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The B2B Brand Playbook: Lessons From Paddle's Journey to Becoming a $1.4Bn Unicorn11 Sep 202400:40:48

We’re back with Scratch after the long summer break! For our first episode after the break, we’re thrilled to sit down with Andrew Davies, the CMO of Paddle, a leading payment infrastructure provider designed specifically for SaaS companies. Paddle takes care of the tricky stuff—payments, taxes, subscriptions—essentially all the payment logistics, so businesses can focus on what really matters: growth. In our conversation, Andrew dives deep into the art of building a brand-led B2B business and tells us why long-term brand investment is key to true marketing efficiency. 

One of the key takeaways from this episode is Andrew’s insight on how B2B marketers can learn from B2C and lifestyle brands by focusing on people, not just businesses. We also discuss the challenges in educating boards and CEOs about modern marketing approaches, the importance of long-term brand investment, and the evolving role of CMOs as commercial operators. Another recurring theme from this episode (something that we’ve heard quite a few times now) is the importance of understanding the broader business ecosystem and speaking the language of top business leaders. We also touch on overlooked growth opportunities, the evolving role of CMOs, and how critical it is to align your team on messaging and the overall brand story. If you work for or own a B2B brand, then this episode is for you!

Watch the video version of this podcast on Youtube ▶️: https://youtu.be/Jv422AbPnP4

          📚 Chapters:

  • (00:00:00) - Intro 🎙️
  • (00:03:40) - Andrew’s favorite challenger brand 🏆
  • (00:05:10) - What is Paddle? 
  • (00:07:30) - Why does no one care about demand gen? 🤔
  • (00:10:45) - Brand focused data-points 📊
  • (00:19:00) - Building a community of raving fans 🎉
  • (00:25:31) - Under-considered opportunities to grow 🌱
  • (00:37:00) - Lightning Round ⚡

🖊️Mentioned in the show:

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and he’s joined by Andrew Davies of Paddle in this episode.

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Andrew on LinkedIn.

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How Hyrox is Becoming the Fastest-Growing Sport in a $6.73Bn Market26 Jun 202400:46:51

We're joined by the Co-founder of Hyrox in this episode, Moritz Fuerste. Hyrox is a global fitness race that combines running with functional exercises. Hyrox is experiencing explosive growth in cities worldwide, with participation skyrocketing to over 210,000 athletes across 30 cities in the 2023/24 season and events selling out rapidly. Their origin story stemmed from identifying a gap in the fitness market for a measurable, repeatable sport that is accessible to everyone. Moritz discussed the model his team has used for a community-driven growth strategy that focuses on organic social media and partnerships with local gyms. This approach has allowed Hyrox to educate potential customers about their new product while creating a mutually beneficial relationship with fitness centers.

We break down Hyrox's unique marketing playbook, which focuses on event-centric promotion and word-of-mouth marketing over paid digital advertising. Moritz explains how their long purchase cycle is similar to buying a car, and how this has influenced their marketing approach. He also touches on the challenges of balancing mass participation with elite competition in their messaging & comms. As Hyrox continues to grow, they're now focusing on maximizing reach through live streaming of major events, seeing this as a key channel for media exposure. Throughout the episode, Moritz emphasizes the importance of adapting messaging, trying new things, and being willing to make mistakes in building a successful challenger brand.

Watch the video version of this podcast on Youtube ▶️: https://youtu.be/m8FSZUGMUP4

          📚 Chapters:

  • (00:00:00) - Intro
  • (00:03:45)- Favourite Challenger Brand - Automotive Industry 🚗
  • (00:07:00) - What is Hyrox? 🏃
  • (00:11:50) - Hyrox’s Point-of-difference
  • (00:21:00) - Why Hyrox has never invested in digital marketing
  • (00:24:00) - What actually worked for Hyrox’s growth
  • (00:41:00) Lightning Round ⚡

🖊️Mentioned in the show:

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and he’s joined by Moritz Fuerste of Hyrox in this episode.

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Find Moritz on LinkedIn.

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How Who Gives A Crap Disrupted The $31bn Toilet Paper Industry21 Feb 202400:45:21

In this episode of Scratch, the Chief Brand Officer of Who Gives A Crap 🧻, Ronalee Zarate-Bayani, joins us to share how they've turned their unique brand identity and commitment to purpose into their superpower. You’ve probably seen Who Gives a Crap, you know, the colourful wrapped toilet rolls that decorate your cool friend's toilet? Well, you’ll be surprised to hear that Who Gives a Crap is leading the charge when it comes to disrupting and dominating the $31bn toilet paper segment. In this episode, Ronalee talks about the importance of understanding what makes your brand special and using that to stand out instead of focusing too much on the competition. She explains Who Gives A Crap’s business model of donating 60% of their profits to eco-friendly causes and how they navigate the challenges of balancing profit with purpose. She also tells us about the benefits of being a smaller, agile company that can quickly adapt and test new ideas in the market.

In the second half, she emphasizes the significance of not just winning customers, but turning them into advocates for the brand 🔈. We learned from her how it's okay for some marketing initiatives to fail, as these are opportunities for learning and growth. She demonstrates how embracing the company's unique strengths and values fosters creativity and innovation through examples. Additionally, she discusses how to strengthen the marketing function by being deliberate about distinguishing short-term from long-term revenues and plans. This episode provides valuable insights into building a profit-first yet purpose-driven brand ♻️.

Watch the video version of this podcast on YouTube 📺: https://youtu.be/UIaMkxgsOCc

🖊️Mentioned in the show: 

📕 Chapters:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:03:50) - Favorite Challenger Brand 😊

(00:07:40) - What is Who Gives A Crap? 🚽

(00:09:40) - What is the difference between a Chief Brand Officer and Chief Marketing Officer?

(00:11:00) - Rules & Principles to Build a Profit-First Brand (Who Gives A Crap’s Edition) 💼

(00:16:20) - Leading with a Proposition that Customers Care About 💡

(00:20:30) - How do you Balance Messaging & Comms? 📣

(00:33:04) - How Constraints Drive Creativity for Who Gives a Crap 🤔

(00:35:52) - How does Marketing Drive Product Innovation? 🚀

(00:40:10) - Biggest Win Recently 🏆

(00:40:35) - Recent Struggle

(00:41:46) - The Best Marketing Resource 📚

(00:42:51) - Biggest Lesson You’ve Learnt in Your Career 🎓

(00:43:50) - One Thing People Should Do Differently ✨

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and he’s joined by Ronalee Zarate-Bayani of Who Gives A Crap in this episode. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Ronalee on LinkedIn.

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericfulwiler/

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

Fuelling the Future: Unleashing the New Age of NASCAR Fandom07 Feb 202400:46:47

NASCAR, a titan in the sports industry, is known for its rich history and thrilling races. Peter shares insights into how NASCAR continues to innovate and remain relevant in a rapidly evolving entertainment landscape. 🚗💨🎙️In this episode of Scratch, the CMO of NASCAR, Peter Jung joins us to dive deep into the world of sports marketing, brand evolution, and the key initiatives propelling NASCAR into the future. 🏁🌟

He discusses the importance of category disruption, the impact of viral marketing campaigns, and the strategic focus on diversity and inclusion to broaden NASCAR's fan base. He highlights the role of digital platforms and content creation in engaging new audiences, including a partnership with Netflix for the upcoming show "Full Speed," aimed at giving fans a behind-the-scenes look at the sport. He also touches on the challenges and opportunities in sports marketing, the evolution of NASCAR's strategies, and the significance of building a strong community around the sport. 🧑‍🤝‍🧑❤

Watch the video version of this podcast on YouTube 📺

🖊️ Mentioned in the show:

📕 Chapters:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:04:00)  - Favorite Challenger Brand? 🥊

(00:11:00) - The NASCAR Brand and Business 🏢

(00:18:01) - The Changing Nature of the Sports Category 🏑

(00:22:20) - Approach and Priorities as the CMO of NASCAR

(00:26:30 ) - Approach to New and Emerging Channels 📈

(00:32:00) - In-house and External Structure for NASCAR

(00:35:10) - Exciting Developments for NASCAR - Full Speed 🚗

(00:42:35 ) -  Lightning Round ⚡

(00:42:40) - First Marketing Job you ever had 💼

(00:42:55) - The Best Piece of career advice 🌟

(00:43:39) - Best Brand Campaign 

(00:44:20) - Best Marketing Tool 🛠️

(00:44:50) - One thing people should do differently 🔄

(00:45:20) - Favourite moment from  NASCAR’s Netflix show

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and he’s joined by Peter Jung of NASCAR in this episode. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Peter Jung on LinkedIn 

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

Calendly’s CMO - Marketing a $3 Billion SAAS product like a Pro24 Jan 202400:45:04

🎙️In this episode of Scratch, the CMO of Calendly, Jessica Gilmartin joins us to discuss the evolution of their brand and their approach to building total customer-centricity.🌟📊 We’ve all used Calendly at some point in our work lives. For the uninitiated, Calendly is known worldwide for revolutionising the way we schedule meetings. It is more than just a tool—it's a comprehensive solution shaping the future of business interactions. In our discussion, Jessica tells us how Calendly continues to stand out in a competitive market. 🗓️💡 She shares her favourite marketing mantra: “Understanding your competitors is crucial, but it's the obsession with customer needs and experiences that truly drives business growth”.

