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The Nations Championship is one week away, so David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie run the ruler over every squad and storyline before an enormous November. There’s concern about the format and tie-breakers, plus a big look at who’s trending up or down: can Wales survive their off-field chaos, can Italy rediscover last year’s spark, and are Ireland slipping before they climb again? England’s pressure is front and centre ahead of Australia first up, with the warning that Japan can become a nasty banana skin if teams rotate. The All Blacks are backed to win all three, but there’s a blunt chat about “inconvenient conversations” and the areas that can still bite them. South Africa’s selections scream long-game planning, while France’s second-round showdown looms large.

PLUS: WXV, Samoa’s governance mess, and a big Monday preview with Ben Youngs and Steven Kitshoff.

Also in this episode:

● Nations Championship tables, pools, and who tops them

● Steve Hansen flags format flaws and tie-break concerns

● England v Australia pressure, selections, and banana skin risks

● All Blacks injuries, Scotty Barrett impact, and lineout worries

● Springboks squad rotation as Rassie plans ahead

● WXV final round, USA v England, Black Ferns v France

PLUS: How tours, injuries and club calendars shape performance windows.

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Canada have done it again, beating England 31–22 in Ottawa to win the series and defend the Utrecht Shield, and the big question now is what John Mitchell does next with selections, standards, and motivation. David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie unpack how Canada used width, tempo and intent to expose an England side that looked disjointed, despite still having their World Cup-winning tools in isolation. The conversation then swings to the Wallaroos’ 38–31 win over Scotland, where a “greatest hits” of yellow cards and reviews derailed the spectacle and raised bigger questions about common sense, coaching technique, and who’s really in charge of the system. There’s also Black Ferns 31–12 France, Australia A v USA in Nashville, PWR eligibility debates, scrum refereeing in the URC, and what’s next for Eddie Jones and Japan after Fiji’s 34–28 win.

Also in this episode:

● Canada’s width and tap try undo England

● Steve Hansen on motivation: it must come from players

● England selections and “serious conversations” after losses

● Wallaroos v Scotland: yellow cards wreck the flow

● PWR player limits and local development pathways

● Mark Nawaqanitawase, Les Kiss, and Wallabies priorities

PLUS: A wider debate on test windows, player availability, and whether international rugby should lead the global season.

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David Pembroke is back on deck and kicks off with a rare look inside the coach’s head, asking Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie what it really takes to stay steady when results swing. From “performance not win or lose” to the brutal Monday-morning demand for answers, they lay out the habits that keep teams improving. The chat then shifts to the upcoming World Rugby coaches meeting in Windsor ahead of Rugby World Cup 2027, with both men zeroing in on the impact of yellow cards, TMO influence, and rugby’s “secret society” problem on communication. On the field, the panel previews WXV and key internationals: Wallaroos v Scotland in Canberra, Black Ferns v France in Whangārei, and the Canada v England decider in Ottawa with the Utrecht Shield on the line. Plus Eddie Jones’ Japan v Fiji (with Jake White), and a big debate on Australia’s playmaking talent and retaining young prospects.

Also in this episode:

● Steve Hansen on competitiveness as a coaching weakness

● Ewen McKenzie: Monday morning means having solutions ready

● World Rugby Windsor meeting: simplify laws and improve communication

● Yellow cards and TMO influence reshaping results unfairly

● WXV focus: Wallaroos v Scotland, Black Ferns v France

● Canada v England decider, Utrecht Shield on the line

PLUS: A blunt look at how Australia can stop losing talent to league and overseas by building real relationships.

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The Wallabies wear another heavy loss to New Zealand, and David Pembroke, Ewen McKenzie and Steve Hansen don’t sugar-coat it: a brutal first half, too much aimless kicking, and not enough composure when Australia finally had phases to build pressure. Hansen loves what he’s seeing from the All Blacks attack, offloads, line running, and forwards playing into space, while McKenzie highlights key moments like Harry Wilson’s grubber into touch as a snapshot of game management and leadership under pressure. The TMO becomes its own storyline too, especially the Roigard incident, with all three questioning what “foul play” even means now. They also get into the deeper Wallabies problems, the missing world class 10 and a ball-playing 12, and why New Zealand fans want Australia strong again. Then it’s WXV: Black Ferns smash France 81-12, Canada pinch it late against England 24-21 to end England’s unbeaten run, and the USA keep building momentum.

Also in this episode:

● All Blacks offloads and handling under extreme pressure

● Wallabies leadership, huddles, and “stay steady Eddie” moments

● Meredith at 10: rocks and diamonds, but a crack

● TMO involvement and the Roigard-Meredith controversy

● WXV: Canada upset England in front of 18,600

● Future comps: Nations Championship talks and Super Rugby formats

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David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie rip into the biggest talking point from All Blacks v Wallabies: Eddie Jones’ effort stats, and what they really say about mindset, speed off the ground, and being ready for the next job. With the Wallabies’ No.10 curse biting again and another reshuffle coming, the trio run the ruler over the 23, the risks around combinations, and what has to change to keep New Zealand honest. The All Blacks changes get the same treatment, including the excitement factor of Timoci Tavatavanawai. There’s also a straight-shooting discussion on Mark Nawaqanitawase’s rugby return, the manager-led noise about Fiji and Italy eligibility, and what Rugby Australia and Les Kiss should do next. Plus a big women’s rugby weekend and a fast, practical look at the Investec Champions Cup and EPCR Challenge Cup match list.

Also in this episode:

● Eddie Jones’ effort statistics and what they measure

● Wallabies squad changes: Meredith in, Donaldson out

● All Blacks depth and injury cover, Hansen’s take

● Mark Nawaqanitawase eligibility debate: Australia, Fiji, Italy

● Black Ferns v France series and Wallaroos v Scotland

● Champions Cup and Challenge Cup fixtures across Europe

PLUS: What “possession” and adaptable tactics really mean against the All Blacks.

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David Pembroke, Ewen McKenzie and Steve Hansen break down the All Blacks’ 50-19 win over Australia at Eden Park, and why the match swung hard after Australia’s strong opening. They dig into what New Zealand fixed fast: high ball catches, maul defence, breakdown support, and a second-half lineout lift, plus how Australia’s plan to target McKenzie and use Sua'ali'i early simply evaporated. The big talking point: the Wallabies’ box kicking and lack of plan B, and what changes before Sydney with the Bledisloe already gone. The chat widens to deeper issues in Australian rugby: pathways, depth, contracts, competition structure, and the ongoing problem at 10, with Carter Gordon central to the future. Plus: refereeing boundaries, TMO stoppages, laws that need simplifying, and how World Rugby can better grow the game beyond the Nations Cup tiers.

Also in this episode:

● All Blacks high ball improvements punish Australia’s tactic

● Wallabies lose momentum after McKenzie sparks first try

● Australia’s box kicking hands New Zealand easy counterattack

● Depth and bench quality gap exposed between squads

● Refereeing, TMO stoppages, and law simplification debate

● Nations Cup growth, fixtures for emerging unions, Brazil support

PLUS: A look at the Raeburn Shield, Argentina hiring Sean Edwards, and Fiji’s reported Jake White move.

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The Bledisloe Cup is back for 2026, and David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie lay out why this one feels bigger than usual: Australia have stacked wins, interest is spiking again, and Eden Park is waiting. The lads break down the teams and the key battlegrounds, from set piece and lineout pressure to the aerial contest around Sua’ali’i and the impact of Scott Barrett returning. Hansen explains why New Zealand cherish the trophy and why nobody wants to be the team that hands it back, while McKenzie details what Australia must do at the breakdown and on the advantage line to stay in the fight. There’s also a sharp chat on refereeing, TMO risk, the nines battle (Roigard vs Lonergan), and a fiery debate on RUPA’s World Cup hosting-fee comments.

