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Tech Trends, Toddlers, & Tribalism with Chris Hackney25 juil. 202500:35:45

What does it take to turn social media into a serious business driver for B2B companies? Chris Hackney, Chief Product Officer at Meltwater, joins the show to unpack how his team connects social engagement to pipeline and revenue. In this episode, we dive into Meltwater's approach to content strategy, channel differentiation, and analytics that prove impact across the funnel. Chris also shares how his team structures workflows, leverages influencer voices, and balances brand personality with professionalism in a global enterprise.

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Chris joins hosts Zontee Hou and Jennifer Harmon on this episode of Social Pros to share how Meltwater's social media strategy drives real business outcomes, especially in the B2B space. He breaks down how the team maps social content to different stages of the funnel, tailors messaging by channel, and uses data to prove the impact of social on both awareness and pipeline. Chris discusses how Meltwater's global team balances centralized governance with regional execution, and how they tap into employee voices and influencer partnerships to expand reach and relevance.

Chris also shares lessons from recent initiatives like their Meltwater Champions program, and explains why social media teams should think more like editorial hubs than traditional marketing arms. Chris reflects on the rise of AI in social workflows—calling it "in its toddler phase"—and urges marketers to stay curious as the tools mature. He also shares his take on where social apps are headed next, predicting even deeper tribalism and fragmentation across platforms. All that and more on an all-new episode of Social Pros!

In This Episode:

  • 1:50 -  Protecting your brand and earn back trust in the face of disinformation
  • 6:02 - Opportunities for AI in marketing and communications  
  • 10:56 -  Chris's advice for success in human team members meeting AI technology
  • 14:41 -    How to connect one-to-one when platforms are constantly changing 
  • 17:51 -  How Chris manages which platforms to invest time, energy, and money into
  • 20:12 - Using tools like media intelligence to stay on top of trends 
  • 22:34 - Producing a framework to keep on top of the things you need to know, and how to empower your team to react in real time
  • 31:24 - Chris's advice for aspiring social pros

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Challenging the Status Quo in Social Strategy with Jermaine Peguese11 juil. 202500:44:10

How do you build a higher education brand that feels personal, relevant, and rooted in real-world value? Jermaine Peguese, Owner and Lead Strategist of EJST Marketing, shares how his team taps into authentic storytelling, community conversations, and industry voices to connect with today's learners. From launching content series like Next Pulse at Nexford University to shaping market strategies with startup agility, Jermaine shows how higher ed marketers can think big, take risks and challenge the status quo.

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Jermaine joins host Zontee Hou on this episode of Social Pros to explore how marketing in higher education can be reimagined by leaning into authenticity, community, and social influence. Jermaine and Zontee discuss how today's students aren't just looking for facts, they're also looking for real voices they trust and want to see themselves in the stories being shared. Whether it's through expert-led content like Nexford's Next Pulse series or conversations in online forums, Jermaine shows how the most powerful messages come from relatable, human experiences.

He also shares how his time at Uber shaped his fast-moving, test-and-learn mindset, and why marketers should stay open to bold ideas— even late in the quarter. When entering new markets, Jermaine emphasizes the value of doing the groundwork: understanding your audience, and building a smart media mix that puts your message in the right places. It's not about being perfect; it's about being real, being thoughtful, and being ready to take a few smart risks, because that's where breakthrough moments happen.

In This Episode:

  • 1:55 -   Disrupting the traditional space of higher ed marketing
  • 6:27 -   Building a unique brand voice in the higher ed space 
  • 8:45 - How Jermaine's team has catered to non-traditional learners
  • 11:51 -   How to identify core customers 
  • 15:39 - How Jermaine thinks about data collection and customer research as an ongoing practice 
  • 18:52 -  Using AI in the traditionally AI-adverse higher ed space, and how AI can help marketers in this moment 
  • 23:59 - Tapping into communities, social groups and others influencing prospective students 
  • 29:22 - Lessons from Uber, and what higher ed can learn from the startup world
  • 31:48 - Solving problems when moving into a new marketing space
  • 37:16 - Jermaine's advice for aspiring social pros

Resources:

 

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Wags, Whiskers, and Cause-Based Wins with Virginia Chavez + Bonus Interview with Jenny Force27 juin 202500:57:04

How do you turn a nonprofit's mission into a heartwarming and impactful social media experience that resonates and inspires action? Virginia Chavez, Content Manager at PetSmart Charities, joins the show to share how her team uses authentic storytelling to inspire and build community around pet adoption. She explains how they tailor content by platform, foster meaningful engagement, and prioritize stories that reflect their values. Virginia also emphasizes the power of collaboration, showing how relying on your team can turn big, ambitious ideas into impactful, resonant content. This episode also features a bonus interview with Jenny Force, Global VP of Demand Generation at Meltwater, who speaks with Zontee about their recent Meltwater Summit.

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Virginia joins host Jennifer Harmon on this episode of Social Pros to share how her team at PetSmart Charities uses storytelling to spotlight their mission of keeping people and pets together. She dives into the creative strategy behind their "11 millionth adoption" campaign—framed like a reality dating show—and how it was tailored differently for each major social media platform. Virginia also explains how collaboration, pre-planning, and staying true to the brand's authentic voice help their content resonate across audiences. She and Jennfier discuss the importance of bringing others into the creative process early, and relying on your team for feedback, support, and ideas that make the work stronger. It's an inspiring look at how social teams can turn mission-driven content into powerful, heartwarming stories that drive real-world impact! 

Then, host Zontee Hou sits down with Jenny Force, Global VP of Demand Generation at Meltwater, to discuss key takeaways from the 2025 Meltwater Summit. She shares the top trends shaping marketing and PR today—including AI, agility, brand authenticity, influencers, and misinformation—and explains how brands can stay ahead by using data, embracing collaboration, and leaning into strategic experimentation.

In This Episode:

  • 3:21 -  PetSmart Charities and their mission
  • 5:46 -  Virignia's role as Content Manager
  • 7:42 - Balancing hybrid roles in digital and social
  • 11:40 -   Balancing efficiency and automation while still humanizing the brand 
  • 15:02 - How to secure employee & executive participation for social
  • 20:40 - The reality show-like 11 million adoptions campaign
  • 26:29 - Successful pre-production to help campaigns thrive
  • 28:38 - Taking the leap on ambitious ideas
  • 31:05 - The importance of collaboration in all types of storytelling
  • 33:56 - PetSmart Charities' social strategy described in one sentence
  • 34:31 -  How authentic social media work fits into big-picture brand strategy 
  • 38:10 - Andy's advice for aspiring social pros
  • 41:40 - Interview with Jenny Force of Meltwater

Resources:

 

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Your AI Maturity Check with Andy Crestodina of Orbit Media Studios13 juin 202500:39:21

How can marketers harness AI to improve their strategy while also staying irreplaceably human? Andy Crestodina, co-founder and CMO of Orbit Media Studios, joins the show to explore the real-world applications (and limitations) of AI in content marketing. From using AI for gap analysis and persona development to identifying the skills machines can't replicate, Andy shares actionable advice for marketers at every level of AI maturity.

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Andy joins hosts Zontee Hou and Jason Keath on this episode of Social Pros to chat about how marketers can level up their skills and stay competitive in the fast-evolving world of AI. He shares tactical insights on prompt libraries, custom GPTs, and why automation is the next frontier for marketers looking to work smarter and faster. Andy also explains why peer-to-peer conversations and informal mastermind groups are critical for learning in this space, and are often more impactful than staying glued to industry news. Andy also dives into creativity in the AI era and reflects on how to use AI not for perfection, but as a springboard for bolder, more human ideas.

Perhaps most importantly, Andy challenges marketers to take ownership of their growth, warning against waiting for organizational change and encouraging listeners to build their own intellectual property through tools like custom GPTs. You won't want to miss this all-new episode that's a must-listen for anyone navigating the evolving intersection of technology, creativity, and career security.

 

In This Episode:

  • 1:47 -  AI maturity for marketers and why it's important
  • 5:32 -  Knowing the AI proficiency of your team members
  • 8:33 - Using AI to understand our audience better
  • 12:50 -  Andy's examples of gap analysis for content creation
  • 15:15 -  What AI isn't good at, and why it's important to know the limitations
  • 20:10 - How to improve your SEO by creating content that AI can't
  • 24:43 - How to build and leverage your prompt libraries to get ahead
  • 28:21 - Which FAQs Andy receives are worth asking, and which aren't
  • 32:33 - How effective AI is as a creative partner
  • 36:28 - Andy's advice for aspiring social pros

Resources:

 

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From Bland to Bold B2B Content with Joel Harrison30 mai 202500:29:29

How do B2B marketers build genuine trust across the customer journey? Joel Harrison, Founder of B2B Marketing, shares how leading brands are using thought leadership, influencer partnerships, and creative audio to stand out. From award-winning campaigns to vibrant professional communities like Propolis, Joel offers insights that challenge traditional B2B norms. Tune in for a conversation that redefines what it means to connect in the B2B space!

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Joel joins hosts Zontee Hou and Jason Keath on this episode of Social Pros to explore how B2B marketers can embrace creativity, take smart risks, and reclaim the power of brand. He explains why the industry is shifting toward long-term brand building and trust as key drivers of growth. Joel also shares why bravery is now one of the most valuable qualities for B2B marketers, and how storytelling and strategic thinking are making a strong comeback.

Joel, Zontee and Jason also dive into the growing role of influencers in B2B, the power and resonance of audio content to build emotional connections, and how the best campaigns often come from clear-minded boldness. Joel also reveals how the most effective marketers today are balancing performance with purpose—and even weighs in on which B2C tactics don't translate to B2B.

In This Episode:

  • 1:48 -  The anti-corporate creativity trend
  • 2:26 -  Favorite examples of  creative anti-corporate campaigns 
  • 3:51 - Is there a clear line of going too far with this kind of work?
  • 6:25 - How brands can do better at standing out creatively
  • 8:09 -  How  organizations can wade into this influencer space by building trust and to coming off authentically
  • 10:08 -  How to successfully cultivate thought leadership internally 
  • 13:27 -  Thought leadership as part of full funnel marketing
  • 15:33 -  Why engagement and conversion respond so well to creative content
  • 16:07 - Tactics to get creative campaigns approved by CFOs, CMOs
  • 18:20 - Upcoming trends in the awards submissions space
  • 19:37 - What B2B can learn from B2C
  • 21:30 - Challenges with trust that B2B organizations face
  • 23:20 - The successful use of creative audio in the B2B space
  • 27:36 - Joel's advice for aspiring social pros

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The ROl of Authenticity with Joseph Perello, CEO of Props16 mai 202500:31:01

How do you combine the power of creator marketing with performance-driven results? Joseph Perello, CEO of Props, shares how his platform helps brands create content that's not only authentic but also measurable and effective. From emphasizing credibility to redefining how success is tracked in the creator economy, Joe -- who's also worked with such high-level clients as David Bowie, AAA, and the New York Yankees -- offers insights into making influencer partnerships truly impactful.

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Joseph joins host Hannah Tooker on this episode of Social Pros to explore how the creator economy is redefining influencer marketing and what brands need to do to adapt. Joe breaks down the key differences between creators and traditional influencers, highlighting the pitfalls of the outdated "follower fallacy" and the importance of pairing creator content with paid media to drive measurable results. He also shares how Props is helping brands and creators build trust at scale using AI-powered tools that ensure creator authenticity, compliance, and brand safety.

Joe also reflects on the evolution of viral marketing, the reality of sustaining attention online, and why consistent, data-driven content is more valuable than chasing fleeting hits. Plus, he offers practical advice for aspiring social pros on blending analytical insight with creative instinct to craft effective campaigns. And in a memorable moment, Joe shares his dream video call pick and the heartfelt story behind it. All that and more on an all-new episode of Social Pros!

In This Episode:

  • 1:41 -  Joe's career so far and how Props works
  • 6:33 -  How Props uses storytelling as its marketing foundation 
  • 12:00 - Thinking about creators differently than influencers and how Props measures success
  • 14:17 - Client success stories, from AAA to College Ave
  • 18:04 -  The biggest pitfalls in influencer marketing 
  • 20:58 -  Where Joes sees creator-driven marketing heading next
  • 25:43 - Joe's advice for aspiring social pros

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Intellectual Property, AI, and Influencers: Decoding the Legal Implications of Marketing in 2025 with Ruth Carter from Geek Law Firm02 mai 202500:37:53
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How can marketers stay creative while steering clear of legal landmines? Ruth Carter (they/them), attorney, writer, and speaker at Geek Law Firm, joins Social Pros to unravel the legal implications of today's hottest marketing trends—from AI-generated content to brand collaborations. In this episode, Ruth shares practical guidance on navigating intellectual property, distinguishing between copyright and trademark, and staying compliant without sacrificing innovation. Whether you're experimenting with UGC or working with creators, this conversation is packed with essential legal insights for every marketer.

