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In this short episode recorded on the 4th Annual International #SiblingsToo Day, Nancy Morris, founder of #SiblingsToo, celebrates the progress and contributions made by numerous people to the #SibingsToo Project over the years. Recognizing the continuous support from a global audience, Nancy sheds light on the journey from the foundation of the project in 2018 to the present day.

The episode dives into the ongoing collaborative efforts, especially highlighting the work with Dr. Sophie King-Hill and Amy Adams from the University of Birmingham. It discusses the extensive collection of narratives from the #SiblingsToo Story Portal and its vital role in shaping research papers that explore sibling sexual behavior and abuse. The episode emphasizes how these narratives, shared by people directly impacted by SSB/A, provide valuable insights into family dynamics, institutional gaps, and societal attitudes towards the topic. With the reopening of the #SiblingsToo Story Portal, Nancy extends an invitation to more individuals to share their story, facilitating more research and understanding.

Use this direct link to open the #SiblingsToo Story Portal

Chapters

0:00 - introduction and appreciation
0:42 - reflections on past #SiblingsToo Days
2:28 - highlighting academic collaborations
3:07 - insights from academic papers
4:01 - significance of lived experience
5:01 - revealing missed signs and context
7:00 - special announcement
8:16 - importance of shared stories from lived experience

Resources - www.siblingstoo.com

In this update episode, Nancy Morris returns to share some of the achievements and ongoing projects "SiblingsToo" is involved in as of October 2025. Having taken some personal time over the summer, Nancy re-engages with her audience to outline upcoming plans and the dynamic work being done both behind the scenes and in the public sphere. The conversation delves into the importance of raising awareness about sibling sexual behavior and abuse (SSBA) and the steps being taken to ensure this significant topic remains in the public eye.

Nancy discusses her recent promotion of SSBA on "An Hour to Give," a local television show in Ottawa, Canada, and elaborates on the powerful results achieved through community support and fundraising. She highlights her strategic use of newly acquired media assets, which will enable the launch of multi-platform content designed to expand SSBA outreach. Additionally, Nancy outlines her involvement with Ottawa Victim Services and Counseling and Family Services Ottawa in organizing a comprehensive webinar series, aimed at providing specialized guidance to professionals and the affected public, reflecting an unwavering commitment to systemic change. In the latter section of this episode, Nancy also updates the audience on a research project in the UK that will be using many of the anonymous stories so many generous podcast listeners have shared via the story portal at [SiblingsToo.com](http://SiblingsToo.com) (currently the portal is closed - may reopen in 2026).

Chapters

0:00 - What's been happening - The "job", TV interview etc
4:32 - Webinars on Sibling Sexual Behavior and Abuse
7:42 - Sibling Sexual Abuse Awareness and Language Evolution
12:20 - Advancing Conversations on Sibling Sexual Abuse and Prevention
20:39 - Ooops, I forgot - Lived Experience Narratives Fuel New UK Research

Key Takeaways:

*   Nancy Morris is dedicated to ensuring that the topic of sibling sexual behavior and abuse (SSBA) remains an integral part of public discourse. Through television interviews, podcasts, research projects, and webinars, she seeks to educate and engage a broad audience.
*   The "SiblingsToo" project will be incorporating video content, increasing accessibility and engagement across platforms like YouTube, in addition to traditional podcast formats.
*   A shift in language to "sibling sexual behavior and abuse" (SSBA) aims to encompass a broader spectrum of behaviors, fostering a more comprehensive understanding and dialogue around the subject.
*   Upcoming podcasts will focus on hopeful discussions for future preventative measures and interventions for SSBA, moving beyond mere awareness to actionable change.
*   Nancy emphasizes the public health approach to SSBA, advocating for nuanced understanding of all involved, including the person who caused harm, to foster healing and policy development.

Notable Quotes:

1.  "One of my goals was to be a part of the drive of awareness that makes the genie so fat she can't get back in the bottle."
2.  "Enough of the awareness. The awareness will come as we start to talk about the solutions."
3.  "In that controversy is the opportunity of growth and understanding."
4.  "It's about hope for the future by understanding all the people who are impacted by sibling sexual behavior and abuse."

Resources:

*   Nancy Morris email contact for feedback: siblingstoomailbox@gmail.com 
*   "An Hour to Give" TV show, hosted by Sam Laprade
*   For more on the webinar series, go to www.SiblingsToo.com 
*   Computer-generated transcript

In this powerful and thought-provoking episode of the #SiblingsToo podcast, Decca Aitkenhead and host Nancy Morris delve into the underreported and deeply complex issue of sibling sexual abuse (SSA). The conversation provides an insightful exploration into Decca's journey to write a major article for The Sunday Times in the UK, addressing a subject that often goes unnoticed by the public and media alike. With a commitment to shedding light on this taboo topic, Decca and Nancy discuss the obstacles and responsibilities that come with bringing such personal, intimate stories to a wider audience.

The episode reveals the troubling silence surrounding SSA in mainstream media and highlights the urgency of informing parents, families and, importantly, society about SSA and how it can impact all of our lives. Decca shares the emotionally charged process of listening to survivors' experiences, the challenges in reporting on a subject with significant legal and social implications, and the overarching goal of sparking a national dialogue that can no longer be ignored. Insightful, raw, and unwaveringly honest, these show notes invite readers to fully grasp the magnitude of the problem and the need for immediate attention and action.

About the Guest:

Decca Aitkenhead is an award-winning journalist known for her role as the chief interviewer of The Sunday Times in the UK. With a career spanning three decades, Aitkenhead has become one of the leading names in journalism, interviewing a diverse range of prominent figures from the fields of politics, sport, culture, media, and the arts. Her expertise and dedication to uncovering compelling human stories have positioned her as a respected voice in the British media landscape.

Key Takeaways:

1. The 'ick factor' and legal complexities contribute to the collective media silence on SSA.
2. Parents and families must be aware of the dynamics within their household to prevent and address abuse.
3. Survivors of SSA carry the emotional burden of their experiences, with disclosure often leading to a tumultuous yet liberating journey.
4. The debate on terminology (perpetrator/victim versus child who harmed/child who was harmed) reflects the struggle to adequately frame and respond to SSA within society.

Notable Quotes from Decca:

1. "Even more crucially, you could argue you want parents of children in their care today to read this article and think, 'Christ, I mean, there's no reason to think that couldn't happen in our family. I should be paying attention'."
2. "It's the absolute ick factor journalists don't want to cover this story. It's kind of grim. People don't want to think about it."
3. "The product of the school of thought, which feels that we must recognize that they were all children, and to some extent, they're all victims, is that they don't want to use the word perpetrator and victim."
4. "If one parent reads this and pays attention and it means that it doesn't happen to their kids, then maybe that really is the ultimate change in this situation."

Resources:

1. The Sunday Times article - www.thetimes.co.uhttps://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/revealed-the-hidden-crime-of-sibling-sexual-abuse-z05cf0l8r
2. More on Decca - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decca_Aitkenhead

Tune in to this significant episode of #SiblingsToo featuring Decca Aitkenhead, for a deep dive into sibling sexual abuse's harsh realities. Do not miss the full discussion for a comprehensive understanding and join us as we continue to bring light to these critical and pressing matters in upcoming content.

Chapters: 

0:01:25

Decca's motivation to write about sibling sexual abuse

0:04:49

Legal implications and challenges of reporting on sibling sexual abuse

0:07:11

The silence surrounding sibling sexual abuse speaks to societal stigma

0:11:11

Challenges faced by victims in telling their stories without a criminal conviction

0:16:27

The awareness and resources on sibling sexual abuse have increased in recent years, indicating a potential tipping point.

0:22:16

The process of researching for the article involved speaking with academics, professionals, and individuals with lived experience.

0:27:43

The privilege and responsibility of telling these stories

0:37:04

Parents need to be aware and talk about sibling sexual abuse.

0:43:25

Sibling sexual abuse should be seen as a public health issue, not just a criminal justice issue.

0:48:48

Simple steps parents can take to protect their children.

