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The State of Sustainability podcast is back!
16 Sep 2025
00:00:49
We've spent the last few months working on improvements to the podcast, lining up a fantastic selection of guests to help us discuss a wide range of topics in the sustainability space.
SoS #47: Sustainability Layoffs & Restructures: What’s Really Going On?
08 May 2025
00:25:11
We've been hearing whispers about this trend for months, and now it's time to address it head-on: sustainability teams across major corporations are being restructured, downsized, or absorbed into other departments. In this episode, we dive into this critical shift that's affecting sustainability professionals worldwide. We cover:
The dramatic shift from the sustainability hiring boom of 2-3 years ago to today's restructuring wave
Which sustainability roles are most vulnerable (hint: it's not who you might think)
Where sustainability functions are being relocated within organisational structures
Whether this integration is actually good for sustainability's long-term impact
Practical advice for navigating your career during this transition
We're going on a season break and will be back with you in June.
SoS#38: Bridging Finance and Sustainability: HEINEKEN’S Blueprint
20 Feb 2025
00:31:07
In this episode, Saif Hameed and Kathryn McLeod, Head of ESG Reporting at The HEINEKEN Company, discuss practical approaches for transforming sustainability commitments into funded realities. They explore how to:
Improve finance - sustainability collaboration:
Strategic governance frameworks that drive effective reporting and collaboration
Battle-tested approaches for building credibility with finance teams
Practical tools for embedding sustainability expertise in finance operations
Master sustainable finance:
Success factors for securing and maximising sustainability budgets
How to handle budget cuts and mid-year financial reviews
Proven metrics and tools that make the business case stick - even without immediate returns
Who needs this:
Essential listening for sustainability professionals seeking financial backing and finance leaders stepping into ESG. McLeod unpacks HEINEKEN's approach to transforming sustainability from a cost centre to a value driver.
SoS#37: The Strongest Arguments for Sustainability
13 Feb 2025
00:28:32
In today’s episode, we dive into the shifting world of sustainability and its clash with capitalism. We’ll cover:
Sustainability & Capitalism: Can they coexist in today’s unapologetic capitalist system?
Why Sustainability is Under Fire: Criticisms and confusion—what’s fuelling the backlash?
The Business Case: Why sustainability is essential for business—resource scarcity, regulation, and more.
Reframing for Leaders: How can sustainability leaders better align with business goals?
Strategic Priorities: What should CSOs focus on over the next 5 years to ensure long-term success?
SoS#36: Should You Set Science-Based Targets?
06 Feb 2025
00:23:02
In today’s episode, we discuss the future of Science Based Targets (SBTs) - whether they’re still relevant, what’s going wrong and what alternatives are out there. Tune in as we explore:
What’s really happening with the Science-Based Targets Initiative
What changes are needed to restore confidence in SBTs
Alternatives to target-setting that are gaining traction
Predictions for the future of SBTs in 2025. Companies that are most likely to pull out
SoS #35: Decarbonising Manufacturing
30 Jan 2025
00:28:45
In this episode, Saif Hameed is joined by Colin Browne, CEO of Cascale and former COO of Under Armour, for a no-nonsense conversation on the apparel industry's sustainability shift. Colin shares key leadership and collaboration strategies for driving this change.
What you'll learn:
Effective leadership principles: Tips for preparing to meet with your CEO on sustainability — what to consider and how to get buy-in.
Decarbonise manufacturing: The optimal brand partnership approach to accelerate decarbonisation with manufacturers, without bogging them down with excessive audits.
The new supply chain: How to rethink sourcing and supply chain design with smart, sustainability-driven criteria, like renewable energy reliability.
Monetise sustainability: Easy ways to turn decarbonisation into a business opportunity, enhancing brand equity and capturing market share.
SoS #34: 2025 Sustainability Data Management Big Bets
23 Jan 2025
00:33:01
As 2025 approaches, the landscape of climate data management is evolving rapidly. In this episode, we unpack two big bets and two red herrings that sustainability professionals need to know about:
Big bets for 2025:
Emission factors will become commoditised: Expect new databases to emerge as EF providers overprice their offerings.
Data security will drive siloes: As accuracy improves, stricter data sharing policies will fragment data access.
Red herrings to avoid:
Generative AI will fix everything: Don’t buy the hype.
