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In this first-ever crossover episode with our friends at Ceteris Never Paribus: The History of Economic Thought Podcast, François interviews our producer and former co-host Scott Scheall and CNP host and producer Maria Bach. The discussion offers a behind-the-scenes look at the origins, inspirations, and histories of both shows. The creators discuss their contrasting formats, the academic value of podcasting, and the stories behind the birth of both programs.

Çinla and Jennifer interview Aida Ramos, Professor of Economics at the University of Dallas, about her work on Jonathan Swift's economic thought, Sir James Steuart, Adam Smith, as well as Oikonomos, her new undergraduate journal in the history of economic thought. 

To celebrate our 100th episode, Jennifer, Çınla, and François welcome back former co-hosts Scott Scheall, Gerardo Serra, and Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak to discuss the past, present, and future of Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar: A History of Economics Podcast. 

In this episode, François, Jennifer, and Çınla speak with Benoît Walraevens, Lecturer in Economics at the University of Caen Normandy, about his work on Adam Smith, John Rawls, and Thomas Piketty. 

Çınla, François, and Jennifer interview Paul Dudenhefer, Managing Editor of both Politics & Society, a quarterly journal published by Sage, and History of Political Economy, the leading journal in the history of economic thought. Paul has spent much of his career in or around Duke University's Center for the History of Political Economy, and has been a much-loved member of the history of economics community for over twenty years. Topics include Paul's work as a writer and editor, his experiences in and perspective on the field of history of economics, and especially the academic-writing workshops that he's taught for several years on behalf of the Journal of the History of Economic Thought. 

Jennifer and François Allisson chat with Verena Halsmayer, University Assistant in the Department of History at the University of Vienna. The conversation focuses on Dr. Halsmayer's award-winning book, Managing Growth in Miniature: Solow's Model as an Artifact (Cambridge University Press, 2024), which explores the historical and technical development of Robert Solow's famous economic growth model. Other topics include Halsmayer's work on "Interventionist Social Knowledge" and "alternative economic planning."

Jennifer and François are joined by our first return guest, Catherine Herfeld, Professor of Philosophy and History of Economics at the Institute of Philosophy at Leibniz University Hannover, Germany. Catherine first appeared on the show in Episode 29 in February 2020. Topics discussed in this more recent episode include Catherine's work on the history and philosophy of rational choice theory, her forthcoming book Conversations on Rational Choice, and some of her latest work on the topic of model transfer. 

François, Jennifer, and Çınla discuss a few recent additions to the literature.

If you are interested in reading the papers discussed in this episode, here they are (unfortunately, some may be behind paywalls):

Freedom, State, and Market: The Real Worlds of Economic Planning

Angus Hebenton and Martin O'Neill

To Change or Not to Change. The Evolution of Forecasting Models at the Bank of England

Aurélien Goutsmedt, Francesco Sergi, Béatrice Cherrier, Juan Acosta, Clément Fontan, and François Claveau

Piero Sraffa and Counterfactuals: A View from Sraffa's Unpublished Papers in the Late 1920s

Heinz D. Kurz, Neri Salvadori, and Rodolfo Signorino

The co-hosts are joined by three Junior Fellows at Duke University's Center for the History of Political Economy, Benjamin Brisson, Eva Jacob, and Raphaël Orange-Leroy, to discuss their interests in the history of economic thought, their experiences in graduate school, and their research projects.

The hosts meet with Harro Maas, Professor in the Walras-Pareto Centre for the History of Economic and Political Thought at the University of Lausanne, to discuss several of his contributions to the literature. 

In this month's episode, Jennifer, Çınla, and François interview Giandomenica Becchio, Professor in the Department of Economics, Social Sciences, Mathematics, and Statistics at the University of Torino, about her 2024 book Political Economy and Economics: Gender Equality and Classical Liberalism (Palgrave). 

François, Jenn, and Çınla speak with Jennifer Burns, Associate Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions in the History Department at Stanford University, about her book Milton Friedman: The Last Conservative (2023). 

