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How Microsoft built the corporate playbook for scope 3 decarbonisation13 Nov 202500:40:49

In this episode, we speak with Julia Fidler, former Director of Market Development for Energy, Connectivity, and Sustainability at Microsoft, who shares how the company built partnerships that are reshaping corporate approaches to scope 3 emissions.

Fidler discusses:

  • How Microsoft’s early carbon fee on scope 1, 2, and 3.6 emissions created the foundation for treating business travel not just as a measurable category, but as a gateway to solving fuel emissions.
  • How Microsoft’s Sustainability Grant Program supported early exploration of emerging SAF markets through seed funding for consulting guidance and partnerships, creating a model for corporate innovation in hard-to-abate sectors.
  • Why Microsoft chose to support the most expensive SAF pathway (e-fuels/power-to-liquids) and how the concept of “green premium” enabled a three-way collaboration between Microsoft, Alaska Airlines, and Twelve.
  • How the partnership with IAG and the Chooose removed barriers for hundreds of Microsoft suppliers to purchase SAF for the first time.
  • Why Microsoft’s approach balanced carbon removal procurement with SAF investment alongside demand management, treating these not as competing priorities but as complementary strategies.

Fiddler also shares her journey from corporate travel management to leading industry-defining collaborations with airlines and SAF producers, and discusses how she’ll now be scaling these lessons globally through her new role at the RSB.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Etosha Cave, Co-founder & Chief Science Officer of Twelve, who shares how the carbon transformation company harnesses CO2 from industrial waste streams to produce e-fuels. Check it out here

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air: Volume 2’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Microsoft Sustainability 

Alaska Airlines teams with Microsoft to aid development of Twelve’s E-Jet power-to-liquid fuel - GreenAir News 

How Microsoft is using an internal carbon fee to reach its carbon negative goal - Microsoft Industry Blogs  

Microsoft signs sustainable aviation fuel purchase deal with IAG to tackle Scope 3 emissions - ESG Today 

Why Twelve believes power-to-liquids will revolutionise sustainable aviation fuel production - SimpliFlying 

How the oneworld BEV Fund is accelerating next generation SAF technologies30 Oct 202500:46:11

In this episode, we speak with Matthew Ridley, Director of Sustainability and Innovation at the oneworld Alliance, who shares the story behind the groundbreaking $150 million Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) fund launched in partnership with the alliance’s member airlines and Breakthrough Energy Ventures (BEV).

Ridley discusses:

  • The alliance investment advantage: How pooling resources across oneworld members creates access to world-class venture capital expertise, superior deal flow, more diverse portfolios, and geographical networks.
  • Breakthrough Energy’s unprecedented value: Why partnering with BEV provides access to talent airlines struggle to attract, plus synergies with investments in nuclear fusion, energy transmission, and geologic hydrogen.
  • Next-generation focus vs. current needs: How the oneworld BEV fund targets technologies that can take aviation beyond 5-10% SAF adoption to truly change the trajectory of decarbonisation, complementing existing investments.
  • Breaking the alliance mould: How oneworld moved beyond traditional codeshares and interlining to tackle “initiatives of scale”, and how they attracted Singapore Airlines to join despite not being a oneworld member.
  • Reframing aviation’s challenge: Why the problem isn’t aviation itself, but rather the emissions from jet fuel, the only aspect of flight that hasn’t changed since the Kitty Hawk.

Ridley also shares insights from his seven years building IAG’s Hangar 51, where he led first-mover investments in ZeroAvia and LanzaJet, and explains why SAF isn’t a transition fuel but rather a permanent solution once emissions are addressed.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Pasha Saleh, Head of Corporate Development at Alaska Airlines, who shares how the airline is investing in sustainable aviation technologies to achieve its ambitious climate goals. Check it out here

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air: Volume 2’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Sustainability - oneworld 

oneworld becomes first airline alliance to join IATA CO2 connect - IATA 

oneworld airline partners join with Breakthrough Energy Ventures to invest in new SAF technologies - GreenAir News 

How Alaska Star Ventures is funding the future of sustainable aviation - SimpliFlying 

Why Twelve believes power-to-liquids will revolutionise sustainable aviation fuel production24 Jul 202500:33:42

In this episode, we speak with Etosha Cave, Co-Founder and Chief Science Officer of Twelve, who shares how the carbon transformation company harnesses carbon dioxide from industrial waste streams to produce efuels. 

Twelve is one of the visionary companies featured in our new book Sustainability in the Air: Volume Two. You can learn more about the book and order a copy here.

Cave discusses:

  1. Twelve’s carbon transformation technology that mimics photosynthesis, taking CO2 from industrial emissions, air, and landfills, combining it with water and renewable electricity through metal catalysts to create jet fuel and other products.
  2. Strategic partnerships with airlines like Alaska Airlines and International Airlines Group (IAG) and tech companies like Microsoft, leveraging growing consumer demand for carbon-neutral travel solutions and the scalability advantages of power-to-liquids.
  3. Twelve’s Moses Lake, Washington plant location choice, capitalising on abundant hydropower, state incentives, geographic proximity to partners, and the emerging cleantech hub.
  4. How the company navigates political risks around climate incentives by focusing on carbon management as a bipartisan issue that creates jobs and economic value.

Cave also shares her vision for a future with completely closed carbon cycles and explains how Twelve aims to transform waste CO2 into the building blocks for everything from consumer products to aviation fuel.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Nicholas Flanders, Co-Founder & CEO of Twelve, who discusses the crucial role of clean technology in addressing environmental challenges. Check it out here

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & more:

E-Jet® Sustainable Aviation Fuel - Twelve 

Twelve and IAG sign historic long-term multi-million gallon SAF offtake agreement - Twelve 

Alaska Airlines, Microsoft and Twelve partner to advance new form of sustainable aviation fuel - Alaska Airlines 

United Airlines Invests in Twelve for Sustainable Aviation Fuel - Carbon Credits 


How Eve Air Mobility’s eVTOLs are re-imagining the passenger experience of the future21 Sep 202300:50:29

In this episode, we talk to André Stein, Chief Strategy Officer at Eve Air Mobility, a subsidiary of the Brazilian aircraft manufacturer Embraer. 

Stein talks about the transformative potential of electric vertical takeoff and landing (eVTOL) aircraft in urban mobility. He explains how Eve is emphasising the passenger experience, striving to cater to a wide demographic, including the elderly, visually impaired, wheelchair users, and addressing concerns like motion sickness. 

We’ll also learn about how Eve leverages the capabilities of its parent company, Embraer, benefitting from its established aviation experience and infrastructure. Furthermore, Stein stresses Eve’s dedication to sustainability – extending from aircraft design to operations, engaging with energy providers for green solutions and collaborating with global entities to achieve broader sustainability targets.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversations we had with two other stalwarts in the eVTOL space – Adam Goldstein, CEO and Founder at Archer Aviation and Bonny Simi, Head of Air Operations and People and Joby Aviation. Learn more about their visions for the future of urban air mobility here and here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air”. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:
eVTOL - Eve
Embraer-X
United Airlines invests $15M in Eve, signs purchase sgreement for pp to 400 eVTOLs - Avionics International 
Eve is collaborating with MIT to make data-driven decisions to build the urban air mobility market - Eve Air Mobility
BLADE and Eve announce strategic partnership to expand Urban Air Mobility ecosystem in India - Eve Air Mobility
Why eVTOLS will change the way we live, travel and spend time - SimpliFlying
Joby wants to alleviate the pain and frustration of getting from home to your airline seat - SimpliFlying 

How Direct Air Capture technology could ensure long-term SAF supply14 Sep 202300:41:02

In this episode, we talk to Amy Ruddock, VP Europe and Middle East at Carbon Engineering

Based in British Columbia, Canada, Carbon Engineering aims to combat climate change by globally implementing Direct Air Capture (DAC) technology at a megaton-scale. Unlike traditional methods, DAC directly extracts CO2, the key greenhouse gas behind climate change, from the atmosphere, addressing both current unavoidable emissions and past CO2 emissions still present in the atmosphere.