Also in this episode:

● What the Bledisloe Cup means in Australia and NZ

● Wallabies selection: bench depth concerns without Tupou, Hooper

● All Blacks selection: Scott Barrett start and lineout calling

● Tactical focus: aerial contest targeting McKenzie, Jordan, Carter

● Bigger picture: Australian rugby momentum and bandwagon risk

● RUPA dispute and World Rugby’s global season roadblocks

PLUS: The panel answers audience questions on Jorgensen at 10 and why World Rugby is pushing into the USA market.

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With one year to go until Rugby World Cup 2027 in Australia, David Pembroke sits down with Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie to talk hype, tickets, fan energy, and what teams should actually be doing 12 months out. The chat gets practical fast: hotels, training bases, travel, preparation windows, and why there’s no single World Cup formula. Then it’s onto the Bledisloe Cup with both squads named, key ins and outs, and the depth questions that still hang over certain positions. The crew also tackles the Paisami ban and what it says about post-match judiciary versus in-game disruption, before widening the lens to refereeing transparency, law complexity, and World Rugby communication. Eddie Jones gets a mention for how tours get used to fill every spare minute, and there’s plenty on what good selection really looks like beyond a weekend highlight reel.

Also in this episode:

● Rugby World Cup 2027 ticket numbers and overseas demand

● Steve Hansen on one-year-out squad planning and mindset

● Ewen McKenzie on World Cup logistics, venues, and travel

● Bledisloe Cup squads: Frizell in, Love out, Taylor captaincy

● Paisami ban debate and the role of the judiciary

● Refereeing transparency, law complexity, and World Rugby comms

PLUS: What it takes to build a stronger top 20 and why Nations Cup-style competitions matter.

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The Wallabies beat the Springboks in Perth, and David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie break down how Australia did it, why Sua'ali'i looked far more influential on the wing, and what it means heading into the Bledisloe Cup and the Nations Championship. The panel praise Australia’s aerial contest, breakdown fight, midfield running lines, and key moments like Donaldson’s try set-up and Wilson’s lineout impact, while questioning what South Africa learned from 13 changes and a shift away from their usual formula. Then it turns to the last 15 minutes: head contact, yellow cards, TMO involvement, and a communications failure that made 15 v 11 feel like a farce. The conversation expands into WXV with the Red Roses edging the Black Ferns at Twickenham, France beating Canada 21-5 in La Rochelle, and the wider concerns around integrity, stoppages, and what World Rugby needs to fix with a year to go.

Also in this episode:

● Wallabies match Springbok physicality and win aerial battle

● Sua'ali'i on the wing unlocks freedom and influence

● South Africa stray from their formula despite 13 changes

● Yellow cards, head contact, and TMO protocols slammed

● Red Roses beat Black Ferns in thriller at Twickenham

● France topple Canada 21-5 as WXV tightens

PLUS: With a year to go, the panel demand leadership from World Rugby on safety, integrity, and keeping 15 v 15.

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Rassie Erasmus has named a Springboks side with 13 changes for Perth, and it’s sparked the big question: is this a golden Wallabies opportunity, or just another Springbok test of depth? David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie go straight to selection, match plan, and where Australia can realistically hurt South Africa, from scrum and lineout pressure to the aerial contest with Sua'ali'i moved to the wing. There’s plenty on Les Kiss’ first big selection call, Donaldson’s chance at 10, and why both Hansen and McKenzie see a path to an Australian win, while Pembroke backs the Boks’ depth, Pollard’s control, and bench impact. The episode also shifts to the women’s game with WXV: England v New Zealand at Twickenham, France v Canada, Scotland v Australia, and why governance and speed of decision-making are now make-or-break for rugby.

Also in this episode:

● Steve Hansen explains how coaches think about selection

● Ewen McKenzie on charting selections to avoid emotion

● Wallabies tactics: attack Springboks strengths at set-piece

● Sua'ali'i wing move: aerial threats and roaming licence

● WXV preview: England v New Zealand at Twickenham

● Rugby governance debate: faster decisions, simpler product

PLUS: What rugby can learn from the NBA, NRL and AFL on agility, marketing, and keeping fans.

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David Pembroke is joined by a special guest, two-time Springbok World Cup-winning prop Steven Kitshoff from For the Love of Rugby South Africa, alongside Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie, for a wide-ranging Rugby Unity chat that hits the biggest talking points fast. The crew open on a huge weekend of women’s internationals, including France vs Australia with a stack of cards, plus the Black Ferns cruising past Scotland, the 26-all Canada vs England draw, and Eddie Jones’ Japan beating Fiji in Tokyo. Then it gets blunt: the bunker system, TMO influence, and how yellow cards are changing the spectacle. From there it’s into scrums and the “brake foot”, with Kitshoff explaining why it’s uncomfortable, inconsistent, and unsafe. Finally, the focus shifts to the Springboks: reflections on the All Blacks tour, Rassie’s core group, managing veteran stars, and a full preview of Sunday’s Springboks vs Wallabies in Perth, including what Australia must do to challenge the world’s best.

Also in this episode:

● Women’s rugby recap: France vs Australia officiating chaos

● Steven Kitshoff on bunker yellow cards and TMOs

● Debate over scrums and the “brake foot” safety

● Springboks-All Blacks tour reflections and series impact

● Managing older World Cup players and training loads

● Perth preview: Springboks vs Wallabies tactics and selections

PLUS: How winning teams build depth, standards, and daily competitiveness.

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New Zealand Rugby has fired a serious warning shot: forecast losses of $66 million over five years, and a structure they say is unsustainable, even after banking $9 million from Baltimore. David Pembroke and Ewen McKenzie argue the game cannot keep operating in fragments, and ask what comes next: more All Blacks tests offshore, a Miami Rugby Championship match, or even a radical 2029 Lions series across Melbourne, Sydney, Auckland, Los Angeles and New York. They also preview the Ashi Super Dry Pacific Nations Championship final in Tokyo, tipping Japan to beat Fiji, plus USA v Canada in the double header. Then it’s a massive weekend for women’s rugby: England v Canada at Sandy Park, Australia backing up against France, Black Ferns v Scotland, and more, with World XV matches in Hong Kong feeding into 2029 Rugby World Cup qualification.

Also in this episode:

● Steve Hansen absent with new Manly Sea Eagles role 

● World Rugby’s role questioned in NZR talks 

● Ireland and Six Nations USA match speculation discussed 

● Top 14 notes: Toulouse big win, La Rochelle form 

● Wallabies squad picked by Les Kiss, flyhalf debate 

● Refereeing, TMO momentum, and law interpretations debated 

PLUS: The panel weighs tradition, fan connection, and commercial realities as rugby’s global calendar keeps shifting.

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Baltimore delivered a classic as the Springboks beat the All Blacks 43-28 to seal the series 3-1, and David Pembroke is joined by Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie to pull apart what swung it. The panel praises South Africa’s basics, defence, scramble, high-ball dominance and ruthless lineout-maul strike, while picking through where New Zealand can close the gap, from ball into contact, breakdown speed and scrum pressure on Springbok ball to stopping the maul and finding more direct options. There’s also real heat on refereeing interpretations, “brake foot” scrum calls, and a TMO comms mess that stalled momentum and left everyone looking silly. Away from the Test, Hansen explains his new high performance director role at Manly-Warringah in the NRL, plus quick hits on the Pacific Nations Cup semis (and Eddie Jones on Canada), and standout results from the Mitsubishi Electric WXV Global Series.

Also in this episode:

● Steve Hansen joins Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles as high performance director 

● Springboks win 43-28, claim series 3-1 in Baltimore 

● All Blacks work-ons: maul defence, scrum pressure, high ball 

● Refereeing debates: break foot calls and Northern Hemisphere interpretations 

● TMO communication breakdown and frustrations with stoppages 

● Pacific Nations Cup and WXV results, key players praised 

PLUS: Big-picture chat on pathways, club rugby connection, agents, and funding pressures.