Real-time data is a must: Weekly or monthly data is far more practical.
Shownotes:
State of Sustainability Food & Bev Summit Chicago, March 19th 2024: Register here.
SoS #33: Data, Farmers, and Product Innovation: Maia Reed on Scope 3
16 Jan 2025
00:34:28
In this episode, we sit down with Maia Reed, Global Climate Data Lead at Mars Petcare, to explore how one of the world's largest companies is tackling carbon reduction within agriculture supply chains.
What you’ll learn:
Setting Up Carbon Reduction Projects: Insights into leveraging supplier relationships to overcome implementation challenges.
Bridging Data Gaps: Tackling data scarcity with tailored management approaches and grassroots solutions.
Balancing Compliance vs. Impact: Navigating the trade-offs between inventory and intervention strategies.
Empowering Farmers: Using carbon insights to improve livelihoods and inform sustainable sourcing.
Innovation in Action: Embedding sustainability into R&D, with a focus on alternative proteins.
SoS #32: 2024 Corporate Sustainability Unwrapped
09 Jan 2025
00:33:18
Saif Hameed explores the biggest announcements, trends, successes and failures of 2024. He breaks down:
The explosive growth of Product Carbon Footprints (PCFs) and their impact on supply chains
Why PCF exchange is lagging behind PCF generation and what this means for businesses
The return of secondary data in emissions reporting and how to balance it with primary data
Packaging as the new zone of collaboration for emissions reductions
Why procurement teams need more support to meet increasing sustainability requirements
Tune in to get to grips with these trends and learn how to get ahead for 2025.
Related resources:
How to Set Up a Useful Product Carbon Footprint (Guide)
SoS #31: 5 Steps to Credibly Recognise Scope 3 Reductions
19 Dec 2024
00:31:47
In this episode, Saif Hameed explores how businesses can credibly deploy and account for Scope 3 emission reductions. He breaks this down into five key steps:
Setting up data
Identifying interventions
Implementing projects
Measuring and tracking progress
Validating and verifying results
Along the way, we tackle challenges like mass balance measurement, avoiding double counting, and preparing for frameworks like Land Sector Removals Guidance (LSRG). Tune in for actionable insights to navigate Scope 3 reductions with confidence.
SoS #30: Scalable Farm Level Initiatives with Danone
12 Dec 2024
00:30:34
Join Saif Hameed and John Lee, Director of Nature and Mission Sustainability at Danone, as they discuss the best approach to prioritising and scaling farm-level reductions for carbon and crucially, nature. In this episode, we explore:
Empowering Procurement: How to effectively engage procurement teams and align behind shared sustainability initiatives
Collaborating with Suppliers: The role of Product Carbon Footprints (PCFs) and supplier-centric emission sharing in fostering collaborative partnerships.
Accelerating Innovation: The process of testing pilot programs and prioritising those with the greatest potential for scale-up.
Leveraging Customer Demand: How to harness growing consumer interest in sustainability to reduce emissions through collaborative efforts.
SoS #29: H&M’s Big Bet on Sustainable Supply Chains (And Why It’s Working)
05 Dec 2024
00:28:22
Paul Goff, Traceability and Sustainability Product Manager at H&M shares how the fashion giant is using technology to unlock transparency, decarbonise its supply chain, and set a new standard for sustainability in the apparel industry. From navigating global supply chain complexities to fostering lasting partnerships with suppliers, Paul dives deep into the practical steps H&M is taking to drive change. In this conversation, we discuss:
Managing apparel supply chain complexities: How H&M manages the complexities of a global supply chain and what companies can learn from their approach
Supply chain engagement: The key to successful supply chain engagement—what works for both H&M and their suppliers, and how to make these partnerships last
Production decarbonisation: How to approach decarbonisation at the factory level and on a larger scale
Digital tech: How H&M is using technology to increase supply chain transparency, improve traceability, and hold suppliers accountable for sustainability goals
Innovation: How H&M prioritises finances and scales innovation to meet their sustainability goals
Who is the "sustainable consumer," and what drives their choices? In our first-ever consumer insights survey, we uncover:
The profile of the sustainable consumer
How consumers prioritise what they put in the shopping basket
What “sustainability” means to them
The most trusted sustainable brands—and why they stand out
In this episode, we reveal the key findings and share actionable strategies for professionals to incorporate these insights into their sustainability efforts.
