Explorez tous les épisodes du podcast Smith Says: Purpose Over Popularity
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| A Birth Journey: Birth, Epidurals, Motherhood & Community | Monique Whipple, CDB, CHW | 11 Aug 2026 | 01:13:48 | |
What if we looked at birth as more than a medical event and started talking about it as a sacred journey?In this episode of the Purpose Over Popularity Podcast, I sit down with Monique Whipple, CDB, CHW, also known as The Birth Plug, for a wide ranging conversation about birth, motherhood, family, community, travel, faith, self-love, and finding your purpose.Monique also introduces her book, A Birth Journey: And How We Got Here, and shares what led her to write it after her own experiences with hospital birth, an epidural, and multiple home births.We discuss:• Why Monique describes birth as sacred• Her personal birth experiences and perspective on epidurals and medical interventions• The role of fathers, families, and community during pregnancy and birth• Why she believes “it takes a village” still matters• Columbus, Ohio, youth, technology, and the future of community• Faith, intuition, authenticity, and self-love• What Purpose Over Popularity means to MoniqueMonique closes with a message about treating yourself with the same care, protection, and love you would give your own children.📚 Book: A Birth Journey: And How We Got Here🎙️ Guest: Monique Whipple, CDB, CHW📱 Follow: The Birth Plug / Monique Whipple🎧 Podcast: Purpose Over PopularityNote: This episode presents the guest’s personal experiences, beliefs, and perspectives. Discussion of pregnancy, birth, epidurals, C-sections, medications, and other medical topics should not be taken as individualized medical advice. | |||
| Former Chicago Haitian Radio Host Frantz Remy | 26 Years in Radio, Haiti's History & Chicago Legacy | 07 Aug 2026 | 00:35:26 | |
What was it like to spend 26 years giving a voice to the Haitian community in Chicago? In this special Purpose Over Popularity: Family & Friends Edition, host Smith Francois sits down with his uncle, Frantz Remy, a former Chicago Haitian radio host whose voice informed, connected, and inspired the Haitian community for more than two decades. Originally from Haiti, Frantz shares his journey of immigrating to Chicago, building a career in Haitian community radio, interviewing political leaders, community figures, and musicians, and the heartbreaking family tragedy that led him to step away from broadcasting after 26 years. More than a conversation about radio, this episode explores Haiti's history, the Haitian diaspora, and the importance of preserving stories that are often overlooked. 🇭🇹 Growing up in Haiti This is Frantz Remy's first long-form interview in nearly a decade, making this conversation an opportunity to preserve both family history and the legacy of Haitian media in Chicago. If you believe in documenting untold stories, preserving culture, and having conversations that matter, subscribe and become part of the Smithsonians community. Follow @SmithSays1 on all platforms. 🎙️ Purpose Over Popularity Podcast In this episode, we discuss: | |||
| James A. White Sr. Why Most People Never Act on Their Dreams | 16 Jun 2026 | 01:53:42 | |
What separates dreamers from builders?In this powerful conversation, James A. White Sr. shares lessons from more than 80 years of life, leadership, military service, business ownership, and personal growth.We discuss:• Why some people stay stuck while others move forward• The difference between surviving and healing• How environment shapes identity• The importance of self-awareness and accountability• Why fear stops people from acting on great ideas• AI and the future of learning• The mindset needed to build a meaningful lifeOne of the biggest takeaways: your future is not determined by where you start, but by your willingness to take action.If you've ever struggled with confidence, purpose, identity, or turning your ideas into reality, this conversation is for you.🎙️ Guest: James A. White Sr.🎥 Hosted by Smith FrancoisInterviewer to be named later. 👤 Connect with James A. White Sr.CEO of Performance Consulting Services📧 Email: jWhite2@columbus.rr.com📖 Author of A Better World: A Framework for Diversity, Inclusion, and EngagementSubscribe for more conversations about purpose, leadership, faith, entrepreneurship, and personal growth.🌐 Website: SmithSays.one📧 Contact: info@smithsays.one#PurposeOverPopularity #SmithSays #JamesWhiteSr #Leadership #PersonalDevelopment #SelfAwareness #Accountability #Mindset #Entrepreneurship #AI #Purpose | |||
| From Community Advocate to Healing After Loss: Becca Namaste Powerful Story | 08 Jun 2026 | 00:47:26 | |
What makes Columbus, Ohio unique?In this powerful episode of Purpose Over Popularity, Smith Francois sits down with lifelong Columbus resident, community advocate, and healthcare professional Becca Namaste for an honest conversation about the city's history, growth, diversity, and the importance of community.Becca shares her perspective on:✅ Growing up in Columbus, Ohio✅ How neighborhoods have changed over the years✅ Gentrification and community development✅ Immigration and diversity in Columbus✅ Advocacy and serving others✅ Healing after the tragic loss of her son, Donovan Lewis✅ Mental health, yoga, and personal wellness✅ Hidden gems and opportunities throughout ColumbusThis conversation is bigger than politics. It's about people, purpose, healing, and building stronger communities together.👇 COMMENT BELOW:What is one thing you love about Columbus, Ohio?👍 Like📲 Share🔔 Subscribe to @smithsays1 for more conversations that inspire purpose over popularity.Follow Smith Says International:Instagram: @smithsays1#PurposeOverPopularity #ColumbusOhio #RebeccaDoran #DonovanLewis #CommunityAdvocate #OhioPodcast #SmithSays #ColumbusHistory #CommunityLeadership #MentalHealth #Gentrification #Diversity #Healing #OhioStories | |||
| From Haiti to Ohio: The Rise of a 4 Language International Singer | 08 Jun 2026 | 00:11:34 | |
In this powerful conversation, we sit down with international Haitian artist and vocalist Shega Haiti right here in Columbus, Ohio. 🇭🇹🎤She shares her journey from Haiti to America, singing in FOUR languages, traveling internationally, and using music to connect cultures, inspire kindness, and represent the Haitian community with pride.We talk about:• Haitian culture and unity• Life in Ohio as an immigrant artist• Music, faith, and purpose• Singing in English, French, Spanish & Haitian Creole• The importance of staying connected to your roots• Building an international brand from the MidwestThis is bigger than music this is legacy, culture, and purpose over popularity.👇 COMMENT BELOW:What part of the interview stood out to you the most?👍 Like📲 Share🔔 Subscribe to @smithsays1 for more real conversations and community stories.🎤 BOOK SHEGA HAITI FOR YOUR NEXT EVENT• Weddings & Private Galas• Festivals & Concerts• Corporate Branding Events• Passport Ready Available for Global Travel 🌎📧 Booking Email: shegasheg13@gmail.com📞 Phone: 567-360-1312📲 Instagram: @shegahaitiFollow Shega Haiti:Instagram: @shegahaitiYouTube: Shega Haiti#HaitianArtist #ColumbusOhio #SmithSays #PurposeOverPopularity #HaitianCommunity #Interview #InternationalArtist #OhioCreators #HaitianDiaspora #musicinterview | |||
