back in the new year. Lee and Adam explore how RAM manufacturers are pivoting away from consumer electronics toward AI, and how this will spike gaming and device prices in 2026, why Meta’s mixed-reality delays open the door for Google’s surprising partnership with Warby Parker, and how Google may be quietly edging ahead in the AI race. In the second half, Lee speaks with Ryan McMahan, who breaks down the legal and ethical storm surrounding AI-generated music. Together, they examine copyright grey zones, artist rights, and why AI is becoming more of an accelerant for creativity than a replacement for human artistry.


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Key Discussion Topics:


  • 01:40: RAM Shortage Will Devastate Consumer Electronics Pricing in 2026
  • 06:12: Meta's Mixed Reality Delay & the Battle Between Google and Meta
  • 11:29: Why Google Will Win the AI Race Over OpenAI
  • 23:52: AI Music Generation and the Copyright Crisis on Spotify
  • 33:28: Meet Ryan McMahan: Artist Manager Fighting for Creator Rights
  • 35:34: Blanco Brown's Story: From Platinum to Fighting AI
  • 38:50: The First Major Artist Covers an AI-Generated Song
  • 40:45: Understanding Covers vs. Derivatives in Copyright Law
  • 45:51: AI as a Creative Tool, Not a Job Replacement
  • 50:32: The Fast Fashion Problem in Modern Music Production
  • 57:31: Independent Artists Need Representation at Policy Tables
  • 01:01:45: Creative Industry Workers Share AI Concerns and Opportunities
  • 01:04:17: Meta's Consent Prompt: Is Algorithmic Boost Tied to AI Training Permission?
  • 01:05:59: Key Takeaways: AI, Copyright, and the Future of Creative Work


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AI Deepfakes, Danish AI Laws, Apple Vision Pro, Meta Quest Zoom, and Atari vs ChatGPT with Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee16 Jul 202500:52:50

In this episode of TechMagic, Cathy Hackl is on vacation so host Lee Kebler is joined by Adam Davis McGee, where they unpack the latest tech headlines shaping the future of AI, VR, and gaming. They break down Secretary Marco Rubio's call for AI regulation following a deepfake incident and Denmark’s trailblazing AI liability laws. The duo also explores Apple Vision Pro’s potential design upgrades, the unexpected Zoom integration in Meta Quest, and Nintendo’s controversial Switch 2 game key card approach. Plus, they discuss how Atari’s 1979 chess program outwits ChatGPT, revealing current AI limits. Tune in for sharp insights on the evolving balance between tech innovation and responsibility.


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Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


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Adam Davis-McGee Bio


Adam Davis-McGee is a dynamic Creative Director and Producer specializing in immersive storytelling across XR and traditional media. As Senior Producer at Journey, he led the virtual studio, pioneering cutting-edge virtual experiences. He developed a Web3 playbook for Yum! Brands, integrating blockchain and NFT strategies. At Condé Nast, Adam produced engaging video content for Wired and Ars Technica, amplifying digital storytelling. His groundbreaking XR journalism project, In Protest: Grassroots Stories from the Frontlines (Oculus/Meta), captured historic moments in VR. Passionate about pushing creative boundaries, Adam thrives on crafting innovative narratives that captivate audiences worldwide.


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Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Lee Kebler and ADM
  • 03:25 AI Regulation: From Political Confusion to Real Action
  • 17:15 The Rise of AI-Generated Music and Content Authentication
  • 37:10 The Hidden Cost of AI: Electricity Bills Spike Across 13 States
  • 41:45 Apple Vision Pro: Design Missteps and Future Updates
  • 50:05 Meta Quest's Evolution: From Gaming to Zoom Integration
  • 54:30 When Old Meets New: Atari Chess vs Modern AI
  • 58:20 Nintendo Switch Key Cards: Digital vs Physical Gaming Culture
  • 01:02:00 Final Thoughts & Show Wrap-up

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OpenAI’s $38B Deal, Hinton’s AI Shift, GTC & FiI in Riyadh, Data Wars, Meta’s Hardware, Gaming in KSA with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, Melissa Tony Stires, and Janna Salokangas.of Mia AI, Cathy Heads to TED Next and the Female Quotient’s AI Summit05 Nov 202501:02:54

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore OpenAI’s Sora and how AI-driven video generation reshapes creativity, privacy, and consent. From OpenAI’s massive $38B AWS deal to the ethical storm over data scraping and copyright, they unpack the week’s biggest tech power plays. The duo explores Geoffrey Hinton’s surprising optimism on AI’s future, Meta’s data mishap, and how companies are redefining roles through spatial computing. Plus, Lee shares insights from NVIDIA’s GTC conference and what it reveals about the true cost and promise of AI. 


