SageTalking – Détails, épisodes et analyse

Ange Chakana is a permaculture & Montessori school teacher as well as a forest educator.

She was also one of my own teachers during my Permaculture Design Course this summer.

Ange started Earth Keepers camps two years ago after leaving the US and struggling to find good ways to teach permaculture to children in the school system.

We speak about how permaculture is so much more than just land management but a pathfinder and guide in life that allows us to (re-)connect to ourselves, our roots, our skills and abilities which

is so transformative in a majorly disconnected world where many humans suffer from “mistaken identities”.

Permaculture is about a shift in vocabulary, a shift in language, a shift in the way we relate to ourselves and the world around us.

We speak about the capacity, the capabilities we have as people to take responsibility and actively BE the living, breathing, tangible, local transformations, each and every one of us in our own rights.

“I think that’s what is needed right now, that we move from being consumer driven to being PRODUCERS and also to realize our ECOLOGICAL IDENTITY.”

-starting by questioning our actions and the ways we are living our lives.

We explore the question of why “sitting in silence together and deep listening in community has the potential to transform societies”.

Ange also shares some practical ways to re-connect, to engage in permaculture, one of them being to live with the seasons – and helps us understand better how we can do this.

To experience Ange’s offering for permaculture kids courses visit her website https://www.earthkeepers-camps.org/ or send her a mail for more information as well as offers for adult courses and learning at info@earthkeepers-camps.org

PS if the story Ange shared about the community intersection in Portland you can find more information about this or inspiration and support for transforming your home town here https://cityrepair.org/

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which came alive through the voices of

Ange Chakana

and your host Stella Sage

This episode features Andreas Koch, founder of Tourythm which is about creating a new rhythm in the tourism industry to help the people in it to regenerate the world and themselves.

A business sector that needs a lot of impulses towards more conscious, earth-aligned practices – the travel and tourism industry -which produces 10 % of GDP and employs 10 % of humans on the planet.

Andreas works with hotel Teams to become more sustainable from the ground up.

Being holistic and inclusive he connects the localities, local businesses, farmers etc. with hotels or event sites to help weave a web of interconnection and mutual support.

Inviting farmers to join forces with hotels to create events in collaboration that may include regenerative wine/olive oil tastings or bringing hotels together with engineering experts to redesign energy flows.

“Sustainability may mean, doing less harm to nature. Where we want something of a balance sheet between economic, social and ecological activities –

and I feel that is not enough. […]The system is asking for change. […] I always describe climate change as being burnout on the outer and depression on the inner landscape. When I heard about regeneration, about permaculture, I felt as a biologist this is something I can apply to the economic world.”

A sustainable hotel for Andreas is one where every relationship inside and outside the hotel, everything that it is connected with (infrastructure, food, suppliers, cleaning, personnel,…) feels regenerative.

-Employees as ambassadors for regeneration

-Suppliers that regenerate the region through what they are producing

-Giving back to visitors so they feel regenerated and can relax and renew in meaningful ways

and so much more.

We talk about what resilience looks like in this industry and why creating redundancies is important,

exploring questions like: “how can we serve not just the clients but also the employees, the land, the culture..?”

💡 Andreas' TIP: Explore socialbnb, traveling to unique accommodations around the world that support local projects, communities and ecosystems for your next meaningful holiday.

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which came alive through the voices of

Andreas Koch

and your host Stella Sage 🌿

Four extraordinary days in the Engiadin Valley in La Punt, Switzerland.

Nestled in between mountains, next to a river where cool, clear water flows steadily is where [y]our2040 found its place for the third time since 2020.

I was so very blessed to be part of the Team that delivered [y]our2040 in the summer of 2023 and it had me absolutely hooked.

Four days of incredible conversations around all topics mainly centered around regeneration.

Regeneration of communities, natural habitats, connections, communication, spirit, systems, oceans, soils, economies...

Critical, challenging, loving, discussions and sharing of opinions.

