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Podcast REFS NEED LOVE TOO

REFS NEED LOVE TOO

David Gerson

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Fréquence : 1 épisode/13j. Total Éps: 107

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An honest perspective from the 3rd team on the pitch... the referees. Through humor, analysis and education, we are slowly changing how people view referees and officials in all sports. We care and have a love for the game as much as any player or coach. Sometimes even more. Youth soccer (proper football) is a multi-billion $ industry in the US. Tremendous money is spent on players, competitions, travel etc., but almost nothing spent on developing the next generation of referees. I hope that this Podcast inspires, educates and humanizes the next generation of referees for their own development and appreciation from the players, coaches and spectators they need to work alongside. 

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From Haters To Hardware: Making Better Buzzer Flags For All Referees

samedi 8 novembre 2025Durée 45:14

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Tired of holding your flag up for Offside, while the whole sideline screams “REF!”? We go straight at the problem and bring on engineer and referee Sam Rall, the creator of RareBit Offcial buzzer flags. He shows how a simple haptic signal can transform crew communication, reduce chaos, and keep matches flowing. 

David opens with the bigger picture—why innovation in referee education meets resistance from comfortable committees—and then we zoom into the design and decisions that make a better tool: modern Bluetooth 5 for reliable range, firmware that boosts power only when needed, and an ergonomic, slightly elliptical grip that feels right for 90 minutes and beyond.

Sam takes us from sticker shock to solution. He breaks down how legacy electronic flags cost hundreds more than their parts, why redundancy matters even with comms, and where a buzz beats a shout: delayed offside, coffin-corner touchlines, quick subs, and review awareness. We map out practical pregame logic—press without flag to cue involvement questions, distinct patterns for AR1, AR2, or fourth official—turning a basic button into a shared language that prevents confusion after the net ripples.

Building hardware isn’t glamorous. Sam shares the five-year journey through prototypes, molds, dead boards, firmware bugs, and the realities of a niche market where American refs often buy their own gear. The payoff is real: long battery life with USB C charging, waterproof construction, and sets that sell out because they simply work. Along the way, David makes the case for builder-led progress in officiating—tools made by refs, for refs, at a price that brings pro-level communication within reach of the grassroots.

If you believe better decisions start with better tools, you’ll love this one. Subscribe, share with your crew, and leave a review to help more referees find gear and ideas that make the game better for everyone.

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A Young Ref Stands Up To Abuse And Finds Her Voice: Special Guest Mia Clark

samedi 25 octobre 2025Durée 42:17

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The whistle isn’t the hard part. It’s the noise around it—sidelines boiling over, subtle bias that undermines authority, and those early games where one bad interaction can end a career before it starts. We sit down with rising official Mia Clark to talk about staying in the game, building real confidence, and why supporting women on the whistle changes everything.

Mia traces her path from a 14-year-old assistant learning the lines in the rain to assignments in the USLW and high school state playoffs. She shares the moments that almost pushed her out, the mentors who kept her grounded, and a simple, firm script that turns chaos into clarity: address the negative behavior, set boundaries and enforce consequences. 

Along the way, we cover practical tools for young refs—rehearsed language for dissent and when to demand crowd management or terminate a match. Mia’s stories reveal how small choices by assistants, coaches, and athletic directors can empower or erode a center’s authority. 

We also make the case for refereeing as a flexible, high-value job for students that builds decision-making, conflict resolution, and composure under pressure. And we spotlight why seeing women command a match matters for every player, parent, and future official.

If you care about better soccer, safer games, and keeping good people on the field, this conversation is a blueprint. Listen, share with your crew, and help change the culture one match at a time. Subscribe, leave a review, and tell us: what’s your go-to line for handling dissent?

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Life Lessons and Pregame Checklists: Finding Joy On and Off the Pitch

dimanche 25 mai 2025Durée 45:22

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Ever wonder how to stay passionate while juggling multiple demanding roles? This candid episode dives into the reality of balancing life as a referee, business professional, content creator, and parent during an especially hectic season.

David shares his journey through a particularly intense period—working full-time in sales and marketing for Hip Hues, running Refs Need Love Too, and preparing for his daughter's high school graduation while managing to referee challenging matches. Rather than feeling overwhelmed, he's discovered a powerful mindset shift that transforms exhaustion into fulfillment: consistently asking "Is what I'm doing getting me closer to my goal?"