| Father and Son Conversations That Can Heal a Generation Reclaim Our Children | 08 Jun 2026 | 01:04:54 | |
What happens when fathers and sons finally sit down and tell the truth?In this powerful conversation, and speak openly about fatherhood, forgiveness, abandonment, healing, rebuilding relationships, and the importance of reclaiming our children and families.From handwritten letters between a father and son to difficult conversations about pain, absence, responsibility, and healing this episode goes deeper than surface-level motivation.This is about:Rebuilding family connectionsHealing generational traumaThe importance of fathers being presentAccountability and forgivenessBlack family unity and community healingCreating stronger futures for sons and daughtersOne of the biggest messages from this conversation:“Fathers have to reclaim their children.”If this conversation impacted you, share it with another father, son, mentor, or family member. These are the conversations our communities need more of.🎥 Subscribe for more purpose-driven conversations📍 Columbus, Ohio🔥 Purpose Over Popularity👤 Connect with James A. White Sr.CEO of Performance Consulting Services📧 Email: jWhite2@columbus.rr.com📖 Author of A Better World: A Framework for Diversity, Inclusion, and Engagement#FatherAndSon #BlackFathers #FamilyHealing #PurposeOverPopularity #SmithSays #Community #Fatherhood #Healing #BlackFamilies #Podcast #ColumbusOhio #Leadership #Mentorship #FamilyLegacy | |||
| From East Side Columbus to California Dreams Richard Lundy’s Story of Survival, Fatherhood & Legacy | 08 Jun 2026 | 00:58:17 | |
In this powerful conversation, I sit down with Richard Lundy educator, mentor, author, military veteran, and lifelong advocate for fathers and young men in the Black community.Raised on the east side of Columbus, Ohio, Richard shares stories about growing up during the era when Mount Vernon and Long Street were thriving centers of Black business, culture, and community. From surviving a difficult childhood to serving in the military, working across California, battling discrimination, navigating fatherhood, and mentoring young men for decades this interview is filled with wisdom, pain, history, and purpose.We also dive deep into:• The history of Black Columbus and the “Black Wall Street” of the East Side• Lessons from California and community networking• Fatherhood and reconciliation• Why mentorship matters• The education system and young Black men• Building legacy through purpose and storytellingRichard also discusses his book: Father Son Connection: From Abandonment to Reconciliation and his mission to continue helping fathers and sons reconnect and heal.This is more than an interview.This is a visual resume.This is history.This is purpose over popularity.📍 Columbus, Ohio🎙️ Smith Says International LLC#ColumbusOhio #BlackHistory #Fatherhood #Mentorship #RichardLundy #SmithSays #PurposeOverPopularity #Podcast #BlackCommunity #AfricanAmericanHistory #LongStreet #MountVernon #OhioPodcast #VisualResume #BlackExcellenceSMITH | |||
| Mr. James A. White: The #1 Skill Holding You Back Isn't Talent, It's Self-Awareness | 07 Jun 2026 | 01:20:08 | |
DISCLAIMER: Dr. James White is a performance consultant, trainer, and leadership development professional. He is not presenting medical, psychological, or mental health treatment advice. The views expressed in this conversation are educational and based on personal and professional experience.In this powerful conversation, Mr. James A. White shares lessons on self-awareness, emotional intelligence, personal growth, leadership, colorism, feedback, and overcoming obstacles.Topics discussed include:• Why self-awareness is the foundation of success• The importance of emotional intelligence in leadership• How to seek and use 360-degree feedback• Personal responsibility vs. systemic challenges• Colorism and identity in the Black community• Building confidence and self-management skills• The power of empathy in relationships and business• Why feedback is essential for growth• How successful people continuously improve themselvesWhether you're an entrepreneur, leader, professional, student, or someone working on personal development, this conversation offers practical insights you can apply immediately.Subscribe for more conversations focused on Purpose Over Popularity.🌐 Website: smithsays.one📱 Follow: @smithsays1 👤 Connect with James A. White Sr.CEO of Performance Consulting Services📧 Email: jWhite2@columbus.rr.com📖 Author of A Better World: A Framework for Diversity, Inclusion, and Engagement#EmotionalIntelligence #Leadership #SelfAwareness #PersonalGrowth #PurposeOverPopularity #SmithSays #JamesWhite | |||
| AI, Relationships, Leadership & Resilience | 12 May 2026 | 01:23:18 | |
In this powerful conversation, we dive deep into purpose, leadership, AI, relationships, resilience, economics, and community growth. From celebrating 10K followers organically to discussing the future of work and the importance of self-development, this episode is about building legacy over clout. We discuss: “Every time I hit record, another life evolves.” This is bigger than content. Hosted by Smith Francois of Smith Says International LLC. Follow the movement: | |||
| Building Legacy, Not Likes Deep Talk on Hate, Growth & Power | 05 May 2026 | 02:11:32 | |
In this powerful episode of Purpose Over Popularity, we go deep into real conversations that most people avoid:Why do people hate others they don’t even know?The difference between competition vs. hatredHow society, history, and mindset shape behaviorThe truth about growth, self-awareness, and legacy buildingWhy YOU must focus on becoming your best self in today’s worldThis conversation is more than talk it’s strategy, mindset, and transformation.🎥 Every story has meaning. Every voice has truth.📈 We don’t chase views we build legacy.If this message hit you:👉 Like the video👉 Comment your biggest takeaway👉 Subscribe for more real conversations that elevate your mindset#PurposeOverPopularity #SmithSays #MindsetShift #EntrepreneurMindset #LegacyBuilding #SelfGrowth #PodcastClips #RealTalk #Motivation | |||
| Purpose Over Popularity SF1 (Remastered) | 02 May 2026 | 00:03:03 | |