0:54:19

The potential impact of the article on survivors and their healing process

In an eye-opening episode of the #SiblingsToo podcast, host Nancy Morris engages in an intense and revealing conversation with two guests: therapist Brad Watts and Adam, someone who has acknowledged causing sexual harm to a sibling. The discussion delves into Adam's personal reflections on his actions, the family dynamics, and the resulting implications within the justice system. The episode presents a juxtaposed narrative of regret and healing, secrecy and disclosure, challenging societal perceptions of sibling sexual abuse.
 
Initially, Adam recounts his childhood experiences, including how early exposure to pornography influenced his behavior. The conversation then progresses into Adam's acknowledgment of the harm caused to his sibling and the subsequent emotional and legal fallout. The episode also highlights the stigma associated with sibling sexual abuse and the varying paths of healing for both the harmed and the one causing harm. Therapist Brad Watts provides a professional lens, contextualizing Adam's experience within broader themes of treatment and recovery from sexual abuse.

About the Guests:
Adam admits to perpetrating sexual harm towards his sister. He is navigating both the therapeutic process and the juvenile justice system in the United States. Although specifics about his history and achievements are not disclosed to protect both his and his siblings' anonymity, Adam's participation in the podcast signifies his intention to contribute to the dialogue around sibling sexual abuse and his personal journey towards understanding and rehabilitation. His voice has also been altered.
 
Brad Watts, a long-standing friend of the #SiblingsToo podcast, is a therapist specializing in sibling sexual abuse. He is an author, having penned the book "Sibling Sexual Abuse: A Guide to Confronting America's Silent Epidemic". He regularly conducts training throughout the United States to educate and inform others on this issue. Brad provides his expertise to the discussion with Adam, offering insights into the therapeutic aspects surrounding such cases.
 
 

Key Takeaways:
•    Adam's early exposure to pornography planted the seeds leading to sibling sexual abuse, a common factor in such cases.
•    Exposure to media portraying the consequences of sexual abuse prompted Adam to cease the abusive behavior and reflect on the gravity of his actions.
•    Adam experienced significant legal repercussions and family upheaval, with a lasting impact on his future opportunities.
•    The podcast emphasizes the complexity of healing for both survivors and perpetrators, as well as the important role of therapy and family support.
•    The episode underscores the importance of open dialogue and the need for society to address sibling sexual abuse with compassion and understanding.
 

Notable Quotes:
•    "This is a secret I was going to keep to my grave, and I feel bad for that. That was really... I can't even describe how I feel about it. Just disgusted." - Adam
•    "And so I think it is important for it to come out so that there can healing begin." - Adam
•    "If you've got this big, huge wound, which is definitely SSA, just putting an ace bandage over it...eventually without disinfecting it... it's not going to be cleaned and healed, it's going to get gangrene, it's going to fester." - Adam
•    "My goal is to live a normal life, buy a house, get married, have some kids." - Adam
•    "Sometimes it's going to hurt a lot before the healing happens." - Adam
 

Resources:
Brad's book – Sibling Sexual Abuse: A Guide to Confronting America's Silent Epidemic" is available online at your favorite retailer.
 

We hope this episode provides you with insights into the rarely spoken-about issue of sibling sexual abuse and the multifaceted effects it has on the involved individuals and their families. Please join us for the full episode to understand the complete narrative and stay tuned for more enlightening content from #SiblingsToo podcast.

Chapters:

04:09
Description of Adam's family life and homeschooling

10:37
Adam's addiction to pornography and constant search for access

15:56
Normal roughhousing turning into manipulation

26:48
Adam's conversation with his father and disclosure to the authorities

36:18
The non-linear process of healing for survivors

42:01
Nancy asks Adam about his response to people who think he should pay the price for his actions

47:27
Brad shares his thoughts on supporting both survivors and those who commit sexual harm

54:16
Adam discusses the importance of sharing his story and letting others know they are not alone

In this remarkable episode, we are joined by the brilliant Teagan McLaren who brings a profound sense of connection through her music. The conversation revolves around the liberation that comes from expressing ourselves and the encouragement Teagan's latest song provides to those who are navigating their own challenging experiences. The exchange highlights the transformative power of sharing our stories and the emotional resonance that music, like Teagan's, can deliver.

From the rich conversations that led to the songwriting process to the meaningful interactions with fans, this episode dives into the making of Teagan's song "Breaking the Silence." Highlighting significant discussions around sibling sexual abuse (SSA) and the universal theme of overcoming trauma, the episode carries an inspiring message of hope and empowerment. Teagan's insights bring depth to the understanding of how music can be both a personal cathartic journey and a catalyst for broader societal awareness, encouraging us to voice our stories to enact change.

Key Takeaways:

- After meeting Teagan McLaren at a networking event in 2019, Nancy commissioned her to craft an uplifting song that would connect with and inspire listeners, especially those affected by sibling sexual abuse and other traumas. From that meeting came "Breaking the Silence" which captures personal narratives and the struggle to overcome silence.

- Despite not having experienced sibling sexual abuse personally, Teagan drew from her own life traumas and empathic understanding to create a song that resonates.

- The song's universal appeal lies in its ability to capture the essence of shared human experiences, encouraging listeners to break their silence and join a collective wave of awareness.

- Teagan hopes the song will empower individuals to speak out, move forward from their past traumas, and realize that they are not alone in their experiences.

In this episode:

0:00:00 Teagan wants people to feel connected and empowered by her song.

0:01:12 Nancy shares her first impression of Teagan's music and their initial meeting.

0:03:02 Nancy commissions Teagan to write a song for the #SiblingsToo podcast.

0:04:24 Teagan starts writing the song, focusing on the theme of breaking the silence.

0:09:33 The stop-start process of completing the song was beneficial for Teagan's songwriting.

0:11:47 Teagan's empathetic nature allows her to connect with the emotions of others' stories.

0:13:21 Teagan connects her personal experiences with trauma to Nancy's story

0:14:11 Nancy discusses the importance of breaking the silence and how it can help others

0:16:50 Teagan shares a story of a friend who opened up about their trauma after hearing the song

0:18:11 Nancy talks about the impact of the song and how it resonates with survivors of different traumas

0:20:06 Teagan expresses her struggle with performing the song live and finding the right delivery

0:23:32 Nancy praises the lyrics of the song, particularly verse three, and its message of letting go of self-blame

0:25:26 Teagan discusses the creative choices she made in the song to emphasize certain lyrics

0:26:04 Nancy discusses the commonality of trauma and the impact it has on individuals.

0:28:10 Nancy asks Teagan what she would like to see the song achieve.

0:29:07 Teagan hopes the song will encourage people to speak up about their experiences and seek support.

0:29:59 Nancy and Teagan discuss the importance of connecting with others through music and how it can help people feel less alone.

0:30:58 Teagan explains her approach to songwriting and how she aims to create songs that resonate with a wide audience.

0:32:33 Teagan shares a personal story about a song she wrote that had a different meaning for someone else, highlighting the power of interpretation.

0:35:10 Nancy expresses her appreciation for the song and how it helps her communicate her experiences to others, including her husband.

0:36:32 Teagan shares her hope that the song will resonate with and help others who have experienced trauma.

0:37:27 Nancy thanks Teagan for her work on the song and believes it will be well-received by her audience.

0:39:53 Breaking The Silence – full version

Notable Quotes:

- "It's so liberating to feel like you're not alone, to know that you're not alone." - Teagan McLaren

- "It's all about breaking the silence about sibling sexual abuse." - Teagan reflecting the podcast host's mission

- "I barely remember before the walls were built." - A key lyric capturing the impact of traumatic experiences

- "I'm breaking the silence coming off of my island and joining in the rising tide." - Lyrics symbolizing the act of reaching out and healing

- "Too long I blamed myself... nothing I could have done would have changed a thing." - Expressing a turning point of self-forgiveness in overcoming trauma

Resources:

- Teagan McLaren's website: [www.teaganmclaren.com](http://www.teaganmclaren.com)

- Lyric video of Breaking the Silence on YouTube - https://youtu.be/ZA90ZNSpSwI?si=fOqmPhDXqglnSiiX

About Teagan:

Teagan McLaren is a talented singer-songwriter known for her heartfelt music and captivating melodies. With a knack for crafting songs that resonate with listeners' emotions, Teagan's original music often reflects the lived experiences of herself and those within her circle, including friends and family. She has a history of engaging audiences with not only her music but also the stories behind her compositions. Teagan's approach to songwriting demonstrates a deep level of empathy and understanding of various life experiences, giving her the ability to connect with her audience on a personal level. As an advocate for speaking up and addressing personal and societal issues through her art, Tegan's music embodies the powerful act of breaking the silence on difficult subjects.

