Welcome to Redundancy Matters, a podcast dedicated to providing support, guidance and practical advice for compassionate HR professionals managing redundancies.

Join June Hogan, an ICF accredited coach, outplacement specialist and experienced HR professional, to explore why redundancy matters.  Listen to the show to get practical guidance on how to manage the redundancy process, hear from guests and gain insights on how to support people with dignity and compassion.

June is an experienced coach and has been running her own outplacement services consultancy since 2019 and is here to help HR professionals managing redundancies.   Through sharing her own story and experience of redundancy on both sides of the table, as well as inviting guests to share theirs, she’ll be diving into some of the procedural aspects and going deeper to explore the emotional impact.  June wants to help HR professionals and leaders understand why redundancy matters and ensure people are always at the heart of the process.

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In this episode June shares real-life redundancy stories, both her own and others’, to highlight lessons in empathy, communication, and humanity. From poor planning to moments of silence and isolation, she explores the emotional impact of redundancy and how HR professionals can support line managers to avoid some of these mistakes.

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How do you lead redundancies while still showing empathy and care? In this episode June shares four key principles: transparency, empathy, support, and dignity for managing redundancy with compassion. A must-listen for HR professionals and business leaders who want to put people at the heart of the process.

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In this first episode, career coach and outplacement specialist June Hogan shares her personal and professional experiences with redundancy. From being made redundant twice to supporting others through it, June explores why a compassionate, human approach matters. Perfect for HR professionals and leaders navigating change.

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Planning is key to a smooth redundancy process. In this episode, June shares practical guidance for HR professionals on getting it right from the start. From forming the project team and crafting the business rationale, to comms plans, cost forecasts, and voluntary redundancy options, she covers what to think about before making any announcements.

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In this episode June explores the vital role of empathy in redundancy. June shares personal insights and practical advice on how HR teams and line managers can support people with care. She explores the difference between empathy and sympathy, and why listening without fixing is key to a compassionate approach.

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The consultation period can feel like limbo, but it’s also a chance to pause, reflect, and prepare. In this episode I share how HR professionals can support colleagues at risk. From gathering achievements to seeking feedback and leaving well, we’ll explore practical ways to help people take control of what comes next. Because how someone leaves matters and your support can shape how they begin their next chapter.

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Telling someone their job is at risk is a defining moment and one that will be remembered long after the process ends. In this episode June Hogan lays out what line managers need to know before stepping into a consultation meeting. The words you choose, the way you show up, the space you create, it all matters. Prepare well, lead with care and never forget the human in the room.

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In this episode I speak to Pete Colby, Chief Mediator at Pragmatism UK, about leading large-scale redundancy programmes with empathy, integrity, and pragmatism. Drawing on decades in HR at British Steel and Rolls-Royce, as well as his own experience of redundancy, Pete shares real stories of managing thousands of redundancies. We talk about what went well, what went wrong, and what he learned about the human impact behind every decision. Together, we explore how genuine consultation, trust-based relationships with trade unions, and courageous leadership can transform even the toughest restructuring programmes.

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In this episode I'm joined by Eleanor Tweddell, author of Another Door Opens, to explore how HR professionals can better support people through redundancy. Together, they unpack why change feels messy, why “just keeping busy” isn’t the answer, and how to pause, play, and rebuild with intention. If you’re helping others through uncertainty while trying to hold it together yourself, this episode offers real insight and practical tools for you, your leaders and those impacted by change.

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In this episode, June Hogan tackles a key challenge: how to get managers to step up during redundancies. Learn why manager buy-in matters and what HR teams can do to shift the mindset from box-ticking to people-focused leadership. June shares practical strategies to involve leaders early, build emotional awareness, and shape a culture of care so no one feels like just a number when it matters most.

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In this episode June Hogan shares how to build a compelling business case for outplacement support even when budgets are tight. Discover how to respond to leadership pushback, highlight commercial and cultural benefits, and position outplacement as a strategic investment.

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Niki Corbishley, an experienced HR leader and coach, joins me this week to explore how to lead redundancy processes with empathy, trust, and authenticity. We discuss why putting people, and managers, at the heart of the process is critical, how to support leaders delivering difficult news, and the importance of building psychological safety during collective consultations. Niki shares practical tips on preparing leadership teams, handling emotions, and creating an environment where everyone feels heard and respected, even in the most difficult circumstances.

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In this episode of Redundancy Matters, I’m joined by Victoria Dale, founder of Inclusion 365, a diversity and inclusion consultancy. Together, we explore why redundancy decisions need more than policies and procedures - they need humanity, transparency, and thoughtful leadership. Victoria shares both her professional expertise and personal experience, highlighting how organisations can avoid common pitfalls, embed fairness, and support people through one of the most challenging transitions of their careers.

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In this episode of Redundancy Matters, I’m joined by retirement planning partner Anne Cannings from Retirement Pathways to discuss how HR professionals can support people facing redundancy later in their careers. We explore why “just retiring” is rarely simple, and how the HR team can help individuals leave well while preparing for purpose, structure, and connection beyond work. From practical guidance to compassionate strategies, this conversation offers insights to help you guide employees with care through one of life’s biggest transitions.