Who were the respondents?
Our survey spanned a diverse demographic:
Age: 50% were aged 25–34, followed by 28% aged 35–44
Gender: 58% male, 42% female
Geography: The majority hailed from the US (23%) and UK (23%), with representation from India (10%), France, Canada, and Australia (6% each), and others (26%)
Living Environment: 70% resided in urban areas
Income: 70% reported household incomes between $40–99k
Dietary Habits: 65% had no dietary restrictions, while 19% identified as vegetarian
We'll be scaling this survey in 2025. Keep an eye out!
SoS #26: Stepping into Sustainability Leadership with Greencore
31 Oct 2024
00:30:30
We’re joined by Fran Haycock, Head of Sustainability at Greencore, to discuss the key considerations when leading a successful sustainability transformation.
We cover:
Strategy alignment: How to ensure your sustainability transformation aligns with the broader business objectives
Sustainability team set-up: The priority qualities and skills to consider when recruiting and developing your sustainability team.
Leadership style: How to evolve your leadership style as your sustainability program matures.
Budget management: Effective strategies for developing, securing and scaling a sustainability budget.
SoS #25: A Model for Scalable Collaborations
25 Oct 2024
00:31:21
Collaboration may not be a silver bullet for solving sustainability challenges, but when executed effectively, it becomes a powerful tool. In this episode, we cut through the buzzwords and focus on practical steps for scalable collaboration, exploring:
Types of collaboration: Challenges and opportunities associated with within-value-chain collaboration, across-value-chain collaboration, and pre-competitive collaboration.
When, where and who to collaborate with (and not): How to identify the right opportunities and partners—and when it’s best to go solo.
Creating collaborative initiatives that scale: Key components for setting up partnerships that can scale (not just multiply).
Who takes the credit? Innovative tools and accounting practices like differentiated product carbon footprints to verify reductions in collaborative efforts.
Budgeting, resources and incentives: Monetary (price premiums, 3rd party financing) and non-monetary incentives (long off-take agreements) to sustain collaboration.
In this episode, we discuss the surging popularity of Product Carbon Footprints (PCFs). We cover:
The PCF Boom: The rapid growth of PCF generation
PCF value: Where PCFs deliver value and where they fall short.
PCF challenges: The key challenges to be aware of when generating and sharing PCFs.
Data readiness: How to balance PCF demands with data accuracy and confidence
PCF set up: Practical guidance on generating and sharing meaningful PCFs
SoS #23: Emission Factors 101
10 Oct 2024
00:33:12
The majority of businesses calculating baselines use less than >10k emission factors (crazy).
What does this mean?
It means emission calculations aren't accurate and decarbonisation efforts remain invisible.
In this episode we get to the bottom of this and discuss:
EF Recap: what is an EF and how is one developed
Current State of Play: Understanding the current landscape of EF usage and challenges.
The EF Dilemma: Balancing consistency and accuracy in EFs.
EF Types: Deciphering the differences between supplier-specific and secondary EFs
Primary Data: The role and need of primary data collection in EF development.
Solutions and Trends: Discovering innovative approaches to accurate EF calculation and future trends in the field.
SoS #22: How to Manage and Motivate a High Performing Sustainability Team: Part 2
03 Oct 2024
00:37:02
In the second part of this two part series, we discuss essential leadership strategies to supercharge your sustainability team. We cover:
Team retention: How to retain and motivate top talent in a competitive market
Skill development: Where and when to invest in upskilling
Performance metrics: What metrics and bonus schemes are useful to track and implement
Headcount budget and resource management: How to optimise team resources
Team culture: Observed tactics for building team culture from Nando's and Starbucks
SoS 21: Set Up a High Performing Sustainability Team: Part 1
26 Sep 2024
00:38:27
In this two-part series, we dive deep into the essential components of creating and managing a world-class sustainability team.
In part one, we discuss:
Core characteristics: The key attributes contributing to a well-structured and effective sustainability team.
Must-have roles: The indispensable positions that every sustainability team needs to function optimally.
Internal vs. external: When to prioritise internal hiring and when to seek external expertise through consultants or software.
Budgeting: How to secure the necessary headcount budget for your sustainability team.