The discussion centers on carbon emissions, capture, and aviation’s role in climate change. Ruddock calls for carbon balance, and discusses the Carbon Engineering and Occidental Petroleum partnership, emphasising strategic alliances and Occidental’s commitment to carbon management. We also learn about carbon capture credits, synthetic aviation fuels, cost reduction, direct air capture hubs, Ruddock’s career and passion for decarbonising aviation, Heathrow expansion, Virgin Atlantic's 100% SAF flight, and Carbon Engineering's global expansion plans.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Gregory Constantine, Co-Founder and CEO of Air Company whose proprietary AIRMADE™ technology that replicates photosynthesis, is converting carbon dioxide into pure alcohols. Initially introducing a carbon-negative vodka, Air Vodka, the company also produces sanitiser and perfume. Crucially, they’ve developed a one-step, 100% drop-in sustainable aviation fuel directly from CO2. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Direct Air Capture Technology - Carbon Engineering 

1PointFive announces agreement with Airbus for the purchase of 400,000 tonnes of carbon removal credits - Decarbonisation Technology

How All Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) Feedstocks and Production Technologies Can Play a Role in Decarbonizing Aviation - Aviation Pros

Occidental, 1PointFive to Begin Construction of World's Largest Direct Air Capture Plant in the Texas Permian Basin - Oxy

Visualizing the scale of the carbon removal problem - The Verge 

Virgin Atlantic’s 100% Sustainable Aviation Fuel gambit - SimpliFlying 

➡️ The company transforming CO2 into clean alcohols and fuel - SimpliFlying 

How we created the most successful podcast on sustainable aviation: Behind the scenes07 Sep 202300:49:11

In the special 50th episode, SimpliFlying CEO and host of the podcast, Shashank Nigam, reflects on the podcast's evolution from its inception on Earth Day 2022. He is joined by the SimpliFlying team members as they record the episode on a boat in London during their annual retreat. 

Shashank begins by highlighting the critical contributions of each member of the SimpliFlying team in the areas of research, writing, production management, design, marketing and distribution. Tracing the podcast's journey, Shashank notes the transition from his initial short YouTube video content to in-depth podcasts, driven by his – and the company’s – increasing interest and curiosity in sustainable aviation. 

Apart from discussing unique features like innovative visual branding and insightful articles that replace traditional transcripts, the team also recalls some of their favourite and most insightful episodes. Red Sea Global’s episode on its regenerative tourism site receives a special mention as it aims to be the largest tourism destination in the world that is powered 100% by renewable energy 24 hours a day. Other noteworthy episodes include interviews with AIR COMPANY, which transforms carbon dioxide into sustainable aviation fuel, and Archer, an electric air taxi firm. The episode on SATAVIA’s contrail reduction technology is mentioned, with Shashank noting its relevance from an earlier conversation with Etihad Airways.

Overall, the team remains optimistic about sustainable aviation’s future, foreseeing innovations in hydrogen fuel and other green technologies. Concluding with light-hearted bloopers and future aspirations, the episode emphasises the podcast’s commitment to advancing discussions on sustainable aviation.

A special shout-out to our sponsors, both past and present, who have championed our podcast since day 1 – CarbonClick, Cirium, and our current sponsor, Travelport

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

How Red Sea Global’s ambitious eco-tourism model could save the planet

The company transforming CO2 into clean alcohols and fuel

Why eVTOLS will change the way we live, travel and spend time 

Deep Work: Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World - Amazon

The Climate Book by Greta Thunberg - Penguin Random House 

Why transparency trumps accuracy while calculating carbon emissions31 Aug 202300:53:44

In this episode, we talk to Tom Kershaw, Chief Product & Technology Officer at Travelport, about how technology coupled with a transparent, collaborative approach can lead to a sustainable future. 

Travelport is a travel technology company with transparency at its core. It provides “a single, independent marketplace for buyers and sellers of travel” that helps travellers make informed travel decisions while enabling travel businesses such as airlines and hotels to personalise their content and offers. 

Kershaw asserts that sustainability is a technical problem that requires integration and collaboration across various departments, including revenue, marketing, and technology. He emphasises that sustainability should be a part of the culture in every organisation, not a segregated department.

You’ll also learn about the importance of having standard and transparent calculations for carbon emissions, rather than aiming for absolute accuracy. Kershaw stresses the need for consumers to understand the relative impact of their choices and make informed decisions. Most importantly, the episode explains why the intersection of government policy, corporate responsibility, and technological innovation is crucial for the path ahead.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Red Sea Global’s CEO John Pagano who shares how the developer is rethinking eco-tourism that will allow you to travel not just net-zero, but true climate positive. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

About Travelport

Travelport+ is the platform for modern agency retailing - Travelport

Travelport Joins Travalyst Coalition and Escalates Focus on Sustainability in Travel Retailing - Travelport

IATA CO2 Connect Calculator 

European Green Deal: new law agreed to cut aviation emissions by promoting sustainable aviation fuels - European Commission

US-based United Airlines expects Inflation Reduction Act to spur more SAF output - S&P

➡️ How Red Sea Global’s ambitious eco-tourism model could save the planet - SimpliFlying 

SATAVIA wants to solve a majorly ignored aspect of aviation’s climate impact24 Aug 202300:57:04

SATAVIA wants to solve a majorly ignored aspect of aviation’s climate impact

In this episode, we talk to Adam Durant, Founder & CEO of SATAVIA, about the groundbreaking work being done in the field of contrail reduction and its implications on the environment.

Contrails are the long, thin clouds that often form behind an airplane in cold and humid conditions when water vapor freezes around small dust and soot particles from the engine. Although they look harmless, contrails are made up of small ice crystals that trap heat in the earth’s atmosphere and contribute to global warming – one study suggests contrails are responsible for as much as 57% of aviation’s warming impact. 

Durant talks about how addressing contrail formation is an important sustainability problem that can be tackled effectively with current technology and resources. He says that only “persistent” contrails, formed by about 5% of flights, are at fault. Moreover, he emphasises that not all contrails are harmful; some even have a cooling effect. He suggests a strategic approach, avoiding contrails that cause warming while possibly utilising those that have a cooling effect. 

Overall, while delving into the fascinating science of contrails and the technical details of how SATAVIA’s software helps airlines such as Etihad and KLM avoid contrail formation, Durant stresses the importance of looking beyond carbon emissions to fully grasp and manage the aviation sector's impact on climate change.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with ex-Etihad CEO Tony Dougas who shared how Etihad is paving the way for the entire industry to move a step closer to net-zero. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Technology - SATAVIA    

Contrails are a problem for aviation -- but there could be an easy solution - CNN 

The contribution of global aviation to anthropogenic climate forcing for 2000 to 2018 - ScienceDirect 

Etihad Airways signs multi-year commercial production contract with Satavia - Times Aerospace

Contrails prevention specialist SATAVIA seeks carbon-credit accreditation - Aviation Week Network

Institute for Atmospheric Physics - Contrail Cirrus Prediction Model (CoCiP)

Gold Standard approves aircraft contrails methodology concept - Gold Standard 

Project Contrails – Google Research 

How Etihad is leading the industry towards a sustainable future - SimpliFlying 


How JetBlue plans to get to net zero by 2040 without stifling growth17 Aug 202300:53:36

In this episode, we talk to Sara Bogdan, Head of Sustainability and ESG at JetBlue Airways, one of the two airlines in the world planning to achieve net zero emissions by 2040 – a full decade ahead of the industry's target.

Bogdan talks about sustainability in the aviation industry, with a particular focus on JetBlue's pioneering efforts. Beginning with a broad overview of global environmental challenges, she highlights various initiatives to enhance fuel efficiency, reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and employ sustainable aviation fuels (SAFs). 

We also learn about the airline's collaborative approach with suppliers, government agencies, and stakeholders. The complexity of balancing business growth with environmental impact is explored, with an emphasis on the necessity for transparency, innovation, and accountability. 