From Columbus to the world, this is the anthem behind the movement. Built on faith, vision, and storytelling, this record represents the mission of Smith Says International LLC: turning real stories into impact. This isn’t about chasing clout. Through podcasting, media, and community, we’re giving voices a platform and documenting purpose in real time. Every frame, every word, every moment intentional. If you’ve ever felt overlooked, underestimated, or called to something bigger this is for you. 🎙 Hosted by Smith Francois Listen. Share. Be part of the movement. Follow & Watch Full Content:
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| Unashamed & Unstoppable: Breaking Fear, Identity, and Mental Limits | Mr. Cross Interview | 27 Apr 2026 | 01:42:54 | |
In this powerful conversation, we sit down with Mr. Cross a military veteran and former paratrooper to explore what it truly means to live beyond fear. From intense military training to life lessons on identity, faith, and personal growth, this episode challenges the mental limits that hold many people back. We discuss:
This episode is not just about motivation it’s about transformation. If you’ve ever felt stuck, limited, or unsure of your next move… this conversation will push you to think differently. 🎙️ Smith Says: Purpose Over Popularity | |||
| James A. White Sr. on Legacy, Leadership & Choosing Family First | 04 Aug 2026 | 01:35:55 | |
What defines a meaningful life? Is it popularity or purpose? In this episode of the Purpose Over Popularity Podcast, James A. White Sr. shares the life lessons that shaped his journey as an entrepreneur, author, Air Force veteran, and leadership consultant. From walking away from basketball opportunities to provide for his family, to building businesses, overcoming dyslexia, embracing AI, and traveling the world with intention, this conversation is packed with timeless wisdom. In this episode, we discuss:
If you're building a business, pursuing your calling, or looking for practical wisdom to help you grow, this episode is for you. | |||
| Master Yourself First: The Truth About Relationships, Money & Personal Growth | 06 Apr 2026 | 01:05:33 | |
What does it actually take to build a healthy relationship in today’s world? In this deep and unfiltered conversation, we sit down with Mr. White to break down the real foundation of relationships starting with YOU. We go beyond surface level dating advice and dive into:
Mr. White shares powerful insight on controlling your reactions, understanding your triggers, and developing yourself before trying to build with someone else. 💡 If you don’t understand yourself, you can’t build something real with someone else. 📍 Recorded in Columbus, Ohio | |||
| 99% Business, 1% Talent: The Real Game Behind Success | 03 Apr 2026 | 00:48:46 | |
This episode is personal. Back in May 2010, everything changed. That moment sparked a journey that led to everything I’m building today. In this conversation, I sit down with Chicago Zoe someone who played a major role in my story. From putting me on Facebook to showing me how to connect, promote, and move with purpose… this is a full circle moment. We talk about: • How social media opened real opportunities This isn’t just a podcast it’s real life, real lessons, and real growth. Sometimes the people who shape your life the most don’t even realize it at the time. Tap in. Follow the podcast for more conversations like this. #PurposeOverPopularity #SmithSays #Entrepreneurship #Podcast #Motivation | |||
| Cook Up Hair Growth? The Hair Chef Method | 16 Mar 2026 | 00:33:03 | |
Can you really grow your hair using ingredients from your kitchen? In this episode, I sit down with Na’imah Campbell, founder of The Hair Chef, to talk about natural hair care, entrepreneurship, and teaching communities how to care for their hair using everyday ingredients. From starting a business in college to educating youth through hands-on workshops, Na’imah is building something powerful at the intersection of education, empowerment, and natural beauty. 🎧 Watch the full conversation and learn: 📍 Recorded in Columbus, Ohio | |||
| EL-Roi: From Church Piano to Hip-Hop Producer | 10 Mar 2026 | 00:21:58 | |
In this episode of the Smith Says Podcast, Smith Francois sits down with EL-Roi, a Chicago-born artist now based in Ohio. EL-Roi is a producer, rapper, and creative who blends hip hop, jazz influences, and real life experiences into his music. In this conversation, he shares his journey from learning piano at a young age to developing his own sound and releasing new music. We talk about creativity, travel, anime culture, social media, and what it takes to keep pushing forward as an independent artist. EL-Roi also reflects on his project “Stages of Life,” which explores growth, struggle, and overcoming challenges. Key message: Instagram: @ELREELS Smith Says Podcast features conversations with creators, entrepreneurs, and community leaders who are building something meaningful and sharing their stories. Recorded in Columbus, Ohio at She Love International Radio Studio | |||
| Emmett Till, Sharecropping, and the Power of Faith A Living Witness Speaks | 03 Mar 2026 | 01:01:16 | |
In this conversation I sit down with Bob Cross a man whose life spans segregation era Kentucky the US Army life on the road and a powerful faith journey that led him to ministry and family Bob shares what it was like growing up under Jim Crow only miles from Tennessee how the Emmett Till tragedy shaped fear and awareness for Black boys in the South why sharecropping felt like slavery by another name and how community education music and church helped him survive and stay grounded We also talk about what it means to be somebody dismantling harmful ideas we inherit and why you cannot outgrow God only discover how much you need Him Subscribe for more conversations that build purpose over popularity | |||
| Free Speech, Slavery’s Economy & Real Reparations Mr. James A. White Sr. | 24 Feb 2026 | 00:55:46 | |
n this episode of Smith Says: Purpose Over Popularity, Dr. James A. White Sr. joins Smith for a direct, unfiltered conversation no dodging hard questions and no soft answers. Dr. White breaks down why free speech and tough dialogue are essential in a democratic society. Then we go deeper into America’s foundation: settlement, enslavement, labor, wealth, and power. This episode tackles: • Why free speech requires accountability Dr. White closes with a powerful acknowledgment of Black women and the role they have played in carrying communities across generations. This is not a safe conversation. It’s a necessary one. If you’re going to challenge the ideas, bring sources. That’s what this space is for. 👇 What topic should we tackle next? | |||
| BEND the Arc Toward Justice (Mr. White A. White Sr Returns) | 17 Feb 2026 | 00:46:04 | |