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World Rugby’s strategic plan gets a real-time test this weekend, with the All Blacks and Springboks taking their rivalry to Baltimore, and the WXV Global Series and Challenger Series launching across Europe and Hong Kong. David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie break down why the USA push matters, what rugby can learn from the NFL’s Melbourne event, and how travel could shape the fourth match of the series. The big question: can the All Blacks’ heavily changed side find enough against a Springboks team that’s largely unchanged, and can New Zealand fix a lineout that’s been sliding under South African pressure? The panel digs into maul defence, tempo, breakdown interpretations, and the refereeing profile of Karl Dickson. Then it’s full focus on WXV: England v Australia in Salford, Scotland v Canada, and France v New Zealand in Lyon, plus Pacific Nations Cup fixtures and Hall of Fame news.

Also in this episode:

● World Rugby strategic plan activated: USA and women’s rugby

● All Blacks team changes explained: injuries, rotation, Richie Mo’unga

● Springboks selection continuity and what it signals for the series

● Lineout fixes: tempo, two-pod defence, and pressure on Marx

● WXV openers previewed: England v Australia, France v New Zealand

● Listener questions: referee coaching, diving acts, and breakdown grey areas

PLUS: How big events, crowds, and economics can drive rugby’s global growth.

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Springboks 29, All Blacks 24 in Soweto, and it’s the classic story: power, precision, and tiny moments. David Pembroke, Steve Hansen, and Ewen McKenzie break down how South Africa’s scrum and maul delivered when it mattered, while New Zealand’s attack was downright sublime in patches, but couldn’t quite get the set piece parity they needed. The panel digs into the turning points: missed tackles on Kriel and de Allende, key penalties, a missed shot at goal, and why the All Blacks’ composure slipped in the last 10 minutes under scoreboard pressure. There’s also a sharp look at bench impact, leadership after Ardie Savea went off, and what the All Blacks might change for Baltimore with Savea, Luke Jacobson, and Quinn Tupaea out. Plus, the women’s Test, officiating concerns, the upcoming World XV Global Series, and Australia’s flat draw with Argentina in Mendoza.

Also in this episode:

● Springboks scrum and maul decide decisive moments

● All Blacks attack sparks, but lineout ball messy

● Steve Hansen on process versus scoreboard pressure

● Bench impact: Holland, Roigard, Malcolm Marx influence

● Women’s Test: scrum, maul, and officiating debate

● Australia v Argentina draw and yellow card frustration

PLUS: Baltimore looms as rugby leans into its global advantage.

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The All Blacks and Springboks are locked at 1-1, but the noise is everywhere: the “walking around” scrum controversy, Rassie’s late team change, and what altitude at FNB Stadium really does to game plans. David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie break down the All Blacks changes (Codie Taylor out, Lakai in, Darry starting), why the Boks’ selections feel rock-solid, and what has to improve for New Zealand at the breakdown and in the aerial contest, with Malcolm Marx and Kriel central to the threat. Eddie Jones’ comments on refereeing and global “tiers” spark a wider debate, before the panel turns to Wallabies v Argentina and the impact of missing Argentine players due to Top 14. Plus: the Black Ferns v Springbok women curtain-raiser, Swys de Bruin’s resignation, and why double-headers (and even sevens) might be rugby’s smartest play.

Also in this episode:

● Scrum “walking around” debate: storm in a teacup 

● All Blacks selections: Lakai, Darry, hooker rotation explained 

● Springboks late team switch labelled a “debacle” 

● Altitude tactics: kick-off decisions and maul prevention 

● Breakdown contest and Malcolm Marx threat under Nika Amushakeli 

● Wallabies v Argentina: changes, missing stars, rankings impact 

PLUS: A bigger conversation on promoting rugby via double-headers, sevens add-ons, and growing women’s rugby audiences.

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Springboks 33, All Blacks 26 in Cape Town, and Ewen McKenzie reckons it came down to tiny moments that swung everything: a Kolbe intercept, Malcolm Marx turnovers, and South Africa banking every shot at goal while New Zealand didn’t.

David Pembroke and Ewen also dig into the selection subterfuge around Rassie naming one side and running out another, plus the scrum chat around Ox Nche “walking around” and how Angus Gardner managed the contest compared to Matthew Carley. There’s plenty for the All Blacks to fix too: lineout quality, aerial control, and whether their second-half front row deserves a start. Then it’s north to Jujuy as the Wallabies beat Argentina 27-21 in a messy one, with a forward-centric Australian attack, box-kick debates, and the importance of building a winning habit. Plus Eddie Jones’ huge call on Pieter-Steph du Toit after his 100th Test.

Also in this episode:

● Rassie names one team, fields a different one

● Kolbe intercept and Malcolm Marx turnovers decide key moments

● All Blacks lineout problems and missed chances near the line

● Angus Gardner’s breakdown calls and scrum management debate

● Wallabies 27-21 Argentina in Jujuy, scrappy and physical

● Jack Bowen leaving Waratahs for Leicester and Japan

PLUS: What ball-carry stats reveal about South Africa, New Zealand and Australia game styles.

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Cape Town is set for a backlash. The Springboks are wounded, the All Blacks are rolling, and the second Test of the greatest rivalry could swing on discipline, scrum pressure, and who handles the opening 20 minutes.

David Pembroke and Ewen McKenzie break down the Lions’ midweek push of the All Blacks, then go selection-by-selection for Springboks v All Blacks: Handre Pollard’s return, Cobus Reinach’s impact, the Kolisi fitness question, and what Ethan Hooker adds out wide. The All Blacks changes get a full run too, including Bower starting, Tupuo Vaa’i at lock, and Leroy Carter coming in with Moorby to the bench. Plus: Wallabies v Argentina in Jujuy, the Reg 9 availability mess, and a straight-shooting discussion on TMO process, replays, and post-match sighting.

Also in this episode:

● Lions nearly upset All Blacks in midweek thriller

● Rassie Erasmus looks calmer after Springboks loss

● Pollard and Reinach strengthen Springboks’ spine

● All Blacks tweaks: Bower starts, Carter in, Moorby bench

● Wallabies v Argentina preview amid Reg 9 absences

● TMO and sighting process debate after Springboks v All Blacks

PLUS: A look ahead to Rugby World Cup 2027 excitement in Sydney, plus Eddie Jones’ NPC viewing tip.

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New Zealand 1, South Africa 0, and Steve Hansen, Ewen McKenzie and David Pembroke pull apart a Test that felt on a knife-edge until the scrum flipped the night. The All Blacks’ 33–16 win (five tries to one) looks comfortable, but the big moment was South Africa turning down points for repeated scrum shots and watching momentum swing hard. The panel digs into why the Springboks couldn’t convert 22 entries, the All Blacks’ goal-line effort and ball-stripping pressure, and the fallout from injuries and HIAs. There’s plenty on bench splits, the bomb squad not firing, and what Rassie Erasmus might do at 9 and 10 next week in Cape Town. Plus: Matthew Carley’s refereeing, TMO pushback, and yellow card debates, the Black Ferns’ 66–19 win over the Wallaroos, and major updates on the UK concussion legal battle.

Also in this episode:

● Scrum dominance swung All Blacks vs Springboks momentum

● Why South Africa wasted key 22 entries

● Jordie Barrett’s big plays and leadership praise

● Rassie Erasmus’ selection dilemmas at 9 and 10

● Matthew Carley, TMO moments, and yellow card debate

● Black Ferns thrash Wallaroos, plus concussion court update

PLUS: The panel weighs depth vs experience across a brutal four-Test series.

