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Social Protection Podcast is brought to you by socialprotection.org. We’re a knowledge sharing and capacity building platform, open to social protection practitioners, policy-makers, and experts, as well as academics and students. Social protection is a large and growing field, that has also achieved increased profile and salience since 2020 due to COVID-19. From building delivery systems and protecting People with Disabilities, to social protection financing and school feeding – there is no shortage of topics for Social Protection Podcast to tackle. Each month we will aim to bring you rich, interesting and different content. Through interviews, discussions and debates with experts and practitioners, Social Protection Podcast will illuminate new research and bring a range of perspectives to debates and controversies as well as areas of growing consensus.

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Sustainable Oceans Start with Secure Livelihoods | Social Protection for Fisheries Series Part I

Épisode 75

mardi 20 octobre 2026 • Durée 38:30

Globally, fisheries and aquaculture make essential contributions to nutrition and food security, income, livelihoods, and economies, particularly through the small-scale fisheries sector, which directly employs 60 million people, supports nearly 500 million livelihoods, and provides over half of all fish consumed worldwide. Yet, despite these contributions, small-scale fishers and fish workers often face unequal access to resources and opportunities, precarious working conditions, unstable incomes, market and value-chain pressures, limited access to social protection, and growing exposure to economic and environmental shocks. Together, these challenges can undermine livelihoods and contribute to unsustainable outcomes for both fishing communities and aquatic ecosystems, which raises an important question: How can efforts to protect our oceans also protect the communities that depend on them?

In this first episode of the Social Protection for Fisheries series, we explore the connections between social protection, livelihood security, and environmental sustainability in small-scale fisheries. Through practical examples, our guests discuss how social protection measures, including compensation mechanisms linked to fisheries management and conservation efforts, can help reduce vulnerabilities, support income stability, and enable sustainable fishing practices. The episode also highlights the role of markets and fishers’ organizations and explores how stronger registries and interoperability can help extend social protection to fishing communities.

Meet our guests: 

Daniela Kalikoski, Fishery Officer and Equitable Livelihoods Team Lead, Fisheries and Aquaculture Division, Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO)
Fabio Veras, Researcher, Brazil's Institute for Applied Economic Research (IPEA)
Wendy Norton, Director of Global Programs, Global Ocean Conservation, Monterey Bay Aquarium

💬 Your feedback and ideas for the podcast are always welcome. Share your suggestions on topics to cover, resources, or guest recommendations.

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Ep. 66 | Building Trust: Can Social Protection Strengthen Social Cohesion?

Épisode 74

lundi 5 octobre 2026 • Durée 46:55

Beyond reducing poverty, can social protection build trust – within communities and between citizens and the state – and help hold societies together? In this episode, we discuss the relationship between social protection and social cohesion.

Drawing on research from Ethiopia, Malawi and beyond, our guests explore why cash transfers can help restore social ties and institutional trust in some settings, while creating perceptions of unfairness and tensions in others. The conversation looks at what makes the difference, from transparent targeting to community participation and communication, and asks how policymakers can support social cohesion without expecting social protection schemes to achieve what they cannot do alone.

Meet our guests:

Francesco Burchi, Senior Researcher and Project Leader, German Institute of Development and Sustainability (IDOS)
Kibrom Abay, Senior Research Fellow, Development Strategy and Governance Division, International Food Policy Research Institute (IFPRI)

For our Quick Wins segment, we talked to Social Protection Specialist and researcher Nourjelha Elhag. In her recently published article, she explores the potential of zakat to complement national social protection systems, drawing on research from Pakistan and Jordan.

💬 Your feedback and ideas for the podcast are always welcome. Share your suggestions on topics to cover, resources, or guest recommendations.

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Ep. 65 | Beyond the Cost: Why Investing in Social Protection Matters

Épisode 73

mardi 22 septembre 2026 • Durée 47:50

As part of socialprotection.org’s 11th anniversary, this episode explores the central question behind the campaign: what does society stand to lose when we do not invest in social protection?

Too often framed primarily as a public expense, social protection can play a critical role in reducing poverty and inequality, expanding access to opportunities, and helping people and economies withstand and recover from shocks. When adequate protection is not in place, the consequences can extend across the life course and across societies, reinforcing vulnerability, limiting inclusive development, and weakening social cohesion.