In this episode, I’m back with Dr. White (James A. White Sr.) for a real check-in that turns into a powerful conversation about AI, justice, and what it means to participate in change. Dr. White breaks down Dr. King’s idea that the moral arc “bends toward justice” and explains the missing piece: the arc doesn’t bend unless we reach up and pull it. He shares a simple framework to remember it: B.E.N.D. — Belief, Engagement, Navigation, Discipline. We also talk about:
Question for you: What’s one way you’re “bending the arc” this week? | |||
| Faith Over Fear: A Triple Haitian Journey of Identity, Purpose, and Creation | 10 Feb 2026 | 00:16:31 | |
Both my parents were born in Haiti. In this conversation, I share my journey of faith over fear, identity, and purpose—from being the “first” in many spaces to building a life and business rooted in creation, service, and truth. We talk about:
My belief is simple: If you’re an entrepreneur, creator, or someone navigating identity, purpose, and calling—this conversation is for you. 📍 Learn more or connect: SMITHSAYS.ONE 🙏 Special thanks to Mr.008 for the interview and for holding space for a real, faith-centered conversation. Grateful for the connection. | |||
| Let’s Code the Culture: Music, Mental Health & AI w/ Awake18 (Culture x Tech Podcast) | 03 Feb 2026 | 00:18:07 | |
Culture meets AI. Purpose meets technology.In this episode of Smith Says: Purpose Over Popularity, we sit with Larry Chapman, founder of Awake18, to explore the unlikely path from music dreams → fatherhood → finance → mental health → AI apps — and how faith, creativity, and community fuel the next generation of builders.Topics we unpack:Music → Tech career pivotsMental health & therapy for Black menBuilding the MEN-TOOL mental health appCo-parenting app for families & peaceRestaurant profit + tax toolsWhy young creators must learn AI nowCoding culture vs. getting left behindFaith, purpose & entrepreneurshipCommunity + small business + tech“Let’s code the future before the future codes us”Key quotes:“Our culture is already creative — AI just gives us tools.”“Built by us, for us.”“Let’s code the culture.”“All things can be done through faith and work.”Follow & connect:📍 Awake18 — awake18.com📱 IG — @mentool_strongerSMITHHosted by🎙 Smith Says (Purpose Over Popularity)where community, creativity & purpose meet technology.If you rock with culture, innovation, faith, mental health, or AI — this one lands. | |||
| From Russia to Columbus: Reinvention, Media & Healing at 50 | 20 Jan 2026 | 00:15:24 | |
In this episode, we sit down with Irina Perry, a Columbus-based media producer, herbalist, and immigrant entrepreneur whose journey spans continents, careers, and reinvention. Born in St. Petersburg, Russia and arriving in Columbus in 1994, Irina shares her path from working in a donut shop to finance, technology, and eventually media production — all while building a parallel business in herbal and alternative healing. We talk about: This conversation is about identity, growth, and choosing purpose over routine — especially in a fast-changing, tech-driven world. If you’re navigating change, building something new, or questioning your next chapter, this episode will resonate. Herbal & Wellness: perrysherbalskincare.com Smith Says: Purpose Over Popularity 🎙️ CONNECT WITH THE GUEST🎧 ABOUT THE SHOW | |||
| From South Linden to Self-Mastery | Kurtis Foster, Founder of Freqncy 36nyne | 28 Jul 2026 | 00:58:53 | |
What does it take to transform your life from surviving to living with purpose? In this episode of the Smith Says Podcast, Smith Francois sits down with Kurtis Foster, entrepreneur, personal development coach, and founder of Freqncy 36nyne a conscious lifestyle and streetwear brand centered on identity, discipline, and self-awareness. Growing up in South Linden, Columbus, Ohio, Kurtis shares how adversity, fatherhood, community, spirituality, and self-reflection shaped the man he is today. This conversation explores what it means to become your authentic self, develop a purpose driven mindset, and leave a lasting legacy. Whether you're an entrepreneur, creative, community leader, or someone searching for clarity, this episode offers practical wisdom on personal growth, conscious leadership, and building a life of intention.
Kurtis Foster is an entrepreneur, fashion creator, personal development coach, and founder of Freqncy 36nyne. His work combines fashion, coaching, and storytelling to help people reconnect with their identity, cultivate discipline, and live with greater purpose. Through his brand, books, workshops, and coaching, he encourages others to break unhealthy patterns and create lives built on intentionality. 🎙 Host: Smith Francois 🌐 Website: https://smithsays.one In this episode:About Kurtis Foster | |||
| Find Your Mission: Why Purpose Brings Clarity | 13 Jan 2026 | 00:29:39 | |
Smithsonians, welcome back! Today we’re not in the studio — we’re in the doctor’s office getting a wellness check on purpose, mission, identity, and AI. We talk clarity, contribution, and why your visual resume matters for the future of communication and civility.In this conversation with Mr. James A. White Sr, we break down:⭐ Why everyone should have a personal mission & purpose⭐ How clarity shows up once your mission is written⭐ Why AI is just a tool — and why we must contribute to it⭐ How identity + technology shape the future of legacy⭐ The idea of the “Visual Resume” & video avatars⭐ Community, culture, and the value of perspective⭐ Civility as a bridge between worlds⭐ Black, immigrant, and minority perspectives in tech⭐ Generational wisdom & what’s nextThis is part mentorship, part clinic, part strategy session.Not motivational fluff — practical clarity.If you’re building something, leading something, or figuring out what’s next… this one lands.📧 Email: jwhite2@columbus.rr.com(He may not pick up unknown numbers, so email is best.) | |||
| Haiti Is Not a Trend: Culture, History & Representation in Columbus | 06 Jan 2026 | 00:43:32 | |
In this episode, Smith Francois sits down with Nadia Jean Jacque, the first Commissioner for Refugee & Immigration Affairs in Columbus, for a raw and necessary conversation about the Haitian experience. Together, they unpack:
This episode goes beyond politics. It’s about history, dignity, and purpose — and why Haiti’s legacy still shapes freedom across the world today. 🎙️ Smith Says: Purpose Over Popularity | |||
| I Didn’t Take My Health Seriously… Until This Conversation | Dr. Ekele Interview | 30 Dec 2025 | 00:18:00 | |