The episode also features Cathy’s exciting interview with Melissa Tony Stires, Chief Global Officer at Mia AI, and Janna Salokangas, Co-Founder and CEO of Mia AI. Together, they discuss strategy-first adoption of AI, the importance of AI literacy, and the mindset shifts leaders need to drive human-centred transformation in the era of intelligent tools.


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Melissa Tony Stires Bio

Melissa Tony Stires is an international protocol expert and leadership innovator specializing in cross-cultural communications and women’s empowerment in AI. As a Chief Global Officer at Mia AI, she bridges tradition and technology through global collaborations and billion-dollar initiatives. A certified Advanced International Protocol Officer, best-selling author, and sought-after speaker, Melissa’s work has shaped dialogues from Davos to Cannes Lions, advancing inclusivity, innovation, and global understanding in the tech landscape.


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Janna Salokangas Bio

Janna Salokangas is the Co-founder and CEO of Mia AI, where she’s redefining how people and organisations unlock their full potential through AI-driven learning and innovation. Under her leadership, Mia has trained over 7,000 professionals across 65+ countries, partnering with leading institutions to deliver transformative AI education and solutions. A co-founder of Finnish Flow, Janna also champions Finland’s business community at Davos, advocating for human-centric AI and the future of equitable, empowered innovation.


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Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic
  • 00:28 NVIDIA GTC & Nokia's $1B AI Investment
  • 00:54 Geoffrey Hinton Shifts AI Stance on Job Displacement
  • 08:17 Sharp HealthCare's First Chief Spatial Computing Officer
  • 09:05 OpenAI's $38 Billion Amazon AWS Deal Explained
  • 15:17 Perplexity vs Reddit: Data Scraping Lawsuit Breakdown
  • 21:28 AI Augmentation Over Replacement: Secret Cinema's Approach
  • 26:19 Magic Leap's Google Partnership & New AI Glasses
  • 32:17 TEDx Atlanta: Alvin Wang Graylin & Industry Leaders
  • 35:45 AI Education Interview with Janna & Melissa from Mia AI
  • 37:18 Mia AI: Human-Centered AI Education Going Global
  • 42:35 Strategy-First AI Adoption: Define Problems Before Tools
  • 42:46 Real-World Success Stories: From Universities to Single Mothers
  • 47:28 What Differentiates Mia AI in a Crowded Market

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AI, Gaming, and the Future of Human Connection: Microsoft Edge, Niantic’s $3.85B Sale, and More with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler19 Mar 202501:02:07

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into the latest in AI, gaming, and digital innovation. They explore how companies can move beyond AI hype to real-world applications, the evolving landscape of social platforms post-COVID, and why Niantic's $3.85B gaming sale signals a shift in geospatial AI. They also examine Microsoft's overlooked accessibility tech, AI-powered gaming coaches, and the rising battle for AR dominance. With sharp insights and candid analysis, this discussion unpacks the most pressing trends shaping the future of technology and human connection.


Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


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Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic: Innovation, AI & Everything In Between
  • 02:34 Microsoft Edge's Surprising Text-to-Speech Revolution
  • 08:38 The Rise of IRL Connection in a Digital Age: Base.club & Beyond
  • 23:12 Debating Corporate AI Strategy: Tools vs Hype
  • 42:11 Niantic's $3.85B Gaming Sale & Pivot to Geospatial AI
  • 44:24 Roblox Cube: Democratizing Game Development with AI
  • 46:12 Xbox Copilot & Discord's Game-Changing SDK Integration
  • 49:22 Silicon Valley's AGI Predictions: Hype vs Reality
  • 56:33 The Future of AR: Google, Meta, and Snap's Glass Wars
  • 01:06:46 Final Thoughts: Book Recommendations & Cultural Impact


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Apple Vision Pro Launch & Welcome To The Era of Spatial Computing | AI Fair Use | Walmart + Unity Partnership10 Jan 202401:09:19

This episode is all about the Apple Vision Pro!