Çınla, François, and Jennifer are joined by Alexander Linsbichler, Senior Postdoc with the Institute of Philosophy and Scientific Method at Johannes Kepler University in Linz, Austria, and Lecturer of Philosophy and Economics at the University of Vienna, to discuss his work on rational reconstruction as a philosophical method, Austrian Economics, and the Vienna Circle of Logical Positivism. 

Jennifer, Çınla, and François talk with André Lapidus, Professor Emeritus of the History of Economic Thought in the Laboratoire PHARE at University of Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne, regarding his work on David Hume, the history of ideas about usury, and economic historiography. 

The co-hosts are joined by Professor Sandra Peart to discuss her many and varied contributions to the history of economic thought. Professor Peart is Dean and E. Claiborne Robins Distinguished Professor in Leadership Studies and President of the Jepson Scholars Foundation at the University of Richmond. She is also the most recently named Distinguished Fellow of the History of Economics Society, which the Society confers on those who have contributed a lifetime of study to the history of economics. Topics include Adam Smith, John Stuart Mill, James Buchanan, and, of course, her esteemed co-author, David Levy. 

Jennifer, François, and Çınla talk with Professor Kayoko Misaki, Professor of Economics at Shiga University in Hikone, Japan, about her recent book, Léon Walras's Economic Thought: The General Equilibrium Theory in Historical Perspective. 

Çınla, François, and Jennifer discuss a number of recent additions to the literature.

If you are interested in reading the papers discussed in this episode, here they are (unfortunately, some may be behind paywalls):

Today's economics: one, no one and one hundred thousand

Angela Ambrosino, Mario Cedrini & John B. Davis

Neither Populist nor Neoclassical: The Classical Roots of the Competition Principle in American Antitrust Law

Nicola Giocoli

Before NBER: Warren Nutter's Soviet Research at the CIA

Daniel Kuehn

In another of our occasional early-career scholars episodes, Çınla, Jennifer, and François speak with Hannah Glasson and Dominic Walker, both currently fellows at Duke University's Center for the History of Political Economy, about their interests in the history of economic thought, experiences in graduate school, the academic job market, and their various research projects. 

In this month's episode of Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar, François, Çınla, and Jennifer sit down with Marcel Boumans, Past President of the History of Economics Society, and Professor of History of Economics and Head of Section of Applied Economics at Utrecht University School of Economics. Topics include Professor Boumans' work on the historiography of mathematical economics and the meaning of art for the history of economics. 

Jennifer, François, and Çınla are joined by Laetitia Lenel, Professor of Cultural History of the Economic in the Institute of History at the University of Duisburg-Essen, to discuss some of her recent work on the role of narratives in economics.

In this month's episode, Çınla, Jennifer, and François speak with Professor Cheryl Misak, University Professor of Philosophy at the University of Toronto, Fellow of the Canadian Royal Society, and Guggenheim Fellow, about Frank Ramsey: A Sheer Excess of Powers, her highly regarded biography of the influential mathematician, philosopher, and economist. Other topics include Professor Misak's work on Charles Sanders Peirce and the pragmatist tradition at the University of Cambridge. 

François, Çınla, and Jennifer interview Till Düppe, Professor of Economics at Université du Québec à Montréal, about his work on lived epistemology, Gérard Debreu, Sidney Weintraub, and other topics.  

Çınla and Jenn chat with Helen McCabe, Associate Professor in Political Theory at the University of Nottingham, about John Stuart Mill and his attitude(s) toward socialism. Professor McCabe is author of John Stuart Mill, Socialist, published in 2021 by McGill-Queen's University Press. 

Jennifer, Çınla, and François are joined by Spencer Banzhaf, Professor of Economics and Director of the Center for Environmental & Resource Economic Policy at North Carolina State University, to discuss the history of environmental economics and, especially, his new book Pricing the Priceless: A History of Environmental Economics.

Çınla and François are joined by Kseniia Lopukh, Associate Professor of Economics at National Taras Shevchenko University of Kyiv, to discuss her work on the famous Ukrainian economist, Mikhail Tugan-Baranovsky, as well as the economic history of, and history of economic thought in, Ukraine.

