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Ready to publish The gospel is bigger than personal assurance, bigger than moral reform, and bigger than the way most Christians think salvation works. Jon Moffat and Doug Van Dorn trace how Scripture connects Babel, Pentecost, Abraham, Psalm 82, and the Great Commission to show why the gospel is the power of God for the nations.This conversation takes a hard look at law-gospel confusion and why it so often leaves both nominal Christians and true believers stuck in doubt. Jon explains how salvation includes the whole person and the whole world, while Doug unpacks how Paul’s language in Romans frames the gospel as the power that brings people out of darkness and into the obedience of faith.You'll discover:

    •    Why Romans 1:5 is about apostolic mission to the nations, not a proof text for salvation by works

    •    How Galatians 3 exposes the clash between Spirit, faith, flesh, and law

    •    The connection between Babel and Pentecost that changes how you read Acts 2

    •    How Deuteronomy 32 and Psalm 82 frame the nations, spiritual powers, and Christ’s inheritance

    •    Why Jesus’ death, resurrection, and authority in Matthew 28 are cosmic, not merely individual

Jon and Doug also show why Abraham’s story matters more than modern moralism allows, and why the church loses something vital when it treats the law as the engine of transformation. The result is a clearer, more powerful picture of what the gospel actually does - it saves, sanctifies, and restores.If you’ve ever wondered why assurance feels fragile, why the supernatural keeps getting pushed out of Christianity, or how the Bible’s big story fits together, this episode will challenge and reframe the whole discussion. Essential listening for anyone who wants the gospel to be more than advice.

Who stood in the bush? Who wrestled Jacob? Who bears the Name and still gets sent by Yahweh? Matt Foreman and Doug Van Dorn walk the biblical theology of The Angel of the LORD—the Word, the Name, the Glory, the Face—and why this figure is the pre-incarnate Son, not a created messenger. If he isn’t Christ, you’re left with two gods.
Part 1 walks the biblical theology of The Angel of the LORD—the Word, the Name, the Glory, the Face—and why Jesus did not first appear in Matthew.
Part 2 takes us on a history of interpretation and why it matters that the Angel of the Lord is Christ in the OT. 

Who stood in the bush? Who wrestled Jacob? Who bears the Name and still gets sent by Yahweh? Matt Foreman and Doug Van Dorn walk the biblical theology of The Angel of the LORD—the Word, the Name, the Glory, the Face—and why this figure is the pre-incarnate Son, not a created messenger. If he isn’t Christ, you’re left with two gods.

Part 1 walks the biblical theology of The Angel of the LORD—the Word, the Name, the Glory, the Face—and why Jesus did not first appear in Matthew.

Part 2 takes us on a history of interpretation and why it matters that the Angel of the Lord is Christ in the OT. 

Covenant theology is not a Presbyterian password and it is not a way to dissolve Israel into allegory. It is the Bible’s own architecture: an oath in eternity, a creation-order that bound man, the world, and the host of heaven, six typological covenants that climb toward Christ, and one New Covenant that actually saves. Doug walks through his Covenant Theology: A Reformed Baptist Primer book—Covenant of Redemption, Covenant of Creation (including angels), the almost-forgotten Covenant of Levi, and why the children of the New Covenant are believers, not infants by birth. The fringe is in the text. The Reformed part is the oath that holds it together.

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Gossip doesn’t sound all that bad. Slander does. How about lying, deceit, backbiting, insulting, reviling. Then there is strife, discord, jealousy, envy, rivalries, factions, and the like. All are caused by the tongue, a fire that no one can tame. That’s all bad enough, but do you realize just how connected all of this is to Satan, the Devil, and demonic supernatural evil? That’s what we’ll talk about on this program.

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In this episode we are talking about one of the stranger and enigmatic prophecies in the Bible: the infamous Gog ang Magog. The ties here are deeply supernatural, tied to the angelic princes of the nations and especially to the giant tribes and the nephilim storyline of the OT. One badly misunderstood tribe is at the root of this: the Amalekites. You won’t want to miss this. 