In this powerful Part 1 conversation, I sit down with Dr. Ekele, a health educator and medical missionary based in Columbus, Ohio, to talk about natural healing, plant-based living, and faith-driven wellness.What started as a simple juice delivery turned into a deep conversation about:Healing the body without dependency on medicationHow food choices affect inflammation, mucus, and gut healthWhy plant-based living changed her life after illnessBiblical foundations for health and stewardship of the bodyPractical first steps you can take today (even if you’re procrastinating like me)Dr. Ekele shares her personal journey—from being a “wounded healer” to walking in wholeness—and explains how simple, natural solutions can help the body heal the way God designed it to.🥤 We also break down a real juice recipe, detox principles, shopping tips, and why you don’t need expensive equipment to start.📘 Want her book?Simple Plant-Based Solutions for Healthier LivingText or WhatsApp: 718-506-8932📍 Columbus, Ohio🎥 Part 1 of a multi-part health & wellness series📩 First local commenter may receive a free copyIf this conversation challenged or inspired you, like, comment, and subscribe.Part 2 drops soon—where we go deeper into movement, sunlight, detoxing, and lifestyle rhythms.#PlantBasedHealing #FaithAndHealth #NaturalHealing #PurposeOverPopularity #SmithSays #HolisticHealth #ColumbusOhio #HealthPodcastSMITHSMITH | |||
| Podcast & Mic Basics Explained by a Touring Sound Engineer | 23 Dec 2025 | 00:27:10 | |
Smithsonians, welcome back 🎙️Smith Francois here, founder of the 4S Program, and today’s episode is special.Before we get technical, we pause to honor Brother Rogers—a mentor, teacher, and sound engineer who shaped how many of us understand audio, professionalism, and purpose. One of his greatest lessons still stands:“Serve the church—but outside the church, charge your proper fee.”In Part 1 of this conversation, I sit down with J-Rick Wise, a seasoned sound engineer with roots in live bands, reggae culture, and decades of real-world experience—from cassette tape splicing to full PA systems and touring nationwide.In this episode, we cover:How J-Rick got started in audio at age 14Learning sound before YouTube, plugins, and DAWsWhy every voice needs EQ (and no mic is “perfect”)The difference between DJs and sound engineersWhat beginners need to understand about microphones & vocalsStories from life on the road with a reggae bandThis episode is Part 1—background, mindset, and foundation.👉 Part 2 goes deeper into equipment, EQ, mixers, and practical setup tips for podcasters, creators, and musicians.📍 Recorded in Columbus, Ohio📞 Book J-Rick Wise for live sound or recording: (614) 625-5073📘 Facebook: Jahric WiseIf you’re building a podcast, hosting live events, or trying to make your sound match your vision—this one’s for you.👍 Like💬 Comment🔔 Subscribe➡️ Stay tuned for Part 2 | |||
| The Visual Resume: Seeing Yourself Clearly | 16 Dec 2025 | 01:25:42 | |
Y’all might be working on vision boards — but in this episode, we do something deeper. This is a live, unscripted conversation about defining purpose, vision, and mission in real time. After years of working behind the camera—capturing other people’s stories—I reached a moment where I had to pause and ask: Joined by Dr. James White, we unpack:
This isn’t a motivational speech. If you’ve ever felt called to more—but struggled to put it into words—this conversation is for you. 🎙 Purpose over popularity. Perspective over performance. | |||
| My Untold Story: Faith, Identity & How God Carried Me This Far | 09 Dec 2025 | 00:13:00 | |
Smithsonians, welcome back. 🙏 Before anything else: In this episode, I finally share who I am, where I come from, and why I do this work.
This podcast is my way of honoring God, honoring my journey, and honoring the people who helped me get here — even the ones who never wanted to be on camera. I’m a man blessed by God, built by family, shaped by service, and guided by purpose. 💬 Comment what part of my story you want me to go deeper on Purpose Over Popularity. Always. What You’ll Hear in Today’s Story:If you really want to know me…Tap in with me: | |||
| Before You Choose Trade or College: Watch This w/ Mr. James A. White Sr | 02 Dec 2025 | 01:12:55 | |
Smithsonians, welcome back! 👋 In this episode, we get real about work, purpose, and the future:
We also talk about Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, dressing for success in a culture that doesn’t always value it, and how to stay true to your authentic self while still leveling up at work and in business. 🎯 This episode is for you if:
📌 Watch till the end for Mr. White’s powerful thoughts on civility, character, and how to show up as your best selfwherever you go. 🔔 Subscribe to Smith Says: Purpose Over Popularity 👤 Connect with Dr. James White 📘 About the Guest:James A. White Sr.CEO, Performance Consulting Services📧 Jwhite2@columbus.rr.com☎️ 614-252-3266 (office)📖 Author of A Better World: A Framework for Diversity, Inclusion, and Engagement 👤 Connect with Smith Says International | |||
| From Refugee to Immigration Attorney: Gatekeepers, Haitians & the Fight for Real Help | 25 Nov 2025 | 00:58:55 | |
Smithsonians, welcome back. In this episode of Smith Says: Purpose Over Popularity, I sit down with immigration attorney Ina Simakovsky for one of the realest conversations I’ve ever had about immigration, community gatekeeping, and what “help” can look like when it actually hurts.Ina came to the U.S. as a religious refugee from Russia in 1976. Today she’s an immigration attorney in Columbus, Ohio, serving communities from Haiti, Somalia, the Congo, Latin America, and beyond. We talk about:Why going to the “guy in the basement” or just a notary can literally destroy your immigration caseHow Haitian and other immigrant communities are being misled by people who only “fill out forms”What asylum, TPS, U visas, and T visas really mean in practiceHow burnout, stress, and even serious illness almost took her out of this workWhy she says we’re now in “protection mode” and why getting a real attorney is more important than everThe dangerous role of gatekeepers who control information, funding, and access to real helpWhat first-generation kids (ages 15–33) can do if they want to help their families and communities the right wayThis episode is especially for:🇭🇹 Haitian families🌍 New Americans & refugees🧑🏾⚖️ Aspiring immigration lawyers🙏🏾 First-gen kids caught between two systems👩⚖️ Connect with Attorney Ina SimakovskyLaw Office of Ina Simakovsky📍 1450 E Main St, Columbus, OH 43205 (corner of Miller & Kelton – watch the one-way!)📞 614-695-4605 – Leave a message; they call back within two business days.🌎 Immigration practice serving clients across the entire U.S.If you don’t have a copy of your immigration file, now is a good time to request it.If you don’t have an immigration attorney, now is a good time to at least consult one.🎙️ Connect with MeHost: Smith Francois – Smith Says International LLC📺 Subscribe for more conversations on faith, identity, immigration, entrepreneurship & community🔔 Turn on notifications so you don’t miss Part 2 of this conversation⚠️ Disclaimer:This conversation is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not legal advice and does not create an attorney–client relationship. For personal legal questions, please contact a licensed immigration attorney.SMITH SAYS INTERNATIONAL LLCsmithsaysinternational@gmail.comhttps://linktr.ee/smithsays1cash.app/$smithsaysllcPaypal: smithsays1Please comment and subscribe for full video.You are the best. Thank you for commenting and subscribing for full video.I help fresh entrepreneurs 4S their service-based business income, using the power of video.4S Program Founder Smith Francois#smithfrancois | |||