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Ruth joins hosts Zontee Hou and Sunny Hunt on this episode of Social Pros to unpack the complex legal landscape marketers must navigate in today's ever-evolving industry. Ruth dives into how marketers and content creators should think about intellectual property, contracts, and copyright issues, especially when AI tools are involved in generating content. They explain why contracts should explicitly address AI use, the importance of transparency in data handling, and how marketers can avoid common legal pitfalls when working with third parties. Ruth also emphasizes the need for proactive data governance, especially in regulated industries, and encourages brands to build collaborative relationships with legal teams from the start — not just as a final approval step. Throughout the episode, they offer clear, actionable advice with their signature wit (jokingly referring to themself as a "professional killjoy") and deliver one of the most practical tips yet for anyone in a service-based business.

In This Episode:

  • 2:29 -  What marketers need to know about protecting IP, and the differences between trademarks and copyright 
  • 5:50 - The specific criteria needed in order to trademark
  • 8:34 -  Leveraging the IP of others for your own purposes without getting into legal trouble 
  • 12:05 - What marketers should have in place in preperation for others to license their content
  • 13:24 - Common mistakes and how people get themselves into trouble with legal
  • 15:02 -  Best steps to take when seeing your IP has been stolen and used illegally
  • 18:32 - How AI-generated content relates to copyright
  • 21:04 - Setting expectations and guidelines surrounding AI in third party-created content
  • 22:34 - What Ruth suggests clients have in their contracts regarding AI
  • 24:25 - How to manage confidentiality surrounding AI
  • 26:48 - Being upfront with your audience about data collection
  • 29:49 -  Managing expectations and guardrails of compliance and legal
  • 33:02 - How and why marketers often hit a wall with their legal teams
  • 35:38 - Ruth's advice for aspiring social pros

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Does Email Marketing Still Matter? Lessons in Humanizing Data and Building Trust with Robbie Fitzwater18 avr. 202500:44:50

Is email marketing a thing of the past, or should it still be a key part of your marketing strategy? To coincide with the launch of C&C's new newsletter, The Trendline, on this episode we welcome Robbie Fitzwater, founder of digital agency MKTG Rhythm. Robbie shares his deep insights into how email and one-to-one communication remain the backbone of any successful digital marketing strategy. Robbie also talks about how to "out-human" big competition by blending creativity with technology, and highlights the value of segmentation and personalizing messaging for different customer segments, and also discusses why his team doesn't hire anyone without AI experience in today's world.

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Robbie joins hosts Zontee Hou and Jason Keath on this episode of Social Pros to dive into the ever-evolving world of email marketing, segmentation, and content creation. He shares how brands can use AI and personalization to deliver highly relevant and engaging experiences for different customer segments, while balancing automation with a human touch. Robbie discusses how MKTG Rhythm leverages AI for content creation, from crafting tailored email sequences to generating creative designs for campaigns. He also explains the importance of understanding customer behavior across multiple channels, maximizing content reach, and driving conversions with data-driven strategies. Robbie highlights that while they can't outscale the giants in their space, they can out-human them, bringing a unique, personal touch to their marketing efforts. All that and more on this new episode of Social Pros!

In This Episode:

  • 2:01 - The value of email newsletters and how they're evolving
  • 4:41 - How frequent email newsletters should go out
  • 7:19 -  Creating newsletters with thought leaders and unique voices vs. a larger brand, and how to choose which one is right
  • 12:45 - How Robbie guides his clients on the importance of email in their overall marketing plan
  • 15:55 -  Robbie's advice on collecting and leveraging customer data through email
  • 19:52 - The importance of SMS and combining it with email
  • 21:45 - Specifics on how to get that additional data and building the consumer profile
  • 24:48 - Great conversion rates on quick-question emails
  • 29:05 -  Robbie's advice for catering to each consumer effectively through storytelling, automation and segmentation
  • 35:45 - What MKTG Rhythm is using AI for, and the importance of their team members having AI experience
  • 41:52 - Robbie's advice for aspiring social pros

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TikTok Tips and Creator Partnership Lessons with Geisha Garcia from U. of Miami04 avr. 202500:40:22

How can universities harness the power of social media to elevate their institution, engage students, and build lasting communities on and off campus? Geisha Garcia, Executive Director of Social Media at the University of Miami, knows the impact of strategic content, influencer partnerships, and community-driven storytelling. In this episode, we dive into how Geisha's team creates authentic, high-performing content, fosters collaboration with students, and integrates social media into broader institutional initiatives. From student creator programs to major brand activations, Geisha shares how social teams can claim their seat at the table and drive meaningful engagement.

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Geisha Garcia joins host Jason Keath on this episode of Social Pros to share how the University of Miami is redefining higher ed social media through authenticity, collaboration, and strategic content creation. She dives into the impact of student creator programs, how her team balances institutional messaging with relatable social-first content, and why engagement is just as important as content itself.

With brand activations playing a bigger role on campus, Geisha explains how social teams can proactively integrate into broader marketing initiatives—rather than reacting after the fact. She also breaks down the power of influencer partnerships, why micro-influencers often outperform big names, and how community management on TikTok is a game-changer.

Geisha also shares how her team stays ahead by fostering collaboration, testing formats like carousels, and pushing for social's seat at the table—ensuring it remains a strategic force within the institution.

Stay tuned after Geisha's interview for a conversation with Jason, Zontee and Sunny about Convince & Convert's new newsletter, The Trend Line.

In This Episode:

  • 1:55 - UMiami's social partnerships with other universities
  • 7:15 - Successes and lessons learned from UMiami's TikTok account
  • 8:31 - UMiami's new student creator program and how it operates
  • 15:24 - How Geisha and her team found the current students in the creator program
  • 17:54 - How the student creators benefit from the program
  • 20:30 - The social strategy for UMiami's centennial celebration, and how it's been executed
  • 24:40 - Community management on TikTok
  • 26:05 - Choosing the right partnerships that will resonate with your audience
  • 26:56 - How to correctly collaborate with brands on university socials
  • 29:57 - Geisha's advice for aspiring social pros
  • 32:30 - Zontee, Jason and Sunny discuss C&C's new newsletter, The Trend Line

 

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The Top 5 Marketing Trends for 2025 Based on Research with Todd Lebo21 mars 202500:37:33

How can B2B brands use original research to drive thought leadership and marketing success? Todd Lebo, CEO and Partner of Ascend2, specializes in helping businesses create data-driven content that builds authority and engagement. In this episode, we dive into the top five marketing trends shaping 2025 and how research can be leveraged to craft compelling narratives. From starting with the executive summary to ensuring insights tell a clear story, Todd shares expert advice on how to make research more impactful and actionable.

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As we close out the first quarter of the year, Todd joins hosts Zontee Hou and Jason Keath to not only explore the top 2025 trends shaping B2B marketing, but to also share insights on the ongoing challenges of unifying data across multiple sources and why marketers need to rethink their martech stacks to stay ahead.

Todd also dives into the role of AI in making data more accessible, how companies can maximize the value of research studies, and why marketers should revisit past ideas as technology evolves. Plus, he highlights the power of frontline marketers in uncovering real, actionable insights—and shares a great story about how a simple conversation reshaped the way a financial tool was marketed.

In This Episode:

  1. AI-Powered Content Marketing: Balancing Quality and Quantity (2:28)
    Data Point: Only 32% of marketers consider their content marketing strategy very successful, while 55% cite generating traffic and leads as their biggest challenge​. Source: Content Marketing and AI Report.
    Why It Matters: Marketers need to use AI, not just for content creation but also for improving audience targeting and engagement. AI-driven insights can help refine content strategies for better results.

  2. Influencer Marketing Goes Mainstream in B2B (8:16)
    Data Point: 49% of marketers cite integrating influencer content into a broader mix of marketing tactics as a top trend for 2025. Source: TopRank - 2025 B2B Influencer Marketing Report.
    Why It Matters: B2B influencer marketing is maturing, and brands that integrate influencers into their full marketing strategy will see greater engagement and credibility.

  3. Scaling Marketing Efforts Through AI-Powered Automation (14:06)
    Data Point: AI is being used extensively for content creation (37%), social media management (35%), and chatbot automation (25%)​. Source: The Evolution of AI in Marketing.
    Why It Matters: AI-driven automation enables marketers to scale their efforts while maintaining high-quality engagement across multiple channels.

  4. The Data Confidence Divide: AI, Authenticity, and Revenue Growth (20:08)
    Data Point: 46% of marketers confident in their data strategy reported significant revenue growth, while only 15% of less confident marketers saw the same success​. Source: Anteriad - 2024 B2B Marketing Outlook: The Data Confidence Divide
    Why It Matters: A strong data strategy is a key driver of business growth. Marketers must prioritize data accuracy and AI-driven insights to maintain authenticity and improve engagement.

  5. Data-Driven Marketing: Overcoming Integration Challenges
    Data Point: 63% of marketers rate their data-driven strategy as somewhat successful, while integrating data from multiple sources remains a challenge. Source: Data-Driven Marketing Trends 2024.
    Why It Matters: Data is critical for marketing success, but fragmentation hinders performance. Marketers must invest in AI-powered analytics and automation to streamline their data integration.

  • How to turn data into action (25:46)
  • Todd's advice for aspiring social pros (32:57)
  • Who Todd would most want a video call with (33:59)

Resources 

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How Consumer Insights Lead to Trust at the Weather Channel with Randi Stipes07 mars 202500:39:31

How does the weather influence your daily decisions, from your morning routine to your mood? Randi Stipes, CMO of The Weather Company, understands the profound impact of weather on consumer behavior—and how to harness it for deeper connection and trust with their customers. In this episode, we explore how The Weather Company collects and leverages consumer insights to enhance user experience, inform marketing strategies, and shape content creation. From data-driven storytelling to innovative brand collaborations, Randi shares how her team turns weather-driven moments into meaningful connections.

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Randi joins host Zontee Hou on this episode of Social Pros to discuss how The Weather Channel is using weather data to drive trust with their audience and customers. She explains how weather is the "ultimate contextual accelerant", influencing consumer behavior in unexpected ways (like how a temperature drop in the Ohio Valley can actually boost ice cream sales!)

Randi also shares insights on why B2B businesses need a weather strategy, how The Weather Company is working with content creators to showcase real-life weather impacts, and the brand's partnership with the United Nations on the WeatherKids campaign, a global initiative to inspire climate action through future forecasts.

She also highlights the growing role of social in driving brand authenticity and why every marketer should nurture a strong relationship with their CFO to align strategies and impact -- and gives one of the best answers yet to our "If you could have a video call with any living person, who would it be?" question with a heartwarming story you won't want to miss!

In This Episode:

  • 2:16 - The Weather Company's new brand platform, and the process of rolling it out to achieve their business goals
  • 5:15 - How the brand works with content creators, and how they fit into The Weather Company's ecosystem
  • 7:52 - The different audiences the brand is targeting with their content creator approach
  • 10:38 - How The Weather Channel has changed over the course of its history,  and how Randi is preparing her team for the coming evolution of the digital landscape 
  • 13:48 -  How the brand is thinking about that personalization to give their audience a better expereince
  • 15:52 - Important points for all marketers to keep in mind when building towards registration and ensuring customers see the brand as an ongoing partner in their lives 
  • 19:37 - Things that will be really valuable for The Weather Company and all marketers to think about when collecting information about how customers behave so that a better story can be told to them 
  • 23:14 - How to think about insights that serve  B2B partners, and  why every B2B business needs a weather strategy 
  • 28:4 - WeatherKids, a joint program with the United Nations Development Program and the World Meteorological Organization. 
  • 31:38 - Who Randi would most want a video call with, and the wonderful story explaining why
  • 36:02 - Randi's advice for aspiring social pros

Resources 

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Digging for Gold(en) Social Comments with Matthew McGrory from Arwen21 févr. 202500:35:02

How can brands create safer, more engaging digital spaces while maximizing the impact of their social media efforts? Matthew McGrory, CEO of Arwen AI, shares how AI-driven moderation helps brands protect their communities, reduce toxicity, and improve ad performance. In this episode, we explore how companies like Hinge and Formula One teams work with Arwen to safeguard conversations, enhance customer acquisition, and ensure a brand-safe environment. From tackling online abuse to optimizing real-time engagement, Matthew reveals why a cleaner, more positive digital space leads to stronger connections and better business outcomes.

