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The Transformation Trap: Why Software Modernization Is Harder Than It Looks21 Aug 202500:33:26

In this episode of Screaming in the Cloud, Corey Quinn talks with Jonathan Schneider, CEO of Moderne and author on Java microservices and automated code remediation. They explore why upgrading legacy systems is so hard, Schneider’s journey from Netflix to building large-scale code transformation tools like OpenRewrite, and how major companies like Amazon, IBM, and Microsoft use it.

They also discuss AI in software development, cutting through the hype to show where it genuinely helps, and the human and technical challenges of modernization. The conversation offers a practical look at how AI and automation can boost productivity without replacing the need for expert oversight.



Show Highlights

(2:07) Book Writing and the Pain of Documentation

(4:03) Why Software Modernization Is So Hard

(6:53) Automating Software Modernization at Netflix

(8:07) Culture and Modernization: Netflix vs. Google vs. JP Morgan

(10:40) Social Engineering Problems in Software Modernization

(13:20) The Geometric Explosion of Software Complexity

(17:57) The Foundation for LLMs in Software Modernization

(21:16) AI Coding Assistants: Confidence, Fallibility, and Collaboration

(22:37) The Python 2 to 3 Migration: Lessons for Modernization

(27:56) The Human Element: Responsibility, Skepticism, and the Future of Work

Links

  1. Wiz Cloud Security Health Scan: https://www.wiz.io/crying-out-cloud
  2. Modern (Jonathan Schneider's company): https://modern.ai
  3. LinkedIn (Jonathan Schneider): https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanschneider/



AI's Security Crisis: Why Your Assistant Might Betray You07 Aug 202501:05:01

On this episode of Screaming in the Cloud, Corey Quinn talks with Simon Willison, founder of Datasette and creator of LLM CLI about AI’s realities versus the hype. They dive into Simon’s “lethal trifecta” of AI security risks, his prediction of a major breach within six months, and real-world use cases of his open source tools, from investigative journalism to OSINT sleuthing. Simon shares grounded insights on coding with AI, the real environmental impact, AGI skepticism, and why human expertise still matters. A candid, hype-free take from someone who truly knows the space.


Highlights


00:00 Introduction and Security Concerns
02:32 Conversations and Kindness
04:56 Niche Museums and Collecting
06:52 Blogging as a Superpower
08:01 Challenges of Writing and AI
15:08 Unique Use Cases of Dataset
19:33 The Evolution of Open Source
21:09 Security Vulnerabilities in AI
32:18 Future of AI and AGI Concerns
37:10 Learning Programming with AI
39:12 Vibe Coding and Its Risks
41:49 Environmental Impact of AI
46:34 AI in Legal and Creative Fields
54:20 Voice AI and Ethical Concerns
01:00:07 Monetizing Content Creatively

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Making Dropping and Sharing Easy with Timo Josten01 Apr 202500:30:31

Dropping and sharing files should be easy. What a novel idea. On this episode, Corey speaks with Timo Josten, the sole developer behind Dropshare. We bring up the fact that he’s the only guy working on it because the tool is quite impressive! Corey loves it and so does an entire community of folks on Github! Together, they discuss the evolution and functionality of Dropshare. Timo also shares how he balance of enhancing Dropshare, emphasizing user feedback, and customization options, all while offering feature updates and maintaining sustainability. 



Show Highlights

(0:00) Intro

(1:06) The Duckbill Group sponsor read

(1:39) What does Dropshare do? 

(6:10) Dropshare's impressive flexibility and dedicated community

(10:27) How Timo landed on Dropshare's business model

(12:38) What's new in Dropshare 6?

(16:09) The Duckbill Group sponsor read

(16:36) Determining what should be an update or part of the next version of Dropshare

(18:30) Dropshare’s iOS app

(21:04) The perks of being able to configure deletion in Dropshare

(25:45) Dropshare's thriving GitHub community

(29:26) Where you can find more from Timo and Dropshare



About Timo Josten

Timo Josten is the developer of Dropshare, the macOS and iOS app to upload anything anywhere.


Links

Sponsor

The Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com 

Shifting from Observability 1.0 to 2.0 with Charity Majors02 Apr 202400:33:00

This week on Screaming in the Cloud, Corey is joined by good friend and colleague, Charity Majors. Charity is the CTO and Co-founder of Honeycomb.io, the widely popular observability platform. Corey and Charity discuss the ins and outs of observability 1.0 vs. 2.0, why you should never underestimate the power of software to get worse over time, and the hidden costs of observability that could be plaguing your monthly bill right now. The pair also shares secrets on why speeches get better the more you give them and the basic role they hope AI plays in the future of computing. Check it out!



Show Highlights:

(00:00 - Reuniting with Charity Majors: A Warm Welcome

(03:47) - Navigating the Observability Landscape: From 1.0 to 2.0

(04:19) - The Evolution of Observability and Its Impact

(05:46) - The Technical and Cultural Shift to Observability 2.0

(10:34) - The Log Dilemma: Balancing Cost and Utility

(15:21) - The Cost Crisis in Observability

(22:39) - The Future of Observability and AI's Role

(26:41) - The Challenge of Modern Observability Tools

(29:05) - Simplifying Observability for the Modern Developer

(30:42) - Final Thoughts and Where to Find More



About Charity

Charity is an ops engineer and accidental startup founder at honeycomb.io. Before this she worked at Parse, Facebook, and Linden Lab on infrastructure and developer tools, and always seemed to wind up running the databases. She is the co-author of O'Reilly's Database Reliability Engineering, and loves free speech, free software, and single malt scotch.


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The Current State of Serverless with Kristi Perreault27 Mar 202400:33:30

On this week’s episode of Screaming in the Cloud, Corey is joined by Kristi Perreault. Given Kristi’s title of AWS Serverless Hero, Corey and Kristi discuss the origins and current state of the serverless world, the similarities between AI and serverless as the tech world moves into this next era, and why she emphasizes that serverless is not always the right solution for every issue. Kristi also opens up about her role as Principal Software Engineer at Liberty Mutual, and what she enjoys most about jet setting around the globe giving speeches.

Highlights:

(00:00) - Introducing Kristi Perreault

(00:39) - The Unconventional Path to Becoming an AWS Serverless Hero

(05:05) - Exploring the Boundaries of Cloud Education

(10:53) - The Challenges of Keeping Up with Rapid Tech Changes

(11:51) - Redefining Serverless: Beyond the Hype

(13:12) - The Evolution of Serverless and Its Impact

(21:55) - Staying Grounded Amidst Technological Zealotry

(27:18) - Python Development in the Cloud

(29:31) - Upcoming Talks and Where to Connect with Kristi


About Kristi

Kristi Perreault is an AWS Serverless Hero and a Principal Software Engineer at Liberty Mutual Insurance, where her focus is serverless-first cloud enablement. She has over 5 years of industry experience, holds an M.S. in Electrical & Computer Engineering, and is very passionate about promoting women in technology. She is an established speaker, appearing in over 35 conferences, podcasts, panels, and more. Kristi founded the Serverless Denver meetup, and currently co-organizes the Portsmouth, NH AWS User Group and CDK Day. Outside of work and the serverless tech space, Kristi can be found reading a good book in her tiny home, enjoying a good poke bowl, or jet setting all over the world.


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Networks and Sustainability in Computing with George Porter21 Mar 202400:35:34

George Porter, a computer science professor at the University of California, San Diego, talks to us about advanced networking and the effects of computing on the environment In this episode of Screaming in the cloud. George explores the shift towards optical networking in data centers to meet growing bandwidth needs and discusses the significant carbon footprint associated with computing, from data centers to device production. In addition to providing a look into the future of scalable, sustainable computing systems, George mentions the difficulties and benefits of incorporating cloud computing into academic research. 