Were the Nephilim supernatural beings... or simply the result of godly men marrying ungodly women?
In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn respond to Dr. Jordan Cooper's five arguments against the supernatural view of Genesis 6. Rather than attacking personalities, they carefully examine the biblical text, church history, and the arguments themselves to ask one question:
What does Scripture actually say?
The discussion covers:
• The meaning of "sons of God" and "daughters of men" in Genesis 6
• Why the Nephilim matter to the overall story of redemption
• The connection between Genesis, Jude, 2 Peter, and the New Testament
• The role of giants throughout the Old Testament
• Why the early church overwhelmingly held the supernatural view
• How later interpretations changed and why that matters today
Whether you agree or disagree, our goal is to model careful exegesis, charitable interaction, and confidence in God's Word.
Resources Mentioned:
📖 The Giants by Doug Van Dorn
📖 The Battle for the Bible's Truth by Doug Van Dorn
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The Days of Noah Conference took place on June 22, 2026 up in Estes Park at my friend Adam’s Rocky Mountain Church. It was just this hour and a half session where we gave an intro on the divine council, giants, and how both are important for a 3-D, full color Christ-centered view of the Scripture. If you’re new to this stuff, this is the one for you. If you’re not, you will still get a lot out of it.  

We offered it. You spoke up and said you wanted it. Why is a Reformed pastor juice fasting for 20+ days?

In this fringe episode of Reformed Fringe, we dive into the surprising spiritual and physical benefits of juicing — something Doug’s been doing for 15 years. From rapid health resets and weight loss to the deeper biblical connections between fasting, discipline, and renewal, this isn’t your typical health talk.

If you’ve ever wondered whether something as “New Age” as juicing can fit in a Reformed worldview… this one’s for you.

🔥 Real talk. Real results. Real theology on the fringe.

Doug Van Dorn, David Spain, and Anthony Delgado treat us to a general conversation about one of our favorite topics! Biblical giants. Enjoy!

In this series, we are diving into Doug’s books, explaining why I wrote them, why you should read them, and going through what they are about. In this episode, we look at Doug’s very first book: Waters of Creation. Doug unpacks the heart and soul of the book and reveals baptism as an ancient temple rite. From the glassy sea in Revelation to the Tabernacle laver, from creation’s waters to Jesus’ own baptism at age 30, discover how Jesus fulfilled the Levitical ordination ceremony (Exodus 29) and how every believer is now commissioned as a priest in God’s living temple. This is not another debate about mode or recipients. It’s a fresh, biblical-theological vision of baptism that makes sense of the whole Bible — and changes how you live every day. If you’re looking for depth, beauty, and ancient truth for a new generation, this episode is for you.

For over twenty years, I have avoided preaching 1 Corinthians—its conundrums, factionalism, and bizarre debates made it feel inexplicable. Then a single verse in Acts (18:18) began to change all that: Paul cuts his hair right after leaving Corinth, where he had worn it long during his entire ministry there. This glaring contradiction with 1 Cor 11:14 (“long hair… a disgrace”) cracked open the passage.

In Razing Hair, I argues that Paul is not delivering transcendent rules about head coverings, hair length, or gender hierarchy. Those are issues of "disputable matters" and Christian liberty. He is being sarcastic—mocking the Corinthians’ obsession with outward appearances, cultural propriety, and contentious debates while their church is imploding morally. Only the core theological affirmations (Christ as head, mutual interdependence, God as ultimate covering) are spoken straight-faced; the rest skewers the vanity of these Christians with biting irony.

In this series, we are diving into Doug’s books, explaining why I wrote them, why you should read them, and going through what they are about. In this first episode of the series, we look at Doug’s newest book: The Battle for the Bible’s Truth. It exposes a Second Century plot by the Jewish rabbis and leadership to tamper with their own traditions, stories, interpretations, and texts because of Jesus’ claim to be the divine Messiah–the Son of God. This is a very important historical uncovering that shines the light not only on where interpretations such as the sons of God in Genesis 6 are Sethites comes from, but why it so very much matters to the person and work of Jesus Christ. At stake, ultimately speaking, is nothing short of his own Divinity. 

What if Adam and Eve didn’t just grab ordinary leaves… but tried to clothe themselves in the supposed glory of Satan’s rebellious ‘trees of Eden’—the fallen gods and fiery council members who envied each other on God’s holy mountain? From those desperate fig leaves in the cosmic garden, to God’s bloody animal skins, priestly robes of glory, and finally Revelation’s lightning-white multitude, uncover the epic biblical thread of clothing. God isn’t merely forgiving sinners—He’s replacing rebel elohim with redeemed humans robed in the perfect righteousness of Christ. Discover how the Angel of the LORD removes filthy garments and clothes His people for eternal reign.

You know the biblical story of Daniel. But you’ve never experienced it like this.

A breathtaking supernatural epic adventure of one of the most beloved heroes of the faith—retold with biblical and historical fidelity.