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with JetBlue Ventures President Amy Burr who shared how JetBlue’s technology investments are aiding the aviation sector to make progressive moves towards sustainability. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

JetBlue Announces Science-based Emissions Reduction Target and Strategy to Achieve Net Zero by 2040 - JetBlue

United, JetBlue further investments in sustainability - PhocusWire 

JetBlue, Shell ink sustainable fuel deal trackable using blockchain - Ledger Insights

JetBlue to allow travellers to contribute towards SAF - Business Travel News

JetBlue Partners With CHOOSE To Give Customers Tools To Scale Sustainable Flying - TravelPulse

JetBlue signs SAF supply agreement with AIR COMPANY - Airport Technology 

Amy Burr on how JetBlue Ventures is investing in the future of sustainable aviation - SimpliFlying  

How Sara Bogdan is taking JetBlue towards net zero via SAF and more - SimpliFlying 

The airline aiming for net zero 22 years before the industry target10 Aug 202300:42:52

The airline aiming for net zero 22 years before the industry target

In this episode, we talk to Maarten Koopmans, Managing Director of KLM Cityhopper about KLM’s bold gambit in utilising regional aviation as a testbed for its overall sustainability strategy. 

KLM Cityhopper, the regional subsidiary of the Dutch airline KLM, has an ambitious and focused vision for reaching net zero this decade itself. While discussing the sustainability challenges in the aviation industry, Koopmans also acknowledges the significant role of climate activists and changing consumer behaviours. 

Koopmans emphasises the importance of people, particularly the young generation, in driving change and encourages them to join companies like KLM. Most importantly, Koopmans stresses the necessity of narrowing one’s focus in order to achieve tangible results. So how exactly does KLM Cityhopper intend to get to net zero by 2028? Listen to our episode and find out.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with SkyTeam Alliance’s CEO Patrick Roux who outlines the alliance’s role in enabling airlines’ net zero journey. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

KLM Group’s CO2 emission reduction targets for 2030 approved by SBTi - KLM 

KLM completes inaugural Sustainable Flight Challenge using GE Jet Engines - The GE Aerospace Blog

Sustainable Flight Challenge: KLM and KLM Cityhopper to LA and Trondheim - Bluebiz 

KLM doubles sustainable fuel surcharge to cover cost of more SAF - Runway Girl Network 

KLM starts collaboration with AeroDelft student team: building a hydrogen plane - KLM 

KLM to officially launch rail-air service between Brussels and Amsterdam – Business Traveller 

Why SkyTeam believes the world needs “conscious travel” - SimpliFlying 


Swissport believes greening the skies starts on the ground03 Aug 202300:45:53

In this episode, we talk to Nadia Kaddouri, former Chief Strategy and Sustainability Officer for Swissport International, the leading provider of airport ground services and air cargo handling based on revenue and number of airports served. 

In this episode, Kaddouri stresses that the hope for a net-zero future lies in people’s excitement and willingness to adopt sustainability measures. While laying out Swissport’s vision and plans for a net-zero future, she highlights the wider scope of sustainability beyond decarbonisation and acknowledges the impactful role of COVID-19 in changing industry work practices.

We also learn about Kaddouri’s fascinating shift from heading finance to leading sustainability. She emphasises the importance of passion and continuous learning in navigating new fields and shares her approach to learning about sustainability, which includes drawing inspiration from diverse sources such as other companies, suppliers, and podcasts. 

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Dubai International Airport’s CEO Paul Griffiths. He talks at length about the sustainability initiatives at one of the largest airports in the world. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Swissport International AG - Sustainability 

Swissport announces new sustainability targets - Passenger Terminal Today

Swissport to reduce its CO2 emissions by at least 42 percent by 2032 - BTN 

Swissport embraces growth and green logistics - Air Cargo News 

Amsterdam Schiphol ground handling vehicles to run on Neste renewable diesel - AviationSource News 

➡️ How do you decarbonise a major airport? - SimpliFlying 


Why Universal Hydrogen is choosing a radical path to sustainability27 Jul 202300:54:49

In this episode, we talk to Paul Eremenko, co-founder and CEO of Universal Hydrogen, a company that wants to make hydrogen-powered commercial flight a near-term reality. 

Universal Hydrogen’s first product is a conversion kit for existing ATR72 and De Havilland Canada Dash-8 aircraft to fly on hydrogen. It includes a fuel cell electric powertrain and lightweight, modular hydrogen capsules transported directly to the aircraft.

In this episode, we’ll learn about the potential of modularity in aerospace manufacturing and the urgent necessity for innovative solutions in this space. Emphasising the value of radical changes over incremental improvements, Eremenko argues for exploring alternatives to conventional jet fuel. He makes a compelling case for hydrogen as a potential fuel source, capable of significantly reducing the aviation industry's carbon footprint and helping meet global sustainability goals. 

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Universal Hydrogen co-founder John-Paul Clarke. He explains how hydrogen – specifically green hydrogen – can help airlines achieve their net zero goals. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Universal Hydrogen takes to the air with the largest hydrogen fuel cell ever to fly - TechCrunch 

Universal Hydrogen Dash 8-300 makes second flight - The Air Current

Universal Hydrogen moves its flight test campaign to Mojave - Inceptive Mind 

Universal Hydrogen to offer green solutions for Japanese Airlines - Airport Technology

Universal Hydrogen advances ATR 72 hydrogen conversion - Aviation Week Network 

Meet Lightning McClean, the largest hydrogen-powered plane so far - Move Electric

Air New Zealand announces Heart Aerospace, Universal Hydrogen and Embraer as further Mission Next Gen Aircraft partners - Future Travel Experience

Universal Hydrogen lands $20.5m investment, Airbus and JetBlue arms contribute - Flight Global

American Airlines Invests in Universal Hydrogen Co. - Avionics International  

Universal Hydrogen’s vision to get aviation to net zero - SimpliFlying 

easyJet believes hydrogen propulsion is the future of short-haul flying20 Jul 202300:30:19

In this episode, we talk to Jane Ashton, Sustainability Director at easyJet, Europe’s second-largest budget carrier. 

Ashton enumerates the six levers of sustainability that easyJet is working on to get to net zero by 2050, and explains why the airline moved away from betting on electric to hydrogen propulsion. 

In this episode, we’ll also learn about the various partnerships easyJet is exploring to make hydrogen propulsion a reality; the current status of their partnership with Wright Electric; why the airline has completely disavowed carbon offsetting; and the need for closer industry collaboration as well as the regulatory infrastructure to enable new technologies to scale.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Amanda Simpson, Vice President for Research & Technology (Americas) at Airbus. She elaborates why Airbus firmly believes that hydrogen has the potential to offer a true clean fuel solution to not just aviation but other industries as well. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Net Zero Pathway – easyJet 

easyJet publishes SBTi-aligned net-zero roadmap to 2050 - ATAG

easyJet upgrading A320 fleet with Airbus optimisation technology - Simple Flying 

easyJet switches ‘green’ aviation focus from electric planes to hydrogen fuel - The Independent 

Rolls-Royce and easyJet test aircraft engine running on hydrogen - The Guardian 

GKN Aerospace, easyJet partner to promote decarbonization, advance hydrogen technology - Avionics International 

easyJet urges governments to back Airbus bet on hydrogen - Bloomberg 

easyJet to ditch landmark carbon offsetting scheme - Financial Times 

Why Airbus is betting big on hydrogen combustion - SimpliFlying 


Why IAG believes sustainable aviation requires both collaboration and competition10 Jul 202500:50:25

In this episode, we speak with Aaron Robinson, Vice President of Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) at the International Airlines Group (IAG), which has become the top airline globally for SAF use.

IAG is one of the visionary companies featured in our new book Sustainability in the Air: Volume Two. You can learn more about the book and order a copy here.

