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Welcome back to Riffs on Riffs, where in this episode Joe and Toby break down Amber Mark’s “Sweet Serotonin,” a track off her latest album Pretty Ideas, and explore why she’s becoming one of the most compelling voices in modern pop, R&B, and genre-bending artistry. They dive into Amber’s global background—Jamaican roots, German family, years spent in Berlin, India, Miami, and New York—and how that cultural mixtape shapes her sound. From Motown and Amy Winehouse inflections to country detours, folk gems, and dreamy pop, Amber refuses to fit neatly into any genre box. Some of the riffing: • The Tiny Desk (Home) performance that proves Amber has serious vocal chops • Wildly different tracks across the album—from “Let Me Love You” to the John the Blind collab • Her production journey from GarageBand to fully owning her artistic vision • Great covers (Sade! Bill Withers!) and why they matter • The dopamine-vs-serotonin debate and what the song is really saying • Touring with Sabrina Carpenter and the potential power-duo moment we all need • Whether Pretty Ideas is officially vinyl-worthy And then, as only Joe and Toby can, the episode spirals into hilarious side quests: parenting through playlists, NBA-fueled late nights, Jay-Z’s ability to stop time, speakerphone offenders in public (stop it!), Thanksgiving myth-busting, flash-mob revenge fantasies, and the eternal struggle of Browns fans. Hit subscribe, drop a comment, and let us know: Is Pretty Ideas vinyl-worthy for you? What should Joe & Toby’s holiday song be? And have you ever wanted to throw a metaphorical penalty flag at a speakerphone sociopath? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When Daniel Caesar quietly dropped his album "Son of Spergy", most of the world didn’t see it coming. In this episode Joe and Toby dive deep into Caesar’s lead single “Call On Me,” uncovering the soulful layers, hidden nuance, and emotional depth that make his music feel both intimate and transcendent. Per usual, the conversation starts with a laugh — Shakespeare references, hats, and Toby’s ongoing book of analogies — but soon spirals into an exploration of what harmony really means in music and in life. Joe breaks out the guitar to dissect Caesar’s deceptively simple two-chord vamp, revealing how small changes in tonality and phrasing can create something entirely fresh in pop music. Toby draws parallels between gospel, jazz, and the improvisational genius that defines Caesar’s sound — a sound that lives in tension between structure and soul. Together, they explore: The gospel and jazz DNA behind Caesar’s harmonies How musical “vocabularies” shape every artist — and why Caesar’s is joyfully odd The spiritual throughline in his songwriting and his relationship with his father What it means to reconcile faith, creativity, and identity through art Why harmony, not balance, is the truer metaphor for living a whole life As the conversation unfolds, “Call On Me” becomes a mirror for something universal — how we all try to live as complex, imperfect humans in search of connection and clarity. Joe and Toby riff on everything from Joseph Campbell’s Hero’s Journey to side quests in Zelda, from father-son relationships to finding the melody that ties our stories together. By the end, what starts as a discussion about one artist’s song becomes a meditation on purpose, reconciliation, and the beauty of learning to live in harmony — musically, emotionally, and spiritually. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sink your teeth into Tame Impala’s “Dracula” as Joe and Toby riff on the glittering, slightly dystopian pull of Kevin Parker’s synth-pop era. Is “Dracula” a shimmering cousin to “The Less I Know the Better”? Where do The Weeknd vibes and MJ/“Thriller” nods fit in? The duo debates lone-wolf studio genius vs. the power of collaboration, decode the video’s cult-ish unease, geek out on sounds (hello, Rhodes), and swap notes on why nighttime unlocks different creative choices. They close with a heartfelt nod to D’Angelo’s enduring influence. In this episode: Why “Dracula” and “The Less I Know the Better” feel like siblings The charm of “danceable but unsettling” pop Timbaland breadcrumbs vs. Rick Rubin chameleon-mode: producer fingerprints Studio polish vs. live translation—how Tame makes it work Instruments we love (and lovingly roast): Rhodes, sax, clarinet/oboe Night-mode creativity—why some songs only reveal themselves after dark A tribute to D’Angelo’s legacy Follow Riffs on Riffs everywhere you listen, and say hi on Instagram @riffsonriffs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Slide into cozy Sunday-morning vibes with Joe and Toby as they dive into Olivia Dean’s “Man I Need” from her new album The Art of Loving. They unpack why this track is exploding right now, trace the album’s inspirations (bell hooks’ All About Love and a Mickalene Thomas installation), and explore the record’s intentional warmth — “fearless joy” delivered with classic, less-is-more production and a spotlight on Dean’s voice. In this episode: Why “Man I Need” became the pick—and what makes the whole album vinyl-worthy. The art-as-antidote conversation: simplicity, authenticity, and choosing collaborators with purpose. Lineage and influences: Whitney to Sade to Amy/Alicia echoes—without sounding retro-stuck. Crafting in a “house of love”: eight weeks, a favorite piano, and a feel of warmth. Healing and creative practice: nature, community, volunteering, and the “ten-things” reset list. Tell us your top four tracks from The Art of Loving. Drop a comment and keep the conversation going. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joe and Toby ladle up a hearty conversation about Remi Wolf’s track “Soup” from her 2024 release Big Ideas. From funky basslines to chaotic brilliance, they break down how Remi’s stream-of-consciousness writing and fearless authenticity create songs that are equal parts journal entry and anthem. Along the way, Joe and Toby reflect on what it means to show up as your whole self—in music, in work, and in life. Expect tangents on chili’s questionable soup status, Spotify relapses, lobster bisque loyalty, and spirit animals. Can you guess who might be a koala? Whether you’re a longtime Remi Wolf fan or just discovering her sound, this episode blends music analysis, personal stories, and plenty of laughs into one big, tasty bowl. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Sometimes all I think about is you…” In this episode of Riffs on Riffs, Joe and Toby revisit Glass Animals’ breakout hit “Heat Waves” — the indie-pop anthem that simmered for more than a year before reaching #1 on the Billboard Hot 100. They explore how a song written in an hour became a global phenomenon, fueled by TikTok trends, a FIFA soundtrack placement, and a slow-burn resonance during the isolation of the pandemic. The hosts unpack the track’s hypnotic melodies, hip-hop-inspired production, and Dave Bayley’s vulnerable lyrics about loss and memory. They also dive into the band’s evolution, from earlier experimental sounds to the more personal storytelling on Dreamland and beyond, reflecting on how near-tragedy and resilience shaped their music. Along the way, Joe and Toby bring their signature mix of humor and insight — from stories about pickleball shorts and Johnny Depp’s unexpected cameo as the song’s first listener, to bigger conversations about why authenticity in music matters, the role of community, and how the best songs manage to capture both personal grief and universal connection. If you’ve ever had “Heat Waves” stuck in your head (and who hasn’t?), this episode takes you deeper into why the song lingers — not just as an earworm, but as a reminder of the bonds that carry us through. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Riffs on Riffs, Joe and Toby dive deep into the mysterious world of Sleep Token and their hauntingly beautiful track “Aqua Regia.” From masked identities and cult-like lore to genre-bending fusion of jazz chords, hip hop grooves, and metal intensity, the hosts unravel what makes this band so captivating. Joe introduces the track as a “gateway drug” into Sleep Token’s catalog, while Toby breaks down Vessel’s vocal range, harmonies, and the unexpected piano voicings that give the song its unique edge. Along the way, they explore themes of love, dissolution, and emotional alchemy hidden in the lyrics—and even imagine wild collaborations with Taylor Swift or Kendrick Lamar. As always, the conversation riffs beyond the music itself: into the power of mystery in art, how younger generations engage with music, and the surprising connections between listening habits, technology, and culture. Whether you’re already a devoted “worshipper” of Sleep Token or just curious about the buzz, this episode promises fresh insight, thoughtful laughs, and a few classic Toby rants. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Toby and Joe explore one of the most powerful tracks in recent hip hop memory: “The Birds Don’t Sing” by Clipse. This chronicle of lived experience is a song that delivers raw vulnerability, poetic lyricism, and emotional depth. They unpack the sibling synergy of Pusha T and Malice, reflect on how the song’s lyrics about loss, grief, and family resonate universally, and celebrate the grown-man energy that defines this track and the album as a whole. From production quirks and Pharrell’s bold choices to lyrical callbacks and real-life pain, Joe and Toby give this track the kind of careful, heartfelt analysis it deserves. They also explore the broader cultural implications of the album—from moving beyond coke rap to challenging stereotypes about Black fatherhood. The human experience is universal. Songs like these remind us why music matters. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joe and Toby step into the funky vortex of the 90s to revisit Jamiroquai’s iconic hit "Virtual Insanity." From sliding sofas and wild hats to acid jazz breakdowns and ballet-inspired footwork, the duo dives deep into what made this track and its legendary video so unforgettable. Along the way, they unpack the legacy of acid jazz as the spiritual ancestor of lo-fi, the entertaining genius of Jay Kay, and the unsung heroics of bassist Stuart Zender. Plus: the not so well known interpolation of Jocelyn Brown, the influence of Stevie Wonder, a heartfelt ode to underrated basslines, and why OK Go treadmills may be the spiritual cousins of floating couches. And for those wondering what kind of check it would take to ditch the day job for an 8-album record deal, don’t worry, that math gets worked out too. Whether you're here for the history, the grooves, or the glorious weirdness of moving furniture, this episode’s got something for every music nerd. Disco ain't dead, and