Daniel is young, sharp, full of faith, and newly captive to King Nebuchadnezzar.

But Babylon doesn’t want Daniel’s life—it wants his allegiance.

In the House of the Tablet, he’s trained to speak the empire’s language and learn its “wisdom,” along with fellow captive Jews, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah.

As long as they don’t notice the surrender happening one small choice at a time.

But the pressure isn’t only from priests and officials. The high priest’s son and his bully gang make Daniel a target, daring him to break and be made a eunuch.

Far away in Jerusalem, Ariela, the young girl Daniel loves, is fighting her own dangerous battle—as a secret messenger for Jeremiah the prophet.

Will she ever see her Daniel again? Will Jeremiah’s predictions of destruction be her own?

Above it all, another conflict rages: archangels move in secret, Watchers masquerade as gods of Babylon, Persia, and Greece, while Yahweh remains sovereign over kingdoms that think they rule the world.

Written by respected Christian author and best-seller Brian Godawa, this series is perfect for readers of C.S. Lewis, Tolkien, Narnia, Lord of the Rings, Ted Dekker, and Frank Peretti.

This novel is the first book of the Daniel Trilogy.

On this episode of The Reformed Fringe, special guest Matthew Yeomans has been living with the spiritually loaded condition of sleep paralysis. In his quest to understand his condition better, Matthew started videotaping himself in his sleep.  The next morning and the footage would reveal that during his sleep, his camera was capturing a lot more than what he expected.  Join us on this special episode of The Reformed Fringe!

A new book by the very founder of this Podcast, Jon Moffitt joins us and discusses his new and compelling book "The Bible According to Jesus"…what did Jesus teach us about how to read and understand His word? Truly exceptional teaching!

Doug and Adam’s final show in the series. We take a look at the Dragon in the Bible. Where does he come from? Who is he? And why is he the enemy of our faith? 

Doug and Adam take a deep dive on the mysteries of the Transfiguration of Jesus. We focus in especially on Mt. Hermon, with Jesus both at the bottom and the top of the mountain, as well as the “fall of Satan like lightning,” and how it refers not to the primordial fall of the devil, but the angry strike of a heavenly being who, now engaged that Jesus is the “beloved Son of God,” flashes to the ground in an attempt to put Jesus to death.  

Doug and Adam take a look at the state of the most basic Christian theological beliefs among Evangelicals according to a recent survey from Ligonier Ministries. The answers will shock you.

Something unsettling has been gathering in Colorado. From New Age and occult centers in Boulder to the bizarre world airport DIA east of Denver, Colorado has increasingly embraced a supernatural evil that stands at odds with a Christian worldview. Join us on this Episode of the Reformed Fringe from the hotel that inspired “The Shining” movie as we talk about the resurgent supernatural evil that has Colorado leading the rest of our States into darkness.

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Have you ever wondered how the Divine Author of the Bible might play an unseen role in giving us our biblical text? In this episode we explain what textual weaving is: the ancient art of writing where the author carefully arranges the words into invisible columns and rows — like threads on a loom — so that when you read them horizontally you get the story, but when you read them vertically you discover a whole new objective and fixed level of meaning that turns the story into a brilliant tapestry. In Ezekiel 16, God hides a perfect 7×3 grid inside 63 verses:
* One column for every nation and lover Israel chased
* One column for every idol and false god she worshiped
* One column right in the middle for the heart that forgot God The result? 
A chapter everyone calls “shocking” suddenly becomes a breathtaking picture of sin, judgment, and the God who atones for His unfaithful bride. If you’ve never heard of biblical weaving before, this episode will open your eyes to a whole new way of seeing Scripture — and show you why Ezekiel 16 isn’t just a hard chapter… it’s a masterpiece.

In this episode, Doug gives a talk summarizing the Cosmic War of the Sons of God series, but with particular focus on a couple of ideas not discussed in the series. There’s a little Divine Council overview from the Reformed perspective. There’s cosmic mountain ideas and how that actually ties to doctrine of covenants we Reformed folks like to discuss. The seventy is here as is the doctrine of election and how it pertains to the cosmic war. If you are interested in more, including early access to coming Fringe episodes, go to www.reformedfringe.com

Behold, what manner of love… that we should be called the sons of God” (1 John 3:1).
The story of the seventy: We flip the hourglass: heaven’s angelic sons once ruled; now, through Christ, humans reclaim dominion.
    •    Adam: Son of God, seated on Eden’s divine council—prophet, priest, king. He fell; nations given to 70 heavenly sons at Babel (Deut 32:8).
    •    Reversal: God elects the younger—Adam over angels, Israel over nations, Christ over all.
    •    Jesus: Second Adam, sends 70, crushes Satan, pours Spirit at Pentecost—Babel undone.
    •    Christians: Adopted sons, Spirit-led, judging angels (1 Cor 6:3), treading serpents, heirs with Christ.
Armor Up (Eph 6): Truth, righteousness, gospel, faith, salvation, Word.
The war rages, but victory’s won. Nothing separates us from Christ’s love (Rom 8:37–39).