Attracting talent: The best strategies to attract top talent
SoS #20: FLAG Explained
19 Sep 2024
00:36:12
Saif Hameed and Piers Cooper, Senior Sustainability Research Manager (LCA) at Altruistiq discuss FLAG, what it is, if you should prioritise it, and if you do prioritise it, how to maximise your ROI. They cover:
A recap: What is FLAG and the measurement requirements
Strategic importance: When and why should a company prioritise FLAG over other sustainability initiatives
Measurement challenges: The primary FLAG challenges and solutions to overcome them
Commercial opportunities: How to leverage FLAG to create competitive advantages and unlock commercial opportunities
Trend watch: The upcoming changes to FLAG and trends to be aware of.
SoS #19: De-Risk Your Agricultural Supply Chain
12 Sep 2024
00:39:57
In this episode, we explore current agricultural supply chain risks and mitigation measures. We cover:
Emerging threats: The macro and micro risks and specific commodities most vulnerable to climate-related disruptions.
Building resilience: Strategies to strengthen your supply chain.
Environmental data impact: The impact on your environmental data and the role of technology to mitigate these risks.
Business case: How to value and communicate risk to bolster your sustainability business case.
SoS #45: Has the Sustainability Bubble Burst?
24 Apr 2025
00:36:12
In short… yes. But is that really a bad thing?
In this week’s episode, we ask whether the hype around sustainability is deflating, and what that means for progress.
We dive into the latest headlines:
Is the UK on the brink of scaling back its climate ambitions?
Are we stuck in a loop of ever-rising energy demand?
What's next for sustainability-linked executive pay?
PLUS: A climate tech reality check.
Is climate tech entering its "trough of disillusionment"? Saif unpacks why corporate budgets are tightening, which solutions are struggling, and what climate tech founders need to hear.
SoS #18: Must Listen: Product Carbon Footprint Crash Course with Huel
05 Sep 2024
00:58:55
Saif Hameed and Jesica Sansom, Sustainability Director at Huel discuss how to set up product carbon footprints (PCFs) to deliver real business value.
We cover:
Data collection: The challenges and workarounds in collecting the granular data needed for reliable PCFs
Actionable insights: Best practices for using PCF to inform sustainable product design
Supplier collaboration: How Huel are fostering innovative solutions with suppliers e.g., rethinking ingredient production methods & running field trials with oat farmers
Claims & comms: How to communicate and demonstrate sustainability progress and why product labelling is not the silver bullet solution.
SoS #17: Are you making the wrong sustainability decisions?
29 Aug 2024
00:36:39
In this episode, we highlight the common mistakes that sustainability professionals make and sound out the solutions. We discuss:
Market insight: Is SBTi still credible?
Mistake trends: The most common pitfalls that sustainability professionals face.
Root causes: The underlying reasons behind these mistakes.
Data challenges: The limitations of working with aggregate data and best practices for overcoming them.
GHG to PCF: How professionals can effectively gather and manage supplier data for greenhouse gas emissions reporting.
Commercial opportunities: Understand the benefits and competitive advantages
SoS #16: Turn Colleagues from Bystanders into Sustainability Champions with Arla
22 Aug 2024
00:40:26
Camilla Riddiford, Head of Sustainability at Arla UK, shares her advice on how to turn colleagues from bystanders to sustainability champions (without breaking the bank or your sanity).
In this episode, we discuss:
Tailored communication strategies for diverse audiences
Effective content formats that resonate
Balancing data and narratives for a compelling business case
Prioritising upskilling, and training programs for key teams
The complex structure of supply chains can make tracking the impact of sustainability-related interventions a challenge. Supplier-specific information is often lacking and/or hard to come by. However, a lack of traceability shouldn’t deter companies from efforts to drive progress.
There's a solution: supply sheds.
This episode dives deep into:
What is a supply shed, and how can it help you overcome challenges in reduction tracking
The benefits of using supply sheds include incentivising traceability and enabling collaboration.
Challenges to consider, like changes in your supplier base and attribution of reductions.
Recommendations for companies, from identifying key suppliers to monitoring interventions.
Is the supply shed here to stay?
SoS #14: Green Claims: A Challenger Playbook with Oatly
08 Aug 2024
00:42:08
Does the world on-pack green claims make you nervous?
We get it. Green claims are a minefield.