Robinson discusses:

  1. How IAG leveraged European incentives, Heathrow Airport programmes, and emissions trading schemes to make SAF economically viable whilst partnering with corporate customers like DHL and Microsoft to fund the price gap.
  2. Why 52% of airlines globally still haven’t used any SAF, exploring how the industry’s safety culture can create resistance to technological change and first-mover disadvantage.
  3. The cultural and policy differences driving higher SAF adoption rates in Europe versus North 
  4. How regulatory backlash against sustainability claims can discourage innovation and communication about genuine progress.
  5. The role of book-and-claim systems in optimising SAF deployment whilst developing production capacity in emerging markets across Latin America, Asia, and Africa.
  6. Why the industry needs both elements – collaboration to build infrastructure foundations and healthy competition to drive innovation.

Note: This interview was recorded in August 2024. For the latest figures on SAF use, follow Robinson’s ongoing LinkedIn series. You can read the first post here.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Jolanda Stevens, Program Manager for Zero Emission Aviation at KLM, who shares how the airline is advancing sustainable aviation through innovation, partnerships, and strategic investment. Check it out here

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & more:

Sustainability – International Airlines Group

Infinium and Twelve raise a total of up to $1.7 billion towards eSAF production – GreenAir News

Microsoft backs SAF for Scope 3 business travel emissions in agreements with IAG and FEG – GreenAir News  

British Airways owner IAG ups sustainable fuel intake with Infinium – Forbes 

Why Widerøe Zero sees regional aviation as the pathway to airline sustainability13 Jul 202300:47:34

In this episode, we talk to Andreas Aks, CEO of Widerøe Zero, a subsidiary of the Norwegian airline Widerøe. 

Widerøe Zero has been set up as a consultancy-cum-incubator that seeks to shed the baggage of legacy aviation and usher in a green future. The company aims to tackle the regulatory, commercial and financing challenges involved in purchasing and operating an entirely new class of aircraft.

In this episode, we’ll delve into sustainable aviation’s future, particularly focusing on electric and hydrogen-fueled aircraft. We’ll also learn about the need for long-term vision and industry-wide collaboration; exploring the potential of retrofitting existing fleets; and the vital role OEMs and customers play in this future-facing transformation of the aviation industry.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Embraer’s President & CEO Arjan Meijer and Vice President of Marketing and Strategy Rodrigo Silva e Souza. They elaborate on Embraer’s ambitious roadmap for decarbonising regional aviation. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Nordic airline Wideroe launches unit for emissions-free flying - Reuters 

Alliance for Zero Emission Aviation - European Commission

Widerøe Zero to launch Air Mobility Lab - Widerøe Zero  

Wideroe outlines ambitions for zero-emissions flying - Flight Global

Rolls-Royce Joins Forces with Tecnam, Widerøe on Electric Model - FLYING Magazine 

Eve and Widerøe expand partnership with order of 50 eVTOL aircraft - Airport Technology

Widerøe First Airline to Join Embraer’s Energia Advisory Group - Embraer

Embraer, Widerøe and Rolls-Royce Partner To Pursue Zero Emission Flight - Aero Expo 

Embraer’s ambitious roadmap for decarbonising regional aviation - SimpliFlying 


Joby wants to alleviate the pain and frustration of getting from home to your airline seat06 Jul 202300:59:42

In this episode, we talk to Bonny Simi, Head of Air Operations and People at Joby Aviation. 

On our podcast, she explains why, thanks to over 10 years of designing, developing and testing, Joby is set to be a leader in the eVTOL (electric vertical takeoff and landing aircraft) space. Thanks to an initial investment by JetBlue Ventures, followed by further investment and an exclusive partnership with Delta Air Lines, Joby expects to enter commercial service in 2025.  

We’ll also hear about the company’s grand vision of saving a billion people an hour a day; the value of collaboration and partnerships while building a new aircraft; the benefit of attracting top talent from a variety of companies and building a people-first organisation; and why these so-called electric air taxis will usher in a radical new form of convenient and affordable last-mile transportation. 

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Adam Goldstein, CEO and Founder at Archer Aviation. Goldstein explains in detail how eVTOLs will change the way we live, travel and spend time. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

JetBlue invests in flying taxi startup - Travel Mole

Toyota-backed Joby eVTOL production to start in California, USA - Team-BHP 

Joby Aviation receives permit to fly first eVTOL built on production line - TechCrunch 

How Joby and Delta are making flying taxis a reality - CNBC

Joby and ANA to operate eVTOL flights at Expo 2025 Osaka - AeroTime

Dubai again plans for flying taxi takeoff, this time by 2026 - ET EnergyWorld

Joby Aviation Reveals Details of Its New ‘Aviation Academy’ - FLYING Magazine 

 Why eVTOLS will change the way we live, travel and spend time - SimpliFlying 


Why Oscar Munoz advocates a people-centric approach to sustainability 29 Jun 202300:49:45

In this episode, we talk to Oscar Munoz, former CEO of United Airlines and recently retired Executive Chairman of the airline’s board. Munoz shares insights from his new book, “Turnaround Time”, a deeply personal account of his time as CEO during which he led United’s remarkable comeback.

On our podcast, he explains the pivotal role of empathy and trust in leadership, especially in navigating an organization through crises and fostering an innovative and inclusive culture for long-term success and sustainability.

We’ll also hear about the value of diversity and inclusion; innovation during crises like COVID-19; and the future of aviation with sustainability and eVTOLs (electric vertical takeoff and landing aircraft) playing significant roles.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Scott Kirby, the current CEO of United Airlines. Kirby explains in detail how United Airlines is the carrier to look up to when it comes to sustainability strategy and investments. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Turnaround Time by Oscar Munoz 

How United’s Oscar Munoz Bounced Back After a Heart Transplant - Fortune 

2017 United Express Passenger Removal - Wikipedia

How Former United Airlines CEO Oscar Munoz Turned the Struggling Airline Around - Inc.com 

United's Busting Out the Big Bucks On Flying Taxis - Gizmodo 

Archer, United Airlines to Launch First eVTOL Air Shuttle - Airways Magazine 

How Scott Kirby is making United Airlines a global leader in sustainability - SimpliFlying 


KLM wants to prove that sustainability can be good for business22 Jun 202300:50:09

In this episode, we talk to Zita Schellekens, SVP Strategy & Sustainability at KLM who explains how a sustainable future can be achieved without sacrificing growth.

We’ll hear about KLM’s commitment to sustainability through innovative technologies and collaborations. In addition, the adoption of sustainable aviation fuel, testing new aircraft designs, and integrating sustainability into business decisions are key strategies. We’ll also learn how KLM’s decision to abandon “economic tankering” for environmental reasons exemplifies a willingness to make tough choices for a greener future.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Holly Boyd-Boland, Virgin Atlantic’s VP Corporate Development and Sustainability. She shares how the airline is preparing to conduct a historic 100% SAF flight with its partners; the existing regulatory and technical challenges with procuring, producing and using SAF; and other pathways to net zero by 2050. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Note: This episode is a part of our SkyTeam special series. In this series, we will highlight SkyTeam member airlines participating in The Sustainable Flight Challenge, and bringing sustainability into flight operations today. 

Links & More:

KLM Group’s CO2 emission reduction targets for 2030 approved by SBTi - KLM

Tankering in aviation - Transport & Environment 

EU agrees to decarbonize air travel with the ‘world’s largest green fuels mandate for aviation’ - CNBC 

KLM starts collaboration with AeroDelft student team: building a hydrogen plane - KLM

KLM, SkyNRG and SHV Energy greenlight the world’s largest stand-alone sustainable aviation fuels project - Biofuels Digest

Neste to supply the Air France-KLM Group with more than 1 million tons of SAF - ARGS

Air France KLM Signs 210 Million Gallon SAF Offtake Agreement With DG Fuels - DGFuels 

Sustainable Flight Challenge - SkyTeam

Virgin Atlantic’s 100% Sustainable Aviation Fuel gambit - SimpliFlying 


How Air France plans to exceed the EU’s decarbonisation targets15 Jun 202300:50:14

In this episode, we talk to Vincent Etchebehere, Director of Sustainability and New Mobilities at Air France who maps out the airline’s short- and long-term pathways to net zero emissions.