The Vision Pro is set to launch on February 2, 2024. Cathy and Lee are spatial computing veterans. They discuss the impact of this spatial computing launch news and how Apple won CES without even being on the ground at the event. They discuss the opportunities that lay ahead for professionals in the new era of spatial computing. 


Cathy and Lee segway into discussing more tech layoffs in gaming. Then they talk about AI, fair use, and journalism. Elvis Presley returns as a hologram. Walmart and Unity’s partnership brings physical goods to games. 


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Apple Event Reactions, iPhone 16, Spatial Photos, Robolox on Shopify, and Meta Connect & Snap Summit with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler11 Sep 202400:33:55

Join hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler on this episode of the TechMagic podcast as they explore what’s hot and happening in tech, innovation, AI, and spatial computing. Join them as they discuss the latest Apple event and the potential for spatial computing. They also dive into the exciting announcements from the Roblox Developer Conference and the partnerships that will shape the future of virtual commerce. As anticipation builds for Nintendo’s upcoming release and potential new hardware innovations, get a sneak peek into the rumors and expectations surrounding Nintendo's upcoming release. Don't miss out on this exciting conversation about the future of technology and gaming. Tune in now!

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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn

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Spatial Computing & AI: The Latest from Roblox RDC, Apple Event Predictions, and the Future of AR Glasses with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler04 Sep 202400:31:37

Cathy and Lee are back from their break! 🎉


Join hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler on this episode of the TechMagic podcast as they explore what’s hot and happening in tech, innovation, AI, and spatial computing. They discuss the recent Roblox Developers Conference and the growth of international creators on the platform. Get insights on the potential announcements at Apple's event and Sony's cancellation of their VR headset. Discover the shocking news about Meta discontinuing their Spark platform and the impact on Instagram filters. Explore Meta's future plans, including partnerships, AI integration, and advancements in hardware. Don't miss out on their predictions for the upcoming Meta Connect event. Tune in for surprises and interesting discussions!

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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn

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Moon Communications, Space Commerce, AI Wearables, Gaming Safety, and Global Esports with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Thierry Klein10 Sep 202501:24:18

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the future of space and digital entertainment, and discuss AI-driven space operations, Roblox’s expansion with 100,000-player servers, and Paramount’s Call of Duty film adaptation. From esports acquisitions shaping global markets to safety and privacy in AI wearables, the conversation touches on several key tech trends that are influencing our world. Cathy interviews Thierry Klein, President of Bell Labs Solutions Research at Nokia. They uncover how Nokia built the first cellular network on the moon, laying the foundation for a sustainable lunar economy and future Mars missions.


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Thierry Klein Bio


Thierry Klein is the President of Bell Labs Solutions Research at Nokia, a pioneering figure in space communications and network infrastructure. With extensive experience in telecommunications and space technology, Klein leads research initiatives focused on AI, Web3, and new device technologies at the historic Bell Labs, which is celebrating its centennial year. He has played a pivotal role in delivering the first cellular network on the moon during the Intuitive Machines' IM2 mission, marking a historic milestone in space communications.


Thierry Klein on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro and Show Updates
  • 02:20 Nokia's Innovation Campus in Finland - A Hub for Future Tech
  • 04:44 Space Technology and Lunar Networks - Nokia's Groundbreaking Mission
  • 27:36 Building the First Cellular Network on the Moon 
  • 35:36 Transforming Astronaut Operations with Advanced Communications
  • 40:41 The Future of Lunar Economy and Infrastructure
  • 48:46 Interplanetary Communications and the Space Internet
  • 55:13 AI's Role in Space Operations and Networks
  • 01:10 Roblox Developer Conference Updates and Safety Features
  • 01:19 Gaming Industry Updates: Call of Duty Movie and EVO Tournament News
  • 01:27 Wearable AI Technology Review and Future Outlook
  • 01:30 Closing Thoughts and Show Wrap-up