The heart of the episode features a detailed walkthrough of David's newly launched referee cards with comprehensive pregame checklists printed on the back. This innovative tool provides referees with critical reminders about field inspection, coach interactions, substitution procedures, offside considerations, and foul management—all designed to boost confidence and crew cohesion during matches.

Particularly moving are the letters from the mailbag, including stories of young referees successfully implementing the new referee abuse guidelines and finding their voice on the pitch. These testimonials highlight how proper support systems can transform potentially career-ending negative experiences into powerful growth opportunities.

David also breaks down his recent experience officiating a challenging UPSL semi-professional match at age 50, complete with 12 cards, 5.7 miles of running, and valuable game management lessons. His account illustrates why pushing beyond comfort zones leads to greater satisfaction and skill development in officiating.

The episode closes with a poignant reminder about family priorities—with all three of his children home for potentially the last summer together, David emphasizes the importance of seizing these precious moments despite busy schedules. 

Visit the Refs Need Love Too store to check out the new referee cards and other products designed to make your officiating journey more successful and enjoyable. Use code "refsneedlovetoo" for special discounts on partner products from Umpiro and Ref6.

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The Path to NCAA College Soccer Officiating: A Conversation with John Collins

samedi 17 mai 2025Durée 52:37

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Ever wondered what it takes to officiate at the collegiate level? John Collins, the National Coordinator of Men's and Women's Soccer Officials for the NCAA, pulls back the curtain on a world that represents both challenge and opportunity for advancing referees.

With college soccer now boasting the largest officiating pool in NCAA sports—over 5,380 registered officials—Collins reveals the pathways to breaking into this level. "If you're working at the top youth level and at the amateur level, NCAA soccer is probably a fit for you," he explains, detailing how referees typically move from high-level youth matches to college assignments through networking and regional organizations. The conversation delves into how college soccer strategically positions itself between top amateur competitions and professional matches, creating a unique environment where officials can develop and thrive.

Collins, who balances his NCAA leadership role with a career in finance, brings perspectives from his own journey as both collegiate goalkeeper and national referee. His insights on evaluation criteria are particularly valuable: "We're looking for critical, skillful thinkers that can manage games, apply the laws, manage participants, and they've got to be good athletes." This emphasis on critical thinking challenges the simplistic "keep it simple" mantra that many referees learn at grassroots levels.

The discussion also addresses the evolving relationship between NCAA and IFAB rules, referee shortage challenges, and the critical importance of experiential learning and community-building for referee development. Whether you're considering collegiate officiating or simply interested in understanding the referee pathway better, Collins offers wisdom applicable to officials at every level, including his personal philosophy: "Plan for the unexpected."

Ready to explore collegiate officiating opportunities? Email ncaasoccerofficials@gmail.com to learn how to connect with conference assigners or NISOA chapters in your region.

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From Center Back to Life Coach: Soccer's Mental Game with MLS Legend Michael Parkhust

vendredi 2 mai 2025Durée 48:38

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What does it take to excel as a defender when you don't fit the physical prototype? Michael Parkhurst, who captained Atlanta United to their 2018 MLS Cup victory, reveals how his mind became his greatest strength on the soccer pitch.

"My brain was my biggest asset," Parkhurst explains, detailing how he compensated for lacking the traditional center back qualities of height, strength, and aerial prowess. This mental approach not only fueled his remarkable professional career but also inspired his current mission helping young players develop beyond their technical abilities.

After watching talented academy players fail to earn second contracts despite their skills, Parkhurst co-founded Beyond Goals Mentoring with former teammate Greg Garza. Their organization addresses the immense pressure facing today's young players and teaches the often-overlooked mental skills crucial for success. From building resilience and confidence to developing leadership and emotional control, these tools serve athletes both on and off the pitch.

The conversation offers valuable insights for players, coaches, and referees alike. Parkhurst breaks down what makes a great referee from a player's perspective: mutual respect, clear communication, and consistency. He provides practical advice on player-referee interactions, emphasizing respectful dialogue and emotional management during heated moments.

Parents will find particular value in Parkhurst's observations about sideline behavior and how it affects both player development and referee retention. His perspective highlights how well-meaning parents often undermine their children's growth by removing opportunities to learn through mistakes and develop decision-making skills.

Whether you're a player looking to elevate your mental game, a referee seeking to understand the player's mindset, or a parent supporting a young athlete, this episode delivers practical wisdom from someone who reached soccer's highest levels through intelligence rather than physical dominance. Visit beyondgoalsmentoring.com to learn more about developing the complete athlete.

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Passport to the Pitch with TravelRef: A Guide to Traveling as a Referee

vendredi 25 avril 2025Durée 41:07

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Have you ever wondered how the best soccer referees reach the pinnacle of their profession? For national referee Bowen Taylor, the answer lies in stepping out of your comfort zone and traveling to officiate matches across the country.

At just 25 years old, Bowen has already achieved what many referees dream of – earning his national badge and working professional matches in leagues like USL Championship and MLS Next Pro. His secret weapon? Using travel as a catalyst for growth. When you officiate unfamiliar teams on unfamiliar fields with unfamiliar colleagues, you develop adaptability and confidence that transforms your refereeing forever.

In this revealing conversation, Bowen shares how he made the bold decision as a college-aged player to pursue refereeing full-time, recognizing that his potential in officiating far exceeded his prospects as a D2 backup. That decision led him to tournaments across the country, where he strategically sought feedback from national referee coaches and built a support network of colleagues who understand the unique challenges of the profession.

Now, Bowen is making these same opportunities accessible to all referees through Travel Ref, a free platform connecting officials with tournaments nationwide. From prestigious youth competitions to local events in beautiful destinations, the service helps referees find matches that match their qualifications while handling all the logistical complications that previously made tournament travel mysterious and difficult.

Whether you're an ambitious referee looking to advance through the ranks or simply seeking to combine your passion for officiating with seeing new parts of the country, this episode offers practical advice on making referee travel work for you. Bowen's tips on maintaining professionalism, preparing for different environmental conditions, and maximizing feedback opportunities provide a roadmap for successful referee adventures.

Create your free profile at travelref.com and discover how stepping onto new fields might be the key to unlocking your potential as a referee. Your next whistle could be in Miami, Colorado, South Dakota, or beyond – where will your referee journey take you?

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Protecting Refs: Safety vs. Traditional Uniform Standards

dimanche 20 avril 2025Durée 42:05

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The soccer referee uniform has become an unexpected battleground where tradition, practicality, and safety collide. Drawing from over 11 years and 1,300 matches of experience, I share my frustration with the often unreasonable uniform standards imposed on grassroots referees that sometimes compromise their health and wellbeing.

Despite US Soccer officially approving hats as part of the referee uniform, many senior officials still pressure referees to forego this essential sun protection. This isn't just about appearance—it's a serious health concern. Many long-time referees have developed skin cancers and eye conditions from prolonged sun exposure. When you're working multiple matches in scorching summer tournaments, a black baseball cap isn't just sensible; it's necessary protection against potentially life-threatening conditions.

The uniform monopoly in American soccer creates another significant barrier. Unlike other countries where referees can wear any black shirt with their federation badge, American referees must purchase expensive Official Sports International gear—over $50 per jersey across five different colors. This financial burden becomes especially prohibitive for new officials just entering the profession.

What truly matters for the 98% of us working grassroots matches? A clean, tucked-in USSF Style Jersey, proper black shorts, socks and appropriate footwear create a professional appearance without obsessing over minor details. Yes, regional and national referees pursuing promotion should adhere to stricter standards, but for everyone else, reasonable accommodations for weather and comfort should be prioritized.

We lose 80% of new referees within three years due to abuse and inadequate support—not because they wore a hat to protect themselves from the sun. If we want to develop and retain quality officials, we need to focus on skills like positioning, communication, and game management rather than nitpicking uniform details that have little impact on match quality.

Does your approach to referee development focus on what truly matters? Join the conversation about finding the right balance between professional appearance and practical concerns in the beautiful game.

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Changing the Game: The Renegade Lawyer Referee Ben Glass on Soccer's Culture Problem

samedi 12 avril 2025Durée 56:03

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What happens when we normalize abuse toward the most vulnerable members of our sports community? David Gerson, host of Refs Need Love Too, joins attorney Ben Glass on the Renegade Lawyer podcast to tackle one of youth sports' most pervasive problems—referee abuse and its devastating impact on officiating retention.