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Matthew joins this episode of Social Pros to reveal how Arwen is transforming online brand safety and engagement through AI-powered moderation. He dives into how brands work with Arwen to track sponsorship sentiment, tackle online toxicity, and create safer, more welcoming digital spaces.

With social media ads reaching new audiences—sometimes unpredictably—Matthew unpacks how AI-driven moderation helps brands reduce harmful interactions and enhance positive ones. He also shares insights on why a clean, positive online environment leads to better ad performance, stronger audience trust, and increased conversions.

Social pros know that engagement is everything, as long as a brand's digital space feels safe and inviting. Matthew explains how Arwen helps companies automate moderation, ensure brand safety, and turn social media into a place where communities can thrive.

In This Episode:

  • 2:20 - How Arwen works for those in the social sphere
  • 3:04 - What inspired Matthew and his team to create Arwen
  • 5:58 - How social listening has evolved, and how AI is changing it today
  • 9:22 - How these tools help businesses to find more intent-driven comments and sales opportunities
  • 13:36 - How to stay authentic and respond naturally with the use of AI without losing audience trust 
  • 18:24 - Some of the recent projects Matthew and Arwen have been working on
  • 22:03 - Arwen's work with the Hinge dating app 
  • 27:11 - Matthew's recommendations for tools for identifying real-time social response opportunities
  • 32:14 - Matthew's advice for aspiring social pros

Resources 

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The Evolution of the Creator Economy from Attention to Insights with Jamie Ray07 févr. 202500:36:29

How do you turn brand interactions on social platforms into moments that feel personal, meaningful, and community-driven? Jamie Ray, founder and CEO of Buttermilk, knows the secret lies in nurturing the bond between brands and their biggest fans. In this episode, we dive into how Buttermilk prioritize community-first engagement, helping brands create authentic relationships that go beyond transactions. From amplifying brand love to fostering deep connections, Buttermilk's approach proves that when brands invest in their fans, the impact is both powerful and lasting.

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Jamie joins this episode of Social Pros to share how Buttermilk is redefining influencer marketing by putting communities first. He dives into why building strong, lasting connections between brands and their most loyal fans is so important—and how Buttermilk helps brands nurture those relationships in meaningful ways.

With TikTok facing a possible U.S. ban, Jamie unpacks what this means for creators and brands, offering insights on how to pivot, protect communities, and stay ahead of platform changes. He also explores the rise of AI influencers, why human connection will always reign supreme, and whether influencers could soon take on the role of creative directors for brands.

Social moves fast, and brands that truly understand their audiences win. Jamie explains how Buttermilk helps brands move beyond transactional influencer marketing to create authentic, long-term engagement that keeps communities thriving.

In This Episode:

  • 2:02 - Large shifts in the influencer space over the last decade, from just a few big influencers to thousands of micro influencers 
  • 5:39 - Buttermilk being community first and finding tastemakers in communities
  • 8:05 - How Buttermilk nurtures and grows the relationship between brands and their fans
  • 10:25 - How Jamie advises his clients to get customer insights from their biggest fans
  • 12:33 - The beginning of Jamies' career and the origins of Buttermilk 
  • 16:38 - Not getting hyper-fixated on trends in 2025
  • 19:42 - Thoughts and advice on the future of TikTok
  • 22:22 - The flaws of AI influencers in social, and the Gen Z hunger for more real life experiences 
  • 24:40 - The democratization of creativity in marketing teams and brands
  • 29:56 - Jamie's advice for aspiring social pros

Resources 

 

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Leveraging #FOMO to Inspire Action with Tristan Diehl24 janv. 202500:33:26

What are the secrets for managing socials of vastly different properties across the Casino & Hospitality space? Tristan Diehl, Enterprise Director of Social Media at San Manuel Band of Mission Indians (SMBMI), speaks with Zontee and Hannah to reveal how her team manages the social accounts for all SMBMI properties (and the various elements within each one) while also ensuring they're fulfilling both customer and client needs. 

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Tristan joins this episode of Social Pros to share how she and her team create social content to inspire followers to come out to SMBMI properties, including Yaamava Resort & Casino in SoCal and Palms Resort & Casino in Las Vegas, where guests will have exciting, in-person experiences and create lasting memories. 

Tristan discusses using social to change the public's perspective when the property goes through major changes and upgrades. In the case of Yaamava, they've used storytelling and montages to showcase new amenities and entertainment so guests can get a feel for the space before stepping in the resort. With Palms, she and her team were tasked with reviving dormant social media accounts after the property was re-opened under new ownership after several years -- a challenge for even the most experienced social pros.

And now, it's been key to SMBMI to bridge the gap between the properties, while also highlighting the unique qualties of each. Tristan talks about balancing these company needs with the needs of their audience, and finding the perfect trends that will satisfy both. 

 

In This Episode:

  • 3:07 - Tristan shares how she manages social for San Manuel, Yaamava, and Palms, and how the strategy for each property is unique
  • 6:53 - Leveraging FOMO to spark guest excitement for experiences only SMBMI properties can give
  • 9:04 - How Tristan plans content for each of the properties, and how she does her reporting to cater to what followers respond to
  • 11:02 - Balancing the wants of your audience with the wants of your shareholders
  • 15:09 - Betting on an unsure piece of content, and course correcting when something you were hoping was going to hit turns out to misfire
  • 17:32 - Building and upskilling a well-rounded team to expand capabilities
  • 21:13 - Trend work for 2025
  • 25:19 - How to revive long-dormant social accounts
  • 30:22 - Tristan's advice for aspiring social pros

Resources 

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Creating Magical Moments Through Social at Hilton10 janv. 202500:31:00

How do you take a global hospitality brand and make it feel personal, heartfelt, and human? Dannii Ceniceros, Senior Analyst, Global Social Engagement at Hilton, reveals how his team turn trending moments into magical ones. From helping a kitten named Wisp recover safely to gifting a TikTok storyteller their dream trip to London and Paris, Hilton's social media strategy is all about social listening, staying nimble, and creating authentic emotional connections.

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Dannii joins this episode of Social Pros to share how Hilton's social media team stays nimble, leaning into trends and turning them into meaningful moments. He talks about the power of listening to what's happening online and spotting opportunities to make genuine connections with their audience. Hilton's approach is all about little actions that create lasting impressions. These efforts don't just delight current guests, they also catch the eye of future customers, putting Hilton top of mind when it matters most.

We all know social is fast and timing can be everything. Dannii explains how Hilton's team combines teamwork, social listening, and a clear game plan to act quickly when the moment is right. This approach is not about chasing every trend; it's about knowing when and how to show up in a way that aligns with your brand's values. Why? Because it creates memorable moments and magical experiences that feel personal and genuine. 

In This Episode:

  • 1:57 - Dannii's role at Hilton and his team's creative approach to online trends
  • 3:58 - How Hilton helped Wisp the kitten and turned travel stress into a heartwarming moment
  • 8:31 - ReesaTeesa's TikTok journey and Hilton's thoughtful response
  • 12:04 - Why speed and nimbleness are key in social media
  • 12:54 - Using social listening tools to identify opportunities
  • 14:15 - The importance of a vetting process for social initiatives
  • 15:52 - Leveraging data to overcome leadership resistance
  • 16:42 - Leadership's focus on aligning initiatives with Hilton's values
  • 17:46 - The story behind Hilton's viral TikTok trend
  • 20:25 - How defined processes drive Hilton's success on social
  • 22:44 - The Wicked-inspired rooms and their overwhelming success
  • 27:18 - Dannii's advice for aspiring social pros

Resources 

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Social Pros Winter Break20 déc. 202400:00:41
An Honest Conversation About Authenticity with Ravi Hampole13 déc. 202400:34:40

What does it take to refresh a global brand like Lululemon? Ravi Hampole, SVP of Global Brand Creative, returns to Social Pros to reveal how the team has been working on a brand new identity for 2025 that connects products, people, and stories in a way that feels uniquely human. From their three core pillars to balancing authenticity and inclusivity, Ravi shares what it means to build a brand that truly moves.

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Lululemon's new brand identity is more than just a refresh. It's a statement about who they are and the stories they want to tell. At its core is the belief that movement goes beyond physical performance; it's also about emotional and mental well-being. Whether it's the energy of a run, the serenity of yoga, or simply feeling present, Lululemon's approach focuses on connecting with people on a human level.

During his conversation on Social Pros, Ravi shares how the brand uses storytelling to bring this philosophy to life. At the heart of this evolution are three guiding principles: Honest, Playful, and Vibrant. These pillars shape everything from campaign visuals to social media content, ensuring that the brand resonates with audiences on a personal level. Whether it's through light-hearted social media challenges or bold, energetic visuals, every piece of content is designed to inspire joy, movement, and a sense of belonging.

Ravi also highlights the importance of authenticity and inclusivity in shaping Lululemon's global presence. By working with ambassadors who bring their own unique practices and perspectives, the brand ensures their message feels genuine while reflecting the diverse communities they serve. As Lululemon continues to expand, balancing cultural sensitivities and staying true to their values remains a key focus.

In This Episode:

  • 1:42 - Ravi shares what excites him most about Lululemon's new brand identity and its focus on how products and movement make people feel
  • 4:00 - How storytelling bridges the gap between product design and brand identity, with a focus on community connection and authenticity in campaigns
  • 5:30 - The three pillars of Lululemon's new brand identity: Honest, Playful, and Vibrant
  • 9:31 - Ravi explains the balance between authenticity and brand alignment when working with ambassadors
  • 15:18 - The evolution of Lululemon's approach to inclusivity and representation, from showcasing diverse stories to navigating the challenges of global branding
  • 22:42 - How Lululemon evaluates creative ideas to ensure they align with brand values and cultural sensitivities
  • 27:27 - Why training and experience have made Lululemon's team more confident in tackling sensitive topics and balancing inclusivity in campaigns
  • 29:15 - Ravi's advice for aspiring social pros

Resources 

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How Southwest Airlines Navigate the World of Influencer Relationships06 déc. 202400:28:56

Building a successful influencer program isn't just about campaigns. It's about connections. On this episode of Social Pros, Kara Salazar, Senior Influencer Marketing Specialist at Southwest Airlines, takes us behind the scenes of their thriving influencer program. From truly understanding each influencer's unique style to bringing them together for face-to-face events like Creator Day, Kara reveals the secrets to creating campaigns that feel genuine, build trust, and deliver results.

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For Kara Salazar, success in influencer marketing starts with building genuine connections. Since joining Southwest Airlines in 2022, she has focused on creating a program that prioritizes trust and authenticity. Kara doesn't just work with influencers—she makes an effort to know their names, handles, and what makes them unique. This personal touch has turned their influencers into loyal brand advocates who go above and beyond for Southwest.

It's not just about connections; it's about communication. Kara explains that every influencer is different, works differently, and has unique needs. She creates space for honest, two-way conversations, often through feedback sessions designed to refine how they collaborate. These sessions allow influencers to share what works best for them—whether it's receiving a detailed brief or a more visual guide—and ensure that every campaign feels tailored to their strengths. By listening, adapting, and making these adjustments, Kara builds trust and creates partnerships that don't just work—they thrive.

Kara's vision for Creator Day has also been transformative. This annual event brings influencers and the Southwest team together in person to strengthen bonds and gives influencers a deeper understanding of the brand. These face-to-face moments have turned Southwest's influencer program into a true community, delivering campaigns that feel authentic and meaningful.

In This Episode:

  • 1:29 - Kara's role at Southwest Airlines and the origins of their influencer program
  • 3:35 - Rebuilding the influencer program after COVID and proving its value to leadership
  • 5:07 - How Kara measures the success of influencer campaigns
  • 6:21 - Finding influencers who align with Southwest's brand and reflect their diverse audience
  • 8:22 - Building genuine relationships with influencers by getting to know them personally
  • 10:23 - The importance of feedback sessions and tailoring briefs to individual influencer styles
  • 12:12 - Southwest's Big Flex campaign and integrating influencers into large-scale marketing efforts
  • 13:32 - Bridging the gap between marketing teams to scale influencer campaigns
  • 16:08 - Kara's advice for navigating different goals between internal teams and influencers
  • 17:47 - Experimenting with short-term affiliate campaigns to track direct revenue from influencers
  • 20:44 - The story behind Creator Day and how it strengthens bonds with Southwest's influencers
  • 21:41 - How Southwest uses influencers to test new platforms like TikTok before launching as a brand
  • 25:03 - Kara's advice for aspiring social pros

Resources 

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Greatest Hits: How Bennie Johnson Amplifies Magic at the American Marketing Association29 nov. 202400:44:36

As it's Thanksgiving week, we're taking a moment to look back at one of our favorite episodes with Bennie F. Johnson, CEO of the American Marketing Association. In this conversation, Bennie breaks down how AMA supports both academics and practitioners, shares his perspective on AI's ethical and legal challenges, and even explains why LinkedIn is his platform of choice. Most memorably, he highlights why he believes marketing is equal parts art, science, and magic.