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AI Scandals, Scam Ads, Cannes Lions, DM9 and Integrity: Ryan Joe, Rebecca Stewart, and Audrey Kemp Break It Down06 Aug 202500:26:00

While TechMagic hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler are on vacation, they spotlight a must-hear episode of Adspeak by Adweek. In this episode, Ryan Joe speaks with Adweek’s Rebecca Stewart and Audrey Kemp to unpack the fallout from Cannes Lions 2023, where AI-manipulated case studies led to major award revocations, most notably involving agency DM9. The trio explores how AI is reshaping creative submissions, the ethics of “scam ads,” and the introduction of new global integrity standards. For marketers, creatives, and agency leaders, this episode offers an urgent look into the future of advertising awards in an AI-driven world.


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Ryan Joe Bio

Ryan Joe is the Editor-in-Chief of Adweek, serving as the episode's primary host. With deep industry knowledge, he guides the discussion on award integrity and evolving standards in advertising recognition, particularly in light of recent controversies involving AI and creative submissions.

Ryan Joe on LinkedIn


Rebecca Stewart Bio

Rebecca Stewart is the Brand Editor at Adweek, bringing extensive expertise in advertising awards and industry recognition programs. Her in-depth knowledge of the Cannes Lions ecosystem and award evaluation processes provides valuable context on both historical practices and emerging challenges in creative recognition.

Rebecca Stewart on LinkedIn


Audrey Kemp Bio

Audre Kemp is Adweek's Agency Reporter, specializing in investigating and reporting on industry developments. Her detailed coverage of the DM9 controversy and subsequent changes to Cannes Lions' integrity standards offers crucial insights into the evolving landscape of advertising awards and accountability.

Audrey Kemp on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic's Special Episode
  • 02:51 Understanding the Cannes Lions Award Hierarchy
  • 06:17 Inside the Award Submission Process
  • 09:38 The Rise of "Cannes Bait" and Scam Ads
  • 12:48 DM9's AI Scandal: How It Unfolded
  • 18:20 New Global Integrity Standards at Cannes
  • 21:45 Balancing Creativity with Commercial Impact
  • 24:48 Final Thoughts: The Future of Industry Awards


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The Future of Snapchat, MetaConnect Predictions, Minecraft Mania, BCI Breakthrough and A16Z's Speedrun Applications with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler18 Sep 202400:28:03

Join hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler on this episode of the TechMagic podcast as they explore what’s hot and happening in tech, innovation, AI, and gaming. This week, Cathy and Lee will explore upcoming innovations from the Snap Partner Summit, including new AI and potential hardware announcements. Get the scoop on Annapurna's sudden staff exodus and its impact on the indie gaming scene. Discover the buzz around the Fallout TV adaptation's Emmy wins and the controversial Minecraft movie trailer. Plus, an exciting update on brain-computer interfaces and their applications. This episode is packed with cutting-edge tech insights and industry news you won’t want to miss.


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Cathy Hackl Bio


Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


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Takeaways from Apple’s Developers Conference, Updates on Apple TV, and Canon’s New Camera Lens with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler11 Jun 202400:48:38

Join hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler on the TechMagic podcast as they dive into Apple's recent Developers Conference. They discuss their underwhelming impressions of the conference and share their thoughts on updates to Apple TV, the new camera lens with Canon, the immersive video series "Submerged," and the integration of Apple intelligence and open AI. They also touch on Palmer Luckey's new hardware and head-mounted display, IKEA's foray into Roblox, and the concept of a virtual GDP. Don't miss out on their discussion on AI beauty pageants and models, and stay tuned for a dispatch from the Cannes Lions Festival in the next episode!


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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics

  • Discussion on Apple's recent Developers Conference
  • Disappointment with the Siri revamp and lack of excitement around it
  • Speculation on Palmer Luckey's announcement
  • Discussion on IKEA's launch into Roblox
  • Confusion and skepticism about AI beauty pageants and models
  • Announcement of Cathy attending the Cannes Lions Festival


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