Çınla, François, and Jennifer discuss a number of recent additions to the literature.

If you are interested in reading the papers discussed in this episode, here they are (unfortunately, some may be behind paywalls):

Macroeconomics under pressure: the feedback effects of economic expertise by Matthieu Renault

Thorstein Veblen and Socialism by Geoffrey M. Hodgson

Ukrainian Financial Reforms in 1917-1922 by Kseniia Lopukh

François, Jennifer, and Çinla chat with former Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar co-host Scott Scheall about his work on the methodology of the Austrian School of economics and the problem of policymaker ignorance. Scott's new book, Dialogues concerning Natural Politics, is available for free on his Substack page, The Problem of Policymaker Ignorance, where you can also find his new podcast, The Week in Policymaker Ignorance.

Çinla, François, and Jennifer are joined by Glory M. Liu, assistant director for the Center for Economy and Society and assistant research professor at the SNF Agora Institute at Johns Hopkins University, to discuss her new book, Adam Smith's America: How a Scottish Philosopher Became an Icon of American Capitalism. 

Jennifer and François are joined by Julien Gradoz for one of our occasional episodes focused on the work and lives of early-career scholars in the history of economic thought and economic methodology. Julien is a recently minted PhD from the University of Lille. Topics include his experiences in graduate school, writing his dissertation, career prospects in the field, and Julien's research on the economics of product quality. 

Here is a link to some of Julien's recent work (may be paywalled):

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-institutional-economics/article/abs/managing-repugnance-how-corestigma-shapes-firm-behavior/D6DD4071A3C3A4DCCFCD6D239D34324D

Çınla, François, and Jennifer chat with Danielle Guizzo, Associate Professor in Economics Education at the University of Bristol. Topics include Professor Guizzo's work deconstructing economic expertise and her recent papers on the economics of Barbara Wootton, best known as a sociologist and criminologist, and on the relationship between public economics and John Rawls, the famous political philosopher. 

Jennifer, Çınla, and François interview Carl Wennerlind, Professor of History at Barnard College, Columbia University. Topics include Professor Wennerlind's newly-published book, Scarcity: A History from the Origins of Capitalism to the Climate Crisis, co-authored with Fredrik Jonsson, the history of political economy in early modern Sweden, and A Philosopher's Economist: [David] Hume and the Rise of Capitalism, written with Margaret Schabas, and published in 2021. [NOTE: Professor Schabas appeared on the show to discuss the book in May 2022, Episode 56.]

François, Jennifer, and Çınla chat with Roni Hirsch, Assistant Professor in the Department of Government and Political Theory at the University of Haifa, about her research on profit, uncertainty, risk, Frank Knight, John Hicks, and other related subjects. 

Çınla, François, and Jennifer interview Professor Edmund Phelps, Director of the Center on Capitalism and Society at Columbia University and winner of the 2006 Nobel Prize in Economics, about his new memoir, My Journeys in Economic Theory (May 2023, Columbia University Press).

Jennifer, Çınla, and François chat with Alex Thomas, Assistant Professor of Economics at Azim Premji University in Bangalore, Karnataka, India about his research and teaching. 

Çınla, François, and Jennifer discuss a number of recent additions to the literature.

If you are interested in reading the papers discussed in this episode, here they are (unfortunately, some may be behind paywalls):

Hobbes and the political economy of population – Brian Smith

Motivated ignorance, rationality, and democratic politics – Daniel Williams

Beyond the Sonderweg: defining political economy in 19th-century Germany – Luiz Felipe Bruzzi Curi and Ian Coelho de Souza Almeida

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Çınla, François, and Jennifer interview Pedro Garcia Duarte, Senior Research Fellow with the Insper Institute of Education and Research in Sao Paulo, Brazil, and co-editor of Journal of the History of Economic Thought, about his work on the history of macroeconomics. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Our scheduled interview had to be canceled at the last moment, so we took the opportunity to have a short chat with out new co-host, François Allisson, Senior Lecturer at the Walras-Pareto Centre for the History of Economic and Political Thought at the University of Lausanne.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org.