We encourage everyone to listen to the full episode to experience the full depth and impact of the conversation with Teagan McLaren. Stay tuned for more powerful and enlightening content from this series that sheds light on important issues and the healing power of sharing our stories.

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Nancy Morris is the host and driving force behind the #SiblingsToo podcast and research project. With a dedicated focus on raising awareness about sibling sexual abuse (SSA), Nancy is not only a survivor but also an advocate and activist in this niche domain. Her work involves engaging with professionals, academics, and the society at large to advocate for factual discussions around SSA, aiming to dispel myths and bring about change in narratives concerning this sensitive topic.

Episode Summary:

In this compelling episode, Nancy doesn't hold back on what needs to happen next in the trajectory of sibling sexual abuse awareness and the practical steps forward in prevention efforts. She highlights the importance of societal discourse as a catalyst for change, much like the conversations which shaped public understanding of sexual abuse in other community segments like as the church and sports teams.

Nancy discusses the pitfalls of misinformation and dramatization in media while championing a shift towards more responsible journalism regarding SSA. The episode underlines the vital role of advocacy in maintaining momentum in the conversation around sibling sexual abuse and educates on the important differences between SSA and other forms of sexual abuse, insisting that understanding these can aid in prevention.

Key Takeaways:

• Sibling relationship significance - The crucial role of fostering healthy, lifelong sibling relationships from an early age as a potential preventative measure against SSA.

• Reducing recidivism misconceptions - Understanding that sibling perpetrators often do not repeat behavior outside the home or later in life can help tailor prevention and intervention strategies.

• Stigma and reporting - Minimizing societal stigma is key to encouraging open discussions and effective reporting of SSA instances.

• Parental influence and strategies - Parents must be equipped with strategies and resources to create safe spaces for difficult conversations and minimize potentially harmful behaviors long before they happen.

• Society and policy influence - Among other things, changing society's perception from a criminal to a health-centric view of SSA can influence political will and lead to more supportive policies.

Notable Quotes:

• "We need the same attention on sibling sexual abuse, and I think we're right there right now."
• "The sibling relationship is the longest lasting relationship in our life."
• "The differences between sibling sexual abuse and other forms of child sexual abuse make sibling sexual abuse much more preventable."
• "Every day that we're not moving this conversation along is another day where children are impacted by SSA."

Resources:
www.SiblingsToo.com

Join Nancy Morris as she eloquently unfolds the complexities and the urgently needed dialogues on the prevention of sibling sexual abuse in the latest SiblingsToo episode. Stay tuned for more episodes that promise to be just as enlightening, with discussions designed to foster a deeper understanding and provoke actionable change within families and the wider community.

TIMESTAMPS

0:00:00 - Introduction to the SiblingsToo podcast and research project

0:01:11 - Need for society to have conversations about sibling sexual abuse

0:02:53 - Raising awareness and dispelling myths about SSA

0:04:38 - Importance of preventing SSA and supporting survivors

0:09:23 - Key factors in SSA that make it preventable

0:14:09 - Perpetrators are less likely to repeat the behavior

0:15:11 - Example of a lack of coping strategies

0:15:50 - The impact of SSSA on perpetrators

0:16:44 - Stigmatization of survivors and the need for understanding

0:17:56 - Breaking down barriers to reporting and understanding the perpetrators

0:19:17 - The dual role of parents and the importance of open communication

0:20:29 - Creating a safe space for children to discuss difficult topics

0:21:31 - Prevention through educating parents and adults

0:22:21 - The goal of promoting open conversations and seeking help

0:23:56 - Defining the gray area and understanding acceptable behavior

0:26:16 - The role of society in addressing SSA head on

0:29:44 - Considering SSA as a health issue

0:30:53 - Lack of health-centric approach to adult to child abuse

0:31:25 - Importance of political will to drive change

0:31:54 - Opportunities for proactive prevention through education and support

0:32:59 - Creating a positive environment for children

0:33:39 - Urgency to move the conversation along for prevention

0:34:25 - Continuing the conversation on interventions and adult survivors

In this revealing episode of SiblingsToo, Nancy Morris shines a light on the impacts of sibling sexual abuse on others in the family. Joined by Anais Van Vliet, a driven PhD candidate, they dissect the complexities surrounding non-abused, non-abuser siblings in environments marred by such trauma. Anais, blending her personal history and academic prowess, explores how these siblings navigate the tumultuous aftermath of abuse.

Anais reveals that siblings, while not direct victims or perpetrators, also endure profound psychological impacts from the abuse occurring within their family unit. With meticulous research on behalf of these often silent witnesses, Anais strives to advocate for more inclusive services that address their unique healing journeys. Their work emphasizes the critical nature of the sibling bond throughout life and its potential role in fostering early disclosure, supporting survivors, and facilitating healing.

Join us for the entirety of this powerful episode to uncover more about the unseen struggles and necessities of non-abused, non-abuser siblings in the wake of sexual abuse within families. Stay tuned to #SiblingsToo for more compelling discussions that bring to light crucial aspects of sibling sexual abuse and its impact on family dynamics.

Key Takeaways:

• Sibling sexual abuse has far-reaching impacts, not only on the direct victims and perpetrators but also on other siblings within the family unit.
• Non-abused, non-abuser siblings may experience similar psychological outcomes to direct survivors, including guilt, shame, and trauma responses.
• These siblings exhibit unique support needs that are currently underserved by existing family-focused interventions in the wake of sexual abuse.
• The sibling relationship can play a protective role in the context of abuse, as siblings may contribute to early disclosure, interruption of abuse, or ongoing emotional support.
• There is a pressing need for research and advocacy to address the gaps in services for non-abused, non-abuser siblings and to ensure they are seen and heard within therapeutic environments.

About Anais:

Anais Van Vliet is a dedicated PhD candidate at McGill University with a focus on social work. They have a substantial background in clinical support, providing assistance for various life challenges. Anais underscores their professional expertise with personal motivation, being a sibling of intrafamilial child sexual abuse survivors. Their research delves into the experiences of non-abused, non-abuser siblings within these households. Complementing their personal insight, Anais' professional journey includes advocacy for often overlooked communities impacted by sexual violence, policy-oriented research, and the provision of clinical support and services.

Professional bio and contact info

Anaïs Van Vliet is a PhD candidate in Social Work at McGill university. Their doctoral research focuses on siblings of child sexual abuse survivors; their experiences and support needs surrounding sexual abuse in their family. This research is funded by the SSHRC Doctoral scholarship. More broadly, Van Vliet's academic research and social work practice centers on the voices of often forgotten victims of sexual and gender-based violence.  They are currently looking for research and advocacy collaborations and can be reached at anais.cadieuxvanvliet@mcgill.ca.

References:

Link to Carmit Katz's bio

Prof. Carmit Katz | The Bob Shapell School of Social Work (tau.ac.il)  (https://en-socialwork.tau.ac.il/profile/carmitkatz)

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In this episode, Nancy Morris expresses her gratitude to the individuals who have contributed their stories to the #SiblingsToo story database. She emphasizes the importance of these stories in conducting research, informing policymakers, and reducing the stigma surrounding sibling sexual abuse.

Nancy explains the process of compiling and analyzing the stories, highlighting the themes that emerge and the impact they have on professionals and society as a whole. She also discusses her ongoing collaborations and the upcoming book she is working on to share the realities of sibling sexual abuse with society.