Today, we're bringing in a veteran of bold sustainability messaging to help us navigate the dark and somewhat dangerous world of sustainability comms. Shaunagh Duncan, Head of Sustainability at Oatly EU & I walks us through making strategic green claims, teaching us when to push boundaries and when to play it safe.
We cover how to :
Define a bold and impactful communication style
Walk the line between “greenwashing” and “green hushing”
Approach on-pack PCFs
Capitalise on the commercial opportunities of carbon labelling
Show notes:
According to a recent study, Oatly Barista sold in the UK has a 58% lower climate impact than comparable cow’s milk.
From: Blonk Consultants (2022), LCA of Oatly Barista, and comparison with cow's milk. Gouda, the Netherlands. Stages include raw material to the point of sale and packaging waste management for average L *produced in the Netherlands and sold in the UK. Findings are subject to assumptions, limitations, conclusions, and critical review statements. See full report here.
SoS #13: Plastic vs Paper, Methane Feed Supplements and EVs
25 Jul 2024
00:37:10
We bust the 3 of the biggest sustainability myths in the industry:
Myth 1: We should be fazing out plastic
Myth 2: Feed supplements are the silver bullet to methane reduction
Myth 3: The future of ‘green transportation’ should be electrified.
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SoS #12: Unfiltered Reflections on a 20+ Year Sustainability Career | Saif Hameed
18 Jul 2024
01:00:34
This episode dives into the 20+ year career of Saif Hameed, an activist, government official, NGO co-founder, flower farm owner, and now CEO of Altruistiq, a sustainability data management platform.
We explore how his experience equips sustainability professionals to engage stakeholders across sectors for change. We discuss:
Saif's Journey: Lessons from activism, government work, NGO experience, and business ventures inform a robust approach to sustainability
Engaging Stakeholders: Collaboration techniques across activists, government officials, NGOs, and suppliers to accelerate change.
Why Altruistiq: The inspiration behind Altruistiq and what makes it different
SoS #11: Sustainable Packaging Trade offs with Mondelēz
11 Jul 2024
00:45:21
Saif Hameed and Patrick Shewell, Global Director of Packaging at Mondelēz, discuss balancing an iconic brand image with bold sustainability packaging goals. In this episode, we dive into:
Balancing trade-offs between product functionality and sustainability
EPR policy inconsistencies and how to manage these across 150+ markets.
Prioritising packaging initiatives: no brainer vs higher cost initiatives
Strategies for collaboration with packaging suppliers
How to pitch your PCF internally to R&D, Marketing, and commercial teams
How to pitch your PCF externally to customers and consumers
SoS #7: Make your Sustainability Reporting Easier
30 May 2024
00:40:02
In this episode, we discuss:
Key regulatory reporting trends: the evolving landscape, AI and what it means for your business.
How to optimise your reporting team: best practices for setting up a high-performing, reporting team.
Collaboration tips: strategies for working effectively with finance and legal on reporting.
How to streamline your approach: tools, data infrastructure and ways of working to improve your reporting process.
SoS #6: McCain's Radical Regenerative Ag Program
24 May 2024
00:41:02
Saif Hameed and Audrey Leduc, North American Director for Planet Friendly Practices at McCain Foods unpack how to scale regenerative agriculture. They discuss:
Measuring impact: the key indicators and data points needed to track and demonstrate progress against regenerative agriculture
Building strategic partnerships: principles for identifying and developing partnerships (that will last)
Farmer engagement toolbox: how to successfully engage farmers and make regenerative agriculture attractive
Financial solutions: innovative financing solutions to tackle upfront costs
Communication strategy: compelling B2B and B2C communication techniques to drive engagement and commercial value.
*Please note that the activation initiatives mentioned (time stamp: 34:12) in the franchises in Canada are with A&W, not Burger King.
SoS #5: The Biggest Trends to Watch in F&B Sustainability
16 May 2024
00:30:13
Off the back of our flagship sustainability event in Chicago, where we hosted 70+ F&B sustainability professionals working on sustainability data challenges in the agri value chain, a few key trends emerged. In this episode, we dig into:
- “Action first - reporting second”.