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The Greatest Rivalry first test is on! Springboks v All Blacks in Johannesburg, with Matthew Carley in the middle and plenty of noise in the build-up. David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie dig into Rassie Erasmus’ focus on referee protocols and the breakdown narrative, and what that pressure might mean once the whistle goes. They run the selections, the bench balance, and the key tactical battlegrounds: tempo changes, advantage line wins, kick-off variations, lineout pressure on Malcolm Marx, and the discipline trap when frustration hits. There’s also a big sidebar on decision-making, why it cannot all sit on the 10, and how leaders adjust when Plan A collides with reality. Plus listener questions on Richie McCaw and Dan Carter, tour fatigue, and what really beats elite scramble defence. Finish with a look at Black Ferns v Wallaroos, Whitney Hansen’s coaching, and the growth of the women’s game.

Also in this episode:

● Rassie Erasmus and the referee protocol controversy

● Steve Hansen on All Blacks selections and injury returns

● Ewen McKenzie’s kick-off and advantage line game plan

● Breakdown, discipline, and how frustration creates penalties

● Richie McCaw and Dan Carter: mental skills and work ethic

● Black Ferns v Wallaroos preview and women’s rugby growth

PLUS: A full tactical chat on tempo, kicking, and game-day adjustments under pressure. No emojis.

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Optimism is back for the Wallabies after Townsville, with David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie liking the clarity, breakdown pressure and second-half surge against Japan, plus big ticks for Carter Gordon’s control (and nine-from-nine goal-kicking), Isaac Henry’s impact, and front-row power close to the line. The chat then pivots to the next test of progress: a two-match tour in Argentina, with Los Pumas’ style, physical edge and selection unknowns setting up a proper measuring stick. On Japan, the Eddie Jones lens is clear: pace, skill and tempo can make them a nightmare, even with size limitations. From there it’s straight into the “greatest rivalry” build-up, as the All Blacks sharpen at Loftus ahead of Ellis Park and the Springboks’ selection squeeze at 10. Plus World Rugby’s referee guidance is on the Rugby Unity Substack, and the Third Voice questions go hard.

Also in this episode:

● Wallabies breakdown turnovers flipped momentum after 51 minutes

● Carter Gordon’s game management and defence get big praise

● Isaac Henry compared to Daniel Herbert at outside centre

● All Blacks combos, scrum fixes, and Ellis Park preview

● Springboks flyhalf dilemma: Libbok, Pollard or Mngomezulu

● World Rugby referee guidance document shared via Substack

PLUS: Selection disappointment, squad culture, and speeding up rugby’s stop-start tempo.

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Ewen McKenzie is back and joins Steve Hansen and David Pembroke with a packed weekend: the All Blacks’ South Africa Greatest Rivalry tour rolls on, the Bulls load up for Loftus Versfeld, and Ma’a Nonu delivers a spine-tingling haka moment in Durban. The panel break down what stood out against the Sharks, why discipline and scrum “technicalities” are suddenly front and centre, and how the high-ball battle shapes selection for the looming Springboks Tests. Off the field, David reveals World Rugby’s new protocol for coach-referee meetings and tighter TMO involvement, including the new “If it’s gray, stay away” message. Then it’s Townsville: Les Kiss swings the axe with eight Wallabies changes ahead of Japan, coached by Eddie Jones, and the boys talk tempo control, set-piece pressure and what those new combinations mean. Plus, big-picture nerves around Super Rugby after a grim Deloitte warning.

Also in this episode:

● Ma’a Nonu answers the haka with Kapa O Pango

● All Blacks v Sharks takeaways: handling, intent, discipline

● Bulls pick stronger side for Loftus Versfeld challenge

● World Rugby ref access protocol: both coaches, five clips

● Wallabies eight changes for Japan rematch in Townsville

● Deloitte report warns Super Rugby model can’t continue

PLUS: Scrum contests, TMO boundaries, and the fight for tempo dominate selection talk.

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Cape Town kicks off the Greatest Rivalry series and David Pembroke and Steve Hansen get straight into what mattered: rust, discipline, and whether the TMO is overreaching when referees have already made the call. The All Blacks’ maul defence, scrum penalties, and a tough yellow for Anton Lienert-Brown all come under the microscope, alongside the risks of South Africa’s 6–2 bench split. Selection chat follows, including Billy Proctor’s broken shoulder blade, what it means for squad cover, and why Mo'unga talk is really about the 2027 Rugby World Cup. There’s also a look ahead to Durban v the Sharks, with Ma'a Nonu the feel-good storyline. In Part 2, the Wallabies edge Japan 35–32 in Osaka and the red card debate fires up, plus big calls on Meredith, Carter Gordon, and Joseph-Aukuso Sua'ali'i at 13. Finally, Argentina push South Africa to the line in Buenos Aires, the Raeburn Shield gets a run, and the episode closes with condolences for Simoni Vuinalagi.

Also in this episode:

● All Blacks rust, timing, and maul defence priorities

● TMO frustrations: truck and trailer and penalty try calls

● Billy Proctor injury forces changes and squad thinking

● 6–2 bench split risks for South Africa explained

● Wallabies v Japan: red card debate and No.10 options

● Argentina v South Africa: depth, kicking plan, Kolisi injury

PLUS: The 2027 Rugby World Cup lens shapes selection, style, and development.

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David Pembroke and Steve Hansen run the ruler over a massive weekend of international rugby. The All Blacks tour begins in South Africa with Stormers v All Blacks, and the chat zooms in on why Beauden Barrett looks refreshed, how opportunity really works inside a big touring squad, and what Dave Rennie will actually measure beyond the scoreboard. World Rugby’s push towards a faster, more attacking game gets a hard look, alongside fresh tension around referees, law clarity, and the reported end of pre-match coach-ref meetings. The focus then swings to Osaka where Eddie Jones’ Japan face Les Kiss’ Wallabies in brutal heat and humidity, with selections, tactics, and defence shaping the debate. There’s also South Africa v Argentina with major Pumas unavailability, plus Sevens scheduling and the cost of under-20 pathways.

Also in this episode:

● Ewen McKenzie recovering in hospital, Steve Hansen’s injuries

● Beauden Barrett’s role, mindset, and All Blacks selection pressure

● Stormers v All Blacks: young Yaqeen Ahmed and Khan threat

● World Rugby and coaches tension over pre-match referee meetings

● Eddie Jones’ Japan v Les Kiss’ Wallabies in humid Osaka

● Argentina v South Africa, plus Sevens and under-20 funding debate

PLUS: A bigger argument on how rugby balances attack, contest, and community foundations.

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A hero’s welcome for the All Blacks in Cape Town kicks off a big conversation about why touring still matters, and why the New Zealand–South Africa clash has always felt like the sport’s true “World Championship”. David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie unpack the build-up to the opener against the Stormers, the brutal reality of midweek games, and the All Blacks’ smart approach to PR, preparation and switching on at training. There’s also a close look at Rassie Erasmus taking a 26-man Springbok squad to Argentina, plus a preview of Japan v Wallabies in Osaka in serious heat and what Eddie Jones might spring to unsettle Australia under Les Kiss. Listener questions bring a straight-shooting chat on Zac Lomax leaving after a season and a half at the Force, plus a wider look at Samoa’s governance tensions and why Pacific rugby stability matters.

Also in this episode:

● All Blacks get a huge Cape Town welcome

● Touring returns, with midweek games back on

● Greatest rivalry history: All Blacks v Springboks roots

● Stormers preview and All Blacks weekly preparation plan

● Japan v Wallabies in Osaka heat, Eddie Jones tactics

● Zac Lomax, Western Force fallout, and Wallabies selection debate

PLUS: The panel also weighs Pacific rugby funding, accountability, and Samoa’s World Rugby tensions.