We’ll also learn about the importance and effectiveness of fleet renewal and how the airline is planning to adopt alternative fuels including hydrogen and reduce its carbon footprint. Etchebehere highlights Air France’s investments in SAF; explains why transparency and science-based communication are crucial; and urges intra-industry cooperation to aid the airline’s efforts to meet its decarbonisation targets.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby who firmly believes that sustainability is the defining issue for our generation to solve. He explains in detail how United is the carrier to look up to when it comes to sustainability strategy and investment; their investments in SAF; and why carbon sequestration is far better than carbon offsetting. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Note: This episode is a part of our SkyTeam special series. In this series, we will highlight SkyTeam member airlines participating in The Sustainable Flight Challenge, and bringing sustainability into flight operations today. 

Links & More:

France has banned air travel between cities that can be reached easily by train - Business Insider  

Fleet modernization, the first lever in the Group’s decarbonization - Air France

Air France and SNCF to operate an additional 7 “Train + Air” services - Air France 

Air France-KLM pushes its sustainability targets forward with major multi-year Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) purchase agreements - Air France 

EU agrees to world’s largest green fuels mandate for aviation - Transport & Environment 

Air France CEO Anne Rigail sees trains playing a bigger role in her airline’s strategy - Airline Weekly 

Sustainable Flight Challenge - SkyTeam

How Scott Kirby is making United Airlines a global leader in sustainability - SimpliFlying 

Why SkyTeam believes the world needs “conscious travel”08 Jun 202300:33:23

In this episode, we talk to SkyTeam Alliance’s CEO Patrick Roux, who outlines the alliance’s role in enabling airlines’ net zero journey. He also discusses The Sustainable Flight Challenge, SkyTeam’s groundbreaking initiative to promote sustainable innovations, and how sustainability can be an integral part of customer experience. 

We’ll also learn about the importance of collaboration among airlines to achieve sustainability, the evolving customer experience driven by environmental consciousness, the necessity to adapt despite varying regulatory pressures, and the value of sharing innovations and best practices.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Star Alliance CEO Jeffrey Goh, who shared how the alliance is supporting airlines in stepping up their sustainability game, including efforts such as inter-modal partnerships, a sustainability summit, investment in SAF and more. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Note: This episode is a part of our SkyTeam special series. In this series, we will highlight SkyTeam member airlines participating in The Sustainable Flight Challenge, and bringing sustainability into flight operations today. 

Links & More:

Sustainable Flight Challenge - SkyTeam

Impact of TSFC - SkyTeam 

SAUDIA participates in SkyTeam’s Sustainable Flight Challenge 2023 in joint effort to make aviation cleaner - Bloomberg 

Kenya Airways operates its most sustainable boeing 787 flight yet - Simple Flying 

DB becomes first intermodal partner of the Star Alliance - Railway News 

How Star Alliance is facilitating a net-zero future in aviation - SimpliFlying

Why Delta Air Lines believes the next frontier of sustainability is collaboration01 Jun 202300:47:05

In this episode, we talk to Amelia DeLuca, Chief Sustainability OfficerVice President, at Delta Air Lines. She shares how the next frontier of sustainability is collaboration – not only from collaboration with their SkyTeam airline partners, but also in how it shows up in other spheres whether they’re on the ground or in the air. 

We’ll also learn about Delta’s single-minded focus on tracking customer preferences and linking them to sustainability; the airline’s efforts to run on 10% SAF by 2030; the aggressive campaign to discard single-use plastics and reduce waste; a unique collaboration with MIT to explore the reduction of airplane contrails; and, of course, the first-of-its-kind Sustainable Skies Lab that seeks to create a space for various stakeholders and innovators to collaborate and realise the future of sustainability. 

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Holly Boyd-Boland, Virgin Atlantic’s VP Corporate Development and Sustainability. She shares how the airline is preparing to conduct their historic 100% SAF flight and using SAF and other pathways to net zero by 2050. Check it out here.

Reach out to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Note: This episode is a part of our SkyTeam special series. In this series, we will highlight SkyTeam member airlines participating in The Sustainable Flight Challenge, and bringing sustainability into flight operations today. 

Links and more:

Delta Ups onboard sustainability with eco-friendly soft products - Simple Flying

Clean Skies for Tomorrow leaders: 10% Sustainable Aviation Fuel by 2030 - World Economic Forum 

Delta signs SAF agreement with Gevo - Biomass Magazine 

California Legislature passes bill to achieve 20% SAF use by 2030 - Biobased Diesel 

Fort Worth’s Aero Design Labs aims to help Delta Air Lines save fuel, reduce carbon emissions with 'Drag Reduction Kits' - Dallas Innovates  

Delta to work with MIT to study impact of airplane contrails on climate - Phys Org 

Delta Airlines and Joby outline a seamless, sustainable eVTOL passenger experience - APEX

Delta Air Lines pushes towards net zero emissions with Sustainable Skies Lab - Forbes

Virgin Atlantic’s 100% Sustainable Aviation Fuel gambit - SimpliFlying

Virgin Atlantic’s 100% Sustainable Aviation Fuel gambit19 Apr 202300:48:08

Later this year, Virgin Atlantic will conduct the world’s first net zero transatlantic flight powered by 100% sustainable aviation fuel (SAF). If all goes well, it could set the stage for much cleaner flying by the end of this decade.

In this episode, we talk to Holly-Boyd Boland, Virgin Atlantic’s VP Corporate Development and Sustainability. She shares how Virgin Atlantic is preparing to conduct the historic flight with its partners and the existing regulatory and technical challenges with procuring, producing and using SAF. 

We’ll also learn about the importance of studying the impact of contrails on the climate; the potential of carbon capture technology; Virgin Atlantic's corporate SAF programme; their in-flight sustainability initiatives and much more.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Sheila Remes, Boeing’s Vice President of Environmental Sustainability, who shared how the airframer is collaborating with industry stakeholders – such as Virgin Atlantic – to move aviation towards its 2050 net zero goal. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

[2008] Boeing, Virgin Atlantic and GE Aviation to Fly First Commercial Jet on Biofuel - Boeing Newsroom 

World’s first net zero transatlantic flight to fly from London in 2023 - GOV.UK 

Virgin Atlantic purchases 10 million gallons of SAF from Gevo - Biofuels International Magazine 

Virgin Group plans to use low-carbon fuel made from plastic waste - The Independent 

Airlines and others collaborate to study contrails - Travel Weekly 

Protecting our planet - Virgin Atlantic 

Reducing, reusing and recycling - Virgin Atlantic 

Virgin Atlantic launches corporate SAF programme - Business Travel News Europe  

Boeing’s Sheila Remes in conversation with Shashank Nigam - SimpliFlying 


Why CarbonClick wants airlines to work on reduction strategies before offsetting12 Apr 202300:39:07

Carbon offsetting is a frequently used solution for mitigating excessive emissions, especially in aviation. The solution however, is not without its fair share of controversies.

In this episode, we talk to CarbonClick’s Vice President of Enterprise Product & Strategic Partnerships, Seth Horowitz. He shares how the carbon offsets, when used carefully, can be an asset to aviation. 

As an industry leader in managing and implementing transparent offsetting programs, CarbonClick helps individuals and top global airlines reduce pollution while restoring nature. However, Horowitz emphasises that offsetting must be used as the last step mitigation strategy, only after every other reduction methodology has been exhausted. 

We’ll also learn about Horowitz’s thoughts on the recent controversy and criticisms of carbon offsetting; how CarbonClick verifies and selects projects; the offsetting technology platform that the company provides to airlines and eCommerce companies; individual responsibility towards the environment and why intentional flying is the way forward.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Tony Douglas, Group CEO of Etihad, who shares his thoughts on Etihad’s carbon offsetting programme and how the airline is paving the way for the entire industry to move a step closer to net-zero. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Full disclosure: CarbonClick is a co-sponsor of the Sustainability in the Air podcast Season 3 and has been the sole sponsor for Seasons 1 and 2.


