Emma Burlow talks with Sarah Mukherjee, CEO of the Institute of Sustainability and Environmental Professionals, about the pressures facing sustainability professionals, the business case for climate resilience, AI, public engagement, optimism, and why failure is part of progress.
In this episode
- Why professional standards matter in sustainability, and how ISEP evolved from IEMA 01:10
- How ISEP supports more than 21,000 members across over 120 countries 05:43
- What the latest State of the Profession report reveals about political headwinds, resilience, and funding 08:29
- Why businesses are reframing sustainability as resilience, risk management, and business continuity 08:40
- The insurance and finance implications of weak climate adaptation plans 11:19
- Sarah Mukherjee’s advice: “Plan for 2, stress test for 4” degrees of warming 14:16
- How sustainability professionals can bring climate risk into boardroom conversations 16:53
- Why blaming and shaming people over flying can alienate the audiences sustainability needs to reach 19:40
- Focusing on material emissions and savings instead of treating every intervention as equal 25:51
- The opportunities and risks of AI for sustainability professionals 29:18
- Why AI-generated work still requires professional judgement, accountability, and human oversight 30:33
- The case for optimism, even when progress feels slower than the challenge 35:34
- Why sustainability professionals need permission to experiment, fail, learn, and try again 41:38
Key quotes“Plan for 2, stress test for 4.”Sarah Mukherjee explains how organisations can test whether their business models remain viable under more severe climate conditions 14:16.“If you save carbon, if you save inputs, it’s going to save money.”Sarah Mukherjee makes the case for connecting decarbonisation with resource efficiency and business savings 26:13.“The way of losing it is to give up.”Sarah Mukherjee reflects on the importance of persistence in sustainability work 38:12.“The most important thing you can do is fail and then recover.”Sarah Mukherjee discusses resilience, career setbacks, and the role of failure in professional development 42:30.Listen for
Emma Burlow and Sarah Mukherjee challenge narrow sustainability messaging and argue for a more practical focus on resilience, business continuity, material emissions, financial risk, and solutions that people can realistically adopt 24:25.
Sarah Mukherjee MBE | LinkedIn
ISEP - Institute of Sustainability and Environmental Professionals
State of the Profession - ISEP
Book a Power Hour with Emma
https://calendly.com/emma-lighthouse/power-hour
Connect with Emma
Website
Email
Emma Burlow | LinkedIn