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David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie take stock after the first phase of the Nations Championship and Nations Cup, and the big takeaway is simple: the calendar finally has purpose. The numbers back it up too, with more tries, fewer penalties against attack, and a clear shift towards rewarding ball-in-hand rugby, while the contestable kick and maul still matter if you can get into the 22 and stay there. The conversation then swings to Australia’s two-Test series against Japan, and what life might look like under new Wallabies coach Les Kiss, including the challenge of aligning a fresh coaching group fast. And looming over everything is the main event: All Blacks v Springboks, four Tests, contrasting styles, and even Eddie Jones calling a potential 2–2 split.

Also in this episode:

● Nations Championship and Nations Cup judged a big win

● Stats show tries up, penalties down for attack

● All Blacks v Springboks: contrasting styles, four-Test series

● Les Kiss profile: collaborative, width, harmony and alignment

● Wallabies pathway debate: Super Rugby teams and depth

● Third Voice Qs: Jordie Barrett, Tupaea, Brodie Retallick

PLUS: The panel debates cohesion, selection messaging, and what makes Test rugby harder than Super Rugby.

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The Nations Championship wraps its first stanza with a mixed final round, and Rugby Unity picks through what mattered and what didn’t. David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie break down the All Blacks’ 40-21 win over Ireland, why New Zealand suddenly look connected again, and what Ireland are missing post-Sexton. France edge Japan in front of 53,000 in Tokyo, but Japan’s next step under Eddie Jones is clear: fix the scrum, tidy the errors, keep the effort. The Wallabies hammer a flat Italy in Perth, and the panel gives Joe Schmidt’s reign a blunt report card while sizing up Dave Rennie’s early surge. Scotland’s strong Nations Championship run continues against Fiji, while South Africa smash Wales 43-0 and the boys swap real coaching notes on how you actually challenge the Springboks. Then Argentina v England explodes into a record card-fest, with Angus Gardner targeted and the debate raging about deliberate knockdowns, TMO interference, and what World Rugby must simplify.

Also in this episode:

● All Blacks clarity, triple threat game, Ireland questions

● Tuipulotu standout, New Zealand straightening and line speed variation

● France v Japan: scrum dominance, yellow cards, Tokyo atmosphere

● Wallabies v Italy: maul tone-setter and Canham treble

● Springboks v Wales: kick-off tricks, aerial contest, tackle choices

● Argentina v England: record yellow cards and Angus Gardner incident

PLUS: A straight talk finish on making rugby simpler, safer, and more fun at community level.

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Eden Park. 32 years. 52 matches. The All Blacks’ fortress is on the line as Ireland roll into Auckland with a full-strength mindset, and David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie lay out exactly where this Test will be won: set piece, breakdown chaos, aerial contests and whether New Zealand’s timing and depth can beat Ireland’s line speed and ruck dark arts. There’s also a big refereeing focus with Nic Berry in the middle, plus a frank debate on scrums, quick-ball interpretations, and whether the game has made it too easy to go straight to free kicks. Off the field, World Rugby’s TMO “centre of excellence” trial sparks a proper rethink of who runs the game: the referee, the TMO, or everyone at once. Then it’s across the weekend: Japan v France in Tokyo, Wallabies v Italy in Perth, Fiji v Scotland, Springboks v Wales, and Argentina v England.

Also in this episode:

● Can Ireland break the Eden Park streak?

● New Zealand and Ireland selections, benches, and lineout clues

● Nic Berry’s refereeing style and breakdown expectations

● Scrums, free kicks, and the missing contest for possession

● World Rugby’s remote TMO trial and bunker debate

● Nations Championship previews: Japan-France, Argentina-England, Springboks-Wales

PLUS: The episode tackles travel, player welfare, and what “all in” really means for new World Rugby competitions.

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The Wallabies show up, then fade out, again. David Pembroke, Ewen McKenzie and Steve Hansen rip into what went wrong against France, why Australia’s discipline and “micro moments” keep costing them, and what Les Kiss has to fix first ahead of Japan in Osaka. There’s plenty on the tactical detail too, from France’s short kick-offs and Lucu’s passing width, to selection calls, bench impact, and why Fraser McReight looks every bit world-class. Across the ditch, the All Blacks are building momentum under Dave Rennie with tries flowing, clarity in how they want to play, and standouts like Will Jordan and Jordie Barrett driving real connection in the backline. Plus, the Nations Championship travel controversy erupts after Japan v Ireland is moved to Newcastle, and the panel takes a hard line on yellow cards deciding games.

Also in this episode:

● Why Wallabies fade after 30 minutes against France

● Lucu’s phase passing and France bending Australia’s defence

● Jorgensen tackle, TMO intervention, and momentum swings

● Fraser McReight labelled Australia’s player of the day

● All Blacks energy under Dave Rennie, nine tries v Italy

● Japan v Ireland venue switch slammed as unfair

PLUS: A big-picture look at discipline, travel, and how World Rugby protects contest integrity.

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Rugby Unity goes live from Newcastle as David Pembroke hosts Ewen McKenzie and Japan assistant coach Gary Gold ahead of Ireland v Japan, with a fundraiser for Hunter Rugby grassroots development. Gold breaks down what working under Eddie really feels like, why standards and detail drive everything, and how Japan’s “point of difference” is built on speed, ruthless recycling and repeatable performance. McKenzie sizes up Japan’s growth after beating Italy, and explains why Ireland’s reshuffled team, debutants and new combinations could open a real opportunity if Japan can back it up. The chat widens to the new Nations Championship and Nations Cup, what tournament rugby does to selection and pressure, and why global fixtures matter for emerging nations. Then it turns to the engine room: grassroots. Maitland’s under-sevens model, club culture, women’s rugby growth, and how unions must stop neglecting foundations.

Also in this episode:

● Gary Gold’s coaching journey from Cape Town to Japan

● Inside Eddie Jones: standards, detail, and long days

● Japan’s speed, tackling, and finishing near the try line

● Nations Championship and Nations Cup: pressure, ladder, selection

● Maitland’s under-sevens program building a genuine pipeline

● Women’s rugby pathways and Rugby Australia investment concerns

PLUS: A straight talk look at how rugby’s values and governance shape participation, funding, and the global calendar.

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The opening weekend of the Nations Championship (and the Nations Cup) delivered exactly what rugby needed: high quality, plenty of tries, and no shortage of arguments. David Pembroke, Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie break down a cracking All Blacks v France in the new Christchurch stadium, with a clear shift towards pace, ball in hand, and a young 10 taking charge. Japan’s historic win over Italy gets the spotlight it deserves, with Eddie Jones building a side around tempo, connection and new depth. In Sydney, Ireland edged Australia 33-31 in a 10-try thriller, but the post-match oxygen went straight into TMO and TV producer interference. South Africa’s 45-21 win over England raised bigger questions: discipline, aerial contests, and whether England even know how they want to play. Plus, the Nations Cup lit up North and South America with 59 tries and real World Cup 2027 talent emerging.

Also in this episode:

● Nations Championship format excitement, but info hard to find

● All Blacks v France: pace, tries, lead changes

● TMO and TV producer influence sparks big frustration

● Japan beat Italy: Dearns, Leitch, Eddie Jones’ build

● Ireland v Wallabies: 10 tries, lineout pressure, forward pass debate

● South Africa v England: high balls, yellow cards, discipline crisis

PLUS: PLUS: What rugby can learn from NRL clarity, pathways, and fan-first simplicity.

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A brand-new World Rugby era begins, with David Pembroke and Ewen McKenzie teeing up a massive opening weekend of the Nations Championship and Nations Cup, plus the key questions already bubbling away. The headline act is France v New Zealand in Christchurch, with a Hurricanes-flavoured All Blacks spine, Ruben Love at 10, and France leaning heavily on Bordeaux combinations. There’s plenty of heat too: England head to Johannesburg to face a loaded Springboks side, while the Wallabies name a few surprises for Ireland in Sydney, including Josh Nasser at hooker and Jock Campbell at 15. Japan roll the dice without Eddie Jones in the coaches box, starting a fourth-year university flyhalf against Italy. The lads also touch on under-20s results, crowd concerns, and why meaningful windows and better communication matter if rugby wants more eyeballs.