• The #SiblingsToo Project collects anonymous stories from survivors, perpetrators, and other family members affected by sibling sexual abuse.
• The stories are used for research, informing policymakers, and reducing the stigma surrounding sibling sexual abuse.
• Narrative analysis is conducted to identify themes and provide a deeper understanding of the experiences of those affected by sibling sexual abuse.
• Sharing stories can be a healing process for individuals and contributes to the broader conversation about sibling sexual abuse.
• The #SiblingsToo Project aims to ensure that the topic of sibling sexual abuse remains in the public consciousness and leads to meaningful changes in policies and societal attitudes.

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In this episode Nancy is joined by Dr. Sophie King-Hill to discuss her creation of a mapping tool that is used to aid thinking for professionals while they plan for what interventions will be necessary for the families they are working with.

Dr. Sophie King-Hill is an academic in the Health Services Management Centre at the University of Birmingham in the UK. Her research specialism encompasses sibling sexual abuse as well as sexual behaviours and first point assessment in children and young people. Sophie also has an interest in policy implementation, transfer and success frameworks and evaluation strategies.

In this episode:

• The voice that is missing from the SSA conversation
• A mapping tool for Practitioners that need support
• Getting a deeper look at many levels
• Future goals for the mapping tool
• Upcoming research
• A shift is coming

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So, what's been happening since the last episode?

And what's coming in the new season of the #SiblingsToo podcast.

In this episode, Nancy reflects on the progress made since the #SiblingsToo International Awareness Day and discusses the increasing conversation and energy getting the word out about sibling sexual abuse. She emphasize the importance of driving awareness and educating parents, family members, and those who have caused harm. Nancy also mentions upcoming changes to the podcast, including new guests such as various academics, professionals and survivors of sibling sexual abuse. She plans to explore solutions and interventions for families enduring SSA and address the language issue that seems to be difficult for everyone to get comfortable with. The new season of the #SiblingsToo Podcast will be released in late October.

Quotes:

• "The awareness day added energy into the conversation on an international basis."
• "Sibling sexual abuse is very different from other types of child sexual abuse...one of the key differences is the impact it has on the whole family."
• "The new season of The Siblings Two Podcast is going to be distributed on a more regular basis."
• "One of the subjects we're going to dive into is the whole conversation about what do we call this thing?"

In this episode Nancy is joined by John. John is in his fifties, lives in the United Kingdom and has recently reported incidents of sibling sexual abuse to the police where he lives.

John is in the legal process so his voice and name has been altered to protect his anonymity.

In this episode:

• Contacting the local police
• Off to a bad start but seeing progress
• The family dynamic growing up
• What happens if I speak out?
• The signs of abuse
• Having a safe space
• The next steps for John

Have you registered for the #SiblingsToo Day event yet? What Every Parent Needs To Know About Sibling Sexual Abuse is on Saturday, 15 April 2023, across the globe 

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In today's episode, Nancy shares her views on the 2022 movie, The Wonder, starring Florence Pugh, Tom Burke, and Kila Lord Cassidy.

Though very well acted, an apparently gratuitous backstory of sibling sexual abuse once again demonstrates a lack of understanding in media of what SSA really is and its true impacts.

When advocates are trying to right the wrongs of misinformation and myths associated with SSA, this film certainly doesn't help that effort.

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In this probing episode of the #SiblingsToo podcast, host Nancy Morris explores the challenges of representing sibling sexual abuse (SSA) in television programs, joined by experts and survivors Brinn Langdale, Diane Tarantini, and Tanith McCulloch. Against the backdrop of media representations like HBO's White Lotus and the UK's Hollyoaks, they navigate the multifaceted conversations surrounding SSA and highlight the urgency for responsible and informed storytelling.

The episode critiques the portrayal of sibling sexual behavior in popular media, emphasizing the importance of accuracy, sensitivity, and comprehensive research in storytelling. Drawing on experiences with Hollyoaks and its reflective storytelling approach, the guests discuss how programs can shed light on the realities of SSA without resorting to sensationalism. Central themes include the societal need to recognize the prevalence of sibling sexual abuse and the vital role of resources and compassionate narratives in media. Engaging in this sensitive dialogue, they call for narratives that not only entertain but educate and provide pathways to healing and understanding for audiences worldwide.

Guest bios:

Brinn Langdale is a sibling sexual abuse survivor, a licensed therapist, writer, speaker, and host of the Wholistic Approach to Healing podcast. She's also the founder of Wholistic Approach, a transformational coaching program focused on healing the whole you.

www.brinnlangdale.com

Diane Tarantini is a sibling sexual abuse survivor based in Morgantown, West Virginia. She is an accomplished author, having written a children's book "The Brave Knight" and a memoir "Everyone Was Silent". Diane also works as a body safety educator, delivering crucial educational programs to public schools.

https://dianetarantini.com

Tanith McCulloch served as the Sibling Sexual Abuse Project Officer for SARSAS in the UK. In addition to her role as a counselor and supervisor, Tanith actively contributed to the sensitive portrayal of sibling sexual abuse in the British TV show Hollyoaks, assisting in script authenticity and accuracy.

Key Takeaways:

• Prevalence and Awareness: Sibling sexual abuse is a significant issue impacting numerous individuals, yet it remains underrepresented in popular media narratives.
• Consent and Responsibility: Media portrayals often fail to adequately address the complexities of consent, particularly in instances involving drugs or alcohol, portraying behaviors as consensual rather than abusive.
• Social Media and Survivor Communities: The episode discusses how social media serves as both a platform for survivor voices and a space for misinformation, emphasizing the need for informed conversation.
• Healing and Resources: Highlighting the fight for accurate storytelling, the discussion addresses the importance of providing resources and support for survivors within media representations.
• Future of SSA in Media: Diane, Tanith, and Brinn delved into their visions for future media portrayals which should influence public perceptions and lead to greater societal change.

Notable Quotes:

• "In the survivor groups that I'm a part of... to have a loss of connection to your family is a huge part of sibling sexual abuse that I don't think is being talked about." - Brinn Langdale
• "We have to come away from that narrative that it is a fantasy...and branch it out so people are being seen and represented." - Tanith McCulloch
• "In a perfect world, I would love to see the survivor disclose and have a positive experience with that, like they're believed, they're supported." - Diane Tarantini
• "Bring all the storylines and then let's get together on these kinds of calls with lived experience people ... to really start to pull this apart." – Nancy Morris

Resources:

• SARSAS
• RAINN
• White Lotus
• Hollyoaks

Chapters

0:00 Sibling Sexual Abuse Representation in Media and Its Impact

4:49 Controversial White Lotus Scene Sparks Social Media Debate

8:07 Addressing Sibling Sexual Abuse and Its Complex Impacts

12:49 Understanding Consent and Its Complexities in Media Narratives

15:15 Sibling Sexual Abuse Representation in Media and Its Challenges

23:58 Anticipation and Uncertainty in White Lotus' Final Episode

27:33 Understanding Sibling Sexual Trauma and Individual Reactions

31:23 Complex Storylines in Media and Their Impact on Audiences

33:19 The Debate Over Trigger Warnings and Their Impact

41:21 Diverse Media Representation of Complex SSA and SSB Experiences

44:58 Sibling Sexual Abuse and Family Dynamics in Media

49:21 Media's Role in Addressing Sibling Sexual Abuse Narratives

The plans and video recordings for the upcoming #SiblingsToo day on 15 April are coming together. In this episode, Nancy shares further details of the event, the speakers, and some of the information every parent needs to know about sibling sexual abuse.

For more information and to register, just go to www.SiblingsToo.com/events

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In this episode Nancy is joined by Gloria Masters, author and advocate for adults who have experienced child sexual abuse.

She speaks from sixteen years of lived experience and has managed to turn the corner of healing into giving back. She does this through highlighting the issue of child sexual abuse to help other survivors.

She has published her second book Flightpath to Healing – A Guide for CSA Survivors, and is also the Founder and CEO of Handing the Shame Back Foundation.