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The American Marketing Association is probably an organization you're familiar with, and in this episode, we welcomed none other than the CEO himself, Bennie F. Johnson, for a fantastic conversation. Bennie shares some background of AMA and how it supports those on the academic and practitioner side of marketing.

We hear his thoughts on AI and the ethical and legal considerations that marketing pros need to know about – some of which differ by state and country. Bennie also explains why LinkedIn is the platform of choice for his personal brand and AMA.

Bennie shares his advice for the future marketing leaders out there, and we chat about why marketing today doesn't just belong in the creative realm. There's also a science to it (with a dash of magic too). He outlines how marketing pros can communicate the value of marketing to a wider organization, the importance of taking risks, and his advice for the Social Pros community.

In This Episode:

  • 1:08 - How the American Marketing Association supports the marketing community
  • 4:58 - Why marketers need communities more than ever
  • 7:28 - How marketers can embrace AI
  • 11:00 - What marketers need to know about different privacy regulations
  • 13:13 - Balancing communication with community members
  • 17:24 - How Bennie speaks to future marketers
  • 20:38 - How marketers can communicate their value to a wider organization
  • 24:46 - Why risk and curiosity are key to marketing
  • 29:37 - Leading authentically in marketing
  • 31:23 - Bennie's one tip for those wanting to become a social pro

Resources 

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Why Social Goes to the Dogs22 nov. 202400:31:21

Managing social media for 275 locations might sound like a daunting task, but for Dogtopia, it's a chance to connect with dog lovers everywhere. Toni Teplitsky, Senior Director of Marketing, reveals how her team keeps content fresh, local, and heartfelt—while staying true to their playful brand. From leveraging AI to embracing the power of real, raw storytelling, Toni shares what it takes to stand out in a world full of adorable dog content.

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Dogtopia's social media isn't just about cute dog photos (though there are plenty of those). With 275 locations across North America, Toni and her team have mastered the art of balancing efficiency with heartfelt storytelling.

At the core of their success is authenticity. Whether it's showcasing dogs having the time of their lives with "canine coaches," celebrating local flair with events like Halloween parades, or capturing raw, unfiltered moments of joy, Dogtopia's content feels personal and genuine. It's not about polished perfection—it's about showing the real, messy, lovable lives of dogs and their humans.

Recycling content is another key ingredient in their strategy. Instead of constantly churning out new material, Toni's team leans on high-performing posts from the past, giving them new life and introducing them to fresh audiences. As Toni explains, not every follower sees every post, so why not highlight what already works? This approach keeps their message consistent and their content machine running smoothly.

With a clever mix of repurposed content, local insights, and emotional storytelling, Dogtopia proves that standing out in the crowded world of dog content doesn't mean reinventing the wheel—it just takes a little creativity and a lot of heart.

In This Episode:

  • 2:51 - Tackling social media's constant changes to stay relevant
  • 4:10 - Balancing Dogtopia's corporate brand with local franchise voices
  • 6:12 - How AI helps Dogtopia tweak posts at scale without losing its unique brand voice
  • 7:40 - Creating platform-specific content and why speaking to each platform's strengths is key
  • 8:54 - Feeding the content machine: why UGC and raw, authentic content are outperforming polished professional shoots
  • 11:19 - Ensuring Dogtopia's content breaks through in a sea of dog-focused content online
  • 12:35 - Recycling content: why repetition strengthens your message
  • 14:32 - Making life easier for franchisees: how Dogtopia creates ready-to-use campaign toolkits
  • 16:01 - Messaging that connects with pet parents at every stage, from first-time dog owners to seasoned pros
  • 17:51 - How younger generations are reshaping trends in pet care
  • 20:43 - Smart content strategies for evolving platforms—why "think smarter, not harder" is key
  • 22:40 - The platforms Toni sees the most growth potential in
  • 23:58 - How Dogtopia's foundation supports veterans, students, and adults with autism through the power of dogs
  • 28:23 - Toni's advice for aspiring social pros

Resources 

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Cut Through the Noise with the King of Clarity, Steve Woodruff15 nov. 202400:35:11

Getting your message heard in today's crowded digital world isn't easy, but clarity in communication can make all the difference. Steve Woodruff, the King of Clarity, shares his 4-step formula to help social marketers create impactful, memorable messaging. With insights tailored for a content-saturated landscape, Steve offers practical advice to sharpen your messaging and truly connect with your audience.

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In today's digital chaos, clarity is your secret weapon for cutting through the noise. Steve Woodruff, also known as the King of Clarity, shares how simplifying your messaging can help you grab attention and leave a lasting impact. His 4-step Clarity Formula is designed to help marketers define their message, hook their audience, and ensure their communication hits home.

Steve reveals how understanding the brain's natural filters—like the Reticular Activating System (RAS)—can make your messaging more relevant and engaging. He explains how techniques like crafting "memory darts" and structuring information like a pyramid can help to simplify complex ideas and make your audience remember what matters.

This isn't just about cutting words—it's about connecting on a deeper level. Clarity helps you build trust, align teams, and create messaging that truly resonates with your audience and inspires action. So, whether you're navigating a flood of AI-generated content or cutting back on jargon-loaded messaging, this conversation is your blueprint for clear, effective communication.

In This Episode:

  • 2:23 - Steve introduces himself and shares what he does
  • 4:16 - The importance of clarity in cutting through today's noisy digital landscape
  • 7:17 - How the brain's RAS and WIIFM principles make messages stick
  • 9:20 - Staying authentic and relevant amid AI-generated content—and why clarity is the answer
  • 11:50 - Breaking down Steve's four-step "Clarity Formula" for effective communication
  • 15:03 - How structuring information like a pyramid helps simplify messaging and win over stakeholders while keeping audiences engaged
  • 17:57 - Why timeless communication principles still apply in the age of social media
  • 20:16 - Questions social marketers should ask to ensure their messages are clear and effective
  • 22:14 - Brand examples: what FedEx gets right, and UPS gets wrong about messaging
  • 26:35 - Using "memory darts" to create messaging that drives referrals
  • 31:26 - Steve's advice for aspiring social pros

Resources 

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Navigating Social with Your Friendly Neighborhood Gen-Z08 nov. 202400:33:12

For the past few years, we've seen all kinds of brands scrambling to learn more about their Gen-Z audiences. Cue a wave of brands rushing onto TikTok to learn their secrets…

But what about the Gen-Z marketers on the other side of the content? As social media natives, Gen-Z are a goldmine of social media wisdom and insights that could transform your social strategy. In this episode, we hear from Gen-Z Content Strategist, Mitchell Sauve, on how to connect with Gen-Z audiences and what this generation of marketers can do to get ahead on social.  

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Joining Social Pros this week is Content Strategist Mitchell, a colleague of our host, Hannah! He discusses a little about LT's content team and how it prioritizes the voices of Gen-Z marketers to create fun, engaging, and scroll-stopping content. We also hear why Mitchell believes Gen-Z is the perfect generation for marketing – bringing adaptability, a love of learning, and a willingness to think outside the box.

From leveraging employee-generated content (EGC) to embracing the quirks of social media trends, Mitchell shares insights on how brands can harness the creativity and authenticity of Gen-Z to connect with their audience in meaningful ways. He shares his take on what Gen-Z marketers can do to promote their own skills and grab a seat at the table, plus why handing the reins to your Gen-Z intern could be the smartest move your brand makes!

In This Episode:

  • 2:08 - Mitchell gives us an overview of his job as a content strategist
  • 3:10 - How social pros can approach working with non-sexy brands (and stay motivated)
  • 5:40 - How Mitchell stays motivated when working on all types of content
  • 7:54 - Mitchell's take on how social media platforms and behaviors are changing
  • 10:04 - How to get marketing clients with looking beyond vanity metrics
  • 13:58 - Why employee-generated content is a huge trend today
  • 19:57 - Why a desire to learn and try new things are a Gen-Z marketer's secret weapon
  • 24:05 - Are Gen-Z afraid of LinkedIn?
  • 29:58 - Mitchell's top tip for aspiring social pros 

Resources 

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Social Pros Podcast Live at Content Marketing World01 nov. 202400:27:38

Coming to you live from Content Marketing World in sunny San Diego, Social Pros brings together content experts Robert Rose, Chief Strategy Officer at Content Marketing Institute, and Amber Naslund, LinkedIn's Enterprise Sales Leader. Together with host Zontee Hou, they explore strategies for creating real impact on social platforms, building authentic thought leadership, and finding the sweet spot where creativity meets AI.

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Robert begins by sharing his journey with Content Marketing World, illustrating how a strong content marketing strategy has evolved from routine busywork to bold, game-changing projects. He emphasizes the need for marketers to "swing for the fences" by creating memorable content that brings real value. His concept of zero-click content encourages marketers to think beyond just drawing traffic—instead, he suggests designing content that fully engages audiences right where they are, from meaty LinkedIn posts to scroll-stopping moments across social.

Amber follows with her take on thought leadership and personal branding, drawn from her experience at LinkedIn. She talks about finding the balance between corporate guidelines and the authentic voices of individuals, revealing how brands can empower their people to be credible, relatable representatives. Her approach highlights the value of building genuine connections over polished corporate speak, showing that real credibility often starts with letting employees bring their own voices to the table.

In This Episode:

  • 2:55 - The origin story of Content Marketing Institute and Content Marketing World
  • 5:27 - Why marketing teams are stuck in "busy work" and how to break free
  • 6:00 - The power of "swing-for-the-fences" content projects that move the needle
  • 6:29 - The rise of zero-click content and how it's reshaping social strategy
  • 7:19 - Why AI adoption pressures could lead to missed opportunities
  • 9:05 - "Valuable friction" and why it's key to smarter, more effective teams
  • 11:46 – Robert's book 'Content Marketing Strategy: Harness the Power of Your Brand's Voice'
  • 13:42 - What content marketers and marketers in general should have on their radar for 2025
  • 14:05 - Why brands should rethink "other people's platforms"
  • 15:38 - Robert's advice for Social Pros
  • 17:10 - What living person Robert would have a video chat with
  • 17:56 - Amber's journey from marketer to enterprise sales leader at LinkedIn
  • 19:00 - Why thought leadership is essential in today's digital world
  • 23:06 - Balancing personal brand with corporate storytelling
  • 25:04 - Creating frameworks to shape and strengthen your thought leadership voice
  • 26:51 - Amber's advice for Social Pros
  • 27:21 - What living person Amber would have a video chat with

Resources 

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How a Legacy Brand Ran with Their TikTok Boom25 oct. 202400:39:52

TikTok's the place for dance trends, DIY hacks… and, apparently, for reviving iconic products from the '80s! When Lenox's Spice Village collection started trending on the platform, it sparked a social media success story that no-one saw coming. Caitlin Gillard, Social Media Marketing Manager at Lenox, joins us to share how her small but mighty team turned TikTok virality and real-time feedback into a full-on product relaunch, proving that sometimes, the fans know best.

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Lenox's iconic Spice Village collection may have started its journey back in 1989, but thanks to TikTok, it's making a serious comeback! Who would've thought that decades later, a beloved kitchen staple would find a new generation of fans through social media? Caitlin tells us how the Spice Village collection went from nostalgia to viral sensation, sparking a relaunch.

Though the Lenox social media team may be small, they certainly didn't just sit back and watch the buzz unfold—they dove headfirst into the conversation. By listening to what TikTok fans were saying and engaging directly with their feedback, they brought Spice Village back at the original price from 1989! Caitlin explains how this customer-first approach didn't just revive a beloved product, but also led to new ideas and innovations for the brand's future.

Caitlin also shares how her team manages the balancing act of keeping Lenox active across platforms like Instagram and TikTok. She emphasizes the importance of knowing "who you want to be following you" and how focusing on the right audience helps create genuine, lasting connections. Whether you're trying to boost engagement or revive a legacy product, Caitlin's insights offer valuable lessons for any social pro.