Also in this episode:

● Nations Championship launch and why it’s historic

● France v New Zealand selections and key match-ups

● Japan v Italy: Ryunosuke Ito starts at 10

● Wallabies team debate for Ireland in Sydney

● England v South Africa: power, altitude, bench impact

● Nations Cup fixtures: Uruguay, Georgia, Samoa, Chile, USA

PLUS: Why global calendar alignment and meaningful tournaments keep rugby’s best players visible.

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Toulouse are champions again, four straight, but it was a strange, storm-interrupted Top 14 final where Montpellier owned the carry count and Toulouse still found a way. David Pembroke and Ewen McKenzie break down how Toulouse adapted, defended, kicked more than usual, and used set piece control to win when it mattered. From there, the focus swings to a massive opening weekend of the Nations Championship and Nations Cup, including New Zealand v France, South Africa v England, and Australia v Ireland in Sydney. There’s also big calendar news with ANZAC Day Bledisloe Tests confirmed in Brisbane for 2027, 2029 and 2031, and a tough call as Moana Pasifika is officially no more. Off-field, the pair tackle the global season stalemate, private equity questions around CVC and Silver Lake, and what rugby can learn from the Football World Cup’s eye-watering crowds and presentation.

Also in this episode:

● Toulouse adapt with defence, kicking, and set piece control

● Dupont and Top 14 players released for Nations Championship

● ANZAC Day Bledisloe Tests confirmed for Brisbane 2027–2031

● Moana Pasifika ends as Super Rugby finances get questioned

● Private equity debate: CVC, Silver Lake, and union priorities

● Under-20 scores reviewed, including Australia 90 v Spain 22

PLUS: What rugby can copy from Football World Cup crowds, colour, and broadcast presentation.

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Rugby Unity goes big picture, then straight into the weekend’s rugby. David Pembroke and Ewen McKenzie pull apart what the Football World Cup in the USA is teaching World Rugby ahead of 2031: fan energy, downtown stadium precincts, and the must-solve issue of NFL field dimensions for rugby. They also dig into hydration breaks and the brutal reality of modern media, where TikTok and video are reshaping how sport is sold and understood. Then it’s on to the results: Leinster thump the Bulls 36-7 in the URC final, Hurricanes destroy the Chiefs 60-5 in the Super Rugby final in wild Wellington wind, and Northampton edge Exeter 26-17 with yellow cards again impacting finals footy. The Third Voice returns with Wallabies selection heat, including Lukhan Salakaia-Loto, Carter Gordon at 12, and how this awkward coaching transition compares to the old Eddie Jones handover.

Also in this episode:

● Football World Cup fans show rugby what’s possible

● 2031 USA: rugby field dimensions vs NFL stadiums

● Hydration breaks and the advertising money question

● Reuters report: TikTok now drives youth news habits

● Hurricanes’ front-row skill and post-contact dominance

● Third Voice: Wallabies squad debates and centre combinations

PLUS: From fan behaviour to transparency, rugby’s next growth push is cultural and commercial.

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Rugby Unity goes global this week, with David Pembroke and Ewen McKenzie pulling lessons from the football World Cup in the USA and asking what World Rugby must copy before Rugby World Cup 2031. Dynamic ticket pricing, host city negotiations, and fan culture are all on the table, plus how creator content could help Australia show off more than just the capital cities in 2027. Then it’s back to the pitch: the Super Rugby final is locked in, Hurricanes v Chiefs, after Hurricanes thumped the Blues and the Chiefs put the Crusaders away early. Ewen also shares a chat with Eddie Jones on why scores are blowing out: fewer contests, fewer scrums, but better instinctive support play and two-handed, straight running across the park. And there’s heat in the Premiership too, with the Joe Cokanasiga yellow card debate lighting up Bath v Exeter.

Also in this episode:

● Football World Cup USA buzz and World Rugby’s smile

● Dynamic ticket pricing and what it means for 2031

● Socceroos beat Turkey 2-0 with 28% possession

● Super Rugby semis: Hurricanes and Chiefs set up final

● Eddie Jones chat: instinctive support play beats structure

● Premiership controversy: Cokanasiga yellow card hurts Bath

PLUS: A big push for rugby to learn from other sports, build international club followings, and make tournaments matter more than friendlies.

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Super Rugby has spat the Aussies out again, and David Pembroke and Ewen McKenzie rip the Band-Aid off. Why were the finals blowouts when the stats looked tight? Ewen points to tackle breaks, post-contact metres, ruck speed and those brutal one-on-one moments, while also blasting the way yellow and red cards can hijack the contest. The chat moves to the URC, where Stormers’ three yellow cards helped swing Leinster’s 20–11 win, then into the Super Rugby semi-final picture: Chiefs v Crusaders and Hurricanes v Blues, with Ewen still liking the Hurricanes but fearing officiating deciding it. There’s Wallabies talk too: key positions to lock down, playing style options, and how Les Kiss coming in can shift belief. Plus, Waratahs recruitment, Mark Nawaqanitawase’s NRL confidence, Tony Brown’s All Blacks return, Andy Farrell’s Ireland extension, and Rugby World Cup 2027 ticketing.

Also in this episode:

● Australian Super Rugby teams eliminated, Wallabies talent debate

● Ewen McKenzie’s card crackdown: keep it 15 v 15

● URC: Leinster beat Stormers after three yellow cards

● Super Rugby semis preview: Hurricanes, Chiefs, Crusaders, Blues

● Waratahs underperforming and the non-negotiable of recruitment

● Rugby World Cup 2027 marketing and “face” discussion

PLUS: Rassie’s 21-uncapped player 51 man deep squad – the Springboks look terrifying!

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World Rugby drops what David Pembroke calls a vital strategic plan… and the game barely notices. David and Ewen McKenzie unpack why it landed with a thud, what better promotion could have looked like, and why rugby cannot afford to let alignment and transparency slide. Then it’s a fast, global whip-around: Super Rugby finals are set after Moana Pasifika knock over the Brumbies, the Force beat the Waratahs, and the Hurricanes look like the form team with the Crusaders surging. There’s URC semi-final talk (Bulls v Glasgow, Leinster v Stormers), Top 14 ladder chaos after Bordeaux-Begles’ European celebrations, Japan’s final (Kobe Steelers v Kubota Spears), and Worcester Warriors’ comeback title. Plus, big news bites: USA v Argentina XV in Fort Lauderdale, Australian men and women win in Valladolid, Shaun Edwards’ reported exit from France, and a blunt third-voice debate on Wallabies defence, sanctions, and soaring scorelines.

Also in this episode:

● Why World Rugby’s strategic plan got little attention

● Super Rugby finals: Hurricanes, Brumbies, Crusaders, Blues, Chiefs, Reds

● URC semi-finals and Top 14 ladder squeeze preview

● Japan final: Kobe Steelers v Kubota Spears

● Worcester Warriors win: 27-14 over Bedford

● Wallabies defence, line speed, and modern kicking counters

PLUS: Rugby’s future hinges on better storytelling, packaging, and global reach.

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World Rugby’s strategic plan has finally landed, and David Pembroke and Ewen McKenzie get stuck into what it says, what it dodges, and what it must deliver by 2031. Before the strategy chat, they react to a huge weekend in Bilbao: Montpellier smashing Ulster 59-26 and Bordeaux beating Leinster 41-19 in front of massive crowds, plus a debate on whether the Top 14 is now setting the pace. Ewen breaks down Bordeaux’s defence, Lucu’s standout influence, and a contentious yellow card for a hair pull on Joe McCarthy. Then it’s into the bigger picture: why rugby needs a clear plan, why “enriching lives” matters, and why accountability needs real numbers, not vague ambition. The episode also hits player welfare, the Nations Championship concept, women’s rugby investment targets, and the risk of relying on World Cup revenue. Eddie Jones is absent this week.