Prepare to be captivated by the thrilling fourth installment of "The Cosmic War of the Sons of God" on the Reformed Fringe podcast, where we dive into the profound identity of Jesus as the Son of God. This episode unveils how Jesus, the eternal Son, stands at the center of a cosmic battle, bridging heaven and earth to reclaim the nations from fallen angelic powers. From Psalm 2’s declaration of the Son’s divine inheritance to his victorious confrontations with Satan at his birth, baptism, temptation, and resurrection, discover how Jesus’ identity as the Son of God dismantles the enemy’s stronghold. Uncover the shocking truth of how second-century rabbis altered key Old Testament texts to obscure Jesus’ divinity, and why this cosmic war matters for your faith today. Tune in to this episode to grasp the awe-inspiring power of Jesus, the Son of God, who conquers all spiritual forces and offers you redemption through his triumph—your hope in the battle depends on it!

Dive into the electrifying third installment of "The Cosmic War of the Sons of God" on the Reformed Fringe podcast, where we unravel the mysterious "sons of God" in the Old Testament. Doug will explore the shocking truth that these are not human figures but supernatural beings—angels tasked with ruling nations, yet some fell into rebellion, sparking a cosmic battle that reverberates through history. From Genesis 6’s enigmatic Nephilim to the divine council in Psalm 82, discover how these texts were altered by ancient rabbis to obscure Jesus’ divinity, revealing Satan’s schemes to undermine the Gospel. Listen to uncover why this war matters for your faith, how it connects to Jesus as the true Son of God, and why understanding this epic struggle will transform your view of Scripture and the spiritual realm. Tune in for a mind-bending journey that equips you to stand firm in the cosmic conflict!

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me" ... You're familiar with the commandment, but are you sure that you know what this means and all that it entails?  As we continue our 5 week series on the cosmic wars of heaven during this Reformation Month, we lay down the groundwork for the next few weeks' messages which will give you a world-view that will blow your mind. 

It's Reformation Month! for the next 5 weeks I am taking the opportunity to give my congregation a sermon series on the Cosmic War of the sons of God.  I decided to share this teaching with you as well.  In establishing this teaching, our first episode is simply titled "God".

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What really happened in the garden? Was it just a snake, or something far more supernatural? Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dig into Genesis 3 with Hebrew insights, ancient context, and biblical connections. From the serpent’s true identity to how the gospel shines through the fall, this episode explores the depth beneath the flannelgraph version. Don’t miss this conversation that grounds the fringe in Christ-centered hope.

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What does the first commandment really mean when it says, “You shall have no other gods before me”? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dig into the biblical language around Elohim, showing how Scripture speaks about spiritual beings while upholding the uniqueness of Yahweh. We tackle the common misunderstandings that arise when people assume the Bible denies the existence of other “gods,” explaining instead how the prophets and apostles used comparative and polemical language. If you’ve ever wondered how to reconcile these passages or why it matters for how we understand Christ and the gospel, this conversation is for you.

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What does the word God really mean? Has it always meant the same thing? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dive deep into the etymology of Elohim, Theos, Deus, and God, unpacking how language and culture have shaped our understanding of the divine. We tackle questions of monotheism, the supernatural worldview of Scripture, and why context matters more than capitalization. Whether you’re a theology nerd or simply curious about how words shape belief, this discussion will challenge and expand the way you read your Bible.

DOUG’S ARTICLE - Gods vs. God: Unmasking the Semantic Showdown in Biblical Monotheism

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What truly sets God apart from the gods? How does that connect to the age-old debate about free will and predestination? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dig into the supernatural side of salvation, exploring why the real opposite of free will might actually be the bondage of the will. From the nature of God’s incommunicable attributes to the “golden chain” of Romans 8, we unpack how predestination, calling, and regeneration are all divine acts of grace. Whether you’re new to the topic or have wrestled with it for years, this conversation bridges theology and the fringe with depth, clarity, and a few Bigfoot donut jokes along the way.