Jennifer, Scott, and Çınla are joined by Bruce Caldwell, Director of the Center for the History of Political Economy and Research Professor of Economics at Duke University, and Hansjörg Klausinger, Associate Professor Emeritus in the Department of Economics at The Vienna University of Economics and Business, to discuss their newly-published biography of F. A. Hayek, titled Hayek: A Life, 1899-1950.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Çınla, Jennifer, and Scott are joined by Ann Mari May, Emeritus Professor of Economics at the University of Nebraska, to discuss her new book, Gender and the Dismal Science: Women in the Early Years of the Economics Profession.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Jennifer, Çınla, and Scott are joined by four early-career scholars to discuss their research projects, experiences in the field, and career ambitions. 

Christina Laskaridis is Lecturer in Economics at the Open University and Fellow at St Edmund Hall University of Oxford.

Ana Paula Londe Silva is a Ph.D. candidate in History of Economics at the Federal University of Minas Gerais.

Max Ehrenfreund is a Ph.D. candidate in History of Science at Harvard University.

Edoardo Peruzzi is a PhD candidate in Economics at the Tuscan Universities (Florence, Pisa and Siena) and Visiting Scholar at Duke University's Center for the History of Political Economy. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Çınla, Jenn, and Scott are joined by Rebeca Gomez Betancourt, Professor of Economics at Université Lumière Lyon 2 and current President of the Latin American Society for the History of Economic Thought (ALAHPE). Discussion topics include the history of feminist economics, the "missionary" work of economist Edwin Walter Kemmerer, and Professor Gomez Betancourt's work with ALAHPE and the History of Economics Diversity Caucus. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

We're taking a break for the month of August to enjoy the remnants of the summer. Talk to you again on September 15th.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

In this episode, Çınla and Jenn interview Altuğ Yalçıntaş, Professor of Institutional Economics at Ankara University. Discussion topics include Professor Yalçıntaş' work on the history of the Coase Theorem, the need for research ethics in economics, and what it's like to do graduate work under the supervision of certain well-known economists. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Çınla, Scott, and Jennifer discuss a number of recent additions to the literature in history of economic thought and methodology.

If you are interested in reading the papers discussed in this episode, here they are (unfortunately, some may be behind paywalls):

Counterfactual Thinking and Attribute Substitution in Economic Behavior

John Davis and Theodore Koutsobinas (2021), Review of Behavioral Economics: Vol. 8, No. 1, pp 1-23

Neoclassical Supply and Demand, Experiments, and the Classical Theory of Price Formation

Sabiou M. Inoua and Vernon L. Smith (2022), History of Political Economy: Vol. 54, No. 1, pp. 37–73

What's (Successful) Extrapolation?

Donal Khosrowi (2022), Journal of Economic Methodology: Vol. 29, No. 2, pp. 140-152

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Scott, Jennifer, and Çınla are joined by Margaret Schabas, Professor of Philosophy at the University of British Columbia, to discuss her work. Professor Schabas is the author of numerous articles and several books, including The Natural Origins of Economics, published in 2005, and A Philosopher's Economist: Hume and the Rise of Capitalism, co-authored with Carl Wennerlind, and published by University of Chicago Press in 2020. These books, especially the latter book on David Hume, constitute the main topics of the discussion.

Çınla, Scott, and Jennifer speak with Annalisa Rosselli, Senior Professor of History of Economic Thought at Tor Vergata University of Rome and Luiss University of Rome. Discussion topics include Professor Rosselli's work on the significance of speculation for the history of economic thought, Piero Sraffa, John Maynard Keynes, and the economic lessons taught by World War II. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Jennifer, Çınla, and Scott discuss some of their own recent research, what it takes to develop a successful research project, and offer some advice to graduate students and early-career scholars in the history of economics.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

In this episode, Çınla and Scott discuss their experiences using podcasts as a teaching tool in the classroom and the value of using episodes of Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar to teach the history of economics. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org