Show Highlights:

(00:00) - Introduction 

(03:15) - The Shift to Optical Networking

(07:50) - The Efficiency of Cloud Networks

(12:06) - Adaptable Networks for Different Uses

(16:19) - Reducing Computing's Carbon Footprint

(20:25) - Highlighting Computing's Environmental Impact Through Art

(26:51) - Cloud Computing Challenges in Academia

(31:18) - The benefits of cloud computing for academic research

(34:14) - Closing thoughts 


About George:
A Computer Science Professor at UC San Diego focusing on high-performance and sustainable computer systems

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Open Source, AI, and Business Insights with AB Periasamy14 Mar 202400:44:16

Join Corey Quinn and MinIO's co-founder and CEO, AB Periasamy, for a look into MinIO's strategic approach to integrating open-source contributions with its business objectives amidst the AI evolution. They discuss the effect of AI on data management, highlight the critical role of data replication, and advocate for the adoption of cloud-native architecture. Their conversation examines the insights of data replication, mentioning its pivotal role in ensuring efficient data management and storage. Overall, a recurring theme throughout the episode is the importance of simplifying technology to catalyze a broader understanding and utilization that can remain accessible and beneficial to all.


Show Highlights:
(00:00) - Intro

(03:40) - MinIO's evolution and commitment to simplicity and scalability.

(07:25) - The significance of data replication and object storage's versatility.

(12:12) - Challenges and innovations in data backup and disaster recovery.
(15:21) - Launch of MinIO's Enterprise Object Store and its comprehensive features.
(20:50) - Balancing open-source contributions and commercial objectives.

(30:32) - AI's growing influence on data storage strategies and MinIO's role.

(34:33) - The shift towards software-defined data infrastructure driven by AI and cloud technologies.

(39:40) - Resources and the future of tech 

(43:31) - Closing thoughts 

About A.B Periasamy:

AB Periasamy is the CEO and co-founder of MinIO. One of the leading thinkers and technologists in the open source software movement, AB was a co-founder and CTO of GlusterFS which was acquired by RedHat in 2011. Following the acquisition, he served in the office of the CTO at RedHat prior to founding MinIO in late 2015. AB is an active angel investor and serves on the board of H2O.ai and the Free Software Foundation of India. He earned his BE in Computer Science and Engineering from Annamalai University.

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A Beginner's Guide to Surviving AWS re:Invent with Chris Hill07 Mar 202400:28:01

Corey Quinn is joined by HumblePod CEO Chris Hill to dissect Chris's debut experience at AWS re:Invent. Together, they tackle the challenges of attending one of the biggest conferences in the IT industry, discussing its immense reach, logistical hurdles, and invaluable insights for anyone considering attending in the future. Beyond the event itself, Chris provides an intimate glimpse into the crucial behind-the-scenes efforts involved in producing exceptional content amid the chaos of AWS re:Invent, emphasizing the importance of kindness, professionalism, and superior audio quality. Discover how partnering with an experienced podcast production team can elevate any content to new heights of polish and engagement.

Full Description / Show Notes

(00:00) - Introduction to the Episode

(01:25) - Chris's First Impressions of AWS re:Invent

(02:09) - The Surprising Scale of AWS re:Invent

(04:13) - Lessons Learned and Things Chris Would Do Differently at Future AWS re:Invent Events

(07:52) - Balancing Content Creation, Networking, and Professionalism Under Stress

(13:42) - Chris and Corey’s Humorous Encounters with Security While Filming at AWS re:Invent

(15:35) - Exploring AWS Services and Billing Surprises

(21:12) - Significance of Professional Podcast Production

(25:04) - Closing Thoughts & HumblePod Contact Information

(26:19) - Closing Thoughts


About Chris:

Chris Hill is a Knoxville, TN native and owner of the podcast production company, HumblePod. He helps his customers create, develop, and produce podcasts and is working with clients in Knoxville as well as startups and entrepreneurs across the United States, Silicon Valley, and the world.In addition to producing podcasts for nationally-recognized thought leaders, Chris is the co-host and producer of the award-winning Our Humble Beer Podcast. 

He also lectures at the University of Tennessee, where he leads non-credit courses on podcasts and marketing.  He received his undergraduate degree in business at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga where he majored in Marketing & Entrepreneurship, and he later received his MBA from King University. 

Chris currently serves his community as the President of the American Marketing Association in Knoxville. In his spare time, he enjoys hanging out with the local craft beer community, international travel, exploring the great outdoors, and his many creative pursuits.


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The Nuanced Power of Headless Browsers with Joel Griffith05 Mar 202400:30:30

On this week’s episode of Screaming in the Cloud, Corey Quinn is joined by Joel Griffith. Joel is  the CEO of Browserless.io, a company focused on providing headless browser automation without the pains of hosting. Corey and Joel discuss the most common use cases for headless browsers, the spectrum of web scraping ethics over the last decade, and why it’s so important to always do what you are passionate about no matter how high you climb on the corporate ladder. Joel also gives us his insight into why so many engineers come from creative backgrounds and shares his story of moving from jazz trumpet player to CEO.


Full Description / Show Notes

  • (00:00) - Intro
  • (00:53) - Guest Introduction: Joel Griffith
  • (02:51) - The Genesis of Browserless.io
  • (05:21) - Use Cases of Browserless.io
  • (07:19) -The Potential for Abuse of Web Scraping
  • (08:37) - The Legitimate Use Cases of Web Scraping
  • (11:17) - The Power of the Right License Type
  • (13:55) - The Value of Open Source and Charging for Software
  • (14:13) - The Journey to Starting a Business
  • (24:00) - Joel’s Emphasis on Quality of Life
  • (27:43) - Staying Focused on the Work You’re Passionate About
  • (30:00) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts

About Joel

Master of puppets and the browsers they run! I'm Joel Griffith, and for over a decade I've helped run, destroy, and make manageable things related to browser automation. I've had the pleasure of working on this in big companies and small, and more recently started Browserless to bring the power of automation to teams of all sizes.


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The Complexities of Cloud Networking with William Collins29 Feb 202400:30:33

Corey is joined by William Collins, Alkira's head cloud architect, to discuss the obstacles and possibilities of cloud networking. They discuss the evolution, challenges, and necessity of cloud networking, highlighting why this fundamental part of cloud design often goes unrecognized yet truly deserves attention. From William's early days of cloud skepticism to the incredible influence of services such as AWS Transit Gateway, William shares his experiences and insights into how network planning can make a big difference in cloud installations in this episode of Screaming in the Cloud.


Show Notes:

About William Collins:

William Collins is a principal cloud architect at Alkira, where he plays a pivotal role in evangelizing the company's vision, building customer relationships, and leading thought in the network, security, and automation spaces within the cloud ecosystem. With a rich background in enterprise technology across financial services and healthcare, including a significant tenure as Director of Cloud Architecture at Humana, William has made substantial contributions to cloud adoption and network modernization. Beyond his professional pursuits, William is passionate about content creation, hosting The Cloud Gambit Podcast, and teaching as a LinkedIn Learning Instructor. His expertise spans automation, cloud computing, and network engineering. An advocate for continuous learning and innovation, William's outside interests include woodworking, playing ice hockey, and guitar. While his insights are influential, they reflect his personal views and not those of his employer.


Show Highlights: 


(00:00) Introduction

(03:24) William Collins shares his initial skepticism towards cloud computing 

(07:28) The evolution of cloud networking

(13:50) The role of upfront planning in cloud network deployment to avoid scalability and complexity issues.

(21:10) The shift from complicated, manual network setups to simple, effective cloud systems .

(24:13) William uses Netflix's network design as an example of how cloud networking powers seamless user experiences 

(27:44) The future of cloud networking and the ongoing need for innovation

(30:23)  Closing remarks 


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The Hidden Costs of Cloud Computing with Jack Ellis27 Feb 202400:35:17

On this week’s episode of Screaming in the Cloud, Corey Quinn is joined by Jack Ellis. He is the technical co-founder of Fathom Analytics, a privacy-first alternative to Google Analytics. Corey and Jack talk in-depth about a wide variety of AWS services, which ones have a habit of subtly hiking the monthly bill, and why Jack has moved towards working with consultants instead of hiring a costly DevOps team. This episode is truly a deep dive into everything AWS and billing-related led by one of the best in the industry. Tune in.