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What if the “other gods” in the Ten Commandments weren’t just ancient metaphors, but real spiritual beings still at work today? Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dig into the biblical distinction between having gods and making idols, showing how these entities operated in ancient Israel’s time and how their influence still pulls us toward modern temptations like materialism, sexual obsession, and self-worship. We uncover how idols once served as access points to these beings and why the prophets’ mockery never denied their reality. We challenge you to recognize this ongoing spiritual battle and to resist through the gospel, the means of grace, and unwavering loyalty to Christ.

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Is Ezekiel 1 really about UFOs and ancient astronauts? Or are we missing something bigger? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dive into the strange imagery of fire, wheels within wheels, and four-faced creatures to show how Ezekiel’s vision isn’t about aliens, but the glory of God and His divine council. We unpack how this scene fits into the Bible’s bigger story, why it would’ve made perfect sense to ancient readers, and how reclaiming the Bible’s supernatural worldview points us to Christ. If you've ever wondered what Ezekiel was really seeing, this one's for you.

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Is the divine council worldview just fringe theology? Or can it actually fit within confessional Reformed categories? That’s the tension we’re pressing into in this episode. Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn take on the growing pushback from some in the Reformed world who see divine council theology, popularized by Michael Heiser, as incompatible with Reformed theology and the confessions. But is that critique fair? Can you hold to historic Reformed orthodoxy and affirm that the supernatural worldview of the Bible includes a real, functioning heavenly host? Is it heretical? Or just unfamiliar? And why have so many Reformed voices, past and present, quietly affirmed far more than some are comfortable admitting? If you've felt the tension between confessional boundaries and the weird-but-biblical parts of Scripture, this one’s for you.

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Recorded live at Grace Reformed Church in Nashville, TN, this special episode features hosts Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn exploring the mysterious world of Genesis 6. Together, we examine the controversial identity of the "sons of God" and the Nephilim, walking through biblical texts and early church history to weigh the natural and supernatural interpretations. We connect ancient giants to the broader biblical storyline of redemption and spiritual warfare. We unpack how New Testament writers like Peter and Jude interpret these strange events and why they matter for Christians today. Along the way, we emphasize a supernatural worldview often missing in modern Reformed circles. This episode is a thought-provoking journey into the fringes of Scripture that invites believers to take their Bibles—and the unseen realm—seriously.

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Are aliens real? Are they physical, spiritual, or something in between? In this wide-ranging conversation, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn approach the topic not as clickbait—but as pastors. With compassion, Scripture, and curiosity, they explore how Christians can think biblically about supernatural encounters, abduction stories, UFO sightings, and the growing sense that something strange is going on in our world. What if angels, demons, and the unseen realm help explain what others dismiss or mock? And how do we shepherd people who’ve experienced things they can’t explain? Whether you're skeptical or seeking, this episode invites you into a conversation the church has often avoided—but can no longer ignore.

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Is it possible we’re missing a vital “sense” when we read the Bible? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn explore what they call the sixth sense of biblical interpretation—a supernatural awareness grounded in Scripture itself. More than grammar and history, rightly reading the Bible requires a Christ-centered, covenantal, and cosmic lens that takes seriously the divine authorship behind the text. Drawing from six core interpretive tools—including continuity, context, and law/gospel contrast—they show how Scripture comes alive when we recover its heavenly dimension. This episode is both practical and paradigm-shifting for anyone who wants to read the Bible the way Jesus and the apostles did.

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Why did every ancient culture worship multiple gods—and why does it seem like they vanished? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn explore a stunning reality: the gods never really left. From ancient paganism to modern materialism, we trace how spiritual beings—once openly worshiped—have simply gone underground, rebranding themselves in culture, media, and even religion. Drawing from Scripture, ancient history, and biblical theology, we show how the gods still influence the world today, just under new disguises. If you’ve ever wondered why the Bible forbids worshiping “other gods,” or how Paul ties sensuality to sorcery, this episode will challenge everything you thought you knew about the supernatural. The gods are still here—but only the gospel has the power to silence them.

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Is the world less enchanted than it used to be—or are we just blind to the heavens above us? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn explore Clinton Manley’s Desiring God article “Do You See the Heavenly Hosts?”—a positive, re-enchanting vision of the supernatural realm. We walk through the “map of heaven” Scripture reveals: a real kingdom filled with messengers, guardians, ministers, armies, attendants, and a divine council—all centered around King Jesus. Drawing from Colossians, Psalm 82, and Isaiah 6, we challenge the materialism modern believers unknowingly breathe and invite you to set your minds where Christ is—seated in glory. This isn’t fantasy—it’s biblical reality. Join us as we put the fringe back into heaven.