Around 100 participants coming together to work on over 10 different projects that should serve a regenerative purpose, carried out and nurtured far beyond the gathering.

Music in the background, painting, writing, dancing, laughter, tears, ideas.

People from different backgrounds with different mind sets and visions, yet at a closer look fundamentally similar, walking barefoot from one tent to the next, forming a community that feels like family after only a couple of days.

I recorded tiny live conversation snippets with about 30 people to put them together into one episode that explores the outlooks on the concept of regeneration that must be central to our present and future actions.

One word, many interpretations.

This is explored in this episode of SageTalking with a foreword from one of the founders, Jonelle Simunich 🌱

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which came alive through the voices of

participants of the [y]our2040 gathering

and your host Stella Sage🌿

Tobias Luthe is a professor at ETH Zurich, teaching in the fields of resilience and complex systems, systemic design and regenerative systems, traveling and adventuring through different countries and landscapes.

Powered by a passion for outdoor sports, exploration and the active participation in regeneration.

Tobias grew up in a very natural setting, immersed in nature and being introduced to building, making firewood and winter sports in particular in his childhood, setting a foundation of deep trust in one self and life, described as "Urvertrauen" (deep trust) in the German language.

Tobias recognizes that this groundedness set him up to be creative, adventurous and entrepreneurial as an important skill set when engaging in regeneration.

In this episode we also touch on his work at Mon Viso Institute in the Italian Alps in the village of Ostana which is a University Mountain Campus acting as a real world lab in the fields of sustainability and regeneration.

Tobias shares a story of accidental de-generation of soil at the Campus and the journey of learning, questioning and exploring that never stops and highlights the importance of "playing in the un-plannability of the real world"🌍🌿

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which came alive through the voices of

Tobias Luthe

and your host Stella Sage🌿

Who we are as people, how we feel and receive ourselves, the state of our health, purpose, connection to nature and community determines our interactions, beliefs, choices in regards to the ways we act towards earth, other people etc.

Nathan Maingard describes himself as having been a misfit in our society at a young age.

Not fitting into the boxes that school, society, government, predetermined, which all seemed a skin too tight for him.

In this episode he shares how he transformed from thinking he was the problem, acting out and feeling out of place, to living his truth and supporting other people in that journey as well.

We reflect on the way many of us feel out of place or forced into structures and the fallacy of "this is just the way things are".

Nathan argues that we ARE ALL already FREE.

That with the decisions to show up for ourselves and making choices from the moment we get up in the morning that set ourselves up for peace and well-being, we are freeing ourselves.

There is a place for everyone to bring value to themselves and community. We need to foster a society and atmosphere that let's everyone contribute, because everyone CAN. There is no useless or valueless person. We all have hands, feet, mouths, eyes, ears and brains to use.

Each in their own way and we must let go of the constraints that say that there are only certain predetermined and economically imposed ideas that determine which inputs are worth anything.

This way we can let go of feelings of uselessness of not being enough of being "misfits" in a society of essentially a majority of "misfits" that are struggling along, working against themselves and natural cycles and rhythms.

"people sitting around a fire with their families, who are at peace with themselves, who have purpose and connection and live with the rhythms of nature won't even look up to listen to that pained, disconnected person coming along, proposing to start a war or plunder another family's home."

The ME reflects the WE and it starts with I 🌱

We are 100 % capable of creating a different reality and making change one person, one family, one community, one city, one nation, one world....at a time -

One that flourishes and harmonizes a hell of a lot more than it does right now🌍💚

Catch up with Nathan here:

Instagram: http://instagram.com/nathanmaingard

Podcast: https://alreadyfree.me/podcast

Morning Practice Challenge: https://alreadyfree.me/yes

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which came alive through the voices of

Nathan Maingard

and your host Stella Sage🌿

John Fullerton imagines a world where we are not breaking the planet's boundaries with our economics.

He argues that we have a superbly functioning model of living systems around us, which is regenerating all the time, that we could orientate ourselves toward.