Drawing on evidence and examples from different contexts, this episode delves into the social and economic returns of investing in social protection, from early childhood, care and informal employment to economic inclusion and crisis preparedness. What are the wider costs of leaving people without adequate protection? How can stronger, universal systems contribute to resilience, productivity and more equitable opportunities? And what does it take to build and expand social protection systems when governments face competing priorities and limited resources?

Meet our guests:

Laura Alfers, International Coordinator, WIEGO
Dominic Richardson, Managing Director, Learning for Well-being Institute
Jamele Rigolini, Senior Advisor for Social Policy, The World Bank

For our Quick Wins segment, we spoke with Sherine Al-Shawarby, Professor of Economics at Cairo University and Dean of the Faculty of Political Science, Economics and Business Administration at May University in Cairo, who discussed the ongoing debate around bread subsidy reform in Egypt

💬 Your feedback and ideas for the podcast are always welcome. Share your suggestions on topics to cover, resources, or guest recommendations.

Ep. 64 | Subsidies and Social Protection Part II: Reforms for a Sustainable Transition

Épisode 72

mardi 4 août 2026 • Durée 49:24

In the context of global price shocks, governments often turn to subsidies to shield households and businesses from rising costs. While subsidies can provide immediate relief, they are also among the most contested policy instruments. Given how costly they are to sustain, subsidies often have regressive distributional impact making them notoriously difficult to reform.

In this concluding episode of our two-part discussion on subsidies, we explore why subsidy reform remains one of the most politically and economically challenging issues in social policy. If there is broad agreement that resources could often be used more effectively through targeted social protection, why do subsidies continue to persist? What political, institutional, and social factors make reform so difficult? And what lessons can be drawn from countries that have successfully transitioned towards more equitable and efficient systems?

We also examine the role of social protection in making the reforms feasible. As governments seek fiscal space to strengthen social protection systems and respond to economic, climate, and other shocks, compensatory cash transfers and adaptive social protection have increasingly been presented as viable alternatives to broad-based subsidies and strong enablers of a successful reform.

Meet our guests:

Dr. Neil McCulloch, Director, The Policy Practice
Tara Moayed, Governance and Social Development Consultant

For our Quick Wins segment, we spoke with Shaun Baugh, Programme Manager at Caribbean Community (CARICOM) Secretariat who shed light on the implications of the “Super El Niño”, alongside other climate and global shocks, for food security and vulnerable populations in the region.

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Publication | Intersecting Global and Regional Shocks: Implications of the Middle East Crisis and El Niño for Food Security in the Caribbean

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Ep. 63 | Subsidies and Social Protection Part I: Crises Response

Épisode 71

mardi 7 juillet 2026 • Durée 44:04

Over recent decades, global shocks such as the Global Food, Fuel and Financial Crisis of 2007–2009, the COVID-19 pandemic, and the war in Ukraine, have driven countries to rapidly scale up social protection measures, including subsidies, to cushion households from rising food and energy prices. Increasing attention has also been placed on shock-responsive measures to address climate disasters and other crises. The recent conflict in the Middle East and disruptions to energy infrastructure and oil exports through the Strait of Hormuz have once again highlighted the vulnerability of global energy and food systems. While oil flows have resumed, markets are expected to stabilise over time, with continued impacts on energy prices, agricultural inputs and household budgets.

In this first episode of a two-part discussion on subsidies, we draw on recent analyses to explore why such policies continue to account for over half of global responses to price shocks despite their regressive nature and significant fiscal costs, and what it would take to strengthen social protection systems as more effective and sustainable alternatives. Why do governments continue to rely on subsidies despite these challenges? What prevents social protection systems from playing a larger role during crises? And what would it take to build systems that can respond more quickly and effectively when the next shock hits?

* This episode was recorded on 17 June 2026. While we recognize that there have been further developments in the Iran-US peace talks, the discussions in this episode remain relevant and continue to provide valuable context.