She discusses the significance of integrating customer insights into every aspect of business operations, from product development to the messaging in marketing strategies. Understanding market dynamics and a strong partnership with the leadership team forms the core of Jesicca’s marketing approach. The discussion between Eric and Jessica also talks about how Calendly harnesses creativity within its marketing team, continually reinventing its approaches to maintain a strong connection with its customers. 🧑‍🤝‍🧑❤️🔍 Jessica also walks us through building Calendly's distinct market positioning, revealing how iterative testing and feedback (which are especially crucial in long B2B sales cycles) are key to refining their marketing strategies. 🤖🆕🚀If you’re in product/tech marketing, you’ll surely enjoy this episode.

🖊️ Mentioned in the show: 

Watch the video version of this podcast on YouTube 📺: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLajBNfOMgl2EYo1K29XNIoEMwqapDlQTS&feature=shared

📕 Chapters:

(00:04:30) - Favorite Challenger Brand 😊

(00:14:20) - How did the positioning develop for Calendly? 💡

(00:17:00) - How does Calendly understand its customers’ needs? 🤔

(00:21:27) - What are the different disciplines of Marketing that sit within Calendly? 📚

(00:23:00) - Being Idea-led v/s data-driven - Calendly’s take 💭

(00:27:30) - Tracking Results 📊

(00:29:20) - Creative destruction 💥

(00:36:20) - The next exciting thing for Calendly 🚀

(00:41:20) - Lightning Round ⚡

(00:41:56) - First Marketing Job you ever had 💼

(00:42:24) - The Best Piece of career advice 🌟

(00:42:48) - Best Brand Campaign - Burger King 🍔

(00:43:30) - Best Marketing Tool 🛠️

(00:44:00) - One thing people should do differently 🔄

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and he’s joined by Jessica Gilmartin of Calendly in this episode

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Jessica on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicagilmartin/

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericfulwiler/

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

David vs Goliath - DuckDuckGo’s Marketing Strategies to Take on Google10 Jan 202400:47:33

🎙️In this week's episode of Scratch, the VP of Marketing at DuckDuckGo - Cristina Stanley, joins us for an enlightening discussion on the strategies that have helped DuckDuckGo take on industry giants like Google Chrome & Safari. DuckDuckGo is an independent alternative to Google that prioritizes online privacy and does not spy on their customers. Cristina’s transition from CPG to tech offers a unique perspective on marketing's role in driving growth and innovation. Being a challenger brand, DuckDuckgo has had over 71 Billion searches since its inception, and it’s continuing to grow. She walks us through her process of scaling a brand from product-market fit to market dominance. She explains how marketing is not just a cost centre but has the potential to be a significant growth driver, especially in a landscape as dynamic as tech.

🔍 Being completely privacy-focused, she discusses attribution from non-digital channels and the importance of finding innovative methods to test the effectiveness of your campaigns.  This episode is packed with insights for both marketers and privacy advocates. Through her experiences, we gain a deeper understanding of advocating for online privacy, challenging established tech giants, and creatively engaging with audiences while adhering to strict privacy standards. Tune in to get some valuable insights and join the conversation on the evolving landscape of ethical privacy practices in marketing in this brilliant episode. 

Watch the video version of this episode on Youtube ⏯️:

📑Chapters:

(00:04:03) - Favorite challenger brand

(00:14:00) - Why Marketing isn’t an afterthought in tech

(00:21:00) - How did Duck Duck Go approach marketing while keeping privacy at its core?

(00:29:00) - How Duck Duck Go plays on a level playing field

(00:40:00) - The creative side of marketing for Duck Duck Go

(00:42:46) - Lightning Round ⚡

(00:42:50) - First Marketing Job you ever had

(00:43:02) - The Best Piece of career advice

(00:43:56) - Best Brand Campaign - Walmart

(00:45:20) - Best Marketing Tool

🖊️ Mentioned in the show:

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and he’s joined by Cristina Stanley of DuckDuckGo in this episode. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube.

Find Cristina on LinkedIn.

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

The 10 Biggest Marketing Lessons From 100+ Leading CMOs | Scratch by Rival13 Dec 202302:31:53

As marketers, we all want to know what truly drives the growth of challenger brands. We all want to see massive user growth, successful campaigns, and ultimately, we want marketing to have an impact. So why are these so hard to achieve? 

In this fast-paced, ever-evolving world of marketing, the volume of information can be overwhelming at times and obsolete at others. It’s a daunting and steep learning curve for marketers who are on a mission to change their categories or their entire industries. 

In this week’s episode, we take a deep dive into how to market like the best brands in the world and truly set yourself apart as a challenger brand. Distilling the knowledge of 65 episodes of Scratch and 100s of conversations we’ve had with the best CMOs in the world from PepsiCo to P&G, Beavertown to Bloom & Wild, we decode the 10 core principles of how to market like the best challenger brands in the world. 

You'll hear from the likes of Gary Vee, Linda Boff, Rory Sutherland, and Jim Stengel on topics ranging from customer centricity to frameworks for innovation and the ability to understand and utilize data correctly. In this special episode, we cover all the timeless principles you need to be a high-performing modern marketer. Use this episode as a reference guide and drop in and out for the chapters and feel free to check out the full episodes all linked below. 

Welcome to Challenger Marketing Decoded! 

🎧Listen to this episode on your favorite platform - https://link.chtbl.com/scratch 

⚡️Mentioned in the show: 

CMO Mindmap - https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/rival-cmo-mindmap 

Jobs to be done Framework - https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/ep-19-how-to-apply-jobs-to-be-done-to-brand-building-with-bob-moesta 

BRIDGE by MENA fintech association - https://ffnews.com/newsarticle/fintech/mena-fintech-association-mfta-establishes-bridge-fintech-marketing-working-group-and-appoints-eric-fulwiler-as-chair/ 

Episodes from the show: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OPw54tqxq0&list=PLajBNfOMgl2EYo1K29XNIoEMwqapDlQTS&index=20

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_n0VhdyyYk 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62GtGz-fEeo 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPt1fSGx2jI

 https://youtu.be/nVbx9Rvlb_4?feature=shared&t=1156 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdZK9QP7IWM

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8q1qNRBUug 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx4lar_bCCU&list=PLajBNfOMgl2EYo1K29XNIoEMwqapDlQTS&index=18

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmUvxucIJl4 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYDaO-BUCgs&list=PLajBNfOMgl2EYo1K29XNIoEMwqapDlQTS&index=30

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkfrqXylt84 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU0pcEs1Ub4 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX8gU6yOoXw 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8EqSgJw0JE 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbh2xFaPgJA 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzy9ObAwCWY 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JjI-KKt2jc 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27kph5ACL7w 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZbioThkpa8 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaLosX00540  

📕Chapters

(00:00) Introduction to show 

(07:06)  Framework for innovation with Eos and General Electric 

(20:30) Relentless focus on the customer with Smile Direct Club, Activision, and Martin Lindstrom

(44:09) Seeking out new, different perspectives and ideas with Rory Sutherland, PepsiCo, and Mastercard

(01:03:20)  Moving fast on the things that matter with Seedrs, Gary Vaynerchuk and Jim Stengel (P&G)

(01:17:20) Be creatively brave with Mint Mobile & Magnolia Bakery 

(01:30:40) Managing the people/ Building a team - with, Gymbox & Flywire 

(01:51:27) Brand differentiation with Formula-E, Beavertown & HereWeFlo

(02:08:30)  - Double down on the data  with Resident & Bloom & Wild

(02:20:12) - Stay on top of your craft  with Hubspot

(02:25:49) - Love what you do

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

1BN Views and Counting: WorldChaseTag’s Marketing Playbook for Disrupting the Sports World06 Dec 202300:37:32

In this episode, Johnny McMahon, the GM & Chief Content Officer of World Chase Tag joins us to discuss how content has been a key pillar in the explosive growth of World Chase Tag. Over the course of 11 years, World Chase Tag has grown to a remarkable level. 🌍📈The stakes of the sport are extremely high, with viewership over 1 Billion in 34 countries with 3.6M followers. 📺🌎 For those of you who don't know what World Chase Tag (WCT) is, it's the same 'Tag' you played as a kid, but on a whole new level, blended with elements of parkour and freerunning. In WCT, stuntmen, parkour experts, ninja runners, and athletes from all walks of life compete with each other in an extremely fast-paced format. 🏃‍♂️💨

How did they get here? 🤔

In the world of sports, having great content is key to drawing viewers and fans, and World Chase Tag (WCT) has mastered this art. They create high-energy, fast-paced exciting content, with a presence spanning across multiple platforms. Their standout content on TikTok and YouTube features thrilling 20-second chases between athletes. 📹These short, bite-sized snippets are perfect for sharing, enabling WCT to reach new audiences through their socials. They smartly use dramatic moments like player injuries as eye-catching thumbnails and hooks for their videos, which has contributed to them achieving over a billion organic views online. 👀📈

Aside from an impeccable content strategy, Johnny walks us through the key pillars that have contributed to WCT's growth, such as licensing, athlete engagement, and the organization's global marketing approach. He believes that in sports, you can market to everyone everywhere, and having a target audience is only going to limit you. 🌐🎯

He finally shares insights into the future plans for WCT, including live events, sports betting, and a deeper focus on athletes' personal branding, drawing parallels with strategies used in other successful sports leagues. This was a fascinating episode, and what's more fascinating is some of WCT's content that we watched in preparation for this episode. We've attached the links below the chapters (watch these clips at your own risk, because you will definitely be hooked on their channel once you do). 🎥🔗

Watch the video version of this podcast on Youtube ▶️: https://youtu.be/QWDYPGgwnPk

          📚 Chapters:

  • (00:00:00) - Intro
  • (00:04:24) - What is World Chase Tag?
  • (00:10:20) - 3-5 Pillars of Growth for World Chase Tag
  • (00:14:00) - Acquiring customers from other sports 
  • (00:16:00) - How do influencers promote World Chase Tag
  • (00:21:00) - How World Chase Tag balances quality & quantity of content
  • (00:29:00) - What strategies has World Chase Tag taken from other sports?
  • (00:33:30) - LIGHTNING ROUND ⚡

🖊️Mentioned in the show:

- Clips - Worldchase tag  - Tiktok - 1 , 2 , 3 , Youtube shorts - 1, 2

- Distribution Deal News 

- TwitchCon - WCT

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and he’s joined by Johhny McMahon of WorldChaseTag in this episode

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube.