Show Highlights

  • (00:00) - Introduction and Background
  • (00:31) - The Birth of Fathom Analytics
  • (03:35) - The Surprising Cost Drivers: Lambda and CloudWatch
  • (05:27) - The New Infrastructure Plan: CloudFront and WAF Logs
  • (08:10) - The Unexpected Costs of CloudWatch and NAT Gateways
  • (10:37) - The Importance of Efficient Data Movement
  • (12:54) - The Hidden Costs of S3 Versioning
  • (14:33) - The Benefits of AWS Compute Optimizer
  • (17:38) - The Implications of AWS's New IPv4 Address Charges
  • (18:57) - Considering On-Premise Data Centers
  • (21:05) - The Economics of Cloud vs On-Premise
  • (24:05) - The Role of Consultants in Cloud Management
  • (31:05) - The Future of Cloud Management
  • (33:20) - Closing Thoughts and Contact Information

About Jack Ellis

Technical co-founder of Fathom Analytics, the simple, privacy-first alternative to Google Analytics.

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How Scaling Turns Rare Occurrences Into Common Ones with Jason Cohen22 Feb 202400:52:25

Today Corey Quinn is joined by Founder and Chief Innovation Officer at WP Engine, Jason Cohen. Jason breaks down the biggest issues he has seen throughout his career hosting millions of websites including why seemingly rare problems should be expected at scale, how moving on after attaining a “good enough” metric can save time and money, and what it means to be proud of your work in the world of cybersecurity. Check it out!

Show Highlights

  • (00:00) - WordPress popularity and outsourcing engineering tasks
  • (07:28) - Web hosting and scalability
  • (11:01) - Server reliability and quality control
  • (14:18) - Scaling infrastructure and prioritizing customer value
  • (26:20) - Website speed and optimization
  • (28:17) - WordPress scalability and deployment in a cloud environment
  • (36:14) - Customer profitability and service limitations
  • (38:54) - Security measures for ethical decision-making
  • (47:19) - Balancing free speech and decision-making in online content moderation

About Jason

Founder of unicorn WP Engine (200,000 customers, 1,200 employees). Previously founder of bootstrapped Smart Bear (sold 2008; re-sold in 2021 at ~$2B) and ITWatchDogs (sold 2004). Original mentor and angel investor with Austin-based Capital Factory since 2009.

Written about startups for seventeen years, most recently at https://longform.asmartbear.com; Twitter: @asmartbear.


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Overcoming Cloud Development Obstacles with Elad Ben-Israel20 Feb 202400:34:19

Corey Quinn talks with Elad Ben-Israel, CEO and Co-founder of Wing Cloud, about the creation of Wing, a revolutionary programming language designed to simplify cloud application development. Elad shares his experiences at AWS and the journey to developing Wing Cloud, highlighting the challenges developers face with existing cloud paradigms and how Wing aims to seamlessly integrate infrastructure and application code. The conversation goes further into Wing's open-source nature, its design philosophy focused on making cloud development more accessible, and the delicate balance between commercial interests and open-source contributions.


Show highlights: 


(00:17)
- Corey Quinn introduces Elad Ben-Israel

(02:27) - Elad Ben-Israel discusses the motivation behind creating Wing,


(06:28)
- Elad presents Wing as a programming language designed to add an architectural dimension to cloud programming

(09:45) - The demarcation between application and platform is explored

(13:27) - Introduction of the "platform provider" within Wing


(22:18)
- The Importance of Choice in Cloud Development


(31:22)
- Getting started on Wing 

(33:14) - Closing remarks 


About Elad Ben-Israel:
Elad has been coding since he remembers himself, which is quite a long time ago, and always had an unexplained attraction to developer tools. He created the AWS CDK when working at AWS and is now the co-founder and CEO of Wing Cloud, which is building Winglang, a programming language for the cloud.


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“Just in Case” vs. “Just in Time” with Aditya Bhargava25 Mar 202500:32:51

How you learn is important. Corey Quinn is joined by Aditya Bhargava, a Staff Software Engineer at Etsy and the author of Grokking Algorithms. They talk about the nuances of technical learning and the contrasting philosophies of "just in time" versus "just in case" learning. In this episode, Aditya emphasizes the importance of effective teaching methods and the value of incorporating fun things like drawings into technical explanations. This approach also bleeds into his illustrated Substack, DuckTypes. As Corey and Aditya discuss, a good, informative book doesn’t need to drag on, and this quick, insightful, 30-minute conversation is no different.



Show Highlights

(0:00) Intro

(1:24) The Duckbill Group sponsor read

(1:58) Corey's admiration for Aditya's writing

(5:40) How Aditya clearly explains AWS networking

(8:06) “Just in case” vs. “just in time”

(10:15) Why business books don't need to be hundreds of pages long

(14:19) Reading for pleasure vs. reading for work

(16:57) The Duckbill Group sponsor read

(17:24) Explaining Aditya's book on algorithms

(20:07) The great editor behind Aditya's book

(22:20) DuckTyped and how Aditya got into AWS networking

(25:16) Where networking folks fall in the era of the cloud

(28:12) The importance of staying up-to-date in your field

(31:46) Where you can find more from Aditya



About Aditya Bhargava

Aditya Bhargava is a Software Engineer with a dual background in Computer Science and Fine Arts. He blogs on programming at adit.io.



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Sponsor

The Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com 


A Conversation on Cloud WAN with Kris Gillespie15 Feb 202400:38:32

Kris Gillespie, lead platform engineer for Silverflow, joins Corey Quinn on "Screaming in the Cloud" to talk about Cloud WAN's exciting new role in cloud networking. Kris explains Silverflow's journey, from the original problems with network scalability and the resolution of IP conflicts, to fully utilizing Cloud WAN for global connectivity and easier network management. Kris, who enjoys simplifying complex network architectures, discusses how Cloud WAN has enabled Silverflow to seamlessly integrate between regions and cloud providers, meeting their mission-critical needs for low latency and reliable transaction processing. Listen in to see how Cloud WAN has transformed the approach to solving fundamental network problems, demonstrating the importance for companies and engineers of knowing how to navigate the constantly evolving cloud landscape. 

Show Highlights: 

  • (00:00) Introduction to the show
  • (01:57) Kris recounts the initial challenges Silverflowy and the discovery of Cloud WAN
  • (04:15) The advantages of Cloud WAN over traditional transit gateways
  • (08:35) Infrastructure management with OrgFormation 
  • (12:15) Insights into the use of historical and current networking technologies 
  • (21:13) challenges and implications of transitioning to IPv6
  • (33:10) Kris highlights the real need for Cloud WAN
  • (37:50) Closing remarks


About Kris

Kris is a 28-year industry veteran. He started in '95 back in Australia on the help desk for the first ISP in the country. Since then has moved to the Netherlands, switching roles between network, systems and storage engineering. During this time has been involved in developing certifications for both IBM and (the now defunct) EMC, among others. Worked heavily in the finance/banking sector. The last 10 years has been keenly focused on the cloud space and as is the term these days, combined these skills into what's popularly coined, a "Platform Engineer"

Currently works for a payments processing startup, Silverflow, as their Principal Platform Engineer, leading their Platform team and ensuring the platform can scale globally.


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Understanding the Future of Cloud Technology with Anthony Esper13 Feb 202400:30:54

From a systems admin to a cloud computing pioneer, Anthony Esper illustrates the dynamic landscape of cloud technology and its impact on businesses in this episode of Screaming in the Cloud. Using his vast experience and extensive expertise, Anthony shares his insights on developing the Golden VPC module, the intricacies of cloud consulting across various industries, and the pivotal role of strategic planning in cloud adoption. Tune in for practical advice and expert insights!

About Anthony

Anthony Esper is a seasoned Chief Technology Officer with over two decades in technology consulting. His pioneering work includes developing self-showing real estate technology with Occupi Inc and leading over 20 AWS projects across major US corporations. Esper's expertise spans cloud computing, security, and big data, contributing to his reputation as a tech industry influencer.

Show highlights: 

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:07) - Backstory of the Golden VPC Module Creation
  • (05:13) - The Realities of Cloud Consulting
  • (09:52) - AWS Operational Challenges and Solutions
  • (19:30) - Significance of Strategic Cloud Adoption
  • (28:42) - Closing Remarks

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SmugMug's Cloud Adventure with Andrew Shieh08 Feb 202400:32:30

Andrew Shieh shares the thrilling story of SmugMug’s bold leap into AWS’s cloud technology, marking it as one of the pioneering companies to harness the cloud for digital photography storage. This episode offers a unique perspective into the type of strategy and groundbreaking tech advancements that catapulted SmugMug’s success. Listen to the full episode for a masterclass in innovation and adaptation!