In This Episode:

  • 2:04 - Caitlin's role at Lenox and how her small social media team is making a big impact
  • 5:20 - The story behind the Spice Village revival and the importance of social listening
  • 10:32 - How an unexpected TikTok virality took Lenox by surprise and influenced their strategy for engaging younger generations
  • 12:47 - Caitlin reflects on the internal reactions to the TikTok buzz and the valuable lessons learned along the way
  • 16:35 - The coolest moments of the Spice Village revival and a glimpse into future plans at Lenox
  • 17:26 - The importance of real-time feedback and why comments are driving product innovation at Lenox
  • 22:26 - Social media platforms Lenox uses and the strategies for each
  • 24:38 - Caitlin on the importance of knowing "who do we want to be following us" on TikTok
  • 26:56 - How Lenox uses metrics and feedback to tell the full story of their social efforts
  • 35:55 - Caitlin's top tip for an aspiring social pro

Resources 

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The Sweet Tooth of Social Media18 oct. 202400:35:40

Candy fans unite! This episode is for you. Grab your favorite flavor of Nerds or indulge in some controversial candy corn and tune in to hear Annie Belgrade, Senior Manager of Integrated Content Marketing at Ferrara Candy Company, talk about finding the sweet spot in your social strategy. 

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Annie Belgrade joins us in the run-up to Ferrara Candy Company's busiest time of year aka the "Super Bowl" of candy season, Halloween. With months of advance planning to real-time engagement, she reveals how Ferrara keeps its finger on the pulse of candy conversations across social media.

She talks about the challenges of managing multiple brand personalities under Ferrara Candy Company and how her team assigns unique voices to each depending on the audience that favors each brand. Conversations over social media with each brand are the results of tireless manual work, seeking out trending topics and candy talk on each platform. The result? Authentic and relatable content that feels like you're chatting to a friend with a sweet tooth. 

We hear how Ferrara Candy Company manages both organic and paid social, and why "LoFi" content is their preferred style over presenting a "polished façade." As a bonus, Annie also shares a secret recipe that might just convert the candy corn haters. 

In This Episode:

  • 3:41 - An introduction to Annie's role at Ferrara Candy Company
  • 4:39 - How Annie's team manage content during the busy holiday season through social listening and organic engagement
  • 7:22 - The importance of manual work over automation
  • 10:35 - A candy corn combo that might even convert the haters
  • 11:42 - How Annie's team manages accounts for at least 10 different brands
  • 14:22 - How they determine which brands and platforms get more attention
  • 16:27 - Why paid and organic social should complement each other
  • 18:28 - Why "LoFi" content is gaining popularity
  • 19:22 - What bugs vs. excites Annie about working with social media
  • 21:53 - Annie shares her experience of winning a film fest award on TikTok
  • 25:01 - How Ferrara Candy Company works with influencers and got a surprise endorsement from Kylie Jenner
  • 28:58 - The most important social channels for Annie's team
  • 30:12 - Annie's predictions for the future of content and influencer marketing
  • 32:42 - Annie's top tip for those aiming to become a social pro

Resources 

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Greatest Hits: Unlocking Better Partnerships - A Deep Dive with Lucy Quick11 oct. 202400:36:55

How can brands build stronger partnerships with creators? We revisit this ever-important topic with Lucy Quick who joined us last year to talk about the secrets to successfully collaborating with influencers. This episode is a must-listen if you missed it the first time around and want some solid examples and tips on how to build brilliant partnerships with creators.

Lucy is the Creator Partnerships Manager of Global E-Commerce Operations at TikTok, and she shares her unique perspective on how brands can tap into the goldmine of influencer marketing and build real partnerships with creators. 

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It's one thing collaborating with influencers, but building meaningful, long-term partnerships is no easy feat. So what's the secret to turning simple collaborations into strong partnerships?

Lucy works with both brands and creators at TikTok so we couldn't pass up on the opportunity to pick her brains. She provides insights on the current state of influencer marketing, reveals what questions brands should be asking, and explains why storytelling with data is the best way to prove your ROI.

Plus, Lucy shares why working with macro influencers could be a huge win for your next marketing push and the secrets behind the most successful campaigns she's worked on. 

In This Episode:

  • 1:19 - The current state of influencer marketing  
  • 5:45 - Questions that brands aren't asking enough when working with influencers  
  • 8:47 - The top trends Lucy is seeing in the industry right now 
  • 12:43 - When influencers pivot to becoming competitors with brands  
  • 15:46 - How brands can strike a good balance between micro and macro influencers  
  • 17:36 - How brands should approach influencers in the early days of their career  
  • 19:56 - The best ways to talk about ROI and metrics  
  • 22:24 - How to navigate regulations around influencer marketing  
  • 24:41 - Lucy tells us about a funny campaign experience  
  • 27:05 - The different skill sets required for livestreaming 
  • 34:02 - Lucy's tip for becoming a social pro 

Resources 

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Bridging the Generational Divide on Social04 oct. 202400:39:44

Generational perspectives collide in this episode as three social pros from different age groups share their insights on the evolution of social media. Leanna Pham, CEO of Pham & Fams and a Gen Z digital marketer, joins millennial Hannah Tooker and Gen X Sunny Hunt to explore how each generation has experienced and adapted to the ever-changing world of social.

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From MySpace coding to the rise of social media as a career path, this conversation looks into the transformative journey of social media and its impact on different generations. Leanna, Hannah, and Sunny discuss how each generation has had unique experiences, from the early days of social platforms to their current role as essential marketing tools. 

Leanna shares her insights on how Gen Z has witnessed the transformation of social media from a casual way to connect with friends into a vital career avenue. She also reflects on how earlier generations used social platforms primarily for personal interaction, while her generation has adapted to leverage these tools for professional growth.

One of the main points she raises is the common mistake brands make when trying to connect with Gen Z and why it's so important for generations to learn from each other rather than compete with each other.

In This Episode:

  • 2:01 - Generational perspectives on social media
  • 2:43 - Gen Z's unique social media journey
  • 5:05 - Millennial and Gen X social media evolution
  • 9:20 - Generational misconceptions and stereotypes
  • 17:15 - Tips for collaborating and communicating across generations
  • 24:32 - Work-life balance and burnout in social media
  • 27:35 - How Gen Z struggles to unplug from social media
  • 31:09 - Advice for aspiring social pros of different generations

Resources 

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"Hiding the Veggies" in Higher Ed Social27 sept. 202400:32:37

Curating content for higher ed social channels can be a balancing act. How do you pair fun, engaging, and relatable content with important messages students need to pay attention to? Emily Stulz, the Director of Social Media at the University of Arizona, says it's all about "hiding the veggies" in your content. 

Full Episode Details 

We uncover the secrets behind what makes the University of Arizona's social content so impactful. Emily reveals her approach to assessing content effectiveness and why sometimes you need the courage to walk away when something isn't working. She calls this "Marie Kondo-ing" your social accounts. If your strategy is falling short of "sparking joy," it's time to say goodbye.

Emily's advice for social pros is to be proactive in all things – whether it's keeping yourself up to date on trends, using data to measure success, or deciding how and when to pivot your strategy. 

She offers predictions on the future of social media in higher education, discussing the impact of TikTok and the staying power of Instagram, plus her thoughts on battling against the evolving algorithm and changing audience preferences. 

In This Episode:

  • 1:45 - Emily explains her role and approach to social media 
  • 2:44 - How her team keeps things consistent for flagship accounts 
  • 4:58 - Emily's approach to platform-specific content  
  • 6:18 - How her team "hides the veggies" when covering important topics   
  • 8:49 - The trick to making sure your strategy doesn't get overlooked  
  • 11:15 - How the university keeps up with social media and algorithm changes  
  • 14:46 - Emily's predictions for TikTok and what people use it for  
  • 18:11 - Emily reveals her favorite campaign 
  • 21:35 - How her team encourages faculty and students to get involved with campaigns  
  • 23:51 - Why you need to 'Marie Kondo' your social accounts  
  • 28:11 - Emily's tip for aspiring social pros 

Resources 

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Nailing Down Paid Social for Your Brand20 sept. 202400:35:16

We see paid social ads every day, scrolling through our feeds, watching YouTube videos… And a lot of the time it can leave us frustrated and eager to swipe past. So how can social pros pause that never-ending scroll and get people interested? Sammy Lent, Creative Strategist and Growth & Acquisition Specialist, joins Social Pros to take us through her strategies for winning the battle against low attention spans and ad-resistant consumers.

Full Episode Details 

Sammy Lent has worked with several different brands on paid social strategies that involve creative solutions to grab attention even when many are tired of endless advertising. Her top takeaway from this episode is to lean into empathy. Understanding consumers is step number one in any marketing push, but as social pros, who are no strangers to scrolling through our feeds, we can tap into the minds of consumers because we are them! 

In this episode, Sammy breaks down the top differences between paid and organic social, highlighting that they're two sides of the same coin and can complement each other well. She takes us through some of the creative projects she's worked on and how platform changes have shifted the way paid social works and compete for attention on your feed. We also hear her take on influencer marketing and why more consumers are resonating with smaller content creators and UGC.  

In This Episode:

  • 2:07 - Sammy takes us through her career story as a creative strategist for different brands
  • 5:07 - The top differences between organic and paid social
  • 7:10 - How paid and organic social can complement each other
  • 8:35 - Why marketers need to lean into empathy, especially in paid social
  • 14:52 - How social media platforms have changed and how paid advertisers react 
  • 19:25 - Why TikTok is the platform Sammy would use if she had to start her career from scratch 
  • 22:28 - Predictions for the future of TikTok for advertisers
  • 25:35 - How UGC and influencers fit into paid social today
  • 31:02 - How to connect with Sammy
  • 31:41 - Sammy shares her top tips for aspiring social pros

Resources 

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Building Ideal Customer Profiles for Social Media Success13 sept. 202400:32:45

A marketing strategy can be full of great, inventive ideas but unless it's targeted at the right people, you could be flying blind. But how do you narrow down and identify your target market? Katie Robbert, CEO of Trust Insights, works with clients to identify their Ideal Customer Profiles (ICPs) and refine their marketing messages to speak directly to customers. She joins Social Pros to let us in on her strategy for using data insights, AI and targeting messaging.

Full Episode Details 

The best marketing is targeted and specific. It speaks directly to customers who are likely to buy and find value in the solution you provide. It's marketing that's elevated by a thorough understanding of a customer's pain points, needs, and wants, and offers a much-needed solution. 

But without a clear idea of who those customers are, it's easy for your marketing to become unfocused and less effective as a result. Enter the ICP, a strategy that helps you align all your marketing efforts to target exactly who you want.

Katie Robbert has plenty of experience digging into the details and data of her clients' best customers to help marketers speak directly to them. In this episode, she explains the value of building an ICP and how using AI tools can help you uncover insights into customers more efficiently.

In This Episode:

  • 2:06 - Katie explains her role as CEO and Co-Founder of Trust Insights 
  • 5:19 - How ICPs differ from customer personas or archetypes  
  • 9:17 - The type of data you need on customers to help you create the best content 
  • 10:56 - How the Trust Insights team identifies customer needs 
  • 14:34 - How to define or redefine your ICP
  • 17:14 - How to use your ICP for creating targeted information 
  • 19:21 - Why you need to decide on a measurement method whenever you implement a new strategy
  • 20:53 - Katie explains how specific an ICP can be
  • 23:19 - How AI tools can help with processing data and finding patterns
  • 25:46 - The next steps after you've defined your ICP
  • 28:11 - Where to find more information about Trust Insights 
  • 28:34 - Katie's top tip for aspiring social pros 

Resources 

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Greatest Hits: How Community, Creation, and Culture Fuel Canva's Social06 sept. 202400:32:42

Canva has opened the doors for just about anyone trying their hand at creating visual content, whether you're a pro graphic designer or brand new to it all.

So, it's no surprise that it's an incredibly popular tool for marketers, brands, and social pros alike. We decided to revisit this episode from last year with Jacky Barker, formerly the Social Lead at Canva, to remind ourselves of how Canva's social strategy brings the brand to life.

Full Episode Details 

Canva is a marketer's best friend! The smart visual communications platform helps social pros with marketing, building presentations, graphic design, branding, and has even expanded into video editing and website building. As Jacky likes to say in this episode, it offers "the full shebang"!

But how has their social media strategy contributed to Canva's success? Jacky explains in this episode how community and culture are cornerstones of Canva's ability to stay in the spotlight.  

We hear about the day-to-day responsibilities of a Social Lead, how Canva identifies target audiences, and how its social team leverages creators, UGC, plus Pinterest and TikTok to reach more people.