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Find johnny on LinkedIn.

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

Building One of the Fastest-Growing Challenger Brands in Personal Care with HereWeFlo22 Nov 202300:39:10

In this insightful episode, we join Susan Allen Augustin, co-founder of Here We Flo, as she shares the journey of her brand in the ever-evolving personal care market. Here We Flo stands out in the crowded personal care category with its unique focus on sustainable, natural products for period care, sensitive bladders, and sexual wellness. 

Susan discusses the intricacies of building a unique brand voice in the personal care sector, focusing on authenticity and relatability. She highlights how Hereweflo effectively employs humor, inclusivity, and storytelling to captivate a wide range of customers, especially the Gen Z audience. Additionally, she delves into the brand's deliberate expansion into retail, covering both UK and US markets, highlighting the significance of a physical presence as a vital complement to their online platforms.

A significant part of the conversation is dedicated to the role of sustainability in Here We Flo's business model. She talks about how brands need to meet customers where they are in their sustainability journey, and how being sustainable is not an ‘ego thing’.  Join us in this episode to explore  Here We Flo's unique marketing philosophy and discover insights that can help your brand thrive in a competitive market.

Watch the video version of this podcast on Youtube▶️: https://youtu.be/_JjI-KKt2jc

🖊️Mentioned in the show: 

Ruka Hair 

Hood Greetings 

WhoGivesaCrap Tube Campaign 

📕Chapters:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:03:20) - Favorite challenger brand

(00:07:30) - Here We Flo’s Plans for 2024?

(00:09:30) - How does Here We Flo come up with “good ideas”?

(00:13:20) - Effect of ‘culture’ on marketing

(00:22:39) - Here We Flo on Sustainability behavior

(00:32:00) - How to think above the line?

(00:36:17) - Lightning Round ⚡

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and he’s joined by Susan Allen Augustin of Here We Flo in this episode. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube.

Find Susan on LinkedIn

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How Gymbox Delivers Massive Campaigns With Minimal Budgets08 Nov 202300:43:01

In this episode of Scratch, Rory McEntee, Marketing Director of challenger fitness brand Gymbox, joins Eric for an engaging discussion on what it takes to cut through the noise as a marketer and have an outsized impact with your campaigns. Rory shares his passion for orchestrating unconventional campaigns that surprise audiences, taking risks that incumbents shy away from.

With 20 years under their belt, Gymbox has built a reputation for experience-led classes and irreverent, cheeky marketing. Rory attributes their success to embracing budget constraints and thinking differently. He relies more on instinct than data, noting that the customer is often wrong. His advice to marketers looking to stand out? "Do things you would not normally do. They may scare you, they may not work, but you might just hit on something." 

He encourages marketers to “ask for forgiveness, not permission”, and progressively build trust with leadership to get creative ideas approved over time. He believes that successful challenger brands are the ones that are unconventional and fresh in their creative campaigns and media choices. Join us in this episode to explore Gymbox's unique marketing philosophy and discover unorthodox insights that can help your brand thrive in a competitive market.

Watch the video version of this podcast on Youtube▶️ : https://youtu.be/K8EqSgJw0JE

Mentioned in the show:

Chapters:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:03:30) - Favorite Challenger Brand

(00:06:20) - Doing More with Less

(00:10:20) - How to do ‘Cool’ Stuff?

(00:22:30) - Does Marketing Really Drive Business Results?

(00:35:25) - Being Idea & Value Led

(00:40:30) - Lightning Round

"Scratch" is a production of Rival, a marketing consultancy and technology company that builds challenger brands, strategies, and capabilities to change categories. 

In every episode, Eric interviews the CMO of some of the world's biggest or fastest-growing challenger brands, exploring their innovative marketing strategies that challenge established incumbents. Immerse yourself in the world of challenger brands and learn valuable marketing lessons from industry experts, as you discover their secrets to success. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, and Twitter

Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube.

Find Rory on LinkedIn.

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How Yonder Is Building a Challenger Credit Card to Crush AMEX25 Oct 202300:49:15

Welcome to another episode of Scratch, where Eric is joined by the brilliant Tom Davies, Marketing Head at Yonder. Yonder is a challenger brand that offers a  modern rewards credit card with no foreign exchange fees, worldwide travel insurance, and many more benefits.

Tom & Eric discuss the importance of creativity in marketing and the pivotal role it plays in brand positioning & differentiation. Tom sheds light on how the CEO at Yonder has given him creative freedom that helps them think & act outside the box, moving beyond the often restrictive traditional marketing metrics & measurement models. Tom provides an insightful walkthrough of Yonder's strategic identification of a market gap in the perception of credit within the UK, meticulously crafting its unique selling proposition, offerings, and messaging to seamlessly align with this discerned opportunity.

Together, they dive into the innovative campaigns led by Yonder, aimed at resonating with the daily experiences of their audience. Tom highlights the importance of building an internal culture that supports creativity, which in turn, leads to a more dynamic and engaging marketing narrative. They discuss how this open approach not only boosts brand engagement but also fosters a collaborative atmosphere within the marketing team. Through examples like the 'Make it Rain' campaign, Tom illustrates how associating positive, enjoyable experiences with a brand can create a lasting impression beyond conventional marketing metrics. The episode illuminates the delicate balance between nurturing creativity and achieving business growth, offering a wealth of insights for challenger marketers navigating the currents set by their established counterparts.

Chapters:

(03:00) - What is Yonder?

(04:23) - Favorite Challenger Brand

(06:25) - Driving Cultural Change Around Credit and Rewards

(21:31) - Building an Early-Stage Marketing Practice

(26:20) - Building a Community Around the Brand

(43:30) - Lightning Round

Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube 🎬

"Scratch" is a production of Rival, a marketing consultancy and technology company that builds challenger brands, strategies, and capabilities to change categories. 

In every episode Eric interviews the CMO of some of the world's biggest or fastest-growing brands, exploring their innovative marketing strategies that challenge established incumbents. Immerse yourself in the world of challenger brands and learn valuable marketing lessons from industry experts, as you discover their secrets to success. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, and Twitter

Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube.

Find Eric on

 LinkedIn

 and tweet him

 @efulwiler

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How Beavertown’s Creative Marketing Disrupted the Beer Market in the UK11 Oct 202300:47:56

Welcome to another episode of Scratch. In this episode,  Eric sits down with the brilliant Tom Rainsford, the Marketing Director of Beavertown Brewery. Beavertown began its journey as a small-scale brewery and has impressively ramped up to an annual beer production of 5 million litres, solidifying its place in the craft beer world. Apart from his monumental success with Beavertown, Tom is also a co-founder of the Giffgaff Mobile Network. His creative prowess extends even further: he's been ranked among Creative Review's 'Top 50 Creative Leaders' and has held positions as a Director of Brand Engagement & culture @Giffgaff.

Diving into the conversation, Tom unravels the intricacies of brand positioning and the importance of being culture-forward in advertising. Together, Eric and Tom explore the significance of connecting with consumers on a genuine level. Emphasizing the critical role of authentic brand storytelling, Tom sheds light on the challenges and rewards of crafting unforgettable advertising campaigns.

The duo then discusses Beavertown’s distinctive branding approach, showcasing the potency of insight-driven creativity. Furthermore, Tom reflects on the pivotal role of community in fostering brand loyalty and engagement, emphasizing the need for brands to resonate deeply with the cultural zeitgeist for enduring success.

Watch the video version of this episode on Youtube 🎬 -  https://youtu.be/hzy9ObAwCWY

Chapters:

[03:18] Story of Beavertown 

[07:30] - The why of disruption 

[14:30] - The importance of having a Goliath 

[22:20] - What did your learning contribute to Beavertown? 

[27:00] - Is creativity dead? 

[33:00] - Staying relevant in an ever-evolving market 

[41:45] Favorite challenger brand

"Scratch" is a production of Rival, a marketing consultancy and technology company that builds challenger brands, strategies, and capabilities to change categories. In every episode Eric interviews the CMO of some of the world's biggest or fastest-growing brands, exploring their innovative marketing strategies that challenge established incumbents. Immerse yourself in the world of challenger brands and learn valuable marketing lessons from industry experts, as you discover their secrets to success. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube.

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How Fever-Tree Became the Leader of the $9.5Bn Premium Mixers Category12 Jun 202400:49:40

We’re joined by the CMO of Fever-Tree, Jeremy Kanter in this episode. Fever-Tree is a global brand that sells premium drink mixers designed to complement the world’s finest spirits 🥂✨. We discuss, 1 - How incumbents view innovation, 2 - The signs that a category is ripe for disruption, and 3 - What it truly takes to build an authentic premium brand. As Jeremy reveals in this episode, customers often don't think about your products as obsessively as you do; They make decisions based on what’s top of mind for them, and their previous experiences with the brand. So, if you want your customer to ‘stick’📌& have a ‘high lifetime value’, then you need to ask yourself if your product is superior to the rest. 