In this episode:

• Gloria's childhood experience
• Commonalities among SSA survivors
• The Book: On Angels Wings, My Flight From Trauma to Grace
• Writing and releasing
• The Book: Flightpath to Healing, A Guide for Child Sexual Abuse (CSA) Survivors
• Do not compare
• Handing the shame back
• Advocating for others

Connect with Gloria: https://gloriamasters.com

Podcast: https://handingtheshameback.buzzsprout.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/handingtheshameback/

Linkedin:https://www.linkedin.com/in/gloriamasters16handingtheshameback16nonprofit/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HandingtheShameBack/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/HandinShameBack

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@handingtheshameback  

Foundation: https://www.handingtheshameback.org/ 

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In this episode Nancy is joined by Steve to give his perspective on what it is like to be the partner of a sibling sexual abuse survivor.

Steve's partner is Jane Epstein. Jane is an SSA survivor, speaker, author, and advocate for the prevention of sibling and child-on-child sexual abuse and trauma.

In this episode:

• Feeling disconnected
• Hearing the news that your wife was abused by her brother
• Working through the issues
• Riding the waves of emotions
• Growing as a partner and an individual
• Sometimes it can be a lot 
• Having empathy
• Supporting a survivor

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In this episode Nancy is joined by Brandy Black.

Brandy is the Founder of the siblingsexualtrauma.com website and one of the founding members of 5WAVES.org

In this episode:

• The origin of the sibling sexual trauma website
• Searching for information and support
• Developing the website, becoming a resource and support for others
• Finding the right words
• Brandy's family journey
• The formation of 5WAVES

Resources:

https://www.siblingsexualtrauma.com

https://www.5waves.org

https://www.mosac.net

https://www.taalk.org

https://www.rainn.org

https://www.stopitnow.org

https://www.whatsok.org

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In this episode Nancy is joined by Maria Socolof. Maria is a chronic pain researcher, author and a sibling sexual trauma survivor.

In this episode:

• The onset of Maria's pain
• Say "I let go..."
• Learning about trauma and pain
• Feeling the mind-body connection
• Remembering the past
• Validation and knowing your truth
• The words we use are important

Resources:

https://healingfromchronicpain.com

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In this episode Nancy comments on three PEOPLE Magazine articles related to Sibling Sexual Abuse that were published on Oct 19th 2022.

In this episode:

• A brief overview of the articles featuring the stories of Jane Epstein, Brad Watts and Hope Sittler.
• Raising awareness of the facts and data
• No villains, but many heroes
• The impact on society
• An ask to share

Resources:

#SiblingsToo – www.siblingstoo.com to leave your anonymous story of SSA

Jane Epstein, Sexually Abused by Her Brother as a Child, Is Voice for Other Survivors of Sibling Sexual Abuse - https://people.com/health/jane-epstein-sexually-abused-by-brother-as-child-survivors-sibling-sexual-abuse/

When a Sibling Sexually Abuses a Sibling: What to know - https://people.com/health/when-a-sibling-sexually-abuses-a-sibling-what-to-know/

When a Child Sexually Abuses a Sibling: A Mother's Story - https://people.com/health/when-a-child-sexually-abuses-a-sibling-a-mothers-story/

5WAVES – www.5waves.org

Sibling Sexual Trauma resource site – www.siblingsexualtrauma.com

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In this episode Nancy is joined by Carole Brooks. Carole is a Sibling Sexual Abuse Specialist, Lived Experience Consultant, Advisory Board Member & CSA Spokesperson.

In this episode:

• Survivor and advocate 
• Opening Door documentary
• The importance of speaking out
• Carole's story
• Disconnecting from feelings and needing a sense of control
• Confrontations
• Taking legal action
• Getting well
• The life-changing turning point
• Living an authentic life
• What needs to happen next

Resources:

Opening Doors – Speaking Out About Sibling Sexual Abuse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD_ac_WwDO8 

Getting It Right – the professional response to adult disclosures of childhood sexual abuse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn-p2dJbVAk&t=138s

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In this episode Nancy is joined by Jane Epstein.

Jane Epstein is a speaker, author, and advocate for the prevention of sibling and child-on-child sexual abuse and trauma.

5WAVES is a collective voice promoting Worldwide Awareness, Voice, Education and Support around Sibling Sexual Trauma

In this episode:

• Jane's TEDx experience
• Coming out of dark places
• Breaking the silence
• Jane's family dynamic
• So what do we do?
• The effects ripple throughout the family
• What is coming up next for Jane
• Jane's personal growth

Jane's TEDx talk - Giving Voice to Sibling Sexual Abuse: https://youtu.be/0X5TvYrHxTA

Connect with Jane: https://www.complicatedcourage.com

Other Resources:

https://www.5waves.org

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In this episode Nancy is joined by Hope Sittler. Hope Sittler is a Mom coping with Sibling Sexual Trauma and an advocate for parents of Sibling Sexual Trauma. She is also a Founding Member of 5WAVES.

5WAVES is a collective voice promoting Worldwide Awareness, Voice, Education and Support around Sibling Sexual Trauma

In this episode:

• Part 1 (Episode 34)
• A mothers intuition
• Getting each family member the help they need
• Working with Child Protective Services

• Part 2 
• Feeling alone
• Finding support
• The voice is getting louder

Connect with Hope: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hope-sittler-2176a1231/

Other Resources:

https://www.5waves.org

https://www.siblingsexualtrauma.com

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In this episode Nancy is joined by Hope Sittler. Hope Sittler is a Mom coping with Sibling Sexual Trauma and an advocate for parents of Sibling Sexual Trauma. She is also a Founding Member of 5WAVES.

5WAVES is a collective voice promoting Worldwide Awareness, Voice, Education and Support around Sibling Sexual Trauma

In this episode:

• Part 1
• A mothers intuition
• Getting each family member the help they need
• Working with Child Protective Services

• Part 2 (Episode 35)
• Feeling alone
• Finding support
• The voice is getting louder

Connect with Hope: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hope-sittler-2176a1231/

Other Resources:

https://www.5waves.org

https://www.siblingsexualtrauma.com

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In this illuminating episode of the #SiblingsToo podcast, hosted by Nancy Morris, Anais Vanvliet returns to discuss her groundbreaking research on the experiences of non-abused, non-abuser siblings within families affected by child sexual abuse. Anais shares her passion for highlighting the often-overlooked impacts on these siblings, driven by her personal and professional commitment to the subject matter. Nancy and Anais delve into the critical need for more focused research and policy changes to address the gaps in support systems.

Diving deeper, Anais outlines her research's core questions, which explore both the experiences of these siblings and the current service provisions—or lack thereof—for them in Canada, particularly in Quebec and New Brunswick. She highlights the unique challenges and emotional impacts these siblings face, including feelings of isolation and jealousy, and the importance of trauma-informed approaches when engaging with them. Anais also touches on the broader conversation around sibling relationships in the context of family violence, emphasizing the need for comprehensive support systems and policy advocacy.

About our guest, Anais Vanvliet:

Anais Vanvliet is a PhD candidate in the School of Social Work at McGill University, focusing on the experiences and support needs of siblings in households where child sexual abuse (CSA) has occurred. Anais brings a unique perspective to her research with her lived experience as a sibling of survivors and her professional background as a trained social worker in sexual violence. Her work aims to enhance awareness, policy, and support systems for siblings affected by family violence in Canada.

Key Takeaways:

*   The sibling dynamic in CSA-affected households is under-researched, leading to insufficient support for non-abused, non-abuser siblings.

*   Anais aims to fill this research gap by focusing on these siblings' experiences and potential support needs.

*   The impacts on these siblings can mirror those of the survivors, with additional unique challenges like feelings of exclusion.

*   Current service provisions often overlook these siblings, highlighting a need for advocacy and policy changes.

*   Anais's research seeks to provide data-driven insights to improve awareness and service provision for siblings affected by CSA and family violence.

Notable Quotes:

1.  "All siblings in the household can be deeply impacted by sibling sexual abuse or child sexual abuse generally, even if they're not directly involved."

2.  "There's really no research or very, very, very little on the experiences of siblings surrounding child sexual abuse in a family."

3.  "My work hopefully will help to kind of fill those gaps."

4.  "If someone is missing in the conversation, the conversation is missing."

5.  "The timing is right to do this work because in Canada, we are slowly starting to pay closer attention to siblings in the context of family violence."