Also in this episode:

● Montpellier maul power overwhelms Ulster in Bilbao final.

● Bordeaux out-defend Leinster as Lucu controls the match.

● Debate: Top 14 now the premier domestic competition?

● Player welfare concerns around Nations Championship travel and workload.

● Women’s rugby growth targets and £50 million investment focus.

● Crunch Creator shows new ways to build rugby fandom.

PLUS: The episode pushes for real accountability in World Rugby’s strategy, with clear targets for participation, fans, and revenue.

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David Pembroke sits down with Rugby World Cup 2027 Managing Director Chris Stanley, the man overseeing planning, operations and delivery across 52 matches, 24 teams, and a tournament running 1 October to 13 November. Stanley walks through how a “pop-up” organisation goes from employee number one to a full-scale event engine, from locking in cities, venues and team base camps to wrangling hotels, flights and hundreds of contracts. They dig into what’s keeping leadership awake: cashflow timing, commercial partners still “waiting to see”, and global uncertainty that could impact travel. There’s also a clear-eyed look at ticketing after a first phase that sold 750,000 tickets across 135 countries, plus what to do in the current application window. Add in pricing from $40 seats (and $20 standing in Newcastle and Adelaide) to a $1,950 final ticket, and why Rugby World Cup revenues matter to World Rugby.

Also in this episode:

● Chris Stanley’s journey from UK to Australia

● How Sydney 2000 shaped his event delivery mindset

● Why Rugby World Cup crowds feel different to FIFA

● Team base camps, hotels, training venues, and logistics

● Ticket ballot explained: timelines, oversubscription, and October release

● Partners, media rights, and building momentum with 500 days

PLUS: What a “uniquely Australian” Rugby World Cup fan experience could look like, from stadium food and drink to fan festivals and travel between cities.

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Rugby Unity starts with sad news, marking the passing of Scotland and British and Irish Lions great Scott Hastings, remembered as a top class player and an even better man. From there, the weekend’s rugby storylines fly: England’s Red Roses clinch another Guinness Women’s Six Nations Grand Slam with a 43–28 win over France in Bordeaux, as crowds and revenue figures underline the surge in women’s sport. David Pembroke and Ewen McKenzie then unpack a weekend of monster scorelines across the Prem, URC and Super Rugby, and ask whether attack is now winning too easily. There’s also a sharp discussion on Henry Pollock’s growing profile, South Africa’s talk of leaving European competitions, and Eddie Jones being sanctioned by the Japanese Rugby Football Union after abuse towards match officials. Plus doping bans for Georgian rugby figures and Springbok prop Asenathi Ntlabakanye, and listener questions on World Cup finals venues, Spain’s World Cup bid, and the Nations Championship player availability problem.

Also in this episode:

● Tribute to Scott Hastings and his rugby legacy

● England Red Roses win Grand Slam in Bordeaux

● Women’s sport revenue growth and rugby’s commercial gap

● Big Premiership and URC blowouts raise balance questions

● South Africa discuss leaving European competitions for welfare

● Eddie Jones sanctioned after abuse of match officials

PLUS: The audience drives big calls on 2027 final venues, Spain’s World Cup bid, and Nations Championship selection windows.

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A big weekend of rugby, and Rugby Unity goes wide: Super Rugby’s finals race, the reality of Aussie inconsistency against the New Zealand sides, and what that means for Wallaby selection thinking. David Pembroke and Ewen McKenzie also dig into the global game: Top 14 ladder pressure (and relegation nerves), the Premiership’s ugly scorelines (including Harlequins piling points on Newcastle), and the URC table that’s suddenly crowded and hard to call. There’s a sharp take on the player drain from New Zealand, sabbaticals, and where Japan fits in the modern rugby economy, plus a clear view on Richie Mo’unga’s eligibility call. Then it’s all eyes on the women’s Six Nations: record crowds, big scores, and a winner-takes-all England vs France decider in Bordeaux.

Also in this episode:

● Super Rugby ladder squeeze for fifth and sixth spot

● Reds stung by a disallowed try and refereeing swings

● Wallaby selection: avoid knee-jerk calls, reward form over time

● New Zealand player drain and Japan’s star-studded competition pull

● Richie Mo’unga return rules and All Blacks eligibility line

● Women’s Six Nations records and England vs France finale in Bordeaux

PLUS: The RFU backs Steve Borthwick - the panel reacts!

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After 1 year of Rugby Unity, David Pembroke and Ewen McKenzie unpack what’s working in the modern game (more wingers scoring, smarter kicking, lineout contests returning, less nonsense around yellow cards), and what’s still flashing red, especially Super Rugby crowds and rugby’s battle to stay relevant in a crowded entertainment market. They also spotlight the women’s game as the big success story: strong Six Nations crowds, huge engagement, and a style and connection with fans the men can learn from. Plus, a clear-eyed look at World Rugby’s Nations Championship and the real issue underneath it all: who actually has access to the top players. There’s European Cup semi-final wrap and finals in Bilbao, a nod to Louis Bielle-Biarrey, plus Rugby Europe scorelines, U20 Rugby Championship results, and World Rugby’s IMG deal ahead of 2031 and 2033.

Also in this episode:

● Wingers scoring more tries shows the game’s shift

● Super Rugby trial laws and the end of caterpillar rucks

● Women’s Six Nations crowds, humility, and fan connection

● Nations Championship format excitement, but player access questions

● Champions Cup and Challenge Cup semi-finals and Bilbao finals

● Third Voice: Moana Pasifika, Ireland World Cup hopes, grassroots links

PLUS: A blunt look at how money, logistics, and culture shape rugby’s future.

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Eddie Jones joins David Pembroke solo (no Ewen McKenzie this week) from a monster scouting trip through Australia, stopping in Townsville ahead of Japan’s August Test against the Wallabies. They unpack what Eddie took from visiting the North Queensland Cowboys, then zoom out to a blockbuster Super Rugby weekend in Christchurch and what it did and did not prove about the comp. There’s big-picture talk on Rugby Australia’s record surplus (fuelled by the British and Irish Lions Tour) and the hard question: where should the money actually go, especially with the Wallaroos still well behind the Black Ferns? Eddie fires up on World Rugby politics too, slamming Japan’s “home” Nations Championship match against Ireland being shifted to Newcastle. Plus listener questions on bringing back a national academy, Super Rugby’s future, and what Australia must do to keep elite talent from drifting to the NRL.

Also in this episode:

● Eddie Jones’ Townsville scouting ahead of Wallabies Test

● Super Rugby Christchurch doubleheaders and Australia’s ongoing struggles

● Rugby Australia’s $70.6m surplus after Lions Tour windfall

● Wallaroos, Black Ferns, and women’s rugby inequality debate

● Japan v Ireland in Newcastle and World Rugby power dynamics

● National academy pathways to stop talent leaking to NRL

PLUS: A straight-talking look at governance reform, development models, and what keeps rugby growing worldwide.

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David Pembroke sits down with Herbert Mensah, President of Rugby Africa and a member of the World Rugby Executive Board, to talk about what it really takes to grow the game across a continent of 1.4 billion people. From picking up a rugby ball in England in 1966 to playing for Saracens and then being pulled into rugby administration in Ghana, Mensah lays out the hard truth: Africa’s total annual competition budget is just 675,000 pounds. He explains the push to unlock government backing, why South Africa and France matter for pathways and pre-match opportunities, and how Sevens and the Olympics shape the future. The chat also zooms out to the global game: revenue pressure post-COVID, the high-stakes plan for USA 2031, and why rugby must package itself smarter without losing what makes it special. Eddie Jones and Ewen McKenzie are mentioned by David at the close.