Fever-Tree has an obsessive focus on using the best ingredients and processes, which has allowed them to deliver a noticeably superior & better-tasting drink than their competition. They recently overtook Schweppes to become the top tonic water in the US. Jeremy tells us how we need to be “unreasonable” about quality and not accept the category norms because it’s the job of marketers to find innovative ways to add value. We dive into what it takes for a brand to be recognized as “premium” in its category, and how to mobilize ‘advocates’ to build the grassroots support your brand needs, especially in its initial stages 🌱🤝. Jeremy's marketing model begins with an exceptional product, developing channel/ritual advantages, cultivating advocates, and only then moving to broader advertising & comms. If you are in a crowded category and want to stand out with a premium & differentiated brand, then this episode is for you! 🌟🚀

Watch the video version of this podcast on Youtube ▶️: https://youtu.be/8HRwwHaR_rE

          📚 Chapters:

  • (00:00:00) - Intro
  • (00:03:45) - Favourite Challenger Brand 👊
  • (00:08:55) - What is Fever-Tree? 🍷
  • (00:18:10) - When is the right time to innovate in a category?
  • (00:23:30) - How to build a premium brand? 💸
  • (00:31:15) - Customer advocacy: Fevertree’s Playbook 📖
  • (00:36:20) - Does a Grassroots Approach Always Work?
  • (00:42:00) - Fever-Tree’s Marketing Model 🌎
  • (00:45:30) - Lightning Round ⚡

🖊️Mentioned in the show:

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and he’s joined by Jeremy Kanter of Fever-Tree in this episode.

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Eric on LinkedIn.

Find Jeremy on LinkedIn.

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How Inclusive Marketing is Driving HiBob’s $2.5B Valuation in HR tech04 Oct 202300:43:33

Welcome to another episode of Scratch, where Eric is joined by the brilliant Sarah Reynolds, who serves as the CMO at HiBob. Sarah is an award-winning B2B SaaS marketing executive and a well-known diversity and inclusion advocate. They take us on a journey into the realm of inclusive marketing and the significance of LGBTQIA+ leadership within the marketing industry.

Together, Sarah & Eric explore the intersection of diversity and marketing strategies.  Sarah places a strong emphasis on the vital role that inclusive marketing plays in establishing a more extensive market presence.  They delve into the various challenges and opportunities faced by a trans, non-binary CMO, underlining the pressing need for increased diversity within the C-suite. They also articulate how inclusive marketing is not only ethically sound but also a smart business strategy.

Sarah generously shares their insights on strategies to steer clear of "purpose-washing" and maintain authenticity in brand messaging. They provide invaluable best practices and principles to ensure a brand's purpose aligns seamlessly with its actions. Additionally, they underscore the significance of practicing what you preach by "eating your own dog food." They discuss a systematic approach to fostering an inclusive organizational culture, encompassing both top-down and bottom-up initiatives. We really enjoyed recording this one, and are sure that you'll find Sarah’s insights and perspectives truly enlightening. 

Chapters:

(3:40) Favorite challenger brand

(7:20) Opportunity for more LGBTQIA+ individuals?

(10:40) How to be more inclusive?

(18:25) How do you actually drive change in your organization?

(32:30) Prioritizing what needs to be done

(37:00) Lightning Round

"Scratch" is a production of Rival, a marketing consultancy and technology company that builds challenger brands, strategies, and capabilities to change categories. In every episode Eric interviews the CMO of some of the world's biggest or fastest-growing brands, exploring their innovative marketing strategies that challenge established incumbents. Immerse yourself in the world of challenger brands and learn valuable marketing lessons from industry experts, as you discover their secrets to success. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube.

Find Sarah on LinkedIn.

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

Google's Ad Scam & What it Means for Marketers | Scratch Special with Dr. Augustine Fou20 Sep 202300:47:30

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Jenna Cummings, and she’s joined by Dr. Augustine Fou. 

In today’s special episode of Scratch, Jenna is joined by Dr.Augustine Fou, a leading expert in the area of digital ad fraud. Dr. Fou has been on the front lines of digital marketing for nearly 3 decades assisting government, regulatory bodies, and corporations in how to prevent and detect the nexus of cybercrime and ad fraud. 

 He joins us to discuss the latest in the Google ad fraud case which was brought to light by the team at Adlytics, who uncovered that Google has been running most of the ads you pay for as an advertiser (50-90%) on a network of third-party websites and mobile apps called "Google Video Partners" (GVP), where it’s virtually impossible to skip the ad. This means that as an advertiser, you’re paying for views that are not real. Jenna and Dr.Fou explore the implications for marketers, how you can start to build your own checks and balances, and how to not become addicted to phantom volumes when you run ads. This is a must-listen for digital marketers everywhere! 

Smart link: https://link.chtbl.com/scratch

📕Chapters: 

00:00 Intro

03:14 Dr.Fou’s Favourite Challenger Brand 

06:00 Google’s Ad Fraud - The Overview 

13:00 Double Verify have been grading their own homework, and it isn’t good 

20:20 Google will do the right thing when shown the right data

23:41 What alternatives do we have to verify the ad numbers? 

28:45 If you’re not willing to do the work, you don’t deserve to be a digital marketer

32:50 Spend less. You should be buying less and testing more 

40:04 You can’t reduce carbon emissions in your ad buys by outsourcing this to other vendors 

Mentioned in the show:

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube.

Find Jenna on LinkedIn  

Find Dr Fou on Linkedin

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How to View Branding as a Science with Martin Lindstrom06 Sep 202300:50:37

Welcome to another exciting episode of Scratch, where we had  the pleasure of hosting the brilliant Martin Lindstrom, a Marketing Expert and Author hailing from Lindstrom Company. Martin's reputation precedes him, known for his influential works including "Buyology," "Small Data," and "The Ministry of Common Sense."

But that's not all; Martin's influence extends far beyond the pages of his books. As the founder and chairman of Lindstrom Company, he leads a pioneering branding and culture transformation firm that operates across five continents and in over 30 countries. Over the years, he has been the go-to consultant for the crème de la crème of Fortune 100 companies, helping them navigate the ever-evolving landscape of branding and culture.

Together, Eric and Martin dive into the world of marketing, exploring the delicate balance between creativity and data-driven science. Martin underlines the crucial role of putting consumers at the heart of your strategy to build a powerful brand. He also highlights the hurdles that creativity encounters in today's ever-evolving marketing landscape.

Additionally, Martin shares valuable insights into the role of a Chief Marketing Officer (CMO) in the intricate web of today's business world. Throughout the episode, there's a strong emphasis on the profound impact you can make in the world by aligning your work with a greater purpose. We really enjoyed recording this one, and are sure that you'll find Martin's insights and perspectives truly enlightening. 

Mentioned in the show:

Chapters:

(6:10) What do you think of an incumbent becoming a challenger?

(17:32) Customer-focused examples

(20:32) Everyone talks about being customer-centric, How do you get there?

(25:32) How do you define marketing?

(34:32) What do you think of creativity in marketing?

(38:27) What should people do to be more respected to be a CMO?

(46:00) Rapid Fire

"Scratch" is a production of Rival, a marketing consultancy and technology company that builds challenger brands, strategies, and capabilities to change categories. In every episode Eric interviews the CMO of some of the world's biggest or fastest-growing brands, exploring their innovative marketing strategies that challenge established incumbents. Immerse yourself in the world of challenger brands and learn valuable marketing lessons from industry experts, as you discover their secrets to success. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube.

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Find Martin on LinkedIn.

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How Delightful Customer Experiences Powered Bloom & Wild to 20M Deliveries28 Jul 202300:44:29

In the final episode before the summer break, we’re joined by Bloom & Wild’s Chief Customer Officer, Charlotte Langley.  She reveals the strategies and insights that have driven 20m deliveries and 100k 5-star reviews for the letterbox flower brand.

As the CCO, she shares exactly how she approaches the vital role of being the voice of the customer, bridging the gap between commercial needs and customer desires; a responsibility she carries with utmost dedication whilst pairing commercial savvy with creative acumen. 

Charlotte also shares some of Bloom & Wild’s codified principles around team structure, customer centricity, and creative thinking that have allowed Bloom & Wild to become one of the biggest success stories not only in the category but also in the D2C space. 

What truly sets Bloom & Wild apart is their commitment to going above and beyond for their customers. By employing high-powered data analytics and leveraging their genuine care, they proactively address potential issues like late deliveries and repeatedly “surprise & delight” customers. The future looks bright as the company blooms to encompass broader gifting categories, all whilst preserving the emotional connection that lies at the heart of its exceptional customer experience.

Tune in and share this episode with a marketer you know that will love it! 

👂🏻 Listen on your favorite platform 🎧 : https://link.chtbl.com/scratch

📕Chapters:

00:00 Episode intro

02:30 Guest intro 

04:53 One Challenger brand you’re passionate about right now? 

07:15 Tell us about your role/remit as Chief Customer Officer.

10:45 Do you own a revenue target within the business? Does that sit with someone else?

12:29 You also oversee product which is quite unique in terms of the role - was it always structured this way or did you create this? 

16:00 Commerical understanding is key when you’re trying to be a marketer who matters at the C-suite level. 

17:16 What are the principles/practices that have contributed to Bloom & Wild’s incredible growth over the past decade? 

23:40 Is there a process/budget around this strategy of “surprising & delighting” customers? 

26:56 How do you balance being data-driven and being idea led when it comes to product innovation? 

29:42 You tested bricks & mortar retail as a channel, what made you decide to cut it even in light of traditional wisdom? 

32:38 How are you thinking about the next 10 years of growth to become a true rival brand? 