| From Ghana to Columbus: Education, Immigration & Building a One-Stop Shop ft. Edward Sumaila | 18 Nov 2025 | 00:41:45 | |
Welcome back, Smithsonians! 🎙️ In this episode of Smith Says: Purpose Over Popularity, host Smith Francois, Founder of the 4S Program, sits down with Edward Sumaila—a Ghanaian-born scholar, entrepreneur, and community advocate who turned a “small beginnings” story into a powerhouse portfolio of degrees and businesses.Edward shares his journey from a village in Ghana with no electricity or running water, to earning multiple master’s degrees and pursuing a PhD in Information Systems Management, to building a one-stop shop of services in Columbus, Ohio—from insurance and logistics to shipping, taxes, and investment projects. He breaks down how immigrants can leverage foreign credentials in the U.S., why education and continuous learning still matter, and how to think bigger than warehouse jobs and survival-mode hustling.We also talk Ghana 🇬🇭—culture, language, the reality behind the “American lottery,” why Ghana is called the gateway to Africa, and how diaspora and allies can invest back home through business, real estate, and partnerships.In this episode, we cover:Edward’s journey from rural Ghana to Columbus, OhioHow the Diversity Visa (“American lottery”) changed his life trajectoryUsing foreign degrees and credentials in the U.S. (and why evaluation matters)Why some highly educated immigrants get “stuck” in low-paying jobs—and how to break outBuilding multiple income streams: insurance, logistics, forwarding, shipping & moreSimple ways to start a side business in the age of AI and automationCulture shock: snow, credit scores, 24/7 hustle culture, and not knowing your neighborsAdvice to immigrants and young adults (15–33) about networking, mentors, and choosing friends wiselyEdward’s core philosophy: “Don’t stop learning—knowledge is power.”If you’re an immigrant, student, or young professional stuck between survival and your true potential, this conversation is for you. 🚀👉 Call to ActionIf this episode encouraged you, share it with a friend who needs a push to dust off their dreams.Subscribe, leave a review, and let us know in the comments: What’s ONE step you’ll take this year toward using your education, skills, or story at a higher level? | |||
| Mr. James A. White Sr (Pt. 2): Own It, Build the Pipeline — “Don’t Expect What You Don’t Inspect” | 04 Nov 2025 | 01:03:04 | |
From Pittsburgh roots to Air Force, college ball, Xerox/DEC, and 33 years as an entrepreneur—Mr. James A. White Sr keeps it real on owning your choices, filling your pipeline, and using AI as a tool, not a crutch. Highlights: For young hustlers (15–33): sharpen skills, pick a lane (trade or college), read daily, and build reps. AI can speed your research, but you still do the work. If this helped, drop your takeaway and a question for Part 3. 📘 About the Guest:James A. White Sr.CEO, Performance Consulting Services📧 Jwhite2@columbus.rr.com☎️ 614-252-3266 (office)📖 Author of A Better World: A Framework for Diversity, Inclusion, and Engagement
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| King Louis: Chicago's Haitian Music Pioneer | From Haiti to Chicago, Radio, DJ Culture & Purpose Over Popularity | 24 Jul 2026 | 00:38:17 | |
What does it take to preserve a culture, build a community, and stay true to your purpose? In this special Purpose Over Popularity: Family & Friends Edition, Smith Francois sits down with his uncle, King Louis (Louis Douyon) a legendary Chicago radio broadcaster, DJ, music curator, and Haitian community leader whose influence helped shape Haitian culture throughout the Midwest. From arriving in Chicago during one of the coldest winters after growing up in Haiti, to becoming one of the most recognizable voices in Haitian radio, King Louis shares the untold stories behind Chicago's Haitian music scene, broadcasting, DJ culture, and community leadership. This conversation is more than music it's a family story, a history lesson, and a blueprint for leading with purpose. • Growing up in Haiti and immigrating to Chicago in 1976 "Stay focused on your purpose. It only takes one day and one opportunity." "Don't settle for average. Go for the top." "Popularity is temporary. Purpose is everything." "At the end of every tunnel, there's always a light." King Louis (Louis Douyon) is a Chicago-based Haitian radio broadcaster, DJ, music curator, and community leader. Through radio, live events, and music promotion, he helped introduce generations of Haitians and Chicagoans to Kompa, Reggae, House music, and Caribbean culture while preserving Haitian heritage for future generations. If you enjoy conversations about leadership, immigration, entrepreneurship, faith, family, Black history, Haitian culture, and purpose-driven living, this episode is for you. 🎙 Hosted by Smith Francois | |||
| Columbus Connects: Inside the 2nd Annual Business Resource Fair | 27 Oct 2025 | 00:17:23 | |
Hey Smithsonians! 👋Smith Francois here — founder of the Forests Program (Start, Shoot, Systemize & Scale). This episode is proudly sponsored by the Greater Linden Business Network (GLBN), right here in Columbus, Ohio 🌆Each month, GLBN hosts workshops and networking events that help entrepreneurs grow, collaborate, and brand together. A small yearly fee connects you to major benefits — from exclusive business resources to the year-end gala. If you live in or around the Linden area, I highly recommend joining. 💼✨Today’s episode captures the Second Annual Business Resource Fair at the Ohio History Center, where community partners came together to empower local business owners with the tools to thrive.We talk certification pathways (MBE/WBE/VBE), microloans and startup capital, insurance bundles that actually protect families, legal help for small businesses and nonprofits, and why “brilliantly boring” banking can be a superpower.If you’re building in Central Ohio (and beyond), this episode is your cheat sheet for next steps and connections that matter.