Show highlights: 


(00:00) Corey introduces the show & Guest Andrew Shieh

(00:54)Andrew shares the story of how SmugMug became AWS's first enterprise customer. 

(02:17) Discussion on the evolution of AWS's customer service

(04:31) Reflections on the expansion of AWS services. 

(06:08) The critical role of Amazon S3 in SmugMug's operations

(12:24) AWS's interest in unique customer stories and feedback 

(09:32) SmugMug's cloud strategy and optimization

(13:50) Andrew discusses challenges and solutions in cloud adoption

(17:38) Andrew shares his experiences at AWS re:Invent, offering thoughts on the conference's evolution

(21:09) A look into AWS's pricing formulas and business insights 

(31:55) Closing thoughts

About Andrew

Andrew "shandrew" Shieh is a multidisciplinary engineer, focused today on making the AWS cloud do what it promises to. Andrew started as an environmental engineer, focused on energy efficiency and air pollution modeling, but quickly got dragged into tech after spending most of college at the help desk of the Unix computer cluster.

Andrew's current interests include sustainability, cost efficiency, and economics. Most AWS service teams are his friends and he enjoys (a bit too much) talking to his SmugMug and Flickr coworkers about AWS. He recently spoke at AWS re:Invent about how his children (9 and 11) helped to teach him the value of trivia as a means of learning backwards. He also wrote a keynote for re:Invent's pandemic year, and has rescued billions of precious photos from extinction.


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Exploring Advanced Cybersecurity with Michael Isbitski06 Feb 202400:35:31

Cybersecurity leader Mike Isbitski explores the intricacies of cloud-native security and vulnerability management in today's technological landscape. With over 25 years of experience, he provides valuable insights into the challenges and complexities organizations face in securing ephemeral infrastructure and machine identities in the cloud. This episode also explores the cautious adoption of AI in cybersecurity, emphasizing the need for a balanced approach that maintains operational functionality while addressing evolving security concerns.

Key Points with Timestamp

  • Security through Obscurity (00:00:00) - Mike discusses common security practices.
  • Cloud-Native Technology Explained (00:01:30) - Unpacking the meaning of cloud-native tech.
  • Evolving Vulnerability Management (00:03:38) - Insights on how vulnerability management has improved.
  • AI in Cybersecurity (00:21:20) - Discussion on the slow but growing adoption of AI in cybersecurity.
  • Challenges of Permissions and Identity (00:29:29) - The complexities of permissions in the cloud environment.
  • Future Trends in Cybersecurity (00:34:11) - Predictions for changes and advancements in the cybersecurity landscape.


About Michael

Michael Isbitski is a former Gartner analyst, cybersecurity leader, and practitioner with more than 25 years of experience, specializing in application, cloud, and container security. Michael learned many hard lessons on the front lines of IT working on application security, vulnerability management, enterprise architecture, and systems engineering. He's guided countless organizations globally in their security initiatives as they support their businesses.

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Empowering Economic Growth Through Tech Innovations with Angie Jones01 Feb 202400:37:41

Technology meets economic empowerment in this episode featuring Angie Jones, Global Vice President of Developer Relations at TBD, a Block division. Angie sheds light on the role of decentralized technologies in shaping the future of digital identity and cross-border payments. Her journey from software engineering to a leadership role in tech innovation illustrates her profound impact on the industry. This episode offers valuable insights into how technological advancements are driving economic growth and changing the financial landscape. Angie's expertise and unique perspective make this a must-listen for anyone interested in the cutting-edge intersection of technology, finance, and innovation.

About Angie

Angie Jones is the Global Vice President of Developer Relations for TBD, Block’s new business unit focused on decentralized technologies. She is an award-winning teacher and international keynote speaker who shares her wealth of knowledge at software companies and conferences all over the world.

As a Master Inventor, Angie is known for her innovative and out-of-the-box thinking style which has resulted in 27 patented inventions in the areas of metaverses, collaboration software, social networking, smarter planet, and software development processes.

Show notes:


(00:25)
Introduction to Angie Jones and Her Role at TBD

(01:25) Angie’s Recognition in a USA Today Crossword

(02:50) Career Journey and Transition into Developer Relations


(06:04)
Block’s Mission and Services in Economic Empowerment

(10:09) Convenience vs. Decentralization in Technology

(16:49) Innovations in Cross-Border Payments

(25:01) Decentralized Tech Stories and Reflections on Tech Innovation

(30:22) Challenging Tech Industry Norms and Global Perspectives

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Mastering Tech Transitions with Ceora Ford30 Jan 202400:32:50

Join us for a fascinating talk with Ceora Ford, a Developer Advocate at Okta, as she explores the changing world of tech. Ceora shares her unique journey through different tech roles and talks about the importance of keeping technical skills sharp, even when focusing on advocacy. She also gives us a sneak peek into the exciting AI developments happening at Okta. Tune in to this episode to get a better understanding of the fast-paced tech industry and what's coming next.

About Ceora

Ceora Ford is a Developer Advocate from Philadelphia, renowned for her expertise in making complex computer science concepts accessible to a broad audience. With a rich history of creating educational content, she has significantly contributed to the tech community, working with leading companies like CodeSandbox, DigitalOcean, egghead.io, and Apollo GraphQL. Ceora's career is marked by her unique ability to simplify technical topics, making them understandable for everyone, from students to professionals in tech-adjacent roles. Her non-traditional path into tech and her current role at Okta showcase her commitment to making the tech industry more inclusive and approachable for all. 

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Working to Live Instead of Living to Work with Jeremy Tanner25 Jan 202400:33:22

Jeremy Tanner joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss why his career in tech is the least interesting thing about himself, and why he feels everyone should be able to say the same thing. Corey and Jeremy discuss raising kids, their antics on motorcycles, and much more throughout this episode. Jeremy reveals what truly gives his life fulfillment, meaning, and what drives him in his career. Jeremy and Corey also discuss the importance of engaging your online audience the right way.

About Jeremy

Jeremy is a motorcyclist. An advocate (Developer, Community, BBQ). Not Questlove.


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How Snyk Gets Buy-In to Improve Security with Chen Gour Arie23 Jan 202400:28:15

Chen Gour Arie, Director of Engineering at Snyk, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss how his company, Enso Security, got acquired by Snyk and what drew him to Snyk’s mission as a partner. Chen expands on the challenges currently facing the security space, and shares what he feels are likely outcomes for challenges like improving compliance across value-add on security tools and the increasing scope of cybersecurity at such a relatively early phase of the industry’s development. Corey and Chen also discuss what makes Snyk so appealing to developers and why that was an important part of their growth strategy, as well as Chen’s take on recent security incidents that have hit the news. 

About Chen

Chen is the Co-founder of Enso Security (part of Snyk) - the world's 1st ASPM platform. With decades of hands-on experience in cybersecurity and software development, Chen has focused his career on building effective application security tools and practices.


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Transcript


Announcer: Hello, and welcome to Screaming in the Cloud with your host, Chief Cloud Economist at The Duckbill Group, Corey Quinn. This weekly show features conversations with people doing interesting work in the world of cloud, thoughtful commentary on the state of the technical world, and ridiculous titles for which Corey refuses to apologize. This is Screaming in the Cloud.



Corey: Welcome to Screaming in the Cloud. I’m Corey Quinn. This promoted guest episode is brought to us by our friends at Snyk, and as a part of that they have given me someone rather distinct as far as career paths and trajectories go. Chen Gour Arie is currently a director of engineering over at Snyk, but in a previous life—read as about six months or so ago—he was a co-founder of Enso Security, which got acquired. Chen, thank you for joining me.



Chen: Thank you for having me, Corey.



Corey: So, I guess an interesting place to begin is, what has the past couple of years been like? And let’s dive in with, what is or was Enso Security?



Chen: Yeah. So, Enso started for me first as friendship because I joined the team that I was working with as a contractor for a while. There was such an excellent and interesting team with a very interesting environment. And then after a while, they asked me to join that team, and then I became part of the security team of a company called Wix.com.