Links & More:

Airport and Airline Carbon Offsetting Solution for Bookings - CarbonClick

The Carbon Con – How offsetting claims are vastly inflated - Source Material 

Carbon offsets are in the news again. What should you do? - SimpliFlying 

The Gold Standard  

Etihad Airways boosts carbon offset programme  

Tony Douglas, Etihad Airways CEO, in conversation with Shashank Nigam - SimpliFlying 


Embraer’s ambitious roadmap for decarbonising regional aviation05 Apr 202301:01:46

Aircraft are the heart of aviation. Making efficient and greener aircraft is possibly the most effective way to cut the industry’s carbon emissions. 

In this episode, we talk to Embraer’s President & CEO Arjan Meijer and Vice President of Marketing and Strategy Rodrigo Silva e Souza. They share how the aircraft manufacturer is on a mission to decarbonise regional aviation through a mix of innovative technologies.

At the heart of Embraer’s sustainability roadmap is their regional air mobility (RAM) and urban air mobility (UAM) strategy. Underpinned by their Energia hybrid-electric and hydrogen-electric aircraft and Eve Air Mobility’s eVTOLs, Embraer is placing its bets on decarbonising shortest-haul travel first. 

We’ll also learn about why planes cannot entirely be replaced by trains; the sustainability outlook for business jets; how Embraer built the world’s quietest narrowbody aircraft; the ways in which in-cabin improvements can enhance sustainability; Embraer’s plan for carbon neutral operations by 2040 and net zero by 2050.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Airbus’ Amanda Simpson about how the airframer is at the forefront of investing in new technologies and innovations, chief among them being hydrogen. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Embraer - The shape of things to come, new sustainable aircraft concepts revealed 

Concepts - Embraer Commercial Aviation Sustainability 

Demonstrators and customer feedback at heart of Embraer’s Energia roadmap - Flight Global 

What Is New With Embraer's Energia Family Concept? - Simple Flying 

A look at Eve’s eVTOL aircraft as it targets type certification in late 2025 - Vertical 

Schiphol eliminating all overnight flights and private flights by the end of 2025 - NL Times 

Inside Embraer - How The E2 Became The Quietest Jet - Simple Flying 

Embraer commits to carbon neutral operations by 2040 - Aviation Benefits 

Embraer, Raízen partnership to stimulate production of sustainable aviation fuel - Biobased Diesel 

Embraer sets new target for 100% green electricity in Brazil - Airport Technology 

How the GBTA aims to align corporate travel demand with aviation sustainability goals26 Jun 202500:46:52

In this episode, we speak with Suzanne Neufang, CEO of the Global Business Travel Association (GBTA), who shares how the world’s leading business travel association is transforming corporate travel to accelerate aviation decarbonisation through industry collaboration.

Neufang discusses:

  1. How sustainability priorities amongst travel managers more than doubled from 8% in 2023 to 19% in 2024, though the industry baseline remains at just 1.3 out of 5 on GBTA's sustainability maturity scale.
  2. Why sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) is the most promising decarbonisation pathway for aviation today, and how corporate customers must play an active role in stimulating market demand through SAF certificate purchases.
  3. How GBTA's Sustainability Acceleration Challenge mobilised over 240 companies to benchmark their decarbonisation efforts and identify best practices.
  4. Why GBTA takes a pragmatic rather than activist approach, focusing on harmonising standards across the complex corporate travel ecosystem to eliminate inefficiencies.
  5. How artificial intelligence holds great promise for optimising travel decisions and emissions tracking, with potential for 10-15% emissions reductions through more efficient air routing alone.
  6. Why business travel serves as a catalyst for broader aviation sustainability, given that corporate travellers are the frequent flyers responsible for most airline profits and emissions.

Neufang also explains GBTA’s three-pronged strategy of bringing the industry together, rallying players around common standards, and building capacity at scale to move the entire travel industry towards more sustainable practices.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Sally Davey, CEO of Travalyst, who shares how the not-for-profit coalition is transforming the travel industry through collaborative data initiatives. Check it out here

Learn more about the startups, strategists, and sceptics working to close the gap between growth and green ambition in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air: Volume Two’. Click here to learn more.


Links & more:

Global Business Travel Association - GBTA 

Sustainability - GBTA 

GBTA Sustainability Acceleration Challenge - GBTA Foundation 

Business travel bounces back: spending forecast to hit record - Skift 

How Red Sea Global’s ambitious eco-tourism model could save the planet29 Mar 202300:56:22

As one of the world’s most visionary resort developers, Red Sea Global wants to show that there is a better way to positively shape the places in which we live, work and travel.

In this episode, we talk to John Pagano, CEO at Red Sea Global. He shares how the company is creating brand new eco-tourism destinations that will allow you to travel not just net-zero, but true climate positive.

By re-thinking the entire model of what tourism can be — and should be — in the future, Red Sea Global is on a mission to prove that good business can go hand-in-hand with a greener planet. As Pagano says, we know what we’ve done wrong in the past, and we know the reasons for the current climate and ecological crisis. And it’s up to us to not repeat those mistakes.

We’ll also learn about setting the ecological ceiling to preserve the environment, how Red Sea Global is going 100% renewable by building the world's largest microgrid and battery storage systems; how to use data to increase the net conservation value; and why transparency is the key to setting and achieving goals.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Universal Hydrogen’s John-Paul Clarke on how hydrogen can be a game-changer in clean transportation, especially aviation. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Responsible Development by Red Sea Global

About the Red Sea Project and Amaala

World’s largest battery storage facility

Red Sea Global - Sustainability Report 2022

Climate change: The IPCC just published its summary of 5 years of reports – here's what you need to know 

How Cirium’s data can help drive better sustainability benchmarks and targets22 Mar 202300:41:10

As the industry leader in aviation analytics, Cirium assists the aviation industry in predicting future trends through its rich datasets that date back to 1947 and cover over 400,000 aircraft!

In this episode, we talk to Jeremy Bowen, CEO at Cirium. He shares how the company is empowering the industry to reach a more sustainable future with the most accurate aircraft emissions data.

Cirium has a wealth of data that airlines can use today. Their highly-accurate Global Aircraft Emissions Monitor is a valuable starting point for any airline that wants to seriously plan emissions reduction – and, eventually, hit net zero. After all, without the data to measure current baselines, any effort to go green will be a shot in the dark.  

We’ll also learn about the complex data set underlying the emissions calculator; how Cirium ensures their data is transparent, independent of bias and validated; why the future of corporate travel may include carbon budgets; and how one company switched a large corporate travel account from one airline to another based on carbon efficiency considerations.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with International Council on Clean Transportation’s Dan Rutherford on the data behind sustainability and the trajectory airlines and governments need to follow to get to net-zero emissions. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Cirium Sustainability 

The On-Time Performance Review 2022 - Cirium

Global Aircraft Emissions Monitor – Cirium

The most accurate flight emissions data is now available via Cirium Sky - Cirium

Travel Smart Campaign    

Why eVTOLS will change the way we live, travel and spend time15 Mar 202300:47:45

eVTOLs (electric vertical takeoff and landing) or ‘air taxis’ refer to aircraft that use electric power to take off and land vertically, and are particularly useful in urban areas afflicted with traffic congestion.

In this episode, we talk to Adam Goldstein, CEO and Founder at Archer Aviation. He shares how the company focuses on designing and developing eVTOLs, which they believe will “unlock the skies” and enable everyone to reimagine how they live, travel and manage time. 