Clinton Manley’s Article - Do You See the Heavenly Host?

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Was Jesus actually in Genesis? Most Christians believe Christ shows up in prophecy or type, but what if He was physically present—over and over again? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn explore 20 stunning appearances of the pre-incarnate Christ throughout the book of Genesis. From walking in the garden, wrestling Jacob, and dining with Abraham, to commanding Noah and calling Hagar by name, we trace the embodied Son of God moving in real time through redemptive history. Using Christ’s own hermeneutic (Luke 24), we challenge the idea that Jesus is absent until the Gospels—and instead show that Genesis is saturated with the presence of the Son. If you think the Old Testament is silent on Jesus, this episode will blow that assumption wide open.

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Could the people of the Bible really talk with Jesus in the Old Testament? What did the prophets actually see—and who were they speaking to? Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dive deep into the divine council worldview to show how Old Testament prophets weren't just hearing mysterious voices—they were encountering the pre-incarnate Christ. We explore how figures like Isaiah and Jeremiah stood in the presence of the second person of the Trinity, and how the Word of the Lord who commissioned them is the same Jesus revealed in the New Testament. If you've ever wondered how prophecy really works, or how Jesus shows up in places we’ve missed, this episode will change the way you read your Bible. Join us as we put the fringe back into prophecy.

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Have you ever wondered why Jesus was baptized if He was without sin or why baptism is more than just a symbol? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dive into the often overlooked, supernatural dimensions of baptism through a distinctly Reformed lens. We explore how Jesus’ baptism connects to the Old Testament consecration of priests and how believers today are clothed in Christ’s righteousness, equipped as royal priests. We challenge the common view of baptism as merely an act of repentance and discuss the spiritual confidence that comes from understanding our identity in Christ. If you’ve ever questioned the deeper meaning of baptism or your role as a royal priest, this episode will give you fresh insight. Join us as we put the fringe back into baptism!

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Reformed Fringe [60]

Can you hold to Reformed theology while embracing a Divine Council worldview? Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn think so. In this episode, we dive into the history of doctrinal development, showing how refining theology doesn’t mean abandoning the core of our faith. We share our own journeys as Reformed Baptist pastors, discussing how rediscovering the supernatural elements of scripture – like Christ’s presence in the Old Testament – can actually deepen a confessional Reformed perspective. Join us as we challenge misconceptions, share insights, and explore why seeing the Bible in full "color" enriches our faith.

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Reformed Fringe [59]

Is Paula White a dangerous teacher? In today’s episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn, tackle the supernatural power of words and the dangers of "word magic" theology, focusing on Paula White. We explore how the true power of the gospel stands against the manipulative practices of the health-and-wealth movement. The Word of God brings real transformation, not spells or emotional hype. As we reclaim the full, supernatural nature of our Reformed faith, we call the church back to trusting the proclaimed Word of Christ.

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Reformed Fringe [58]

Satan and the evil realm were overjoyed to see the death of Christ. But, as 1 Corinthians states, "None of the rulers of this age understood this; for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory." The cross was the Trojan horse into Hell that led to Christ’s ultimate victory over sin, death, and the wicked supernatural entities that ruled over this world. In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn discuss the importance of the crucifixion and its consequences. As well as how Jesus was not just a substitutionary atonement for us, but also a ransom for sinners from destruction.

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Reformed Fringe [57]

In recent history, we’ve seen a rise in the yearning for supernatural teaching and worship that embraces it. Between the rise of the seeker-sensitive and charismatic movements, and observing trends of evangelical Christians converting to Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy. The true gospel is often obscured by these movements and institutions. In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn discuss how the tactics of Satan and the evil realm are used to point people to false gospels and lead them away from the sufficiency of Christ and His gospel.

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Reformed Fringe [56]

The question is not whether these things have power. It is whether or not we’re trusting in the power of Jesus Christ, as described in the Scriptures, or something else. In today’s episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn discuss how many, even in Christian circles, are taught to trust in things that seem “good” but are actually far more damaging to us than we could ever imagine.

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Reformed Fringe [55]

Do Stephen and Paul allude to the existence of other gods? How do the New Testament writers understand the pagan powers like Molech? Why are these pagan gods, like Chemosh of Moab, always mentioned with geographical locations? Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn discuss this and more as they discuss the nature of the supernatural realms and how the effects of the gospel are even stronger than we can ever fully understand.

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