It’s quite a large company, web do-it-yourself kind of platform, that you can build your own website with a presentation style kind of interface, and our job was to secure that. And we formed a very, very nice friendship throughout it, but we also gained a lot of experience because you work with such a large company, and you experience many challenges, including real-time attempts to penetrate, and the complexity of social engineering at large scale. You go through a lot of things. So, this was the start. And after a couple of years, we decided that we have some interesting ideas that can do good to the community in the cybersecurity industry, and we embarked on a new journey together to start Enso.



Corey: I can see why you aligned with Snyk. It sounds like a lot of what you were aimed at is very much in step with how they tend to approach things. I have a number of sponsors that I can say this about, but Snyk is a particularly fun one, in that, obviously, you folks pay me to run advertisements and featured guest episodes like this, which is appreciated, but we also pay you as a customer of Snyk because it does a lot of things that we find both incredibly useful and incredibly valuable. The thread that I’ve seen running through everything coming out of Snyk has been this concept of, I think, what some folks would say shifting left, but it comes down to the idea of flagging issues as early in the process as possible rather than trying to get someone to remember what they did three months ago, and oh, yeah, go back and address that. That alone has made it one of the best approaches to things that are truly important—and yes, I consider security to be one of those things—that I’ve seen in a while on the dev tool space.



Chen: Yeah, and this has been the mission of Snyk for a very long time. And when we started Enso, our mission was to help in some additional elements of the same problem space in introducing additional tools to help drive this shift left, this democratization of the security effort around and in the organization, and resolving some of the friction that is created with the, kind of, confusing ownership of security and software development. So, this was kind of the mission of Enso. The category introduced by it and the ASPM category to bring the notion of postural security, postural management to applications. And it really is a huge fit with the journey of Snyk, and we were very excited to be approached by them to join their journey and help them do further shift left and extend on problem space on the complexity of this collaboration between security and developers.



Corey: A question I have around this is that it seems to me that viewing security posture management from an application perspective, and then viewing other parts of it from a cloud provider perspective and other parts of it from a variety of different things—you know, go to RSA and walk up and down the endless rows of booths, and you know, look at the 12 different things that they’re all selling because it’s all the same stuff around 12 categories or so, with different companies and logos and the rest—it feels like, on some level, that can lead very quickly to a fractured security posture where, well this is the app side of the security, and then we have the infrastructure security folks, but those groups don’t really collaborate because they’re separate and distinct. How do you square that circle?



Chen: Yeah, it’s not an easy problem, and I think that the North Star of many vendors exists this notion of sometimes I think we call it CNAP or something that will unify all of it. Cloud as a solution, and the offering that exists with cloud computing enables a lot of it, enables a lot of this unification, but we have to remember that the industry is young. The software security industry in general is young. If we will look at any other industry with that size, all of them have much more history and time to mature. And inside this industry, the security itself is even younger.



It has become a real problem much later than then when software started. It has become a huge problem when cloud emerged and became, like, the huge deal that it is now. And when more and more businesses are based on digital services, and more people are writing software, a lot of it is young, and it needs time to mature, and it’s time to get to—to accomplish some big parts like this unification that you are pointing out missing.



Corey: I have to confess my own bias here. A lot of the stuff that I build is very small-scale, leverages serverless technologies heavily, and even when I’m dealing with things like the CDK, where I start to have my application and the infrastructure that powers it coalesce into the same sort of thing, it becomes increasingly difficult, if not outright impossible for some of these config...

Continuing to Market After the Product Has Sold with Kim Harrison18 Jan 202400:32:33

Kim Harrison, a freelance content marketing strategist and author, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to talk about asking the right questions to find your target demographic, why she has such a deep love for story telling, and how marketing extends after the product has been sold. Kim shares her unique experiences with solving urgently painful problems that customers are experiencing and subsequently building a relationship with those customers that allows her to solve more pain points down the line. 


About Kim

Kim is a professional storyteller focused on strategic communications. She translates complex ideas into compelling narratives, helping teams share their perspectives. She enjoys building impactful stories, and using a range of mediums and channels to reach specific audiences.


For 10+ years Kim has worked closely with teams focused on big data and developer tooling. They have brought new methodologies forward, impacted the language used to describe technologies, and even established new industry categories.


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The Future of Entertaining Developer Content with Jason Lengstorf16 Jan 202400:33:41

Jason Lengstorf, a developer media producer and host of the show Learn with Jason, joins Corey on this week’s episode of Screaming in the Cloud to layout his ideas for creative developer content. Jason explains how devTV can have way more reach than webinars, the lack of inspiration he experiences at conferences these days, and why companies should be focused on hiring specialists before putting DevRels on the payroll. Plus, Corey and Jason discuss walking the line between claiming you’re good at everything and not painting yourself into a corner as a DevRel and marketer.


About Jason

Jason Lengstorf helps tech companies connect with developer communities through better media. He advocates for continued learning through collaboration and play and regularly live streams coding with experts on his show, Learn With Jason. He lives in Portland, Oregon.


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The Current State of Cloud Security with Crystal Morin18 Mar 202500:36:46

Sysdig’s 2025 Cloud-Native and Security Usage Report is hot off the presses, and Corey has questions. On this episode, he’s joined by Crystal Morin, a Cybersecurity Strategist at Sysdig, to break down the trends of the past year. They discuss Sysdig’s approach to detecting and responding to security and the success the company has seen with the rollout of Sysdig Sage (an AI product that Corey thinks is actually useful). They also chat about what’s driving a spike in machine identities, practical hygiene in cloud environments, and the crucial importance of automated responses to maintain robust security in the face of increasingly sophisticated cyber threats.



Show Highlights

(0:00) Intro

(0:39) Sysdig sponsor read

(2:22) Explaining Sysdig's 5/5/5 Benchmark

(4:06) What does Sysdig's work entail?

(10:03) Cloud security trends that have changed over the last year

(14:30) Sysdig sponsor read

(15:16) How Sysdig is using AI in its security products

(19:09) How many users are adopting AI tools like Sysdig Sage

(25:51) The reality behind the recent spike of machine identities in security

(29:24) Handling the scaling of machine identities

(35:37) Where you can find Sysdig's 2025 Cloud-Native and Security Usage Report



About Crystal Morin

Crystal Morin is a Cybersecurity Strategist with more than 10 years of experience in threat analysis and research. Crystal started her career as both a Cryptologic Language Analyst and Intelligence Analyst in the United States Air Force and as a contractor for Booz Allen Hamilton, where she helped develop and evolve their cyber threat intelligence community and threat-hunting capabilities. In 2022, Crystal joined Sysdig as a Threat Research Engineer on the Sysdig Threat Research Team, where she worked to discover and analyze cyber threat actors taking advantage of the cloud. Today, Crystal bridges the gap between business and security through cloud-focused content for leaders and practitioners alike. Crystal’s thought leadership has been foundational for pieces such as the “2024 Cloud-Native Security and Usage Report” and “Cloud vs. On-Premises: Unraveling the Mystery of the Dwell Time Disparity,” among others.



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Sponsor

Sysdig: https://sysdig.com/

Championing CDK While Accepting the Limits of AWS with Matthew Bonig11 Jan 202400:43:32

Matthew Bonig, Chief Cloud Architect at Defiance Digital, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss his experiences in CDK, why developers can’t be solely reliant on AI or coding tools to fill in the blanks, and his biggest grievances with AWS. Matthew gives an in-depth look at how and why CDK has been so influential for him, as well as the positive work that Defiance Digital is doing as a managed service provider. Corey and Matthew debate the need for AWS to focus on innovating instead of simply surviving off its existing customer base.


About Matthew

Chief Cloud Architect at Defiance Digital. AWS DevTools Hero, co-author of The CDK Book, author of the Advanced CDK Course. All things CDK and Star Trek.


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The Importance of the Platform-As-a-Product Mentality with Evelyn Osman09 Jan 202400:35:26

Evelyn Osman, Platform Engineering Manager at AutoScout24, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss the dire need for developers to agree on a standardized tool set in order to scale their projects and innovate quickly. Corey and Evelyn pick apart the new products being launched in cloud computing and discover a large disconnect between what the industry needs and what is actually being created. Evelyn shares her thoughts on why viewing platforms as products themselves forces developers to get into the minds of their users and produces a better end result.