💬 Special thanks to:Adelphi Bank – Branden Thomas & Monique UnderdownPNC Bank – Amanda Montes, Nikki Toney, Trinity Reeves & Kamaron WilsonLegal Aid Society of Southern & Central Ohio – Paul Bryson & Michael EdwardsAflac (Moore Independent Services) – Shawn A. MooreCity of Columbus, Office of Diversity & Inclusion – Dawanna AllenHilton I. Hale & Associates – Hilton Hale (CLU, Financial Services Professional)💡 Find the right network. Build with your community. Invest in yourself.Join the Greater Linden Business Network: glbn.org📍 Ohio History Center, Columbus, OH🎧 Listen & Subscribe: Smith Says Podcast#SmithSaysPodcast #PurposeOverPopularity #GLBN #ColumbusBusiness #Entrepreneurship #Networking #Community #SmallBusiness #FaithInAction #SupportLocal #ColumbusOhio #BusinessResources #MBE #WBE #VBESMITH SAYS INTERNATIONAL LLCsmithsaysinternational@gmail.comhttps://linktr.ee/smithsays1cash.app/$smithsaysllcPaypal: smithsays1Please comment and subscribe for full video.You are the best. Thank you for commenting and subscribing for full video.I help fresh entrepreneurs 4S their service-based business income, using the power of video.4S Program Founder Smith Francois#smithfrancois | |||
| Entrepreneurship Tips: Mr. James A. White Sr on How to Unlock Your Potential | 21 Oct 2025 | 00:33:25 | |
In this powerful conversation, Smith Francois sits down with James A. White Sr to discuss the journey of unlocking your full potential — from mindset and purpose to practical business growth. Discover how to stay focused, overcome setbacks, and use your gifts to impact your community.🌟 Watch till the end for key insights on consistency, faith, and leadership. 📘 About the Guest:James A. White Sr.CEO, Performance Consulting Services📧 Jwhite2@columbus.rr.com☎️ 614-252-3266 (office)📖 Author of A Better World: A Framework for Diversity, Inclusion, and Engagement Need insurance that grows with you? Meet Courtney Reed, your local State Farm Agent in Reynoldsburg, Ohio.She’s helping entrepreneurs, families, and professionals protect what matters most — with personalized plans and real support.📞 Call: 614-866-0441📍 Visit: 2040 Brice Road, Suite 110, Reynoldsburg, OH📧 Email: Courtney@MyAgentCReed.com Courtney Reed, State Farm Agent — coverage with a plan, and a person who knows your name. | |||
| Finance, Leadership & Breaking Records (feat. Dean Smith) | 20 Oct 2025 | 00:32:33 | |
Welcome back, Smithsonians! 👋 It’s been a while, but we’re back with another powerful and purpose-filled conversation. This time, Smith François is joined by another Smith — Dean Smith (no relation 😅). Dean is breaking barriers as the youngest Certified Public Finance Officer in Ohio and currently serves as an Assistant City Auditor for Columbus, helping manage the city’s $5+ billion debt portfolio. At just 28 years old, he’s also a 2024 NALA Cohort graduate, Hilltop Area Commissioner, Treasurer of Hilltop Rise Economic Development, and a Columbus Business First 40 Under 40 honoree. 💡 In this episode, we dive deep into:
This episode makes finance simple, leadership practical, and purpose powerful — helping you understand the systems that shape our communities and how you can lead within them. 👉 Drop your questions in the comments: What do you want to know about accounting, credit, or how city finances work? 🔗 Resource Mentioned: 🎧 Host: Smith François If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more episodes that blend faith, finance, and purpose-driven leadership. | |||
| Are You “Chosen”? Hannah Komedja’s Spiritual Journey Revealed | 20 Oct 2025 | 00:25:53 | |
In this captivating episode of Smith Says: Purpose Over Popularity, host Smith François sits down with Hannah Komedja to explore her remarkable journey of faith, purpose, and divine alignment. Hannah opens up about how the seemingly random events in her life were all part of a greater plan — a divine design that led her to discover what it truly means to be chosen. From her early experiences to her spiritual awakening, every moment reveals the unseen hand of God guiding her steps. ✨ In this episode, you’ll discover:
If you’ve ever questioned your calling or wondered how faith connects to your life’s direction, this conversation will both challenge and uplift you. 🎙️ Host: Smith François 🔔 Subscribe and join the movement — where purpose means more than popularity. | |||
| EXPECTATIONS?! (feat. Mr. Iris) | 20 Oct 2025 | 00:12:29 | |
In this thought-provoking episode of Smith Says: Purpose Over Popularity, host Smith François sits down with Mr. Iristo unpack the weight of expectations — from family, faith, and society — and how they shape who we become. Together, they explore what it means to rise above pressure, redefine success, and pursue purpose even when others expect something different. This real and reflective conversation challenges you to live authentically, lead with faith, and never lose sight of who you are called to be. 🎧 Host: Smith François | |||
| Two Face Mask: Living Authentically in a World of Pretenders (feat. El-ROI) | 20 Oct 2025 | 00:24:20 | |
In this kickoff episode of the Smith Says One Podcast, host Smith François opens up about the journey behind Smith Says International LLC — from humble beginnings in Columbus, Ohio, to building a platform that gives voice to purpose-driven professionals and community leaders. Alongside guest Elroi Wieck, Smith explores the theme of “Two Face Mask” — a deep conversation about identity, authenticity, and faith in a world that pressures us to wear masks. Together, they uncover how purpose and truth can lead to freedom, clarity, and growth. 🎧 Host: Smith François ✨ Topics Covered:
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| Two Face Mask (feat. EL-ROI) | 20 Oct 2025 | 00:01:52 | |
In this kickoff episode, host Smith François shares the story behind Smith Says International LLC — from humble beginnings in Columbus, Ohio, to building a media platform that helps purpose-driven professionals and community leaders share their voice. This conversation dives into the meaning behind “Two Face Mask,” featuring special guest Elroi Wieck, as they explore authenticity, purpose, and the tension between who we are and who the world expects us to be. Learn why purpose matters more than popularity, and how this podcast will inspire you to climb higher, live intentionally, and never settle. 🎧 Host: Smith François | |||
| Haiti's Future: Elections, Security & the Power of the Diaspora | Ft. Sidi Mohamed Diawara | 20 Jul 2026 | 01:04:21 | |