Goldstein says these vehicles – which can carry four passengers and a pilot – will not only change the way people move but also allow people to get a lot of time back. “Imagine the trips that you've been taking in your car – it would take you 60, 90, even 120 minutes of sitting in traffic. But you could instead fly to your destination in five or 10 minutes”, he asserts. Such a future is actually closer than we think. Archer aims to get its aircraft certified by the end of 2024 and, along with its partner United Airlines, will begin commercial eVTOL flights in 2025.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with United Airlines’ Scott Kirby on how the airline is pushing the sustainability envelope. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Report: The Urban Air Mobility Power List - SimpliFlying

The underlying eVTOL technology - Archer 

United Airlines' Future eVTOL Revealed: The Archer Midnight - Simple Flying 

Archer Aviation plans to build 250 air taxis in 2025 - Reuters 

Archer lands $1B order from United Airlines and a SPAC deal - TechCrunch 

United partners with Archer to accelerate production of advanced eVTOL aircraft - Future Travel Experience

Archer Aviation Nears Completion of Its First Build, Midnight - Investing.com

Archer Aviation begins construction of manufacturing facility - Flight Global 

Stellantis to mass produce Archer’s electric aircraft in expanded deal - TechCrunch 

Why Airbus is betting big on hydrogen combustion08 Mar 202300:35:30

As the largest aircraft manufacturer in the world, Airbus is in a unique position to drive aviation towards a zero-emission future.  

In this episode, we talk to Amanda Simpson, Vice President for Research & Technology (Americas) at Airbus. She shares how the airframer is at the forefront of investing in new technologies and innovations that pioneer the sustainability spirit, chief among them being hydrogen.

Simpson says that over the past decade Airbus has tried a variety of different technologies and the company now firmly believes that hydrogen has the potential to offer a true clean fuel solution. We’ll learn about Airbus’ marquee ZEROe programme that includes as many as three concept aircraft of varying ranges and capacities that will run on hydrogen and could enter service by 2035. We’ll also learn about the role of sustainable aviation fuel, infrastructure challenges with hydrogen, the necessity of clean-sheet design and why hydrogen is more exciting than hydrogen-electric and all-electric designs.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversations we had with WIZZ Air’s Yvonne Moynihan on how the airline is using the latest Airbus aircraft to reduce emissions. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Airbus ZEROe programme

The ZEROe demonstrator - Airbus

Interview with John-Paul Clarke, Co-Founder of Universal Hydrogen - Sustainability in the Air

Interview with Val Miftakhov, CEO of ZeroAvia - Sustainability in the Air

Universal Hydrogen takes to the air with the largest hydrogen fuel cell ever to fly - TechCrunch 

Airbus prepares for its first megawatt-class hydrogen fuel-cell engine flight-test demonstrator 

Hydrogen for aircraft: number crunching the solution, or the hoax - Hydrogen Science Coalition


The company transforming CO2 into clean alcohols and fuel28 Feb 202300:29:50

Did you know that Air Company is using thin air to make sustainable aviation fuel, vodka, perfume, sanitiser and more? 

In this episode, we talk to Gregory Constantine, Co-Founder and CEO of  Air Company, who believes that the path to a sustainable future lies – quite literally – in the air. He shares how the company uses the planet’s most abundant pollutant and turns it into a never-ending resource.

We’ll learn how Air Company’s patented carbon utilisation technology aims to free us from over a century-long dependency on fossil fuels by mimicking photosynthesis to utilise CO2 to produce sustainable alcohols and fuel. Their goal is to apply their technology across all possible industries: from the fragrances we wear everyday, to the jet fuel that moves us around the world. 

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Carbon Capture Technology: CO2 Conversion & Utilization - Air Company 

Air Vodka: The 100 Best Inventions of 2020 - TIME

TAKE-OFF Consortium EU

Air Company Awarded Additional NASA Funding  

This jet fuel was made by sucking carbon out of the air - Fast Company 

Report: The Carbon Removal Power List - SimpliFlying 


How Boeing has been working on a net zero future for over a decade22 Feb 202300:50:51

Since aviation remains, more or less, as good as its tools, aircraft manufacturers bear a huge responsibility, especially as we rely on fleet renewal in the short-term to mitigate the carbon impact of aviation.

In this episode, we talk to Boeing’s Vice President of Environmental Sustainability, Sheila Remes who shares how the airframer is collaborating with industry stakeholders to move aviation towards its 2050 net zero goal. 

We’ll learn how Boeing has been busy preparing for the future, whether it is through its ecoDemonstrator flight test program or its dynamic data-model called Cascade for estimating a pathway to net zero or through its impressive repertoire of cross-sectoral partnerships. 

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Sustainable aircraft from NASA, Boeing could fly in 2030s 

Boeing Sugar Volt looks to the skies in the year 2035

Boeing: ecoDemonstrator 

Net-Zero Reached? Virgin Atlantic Plans A 100% SAF Passenger Flight Next Year 

Biofuel-powered, laser-loaded Boeing plane of the future visits FedEx hub 

Biochar: the 'black gold' for soils that is getting big bets on offset markets 

Boeing Unveils Model to Show Best Routes to Zero Carbon Future

Waypoint 2050 


The airport of the future will be carbon positive, not just carbon neutral15 Feb 202300:40:44

Representing the interests of airports and airport operators across the world, Airports Council International (ACI World) fosters collective action within the industry. With nearly 712 members, and operations spanning 1,925 airports in 171 countries, ACI World contributes to the safety, security and sustainability of global aviation.

In this episode, we talk to ACI World’s Director General Luis Felipe de Oliveira who explains how, as significant emitters of greenhouse gases, airports play a pivotal role in aviation’s journey to net zero. 

On average, airports account for roughly 5% of aviation’s carbon footprint. Airports have varying carbon footprints due to their geographical, cultural and economic intricacies. This, as Luis Felipe puts it, makes each airport a mystery that needs to be understood and unlocked in its specific context. 

We'll learn about how ACI World is nudging airports to be more sustainable through their six-level carbon accreditation programme; the promise and pitfalls of hydrogen and sustainable aviation fuel; the solar energy and green building ecosystem; and the need for the industry to communicate its achievements and challenges as one cohesive unit.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:


The Airport Carbon Accreditation Programme

List of Accredited Airports

Airport Carbon and Emissions Reporting Tool (ACERT)

Swedavia Annual Sustainability Report 2021

Shining a Light on Solar Energy

ACI & ATI launch joint report into the integration of hydrogen aircraft into the air transport system

ATI & ACI World launch new SAF paper


The airline with the lowest CO2 emissions in Europe08 Feb 202300:51:54

Hungarian low-cost airline Wizz Air has taken the ultra low-cost model a step further to pursue growth and sustainability in tandem. 

In this episode, we talk to Wizz Air Group’s Chief Corporate & ESG Officer, Yvonne Moynihan, about how the carrier has reduced its per seat carbon footprint by 15% since 2019, despite having grown by a remarkable 140% since the pandemic!

We'll learn about why fleet renewal can help airlines achieve significant short-term emissions reduction and how Wizz Air focuses on young travellers and undertakes radical measures and advocacy to stay ahead of its competitors.


Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Wizz Air Confirms 75 Airbus A321neo Order

Wizz Air and OMV sign an agreement to supply sustainable aviation fuel

Wizz And Airbus To Collaborate On Hydrogen Aircraft Operations

Wizz Air CEO Calls For Global Ban On Business Class Flying

Wizz Air joins European Commission’s Alliance for Zero-Emission Aviation

Cirium's Global Aircraft Emissions Monitor 

How do you decarbonise a major airport?01 Feb 202300:45:42

Dubai International Airport is one of the largest in the world, so reducing its environmental impact is not an easy feat. In this episode we talk to CEO Paul Griffiths about his brilliant approach of focusing relentlessly on constant improvement, no matter how small.

We'll learn about maintaining a net zero trajectory, working with airlines and Paul's personal commitment to living a net zero life.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content about sustainable aviation visit our website simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Dubai Airports - Corporate Social Responsibility

Dubai Airports to divert 60% DXB’s waste from landfills by mid-2023


Dubai International Airport sets goal to reduce landfill waste by 60 per cent


Cirium's Global Aircraft Emissions Monitor 


Avoiding the Greenwashing trap01 Dec 202200:42:08

Dirk Singer, Head of Sustainability at SimpliFlying shares how airlines can tackle climate activism and flight shaming while investing in sustainable initiatives.