In This Episode:

  • 1:50 - An introduction to Canva
  • 2:52 - Jacky's day-to-day responsibilities as a Social Lead
  • 5:12 - Where Canva takes its cultural cues
  • 6:44 - How Canva stays on top of trends in the "creator world"
  • 8:04 - How Canva engages with its super fans
  • 10:57 - How Canva determines its target audience
  • 13:13 - How Canva has changed its messaging around features
  • 16:23 - Canva's approach to expanding into a global brand
  • 19:35 - Why Pinterest is a big focus for Canva
  • 24:44 - How Canva determines its next steps for the product
  • 29:11 - Jacky's parting advice for social pros

Resources 

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A Social Pros Special: Looking At Q4 and 202530 août 202400:43:27

What is exciting about social right now, and what are the things that bug you the most? This special episode of Social Pros gathers together Convince & Convert experts to talk about their shared frustrations with social, the future trends they have their eye on, and the potential out there for brands right now...

Full Episode Details 

In this unique, collaborative episode, hosts Daniel Lemin and Hannah Tooker come together with Convince & Convert strategists Sunny Hunt, Jennifer Harmon, and Jason Keath to explore the challenges and opportunities facing social pros today. They talk about their shared belief in the need for platforms to improve moderation systems and the rise of internal creators within brands that are engaging authentically with their audiences. 

They also discuss the question they hear most frequently from social media leaders – 'where should I focus my time, energy and budget?' Plus they share strategies for overcoming analysis paralysis and how to build authenticity and trust in the age of AI. 

In This Episode:

  • 1:21 - This episode's guests introduce themselves
  • 4:53 - The inconsistent enforcement of community guidelines and the spread of misinformation 
  • 8:00 - Jason highlights the lack of trust in social media and the need to prioritize user experience over profit
  • 9:42 - The rise of inadequately disclosed sponsored partnerships
  • 11:04 - The growing trend of brands hiring internal creators
  • 12:36 - Some of the most common questions from social media leaders
  • 14:17 - The challenge of selling the value of social media to leadership
  • 16:13 - The importance of connecting organic and paid social teams to improve quality and performance of content
  • 22:11 - Things happening in social that marketing teams need to be paying attention to
  • 28:19 - Why you need to be participating in short-form video, especially in B2B
  • 35:44 - How to build authenticity in the age of AI 
  • 41:40 - Daniel's pro tip for aspiring social pros

Resources 

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An AI Storytelling Masterclass with Mike Allton23 août 202400:31:57

Can AI help us to become better storytellers? Your immediate thought might be no, of course not! But while an AI tool won't craft a compelling narrative out of nowhere, it can help us to become better at our jobs by saving time and acting as an advisor and assistant. For this episode, Mike Allton, the Chief Storyteller at Agorapulse, drops a masterclass on using AI to craft intriguing stories that all marketers and social pros can learn from.

Full Episode Details 

As Chief Storyteller, Mike has fully embraced the new age of AI and shares his experience of learning how AI tools can play a role in storytelling. He shares examples of how AI can streamline research and content preparation and save time on the nitty-gritty work that bogs down creatives.

For those new to social media with AI worries, Mike shares advice (and reassurance) and explains the common mistakes even seasoned marketers make when using AI. He makes it clear that it is no magic wand, but it's powerful – if you use it right. Mike weighs up AI's strengths and limitations, offering practical advice on when to utilize it in content creation. One example he recommends is using AI to identify gaps in your content strategy, freeing up time for humans while highlighting opportunities for great content in the future. 

In This Episode:

  • 1:45 - What does Mike's role as Chief Storyteller involve? 
  • 2:31 - What makes a good story? 
  • 5:45 - How AI and marketers can work together to tell stories  
  • 8:31 - The top thing marketers get wrong with AI 
  • 10:57 - How AI can help you find gaps in your content   
  • 13:00 - Mike's advice for overcoming AI wariness and using it to improve your work 
  • 19:02 - How humans can differentiate themselves from AI 
  • 22:11 - How Agorapulse is integrating AI into the platform   
  • 27:06 - The best places to connect with Mike, including his website and podcast  
  • 27:32 - Mike's top tip for aspiring social pros 

Resources 

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Greatest Hits: Creating Harmony in Creative Work with Joél Leon from New York Times Advertising16 août 202400:37:51

We take a look back at one of our favorite episodes from last year this week. When Joél Leon, Creative Director, T Brand Studio at New York Times Advertising, joined us in episode 601, he brought plenty of wisdom and some mic drop moments.

Full Episode Details 

If you want your creative team to make magic, then you've got to foster a healthy environment for them to thrive in. As Creative Director, Joél believes there needs to be more "harmony" within the creative process. And part of that is by building the right environment and leadership.

In this episode, we hear Joél's take on what it means to be a great creative director and why it's important to trust your team and give them safe spaces to flourish creatively. Joél takes us through some examples of his favorite campaigns he's worked on and how his team defines success. He explores why it's necessary to practice what you preach, especially when joining conversations about social issues.

In This Episode:

  • 1:39 - Joél explains his role within T Brand Studio
  • 4:54 - How Joél's team works alongside the newsroom and editorial teams
  • 6:35 - Joél shares some details of campaigns his team has worked on
  • 7:51 - How Joél leads his team to deliver the very best content
  • 12:00 - Joél's methods for managing expectations and working with brands
  • 15:07 - How leaders can create a healthy work environment
  • 16:50 - How to protect the interests of your team while keeping clients happy
  • 20:07 - Joél shares some of his favorite campaigns to work on
  • 23:42 - How Joél prefers to think about failure and success
  • 26:45 - Finding a harmony between creativity and social issues
  • 30:50 - Why listening is the most active form of communication
  • 31:20 - Joél announces his publishing deal and book
  • 33:03 - Joél's top tip for those wanting to become a social pro

Resources 

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How Quizlet Turns Fans into Friends on Social09 août 202400:39:26

When people head to social media, usually the last thing on their minds is studying. But Quizlet, the widely popular learning platform, has managed to build an impressive social media presence that engages learners around the world. Tori Mueller, Senior Social Media Manager, joins Social Pros to clue us into their strategies.

Full Episode Details 

Quizlet has perfected the formula for "edutainment" content with its unique blend of educational content, pop culture references, and community building on social. Tori heads up the social media department and joins this episode to take us through Quizlet's strategy for appealing to an audience of learners, particularly Gen Z.

We hear about Quizlet's three-pillar approach to content creation: edutainment, building the brand, and tapping into culture. As serious study content isn't what people usually want to see on their social media feeds, Quizlet combines educational content with cultural commentary on the trends that appeal most to its audience. She explains why this strategy is so successful in keeping the brand top of mind for learners.

Tori also shares a great example of how Quizlet engages in social listening by building a fully-fledged April Fools' campaign, "Rizzlet," based on a real user story on social. Quizlet also partners with influencers, and Tori shares how a partnership with @maxnotbeer led to high community engagement and new Korean language lessons added to the platform.

Authenticity over polished content is a common theme in social at the moment, and Tori agrees that authentic content is performing much better for her team. To tap into that authenticity, she explains how part of their strategy is to show the real people behind the brand.

In This Episode:

  • 2:42 - An introduction to Tori and Quizlet
  • 4:12 - How Quizlet engages an existing user base with its three content pillars 
  • 8:56 - How Tori determines what pieces of culture/trends to capitalize on
  • 11:10 - How Quizlet's April Fools' prank came from UGC 
  • 16:15 - The challenge of getting employees to be on camera 
  • 19:02 - Why Quizlet leads with "dessert-first" content  
  • 20:32 - Tori tells us about an influencer collaboration and Instagram quiz campaigns 
  • 24:43 - Unusual use cases for Quizlet
  • 25:51 - How Quizlet measures success and avoids vanity metrics 
  • 29:13 - Why Tori is most excited about the move toward authentic content 
  • 31:05 - Where Tori goes for inspiration 
  • 32:30 - The platforms Tori would choose to focus on if starting again from scratch
  • 34:27 - Tori's top tip for aspiring social pros 

Resources 

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How Uber Turns Cultural Moments into Social Success02 août 202400:39:47

What does it take to manage social media for a global brand like Uber? We hear the secrets to their social success in this episode with N'Yaisha Aziz, the Global Social Media Lead at Uber, who takes us through Uber's strategy and approach to building winning campaigns that resonate.

Full Episode Details

How can we make our social media content resonate and create a real impact online? N'Yaisha Aziz joins the podcast to share Uber's approach to community, adapting to cultural trends, and creating viral campaigns that people talk about at the dinner table. Heading up both sides of the business, Uber and Uber Eats, N'Yaisha operates across the brand team, product marketing, and social impact to deliver campaigns, initiatives, and messaging through engaging campaigns and organic content. 

We hear some behind-the-scenes stories of Uber's successful campaigns, including a holiday campaign with the "Queen of Christmas," Mariah Carey, and how she got to work on content in real-time for the Super Bowl. N'Yaisha explores the impact of community-driven content, the challenges of balancing campaign work with organic social media, and why Uber prioritizes shareability and comments as key metrics for success.

In This Episode:

  • 2:12 - What N'Yaisha's role involves and a typical day in the life at Uber
  • 4:00 - How N'Yaisha balances the campaign side and the organic side 
  • 6:12 - How Uber makes space for content that works on both a local and global level 
  • 9:15 - How Uber manages its content calendar while keeping the community engaged 
  • 11:17 - Why Uber prioritizes shareability and comments as key metrics
  • 14:02 - N'Yaisha's take on pushing boundaries in social 
  • 16:11 - N'Yaisha takes us through Uber's holiday campaign with Mariah Carey
  • 20:19 - Drafting a creative brief for Mariah Carey 
  • 24:00 - Working on campaigns that tap into sentimental moments 
  • 27:58 - What it was like working on real-time content at the Super Bowl
  • 30:05 - Where N'Yaisha goes for inspiration
  • 35:05 - N'Yaisha's top tips for aspiring social pros 

Resources

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[Bonus] How Marketing Can Lead the Way with Data30 juil. 202400:38:42

Data-Driven Decisions is a new limited-series marketing podcast presented by Convince & Convert and shared with our Social Pros listeners.

What happens when marketing truly takes the driver's seat with data and insights? In this episode, we hear from Jenn Chase, Chief Marketing Officer and Executive Vice President at SAS, a company that operates with a data-first culture.

Translating Data into Meaningful Insights

Jenn explains what insights SAS focuses on from a marketing perspective and how that helps her team and other departments work together to drive results. She talks about the different types of surveys and brand studies that SAS conducts to collect data both internally and externally, plus the impact that has on working toward business goals.

For SAS, it's clear that data is embedded in its culture, but for that data to be useful, it needs context. Jenn's team makes an effort to translate that data into insights that matter for different departments, including sales and finance. 

Jenn also shares some examples of clients SAS works with and how they have transformed how they use data to enhance the customer experience with personalization. In a cookie-less world, brands need to think outside the box when it comes to collecting data, but Jenn shares some top tips for companies to get started.

In This Episode:

  • 1:30 - The vision that Jenn adopted when taking on her role at SAS
  • 2:45 - The insights that SAS's marketing team provides the rest of the company
  • 5:42 - How Jenn encourages her team to drive value of marketing across the organization
  • 7:44 - The art to connecting the dots across the organization on ROI
  • 9:36 - How Jen builds strong relationships with other teams
  • 11:43 - The importance of marketing, sales, and finance learning each other's languages
  • 13:48 - How SAS uses data to help clients better serve customers
  • 16:08 - Jenn shares an example of a beauty retailer who transformed their data strategy
  • 19:05 - Why we'll see the evolution of commercial industries thanks to better data management
  • 19:56 - How SAS is helping sports organizations with data  
  • 21:32 - Helping clients take a customer-driven approach with data
  • 22:48 - How brands can get ahead in a cookie-less future
  • 24:50 - Why brand personas are crucial
  • 28:02 - Advice for organizations who are beginning to use data  
  • 31:19 - Why we need to democratize data
  • 35:45 - How SAS strikes the balance between being data-driven and human-centric decision-making 

 Quotes:

"From a B2B perspective, we understand that we need to meet our buyer, not just as their work persona, but recognize that they live in a broader world, and you can reach them in a more personal way."

"Start with the end in mind. What are the questions that you want to be able to answer about your customers that you can't today? Really paint a vision for what the end state could look like and how it can have business impact."

"It's imperative we know not only the demographics but also the psychographics of those personas so that you understand what's motivating them and then making sure that that information is fed into a creative brief so that all of the content that you create downstream as part of an integrated campaign is based on what that persona wants."

Resources:

Purchase the book at koganpage.com/datadrivenpersonalization (use code CCData20 for 20% off and free shipping in the UK and US) and sign up for more content at convinceandconvert.com.

How to Learn from Trend-Signals & Social-First Content26 juil. 202400:35:47

Leaning into social-first content can help you connect to the trends that your audience is already engaged with. The key to great social-first content? Being a content consumer yourself, says our guest this week, Byron Stewart, Associate Director of Social Media at Team Epiphany.

Full Episode Details 

By tapping into the current online culture and trends, you're in the perfect position to jump onto new opportunities to expand your brand's reach. That's what Bryon found when he worked at Foot Locker. As he was scrolling on Twitter at the gym, he spotted an opportunity to jump on a meme about Machine Gun Kelly being a Foot Locker employee. Not long after he posted, the Tweet went viral. This is a perfect example of how you can build social-first content (sometimes with minimal work) with a consumer mindset – a key theme running through this episode with Byron.

Byron shares his advice for social pros who want to leverage trends the right way, take risks, get leadership buy-in for campaigns, and how to work effectively with creators.

We also hear his thoughts on tackling burnout in the era of being "chronically online" and why his top tip for social pros is to commit to continuous learning. The episode leaves us with Byron's thoughts on the creator economy and his approach to identifying and leveraging emerging trends for different brands.

In This Episode:

  • 2:48 - Byron explains his new role at Team Epiphany
  • 3:38 - How Foot Locker went viral with a Machine Gun Kelly post
  • 8:40 - Advice for social pros to do something similar while protecting their brand
  • 10:36 - How Byron stays informed about current culture with a consumer mindset
  • 12:46 - How Byron identifies important trends, tracks them, and applies them
  • 14:51 - Byron's take on brand relationships with creators
  • 17:35 - The biggest changes in the platforms affecting the creator economy
  • 20:02 - Ways he'd like to see Instagram and TikTok evolve
  • 22:30 - Byron's favorite types of content
  • 23:59 - How to avoid burnout as a social pro
  • 25:45 - How Byron kickstarted the employee advocacy program at Foot Locker
  • 29:45 - Advice on getting buy-in to start making employee-generated content
  • 31:20 - Why Byron loves being a social media advocate
  • 33:00 - Byron's top tip for social pros

Resources 

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[Bonus] How Marketers Can Use Buyer Intent Data23 juil. 202400:44:00

Data-Driven Decisions is a new limited-series marketing podcast presented by Convince & Convert and shared with our Social Pros listeners.

Data is being used more and more to help businesses make the best decisions, in part thanks to the greater selection of tools available to capture it. But what if you struggle to access that first-party data? And what can you do with data once you do have it? 

A Balanced Approach to Data-Driven Decisions

In this episode of Data-Driven Decisions, we sit down with Rand Fishkin, Co-Founder and CEO of SparkToro, an audience research tool that helps organizations understand their audiences better. Rand explains how SparkToro helps businesses learn about and target their audiences, and shares examples of users who have seen success with the platform. 

We hear his thoughts on common mistakes marketing teams make, such as relying too much on Google and Meta ads, and why sometimes more unconventional marketing can achieve better results. Rand also shares his balanced take on the use of data to drive decision-making. While data can be a great guide, there are certain blind spots that the data can't tell you about. Rand recommends a more balanced approach to data usage and supplementing data-driven insights with experimentation, intuition, and direct customer conversations to really get to know your customers. 

In This Episode:

  • 0:27 - How SparkToro works
  • 3:11 - Why marketing is too focused on Google and Meta ads
  • 4:20 - What companies typically underinvest in
  • 6:57 - Examples of how clients use SparkToro
  • 12:49 - The problem with focusing on channels and tactics rather than the audience
  • 14:46 - How uncommon tactics are inexpensive (and sometimes more effective) compared to ads
  • 16:31 - How a brand used Reddit in a unique way
  • 19:15 - Zero click marketing tactics that help customers know, like, and trust you
  • 20:45 - Are pre/post-purchase surveys misleading?
  • 25:54 - Why Rand prefers to look at correlation not causation
  • 27:05 - How Rand's relationship with data evolved from Moz to SparkToro
  • 29:17 - Why it's harder to prove the value of tactics today
  • 31:23 - The problem with attributing value to search engines
  • 34:07 - Advice for organizations embarking on their data-driven journey
  • 35:47 - Rand's take on why data doesn't tell the full story
  • 39:18 - How to recognize what data can and can't solve

 Quotes:

"One of the big frustrations that I have is that marketing has gotten more and more Google and Facebook advertising shaped... SparkToro is trying to show you where your audience actually spends time."

"I think it pays to be responsible in your recognition of what problems data can solve and what it can't solve. It's not always the case, in my opinion, that every culture needs to be more data-driven."

"I'm always shocked at how much I learn when I spend a bunch of time talking to customers or watching interviews."

Resources:

Purchase the book at koganpage.com/datadrivenpersonalization (use code CCData20 for 20% off and free shipping in the UK and US) and sign up for more content at convinceandconvert.com.

How Brands, Creators, and Communities Can Face the New Social Era19 juil. 202400:40:01

It's time to put aside those rigid, long-term social media strategies. Social is changing, and flexibility is the new superpower. In this episode of Social Pros, Jayde Powell, Founder and Head of Creative of Em Dash, shares her tips for brands and creators to achieve success in today's social era.

Full Episode Details 

As a true "creatorpreneur," Jayde isn't just the Founder and Head of Creative at Em Dash, a content and creative development agency. She has a ton of other projects, including hosting the LinkedIn series #CreatorTeaTalk, being the Co-Founder of Weed For Black Women, a media hub and online community, plus managing her own personal brand. She joins this episode to share her strategies for creating brilliant content for brands and collaborating with creators, plus how she developed her own personal brand on LinkedIn, aka "the Briefcase App."

We hear why she favors flexibility and adaptability in social media strategies over rigid, long-term plans that often fall short in the fast-paced social media world. She suggests that brands should focus on developing teams who live and breathe social and can create high-quality content with a more flexible approach.

We also talk about the creator economy, and Jayde shares some invaluable tips for creators on negotiating pay and developing business savviness. She suggests that brands look beyond partnering with creators for one-off campaigns and instead work on more sustained collaborations. The episode also explores Jayde's journey from corporate life to becoming a successful creator on LinkedIn, where she found success by staying true to her authentic voice and personality.

In This Episode:

  • 2:08 - Jayde takes us through all the different projects she manages to balance at once
  • 3:54 - Why Jayde first got into the creator space
  • 5:34 - How Jayde turned away from Twitter/X to find success on LinkedIn
  • 7:55 - Advice on finding your footing on LinkedIn
  • 11:20 - What are brands getting right in the creator economy?
  • 14:47 - Jayde explains some of her brand partnerships
  • 15:53 - Why creators need to be business savvy
  • 17:44 - Negotiating pay as a creator and getting paid what you're worth
  • 19:37 - Jayde explains how the Weed For Black Women community began
  • 23:32 - What she's learned about running a community
  • 25:48 - How Jayde evaluates success
  • 27:10 - Where brands are doing their communities injustice
  • 29:07 - Advice for brands starting from scratch
  • 31:04 - Why planning social media content too far in advance isn't worth it anymore
  • 34:29 - How creators can set boundaries to avoid burnout
  • 38:24 - Jayde's top tips for aspiring social pros 

Resources 

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[Bonus] How Marketers Can Build a Culture of Data and Experimentation16 juil. 202400:36:21

Data-Driven Decisions is a new limited-series marketing podcast presented by Convince & Convert and shared with our Social Pros listeners.

How did this non-marketing but data-driven leader become a Chief Marketing Officer? Shafqat Islam, the CMO of Optimizely, joins this episode of Data-Driven Decisions to share how he's leading Optimizely's marketing team into building a culture of data and experimentation.

Let the Data Do the Talking

In this episode of Data-Driven Decisions, we dive deep into the world of marketing data, measurable targets, personalization and customer-centric marketing.

Shafqat shares invaluable insights on how to approach personalization strategically, emphasizing the value of starting simple and scaling up gradually. He discusses the challenges of content creation for personalized experiences and offers practical advice on leveraging AI to find patterns in customer feedback from support tickets and sales calls.

We also explore the critical role of experimentation and testing when it comes to new marketing ideas, and why Optimizely considers experimentation part of its culture. Shafqat explains why it's so important for marketers to have a rock-solid understanding of the typical customer journey and why this should be documented and measurable. 

In This Episode:

  • 0:37 - How Shafqat ended up in his role
  • 2:36 - Why Shafqat wanted to build a more data-driven culture
  • 4:58 - How this approach affects the marketing team
  • 7:07 - The importance of experimenting with new ideas
  • 8:28 - Optimizely's approach to experimentation
  • 12:33 - Why personalization is still a huge topic for marketers
  • 15:22 - Finding a balanced and realistic idea of personalization
  • 18:20 - How Optimizely helps its clients use their own data to make decisions
  • 20:54 - Why all marketers need to map out the typical customer journey and document it
  • 24:25 - How to ensure customers get the right resources
  • 27:09 - How Shafqat researches and understands his customers
  • 30:14 - The most important marketing metrics
  • 31:56 - How Optimizely uses AI to find patterns in customer interactions 

 Quotes:

"Marketing is as much about the customer as it is about the prospect. In fact, in the business of our scale, it may be more customer than even prospect."

"It's really, really important to document the customer journey and understand all the touchpoints and then come up collectively as a marketing organization, with what we want that ideal journey to be."

"Experimentation is much more than tools. To me, the idea is how do we create a culture of experimentation?"

Resources:

Purchase the book at koganpage.com/datadrivenpersonalization (use code CCData20 for 20% off and free shipping in the UK and US) and sign up for more content at convinceandconvert.com.

Why Micro-Virality Is the New Social12 juil. 202400:36:08

It's inevitable. Social media is changing. And if you're not up to date with the trends, your strategy might be left in the dust. Since Gia Lee, the Chief Strategy Officer at NinetyEight, was last on the show, we wanted to hear about her perspective on the top trends today and how marketers can appeal to Gen Z audiences. 

Full Episode Details 

Gia Lee, the Chief Strategy Officer at NinetyEight, is a breath of fresh air in the social media space. As a Gen Z marketer herself, she's already making waves in the industry with her unique insights into how brands can tap into younger markets (without sounding like that Steve Buscemi meme…)

In this episode, we hear a bit about her career story and what the top trends in social are today. The biggest shift she's seen is a move away from big, mainstream trends that take over social. Now, niche-virality is the way forward. A niche trend might not reach everyone… but does it need to? Gia explains that finding your niche is pivotal to a modern social strategy as well as great community management.

We also hear some great advice for marketers on researching Gen Z audiences and ignoring the media stereotypes that can keep you from truly connecting with your audience. 

In This Episode:

  • 1:22 - Gia gives us a background on her career 
  • 3:11 - Social media trends that have changed since she was last on the show
  • 5:51 - How brands are adapting to the shift toward niche trends
  • 7:30 - Brands that are handling niche-virality well
  • 9:58 - What brands could be doing better 
  • 12:19 - How brands can create room for Gen Z to share their voices 
  • 14:38 - How NinetyEight bridges the gap between brands and Gen Z audiences
  • 16:57 - Has Gen Z broken the marketing funnel?
  • 19:10 - How Gen Z is influencing brand community management 
  • 21:57 - NinetyEight's approach to selling new ideas to brands 
  • 28:15 - Gia explains being a guest editor for Ad Age and Marketer to Watch Under 30
  • 30:46 - Advice for Gen Z in business
  • 32:22 - Where you can follow NinetyEight and Gia
  • 33:21 - Gia's top tip for aspiring social pros

Resources 

Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. 

Greatest Hits: 600th Episode05 juil. 202400:52:09

What do social pros today need to know about the top platforms to get ahead? We look back at one of our favorite discussions from 2023 that marked 600 episodes of Social Pros! We asked none other than former Social Pros hosts, Jay Baer and Adam Brown, plus previous guest Allison Day, Senior Manager of Social Media at Reddit, to share their insights into what's working in social today.

Full Episode Details 

To celebrate the 600th episode milestone, we brought back previous hosts and guests to share their thoughts on social platforms today, the biggest changes, and predictions for the future.

Jay, Adam, and Allison share their 'love it or over it' verdicts on Threads, X, TikTok, and LinkedIn, and what they would do if they had to start over today. Jay, aka Tequila Jay Baer, talks about his strategy for starting his tequila influencer journey recently and why he focused on TikTok content to begin with.

There are some brilliant insights into how social has and is changing all the time in this episode, plus some great advice for upcoming social pros tackling the space in 2024 and beyond.

In This Episode: 

  • 5:56 - Love it or over it? Threads and X/Twitter 
  • 11:10 - LinkedIn's evolution and our guests' thoughts on the platform
  • 15:58 - Thoughts on TikTok and Instagram Reels
  • 24:26 - The biggest changes in social over the past ten years
  • 27:31 - Gaining trust from leaders
  • 32:21 - Why social media was about social, now it's about media
  • 36:07 - What our social pros would do if they were starting out today
  • 38:28 - Why Jay Baer would start making YouTube content
  • 43:15 - Jay, Adam, and Allison answer the final two

Resources 

Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. 

[Bonus] How Marketers Can Use Data to Become More Goal-Oriented02 juil. 202400:38:02

Data-Driven Decisions is a new limited-series marketing podcast presented by Convince & Convert and shared with our Social Pros listeners.

How can data help marketing and sales teams achieve their goals? A common mistake some marketers make is not being clear on those goals in the first place. This can lead to marketers and sales teams trying out lots of different tactics in an effort to drive results. But there is a smarter way – using data to build a goal-oriented mindset from the get-go.

Start with Marketing Goals, Not Tactics

In this episode, Tessa Barron, Senior Vice President of Marketing at ON24, talks about why marketers should shift their focus from traditional marketing tactics to a goal-oriented approach. Tessa explains how marketers often fall into the trap of continuously using new tactics without clear objectives and how harnessing the right data can transform a strategy.

Tessa discusses the importance of identifying key signals that indicate buyer readiness, using webinars and events to gather valuable first-party data and using that to create actionable insights that align marketing with sales. We also hear Tessa explain why marketers should create scorecards, identify the metrics that matter most, and improve conversion rates by leaning on data to drive decision-making.

 In This Episode:

  • 1:54 - A shift to goal-oriented marketing
  • 6:22 - Leveraging webinars and other tactics for collecting customer data
  • 11:11 - The importance of asking customers the right questions and using those answers
  • 14:41 - Aligning marketing and sales to achieve conversion goals
  • 18:58 - Testing, iterating, and improving conversion rates
  • 26:49 - Why pipeline is a "lagging indicator"
  • 31:32 - Why brand awareness is a leading indicator
  • 33:51 - Using metrics that matter

Quotes:

"Starting with the goal first, and then the last step is determining the tactic that can really help marketers make the shift."

"What aspect about a buyer makes them more likely to convert to an opportunity than not? By knowing that, you can start to set traps. You can start to create different interactions that will help uncover that."

"There is no database on the planet, no third-party resource that can give you that kind of qualitative information that really makes a difference when we talk about improving conversion rates to pipeline and ultimately revenue."

Resources:

Purchase the book at koganpage.com/datadrivenpersonalization (use code CCData20 for 20% off and free shipping in the UK and US) and sign up for more content at convinceandconvert.com.

 

How Higher Ed Can Do Better on Social for Their Students28 juin 202400:35:34

What do students want to see when researching potential schools? It's a question that all higher education marketers need to ask, and the answers aren't always obvious. But good news! Our latest research, the 2024 Higher Education Marketing Report, reveals what the data says about student preferences and the strategies of current marketers in the space. We're joined by Strategist at Convince & Convert and Co-Founder of Social Fresh, Jason Keath, who takes us through the top insights in the report.

Full Episode Details 

What marketers plan to do with their content and what students want to see aren't always on the same page. 

In this episode, Jason Keath takes us through some of the top insights that our report covers, including plans of current marketers in the higher ed space and student preferences from marketing content. Jason reveals that some marketers are turning away from email and YouTube, but the data reveals that this could be a mistake and doesn't align with the type of content we know students resonate with. We hear why video and UGC should be a priority for higher marketers and which platforms are most popular for that audience.

This episode is packed with practical advice for higher ed marketers looking to optimize their strategies and allocate resources more effectively. Jason discusses the delicate balance of using AI in content creation, emphasizing the need for a human touch to maintain authenticity and connection with students. Jason also addresses the gaps in content topics that students are eager to see, such as career benefits, financial aid information, and internship opportunities.

In This Episode: 

  • 2:30 - Some background on the report and who was surveyed 
  • 4:35 - The benefits of a 3rd party assessment for higher ed marketers 
  • 6:05 - Major themes revealed by the report and the biggest gaps in higher ed marketing 
  • 7:59 - Why marketers aren't utilizing video content as much as they should 
  • 11:11 - What Gen Z wants to see from content  
  • 13:12 - The surprising potential of traditional marketing  
  • 16:48 - Should higher ed marketers use AI?
  • 19:07 - Why you shouldn't depend on AI for content creation
  • 12:09 - What prospective students want to see 
  • 24:29 - Where students go for information 
  • 26:09 - How higher ed marketers are using students within content
  • 28:33 - How schools can restructure their strategy to cover topics students want to see
  • 31:48 - Where can people find the report 
  • 32:29 - Advice for marketers in higher ed

Resources 

Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. 

[Bonus] How to Drive Impact in Your Organization with Data25 juin 202400:41:34

Data-Driven Decisions is a new limited-series marketing podcast presented by Convince & Convert and shared with our Social Pros listeners.

How can organizations drive real impact with data? Many organizations already have plenty of data at their fingertips these days, but it's not just about the data you collect. It's how you use it. Joining this episode is Anthony Coppedge, the Principal Lead of eCommerce Seller Initiatives at IBM, who takes us through his methodologies for using data to make a difference in an organization.

Organizations Don't Lack Data, They Lack Insights 

Anthony leads business agility aims across sales, marketing, and product at IBM. But how does such a large organization manage and implement data insights to grow effectively? We hear Anthony's insightful approach to capturing and acting on qualitative feedback with the 'Retrospective Radar' approach.

With AI such an important topic for many organizations, Anthony also takes us through how he uses the Watson Natural Language Processing tool to analyze unstructured data to create actionable insights. Anthony explains why having a clear north star in your organization is paramount and how his 'Outcome-Drive Alignment' model helps different teams come together with shared objectives to make smart, data-driven decisions.

In This Episode:

  • 1:51 - How IBM manages to drive impact with data
  • 4:09 - Why data is often underutilized
  • 6:30 - How data can identify challenges and misalignments in a team
  • 14:00 - How the 'Retrospective Radar' works
  • 20:41 - How IBM pulls the right insights from qualitative feedback
  • 28:46 - How businesses can use feedback to empower team members
  • 33:15 - How AI can help you gather insights from unstructured data
  • 39:05 - Changing people's minds with good data

Quotes:

"Everybody knows what it's like to be swimming in data. What you need to be swimming in is insight."

"Qualitative feedback is a type of data. So if you get feedback in a survey or a poll or a thumbs up or a thumbs down or verbatim text, all of that is a type of data. It's unstructured data, but it's data. And what we want to do is parse that data and understand it in a quantitative way."
 
"Feedback is a gift, but aggregated feedback is actionable intelligence."

Resources:

Purchase the book at koganpage.com/datadrivenpersonalization (use code CCData20 for 20% off and free shipping in the UK and US) and sign up for more content at convinceandconvert.com.

Greatest Hits: How Better Half Is Breaking Social Molds21 juin 202400:39:16

How do some of the top brands like Netflix, Nike, and Disney drive audience participation and fandom? We find out in this episode, where we look back at one of our favorite conversations from last year with Alyssa Bonanno, the Chief Creative Officer and Founder of next-gen creative agency Better Half. 

Full Episode Details 

Audience participation and engagement are crucial for the consumer and entertainment brands that Better Half works with. But what's the key to tapping into those fandoms? For Alyssa Bonanno, the trick is being "fandom-led." She joins the show to share how her agency fosters great working relationships with huge brands and their audiences to drive results.

We hear how the small-but-mighty team thrives, the benefits of intentional hiring, and how her agency manages consistently high-quality social output for brands. Alyssa gives us some back story on how she built her team, Better Half's own strategy for success, and why she believes you need to take big swings on social to get noticed. 

In This Episode: 

  • 1:32 - An introduction to Better Half
  • 3:35 - Excelling for big clients in a boutique agency
  • 6:07 - Sustaining community engagement with Netflix
  • 9:46 - Matching Netflix's identity on social
  • 12:15 - Operating in the niche vs mainstream
  • 14:09 - Intentional hiring for difficult roles 
  • 19:47 - Alyssa's team structure decisions
  • 21:45 - How Better Half showcase their culture
  • 25:10 - Better Half approach to social
  • 28:32 - How Better Half uses Substack
  • 30:14 - Where to find Alyssa and Better Half 
  • 33:09 - Alyssa answers the Final Two

Resources 

Visit SocialPros.com for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. 

[Bonus] How Salesforce Builds a Culture of Data-Driven Decision-Making18 juin 202400:40:11

Data-Driven Decisions is a new limited-series marketing podcast presented by Convince & Convert and shared with our Social Pros listeners.

How do you compare with your peers? It's a question that every marketer asks, and data is the trick to removing the guesswork from that answer. But finding the right data to benchmark yourself against your peers can be a challenge. Joining the podcast this week is Rob Garf, the VP and General Manager of Retail at Salesforce. He explores how Salesforce builds insights for retail customers to gain clarity on where they sit in the market. 

Infuse Data into Everything You're Doing

In this episode of Data-Driven Decisions, Rob discusses how retailers use Salesforce's Shopping Index to compare their performance with peers and what types of data are most important to focus on. Our conversation delves into the methods of collecting actionable insights, the importance of understanding customer behavior, and why data-driven personalization is key to building a great customer experience. 

Rob also shares plenty of examples of how retailers have used Salesforce's data to enhance their business operations and offers advice for organizations aiming to build a data-centric culture. We also explore how Salesforce's annual holiday predictions have increased brand recognition and built trust with executives. 

In This Episode:

  • 1:40 - How Salesforce gathers insights that impact customers
  • 3:37 - How Salesforce decides which data is most useful for clients
  • 5:11 - Tying data insights into day-to-day actions
  • 9:26 - Empowering clients and the Salesforce team to build a culture of data
  • 11:59 - Using research as content
  • 16:33 - How data can drive personalization
  • 20:52 - Why customers now expect personalization
  • 23:07 - Salesforce's holiday insights campaign
  • 26:20 - How Salesforce's insights drive brand recognition
  • 31:44 - Rob's advice for organizations that want to lead with data
  • 35:42 - How Salesforce builds a culture of data in a large organization 

Quotes:

"Anytime we're thinking about collecting data or thinking about telling stories with the data, we try to get as many stakeholders involved in it as possible. And so, we're really getting collective wisdom."

"I really encourage the team to think about the headline. It's really the thesis. What are we trying to convey? And then work backward to understand how we get the data to either substantiate that point or counter it."
 
"Brands and retailers are looking for different and creative ways to capture data in exchange for some value rather than asking a consumer to fill out a questionnaire to learn who they are. It's about then using that data, activating that data, and using it to better their shopping experience."

Resources:

Purchase the book at convinceandconvert.com/data-driven (use code CCData20 for 20% off and free shipping in the UK and US) and sign up for more content at convinceandconvert.com.

How Salesforce Breaks B2B Social Stigmas with Influencers14 juin 202400:47:40

The B2B space is not something you usually associate with the world of influencer marketing. And yet, Salesforce is leading the way in B2B influencer collaborations. How? We find out in this episode of Social Pros with Mikaely Quaranta, Senior Manager of Social Media, and Ashlyn Remillard, Director of Global Social, Influencer & Content Strategy.

Full Episode Details

Mikaely Quaranta and Ashlyn Remillard lead the employee advocacy program, global social strategies, influencer marketing, and community management sides of Salesforce's marketing department. With a lot of plates to balance, we hear in this episode how they approach all of these segments and how a B2B brand like Salesforce can win on social media.

Our conversation covers the duo's innovative approaches to social channels, their experience in community management, social listening, analytics, and influencer partnerships. We hear how they measure success and ROI, and their approach to managing different creators and business partners.

Ashlyn and Mikaely also swap stories of their favorite campaigns they've worked on, where they turn for inspiration, and their tips for social media success.

In This Episode:

  • 2:26 - Mikaely and Ashlyn explain their roles at Salesforce
  • 4:35 - Why Salesforce invests in influencer marketing 
  • 7:09 - How Mikaely and Ashlyn manage messaging across different tiers
  • 12:12 - How Salesforce defines micro influencers 
  • 15:06 - How Salesforce measures success both externally and internally
  • 19:45 - Surprising experiences of managing influencer marketing 
  • 23:21 - How Mikaely and Ashlyn give space for new ideas
  • 26:18 - How Mikaely and Ashlyn manage creators and business partners
  • 29:23 - Where they go for inspiration 
  • 33:55 - Mikaely and Ashlyn share their favorite campaigns and social channels
  • 38:44 - The best places to connect with Mikaely and Ashlyn and Salesforce
  • 41:52 - Top tips for aspiring social pros

Resources

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