Resources:

*   Contact Anais Vanvliet via email anais.cadieuxvanvliet@mcgill.ca for participants interested in her research.

*   Mention of the scoping review by Peter Yates and Amy Adams on sibling sexual abuse -https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0145213424004666

Explore the full episode to gain an in-depth understanding of the dynamics of sibling relationships in CSA-affected households and to learn more about the vital research being conducted by Anais Vanvliet. Stay tuned for more insightful discussions and research findings in upcoming episode

Timestamp

Summary

0:00

Exploring Sibling Dynamics in the Context of Family Violence

8:15

Proliferation of Positive Psychology Research Projects in Early 2000s

8:57

Exploring Impacts on Siblings in Child Sexual Abuse Cases

12:45

Understanding Trauma's Impact on Non-Abused Siblings

16:10

Exploring Sibling Experiences in Child Sexual Abuse Research

24:24

Advocating for Sibling Support in Family Violence Services

28:30

Exploring Sibling Dynamics in Cases of Family Sexual Abuse

34:13

Exploring Sibling Experiences in Child Sexual Abuse Research

39:38

The Importance of Conversations on Sibling Sexual Abuse

On this episode, Nancy is joined by Peter Yates. 

Peter a qualified social worker with over ten years' experience of child protection and holds a PhD from the University of Edinburgh. His ESRC-funded PhD research project looked at social worker decision making in cases involving sexual behaviour between siblings. His interest in this subject grew from four years' work with Lighthouse, a specialist Barnardo's service working with children who display harmful sexual behaviour.

He has published several articles on the subject of victim crossover and risk assessment and on the subject of sibling sexual abuse. Peter is the co-author of Allardyce, S. and Yates, P. (2018) Working with children and young people who have displayed harmful sexual behaviour, Edinburgh, Dunedin Academic Press, which has been receiving some very positive reviews.

Peter has presented at national and international conferences and seminars on the subject of children who have displayed harmful sexual behaviour and sibling sexual abuse. He had extensive experience of programme development, and his current role is Programme Lead for Social Work at Edinburgh Napier University.

In this episode:

• Part 1:
• Peter's professional experience
• The difficulty of defining Sibling Sexual Abuse
• Harmful vs. Abusive
• Could the definition of harm belong to the victim?
• Engaging Social Services
• Understanding social workers
• The person, the behaviour
• Part 2:
• Prevention
• The grey area
• Frames that influence parents and social workers

Connect with Peter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-yates-95541ab7/

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➡️ Would you like to anonymously share your story of Sibling Sexual Abuse? Click Here ---> Share My Story

On this episode, Nancy is joined by Peter Yates. 

Peter a qualified social worker with over ten years' experience of child protection and holds a PhD from the University of Edinburgh. His ESRC-funded PhD research project looked at social worker decision making in cases involving sexual behaviour between siblings. His interest in this subject grew from four years' work with Lighthouse, a specialist Barnardo's service working with children who display harmful sexual behaviour. He has published several articles on the subject of victim crossover and risk assessment and on the subject of sibling sexual abuse. Peter is the co-author of Allardyce, S. and Yates, P. (2018) Working with children and young people who have displayed harmful sexual behaviour, Edinburgh, Dunedin Academic Press, which has been receiving some very possitive reviews. He has presented at national and international conferences and seminars on the subject of children who have displayed harmful sexual behaviour and sibling sexual abuse. He had extensive experience of programme development, and his current role is Programme Lead for Social Work at Edinburgh Napier University.

In this episode:

• Peter's professional experience
• The difficulty of defining Sibling Sexual Abuse
• Harmful vs. Abusive
• Could the definition of harm belong to the victim?
• Engaging Social Services
• Understanding social workers
• The person, the behaviour

Connect with Peter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-yates-95541ab7/

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On this episode, Nancy is joined by Fleur Strong. National Project Manager, RCEW National Project on Sibling Sexual Abuse.

Fleur has experience working with children who have been sexually exploited and has also worked in a rape crisis centre.

In this episode:

• It's a vast problem, and everyone is silent
• Why sibling sexual abuse is not acknowledged
• Front line professionals know there is a problem
• It's nuanced and multi-layered
• Networks are building
• It's not your shame to carry
• The power of the data

Additional Information

UK National Sibling Sexual Abuse Conference for Frontline Sectors 2022

Post-conference information pack

https://www.sarsas.org.uk/conference-information-pack/

Pack includes:

• Full recordings of all seven conference sessions – individually packaged and on YouTube
• Three *new* information/training films developed by our project (one for adult survivors, two for professionals) and now on YouTube
• Information and links on working with children harmed by sibling sexual abuse; children who have harmed their siblings; affected families; and, adult survivors of sibling sexual abuse
• Information on further training on sibling sexual abuse and Harmful Sexualised Behaviour

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On this episode, Nancy is joined by Brad Watts. Brad is a Licensed Professional Counsellor and Certified Sex Offender Treatment Provider, who primarily works with  sex offenders, sexual abuse survivors and their families.

In this episode:

• The silent epidemic
• Defining Sibling Sexual Abuse
• When sibling sexual abuse occurs and it is not addressed
• Long term impacts on the offender
• Silence exacerbates the trauma for all family members
• Myths of Sibling Sexual Abuse
• Why the lack of disclosure? 
• What needs to happen in society?

Connect with Brad: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brad-watts-47407618b/

Get the book: https://bradwattslpc.com

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On this episode, Nancy is joined by Kami Cotler.

Kami is best known for playing Elizabeth Walton on the iconic TV series, "The Waltons". Kami is now an educator with over twenty years of experience working at different levels of the education system. 

In this episode:

Part 1 (Ep.27)

• Kami's path as an educator
• Differentiating sibling sexual abuse from natural curiosity
• Shame in the survivor and the perpetrator
• Feeling empowered and having a voice 
• What role can schools play?

Part 2 (Ep.28)

• What needs to change so teachers can have the tools they need?
• What if sibling sexual abuse "hit the media"?

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On this episode, Nancy is joined by Kami Cotler.

Kami is best known for playing Elizabeth Walton on the iconic TV series, "The Waltons". Kami is now an educator with over twenty years of experience working at different levels of the education system. 

In this episode:

Part 1 (Ep.27)

• Kami's path as an educator
• Differentiating sibling sexual abuse from natural curiosity
• Shame in the survivor and the perpetrator
• Feeling empowered and having a voice 
• What role can schools play?

Part 2 (Ep.28)

• What needs to change so teachers can have the tools they need?
• What if sibling sexual abuse "hit the media"?

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On this episode, Nancy is joined by Brad Watts. Brad is a licensed professional counsellor, certified sex offender treatment provider at Hallmark Youthcare.

Nancy and Brad have a great discussion about the journey of healing as a family and as individuals after abuse has been discovered. 

In this episode:

• The family's journey after the abuse has been discovered
• The process of healing - what therapy looks like
• Reacting to the discovery of abuse
• Conflicting stories, who to believe?
• The abuser has damage as well
• Helping to facilitate open discussions
• Re-building trust
• The importance of the family dynamic in moving forward
• Coping strategies
• What healing looks like for the parent(s) & family
• An abusers path of healing 
• Why is sibling sexual abuse not talked about more?
• Normal curiosity or abuse?
• There is hope

Connect with Brad: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brad-watts-47407618b/

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On this episode Nancy shares an update regarding where she, and the podcast have been over the last few months. Nancy also shares some warning signs regarding sibling interactions and behaviour to be aware of during this time. 

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Nancy Morris pulls no punches in this episode as she calls out the growing trend of online hostility within survivor communities — especially when one survivor's perspective doesn't fit the expected narrative. After sharing a personal experience of being verbally attacked in a supposedly "safe" survivor group, Nancy unpacks the harm this kind of "keyboard courage" causes for everyone — especially those still trying to find their voice.

This isn't just a rant — it's a rallying cry. Survivors deserve space for every perspective, especially when those perspectives are grounded in healing, hope, and agency. If we want true safety and empowerment for survivors of sibling sexual abuse, it has to start with respect — even when we disagree.