- Qualities of the “best” kind of decarbonisation initiatives
- Data transparency is very different between B2B vs B2C
SoS #4: Setting Up and Using Carbon Pricing
09 May 2024
00:42:15
How to make sure your circularity initiative is revenue-generating
How to set a carbon cost
How do you utilise carbon pricing when data in the supply chain at the product level is sparse?
Saif Hameed and Pedro Lafargue, Global Climate Action Manager at OFI discuss:
The principles for a successful insetting project
The level of data accuracy needed for compliance vs action
How to track and account for carbon removals (when standardisation is lacking)
Best practices for monetising carbon insetting projects
SoS #2: Sustainability on a Budget: How to Do More with Less
18 Apr 2024
00:39:12
Market highlight:
How the SEC’s climate disclosure ruling impacts your business
Topic deep dive: A playbook on how to:
Build a strong business case for sustainability
Optimise team set up to unlock resources
Boost company-wide sustainability literacy and buy-in
SoS #1: Sustainability Data: Driving Engagement and Making Claims
11 Apr 2024
00:55:52
NEW SEASON LAUNCH.
This season will include the latest corporate sustainability market highlights followed by problem-solving deep dives on all flavours of challenges that sustainability practitioners face.
In this episode, we cover:
Market highlights:
Corporate black sliding on climate pledges
The Greenwashing clamp down and how to make water-tight claims
Topic deep dive: Effective sustainability data comms
Internal communication and engagement tactics for sustainability data buy-in
External comms: how to demonstrate progress to stakeholders
Any challenges that we've missed? Get in touch with content suggestions and we'll cover them off in our next episode.
SoS #14: Get the Most Out of Your Insetting Program
21 Mar 2024
00:58:07
In this episode, we discuss how to:
Launch effective Farmer Reduction Plans: Lessons from McCain and Innocent
Prepare for supply chain disruptions, drawing learnings from the recent cocoa crisis
Navigate insetting challenges, specifically how to avoid competitors ‘free riding’ off your reduction initiatives
Maximise the value of your insets
Make reductions work at farm level (multi year contracts)
SoS #13: The Upskilling Procurement Playbook
07 Mar 2024
00:49:34
We cover:
The latest market highlights:
They key themes across corporate sustainability reports
SoS #43: Building the World’s Largest Corporate Coral Reef Restoration Program
10 Apr 2025
00:33:23
What does it take to build a successful coral reef restoration program? In this episode, Saif Hameed dives into SHEBA®’s groundbreaking coral restoration program with Mars’ Chief Marine Scientist Prof. David Smith and SHEBA®’s Global VP of Marketing Mindy Barry. Points covered:
Business + Science = Impact: How applying process engineering to conservation created unprecedented restoration scale
Project set up: Why success starts with understanding local needs, empowering communities, and tailoring interventions to context
Measuring what matters: Beyond basic coral counts, why and how the team tracks ecosystem health, skills transfer, and ROI.
Practical takeaways: Consumer insights, cross-team collaboration, and stakeholder alignment strategies
SoS #11: From Chasing Data to Driving Impact: 4 Key Steps
25 Jan 2024
00:42:16
Description:
This episode aims to set listeners up with a credible and sensible approach to sustainable data transformation, covering how to:
- Prioritise data sets and manage against targets
- Solve for digitisation, granularity, flexibility, and usability in your infrastructure build
- Streamline interactions with other systems and organisations- Establish optimal relationships with tech teams and third-party providers.
SoS #10: The Supplier Engagement Formula: From Survey Fatigue to Actionable Data
10 Jan 2024
00:34:15
Supplier engagement more often than not results in low response rates and unusable data. Sound familiar? This podcast sets to solve this by breaking down:
What’s happening today: Mass surveying, “one platform rules them all” and an unrealistic push for “universal primary data”.
Where we want to get to: Data you can actually use.
How to get there: Supplier contracts, blended procurement models, strategic upskilling, secure supplier data exchange (PACT)
Key learnings from the transition
SoS #9: Live from COP28: Fixing the Food System with Henry Dimbleby
21 Dec 2023
00:30:54
A conversation with Henry Dimbleby and Saif Hameed at COP28, covering:
Regenerative agriculture: what exactly regenerative agriculture means, how to fund it and how to implement it
Optimising for supplier engagement and primary data use
How far corporate influence goes when it comes to on sustainability regulations, frameworks and standards
A roaming COP28 megaphone kicks in halfway through - bear with us.