How Heart Aerospace is rewriting the rules of new aircraft development12 Jun 202500:39:56

In this episode, we speak with Anders Forslund, Co-founder and CEO of Heart Aerospace, who shares the radical transformation his electric aircraft company has undergone in the past year — relocating from Sweden to Los Angeles and fundamentally changing how aerospace companies operate in the 21st century.

Forslund discusses:

  1. Why Heart moved its operations to the US despite strong European roots, driven by the need to access customers, suppliers, and investors in the world’s largest aerospace market.
  2. How the industry’s talent crisis stems from decades without clean sheet aircraft development, and why bringing in top performers from SpaceX, Tesla, and other mission-driven technology companies is essential for attracting the right talent.
  3. Why all aerospace companies are actually software companies, given that most aircraft delays and crashes today stem from software issues rather than structural failures, and how this demands in-house control of software.
  4. Why companies should actively take on uncertainty rather than minimise it, viewing adaptability as more crucial than strength or intelligence in today’s rapidly changing world.
  5. How the loss of regional connectivity serves as the “canary in the coal mine” for broader industry problems, and why this represents the natural entry point for introducing new technology and training the next generation of aerospace talent.

Forslund also reveals his seven-rule framework for modern aerospace product development and explains why focusing on building rather than predicting the future is the key to success.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Daniel Rosen Jacobson, Co-Founder & Co-CEO of Elysian Aircraft, who discusses the startup’s unique approach to electric aviation. Check it out here

Learn more about the startups, strategists, and sceptics working to close the gap between growth and green ambition in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air: Volume Two’. Click here to learn more.


Links & more:

Heart Aerospace 

Heart Aerospace unveils full-scale 30-seat hybrid-electric aircraft demonstrator - GreenAir News 

Heart Aerospace relocates headquarters to Los Angeles - AviationSource News

Heart Aerospace to Launch World’s Largest Fully Electric Aircraft in 2025 - Aviacionline 

An incredible journey around the world on sustainable fuel24 Nov 202200:52:03

Matthias Niederhäuser shares how Diamondo Earthrounding connects and promotes initiatives to accelerate sustainable aviation.

How sustainable aircraft seats can be a game-changer 17 Nov 202200:43:27

Dr Mark Hiller, CEO at Recaro, discusses the company's localisation strategy, the promise of eLeather, upcycling and much more.

Why the aviation industry needs to embrace the circular economy10 Nov 202200:53:19

Ramon Sanchez, Principal Investigator at Harvard University urges the industry to work with academia for better sustainability strategies and explains why waiting for SAF to be cheaper is a "lousy strategy".

The promise and challenges of the Power to Liquid (PtL) pathway for SAF03 Nov 202200:39:00

Christoph Wolff, one of the founders of the World Economic Forum's Clean Skies for Tomorrow Coalition, explains why SAF underpins the long-term sustainability prospects for aviation.

How Amex GBT is building platforms for SAF and Carbon Offsets27 Oct 202200:45:41

Nora Lovell Marchant, Vice President of Global Sustainability at American Express Global Business Travel (Amex GBT), shares how the company is preparing for a net zero future through various initiatives.

Why ZeroAvia believes that hydrogen propulsion is the future19 Oct 202200:57:15

Val Miftakhov, CEO of ZeroAvia, a startup working on hydrogen propulsion technology, discusses how the best path to a net zero future is via non-combustion fuel technologies.

How Fiji Airways is preparing for a sustainable future13 Oct 202200:33:17

Andre Viljoen, CEO of Fiji Airways discusses the challenges of being in an ecologically sensitive region and how that ties into the airline's sustainability strategy.

Why Heart Aerospace's electric aircraft is a gamechanger06 Oct 202200:55:22

Anders Forslund, CEO of Heart Aerospace discusses the ES-30 and how regional electric air travel can revolutionise aviation.

For more information click on sustainabilityintheair.com. 

How Star Alliance is facilitating a net-zero future in aviation29 Sep 202200:52:06

Jeffrey Goh, CEO of Star Alliance, shares how the alliance is supporting airlines in stepping up their sustainability game.

For more information click on sustainabilityintheair.com. 

Can Boom bring supersonics back sustainably?22 Sep 202200:43:50

Blake Scholl, CEO of Boom Supersonic, on the revival of supersonics, associated challenges, using 100% SAF and learning from the Concorde.

Why JetZero believes blended wing body aircraft are essential for net-zero aviation29 May 202500:52:24

In this episode, we speak with Tom O'Leary, CEO and co-founder of JetZero, which is developing the world's first commercial blended wing body (BWB) aircraft that promises to revolutionise aviation efficiency and passenger experience.

JetZero is one of the visionary companies featured in our new book Sustainability in the Air: Volume Two. You can learn more about the book and order a copy here.

O'Leary discusses:

  • JetZero's mission to bring the first all-wing jet to market by the early 2030s, touting its unbeatable 30% aerodynamic efficiency advantage.
  • How the BWB design achieves up to 50% reduction in fuel burn and emissions through optimised lift across the entire wingspan, reduced drag, lower weight from carbon composites, and integration with existing single-aisle-sized engines.
  • Strategic partnerships with the U.S. Air Force and NASA for dual-use development, plus collaboration with major suppliers like RTX (Pratt & Whitney) and airlines including Delta and Alaska.
  • Revolutionary passenger experience features including eight-foot ceilings, six boarding aisles, dedicated personal storage space, and wider seats across all classes.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Dr. Christoph Gebald, Co-founder and Co-CEO of Climeworks, who talks about scaling direct air capture technology and its vital role in sustainable aviation. Check it out here

Learn more about the startups, strategists, and sceptics working to close the gap between growth and green ambition in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air: Volume Two’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & more:

New book: Sustainability in the Air, Vol Two - SimpliFlying

JetZero 

United Invests in JetZero, Could Acquire 200 Blended Wing Body Aircraft - FLYING Magazine 

JetZero Pitches Blended Wing Body Tanker as 'Game-Changer’ - A&SF Magazine

‘Daunting but not impossible’: JetZero endeavors to deliver world’s first ‘all-wing’ commercial jet - Flight Global 

Sustainability In The Air (2 book series) Paperback Edition - Amazon 

How Climeworks is making Direct Air Capture a viable decarbonisation pathway - SimpliFlying

Farnborough special vol. 2: What's the source of the biggest hope and what's the one initiative aviation executives are the most excited about getting to net zero?28 Jul 202200:25:58

In this special episode recorded Live at Farnborough Airshow, hear from top aviation executives on what gives them the most hope about a net zero future for aviation and what is the one initiative that they are most excited about getting us to a sustainable future.

Sean Breadshaw, Pratt & Whitney
Arturo Barreira, Airbus Latin America
Jane Ashton, easyJet 
Jonathan Wood, Neste
Laia Barbara, WEF
Lauren Riley, United
Nicolas Chrétien, Airbus
Patrick Baudis, MHI RJ
Sheila Remes, Boeing

Farnborough special: What are the biggest hurdles aviation executives face getting to net zero?21 Jul 202200:22:18

In this special episode recorded Live at Farnborough Airshow, hear from top aviation executives on the biggest hurdles the industry faces in building a sustainable future. 

Akbar Al Baker, Qatar Airways
Arturo Barreira, Airbus Latin America
Jane Ashton, easyJet 
Jonathan Wood, Neste
Laia Barbara, WEF
Lauren Riley, United
Nicolas Chrétien, Airbus
Patrick Baudis, MHI RJ
Sheila Remes, Boeing

Will the aviation industry ever achieve net-zero?23 Jun 202200:22:49

We revisit the first season of our podcast and string together advice and insights from airline and tech CEOs to map out a pathway for the future of sustainability in aviation.

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