In this episode we Talk about clear design principles and processes that are important for us to consider in order to create a global regenerative economy.

To read more about John's ideas feel free to dive into the 8 principles of a regenerative economy

After a 20 year career as a managing director on Wall Street, John has seen the violence that can occur when it comes to the world of finance and business.

We Talk about the mindset shift that happened for him and his path to exploring alternatives to the neoclassical economy.

Does it work to speak to the consciousness of investors and shareholders alike?

If we offer different alternatives that align more with natural rhythms will they be welcomed or do people stick to what they know?

What does the regenerative economy look like, respecting cultural, geological and other differences?

Possibly you will find an example of a regenerative economy at your town's very own farmers market

which in John's eyes already IS the regenerative economy 🥦🍉🌼

"We're not going to have one model that everyone replicates. There will be expressions of this that will happen organically all over the world."

📣We want to encourage you to ask yourselves and family members the question: "What does a regenerative economy look like, to me?"

At first it can be a micro economy only including your own household or a small town - if you like you can go national or even global.

✉Fell free to share visions in the Q & A section of this episode

Thank you for listening to this Talk☀🌊🌍

which came alive through the voices of

John Fullerton

and your host Stella Sage🌿

The more innovative and "developed" societies become, the more complex the issues within them -

and today every issue seems to make its way to span the globe, asking for ever more complex solutions to ever more confusing problems that

seem to be well stocked.

Have we become too innovative for our own species to handle the issues that arise from all the developments?

Or have many societies reached a point of so much wealth and comfort that we are now simply creating problems? - or innovations first, that create problems to then have to solve them?

Thinking about this too long feels like mentally doing the splits on a bicycle, but me and Nelly really had the need to try and unpack this and through honest conversation get closer to some of the root causes and closer to core truths (if there are any).

*disclaimer here: many issues touched on in this podcast might be misinterpreted, not all you say in a flow of conversation is completely 100 % refined and planned or will be understood by a third party exactly as it was meant since use of language differs and is spontaneous in a flow of conversation + just because we don't agree with the craziness, confusion and division sown around different topics does not mean we don't agree they are generally important or that all people (unless they show they deserve otherwise) should be treated with respect and kindness*

We touch on the topics like political correctness and political affiliation, identity markers and the issues that arise form putting people into categories and boxes that overlook all other facets and nuances that we humans bring with us.

We try to discover if it were the case that we could strap away much of the BS and generally treat one another and earth with respect - could we begin focusing on the things we KNOW fulfil the basic, biological needs of human beings, the things that are important to ALL of us...?

🎨👨🏼‍🌾👩🏼‍🌾community, collaboration, working and living with the rhythms of nature, connection, intellectual pursuit and conversation, creativity, self-sufficiency, family, realization of physical and intellectual potential, exploration...🥗🍉🥦🌳🥀

We invite you to try and listen to this Talk as a neutral observer - to see where it takes all of us and not let it quickly confirm a bias or highlight disagreement -- then literally or figuratively open your eyes at the end of the Talk and see where your mind is at and which pathways of thinking it has taken you on🌼

maybe this approach could be an antidote for all of us in this time where quick judgement and narrow categorization of people and information is very prevalent

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which came alive through the voices of

Nelly Cyprichova

and your host Stella Sage🌿

Marc Buckley is the founder of ALOHAS Regenerative Foundation, an Ecological Economist, Regenerative Futurist, and Solarpunk.

He wrote the SDG Manifesto for the United Nations and has been working with the UNFCCC since 2019 on the next set of goals that come after the SDG’s the Resilient Development Goals through UNFCCC and Resilience Frontiers.

Marc takes a systems view of life and addresses all facets of complex systems in order to solve human suffering and our global grand challenges. As a longtime student of Ecological Economics, Regenerative Futurism, and Systems Science Marc has been involved in Climate and Environmentalism for a long time and would love to show you how to run faster than climate change by being an impactful and exponential human being.