Also in this episode:

● Herbert Mensah’s first rugby memories in England

● Saracens, injury, and the shift into rugby administration

● The Max Brito tour and rugby’s unlikely Accra crowd

● Rugby Africa’s 675,000 pounds budget reality check

● Olympics and Sevens: Africa’s travel and cost challenges

● World Rugby’s USA 2031 gamble and revenue debate

PLUS: How rugby balances tradition with business reality, from Africa to the Executive Board.

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Rugby Unity turns the spotlight on a hard truth: in Victoria, rugby union is fighting for oxygen while AFL and the Melbourne Storm keep winning hearts, crowds and talent. David Pembroke, Eddie Jones and Ewen McKenzie unpack what the AFL gets right (simple product, relentless promotion, tradition with modern polish) and why rugby is slipping, from missing pathways post-Rebels to a lack of media cut-through. The chat rolls into Super Rugby uncertainty, Moana Pasifika’s financial worries, and what rugby “owes” the Pacific as the NRL builds academies and pathways with real cash behind them. There’s still hope in the grassroots, with Eddie’s Japan Under 23s tour and strong club rugby energy, plus sharp takes on referee communication, Retallick’s longevity, and promotion and relegation for the Nations Cup and the Premiership. The episode finishes with a look at the Women’s Six Nations momentum and what rugby must do before 2027.

Also in this episode:

● Why AFL pulls 95,000 on a Thursday night

● Rugby union’s visibility problem in Victoria’s media market

● Melbourne Storm pathways hoovering up Pasifika talent

● Super Rugby future: domestic comps then best-on-best

● Referees explaining laws: better flow or inconsistency?

● Women’s Six Nations crowds surge and fan connection grows

PLUS: The panel debates how rugby markets itself, builds tribalism, and competes for young talent before the 2027 Rugby World Cup.

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David Pembroke and Ewen McKenzie unpack a huge week for the global game, starting with the remarkable rise of women’s rugby after England drew more than 77,000 fans at Twickenham in the opening round of the Women’s Six Nations. From there, the conversation widens into a bigger question: what does rugby need to do now to secure its long-term future?

They look at the value of proper tournament structures, the momentum building around the Pacific Four and Women’s Six Nations, and why the women’s calendar may actually be closer to a true global season than the men’s game. There is also a close look at the new World Rugby Nations Cup, why it matters for emerging nations, and how regular international competition can drive both performance and commercial growth.

The episode also explores the return of long-form touring, the appeal of rugby’s travelling culture, the growing credibility of second-tier nations, and what it all says about the shape of the game in the lead-up to the 2027 and 2029 World Cups. Add in European quarter-final drama, Super Rugby refereeing flashpoints, and debate around All Blacks selection, and this becomes a broad conversation about where rugby is heading and how it can grow from here.

Also in this episode:

● England’s huge Women’s Six Nations crowd and what it signals for the game

● Pacific Four results and the growth of women’s international rugby

● Why tournament structure is key to rugby’s long-term prosperity

● The World Rugby Nations Cup and new opportunities for emerging nations

● Touring tradition, global calendars, and what rugby still does better than any sport

● European quarter-finals, Super Rugby talking points, and All Blacks selection debate

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David Pembroke sits down with top referee Angus Gardner for a straight-talking look at what it really takes to run elite rugby, from Super Rugby to the Six Nations. Angus opens up on getting “poleaxed” in Chiefs v Highlanders, the back condition that ended his playing days, and how refereeing became his way to stay in the game. They unpack how referees manage 800 decisions a match, what the “critical few” actually means, and why transparency with fans could lift understanding fast. The big debates are front and centre: flow vs accuracy, the shape of the game, Mark Robinson’s review into yellow cards and the TMO, plus Eddie Jones’s idea of a centrally contracted World Rugby referee squad. There’s also a sharp chat on communication, profiling referees, and what a home Rugby World Cup in Australia in 2027 could mean.

Also in this episode:

● Angus Gardner’s refereeing journey from age 15

● Super Rugby’s “critical few” and weekly reviews

● Flow vs accuracy: how referees balance both

● Yellow card buckets and the 20-minute red

● TMO scope: Super Rugby vs World Rugby rules

● Nations Championship excitement and 2027 World Cup ambition

PLUS: Refereeing travel, downtime on tour, and the tight-knit elite officials group.

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David Pembroke and Ewen McKenzie hold the fort while Eddie Jones is away touring with Japan U23, and it kicks off with a blunt reality check on what “tour” really means for staff: more toil, more review, and a constant hunt for one-percenters. From there, it’s a sprint through the weekend’s biggest talking points: the Investec European Rugby Championship’s eye-watering Round of 16 scorelines and why the tournament still struggles to cut through globally, plus Super Rugby’s Week 8 results and what the Western Force’s win over the Reds says about form, intent, and momentum. They also get into the uncomfortable truths around crowd numbers, the economics of attending live sport, and why rugby still lives and dies by referee interpretation, even with technology. Add in 2027 World Cup pillars, women’s rugby momentum, South African schools theatre, and Henry Pollock signing with Eddie Hearn.

Also in this episode:

● Eddie Jones touring: early starts, late finishes, relentless review

● One-percenters in coaching: travel, jet lag, and talent ID

● Investec European Rugby Championship lacks continuity and cut-through

● Super Rugby Week 8: Crusaders, Chiefs, Force statement win

● Referee profiles, 800 decisions a match, and TMO frustration

● Women’s Six Nations, Pacific Four, and England ticket sales surge

PLUS: The episode keeps circling one question: how rugby stays relevant, watchable, and financially sustainable.

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USA Rugby CEO Bill Goren joins David Pembroke for a straight, practical look at what it will really take to grow rugby in the United States before LA 2028, then the men’s Rugby World Cup in 2031 and women’s in 2033. From the grassroots reality of a niche, club-led sport across a huge country, to the push for high school varsity status, NCAA progress on the women’s side, and the challenge of making rugby easy to find in a crowded US sports market, Goren lays out the opportunities and the hard bits. There’s also the big-ticket showcase: All Blacks v Springboks in Baltimore, plus what USA Rugby must do to turn one-off events into lasting fans, participation, and community support. And with the Eagles qualified for 2027, the focus turns to getting more time together, improving faster, and building a genuine pathway from kids to Test rugby.

Also in this episode:

● Bill Goren’s background across US pro sports

● Why rugby is still niche in the United States

● Imagine Rugby reaches about 500,000 kids in three years

● High school and NCAA status: the next big targets

● All Blacks v Springboks Baltimore: fan experience and strategy

● USA Eagles plans after qualifying for 2027

PLUS: How USA Rugby plans to align grassroots, high performance, and values like inclusion.

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World Rugby CEO Alan Gilpin joins David Pembroke to discuss the real hard questions facing our sport at the moment – rugby’s global calendar, player safety and cashflow are just the tip of the iceberg. Gilpin breaks down the real tension World Rugby is trying to solve: accuracy and flow, without treating it as a trade-off, and why too many law tweaks make life harder for officials moving between competitions. He explains the Mark Robinson match officiating review, what “shape of the game” stakeholders are pushing for, and why the strategic plan (targeting an early May launch) is centred on fans, player welfare, and growing the sport’s commercial engine. There’s also a big look ahead: strong early Rugby World Cup 2027 ticket demand in Australia, the long runway to USA 2031 and 2033, and how rugby can win in a brutal “attention economy”.

● Alan Gilpin’s rugby journey from Gloucestershire to World Rugby

● Six Nations weekend: Scotland v France, Italy’s big moments

● Match officiating: accuracy versus flow is not a trade-off

● Law trials across comps make consistency harder for referees

● Mark Robinson review: TMO use, philosophy, elite officiating model

● World Rugby strategy: fans, player welfare, commercial growth, USA 2031

PLUS: Gilpin argues rugby’s future is more fans consuming more rugby, more often.

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