What will it take to restore security, stability, and democratic leadership in Haiti? In this powerful conversation, international electoral and political expert Mr. Sidi Mohamed Diawara shares his experience serving in Haiti as a senior elections adviser connected to the Office of former Prime Minister Garry Conille. Originally from Mali, West Africa, Mr. Diawara brings nearly 30 years of international experience in democracy, governance, elections, and political reform. Throughout his career, he has worked alongside governments, political parties, civil society organizations, and international institutions across Africa and beyond. 🇭🇹 His three missions to Haiti and his work with Haitian leadership 🗳️ Haiti's electoral process and proposed political reforms 🛡️ Why security and stability are essential for Haiti's future 🌍 The impact of the end of USAID-funded democracy programs 🤝 The role of independent political advisers ✊🏿 Lessons Haiti can learn from post-conflict African nations 🌍 Why stronger partnerships between Africa and Haiti matter 💡 The untapped intellectual power of the Haitian diaspora 🕊️ Reconciliation, accountability, and pathways toward lasting peace 📢 Why Haitian organizations and leaders must unite around a common vision Mr. Diawara describes the Haitian diaspora as a gold mine—not simply because of financial contributions, but because of its knowledge, expertise, leadership, and global influence. The central message of this conversation is clear: Haiti's future cannot depend solely on outside governments. Lasting change will require Haitians at home and throughout the diaspora to organize, build trust, hold leadership accountable, and work together toward a shared vision. Haiti has overcome incredible challenges before. Haiti can rise again. 🌐 Website: https://smithsays.one 🔗 All Links: https://linktr.ee/smithsays1 📧 Email: smithsaysinternational@gmail.com 📱 Follow: @smithsays1 on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn, and Spotify. 💵 Support the Mission: Cash App: $smithsaysllc PayPal: smithsays1 I help fresh entrepreneurs 4S their service-based business income using the power of video. 4S Program Founder Smith Francois 👍 If you enjoyed this conversation, please follow the podcast, subscribe, leave a rating, and share this episode with someone who believes in a stronger future for Haiti. Every share helps amplify meaningful conversations. #SmithFrancois #SmithSays #PurposeOverPopularity #Haiti #HaitianDiaspora #HaitiSecurity #HaitiElections #Democracy #Governance #AfricaAndHaiti #Leadership #PoliticalReform #Caribbean #Podcast #HaitiWillRiseAgain #GarryConille #SidiMohamedDiawara #InternationalDevelopment #ElectionExpert In this episode, we discuss:Connect with Smith Says InternationalAbout Smith Says | |||
| The Untold Story of Black Radio, Journalism & Community Leadership | 13 Jul 2026 | 00:47:01 | |
What happened to Black media, and what can today's creators learn from it? In Part 2 of this powerful conversation, Mr. James A. White Sr. and Dr. Kevin Dixon go beyond broadcasting to discuss the legacy of Black journalism, community leadership, mentorship, and preserving history for future generations. From interviewing cultural icons like James Brown to building community programs, mentoring young leaders, and challenging today's culture of individualism, this conversation is filled with timeless wisdom for journalists, podcasters, educators, entrepreneurs, and anyone committed to serving their community. This isn't just a conversation about media it's about responsibility, legacy, and purpose.
"Popularity may get attention, but purpose creates legacy." If this conversation challenged you, share it with someone who cares about journalism, history, and making a lasting impact. 👍 Like • Comment • Subscribe 🔔 Turn on notifications so you never miss an episode. 🌐 Website: SmithSays.one #SmithSays #BlackRadio #Journalism #BlackHistory #Podcast #Leadership #Community #Media #PurposeOverPopularity #Storytelling #Legacy #JamesAWhiteSr #KevinDixon | |||
| From Hawaii to Philadelphia: How Radio Changed His Life | 07 Jul 2026 | 01:39:26 | |
What can decades in radio teach today's content creators? In this episode of the Smith Says Podcast, we sit down with a veteran broadcaster, educator, and community leader whose journey spans Hawaii, Philadelphia, and Columbus, Ohio. From growing up in a military family to working at one of America's most influential Black radio stations, he shares firsthand stories about journalism, civil rights, media ownership, community activism, and why independent voices matter now more than ever. If you're a podcaster, journalist, entrepreneur, or someone who cares about preserving history and telling authentic stories, this conversation is for you. In this episode you'll learn:
🎙 Subscribe for more conversations that inspire purpose over popularity. 🌐 Website: SmithSays.one 👍 Like • Comment • Subscribe #SmithSays #Podcast #Journalism #BlackMedia #Broadcasting #Storytelling #Leadership #PurposeOverPopularity #ContentCreator #Media | |||
| Dr. Tracy Robinson: Why Fathers Must Read to Their Children The Literacy Crisis No One Is Talking About | 29 Jun 2026 | 01:07:56 | |
In this episode of Smith Says, I sit down with Dr. Tracy Robinson, educator, community leader, and literacy advocate, to discuss one of the biggest challenges facing families today: literacy, fatherhood, and leadership. Dr. Robinson recently completed his Ph.D. and shares lessons on sacrifice, faith, perseverance, and why reading with your child for just 20 minutes a day can change the trajectory of their life. In this conversation, we discuss:
Whether you're a parent, educator, mentor, or community leader, this episode will challenge you to think differently about the impact you have on the next generation. 👇 What was your biggest takeaway from this conversation? Leave a comment below. Subscribe for more conversations that help people grow in purpose, leadership, and community. 🌐 Website: https://smithsays.one #SmithSays #DrTracyRobinson #Fatherhood #Literacy #Parenting #Education #Leadership #Reading #ColumbusOhio #PurposeOverPopularity #BlackExcellence #CommunityLeadership | |||
| Mr. Brown's Untold Story of Malcolm X, Cycling, and Community Leadership | 23 Jun 2026 | 01:58:18 | |
What happens when a young boy grows up in Harlem during the Civil Rights era, learns discipline through competitive cycling in Barbados, and later helps shape the future of Bronzeville in Columbus, Ohio?In this powerful conversation, Willis Brown shares stories from his childhood in Harlem, his family's connection to Malcolm X, the lessons he learned from his parents, and how those experiences prepared him for a lifetime of community leadership.Topics include:• Growing up in Harlem during the 1960s and 1970s• Family ties to activism and community service• Personal memories connected to Malcolm X• Moving to Barbados as a child• Becoming a competitive cyclist and learning discipline• Leadership, mentorship, and success• The history and future of Bronzeville ColumbusThis is more than a history lesson. It's a conversation about purpose, identity, resilience, and the responsibility of building stronger communities.Subscribe for more conversations that put Purpose Over Popularity. | |||