36:50 How do you “stretch” the Bloom & Wild brand to spread into new categories? 

39:55 Lightning round- Biggest Win? 

40:33 - Biggest struggle? 

41:00 - Best marketing resource 

42:38 - Biggest lesson you’ve learned? 

43:26 - One thing CMOs should do differently after listening to this? 

❓Mentioned in the Show: 

📲AMP community for CMOs - If you’re a brand-side marketer and want to join, check it out here - https://www.wearerival.com/amp-group

 Pentire Drinks: https://pentiredrinks.com/

 "Scratch" is a production of Rival, a marketing consultancy and technology company that builds challenger brands, strategies, and capabilities to change categories. In every episode Eric interviews the CMO of some of the world's biggest or fastest-growing brands, exploring their innovative marketing strategies that challenge established incumbents. Immerse yourself in the world of challenger brands and learn valuable marketing lessons from industry experts, as you discover their secrets to success. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter. 

Find Charlotte on Linkedin. @charlottelangley

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler. 

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

Formula E’s CMO on Building the Most Exciting Challenger Brand in Sports13 Jul 202300:49:24

Welcome to another enlightening episode of Scratch! In this episode, Eric is joined by the brilliant Henry Chilcott, the Chief Marketing Officer at Formula E. Henry unveils the fascinating realms of electric racing and sustainability, sharing valuable insights on what it means to be a challenger in a category dominated by an incumbent. 

Together, they explore the dynamic interplay between high performance and sustainability, emphasizing its significance in establishing a strong brand identity. Henry sheds light on the strategic approaches and innovative initiatives undertaken by Formula E, highlighting the power of disruption in today's competitive business landscape. Join them as they delve into captivating topics such as audience engagement, content creation, and the broader implications of being an innovator within a sport that has such a foothold in the consumers' minds. Get ready for a thought-provoking discussion filled with valuable takeaways that can help you adapt and scale your marketing strategies. Tune in, we had a lot of fun recording this one!

Watch the video version of this podcast on Youtube.

[If you’re a brand-side marketer and want to join the AMP community, check out the application form here - https://www.wearerival.com/amp-group ]

Chapters:

(00:00) Intro

(4:10) What challenger brand are you passionate about?

(7:45) Where is Formula E right now?

(11:00) How did you differentiate your brand?

(15:30) What role does 'purpose' play in your marketing strategy?

(29:30) How do you know when to stick with tradition and when to make changes?

(36:30) Media company marketing model

(44:00) Lightning round

Mentioned in the Show:

"Scratch" is a production of Rival, a marketing consultancy and technology company that builds challenger brands, strategies, and capabilities to change categories. 

In every episode Eric interviews the CMO of some of the world's biggest or fastest-growing brands, exploring their innovative marketing strategies that challenge established incumbents. Immerse yourself in the world of challenger brands and learn valuable marketing lessons from industry experts, as you discover their secrets to success. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Henry on Linkedin.

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How to Launch One Of The Biggest Games In The World With Matt Webster of Activision28 Jun 202300:39:50

In this episode of Scratch, we had the pleasure of talking to Matthew Webster, the Vice President of Global Marketing for Activision and Call of Duty, about the launch of one of the biggest games in the world, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. With a career spanning over 15 years, Matthew has led global marketing at Twitch, Spotify, PlayStation, SoundCloud, and Ticketmaster, and has a wealth of experience in transforming challenger brands into industry giants. He shares his insights on understanding and connecting with your audience through testing, research, and community engagement, and also emphasizes the importance of maintaining a strong in-game experience.

Additionally, the conversation touches on the value of strategic partnerships and collaborations within the gaming industry, including working with franchises like World of Warcraft, Diablo, and Overwatch. Matthew highlights the benefits of learning from successful brands and leveraging their expertise to drive innovation and growth. The episode also explores regionalization strategies, influencer marketing, and the importance of staying agile and open to emerging opportunities in the ever-changing landscape of the gaming industry.

Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube.

[If you’re a brand-side marketer and want to join the AMP community, check out the application form here}

Chapters:

[03:20] Intro

[04:20] What challenger brand are you most passionate about?

[08:20] How do you balance between being relevant and driving scale for a game like Call of Duty?

[13:30] What process did you go through when you were new to this role?

[24:00] What are the ways that you find to stay on top of all the changes happening in the MarTech Ecosystem?

[27:20] A billion-dollar revenue in 10 days, what's next? Where do we go from here?

[32:05] What lessons have you learned from COD's launch that can apply to other marketers?

[33:40] What is the flywheel for my business?

[34:40] Lightning Round

"Scratch" is a production of Rival, a marketing consultancy and technology company that builds challenger brands, strategies, and capabilities to change categories. 

In every episode Eric interviews the CMO of some of the world’s biggest or fastest-growing brands, exploring their innovative marketing strategies that challenge established incumbents. Immerse yourself in the world of challenger brands and learn valuable marketing lessons from industry experts, as you discover their secrets to success. 

Find Matthew on Linkedin.

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, and Twitter

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How to Build Brand Buzz with the VP Head of Brand of Papa Johns, Jaclyn Ruelle07 Jun 202300:45:26

Welcome to another episode of Scratch, where Eric is joined by the brilliant Jaclyn Ruelle, VP head of Brand @Papa Johns, the mastermind behind Papa Johns exceptional campaigns. Jaclyn unravels the secrets of creating a buzz around your brand and igniting captivating conversations among your consumers.

Together, they explore the art of truly understanding your customers and consistently delivering content that sparks their curiosity. Jaclyn emphasizes the significance of strategic communication methods, including new channels which are still growing, in establishing a robust online presence. Moreover, she sheds light on the concept of identifying your brand's "carrier pigeons" – the key individuals who can ignite a ripple effect of excitement and viral discussions.

They discuss various metrics to measure ‘talkability’  such as the "Impact ratio”, and  “Attention Score” - a valuable tool for evaluating campaign performance by considering factors such as engagement and media spend. She also talks about recognizing the need for a quick and decisive team to launch impactful campaigns, especially during major events like the Super Bowl. Additionally, they stress the importance of active listening and contributing meaningful insights to discussions, all while extending your brand's reach for a lasting impact.

[If you’re a brand-side marketer and want to join the AMP community, check out the application form here]

Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube 🎥.

Chapters:

(00:00) Intro

(04:00) A Challenger Brand you're really passionate about

(14:25) How do you start with 'getting a deeping understanding' your consumer?

(19:30) How do you decide what to say, where to say it, and when to say it?

(25:48) What metrics do you look at to understand whether or not you're driving 'talkability' around the brand?

(34:02) Is there a case study that you can point to about driving buzz?

(42:48) Lightning Round

"Scratch" is a production of Rival, a marketing consultancy and technology company that builds challenger brands, strategies, and capabilities to change categories. 

In every episode Eric interviews the CMO of some of the worlds biggest or fastest-growing brands, exploring their innovative marketing strategies that challenge established incumbents. Immerse yourself in the world of challenger brands and learn valuable marketing lessons from industry experts, as you discover their secrets to success. 

Find Jaclyn on Linkedin.

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How To Build an Iconic Brand with CMO of PepsiCo Int’l Beverages, Mark Kirkham24 May 202300:51:14

Join us for another insightful episode of Scratch, hosted by Eric Fulwiler, with special guest Mark Kirkham, the CMO of PepsiCo International Beverages. PepsiCo is an iconic brand, recognized globally for its diverse portfolio and commitment to societal impact. Mark shares his wealth of marketing knowledge on building a brand that goes beyond just products and stands for a purpose that resonates with its consumers. He emphasizes the importance of being relevant, differentiating your brand, and aligning your actions with your brand's broader mission.

Mark also talks about the strategic marketing choices brands need to make to establish themselves as 'iconic', the balance between global scale and local relevance, and how to prioritize in a world filled with marketing opportunities. He underscores the importance of understanding your consumers, learning from failures, and always questioning your brand's relevance to your audience. This episode is packed with invaluable insights into PepsiCo's mission to connect with its consumers on a deeper level. The discussion highlights the significance of purpose-driven branding, customer understanding, and the right cultural fit in the dynamic landscape of marketing consumer goods. Be sure to tune in and learn from one of the best in the business! 

[If you’re a brand-side marketer and want to join the AMP community, check out the application form here]

Chapters:

[03:57] Intro

[05:40] What is the one challenger brand you’re passionate about?

[09:08] How important is authenticity for challenger brands?

[14:25] How does a day look in the life of the CMO of Pepsico?

[17:49] How do you get the insight onto ‘what you need to do’ to be relevant and iconic?

[21:09] How do you use ‘purpose’ in your role as a CMO of so many brands?

[29:30] How do you actually become iconic?

[33:30] Do you have a framework to split investment between splitting things that are actually going to work, and innovating and trying out new things?

[39:20] Driving global scale and local relevance at the same time

[40:50] If you left Pepsi tomorrow, and started your own company, what would you do in the first 30 days to build an iconic brand from scratch?

[43:40] Lightning Round

Watch this episode on Youtube 📺: 

"Scratch" is a production of Rival, a marketing consultancy and technology company that builds challenger brands, strategies, and capabilities to change categories. 

In every episode Eric interviews the CMO of some of the worlds biggest or fastest-growing brands, exploring their innovative marketing strategies that challenge established incumbents. Immerse yourself in the world of challenger brands and learn valuable marketing lessons from industry experts, as you discover their secrets to success. 

Find Mark on Linkedin.

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube.