neither is acid jazz. Crazy times indeed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of Riffs on Riffs we throw caution (and rhythm) to the wind as we dive into WALK THE MOON’s unstoppable earworm, “Shut Up and Dance.” From wedding reception dance floors to nostalgic 80s synthpop vibes, learn how a spur-of-the-moment lyric became a global indie-pop anthem. Join us as we reminisce about awkward dancefloor moments, wax poetic about college memories, and draw hilarious parallels between the song and Chasing Amy, Clerks, and yes—even The Breakfast Club. You'll learn how a night out in Echo Park turned into a platinum hit, why Kenyon College has a surprising music legacy, and what Sting's “Walking on the Moon” has to do with WALK THE MOON. Plus: indie pop’s mysterious disappearance, Spotify playlist rants, surprise shout-outs to Remy Wolf, U2, David Byrne, and even Will Smith’s not-so-welcome comeback. Listen in for a joyful, nostalgic, and surprisingly philosophical ride through one of the happiest songs of the 2010s. So… just shut up and press play. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Riffs on Riffs, Joe and Toby dive deep into the song 'Ordinary' by Alex Warren, exploring its themes, musical style, and the personal experiences that shaped it. They discuss Warren's journey from social media influencer to musician, the impact of personal trauma on songwriting, and the evolving landscape of the music industry in the age of social media. Learn about the subtle (and obvious) connections to Gospel music, why even famous artists have imposter syndrome, and what it means to be authentic in content creation. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of Riffs on Riffs, Joe and Toby dive into the emotionally rich world of Ravyn Lenae, with a spotlight on her rising hit "Love Me Not." They unpack the track’s surprising lyrical depth and discuss how Ravyn’s distinctive vocal style—initially unexpected, yet undeniably captivating—sets her apart in today’s music scene. Along the way, they explore her roots, the evolution of her sound from Bird’s Eye to now, and how vulnerability and authenticity fuel not just her storytelling, but the listener's emotional connection. From parental influences to fearless nonconformity, this conversation is a heartfelt celebration of what happens when an artist fully embraces their voice. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of Riffs on Riffs, Joe and Toby kick things off with some love for their dogs before diving into “MUTT,” the bold and emotionally rich single from Leon Thomas. They explore how the track—and the album of the same name—uses personal storytelling, inventive R&B production, and sharp lyricism to reflect themes of love, identity, and creative independence. Along the way, they discuss Leon Thomas’s evolution from actor to boundary-pushing musician, the importance of originality in today’s remake-saturated entertainment world, and how MUTT stands out as a cohesive artistic statement in a sea of playlist-filler. With reflections on intentionality, vulnerability, and the power of authentic expression, this episode is a celebration of music that dares to do something different. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of Riffs on Riffs, Joe and Toby dive into Doechii’s powerful track “ANXIETY” and the fearless vulnerability that defines her artistry. They explore how her seamless blend of rapping and singing, backed by raw emotional honesty, is reshaping the sound and soul of modern hip hop. From her rise under the Top Dawg Entertainment banner to the way performance deepens the emotional impact of her music, the conversation touches on the evolving role of mental health in artistic expression, the power of dual perspectives in songwriting, and the joy that can coexist with struggle. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of Riffs on Riffs, Toby and Joe dive into Benson Boone’s meteoric rise, from his first brush with fame on American Idol to his decision to carve his own path as an artist. They break down his hit single "Beautiful Things," exploring its themes of vulnerability, the fleeting nature of happiness, and the weight of success. Along the way, they discuss the evolving conversation around masculinity in music, the importance of self-belief, and the physical toll of high-energy performances—especially when backflips at the Grammys are involved. They also examine what makes "Beautiful Things" resonate so deeply, all while celebrating the twists, turns, and occasional stumbles that come with chasing greatness. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Joe and Toby break down “Born Again,” the electrifying 2025 collaboration between LISA, Doja Cat, and RAYE. From its fusion of disco, hip-hop, and pop to its themes of empowerment and artistic control, they explore how the track reflects the changing landscape of the music industry. The conversation dives into the global impact of K-Pop, the resurgence of live instrumentation, and the rise of female emcees commanding their space. Along the way, they discuss LISA’s journey as a solo artist, the massive influence of BLACKPINK, and why nostalgia continues to shape modern hits. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Joe and Toby take a deep dive into SZA's ethereal track "Saturn," unpacking its emotional resonance, poetic lyrics, and bold approach to rhythm and structure. They explore how SZA's transparency about mental health reflects a generational shift, discuss the evolution of R&B through comparisons to past artists, and examine how her collaborations and artistic growth have carved out a unique space in the industry. Along the way, the duo weaves in fascinating connections between music, cultural trends, and even the passion of debating basketball legends, all while celebrating SZA's role in shaping the future of R&B. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Joe and Toby dive into Morgan Wallen’s heartfelt track "Smile," exploring its nostalgic themes, vivid storytelling, and how it reflects the evolution of country music. They discuss Wallen’s unprecedented chart success, the challenges of separating an artist’s personal life from their work, and the way music videos can shape and amplify a song’s narrative. Along the way, the duo examines how country music continues to blend with other genres and the role of personal growth in shaping an artist’s output. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone intrigued by the ever-changing landscape of modern country music. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Riffs on Riffs, Joe and Toby dive into Cynthia Erivo’s breathtaking rendition of “Defying Gravity” from Wicked, celebrating its powerful themes of empowerment, individuality, and overcoming adversity. They explore the song’s intricate composition and emotional resonance, reflecting on Broadway’s unique ability to connect deeply with audiences through storytelling and performance. From the evolution of Elphaba’s character to the cultural significance of diversity in casting, the duo examines the intentional choices that make Wicked a modern masterpiece. With personal anecdotes and thoughtful insights, Joe and Toby discuss the challenges and joys of musical storytelling, the importance of embracing originality in theater, and how songs like “Defying Gravity” inspire listeners to rise above expectations and embrace their true selves. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Riffs on Riffs, Joe and Toby dive into the collaboration between Bruno Mars and Lady Gaga on the track "Die With a Smile." From their initial reactions to the song and its polarizing music video to an exploration of Bruno’s nostalgic yet innovative style, the guys unpack the artistry behind this unique pairing. They discuss the critical role of producers like Andrew Watt and D’Mile, the importance of collaboration in shaping a song’s success, and the industry’s reliance on strategic timing and marketing for Grammy nods. With playful comparisons to basketball strategies and reflections on the evolving versatility of both artists, Joe and Toby offer insights into what makes great music transcend genres and expectations. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Riffs on Riffs, Joe and Toby dive into Chappell Roan's emotional hit “Good Luck, Babe!” to explore her powerful lyrics, musical structure, and the cultural influences shaping her sound. They discuss the impact of drag culture on her performance style, drawing connections to the 80s music revival and how modern artists like Roan are reinterpreting classic sounds while embracing vulnerability. The duo touches on the deep connection between artists and fans, examining the pressures of fame and the bravery required to perform. Rich in personal anecdotes, the episode highlights the importance of contemporary female artists supporting and influencing each other, and how Roan’s music resonates with universal themes of love, heartbreak, and the courage it takes to be true to oneself. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this festive episode of Riffs on Riffs, Joe and Toby unwrap the timeless magic of Nat King Cole's iconic "The Christmas Song." They explore Mel Torme's pivotal role in its creation, the cultural legacy of holiday music, and even the unexpected musical connections found in hip hop sampling. With thoughtful reflections on empathy, storytelling, and the enduring power of music, this episode reminds us that the holidays are about more than just the joyous melodies—they're about the memories and emotions that last long after the final note. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Riffs on Riffs, Toby and Joe dive into Shaboozey's 2024 hit single, "A Bar Song (Tipsy)," unpacking its clever interpolation of J-Kwon's "Tipsy" and its rise as a quintessential drinking anthem. They explore Shaboozey's evolution as an artist, his diverse musical influences, and the cultural implications of blending genres like country and hip-hop. The conversation explores the polarizing use of auto-tune, the complexities of race in country music, and how Shaboozey’s strategic marketing bolstered his visibility. With a nod to the storytelling power of music, Toby and Joe reflect on how "A Bar Song" bridges cultural divides and redefines expectations in the industry. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Riffs on Riffs, Joe and Toby dive into the story of Teddy Swims and his breakout hit "Lose Control," which holds the record for the longest climb to number one on the charts. Known for his soulful voice and heartfelt authenticity, Teddy’s journey from football to music is as inspiring as it is unique. Joe and Toby discuss how his YouTube covers catapulted him to fame, the meaning behind his stage name, and the role of collaboration in crafting his music. They explore themes of vulnerability in songwriting, the evolving perception of appearance in pop stardom, and the double standards faced by male and female artists. With reflections on music education, tattoos as storytelling, and the importance of embracing optimism, this episode celebrates Teddy Swims as a modern artist who connects deeply with his audience through both his music and his message. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Joe and Toby dive into Laufey’s 2023 single “From The Start”, a song that highlights her unique style—a captivating mix of jazz, pop, and classical elements. Laufey, an Icelandic-Chinese artist known for her velvety vocals and vintage sound, blends the warmth of jazz standards with contemporary pop flair, crafting songs that capture young love and introspection. In this episode, Joe and Toby discuss the nuances of her hauntingly beautiful voice and her ability to make listeners feel both the thrill and ache of romance. Tune in to hear their thoughts on how Laufey channels old-world elegance into modern melodies, making her music as timeless as it is fresh. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Joe and Toby are joined by special guest Brandon Terry to explore the lasting legacy of LL Cool J, discussing his recent album drop and his impact on hip hop. They dive into the evolution of LL's music, his role in coining the term "GOAT," and the cultural significance of his classic albums. The conversation also covers the importance of showmanship, comparing iconic voices in hip hop, and reflecting on lessons from DMX’s powerful performances. As they celebrate hip hop’s 50th anniversary, they touch on ageism in the genre, LL's controversial history with Canibus, and the rise of the underground movement. The episode wraps up with the guys dropping exciting news about their own upcoming music release. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Riffs on Riffs, Joe and Toby take a deep dive into Billie Eilish's 2024 single, "BIRDS OF A FEATHER." They explore the song’s emotional complexity, touching on how Billie’s haunting lyrics and minimalist sound create a profound impact. The discussion highlights her collaboration with brother Finneas and how family dynamics can fuel creativity, while also reflecting on the importance of protecting young artists in an industry fraught with pressures. Joe and Toby also examine the toxic themes often hidden in pop music and how Eilish uses her unique sound to tell vivid, visual stories that resonate with listeners. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Joe and Toby discuss Sabrina Carpenter's hit 2024 single "Please Please Please," diving deep into how this catchy pop anthem blends vulnerability with irresistible melodies. They explore Carpenter's impact on pop culture, examining how her lyrics resonate with her generation and reflect the heartache that affects both the heart and ego. They also touch on the unique challenges child stars face in navigating fame, as well as the crucial role of collaboration in songwriting. From her seamless genre-blending to her potential in film, Joe and Toby consider Sabrina's bright future in entertainment. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Joe and Toby dive into the career and influence of T-Pain, focusing on his hit song "Buy U a Drank." They explore how T-Pain’s groundbreaking use of auto-tune set him apart and helped define his unique sound. The conversation covers his bold decision to turn down record deals, the impact of Jay-Z’s “D.O.A. (Death Of Auto-Tune)” on his career, and how T-Pain silenced critics with live performances that showcased his vocal talent. They also touch on the importance of authenticity, taking risks, and T-Pain’s lasting influence on artists like Drake and Future. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Joe and Toby dive into the world of Hozier with a discussion about his #1 hit single "Too Sweet." They explore Hozier's career, his unique blend of folk, soul, and blues, and the profound meaning behind his lyrics. The discussion highlights the effortless beauty of his vocals, his literary references, and his thematic messages. Joe and Toby also touch on Hozier's activism, the harmony within his band, and how streaming platforms have helped artists like him achieve international success. Tune in to discover why Hozier's authenticity and dedication to his artistic vision make him stand out in today's music landscape. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Joe and Toby dive into the hauntingly beautiful song "Back to Black" and the album of the same name by Amy Winehouse. They explore how the title track captures themes of heartbreak, vulnerability, and emotional depth, setting the tone for the entire album. The conversation also gets into the broader impact of Back to Black, its influence on music, and its connection to mental health and artistic expression. Joe and Toby also discuss contemporary artists who might fill the void left by Amy Winehouse's passing, reflecting on her enduring legacy and the power of her music. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Toby and Joe dive into The Weeknd’s 2015 smash hit “Can’t Feel My Face.” They explore Abel Tesfaye's background and the inspirations behind his Michael Jackson-esque vocal stylings. The duo discusses how the infectious lyric “I can’t feel my face when I’m with you” perfectly captures the song’s mix of pop hooks and drug-fueled emotions. They also highlight how The Weeknd seamlessly blends elements of R&B, pop, funk, and EDM in his music, creating a unique yet accessible sound. Toby and Joe share their personal insights on The Weeknd’s impressive body of work and examine other tracks with both subtle and overt drug references, emphasizing how this theme has shaped the sound and message of modern music. Tune in for an engaging conversation that uncovers the influences and innovations behind one of the decade’s defining hits. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this week’s episode, Joe and Toby dive deep into Journey’s legendary 1981 single “Don’t Stop Believin’” and explore the song’s rich history along with their personal connections to this timeless anthem. The guys discuss how the song’s structure cleverly delays the iconic chorus, creating a powerful moment when Steve Perry finally belts out the main hook, and they marvel at Perry’s incredible vocal prowess that makes this moment so unforgettable. With insights into the song’s creation and reflections on how it has resonated in their own lives, Joe and Toby offer listeners a heartfelt journey into why this track remains a beacon of hope and resilience. Tune in and get ready to hold on to that feelin’ of classic rock greatness! Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this special crossover episode of Riffs on Riffs, Joe and Toby team up with Todd Coats and Elliot Strunk from the Two Designers Walk Into a Bar podcast to talk about those rare and special albums that blow our minds both sonically and visually. Together, the four share their own picks of iconic albums where the music and visual aesthetics combine to create something that transcends beyond both music and visual art. From universally acclaimed classics to hidden gems, each host passionately defends their picks while sharing personal anecdotes and the stories behind the artwork's conception. If you enjoy the banter of your beloved Riffs hosts, then the 2X multiplier of 2 Designers will be a treat! Join us for conversation on design choices, musical influences, and the profound impact of album art on our cultural consciousness. Just be sure to tip your bartenders and wait staff!    Learn more and listen to Two Designers Walk into a Bar here: https://www.twodesignerswalkintoabar.com Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Riffs on Riffs, Joe and Toby dive into the 1992 hit "Under The Bridge" by Red Hot Chili Peppers. They explore the emotional turmoil and isolation Anthony Kiedis was experiencing when he penned the song, reflecting on how it resonated with them in their youth. The discussion highlights the exceptional musical talent of the band members, while noting Kiedis’s role as more of a stylist than a traditional singer. Join Joe and Toby as they walk through the city streets of this iconic track, sharing personal connections and musical insights along the way. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Riffs on Riffs, Joe and Toby explore Katy Perry's groundbreaking 2008 debut single "I Kissed A Girl." Initially met with strong resistance from her label and controversy from some who felt it appropriated the gay lifestyle, the song nonetheless resonated with many fans. Over time, listeners have shared how it opened their eyes to their own desires, and Perry’s unwavering support of the LGBTQ+ community has helped heighten awareness. Beyond its impact, "I Kissed A Girl" is undeniably catchy and launched Perry into a career filled with a string of hits, culminating in her 2015 Super Bowl halftime performance. Tune in this week as the guys get deep into the song that started it all. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Riffs on Riffs, Joe and Toby dive into Owl City’s hit 2009 single “Fireflies.” While the somewhat over-the-top, synth-heavy pop song might not totally resonate with them, they certainly respect the hustle of Adam Young, the mastermind behind Owl City. The guys get deep into the lyrics, which paint a sugary picture of a night of insomnia. They also explore how “Fireflies” not only topped the charts in the US but also captivated audiences worldwide. Tune in to hear Joe and Toby’s insightful take on this phenomenon of a song—it’s certainly a podcast experience that will leave you feeling like you’ve just gotten a thousand hugs from ten thousand lightning bugs. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Toby and Joe dive into Pharrell Williams' iconic 2013 hit single "Happy." Released at a time when people were in need of a lift, this infectious track became an instant anthem. Originally written for the animated film Despicable Me 2 and intended for Cee Lo Green, Pharrell ended up recording the song himself, turning it into a worldwide sensation. As the guys explore all things Pharrell, they unpack the song's origins, its impact on pop culture, and much more. So get ready to feel the joy and groove along as Toby and Joe dissect the magic behind "Happy" and celebrate the genius of Pharrell Williams. Riffs on Riffs is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Riffs on Riffs listeners get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at http://distrokid.com/vip/riffsonriffs . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join Joe and Toby as they revisit Naughty by Nature's iconic song "O.P.P." and its … unique take on relationships. “O.P.P.” was released in 1991 on the Tommy Boy label amidst a burgeoning era of hip-hop. Sampling Melvin Bliss's "Synthetic Substitution" and the Jackson 5's "ABC," "O.P.P." combines diverse elements into a cohesive sonic mix — just like another favorite from that era, the "hot and cool" sides of a McDLT burger! They discuss Treach’s gritty persona, apparent love of baseball, and the surprising crossover success of "OPP". Plus, that time Will Smith went on a date with Sandra Denton, aka Pepa, and how Treach might have been displeased. Toby and Joe riff on more songs about infidelity, exploring themes of taking action, keeping affairs secret, and facing consequences. They mention songs like "Irreplaceable" by Beyoncé, "Before He Cheats" by Carrie Underwood, and "Me and Mrs. Jones" by Billy Paul. Toby professes his love for "Lips of an Angel" by Hinder and they debate if that song was written for someone named Gretchen. From Brandy and Monica's "The Boy is Mine" to Dolly Parton's "Jolene" and the Eagles' "Lyin' Eyes," there is no shortage of songs about cheating. Toby and Joe discuss Erykah Badu's song "Next Lifetime" and its thought-provoking music video that explores the concept of reincarnation and forbidden love across different lifetimes. They get into Jay-Z's album "4:44" and its title track, which serves as a heartfelt apology for his past mistakes. For a completely different approach to cheating, they look at Shaggy's song "It Wasn't Me" as an example of denying wrongdoing. They also discuss Luther Ingram's soulful song "If Loving You is Wrong," reflecting on its emotional impact and nostalgic appeal. Joe and Toby delve into Jurassic 5's song "Thin Line," which addresses the complexities of emotional infidelity and the importance of respecting boundaries in relationships. There is a surprise revelation about falling in love on airplanes, highlighting the vulnerability and safety of immediate connections without long-term repercussions.  “O.P.P.” is an iconic example of how music can capture the emotions and complexities of “entanglements” and other such situations, allowing listeners to connect on a deep level without experiencing them firsthand. Come along for another fun-filled Riff’s journey!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Riffs on Riffs, join Toby and Joe for a lively discussion about Beyoncé's latest single, "TEXAS HOLD 'EM.” They discuss Beyoncé's career and celebrate her work ethic and talent, particularly her ability to transcend genres and challenge musical conventions. The conversation explores the history of country music and the role of black artists within the genre. But is genre really just a construct? Why are we so afraid to break musical boundaries? Also, why does the Cheesecake Factory menu have so many pages? Throughout the episode, Joe and Toby celebrate Beyoncé's artistry and the sonic quality of her latest album while also questioning some of the production choices (that click track on “Blackbird”— eegads!). The album Cowboy Carter is overflowing with talent, featuring veteran artists like Willie Nelson, Dolly Parton, Linda Martell, and Stevie Wonder, and highlighting emerging talents like Tanner Adele and Shaboozey. Toby and Joe explore the parallels between Beyoncé's journey and those of past artists like Charley Pride and DeFord Bailey and shed light on the long-standing challenges faced by black musicians in country music. By acknowledging this history and paying homage to those who paved the way, Beyoncé's album becomes a part of a larger narrative of resilience and creativity. Many artists have switched lanes, from Amy Grant to Darius Rucker. Joe and Toby explore the double standards and biases that exist within the music industry. Why do some artists face backlash for exploring new sounds, while others are celebrated for their versatility? These disparities highlight the complexities of race, identity, and cultural perceptions in music. Join us for the conversation as we explore “TEXAS HOLD 'EM” and the power of art to challenge norms, break barriers, and bring diverse voices to the forefront. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join Toby and Joe as they kick off the long-awaited return of Riffs on Riffs, diving deep into the pop sensation Taylor Swift's track "Cruel Summer." Initially released on her 2019 album Lover, the song saw a resurgence in popularity four years later, propelled by Swift's Eras tour. Now, this track isn't your typical carefree summer anthem. Oh no, there's something intoxicatingly complicated going on here. We're talking about a passionate, whirlwind romance that's equal parts thrilling and…well, cruel. In this episode, Toby and Joe dissect the infectious beats and poignant lyrics of "Cruel Summer," exploring its journey to the top of the charts and its impact on listeners beyond Swift's core demographic. Whether you're a Swiftie OG or just discovering her music, there's something for everyone in this episode. Tune in as they unravel the layers of Taylor Swift's music and its universal appeal. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to the final installment of Riffs on Riffs' 4-part miniseries about the band 24-Carat Black. On this episode: The legacy of 24CB and its landmark record Ghetto: Misfortune's Wealth, and where the former members landed. Riffs on Riffs is a production of Evergreen Podcasts. Hosted by Joe Watson and Toby Brazwell. Our Audio Engineer is Eric Koltnow and our Producer and Sound Designer is Noah Foutz. Executive Producers Gerardo Orlando and David Allen Moss. To help the former members of 24CB and get some new Riffs merch, check out our bonfire store! Listen to new music made by Princess Hearn and Niambi Steele, and to help support us make new music with them, consider donating to our Kickstarter! Check out the playlist for this season! Thanks for another great season. Huzzah! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to our epic four part series about the band 24-Carat Black! On episode 3, we learn all about the beginning of the end; Stax Records was on the fritz, and Dale Warren was holding the group together with both hands. Hear from original band members and more about the fallout of 24-Carat Black, here on Riffs on Riffs! Riffs on Riffs is a production of Evergreen Podcasts. Hosted by Joe Watson and Toby Brazwell. Our Audio Engineer is Eric Koltnow and our Producer and Sound Designer is Noah Foutz. Executive Producers Gerardo Orlando and David Allen Moss. Check out the playlist for this season! Listen to new music by 24-Carat Black members, and consider donating to our Kickstarter to make even more music with them! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to Riffs on Riffs, Season 3! This is episode 2 of our epic four part series about the band 24-Carat Black. On today's episode: The Dream. Dale Warren's musical vision coming to bear as we hear from former band members about life on the road and in the studio. Featuring more than one exciting Uhaul story, this is an episode you won't want to miss! Riffs on Riffs is a production of Evergreen Podcasts. Hosted by Joe Watson and Toby Brazwell. Our Audio Engineer is Eric Koltnow and our Producer and Sound Designer is Noah Foutz. Executive Producers Gerardo Orlando and David Allen Moss. Check out the playlist for this season! Listen to new music by 24-Carat Black members, and consider donating to our Kickstarter to make even more music with them! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to Riffs on Riffs, Season 3! This season, we're doing things a little differently - We're bringing you the story of a dark, musical savant with a dream, a van full of teenage musicians with otherworldly talent, and an epic record that has been sampled by hip-hop royalty, even though the group lives in obscurity to this day. We're telling the tale of 24-Carat Black, and on this episode, you'll hear the first of our four part series about the band that everyone's heard, but nobody has heard of. Riffs on Riffs is a production of Evergreen Podcasts. Hosted by Joe Watson and Toby Brazwell. Our Audio Engineer is Eric Koltnow and our Producer and Sound Designer is Noah Foutz. Executive Producers Gerardo Orlando and David Allen Moss. Check out the playlist for this season! Listen to new music by 24-Carat Black members, and consider donating to our Kickstarter to make even more music with them! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Riffs on Riffs is back and this season, we're doing things a little differently: a four-part series about the band that everyone has heard, but nobody has heard of, 24-Carat Black. Featuring interviews from band members, get ready to hear stories of otherworldly talent, teenage musicians honing their chops on the road in posh hotels and the backs of uhauls, an epic concept album decades ahead of its time, and a musical savant with a vision and a dark side at the center of it all. Coming this June, don't miss Season 3 of Riffs on Riffs! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What do you call four men in a rock group that don't sing or play music? Join Joe and Toby as they search for the answer and throw plenty of shade along the way. These are a couple of groups that for some reason people love to hate. Don't enjoy this episode? We'll be happy to give you your Nickelback.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

BTS is a global phenomenon and a huge part of the popularity of the Korean Wave. So is it wrong to love K pop? Join Joe and Toby as they look to blues icon Keb Mo for some answers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There are certain songs with content or subject matter that ventures into disturbing territory. Some of them are intentionally crafted stories meant to spur the listener into thinking about uncomfortable topics. Others are, well, just plain wrong. Join Joe and Toby as they examine tracks from Royce da 5’9”, Apathy, Benny Mardones, Neil Diamond, and others. They’ll also shine a light on the sexual abuse that is far too pervasive in the music industry. Warning: Content may include sexual abuse and assault triggers. Please take any necessary precautions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Change is scary, but sometimes the bigger the risk, the bigger the reward. Join Joe and Toby as they explore the history of artists that have changed musical genres and found equal — or sometimes greater — success. They'll look at pop artists like Katy Perry and Amy Grant that began their careers in Christian music, and metalheads like Michael Bolton (!) who then switched to pop. All good things must come around again, so they’ll finish up with Darius Rucker, his detour from pop into country, and his return to all things Hootie. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices