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| Risk-risk trade-offs - Felgenhauer | 10 mai 2025 | 00:57:45 | |
Tyler Felgenhauer and @geoengineering1 discuss risk-risk trade-offs.
Paper: Tyler Felgenhauer, Govindasamy Bala, Mark E Borsuk, Inés Camilloni, Jonathan B Wiener, Jianhua Xu, Practical paths to risk-risk analysis of solar radiation modification, Oxford Open Climate Change, Volume 5, Issue 1, 2025, kgaf012, https://doi.org/10.1093/oxfclm/kgaf012
Guest info: Tyler Felgenhauer, PhD; Senior Research Scientist; Research Director; The Duke Center on Risk; Duke University
link for the RFF workshop.
https://www.rff.org/events/conferences/2025-rff-and-harvard-srm-social-science-research-workshop-governance-in-a-fractured-world/
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| SRM, US & China - Nielsen | 04 mai 2025 | 01:34:26 | |
Jeffrey Nielsen and @geoengineering1 discuss how the strategic relationship between the US and China will interact with SRM.
Paper: Jeffrey Nielsen, The big green button: stratospheric aerosol injection as a geopolitical dilemma during strategic competition between the United States and China, and implications for expanding aerosol injection near-term research, Oxford Open Climate Change, Volume 5, Issue 1, 2025, kgaf009, https://doi.org/10.1093/oxfclm/kgaf009
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| Solar thermal DAC - Prats Salvado | 24 avr. 2025 | 01:12:46 | |
Enrico Prats Salvado discusses the benefits and challenges of using the sun's heat for DAC desorb. Paper Prats-Salvado, E., Monnerie, N. & Sattler, C. Powering Direct Air Capture: Overview of Existing Concepts and the Overlooked Role of Concentrated Solar Thermal Technologies. Curr Sustainable Renewable Energy Rep 12, 8 (2025). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40518-025-00255-y
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| Water alternating gas injection - Nelson (&dog) | 13 avr. 2025 | 01:34:32 | |
Claire Nelson, founder of Cella mineral storage, explains how underground injections of water alternating with CO2 might aid mineralsation.
Paper: Water-alternating-gas injections for optimized mineral carbon storage in basalt https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1750583624002263
Poppin' Fresh, more widely known as the Pillsbury Doughboy, is also, rather randomly, discussed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillsbury_Doughboy
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| Biotech in CDR - Reginato | 22 mars 2025 | 00:54:15 | |
Paul Reginato explains how biotech can be applied to CDR. Paper: Biotechnology in direct air capture, enhanced weathering, and methane removal: emerging opportunities and gaps. https://doi.org/10.3389/fclim.2024.1440833
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| Get in the sea! Sinkco x Riverse — Boehman & Dorr | 18 mars 2025 | 01:05:33 | |
Can we just throw carbon in the sea - like a mobile phone with incriminating evidence on? Brenna Boehman and Erica Dorr from Sinkco and Riverse come on to discuss their Marine Carbon Burial Methodology with @geoengineering1
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| Octavia carbon, Kenyan DAC - Freimüller | 07 mars 2025 | 01:00:08 | |
Martin Freimüller introduces Octavia Carbon, explaining how they're making DAC work in Kenya's Great Rift Valley. Hosted by @geoengineering1
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| Calychar hydrochar - Suleman | 27 févr. 2025 | 01:00:51 | |
Smoggies Humbul (Suleman), Omar, and Faizan discuss their research detailed in this press release https://www.tees.ac.uk/sections/news/pressreleases_story.cfm?story_id=8651
It's a fancy form of hydrochar, pimped by chemical manipulation.
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| COVID policy vs SRM policy - Patrick | 23 févr. 2025 | 01:24:41 | |
Can COVID policy be compared to geoengineering policy? Hosea Olayiwola Patrick discusses "Reflections on COVID-19 Adaptive Responses as a Template for Climate Intervention-Geoengineering Engagement" with @geoengineering1 https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202501.1715/v1
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| Sky whitening - Lemon | 08 févr. 2025 | 01:13:09 | |
Would a whiter sky be noticeable, under SAI geoengineering? Ansar Lemon discusses what humans and animals could see. Paper: Under a not so white sky: visual impacts of stratospheric aerosol injection - Ansar Lemon et al 2025 Environ. Res. Lett. 20 024060 DOI 10.1088/1748-9326/ada2ae
A link to his music is here https://youtu.be/EpQ7rnQTDDU?si=ubVwa7p45uZ9mw_q
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| OAE legality - Murthy | 12 janv. 2025 | 01:16:29 | |
Are you allowed to throw alkaline minerals into the sea? Ashwin Murthy explains how to do Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement, without ending up in jail.
Ashwin Murthy, Korey Silverman-Roati & Romany M. Webb, State Authority to Regulate Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement, Sabin Center for Climate Change Law, Columbia Law School, December 2024 (2024).
Available at: https://scholarship.law.columbia.edu/sabin_climate_change/237
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| SRM experts' opinions - McEvoy | 05 janv. 2025 | 01:00:42 | |
David McEvoy discusses expert opinions on SRM. What do they think, and how do we know?
The strategic and governance implications of solar radiation modification: perspectives from delegates of international climate negotiations
Todd L Cherry et al 2025 Environ. Res. Lett. 20 014053
DOI 10.1088/1748-9326/ad9d62
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| Historic emissions & CDR - Hahn | 28 déc. 2024 | 00:44:29 | |
Thomas Hahn discusses his paper on historical emissions and responsibility for them.
Hahn, T., Morfeldt, J., Höglund, R. et al. Estimating countries’ additional carbon accountability for closing the mitigation gap based on past and future emissions. Nat Commun 15, 9707 (2024). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-024-54039-x
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| Andean glaciers & SRM - Fernandez | 12 déc. 2024 | 01:00:19 | |
Is it too late for SRM to save South American glaciers? Alfonso Fernandez discusses his paper on the impact of SRM on the glaciers of the Andes.
Fernández, A., Manquehual-Cheuque, F. & Somos-Valenzuela, M. Impact of Solar Radiation Management on Andean glacier-wide surface mass balance. npj Clim Atmos Sci 7, 257 (2024). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41612-024-00807-x
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| AGU SRM research ethics - Felgenhauer | 29 nov. 2024 | 01:02:28 | |
AGU Ethical Framework Principles for SRM research
Tyler Felgenhauer, Duke University
https://news.agu.org/press-release/ethical-framework-climate-intervention-research/
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| Gentoo.earth - Kirby | 18 nov. 2024 | 00:31:53 | |
Juliet Kirby explains how gentoo.earth uses AI to match carbon removal buyers and sellers. Despite @geoengineering1 trying his best to wind her up for lulz, she doesn't break character. NB this isn't paid promotion; gentoo hasn't sponsored this episode. No penguins (gentoo or otherwise) were harmed in the making of this episode.
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| Direct climate cooling overview - Baiman | 10 nov. 2024 | 01:03:32 | |
Ron Baiman discusses his expansive paper summarising all known SRM and other direct climate cooling techniques
https://academic.oup.com/oocc/article/4/1/kgae014/7731760
Plus his letter to the International Maritime Organization
https://academic.oup.com/oocc/article/4/1/kgae008/7706251
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| SRM ethics - Hofbauer | 30 oct. 2024 | 00:38:52 | |
Benjamin Hofbauer discusses 3 papers from his PhD, on the ethics of Solar geoengineering.
Hofbauer, B. (2023). Systemic risks and solar climate engineering research. Integrating technology ethics into the governance of systemic risks. Journal of Risk Research, 26(12), 1383–1395. https://doi.org/10.1080/13669877.2023.2288010
Hofbauer, B. (2023). Normative Uncertainty in Solar Climate Engineering Research Governance. Ethics, Policy & Environment, 1–20. https://doi.org/10.1080/21550085.2023.2216148
Benjamin Hofbauer. Techno-moral change through solar geoengineering: How geoengineering challenges sustainability. Prometheus. 2022. Vol. 38(1). DOI: 10.13169/prometheus.38.1.0082
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| Grain size in OAE - Moras | 23 oct. 2024 | 00:52:53 | |
Charly Moras explains how grain size affects reaction kinetics in ocean alkalinity enhancement. Paper:- Effects of grain size and seawater salinity on magnesium hydroxide dissolution and secondary calcium carbonate precipitation kinetics: implications for ocean alkalinity enhancement https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2024/egusphere-2024-645/
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| Is OIF undead? - Buesseler | 15 oct. 2024 | 00:58:15 | |
In this spooky Halloween episode, @geoengineering1 and Ken Buesseler investigate alleged sightings of Ocean Iron Fertilisation - which is rumoured to have risen from its unquiet grave. Paper: Next steps for assessing ocean iron fertilization for marine carbon dioxide removal. https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/climate/articles/10.3389/fclim.2024.1430957
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| Is cirrus thinning dead? Jeggle | 06 oct. 2024 | 00:57:49 | |
Kai Jeggle explains to @geoengineering1 how off-target effects of cirrus cloud thinning mean that it can never be used effectively. Paper; Jeggle, K., Neubauer, D., Binder, H., and Lohmann, U.: Cirrus formation regimes – Data driven identification and quantification of mineral dust effect, EGUsphere [preprint], https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-2559, 2024.
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| Wood Vaulting - Zeng | 28 sept. 2024 | 00:43:37 | |
Got wood? Looking for somewhere to stick it? Ning Zeng can solve your problem! @geoengineering1 learns all about how to do it properly.
Zeng, N., Hausmann, H. Wood Vault: remove atmospheric CO2 with trees, store wood for carbon sequestration for now and as biomass, bioenergy and carbon reserve for the future. Carbon Balance Manage 17, 2 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1186/s13021-022-00202-0
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| Coastal enhanced weathering - Geerts | 21 sept. 2024 | 00:45:49 | |
Do not adjust your set; the fidelity of this recording is particularly poor. Luna Geerts and @geoengineering1 discuss coastal enhanced weathering of olivine. The paper is/was open to review, here. https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2024/egusphere-2024-1824/
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| Near term Arctic SRM - Wake Smith | 15 sept. 2024 | 01:22:21 | |
What would a mid-century polar geoengineering program look like? What airports and aircraft would be needed - and at what cost? Wake Smith answers all these questions.
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| Extra-tropical cyclones - Reboita | 04 juil. 2024 | 00:44:20 | |
How does SAI affect extra-tropical cyclones? Michelle Simões Reboita explains during a tight interview slot, but @geoengineering1 fails to understand (it takes him at least an hour to understand ANYTHING). With fluency approaching that of the Trump Biden debate, he stumbles through the episode, only occasionally realising where he is and what he's doing. Can anyone do a better job? Please tweet us, if you can... Please?
Paper: Response of the Southern Hemisphere extratropical cyclone climatology to climate intervention with stratospheric aerosol injection. https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/2752-5295/ad519e/meta
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| Controlling MCB - Walker Lee Part 1 | 12 mai 2024 | 01:16:35 | |
What control can we exercise over MCB? Should it be confined to small, climatically sensitive areas - or expanded at great cost, to minimise inter-regional disparities? Walker Lee discusses the issue in depth. (See PT 2 for a discussion on disability and diversity).
Jack's first paper: https://doi.org/10.22541/essoar.171322700.02512514/v1
Jack's second paper: https://doi.org/10.22541/essoar.171201044.45268441/v1
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| Disability & ideological diversity in academia - Walker Lee, Part 2 | 12 mai 2024 | 00:28:12 | |
We've extracted this very interesting discussion from Walker Lee's new episode, because a) it's a standalone section and b) the main episode was already quite long. Here, Walker Lee describes in vibrant and very personal terms his own academic journey, touching on important issues of ideological diversity and disability discrimination. It's not trad R2, but we liked it. Enjoy!
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| Warm pool & SAI - Günther (FIXED) | 04 mai 2024 | 01:27:07 | |
Moritz Günther tries valiantly to get @geoengineering1 to understand the atmospheric dynamics of SAI's impacts on the warm pool, but it's rather like watching him trying to train a baboon to use Photoshop - there's some engagement, and the occasional flash of comprehension before it all gets too much for him.
NB this is the FIXED version - the original had a couple of important errors of sign from Günther. If you've listen to the old version, pls see this important author note "the part where I say it's destabilising... should actually be stabilising... roughly at 1:10:30 - 1:11:00. The part where I say we would need less aerosol if the Brewer-Dobson circulation mechanism exists but we would actually need more is around 1:21:30 - 1:22:00." (timestamps from old episode) And BTW, props to him for a) checking b) fessing up. Science progresses one correction at a time.
Günther, M., Schmidt, H., Timmreck, C., and Toohey, M.: Why does stratospheric aerosol forcing strongly cool the warm pool?, EGUsphere [preprint], https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-429, 2024.
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| SAI and international conflict - Morrissey | 16 avr. 2024 | 01:24:52 | |
William Morrissey explains how SAI could lead to conflict and counter-geoengineering. @geoengineering1 isn't convinced it will all end so badly.
Avoiding atmospheric anarchy: Geoengineering as a source of interstate tension
William Morrissey
https://doi.org/10.1177/27538796231221597
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| Mass participation OAE tests - Bach | 13 avr. 2024 | 00:50:29 | |
Roll up! Roll up! Grab your buckets, and get ready to do a science! Bach is back (again) to discuss institutional collaboration and citizen science in OAE.
Bach, L. T., Ferderer, A. J., LaRoche, J., and Schulz, K. G.: Technical note: Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement Pelagic Impact Intercomparison Project (OAEPIIP), EGUsphere [preprint], https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2024-692, 2024
Identifying the Most (Cost-)Efficient Regions for CO2 Removal With Iron Fertilization in the Southern Ocean
Lennart T. Bach, Veronica Tamsitt, Kimberlee Baldry, Jeffrey McGee, Emmanuel C. Laurenceau-Cornec, Robert F. Strzepek, Yinghuan Xie, Philip W. Boyd
First published: 16 November 2023
https://doi.org/10.1029/2023GB007754
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| Holocene DAC, chemistry & biz - Timofte | 07 avr. 2024 | 01:22:09 | |
How do you establish and grow a DAC company? Anca Timofte has utilised a career leg-up from Climeworks to start her own DAC outfit, with some pretty fancy chemistry. @geoengineering1 gets the lowdown on how she did it - and what the future challenges are https://theholocene.co/
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| Who gets to use CDR? - Bellona; Paul | 06 avr. 2024 | 01:06:18 | |
Is the supply of carbon removal fundamentally limited, and how should it be allocated? Comrade Allanah Paul from Bellona sends @geoengineering1 to the reeducation camps in an attempt to expunge his bourgeois thinking. report: https://www.negemproject.eu/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/D6.5_Who-should-use-NETPS.pdf
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| Olivine ecotoxicity - Flipkens | 02 avr. 2024 | 00:48:46 | |
Gunter Flipkens explains why everyone is worried about heavy metals leaching from olivine coastal weathering experiments. Then he explains how he tests the exact toxicity to animals, plus how to reduce it. Thesis link https://www.researchgate.net/publication/379406915_Coastal_enhanced_olivine_weathering_for_climate_change_mitigation_investigating_the_CO2_sequestration_potential_and_ecotoxicological_risks
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| MCB with drones - Claudel | 12 mars 2024 | 01:37:39 | |
Christian Claudel comes on to explore the issues around using drones to distribute MCB particles. These are made by anti-solvent precipitation (much like diluting Ricard spirit). Despite @geoengineering1 being AN ACTUAL AUTHOR on the paper he still finds plenty of opportunities for nitpicking.
Paper: Marine-cloud brightening: an airborne concept
Christian Claudel, Andrew John Lockley, Fabian Hoffmann and Younan Xia
DOI 10.1088/2515-7620/ad2f71
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| Littoral weathering & academic culture - Fuhr | 12 mars 2024 | 01:12:26 | |
Michael Fuhr gives @geoengineering1 news on what happens when you throw rocks in the sea (yawn). Then they go on a massive rant about how Gen Z academics don't know how to party anymore (yey!). But which one of them ended a conference locked in a laundry cage being rolled through a hotel foyer? Find out, inside.
Paper
https://doi.org/10.3389/fclim.2024.1338556
This article is part of the Research Topic
Quantifying Carbon Removal by Negative Emissions Technologies
Alkaline mineral addition to anoxic to hypoxic Baltic Sea sediments as a potentially efficient CO2-removal technique
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| Future of CDR - Hoglund | 09 mars 2024 | 01:28:06 | |
What could be the eventual scale of the CDR market? What technologies will it use? And how do choices made today affect where it ends up? Robert Hoglund discusses with @geoengineering1
Some works discussed
CDR.fyi annual report
https://www.cdr.fyi/blog/2023-year-in-review
Carbon removal is not a finite resource
https://marginalcarbon.substack.com/p/carbon-removal-is-not-a-finite-resource
Emergent methane mitigation and removal approaches: A review
Ishita Mundra, Andrew Lockley
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.aeaoa.2023.100223
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| Stratospheric dehydration - Schwarz | 08 mars 2024 | 01:22:45 | |
Joshua Schwarz explains how dispersing ice nucleating particles in one tiny region of the tropical tropopause layer off Northern Australia can address around 1pc of global warming. He also discusses his involvement in the SABRE stratospheric flights. Paper: Considering intentional stratospheric dehydration for climate benefits
DOI: 10.1126/sciadv.adk0593
Other papers discussed
Pyrocumulonimbus affect average stratospheric aerosol composition
J. M. KATICH
DOI: 10.1126/science.add3101
Marine-cloud brightening: an airborne concept
Christian Claudel, Andrew John Lockley, Fabian Hoffmann and Younan Xia
DOI 10.1088/2515-7620/ad2f71
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| Messing with nature - Woodhouse | 22 janv. 2024 | 01:22:34 | |
What is nature? Does it matter beyond its direct usefulness? Do animals only have rights if they're conscious? When did man become morally responsible for environmental degradation? When can and should we fiddle with the natural world? Elliott Woodhouse explains the differing views to @geoengineering1. A blog post is available, summarising his PhD https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/lc3m/blogs/phd-spotlight-elliott-woodhouses-ethics-climate-engineering
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| Agent based models - Perkins | 19 janv. 2024 | 01:07:45 | |
NPC vs IAM. Oliver Perkins explains why simple agent-based models (non playable characters, if you like) might outperform the integrated assessment models that have led to such outlandish predictions for CDR.
Paper: Toward quantification of the feasible potential of land-based carbon dioxide removal
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.oneear.2023.11.011
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| Sorbents for all seasons - Jones | 09 janv. 2024 | 01:29:06 | |
The highly prolific Chris Jones thoroughly intimidates the normally boisterous @geoengineering1, while discussing sorbents that can tolerate a wide range of climate conditions.
Paper Sub-Ambient Temperature Direct Air Capture of CO2 using Amine-Impregnated MIL-101(Cr) Enables Ambient Temperature CO2 Recovery
https://doi.org/10.1021/jacsau.1c00414
Here's some more links about Chris and the subjects discussed in this episode.
DAC bibliometric analysis
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2772826922000086
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S277282692300010X
DirACC Publication list (GT DAC Center)
https://sites.gatech.edu/dac-center/publications/
Jones web page:
https://jones.chbe.gatech.edu/dr-jones/
Jones Google Scholar page:
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ltWKpYgAAAAJ&hl=en
Jones Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_W._Jones
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| Blue carbon - Reithmaier | 03 janv. 2024 | 00:51:26 | |
Gloria Reithmaier talks to @geoengineering1 about coastal blue carbon, work/life balance, and being a mum in academia. Paper: Reithmaier, G.M.S., Cabral, A., Akhand, A. et al. Carbonate chemistry and carbon sequestration driven by inorganic carbon outwelling from mangroves and saltmarshes. Nat Commun 14, 8196 (2023). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-023-44037-w
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| Festive Holly (Jean Buck) | 25 déc. 2023 | 01:21:12 | |
Celebrate Xmas day with Holly, discussing Solar geoengineering research in the global public interest: A proposal for how to do it https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590332223005481
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| How to support a sunshade - Maheswaran | 23 déc. 2023 | 01:16:22 | |
How can you make a sunshade stay in place? How can you make it beam down solar power to Earth? @geoengineering1 finds out from Tharshan Maheswaran.
Paper - International planetary sunshade concept with a function-integrated and scalable support structure based on coreless filament winding DOI 10.1088/1742-6596/2526/1/012113
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| Ethics of Volcano Geoengineering - Cassidy | 13 déc. 2023 | 01:03:54 | |
Should the army be allowed to blow people up with a volcano? If your geothermal power plant triggers an eruption, is that just a risk of doing business? Should we fiddle with volcanoes to make them safer? Is even researching this opening a can of worms? Gideon Futurman interviews Michael Cassidy (giving @geoengineering1 a month long editing nightmare, but with results we hope you'll like).
Paper: The Ethics of Volcano Geoengineering
Michael Cassidy, Anders Sandberg, Lara Mani
https://doi.org/10.1029/2023EF003714
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| HPAC takeover! Overshoot commission - Field | 21 nov. 2023 | 01:04:23 | |
"Good afternoon, Reviewer 2 listeners. Some of us at the Healthy Planet Action Coalition (www.healthyplanetaction.org) have noticed that a few months ago Reviewer 2 experienced a security breach orchestrated by archrival Challenging Climate. Now normally we would refrain from taking advantage of poor Reviewer 2, but we sensed an opportunity that we couldn’t resist and decided to jump into the breach with this discussion about the recent report of the Climate Overshoot Commission (COC) between Chris Field, Stanford Professor and advisor to the COC, and Mike MacCracken, HPAC Steering Circle member and former Executive Director of the Office of the US Global Change Research Program.
The Climate Overshoot Commission report "Reducing the Risks of Climate Overshoot" was released on September 14: https://www.overshootcommission.org/_files/ugd/0c3b70_bab3b3c1cd394745b387a594c9a68e2b.pdf. While the COC did not solicit public input, it did hold a series of meetings to learn and discuss the full range of questions facing the international community in dealing with the risk of climate overshoot. Their 4-part high-level recommendations were summarized in the acronym CARE, for Cut (emissions), Adapt, Remove (CO2), and Explore (SRM). Specifically, its recommendation on climate intervention advocated expanding research while placing "a moratorium on the deployment of solar radiation modification and large-scale outdoor experiments that would carry risk of significant trans-boundary harm. "
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| Pinatubo’s effect on ozone - Peng | 28 oct. 2023 | 00:47:41 | |
Want to know *exactly* how Pinatubo affected ozone? After a marathon 6h edit, @geoengineering1 has finally managed to get this Yifeng Peng interview sounding OK. Paper: Perturbation of Tropical Stratospheric Ozone Through Homogeneous and Heterogeneous Chemistry Due To Pinatubo https://doi.org/10.1029/2023GL103773
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| Cloud seeding law - Simon | 28 oct. 2023 | 01:05:09 | |
Manon Simon discusses her thesis on the legal overlap between cloud seeding and MCB. What can we learn and apply from decades of cloud seeding regulation?
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| "Year of the slags" - Bullock | 20 oct. 2023 | 00:49:23 | |
Liam Bullock talks about his Horizon-funded work on slags, tailings and overburden. How can these different wastes be used for CO2 removal?
International Journal of Greenhouse Gas Control
Volume 129, October 2023, 103990
Experimental investigation of multiple industrial wastes for carbon dioxide removal strategies
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ijggc.2023.103990
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| Can we trust SRM papers? Reynolds | 29 sept. 2023 | 01:00:23 | |
Jesse Reynolds shows how many SRM papers overestimate risks and underestimate benefits.
Paper: "Communication of Solar Geoengineering Science: Forms, Examples, and Explanation of Skewing" https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/20530196221095569
More papers are at https://jreynolds.org/
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| Does SRM's location affect global temperature? Zhang | 25 sept. 2023 | 01:05:52 | |
The Radiative Forcing Pattern Effect on Climate Sensitivity
https://essopenarchive.org/users/535851/articles/655683-the-radiative-forcing-pattern-effect-on-climate-sensitivity
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