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

Marketing strategies for Scaling the largest fintech in Europe: Lessons from Bitpanda's Unicorn Journey10 May 202300:42:36

Join Eric in this insightful episode of Scratch as he interviews Magdalena Hörhager, the VP of Growth at Bitpanda. Bitpanda is a challenger brand that’s had a metoeric rise to become one of the most significant and trusted investment platforms in Europe. Magdalena sheds light on Bitpanda’s marketing strategies that focus on trust, consistency, differentiation, and cultural relevance.

Magdalena emphasizes the importance of having a product that speaks for itself and encourages word-of-mouth marketing and stresses on the need to be agile and creative while setting up tracking and KPIs from the outset. She also discusses why hiring the right people, establishing processes, and organizational structures is a must, along with measuring the effectiveness of campaigns to ensure they resonate with the target audience.

The discussion also covers the challenges faced by traditional financial institutions, the impact of regulations on growth, and the value of building a strong brand identity that is culturally relevant. The episode is packed with valuable insights into Bitpanda's mission to make investing accessible to everyone. The discussion underscores the importance of data-driven marketing strategies, having a strong brand identity, and customer-centric approaches in the competitive fintech landscape.

[If you’re a brand-side marketer and want to join the AMP community, check out the application form here]

This episode is a must-listen for those interested in understanding the workings of a successful fintech unicorn and the intricacies of marketing a hyper-growth start-up.

"Scratch" is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that helps businesses grow faster by developing effective strategies and capabilities.

Chapters:

00:00 - Introduction

04:50 - What is BitPanda?

06:25 - Ice breaker - What challenger brand are you the most passionate about?

08:50 - Scaling to 4 Million Customers

13:12 - What are the key pillars in your marketing Playbook?

15:50 - What is the balance in being culturally relevant?: Top-Down (Global to Local) or Bottom up (Local to Global)

21:25 - What are the things that a head of marketing or CMO of a pre-revenue business should be focused on?

24:35 - What advice would you give to early sage marketers?

27:14 - What changes in terms of priority after revenue starts coming in?

30:45 - What changes with 7-figure customers, and unicorn status- for a marketer?

36:30 - How do you make change happen fast?

39:00 - Lightning Round

Every week, Eric interviews the CMO of a challenger brand, exploring their innovative marketing strategies that challenge established incumbents. Immerse yourself in the world of challenger brands and learn valuable marketing lessons from industry experts, as you discover their secrets to success.

Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube.

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and in this week’s episode, he’s joined by Magdalena Hörhager, the VP of Growth at Bitpanda.

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Eric on  LinkedIn and tweet him  @efulwiler

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

 

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

Reinventing the $50B Radio Industry for the Digital Age with Richard Stern, CEO of Tunein12 Apr 202300:46:41

In this episode, Eric invites Richard Stern, the CEO of TuneIn, to discuss how TuneIn is revolutionizing the radio industry through digital transformation. TuneIn is a challenger brand with a mission to disrupt traditional radio broadcasting, allowing listeners to tune in to shows from anywhere in the world without being restricted by geographical limitations.

With 75 million monthly active users, TuneIn has become one of the most widely used streaming audio platforms globally. Richard highlights the importance of offering a better user experience to encourage adoption, using examples from industries like Uber, Casper, and Apple to illustrate how disruption can lead to innovation. He emphasizes that a great product should serve as its own marketing, providing an exceptional user experience that attracts and retains customers.

During the podcast, Eric and Richard also discuss the marketing challenges faced by traditional radio broadcasting, the role of brand in the connected home, and the value of companionship provided by radio listening. Tune in to this insightful conversation that highlights TuneIn's mission and the future of radio in the digital realm.

"Scratch" is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that helps businesses grow faster by developing effective strategies and capabilities.

Every week, Eric interviews the CMO of a challenger brand, exploring their innovative marketing strategies that challenge established incumbents. Immerse yourself in the world of challenger brands and learn valuable marketing lessons from industry experts, as you discover their secrets to success.

👉If you’re a brand-side marketer and want to join the AMP community, check out the application form here

Chapters:

(00:00) Rival AMP Community

(5:23) What is one challenger brand that you’re passionate about right now?

(9:35) Does Tesla actually do marketing?

(14:00) Mattress wars

(23:55) Home of Storytelling - Audible

(24:05) What problem are challenger brands trying to solve

(27:00) Being customer-centric the way Amazon is

(28:10) Early days of Uber

(31:55) What is the mission for Tune in

(36:55) "People don’t change for more good, they only change for much better"

(45:00) One thing people should do differently after listening to this episode

Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube.

Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and in this episode,  he’s joined by Richard Stern, the CEO of TuneIn. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Find Richard Stern on LinkedIn 

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

The Truth Behind the World’s Biggest LGBTQ+ Brand with the SVP, Brand Marketing of Grindr29 May 202400:47:35

In this episode, we are joined by the SVP of Brand Marketing and Communications at Grindr, Tristan Pineiro. Grindr is an online dating & meetup app predominantly used by gay and bisexual men and the trans & queer community. Tristan’s marketing philosophy is to understand and align the three brand truths - who you say you are, who people say you are, and who you really are. He emphasizes that finding the authentic, true brand narrative serves as the foundation for a successful marketing function 📈.

Throughout the episode, he advocates for a ‘social-led’ marketing discipline, which means that you create engaging content to drive brand affinity while focusing on insights around how the most engaged users actually use the product. He breaks down the mental models that he uses to get buy-in from leadership on brand positioning while balancing commercial realities with the brand's purpose. We also discuss how Grindr uses content to extend the brand’s story across different channels & markets 🌍. If you want to learn how your team’s content efforts can help in building an authentic yet differentiated brand, then this episode is for you!

Watch the video version of this podcast on Youtube ▶️: https://youtu.be/RjxLbD5yss8

📚 Chapters:

  • (00:00:00) - Intro
  • (00:05:32) - Why Barbie killed it 🌟
  • (00:09:10) - What is Grindr 💡
  • (00:11:45) - Grindr’s Positioning 🎯
  • (00:13:30) - First 6 months as a CMO
  • (00:21:15) - Differentiation: Grindr’s perspective 🔍
  • (00:31:30) - Social-Led Marketing 🌐
  • (00:42:09) - Strategy - the Art of Sacrifice 
  • (00:43:35) - Lightning round ⚡
  • (00:43:42) - Best Career Advice
  • (00:44:24) - Marketing Pet Peeve
  • (00:45:30) - One thing People Should do Differently

🖊️ Mentioned in the show:

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and he’s joined by Tristan Pineiro of Grindr in this episode

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn.

Find Eric on LinkedIn.

Find Tristan on LinkedIn.

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How To Grow Sustainably in High-Growth Categories22 Mar 202300:42:06

In this insightful podcast, join us as we delve into the world of sustainable growth and quick commerce with Diego-Tarek de Aristegui. Explore the challenges and opportunities associated with transitioning people's buying habits from brick-and-mortar to online commerce, and learn why business acumen and data visualization have become essential skills for marketers in this rapidly evolving landscape.

Diego shares invaluable insights on the importance of quality and customer experience, as well as the importance of establishing a purpose-driven company for long-term success. Learn how to distinguish your brand, strike a balance between short-term and long-term metrics, and avoid the creation of deal addicts through excessive promotions.

Throughout the conversation, we talk about how sustainable growth varies based on your place in the market. Don't miss this captivating discussion that will inspire you to think differently and drive meaningful impact in the marketing industry.

Scratch is a production of Rival 🚀, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities to help businesses grow faster. Scratch is 🎙️ Hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and he’s joined Diego-Tarek de Aristegui.

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn 💼 , Twitter 🐦. 

Watch the video version 🎥  of this Podcast on YouTube .

Find Eric on LinkedIn 🌐 and tweet him @efulwiler 🐦

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you 😊 .

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How Marketing Can Make a Difference with Sophie Collins CMO of MPB15 Mar 202300:33:31

In this exciting episode, we welcome Sophie Collins, an accomplished marketing leader and CMO at MPB, the world's top platform for reselling camera gear. With her extensive experience as VP of digital for DAZN and a decade-long stint as Managing Director of performance marketing for Neo @ Ogilvy, Sophie shares her insights on how marketing can drive positive change and how businesses can start with an authentic ‘purpose’. She provides valuable advice to marketers who are passionate about making a difference, regardless of their leadership positions. 

(00:48) Icebreaker - tell us about a challenger brand you really love

(03:50) Intro to MPB 

(08:05)  Where do you start with developing an authentic practical purpose for your brand  

(12:09) How closely does authenticity and commercial purpose have to be in your mind? 

(13:50) How does someone who isn’t CMO have an impact? 

(20:50)  How do you think about marketing in having a positive impact in the world  

(24:20)  What organisations and places should  marketers look at to get more into the world of sustainability 

(26:50) One thing (or two) things people should do differently after they listen to this 

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and he’s joined by Sophie Collins CMO of MPB.  

👉Want to join Rival AMP? Join us here.

Mentioned in the show:

Flo 

Riley 

Circular Economy Network, Recurate, mentioned in ZAG 50

Conscious advertising network 

Breaking barriers 

Creatives for Climate

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube.

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

Replicating Lightning in a Bottle Moments and Explosive Growth with Kate McCutchen, CMO Seedrs08 Mar 202300:39:51

In this week's episode, we are joined by Kate McCutchen, the CMO of Seedrs  and Global Head of Marketing for Republic Retail. As Republic looks to revolutionise the way ordinary individuals can invest in the best startups and VC funds, Kate is leading the charge with their marketing. Drawing on over 15 years of experience at Apple, Samsung, Amazon Fresh, Square and Away, she has a wealth of insight and experience in what it takes to grow a business in a new market and capture lightning in a bottle, at scale. It was such a masterclass for marketers who are trying to deliver growth at a global level. 