This raw, revealing conversation explores the alarming statistics: we've lost over 30% of certified soccer referees since 2019, with 80% of new officials quitting within three years primarily due to sideline abuse. David shares powerful personal stories, including the moment his teenage son nearly walked away from officiating after being confronted by an aggressive adult player, highlighting the human cost behind these numbers.

The discussion takes an encouraging turn as David reveals his behind-the-scenes work developing US Soccer's comprehensive new referee abuse policies. These groundbreaking guidelines establish clear boundaries between emotional expression and unacceptable behavior, with meaningful consequences—including triple sanctions when directed at minor officials. Meanwhile, states like Virginia are implementing landmark legislation making even verbal threats against officials a class one misdemeanor.

Both David and Ben, with over 60 combined years of officiating experience, offer practical wisdom for creating safer environments. They explore the puzzling double standard where children are protected as players but subjected to abuse as referees, and share strategies for addressing dissent before it escalates. Their conversation illuminates a path forward where respect for officials enhances the game experience for everyone involved.

Whether you're a parent, coach, player, or official, this episode offers actionable insights into breaking the cycle of abuse and building a youth sports culture that prioritizes both competitive excellence and human dignity. Subscribe to Refs Need Love 2 for more behind-the-scenes perspectives on transforming sports culture from the referee's vantage point.

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Untold Sacrifice: Balancing Life, Career and being a Pro Referee with Melisssa Gonzalez

dimanche 16 mars 2025Durée 38:55

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What does it really take to officiate at soccer's highest levels while maintaining a corporate career?Pro assistant referee Melissa Gonzalez pulls back the curtain on the demanding reality behind the flags and whistles.

"The perception is this is my full-time job, but it's not," Gonzalez reveals, describing her meticulous scheduling between IT project management responsibilities and professional refereeing commitments. Unlike many officials who map out deliberate career paths, Melissa's journey began simply with curiosity and the need for college spending money. Her progression came through consistently showing up, performing well, and remaining open to unexpected opportunities.

Standing at just 5'2", Gonzalez defied those who said she could never pass the men's FIFA fitness test, showcasing the determination that defines her career. Her transition from center referee to assistant referee highlights an often overlooked path in officiating – one requiring exceptional adaptability to work with different center referees and their unique communication styles.

Perhaps most compelling is Melissa's candid discussion of gender discrimination throughout her career. From being told she "belonged in the kitchen" to questioning her knowledge of the game, she faced barriers that could have derailed her passion. Instead, she transformed these challenges into character-building opportunities. "Refereeing as a female builds you as an individual," she explains, crediting the profession for developing resilience that extends into all aspects of life.

Whether you're a young referee facing abuse or an experienced official looking to advance, Gonzalez offers simple but powerful wisdom: "Accept failure, learn from it, and keep showing up with a great attitude." Her journey reminds us that the rewards of refereeing – professional opportunities, personal growth, and community connections – come to those who persist through challenges with passion and determination.

Want to connect with other referees or share your own experiences? Reach out through the Refs Need Love Too channel, where the referee community continues to grow and support each other through the beautiful game's most challenging role.

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Mastering Game Management: Insights from FIFA Referee Ismail Elfath

dimanche 2 mars 2025Durée 37:45

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Join us for a captivating conversation with Ismail Elfath, a FIFA International Referee who has officiated matches on the world stage. Throughout the episode, Ismail outlines the critical skills of game management and the significance of body language and authority in establishing respect from players. He shares personal stories and advice that showcase what it means to be not just a referee, but a figure of stability on the pitch.

Listeners will gain insight into the balance required to assert authority while maintaining empathy—essential for successful officiating. Ismail illustrates this through discussions on his early experiences, the importance of mentorship, and the critical lessons learned through years of dedication. Additionally, he recounts a heartwarming moment when he officiated a game for his son, providing a unique perspective on the emotional ties that exist in sports officiating.

Whether you’re a seasoned referee, a newcomer, or just a fan of the game, this episode offers impactful advice and touching stories. After listening, connect with us on social media to share your thoughts or favorite moments from the podcast. Together, let’s keep the conversation going about the vital role of referees in sports!

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