About Evelyn

Evelyn is a recovering improviser currently role-playing as a Platform Engineering Manager at Autoscout24 in Munich, Germany. While she says she specializes in AWS architecture and integration after spending 11 years with it, in truth she spends her days convincing engineers that a product mindset will make them hate their product managers less.


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Benchmarking Security Attack Response Times in the Age of Automation with Anna Belak04 Jan 202400:31:11

Anna Belak, Director of the Office of Cybersecurity Strategy at Sysdig, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss the newest benchmark for responding to security threats, 5/5/5. Anna describes why it was necessary to set a new benchmark for responding to security threats in a timely manner, and how the Sysdig team did research to determine the best practices for detecting, correlating, and responding to potential attacks. Corey and Anna discuss the importance of focusing on improving your own benchmarks towards a goal, as well as how prevention and threat detection are both essential parts of a solid security program. 


About Anna

Anna has nearly ten years of experience researching and advising organizations on cloud adoption with a focus on security best practices. As a Gartner Analyst, Anna spent six years helping more than 500 enterprises with vulnerability management, security monitoring, and DevSecOps initiatives. Anna's research and talks have been used to transform organizations' IT strategies and her research agenda helped to shape markets. Anna is the Director of Thought Leadership at Sysdig, using her deep understanding of the security industry to help IT professionals succeed in their cloud-native journey. 

Anna holds a PhD in Materials Engineering from the University of Michigan, where she developed computational methods to study solar cells and rechargeable batteries.


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The Fundamentals of Building Mission-Driven Technology with Danilo Campos02 Jan 202400:33:07

Danilo Campos, Proprietor of Antigravity, joins @quinnypig on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss his philosophy behind building tools that not only enhance developer experience but also improve the future of our world. Danilo shares his thoughts on how economic factors have influenced tech companies and their strategies for product, open source, and more. He also shares what he thinks is another, better way to approach these strategies, without ignoring the economic element.


About Danilo

Danilo Campos wants a world where technology makes us more powerful and expressive versions of ourselves. He worked with GitHub and the White House to deliver coding platforms to public housing residents, supported Glitch.com in its last days as an independent, and developed products for multiple early-stage startups, including Hipmunk. Today Danilo offers freelance developer experience services for devtools firms through Antigravity DX.

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How Vercel is Improving the Developer Experience on the Front End with Guillermo Rauch21 Dec 202300:33:16

Guillermo Rauch, Founder and CEO of Vercel, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss how he decided to focus on building a front-end tool that is fast, reliable, and focuses on the developer experience. Guillermo explains how he discovered that Javascript was the language that set online offerings apart, and also reveals the advice he gives to founders on how to build an effective landing page. Corey and Guillermo discuss the effects of generative AI on developer experience, and Guillermo explains why Vercel had a higher standard for accuracy when rolling out their new AI product for developers, v0. 

About Guillermo

Guillermo Rauch is Founder and CEO of Vercel, where he leads the company’s mission to enable developers to create at the moment of inspiration. Prior to founding Vercel, Guillermo co-founded LearnBoost and Cloudup where he served the company as CTO through its acquisition by Automattic in 2013. Originally from Argentina,


Guillermo has been a developer since the age of ten and is passionate about contributing to the open source community. He has created a number of JavaScript projects including socket.io, Mongoose.js, Now, and Next.js.


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How Tailscale Builds for Users of All Tiers with Maya Kaczorowski19 Dec 202300:33:45

Maya Kaczorowski, Chief Product Officer at Tailscale, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss what sets the Tailscale product approach apart, for users of their free tier all the way to enterprise. Maya shares insight on how she evaluates feature requests, and how Tailscale’s unique architecture sets them apart from competitors. Maya and Corey discuss the importance of transparency when building trust in security, as well as Tailscale’s approach to new feature roll-outs and change management.

About Maya

Maya is the Chief Product Officer at Tailscale, providing secure networking for the long tail. She was mostly recently at GitHub in software supply chain security, and previously at Google working on container security, encryption at rest and encryption key management. Prior to Google, she was an Engagement Manager at McKinsey & Company, working in IT security for large enterprises.


Maya completed her Master's in mathematics focusing on cryptography and game theory. She is bilingual in English and French.

Outside of work, Maya is passionate about ice cream, puzzling, running, and reading nonfiction.


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Using DevOps to Ignite a Chain Reaction of Productivity and Happiness with Dave Mangot14 Dec 202300:34:03

Dave Mangot, CEO and founder of Mangoteque, joins Coreyon Screaming in the Cloud to explain how leveraging DevOps improves the lives of engineers and results in stronger businesses. Dave talks about the importance of exclusively working for private equity firms that act ethically, the key difference between venture capital and private equity, and how conveying issues and ideas to your CEO using language he understands leads to faster results. Corey and Dave discuss why successful business are built on two things: infrastructure as code and monitoring.


About Dave

Dave Mangot, author of DevOps Patterns for Private Equity, helps portfolio companies get good at delivering software.  He is a leading consultant, author, and speaker as the principal at Mangoteque.  A DevOps veteran, Dave has successfully led digital, SRE, and DevOps transformations at companies such as Salesforce, SolarWinds, and Cable & Wireless. He has a proven track record of working with companies to quickly mature their existing culture to improve the speed, frequency, and resilience of their software service delivery.

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Using SRE to Solve the Obvious Problems with Laura Nolan12 Dec 202300:29:46

Laura Nolan, Principal Software Engineer at Stanza, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to offer insights on how to use SRE to avoid disastrous and lengthy production delays. Laura gives a rich history of her work with SREcon, why her approach to SRE is about first identifying the biggest fire instead of toiling with day-to-day issues, and why the lack of transparency in systems today actually hurts new engineers entering the space. Plus, Laura explains to Corey why she dedicates time to work against companies like Google who are building systems to help the government (inefficiently) select targets during wars and conflicts.


About Laura

Laura Nolan is a software engineer and SRE. She has contributed to several books on SRE, such as the Site Reliability Engineering book, Seeking SRE, and 97 Things Every SRE Should Know. Laura is a Principal Engineer at Stanza, where she is building software to help humans understand and control their production systems. Laura also serves as a member of the USENIX Association board of directors. In her copious spare time after that, she volunteers for the Campaign to Stop Killer Robots, and is half-way through the MSc in Human Factors and Systems Safety at Lund University. She lives in rural Ireland in a small village full of medieval ruins.

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Terraform and The Art of Teaching Tech with Ned Bellavance07 Dec 202300:35:02

Ned Bellavance worked in the world of tech for more than a decade before joining the family profession as an educator. He joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss his shift from engineer to educator and content creator, the intricacies of Terraform, and how changes in licensing affect the ecosystem.

About Ned

Ned is an IT professional with more than 20 years of experience in the field. He has been a helpdesk operator, systems administrator, cloud architect, and product manager. In 2019, Ned founded Ned in the Cloud LLC to work as an independent educator, creator, and consultant. In this new role, he develops courses for Pluralsight, runs multiple podcasts, writes books, and creates original content for technology vendors.

Ned is a Microsoft MVP since 2017 and a HashiCorp Ambassador since 2020.

Ned has three guiding principles: embrace discomfort, fail often, and be kind.


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Creating Value in Incident Management with Robert Ross05 Dec 202300:35:09

Robert Ross, CEO and Co-Founder at FireHydrant, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss how being an on-call engineer fighting incidents inspired him to start his own company. Robert explains how FireHydrant does more than just notify engineers of an incident, but also helps them to be able to effectively put out the fire. Robert tells the story of how he “accidentally” started a company as a result of a particularly critical late-night incident, and why his end goal at FireHydrant has been and will continue to be solving the problem, not simply choosing an exit strategy. Corey and Robert also discuss the value and pricing models of other incident-reporting solutions and Robert shares why he feels surprised that nobody else has taken the same approach FireHydrant has. 

About Robert

Robert Ross is a recovering on-call engineer, and the CEO and co-founder at FireHydrant. As the co-founder of FireHydrant, Robert plays a central role in optimizing incident response and ensuring software system reliability for customers. Prior to founding FireHydrant, Robert previously contributed his expertise to renowned companies like Namely and Digital Ocean. 