Meet our guests:

Giovanna Mazzeo Ortolani, Social Protection Specialist, FAO

Yannick Hemmerlé, Economist, OECD Economics Department

For our Quick Wins segment, we spoke with Marina Carvalho, Project Manager at socialprotection.org, who introduced some of the key features and improvements of the new socialprotection.org platform, launched in June! We invite you to explore the new platform and join us in growing the world's leading knowledge-sharing community on social protection!

Ep. 62 | Disability and Inclusion: Rethinking Social Protection Systems for All | Social Inclusion Series Part III

Épisode 70

jeudi 4 juin 2026 • Durée 41:02

In this episode of the Social Inclusion Series*, we explore how social protection systems can support greater inclusion for persons with disabilities across the Asia-Pacific region. Most of them face multiple and interconnected barriers, ranging from inaccessible environments and social stigma to the high costs of healthcare, assistive technologies, and care. When these needs go unmet, they can lead to increased risk of poverty, reduced participation in education and employment, and diminished well-being for individuals and their families.

This episode examines how governments and communities are working to address these challenges. We unpack “cash-plus” approaches that combine income support with health coverage, assistive devices, and care services, and look at how countries, especially in Southeast Asia, are designing more inclusive and responsive forms of support..

Meet our guests:

Abner Manlapaz, Senior Associate of Center for Inclusive Policy (CIP)
Charles Knox-Vydmanov, Social Policy Specialist (Inclusive Social Protection – Disability), UNICEF

For our Quick Wins segment, we spoke with Sam Drummond, the host of the podcast ‘Building Inclusion’, a limited podcast series that highlights the voices shaping the future of disability inclusion in Australia.

*The Social Inclusion Series, produced by socialprotection.org in partnership with Australia’s Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT), is a three-part series that explores how social protection systems can advance the economic and social inclusion of vulnerable populations across the Indo-Pacific, in line with GEDSI principles, addressing key themes such as gender equality, demographic shifts, and disability inclusion.

Resources:

Multimedia | Building Inclusion: Australia’s Disability Strategy

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Ep. 61 | Ageing Societies and the Future of Care in Asia and the Pacific | Social Inclusion Series Part II

Épisode 69

lundi 11 mai 2026 • Durée 45:25

In this second episode of the Social Inclusion Series*, we explore how ageing populations are reshaping social protection needs and development across Asia and the Pacific. While demographic trends vary widely across the region, countries are increasingly facing issues on how to support income security, health, care, and dignity in later life.

The episode explores the links between ageing, pension systems, and the care economy, which has long relied on women’s unpaid labour, including how family-based care is coming under increasing pressure from migration, urbanisation, and changing social and economic conditions. Drawing on examples from the Asia-Pacific region, with a closer look at the experience of Fiji, our guests discuss how social protection can evolve to complement family and community support, reduce poverty, and strengthen resilience across the life course.

Meet our guests:

Philip O’Keefe, Professor of Practice, Centre for Population Ageing Research (CEPAR), University of New South Wales
Jesse Doyle, Senior Social Protection Specialist (Economist), P4SP**
Ms Rozia Bi, National Coordinator - Social Protection Reforms, Fiji Ministry of Women, Children & Social Protection

For our Quick Wins segment, we spoke with Meghna Ranganathan, Associate Professor at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, who shared insights on how the impacts of social protection interventions on intimate partner violence and household dynamics evolve over time, and reflected on more inclusive approaches to research and evidence.

**P4SP stands for Partnership for Social Protection and it is a program funded and supported by the Australian Government. More information .

Ep. 60 | Supporting Adolescent Girls Through Social Protection: a Turning Point for Inclusion | Social Inclusion Series Part I

Épisode 68

vendredi 10 avril 2026 • Durée 39:58

In this first episode of the Social Inclusion Series*, we shine a spotlight on adolescent girls. Adolescence is a turning point—but one that often goes overlooked in social protection. These years are filled with major transitions, especially for girls, who often face greater challenges in staying in school, taking on care responsibilities, navigating sexual debut, and making decisions about their futures. These challenges are often driven by underlying gender inequalities and poverty, which shape and often constrain these pathways.