Amongst other things, we discussed:

  • Why she thinks paint brands like Coat are incredible challengers in a redundant space 
  • How to launch businesses like Square, Amazon Fresh and Republic into new markets successfully  
  • The one mindset modern marketers need to have in order to capture the viral moments 

Mentioned in the show: 

💻 Republic website

🎨Coat paints 

🍺Union DC website 

⚡️Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and he’s joined by Kate McCutchen of Seedrs. 

👉Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

👀Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube.

👉Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

👉Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How To Build The Fastest Growing E-Commerce Business In North America With Gil Efrati, CMO Of Resident01 Mar 202300:40:59

In this week's episode, we are joined by Gil Efrati, CMO of Resident. Resident was, at one point, the fastest growing e-commerce brand in North America, and in this episode, Gil explains exactly how you get to that size and scale. 

Gil has an incredible perspective on the role of data and why being “data-led” is really not a buzz word for Resident but an executable strategy. 

Hear about how Resident leverages data in their creative campaigns and how brands can differentiate themselves in this crowded space. 

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and in this episode, he’s joined by Gil Efrati, the CMO of Resident. 

Mentioned: 

👉Make America Sleep Again

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Watch the video version of this Podcast on YouTube.

Find Gil on LinkedIn

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

Community is the Future of Marketing with Mark Schaefer22 Feb 202300:46:44

Watch the Future of the CMO documentary here 🎥 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXBKelmQomM

In this week's episode, we are joined (for the second time) by Mark Schaefer - author, acclaimed marketing consultant, keynote speaker, podcaster, and university educator. He is the author of 10 books and he joins us today to discuss his latest book, “Belonging To The Brand; Why Community Is The Last Great Marketing Strategy”. In the episode we uncover the 3 mega-trends are that providing the “perfect storm” for community based marketing to win, how to build a sustainable community, and the common pitfalls that CMO’s face when building these communities.

Mentioned in the show:

📕Mark’s New Book

🌹LEGO’s Adult Flowers

📰NY Times The Loneliest Generation

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⚡️Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing consultancy that builds challenger brands, strategies, and capabilities to change categories.

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Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How to Win in the New “Experience” Era with Adobe's Executive Creative Director, Adam Morgan08 Feb 202300:42:17

Adam Morgan is the Executive Creative Director Adobe, and with 26 years of experience in the creative industry he's seen many new "eras" of marketing come and go. In this episode  we discuss what mindset you need to succeed in the "experience" era, why the next-gen CEO will be a creative, and why he's pushing to have more creative people making business-critical decisions. 

Aside from leading Adobe's creative efforts, Adam is the author of ‘Sorry Spock, Emotions Drive Business: Proving the value of creative ideas with science, and is the host of the Real Creative Leadership Podcast

Connect with Adam on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/admo3/

Discussed in the show:

Adam Morgan - Sorry Spock Emotions Drive Business (Book)

Simon Sinek - Infinite Game (Book)

Chip Heath & Dan Heath -Power of moments

Real Creative Leadership Podcast 

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If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

Adapting Your Mindset When Moving from Incumbent to Challenger with Kelly Starman, CMO PartsSource01 Feb 202300:38:10

In this week’s episode, Eric talks to Kelly Starman CMO of PartsSource, a leading online healthcare marketplace for mission-critical healthcare products and services. Kelly is a results-focused marketing executive with two decades of driving growth and leading high-performing teams at GE, Athena Health and Phillips.  As a result she has a wealth of knowledge on what it takes to be a successful marketer in organisations of different sizes, and how to balance speed and process effectively. It was really interesting to hear about her own personal strategies for innovating, being effective and what frameworks she uses when it comes to budgeting for her global marketing teams.

Connect with Kelly on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kstarman/details/experience/

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Discussed in the show:

HBR After Hours

Atomic Habits

Learn from the best challenger marketing strategies & tactics from CMO’s of global brands, every Wednesday on Scratch. 

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing consultancy that builds challenger brands, strategies, and capabilities to change categories. 

Today's episode was hosted by Eric Fulwiler. 

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Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How to Make an Impact by Being Scrappy with Delbert Ty of Coffee Meets Bagel25 Jan 202300:43:24

In this week’s episode, Eric talks with Delbert Ty, CMO of Coffee Meets Bagel, a challenger online dating app. Delbert came up through the ranks at Procter & Gamble, working on some of the biggest brands in the world for one of the biggest marketing organizations in the world. It’s fascinating to hear how he, as a disruptor and innovator, was able to navigate the organization and do some really exciting work. He also shares how he was able to turn a new telco brand in Singapore into an overnight success with one campaign, and how he’s approaching his new role at CMB in much more crowded and advanced category. We love his approach and his prompt of actually doubling down on ideas that people think are crazy. It’s what leads to impact!

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Discussed in the show:

Notion's Campaign

Polestar 

Coffee Meets Bagel

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing consultancy that builds challenger brands, strategies, and capabilities to change categories. Today's episode was hosted by Eric Fulwiler. Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter. 

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler. 

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

Baking Virality with NYC's Most Famous Bakery18 Jan 202300:44:24

In this week’s episode, Eric speaks with Eddie Revis, CMO of Magnolia Bakery in NYC. Eddie is “on a mission to show the world that marketing doesn’t have to suck” and he is certainly doing that at Magnolia! He and the team have been launching some amazing campaigns that have been getting mainstream attention and going viral in the US. How does he do it? It’s all about plugging the brand into culture and never stopping at just a good idea, but always pushing towards a great idea.

Connect with Eddie on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/edwardrevis/

And check out some of the recent campaigns from Magnolia

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/amp/food/story/viral-muffins-youtube-star-reprises-role-unveil-latest-86881947

https://wwd.com/beauty-industry-news/beauty-features/tula-skincare-magnolia-bakery-1235307230/

https://patch.com/new-york/parkslope/banana-pudding-beer-here

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler.

Say hi at media@wearerival.com , we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How Mint Mobile Drives Business Innovation Through Marketing with CMO Aron North11 Jan 202300:52:38

In today's episode we have Mint Mobile's CMO, Aron North, join us to discuss everything from how Mint started as a "side hustle" within the business, how they are using marketing to drive true product innovation, and how creative Ryan Reynold's is as a part owner in Mint.

Links to anything mentioned in the show:

https://www.linkedin.com/company/mint-mobile-llc/videos/native/urn:li:ugcPost:6943242261367308288/

https://www.mintmobile.com/ 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/aronnorth/

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter.

You can also watch this podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Wearerival/

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Today's episode was hosted by Eric Fulwiler. 

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler.

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you. 

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

Creating Series-E Impact with a Pre-seed Budget with the CMO of Tomorrow.io15 May 202400:56:24

In this episode, we are joined by the CMO of Tomorrow.io, Dan Slagen. Tomorrow.io is a global weather intelligence brand that provides predictive insights to help major brands and governments mitigate operational risks from weather events. Despite being a Series E company with a marketing team of just 4 people, Dan shares how they have built a major brand around their service through 1- Creative storytelling, 2- Leveraging media coverage, and 3- Establishing "weather intelligence" as a new category altogether (which they now lead) ⛈️.

Dan discusses the marketing principles and practices that allow his lean team to punch above their weight 👊. He covers multiple key strategies, including a strong alignment with the sales team & building processes around AI/automation. He also emphasizes the importance of balancing short and long-term initiatives, taking creative swings with a test-and-learn approach, and the importance of speaking the language of the CEO. At the end of the episode, he shares the playbook he uses to maintain a CEO mindset as a CMO and the importance of understanding the CEO's priorities; after all, he is the author of ‘Understanding Startup CEOs’ 📚. If you’re in a mid-senior marketing position and want to learn how to build trust and have a better relationship with the rest of the leadership, then this episode is for you. 

Watch the video version of this podcast on Youtube ▶️: https://youtu.be/MP9CdTW2VaI

   📚 Chapters:

  • (00:00:00) - Intro
  • (00:06:00) - Weather Intelligence Brand 🌧️ - Tomorrow.io
  • (00:23:18) - Building a long-term marketing plan
  • (00:33:01) - Lean marketing - how to do more with less
  • (00:41:05) - How to decide what to not do?
  • (00:43:33) - Creativity in Campaigns
  • (00:47:12) - Taking big swings & innovations
  • (00:49:00) - Hiring AI Marketer 👷
  • (00:54:10) - Understanding startup CEOs

🖊️Mentioned in the show:

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and he’s joined by Dan Slagen of Tomorrow.io in this episode.

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, and LinkedIn.

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler

Find Dan on LinkedIn.

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How To Be An Adaptable Brand In Ever Changing Environments With Margo Kahnrose of Skai04 Jan 202300:45:33

In this week’s episode, Jenna sits down with Margo Kahnrose, CMO of Skai. They discuss what it's like to grow a brand and own a place in the market when consumer's have unlimited choices and how you can keep your brand relevant in this ever changing world.  They also cover how the rebrand from Kenshoo to Skai was conceived and why it was necessary along with the changes that all companies in AdTech and Marketing Tech are facing. 

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Connect with Jenna here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/Jennacummings

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter.


Connect with Margo here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/margokahnrose/

Check out Skai here - https://skai.io/

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Today's episode was hosted by Jenna Cummings.

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you. 