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The Difference Between Marketing and BS with Jonathan Cowperthwait11 Mar 202500:32:00

What’s the difference between marketing and BS? On this episode, Corey Quinn is joined by Jonathan Cowperthwait, Duckbill’s brand-new Head of Marketing. Jonathan's career path is a bit unconventional. After all, not everyone can say their professional journey was influenced by The West Wing. Even though he’s a marketer by trade, Jonathan still has the technical know-how needed to work in the often expensive world of cloud economics. Have you ever wanted to know what The Duckbill Group’s relationship with AWS is really like? How fun is it to sit on domains like “oldmanstartup?” Is there a similarity between clouds and butts? This interview is the inside scoop on The Duckbill Group that you never knew you needed. 


Show Highlights

(0:00) Intro

(1:11) Duckbill Group sponsor read

(1:45) Acquiring the Duckbill Group office post-pandemic

(2:52) Keeping your pants on during a pandemic so you can officiate your nanny's wedding

(6:07) Jonathan's background prior to joining The Duckbill Group

(11:29) What Duckbill was looking for when they hired Jonathan

(14:54) When marketing begins to feel like spam

(15:40) The fun of having disposable domains and email addresses

(18:20) The importance of a good name for a product

(19:38) Duckbill Group sponsor read

(20:07) The Duckbill Group isn't just Corey Quinn

(21:03) The "Cloud to Butt" extension

(24:01) Corey's beef with Google's AI search engine

(24:57) What can people expect from the Duckbill Group's new marketing effort

(30:58) Where you can find more from Jonathan



About Jonathan Cowperthwait

Jonathan Cowperthwait does positioning, messaging, and go-to-market strategy to maximize awareness and revenue for technology brands of all sizes.



He prides himself on being a slow runner, fast talker, and good writer.



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The Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com 

How MongoDB is Paving The Way for Frictionless Innovation with Peder Ulander30 Nov 202300:36:08

Peder Ulander, Chief Marketing & Strategy Officer at MongoDB, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss how MongoDB is paving the way for innovation. Corey and Peder discuss how Peder made the decision to go from working at Amazon to MongoDB, and Peder explains how MongoDB is seeking to differentiate itself by making it easier for developers to innovate without friction. Peder also describes why he feels databases are more ubiquitous than people realize, and what it truly takes to win the hearts and minds of developers.


About Peder

Peder Ulander, the maestro of marketing mayhem at MongoDB, juggles strategies like a tech wizard on caffeine. As the Chief Marketing & Strategy Officer, he battles buzzwords, slays jargon dragons, and tends to developers with a wink. From pioneering Amazon's cloud heyday as Director of Enterprise and Developer Solutions Marketing to leading the brand behind cloud.com's insurgency, Peder's built a legacy as the swashbuckler of software, leaving a trail of market disruptions one vibrant outfit at a time. Peder is the Scarlett Johansson of tech marketing — always looking forward, always picking the edgy roles that drive what's next in technology.

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Taking a Hybrid AI Approach to Security at Snyk with Randall Degges29 Nov 202300:35:57

Randall Degges, Head of Developer Relations & Community at Snyk, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss Snyk’s innovative AI strategy and why developers don’t need to be afraid of security. Randall explains the difference between Large Language Models and Symbolic AI, and how combining those two approaches creates more accurate security tooling. Corey and Randall also discuss the FUD phenomenon to selling security tools, and Randall expands on why Snyk doesn’t take that approach. Randall also shares some background on how he went from being a happy Snyk user to a full-time Snyk employee.


About Randall

Randall runs Developer Relations & Community at Snyk, where he works on security research, development, and education. In his spare time, Randall writes articles and gives talks advocating for security best practices. Randall also builds and contributes to various open-source security tools.

Randall's realms of expertise include Python, JavaScript, and Go development, web security, cryptography, and infrastructure security. Randall has been writing software for over 20 years and has built a number of popular API services and open-source tools.

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Chronosphere on Crafting a Cloud-Native Observability Strategy with Rachel Dines28 Nov 202300:29:41

Rachel Dines, Head of Product and Technical Marketing at Chronosphere, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss why creating a cloud-native observability strategy is so critical, and the challenges that come with both defining and accomplishing that strategy to fit your current and future observability needs. Rachel explains how Chronosphere is taking an open-source approach to observability, and why it’s more important than ever to acknowledge that the stakes and costs are much higher when it comes to observability in the cloud.


About Rachel

Rachel leads product and technical marketing for Chronosphere. Previously, Rachel wore lots of marketing hats at CloudHealth (acquired by VMware), and before that, she led product marketing for cloud-integrated storage at NetApp. She also spent many years as an analyst at Forrester Research. Outside of work, Rachel tries to keep up with her young son and hyper-active dog, and when she has time, enjoys crafting and eating out at local restaurants in Boston where she’s based.

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Use Cases for Couchbase’s New Columnar Data Stores with Jeff Morris27 Nov 202300:30:22

Jeff Morris, VP of Product & Solutions Marketing at Couchbase, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss Couchbase’s new columnar data store functionality, specific use cases for columnar data stores, and why AI gets better when it communicates with a cleaner pool of data. Jeff shares how more responsive databases could allow businesses like Dominos and United Airlines to create hyper-personalized experiences for their customers by utilizing more responsive databases. Jeff dives into the linked future of AI and data, and Corey learns about Couchbase’s plans for the re:Invent conference. If you’re attending re:Invent, you can visit Couchbase at booth 1095.

About Jeff

Jeff Morris is VP Product & Solutions Marketing at Couchbase (NASDAQ: BASE), a cloud database platform company that 30% of the Fortune 100 depend on.


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Couchbase: https://www.couchbase.com/



The Man Behind the Cloud Curtain with Jeremy Tangren21 Nov 202300:28:55

Jeremy Tangren, Director of Media Operations at The Duckbill Group, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss how he went from being a Project Manager in IT to running Media Operations at a cloud costs consultancy. Jeremy provides insight into how his background as a Project Manager has helped him tackle everything that’s necessary in a media production environment, as well as what it was like to shift from a career on the IT side to working at a company that is purely cloud-focused. Corey and Jeremy also discuss the coordination of large events like re:Invent, and what attendance is really like when you’re producing the highlight reels that other people get to watch from the comfort of their own homes. 

About Jeremy

With over 15 years of experience in big tech, Jeremy brings a unique perspective to The Duckbill Group and its Media Team. Jeremy handles all things Media Operations. From organizing the team and projects to making sure publications go out on time, Jeremy does a bit of everything!

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An Open-Source Mindset in Cloud Security with Alex Lawrence16 Nov 202300:32:50

Alex Lawrence, Field CISO at Sysdig, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss how he went from studying bioluminescence and mycology to working in tech, and his stance on why open source is the future of cloud security. Alex draws an interesting parallel between the creative culture at companies like Pixar and the iterative and collaborative culture of open-source software development, and explains why iteration speed is crucial in cloud security. Corey and Alex also discuss the pros and cons of having so many specialized tools that tackle specific functions in cloud security, and the different postures companies take towards their cloud security practices. 

About Alex


Alex Lawrence is a Field CISO at Sysdig. Alex has an extensive history working in the datacenter as well as with the world of DevOps. Prior to moving into a solutions role, Alex spent a majority of his time working in the world of OSS on identity, authentication, user management and security. Alex's educational background has nothing to do with his day-to-day career; however, if you'd like to have a spirited conversation on bioluminescence or fungus, he'd be happy to oblige.

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How Couchbase is Using AI to Enhance the User Experience with Laurent Doguin14 Nov 202300:31:52

Laurent Doguin, Director of Developer Relations & Strategy at Couchbase, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to talk about the work that Couchbase is doing in the world of databases and developer relations, as well as the role of AI in their industry and beyond. Together, Corey and Laurent discuss Laurent’s many different roles throughout his career including what made him want to come back to a role at Couchbase after stepping away for 5 years. Corey and Laurent dig deep on how Couchbase has grown in recent years and how it’s using artificial intelligence to offer an even better experience to the end user.

About Laurent

Laurent Doguin is Director of Developer Relations & Strategy at Couchbase (NASDAQ: BASE), a cloud database platform company that 30% of the Fortune 100 depend on.