In this episode:

• Why Nancy chose to break her usual format to speak out

• The meme that triggered a firestorm (and why it matters)

• How well-meaning survivor spaces can turn toxic

• The danger of "keyboard courage" in online forums

• Why respectful disagreement is critical in trauma recovery spaces

• A call to all survivors to model kindness, not cruelty

Key Takeaway:
Not every survivor experience looks the same. There's power in sharing — and responsibility in how we respond. If survivor spaces aren't truly safe for all survivor voices, they're not safe at all.

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Timestamped Outline:
[00:00] – Intro: Nancy breaks format to get personal
[01:30] – The Facebook meme that lit a fire: "Abusers get life sentences because survivors do"
[02:15] – Nancy's take: Not every survivor feels like they're serving a life sentence
[03:20] – The backlash begins — harsh comments from within a survivor forum
[04:50] – Clarifying the comment: Moving forward doesn't mean minimizing trauma
[05:45] – The flood of vitriol and personal attacks
[07:00] – Rereading her post: Was it really offensive?
[08:00] – Seeking support from confidants — and being validated
[09:10] – The dark side of survivor forums: false safety and rampant disrespect
[10:15] – The ripple effect: How online cruelty silences others
[11:00] – Nancy's reminder: Don't take it personally. Do speak out.
[11:40] – Final call: Survivors must treat each other with the respect we didn't get as children
[12:30] – Outro and how to connect

On this episode Nancy is joined by Chris. Chris is a survivor of sibling abuse behaviour and shares her story of how the behaviour has impacted her life, how healing is a work in progress and what the future looks like moving forward.

In this episode

• The terminology surrounding sibling abuse behaviour and its impact
• Its not always good guy, bad guy like the movies
• The harm of her abuse
• A work in progress
• Injury is injury regardless of intent
• A normal response to an abnormal situation
• Where does the narrative around sibling sexual abuse need to go?

* The name and voice of the guest has been altered to protect her identity and respect her privacy. 

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Episode Summary:

In this episode of the #SiblingsToo Podcast, host Nancy Morris talks with Dr. Peter Yates and Amy Adams about their scoping review on sibling sexual abuse (SSA), a critical step in consolidating fragmented research on this under-explored issue. By mapping the current knowledge base, their work identifies gaps in research, clarifies definitions, and lays the groundwork for improved understanding and future studies, making it an invaluable resource for addressing SSA more effectively.

Dr. Yates and Amy Adams discuss the complexities of defining SSA, revealing 27 different definitions in the literature and stressing the importance of clear, consistent language to avoid stigma and misinterpretation. They also examine prevalence rates, with adult disclosures ranging from 1.6% to 7%, highlighting the urgent need for increased societal awareness and targeted research. The conversation underscores the limitations of existing studies and calls for more rigorous approaches to fully understand SSA's onset, patterns, and long-term impacts.

About the Guest(s):

Dr. Peter Yates: Dr. Peter Yates is a lecturer in social work at Glasgow Caledonian University in Scotland. With a background in working in a specialist service assisting children and young people exhibiting harmful sexual behavior, Dr. Yates has dedicated his research to studying sibling sexual abuse, primarily focusing on cases involving boys abusing their siblings.

Amy Adams: Amy Adams is a doctoral researcher at the University of Birmingham, centered on family and sibling dynamics. Her current research delves into the relationships between siblings where one child has caused harm and another has been harmed, providing insight into the complex dynamics within such families.

Key Takeaways:

• Definition Complexity: The myriad definitions of sibling sexual abuse contribute to challenges in research and interventions, highlighting the need for a universal understanding to improve clarity and response.
• Prevalence Insights: Existing research reveals significant rates of SSA disclosure in adulthood, underscoring the need for societal acknowledgment and systemic approaches to dealing with such cases.
• Family Dynamics: The conversation delves into the factors correlating with SSA, emphasizing that it transcends socio-economic boundaries and often correlates with wider family disruptions.
• Need for Comprehensive Research: The episode stresses the importance of conducting more in-depth studies, including longitudinal research to establish causal pathways and effective interventions.
• Education and Intervention: Dr. Yates and Adams advocate for educational efforts starting early in childhood to prevent SSA, aiming for holistic family interventions tailored to support every family member affected by SSA.

Notable Quotes:

• "Because it's such a difficult concept to pin down… what we don't want to be doing is stigmatizing children and children's sexual behaviors unnecessarily." - Dr. Peter Yates
• "In terms of disclosure, most disclosures come in adulthood, not from children at the time of the incident." - Amy Adams
• "The idea that some people can touch children's bodies… can include and name specifically brothers and sisters." - Dr. Peter Yates
• "Sibling sexual abuse can take place in any families from across the socio-economic spectrum." - Dr. Peter Yates
• "We need more robust and stronger methodologies to make causal or pathway links." - Amy Adams

Resources:

• Glasgow Caledonian University
• University of Birmingham
• SiblingsToo Podcast: Website
• AIM Project (Manchester)

Chapters:

0:00

Sibling Sexual Abuse: Understanding, Disclosure, and Stigma

2:55

Exploring Research Gaps in Sibling Sexual Abuse Studies

9:24

Challenges in Defining Sibling Sexual Abuse and Its Implications

18:00

Defining Sibling Sexual Abuse and Its Research Implications

22:33

Reevaluating Sibling Sexual Abuse and Its Traumatic Impact

25:28

Challenges in Managing Sibling Relationships After Harm

27:30

Understanding Sibling Sexual Abuse and Societal Challenges

31:11

Prevalence and Research on Sibling Sexual Abuse

33:41

Understanding the Impact of Sibling Sexual Abuse

39:22

Understanding Sibling Sexual Abuse Across Diverse Family Dynamics

45:09

Addressing Gaps in Sibling Sexual Abuse Research and Prevention

51:04

Challenges in Disclosing Sibling Sexual Abuse Within Families

56:39

Challenges of Disclosure in Adulthood for Childhood Trauma Survivors

58:52

Risks and Rewards of Sharing Personal Struggles

1:00:15

Understanding Non-Verbal Disclosures of Child Sexual Abuse

1:02:26

Early Education and Prevention of Sibling Sexual Abuse

1:05:45

The Challenge of Establishing Clear and Consistent Definitions

1:07:29

Defining and Understanding Sibling Sexual Behaviors and Abuses

1:11:27

Global Research Gaps in Sibling Sexual Abuse Studies

1:16:29

Exploring Whole Family Interventions for Sibling Sexual Abuse

1:21:28

Family Education as a Tool for Abuse Prevention

1:24:39

Addressing Sibling Sexual Abuse Through Broader Societal Responsibility

1:27:11

Increasing Research and Public Discourse on Sibling Sexual Abuse

1:34:57

Scoping Review on Sibling Sexual Abuse: Methodology and Future Directions

1:38:29

Sharing Open Access Research on the SiblingsToo Podcast

On this episode Nancy has a quick update on the scheduling of the podcast as well as an easy way to support the podcast and the #SiblingsToo project. 

Nancy would also like to recognize and thank all the people who have shared their story on the website. Thank you for contributing, you are seen, heard and believed! 

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On this episode Nancy talks about what parents need to know about sibling sexual abuse and some of the unfortunate facts that support the current statistics. This episode highlights the importance of being educated about sibling abuse and sibling sexual abuse.

In this Episode: 

• The definition of sibling sexual abuse
• Sibling abuse or violence
• 2.2 million children being abused by a sibling
• Frequency and type of abuse 
• Long-term consequences
• Parents often normalize sibling abuse
• The risks of not reporting abuse
•  A guide for parents

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On this episode Nancy looks back over the past couple of months to review what she has learned, expectations for the future as well as an invitation for listeners to join Nancy on the podcast for an interview. Survivors, perpetrators or family members who have experienced SSA   play an important role in helping us to get the word out further and let others know that they are not alone. 

Other great potential guest would be professionals in the medical field, psychology, social services, criminal law and mental health fields that work with people who experience SSA. 

If you are a host, or know a host of a podcast that has a show that is  complimentary to the subject matter discussed here, reach out to Nancy to discuss possible collaborations.  

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The #SiblingsToo project exists because it is time for people to be able to share there story and bring light to sibling sexual abuse.