In this episode, we explore how social protection can help shift that trajectory. Focusing on risks such as child marriage and early pregnancy, we unpack how well-designed programmes can support girls to stay in school, access essential services, and navigate this critical stage of life with greater security. It also discusses how crisis—from economic shocks to climate change—can deepen risks, making already fragile transitions even more uncertain for adolescent girls.

Our guests dive into the evidence on what works providing some examples in Asia and worldwide and discuss why investing in adolescent girls is key to building more inclusive, resilient and climate-adaptive societies.

Meet our guests:

Kath Ford, Deputy Director, Young Lives Research Program, University of Oxford

Dr. Nyasha Tirivayi, Social Policy Manager, UNICEF Office of Strategy and Evidence-Innocenti

For our Quick Wins segment, we spoke with Eunice Tumwebaze, who is the Manager for Gender, Youth, and Children at the Kampala Capital City Authority in Uganda, who provided and overview of the Uganda's first urban social protection program for girls called “Girls Empowering Girls”.

Ep. 59 | Social Protection and Humanitarian Assistance in Forced Displacement Settings

Épisode 67

jeudi 5 mars 2026 • Durée 44:53

Between 2015 and 2025, the number of displaced people worldwide nearly doubled. Today, more than 123 million people are forcibly displaced globally, including around 42 million refugees. Many of the countries that host refugees internationally are low- or middle-income, often lacking adequate social protection systems for their own citizens, let alone for displaced populations. As conflicts become increasingly protracted, displacement now lasts for years, or even decades, turning forced displacement from a short-term emergency into a long-term development challenge.

Given this background, the episode explores how perspectives on forced displacement have evolved, shifting from a primarily humanitarian concern to a broader development issue. It examines how social protection systems can be expanded to better include refugees, and discusses the opportunities and challenges of approaches that bridge humanitarian and development responses within social protection frameworks.

This month’s episode marks five years of the Social Protection Podcast. Over this time, the podcast has brought together voices from a wide range of institutions, countries, and perspectives to explore the evolving debates, policies, and practices shaping social protection worldwide. Since its launch, the podcast has released 70 episodes, including five special series, and reached thousands of listeners in over 180 countries. This milestone reflects the commitment of our guests and partners, as well as the dedicated work of the socialprotection.org team and its collaborators. And, of course, to you, the listener: thank you for being part of this journey!

Meet our guests:

Mattia Polvanesi, Senior Social Protection Officer, UNHCR

Pablo A. Acosta, Lead Economist for Social Protection and Global Lead for Migration, World Bank Group

Sarah Hague, Senior Advisor and Global Coordinator, Economic and Social Policy Global Practice, UNICEF

For our Quick Wins segment, we spoke with Lauren Whitehead, Lead on Inclusive Social Protection and Gender, UNICEF, who shared key outcomes and takeaways from the Gender-Responsive Social Protection Symposium.

Ep. 58 | Ending Hunger and Poverty: The Role of the Global Alliance

Épisode 66

vendredi 6 février 2026 • Durée 46:11

The Global Alliance against Hunger and Poverty, launched under Brazil’s G20 Presidency in 2024, seeks to accelerate progress towards ending extreme poverty and hunger while tackling inequality. Bringing together over 200 members including governments, international organisations, and other partners, the Alliance aims to mobilise political commitment, align public and private financing, and promote evidence-based policy solutions that are country-led and centred on those most affected.

In this episode, we unpack the Alliance’s mandate and early achievements, explore how it supports countries in identifying needs and scaling proven policy instruments, and discuss what lies ahead as the Global Alliance moves from coordination to large-scale implementation.

Meet our guests:

Renato Domith Godinho, Director, Global Alliance against Hunger and Poverty Support Mechanism Kevin Watkins, Visiting Professor at the London School of Economics

In our Quick Wins segment, we speak with Raphaël Duteau, Manager for AI and Data Ethics at Employment and Social Development Canada, about the opportunities Artificial Intelligence presents for social protection. He also shares insights on the AI Hub launched under the Digital Convergence Initiative.

References:

Resource | Global Alliance against Hunger and Poverty

Resource | AI Hub

Webinar recording | The AI Hub for Social Protection - supporting responsible AI in social protection

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