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Building a Strong Company Culture at Honeycomb with Mike Goldsmith09 Nov 202300:32:31

Mike Goldsmith, Staff Software Engineer at Honeycomb, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to talk about Open Telemetry, company culture, and the pros and cons of Go vs. .NET. Corey and Mike discuss why OTel is such an important tool, while pointing out its double-edged sword of being fully open-source and community-driven. Opening up about Honeycomb’s company culture and how to find a work-life balance as a fully-remote employee, Mike points out how core-values and social interaction breathe life into a company like Honeycomb.

About Mike

Mike is an OpenSource focused software engineer that builds tools to help users create, shape and deliver system & application telemetry. Mike contributes to a number of OpenTelemetry initiatives including being a maintainer for Go Auto instrumentation agent, Go proto packages and an emeritus .NET SDK maintainer..

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Learnings From A Lifelong Career in Open-Source with Amir Szekely07 Nov 202300:38:47

Amir Szekely, Owner at CloudSnorkel, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss how he got his start in the early days of cloud and his solo project, CloudSnorkel. Throughout this conversation, Corey and Amir discuss the importance of being pragmatic when moving to the cloud, and the different approaches they see in developers from the early days of cloud to now. Amir shares what motivates him to develop open-source projects, and why he finds fulfillment in fixing bugs and operating CloudSnorkel as a one-man show. 

About Amir

Amir Szekely is a cloud consultant specializing in deployment automation, AWS CDK, CloudFormation, and CI/CD. His background includes security, virtualization, and Windows development. Amir enjoys creating open-source projects like cdk-github-runners, cdk-turbo-layers, and NSIS.


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How Tech Will Influence the Future of Podcasting with Chris Hill31 Oct 202300:34:35

Chris Hill, owner of HumblePod and host of the We Built This Brand podcast, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss the future of podcasting and the role emerging technologies will play in the podcasting space. Chris describes why AI is struggling to make a big impact in the world of podcasting, and also emphasizes the importance of authenticity and finding a niche when producing a show. Corey and Chris discuss where video podcasting works and where it doesn’t, and why it’s more important to focus on the content of your podcast than the technical specs of your gear. Chris also shares insight on how to gauge the health of your podcast audience with his Podcast Listener Lifecycle evaluation tool.


About Chris

Chris Hill is a Knoxville, TN native and owner of the podcast production company, HumblePod. He helps his customers create, develop, and produce podcasts and is working with clients in Knoxville as well as startups and entrepreneurs across the United States, Silicon Valley, and the world.

In addition to producing podcasts for nationally-recognized thought leaders, Chris is the co-host and producer of the award-winning Our Humble Beer Podcast and the host of the newly-launched We Built This Brand podcast. He also lectures at the University of Tennessee, where he leads non-credit courses on podcasts and marketing.  He received his undergraduate degree in business at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga where he majored in Marketing & Entrepreneurship, and he later received his MBA from King University.

Chris currently serves his community as the President of the American Marketing Association in Knoxville. In his spare time, he enjoys hanging out with the local craft beer community, international travel, exploring the great outdoors, and his many creative pursuits.

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Kicking Off a Tech Career as a Preteen with Alex Zenla04 Mar 202500:30:55

What were you doing at the age of 12? We’d wager to bet you weren’t getting invited to Google I/O. On this episode, Corey chats with Alex Zenla, the founder and CTO of Edera. Only in her mid-20s, Alex already has more than a decade’s worth of professional experience working in the tech industry. They discuss how Alex found her way into programming at a young age, her experiences with open source projects like the Dart Project and Chromium OS, and getting contacted by Google’s lawyers as a preteen. You’ll also get to learn about Alex’s company, Edera, and their creative approaches to Kubernetes container security using Xen hypervisors. Did we forget to mention that there are multiple sidebars about Minecraft in this one? So grab your pick axe, put on your headphones, and a Google legal will be at your door by the time we wrap up this conversation.



Show Highlights

(0:00) Intro

(0:54) The Duckbill Group sponsor read

(1:28) What is Edera?

(2:18) Who is the target customer for Edera's product

(7:50) Breaking down the overhead makeup of Edera

(10:28) How Edera sidesteps the problems with container isolation

(13:20) Alex's history working with tech

(15:40) The Duckbill Group sponsor read

(16:23) How a phone call with a lawyer helped get Alex to Google I/O at the age of 12

(18:55) Starting Alex's proper tech career thanks to a Dart library

(21:24) The important role of Minecraft in Alex's life and career

(23:40) The value of good networking 

(28:15) What it's been like for Alex to raise a Series A

(29:56) Where you can find more from Alex



About Alex Zenla

Alex Zenla is a technologist that has 10+ years experience in the full-time corporate world who is rebuilding the foundations of infrastructure to be secure-by-design.


Alex grew an interest in computers at the age of 7, learning about hypervisors and hardware technologies. At the age of 11, she was inspired by the concept of Chrome OS to get involved in low level systems, where she contributed to the Chromium and Chromium OS projects. This led to being invited to Google I/O 2012 by the Chrome OS team at just the age of 12. Eventually, the Dart programming language came along, and Alex got deeply involved in the ecosystem, contributing to the language and standard library, and building core open source technologies. At the age of 14, she was hired by an IoT company called DGLogik to build an IoT platform that could scale across complex networks, launching my career in IoT. At DGLogik, Alex became deeply involved in Google's IoT technologies across multiple divisions, ultimately ending up working at Google on their IoT platform for their internal Real Estate. In 2024, she retired from the IoT data sphere and started Edera, a company that is making computing secure-by-design.



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The Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com 

Solving the Case of the Infinite Cloud Spend with John Wynkoop24 Oct 202300:29:56

John Wynkoop, Cloud Economist & Platypus Herder at The Duckbill Group, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss why he decided to make a career move and become an AWS billing consultant. Corey and John discuss how once you’re deeply familiar with one cloud provider, those skills become transferable to other cloud providers as well. John also shares the trends he has seen post-pandemic in the world of cloud, including the increased adoption of a multi-cloud strategy and the need for costs control even for VC-funded start-ups.


About John

With over 25 years in IT, John’s done almost every job in the industry, from running cable and answering helpdesk calls to leading engineering teams and advising the C-suite. Before joining The Duckbill Group, he worked across multiple industries including private sector, higher education, and national defense. Most recently he helped IGNW, an industry leading systems integration partner, get acquired by industry powerhouse CDW. When he’s not helping customers spend smarter on their cloud bill, you can find him enjoying time with his family in the beautiful Smoky Mountains near his home in Knoxville, TN.


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Making an Affordable Event Data Solution with Seif Lotfy19 Oct 202300:27:49

Seif Lotfy, Co-Founder and CTO at Axiom, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss how and why Axiom has taken a low-cost approach to event data. Seif describes the events that led to him helping co-found a company, and explains why the team wrote all their code from scratch. Corey and Seif discuss their views on AWS pricing, and Seif shares his views on why AWS doesn’t have to compete on price. Seif also reveals some of the exciting new products and features that Axiom is currently working on. 

About Seif

Seif is the bubbly Co-founder and CTO of Axiom where he has helped build the next generation of logging, tracing, and metrics. His background is at Xamarin, and Deutche Telekom and he is the kind of deep technical nerd that geeks out on white papers about emerging technology and then goes to see what he can build.

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Keeping Workflows Secure in an Ever-Changing Environment with Adnan Khan17 Oct 202300:34:42

Adnan Khan, Lead Security Engineer at Praetorian, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss software bill of materials and supply chain attacks. Adnan describes how simple pull requests can lead to major security breaches, and how to best avoid those vulnerabilities. Adnan and Corey also discuss the rapid innovation at Github Actions, and the pros and cons of having new features added so quickly when it comes to security. Adnan also discusses his view on the state of AI and its impact on cloud security.


About Adnan

Adnan is a Lead Security Engineer at Praetorian. He is responsible for executing on Red-Team Engagements as well as developing novel attack tooling in order to meet and exceed engagement objectives and provide maximum value for clients.

His past experience as a software engineer gives him a deep understanding of where developers are likely to make mistakes, and has applied this knowledge to become an expert in attacks on organization’s CI/CD systems.

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