On this episode it is time for Nancy to share her story. She shares what she recalls happened years ago, as well as how some of those events may have impacted her life.

Nancy also shares what she has come to understand through her own work with her psychologist and what her hopes and aspirations are for the future for herself and the #SiblingsToo project. 

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On this episode (Part 2 of 2) Nancy is joined by Patricia Downing - Integrative Psychotherapist. 

Nancy and Patricia discuss mindfulness and how it can be used to support individuals. 

Patricia Downing is a Integrative Psychotherapist and Mindful Practitioner who has worked with therapy clients since 2005 and is accredited by the British Association of Councillors and Psychotherapists. In 2012 she earned her certificate in Mindfulness based Cognitive Therapy. 

Patricias has experience working with a range of services that includes:

• primary care counselling
• student counselling
• trauma services 
• sexual assault and abuse
• disordered eating 

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On this episode (Part 1 of 2) Nancy is joined by Patricia Downing - Integrative Psychotherapist. 

Nancy and Patricia discuss therapies and how they can be supportive in exploring sibling sexual abuse and its impact on an individual or a family.  

Patricia Downing is a Integrative Psychotherapist and Mindful Practitioner who has worked with therapy clients since 2005 and is accredited by the British Association of Councillors and Psychotherapists. In 2012 she earned her certificate in Mindfulness based Cognitive Therapy. 

Patricias has experience working with a range of services that includes:

• primary care counselling
• student counselling
• trauma services 
• sexual assault and abuse
• disordered eating 

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On this episode Nancy answers some questions she has received regarding #SiblingsToo and sibling sexual abuse. 

• If it is such a predominant issue, why don't we hear about it more?
• How can i begin the healing process?
• What can I do to help? 

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On this episode Nancy talks about how there have been a number of people who have reached out to ask how they can support the #SiblingsToo project even though they have not been directly effected by sibling sexual abuse.

A great way to support is to be a guest on the show or refer someone who you know who will tell their story and allow others to learn from their experiences. We would love to hear from you if you are a:

• survivor
• perpetrator
• member of a family where abuse has been present 
• social worker
• psychologist
• professional researcher
• law enforcement member
• lawyer
• addictions councillor 
• media representative 

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On this episode Nancy talks about the importance of the use of our words. The words we use and the story we share determine our life experience.

The stories we create with our words are fundamental to our sense of identity which impacts our emotions and behaviours. 

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On this episode Nancy talks about the emotions, feelings and thoughts associated with shame that adult survivors of sibling sexual abuse feel and the factors that make those feeling worse. 

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In this compelling episode, host Nancy Morris dives into a profound discussion with Dr. Risa Shaw, a trailblazer in the study of sibling sexual abuse (SSA). The episode centers around Risa's influential book, *Not Child's Play: An Anthology on Brother-Sister Incest*, and the transformative power of speaking out against abuse. Together, they uncover the societal stigma that shrouds SSA, the importance of sharing survivor stories, and the ongoing impact of these narratives on reducing isolation and fostering healing.

Risa recounts the painstaking journey behind creating her anthology, which spans from its initial concept in 2000 to its updated second edition. The conversation extends to highlight the benefits and challenges of disclosure, emphasizing that speaking up is a highly transformative act that offers profound personal healing. They also share poignant stories from the book, notably those of Marian and Dorothy, sisters who only found the courage to speak about their abuse in their later years, showing that it's never too late to break the silence. This episode is a beacon for anyone seeking understanding or grappling with the difficulties of SSA.

About Risa:

Dr. Risa Shaw is a survivor of brother-sister incest. In her new preface of the second edition of Not Child's Play, she reveals the power of 40 years of truth-telling to address the abuse, shame, self-blame, self-hatred, and damage done not only to her, but to every survivor of sibling incest. Risa has never shied away from the challenge of telling truth to power and she intentionally finds ways to center and amplify the voices of those silenced by oppression and violence. She is an educator, leader, and activist, living her life outloud for nearly 45 years in the Washington, D.C. area. Risa shares her life with her wife of 37 years and a large beloved community. With the first edition of Not Child's Play in 2000 and now the publication of a second edition with a new Preface, Foreword, and Afterword, Risa has translated decades of hard, brave, and meaningful work into a means of healing both for herself and for her readers.

Key Takeaways:

*   Importance of Speaking Out: Sharing one's story of sibling sexual abuse is a transformative act that reduces isolation and opens the door to healing.

*   Impact of Risa's Work: Dr. Shaw's book *Not Child's Play* remains pivotal in the discourse around SSA, being the only anthology of first-person accounts.

*   Generational Effects: Disclosing and addressing SSA can positively affect subsequent generations, promoting awareness and prevention.

*   Challenges of Disclosure: Survivors face societal and familial pushback, but overcoming these challenges leads to significant personal growth and empowerment.

*   Continued Advocacy: The ongoing conversation and research into SSA are essential for changing societal attitudes and supporting survivors.

Notable Quotes:

1.  "Speaking out was a transformative act; it changed their lives."

2.  "By speaking up, we're not only doing it for ourselves, we're also doing it for everybody else in the family and in society."

3.  "You can start by telling your story to a piece of paper or your teddy bear – just get it out."

4.  "Bravery is contagious and speaking out leads to joy."

5.  "Reading and giving people the book shows them that we need to talk about sibling sexual abuse. We have to believe the children."

Resources:

*   Not Child's Play: An Anthology on Brother-Sister Incest (http://notchildsplaybook.com) - Official website to buy the book and learn more about Risa Shaw.

*   Risa Shaw's Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/risashawnotchildsplay) - Follow for updates on her work and advocacy.

*   Risa Shaw's Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/notchildsplayanthology) - Stay connected and informed through visual storytelling and updates.

*   Computer-generated transcript -https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dSQfVDHDFlGOY0spIpXgENBaOg1NklXM/view?usp=sharing

Chapters

0:00

Exploring Sibling Sexual Abuse Through Stories and Research

4:49

The Importance of Storytelling in Understanding and Preventing SSA

7:55

The Journey of Sharing and Understanding Sibling Sexual Abuse

10:50

The Power and Pain of Speaking Up About Abuse

14:41

Breaking the Silence on Family and Societal Trauma

17:52

Teaching Consent and Boundaries Through Interactive Activities

18:47

The Transformative Power of Speaking Out Against Abuse

26:14

Understanding Power Dynamics in Relationships and Society

27:41

The Power of Sharing and Releasing Family Secrets

34:20

Marian and Dorothy's Lifelong Journey of Healing and Connection

38:53

The Impact of Sibling Sexual Abuse and the Importance of Disclosure

44:22

Healing Through Storytelling and Personal Growth

47:57

The Transformative Power of Speaking Out and Sharing Stories

Listen to this valuable episode to gain deeper insights into sibling sexual abuse, the importance of storytelling, and how courage can spark system change. Stay tuned for more thought-provoking content from the #SiblingsToo podcast.

On this episode Nancy shares about what forgiveness is, what it is not, and some steps you can take to possibly get closer to forgiving those who have done harm or abused you.

Forgiveness is not about giving someone a pass, or condoning the behaviour, it is about giving yourself freedom from the emotional pain. 

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On this episode Nancy talks about the importance of how the behaviour of a family contributes to the occurrence of SSA and their response to SSA occurring contributes to the long-term impacts on both victim and perpetrator. 

There are many family factors that seem to impact the likelihood of SSA occurring. Understanding these factors within your own family may create opportunities for your intervention. 

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This episode does not feature any experts, or people who have had  personal experience with sibling sexual abuse.

This is a conversation between two members of the #SiblingsToo production team to give you the outsiders perspective and to shine a light on how important raising awareness for this project is.

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One of the primary objectives of #SiblingsToo is to normalize the conversation of Sibling Sexual Abuse so that survivors and even perpetrators can come out from the shadows and speak their truth.

On this recent media interview Nancy shares about the SiblingsToo project, how important it is to start having this conversation and the impact it can have. 

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➡️ Would you like to anonymously share your story of Sibling Sexual Abuse? Click Here ---> Share My Story