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

Crocs Are(n't) Cool, The Top 3 Challenger Themes for 2022 - Scratch Special14 Dec 202200:33:26

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. In today's episode, we record at our first live event (Zag Out) and wrap up the top Challenger themes of the year and what the key takeaways are for your brand. It was an incredible conversation in front of a live audience and we debated everything from if Crocs are cool or not to if we should be investing in Pickleball... tune in for a special Scratch this week!

Links to stories/topics discussed:

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How to Build a Unicorn with Richard Davies of Allica Bank07 Dec 202200:42:00

In this week’s episode, Eric talks with Richard Davies, CEO of Allica Bank and ex CEO of Revolut and OakNorth. Richard has helped build three unicorn challengers in the fintech space (the third being as a non-exec for World Remit), but he’s also spent time at big incumbent banks. He has a unique perspective on not only what it takes to build a unicorn, but also what the biggest differences are between how incumbents and challengers go to market and approach growth. Eric and Richard also dig into effective org design models for product and marketing teams and how the Spotify squad model has had a big impact on how he’s approached building teams. Read more here - https://productschool.com/blog/product-management-2/spotify-model-scaling-agile/


Connect with Richard here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-davies-1323b2/

Check out Allica here - https://www.allica.bank/

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Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How to Institutionalise Innovation with Maja Neable of BMO30 Nov 202200:36:52

In this week’s episode, Eric talks to Maja Neable, Senior Vice President, Chief Marketing Officer Banking & Chief Data & Analytics Officer at BMO Financial Group about let’s say… one of the more innovative marketing campaigns we’ve seen recently! In spring 2022 BMO decided to tap in to the gaming community by creating a discord to help educate and advice this community on personal finance matters. 

There is a lot of insight into how you create an innovative environment for your team, and how to navigate meet your customers where they are - they might even be on the discord!

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing consultancy that builds challenger brands, strategies, and capabilities to change categories. Today's episode was produced by Leanne Kilroy and hosted by Eric Fulwiler. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

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Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How Digital Banks Can Cross Over to the Physical World With Coenraad Jonker, Co-Founder and CEO, Tyme Bank23 Nov 202200:55:06

Welcome to another episode of Scratch! In this week's episode Eric Fulwiler is joined by Coenraad Jonker, Co Founder & CEO of Tyme Bank, the leading challenger bank in South Africa with 6 million customers. 

Tyme has just expanded in the Philippines to help 52.1 million unbanked citizens. At Singapore Fintech Festival, our conversation covered the origin of Tyme, how they built a successful challenger product and brand and how they plan to become a true rival brand. 

This is a fascinating conversation, tune in!

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How to Get Marketing a Bigger Seat at the Table with Allison MacLeod CMO of Flywire16 Nov 202200:58:51

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Today's episode was produced by Leanne Kilroy and hosted by Eric Fulwiler. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler.

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you. 

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How to develop the non-marketing skills needed to be a CMO with Mosala Phillips of Old Mutual Limited09 Nov 202200:31:46

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Today's episode was produced by Leanne Kilroy and hosted by Eric Fulwiler. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler.

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you. 

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How to grow a business at the right cost, not all costs with Rand Fishkin of SparkToro02 Nov 202200:42:23

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Today's episode was produced by Leanne Kilroy and hosted by Eric Fulwiler. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

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Say hi at 

media@wearerival.com

, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How to market the future with Rob Miller of HyperloopTT19 Oct 202200:39:57

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Today's episode was produced by Leanne Kilroy and hosted by Eric Fulwiler. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler.

Say hi at 

media@wearerival.com

, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How to create purpose-driven branding with David Aaker of Prophet05 Oct 202200:42:25

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In this week's episode, DuBose talks to David Aaker, Vice Chairman at Prophet. David is a legend in this field, and he shares his knowledge on creating a strong brand purpose for your company, no matter what you offer. Can all brands have a social purpose? Does work across different sectors and where do you even start looking for what fits your brand?

To find out more and to connect with David Aaker, follow the links below:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidaaker/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/DavidAaker

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AakerOnBrands

Hashtag: #AakeronBrands

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Today's episode was produced by Hanna Samuelson and hosted by DuBose Cole. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find DuBose on LinkedIn and tweet him @dubosecole.

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

The $100Bn Secret for Marketing Chinese Brands with the Ex-CMO of Huawei & Didi01 May 202400:49:16

In this episode, we talk with Andrew Garrihy — The CMO Coach (https://cmocoach.co/), an international marketing leader and executive coach who specialises in helping CMOs lead with clarity, confidence and courage. A veteran global CMO who spent several years working in senior marketing roles at major Chinese companies like Huawei and Didi. Andrew shares his fascinating experiences navigating the complexities of Chinese business culture as a Western executive. He provides invaluable insights into understanding the mindset and values that shape the Chinese professional environment, such as the emphasis on collective wisdom, respect for hierarchy, and the relentless pursuit of progress.

He walks us through the "agile marketing" framework he implemented at Huawei, where they would launch around 50 new smartphone products per year, with about 3 being major flagship launches that required launching across 15 European countries, with only 90 days to plan and execute on all campaigns. This approach included long-term strategic planning with extreme agility, continual testing, and dedicated innovation budgets. Andrew also talks about his new passion project, the CMO Coach, which aims to provide mentorship to emerging marketing leaders to maximize their potential.

Watch the video version of this podcast on Youtube ▶️: https://youtu.be/mmRPhJxDZb8

📚 Chapters:

  • (00:00:00) - Intro
  • (00:07:00) - Andrew's Background 🎒
  • (00:08:30) - What Led Andrew to China 🇨🇳
  • (00:14:40) - The Culture Map - How to Thrive in Other Cultures?
  • (00:15:55) - How to Thrive in Chinese Culture?
  • (00:23:38) - How Do You Build a Brand in the Chinese Market? 📈
  • (00:34:39) - How Did Andrew Really Make It Work?
  • (00:40:03) - What Is the CMO Coach? 🧑‍🏫
  • (00:45:30) - Lightning Round ⚡
  • (00:46:00) - Best Career Advice
  • (00:46:10) - Marketing Pet Peeve
  • (00:46:50) - One Marketing Tool You Can't Live Without ⚒️
  • (00:48:10) - One Thing People Should Do Differently?

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Learn more about Andrew Garrihy, The CMO Coach, who helps CMOs and marketing leaders build confidence and impact at The CMO Coach. https://cmocoach.co/

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Scratch is hosted by Eric Fulwiler, and he’s joined by Andrew Garrihy from the CMO coach in this episode.

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Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How to Adapt to Constant Change with Sam Dulka of Dubai Economy & Tourism21 Sep 202200:36:10

In this week’s episode, Eric talks to Sam Dulka, Associate Vice President of Global Business Marketing at Dubai Economy and Tourism. Tune in for a really interesting conversation about how Dubai has established itself as a challenger brand in the last few years and how you have to find channels of meaningful influence with the audience you are trying to reach. The team at Dubai tourism think of Dubai as a product, relating it back to Apple but with different features. There are some really good pieces around adapting to change and why all marketers have to keep this in mind. Enjoy, and let us know what you think!

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Today's episode was produced by Leanne Kilroy and hosted by Eric Fulwiler. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler.

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you.

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How to Build a Customer-Centric Marketing Strategy with John Sheldon of SmileDirectClub07 Sep 202200:42:28

In this week’s episode, Eric talks to John Sheldon, CMO of challenger brand SmileDirectClub and owner of one of the best Linkedin headers we’ve seen…John describes himself as a “CMO and innovation Leader, a customer data 'truffle pig', and someone who’s focused on creating irrational brand love.” Love it. There’s a TON of great advice and insight in this episode on what it takes to not just build a successful challenger brand, but also build a successful challenger marketing team. Hint: it all comes down to how well you understand and can consistently deliver on the needs of your customer…

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing consultancy that builds challenger brands, strategies, and capabilities to change categories. Today's episode was produced by Leanne Kilroy and hosted by Eric Fulwiler.

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler.

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you. 

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How to Own a Point of Differentiation in a Crowded Market with Grant Johnson of Emburse10 Aug 202200:43:14

Learn more about how to stand out and why every contact matter by listening to this week's conversation with Grant Johnson of Emburse.

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Today's episode was produced by Leanne Kilroy and hosted by Eric Fulwiler. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler.

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you. 

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

How to Launch a Challenger Brand with Fiona Parfrey of Riley26 Jul 202200:41:44

Riley is a sustainable menstrual product company that operates on a subscription model, whereby individuals manage mensutral health needs, coupled with a strong B2B model, whereby companies stock period products in employee toilets. This break from the traditional in-store purchase model requires a change of culture and a destigmatisation of women’s issues and women’s health - and Riley is up for the challenge. 

Learn more at https://weareriley.com

Scratch is a production of Rival, a marketing innovation consultancy that develops strategies and capabilities that help businesses grow faster. Today's episode was produced by Leanne Kilroy and hosted by Eric Fulwiler. 

Find Rival online at www.wearerival.com, LinkedIn, Twitter

Find Eric on LinkedIn and tweet him @efulwiler.

Say hi at media@wearerival.com, we’d love to hear from you. 

Rival is a marketing consultancy for brands that want to challenge convention in their category. We’re on a mission to understand what challenger brands do differently to grow in categories that are being disrupted, and use a challenger playbook to deliver outsized impact through an integrated, tech-enabled approach. Past guests include CMOs from Mastercard, GE, Shell, Hyperloop, Adobe, PepsiCo, and Papa Johns.

If you’re interested in learning more about marketing from successful CMOs, we compiled a list of the top 5 CMO podcasts to listen to in 2024; check it out here 🔗  https://www.wearerival.com/content-hub-articles/cmo-podcasts-you-cannot-afford-to-miss-in-2024

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