One of the first to be trained by Al Gore as a Climate Speaker he has made getting through the Climate Crisis towards Regenerative Desirable Futures his life‘s work.

On top of all of this I have found Marc to be an extremely likeable, humble person who is genuine to the core.

In this episode we unpack many different questions (as it seems there is nothing you can’t talk about with him when it comes to environmental issues;)

...from the way he structures his days being involved in so many different projects and tasks at the same time, to the question of which ways of farming are the ones going forward, a short history of mankind and what it looks like inside the World Economic Forum or the United Nations –

We made sure there is something of interest for everyone.

One of the main motivators for Marc to be an active participate in changing some of the ways the world functions was the realization that most of the systems in place today create emissions, food scarcity and malnutrition, poverty, bad economic models and policies and suffering.

Every day he sets out to change that and he is optimistic about the powerful, positive impacts humans can have once they set out to create systems that are conducive to a thriving existence on planet earth.

Thank you for listening to this Talk🌊🌍☀

which came alive through the voices of

Marc Buckley

and your host Stella Sage🌿

"The fashion industry is better than other industries at covering up how polluting it actually is.

It is a massive marketing machine and very good at selling you things you don't need - shaping ideas of desire and beauty."

~ Kiki Boreel

The fashion industry is one of the most polluting industries in the world, in terms of water, air and soil pollution.

Their annual greenhouse gas emissions of 2.1 billion even top those of the entire tech-industry.

The devastating destruction left in the wake of manufacturing masses of clothing by ruining land and water, depleting resources,

spreading dangerous chemicals and microplastics and mistreating and virtually enslaving workers - is nothing short of abysmal, not least to say un -intelligent, wasteful and unnecessary.

Kiki Boreel has joined me for another episode after the first Talk she created with me "Kiki Boreel Talks Climate Crisis and Fashion Industry"

She recently visited Copenhagen Fashion Week which is also called "Sustainable Fashion Week", requiring brands to fulfill certain minimum standards

in order to be able to present their clothing at the show, which is a novelty in the industry.

Kiki has gone through a big transformation from jetting around the world, modeling for all kinds of brands to

convincing her colleagues that taking a train to Scotland instead of flying is superior because of the beautiful scenery you don't get to see on the plane ; ) -

making it mission to gain knowledge and expertise on all things regarding sustainable fashion,

sharing her views about the changes that would be critical to make at the current time to knock fast fashion down a peg and make room

for a slower and more conscious way of wearing and consuming clothing.

Thank you for listening to this Talk☀🌊🌍

which came alive through the voices of

Kiki Boreel

and your host Stella Sage🌿

I met Natascha at the [y]our2040 gathering in Switzerland in June this year

and spoke to her for a short interview where I found out that she had been part of the Exxpedition Atlantic crossing and wanted to know

more about it.

Somehow we managed to also discuss differing opinions on feminism and identity politics and the value of common decency which just

made it all the more interesting : )

Exxpedition is an all women's sailing voyage across different parts of the world's oceans where the participants collect data, mainly about plastics in the oceans with the help of trained professionals, founded by the skipper and ocean advocate Emily Penn.

Natascha shares her memories from this three week voyage and the experiences and learnings that she had out on the water.

Natascha is an outspoken feminist and wants to do her part to contribute to a whole and more just world in different ways.

We open up a conversation about the meaning of feminism and other labels that people tend to give themselves and sometimes even feel obligated to.

We try to get closer to the reasons for division and occasional misuses of different words and phrases and if they should even be as important as

they are made out to be in today's "hyper aware and correct" political climate.

This conversation touches on many different issues and thoughts that we feel should be discussed openly and in respectful manners - much more so without "cancelling" one another but rather inviting in discourse, trying to open ourselves up to different view points and realities.

Like the currents of the ocean we let this conversation flow in different directions and we hope you enjoy this Talk🌊

Thank you for listening to this Talk☀🌍🌊

which came alive through the voices of

Natascha Glanzer-Fürst

and your host Stella Sage🌿