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How redundancies are handled defines your organisation’s culture, reputation, and future. In this powerful episode of Redundancy Matters, I speak with an experienced CEO, sharing candid insights from over 30 years in senior leadership. Discover why getting redundancies right is critical, how values must shine through in the toughest moments, and why empathy, transparency, and empowerment make all the difference. Learn what CEOs really need from HR leaders and how your role can transform a painful process into one that leaves dignity, trust, and even the door open for returning talent. If you’re an HR professional navigating restructures, this is your chance to go behind the boardroom doors and hear what truly matters - from the top.

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In this episode of Redundancy Matters, I’m joined by Dan Smith, Legal Director at People Law, to explore how HR can manage change with compassion and confidence. Dan shares why redundancies go wrong, the crucial role of line managers, and his four pillars: communication, courage, candour, and curiosity to help you navigate complex processes while supporting both those leaving and those staying.

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If you’re an HR professional navigating the complexities of redundancies, this episode is packed with practical insights you can use right away. I’m joined by Lorna Moles, a fractional HR leader with 20 years’ experience guiding organisations through change - from large-scale restructures to sensitive single-role deletions. We explore how to plan every detail, communicate with empathy, support line managers, keep survivors engaged, and protect your own wellbeing.

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In this episode, experienced line manager Stuart Betteridge shares his honest and practical perspective on leading teams through redundancy. From being put at risk himself to supporting others, Stuart offers valuable insights into what HR teams can do to best support their managers. We discuss the importance of visibility, empathy, and strong HR-manager partnerships, as well as the challenges of selection, supporting survivors and balancing the need to follow a process.

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In this episode of Redundancy Matters, career coach and outplacement specialist June Hogan explores how redundancies affect the “survivors” left behind. Discover the emotional impact on remaining employees, practical ways to re-engage teams, and the essential role HR plays in rebuilding trust and morale. If you’re leading your organisation through change, this

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What happens when menopause and redundancy collide? In this episode, I talk with executive coach and menopause consultant Angela Wilkins-Green about the hidden challenges women face during change at work. Angela shares her own story and we explore how managers and the HR team can better support women through perimenopause, redundancy and beyond with understanding, empathy and small but powerful actions.

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In this episode I'm sharing a clear, practical guide to concluding redundancy consultations. I'll walk you through what you need to do before, during, and after the final meeting. I cover the necessary preparation, delivering the outcome, legal and practical essentials, and supporting people with empathy.

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Redundancy planning needs accuracy, consistency, and confidence and for HR teams the quality of your data is crucial. In this episode of Redundancy Matters I chat with HR systems consultant Gill Wetherill about the critical role your HRIS and well-maintained data play in restructures. From data cleansing and selection-pool accuracy to performance records, notice periods, and modelling future scenarios, Gill shares practical insights for HR teams working with both sophisticated systems and simple spreadsheets.

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In this episode, June talks through 5 of the most common mistakes when managing redundancies and how you can avoid them with practical ideas to ensure a legally compliant and person centred process.

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In this episode of Redundancy Matters, June is joined by financial wellbeing expert Abby Birch to explore the often overlooked financial impact of redundancy. Together they discuss what financial wellbeing really means, how money and mental health are closely linked, and what HR professionals can realistically do to support people. The conversation covers practical signposting, helpful external resources, and how organisations can show care and credibility by acknowledging financial concerns as part of the redundancy process.

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In this episode of Redundancy Matters, June explores how HR and people professionals can support employees through redundancy when formal outplacement support isn’t available. Drawing on her experience as a career coach and former HR professional, June shares practical, compassionate in-house approaches that help people leave well while maintaining clear boundaries and realistic expectations.

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I’m joined by Laura Duggal, a parental return-to-work coach, to explore what organisational change feels like from the perspective of new mothers and why this moment is critical for talent retention.

Because becoming a mother is already one of the biggest transitions in someone’s life. Then add a restructure into the mix everything can feel unsettling.

We talk about the fear of being replaced, the anxiety of returning to something unfamiliar, and the overwhelm when work has moved on while you were away.

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Redundancy during pregnancy or maternity leave is a complex and sensitive area of employment law. In this episode of Redundancy Matters I’m joined by Clare Chappell, an independent employment lawyer with over 25 years’ experience supporting both employers and employees through difficult workplace situations. Clare specialises in advising women who are pregnant or on maternity leave and facing redundancy, as well as employers managing those processes, and she brings legal insight alongside a clear understanding of the human impact in this area.

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Redundancy isn’t just a business process. It’s a loss. And with loss comes grief. In this episode I explore what’s really happening beneath the surface when someone is told their role is at risk and why understanding grief can completely change how you lead through redundancy.

From shock and anger to silence and overwhelm, these are natural human responses, not reactions to be managed or rushed. I talk about practical strategies to help you support line managers and ensure the emphasis stays on the person at the heart of the process.

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In this episode I'm talking to HR director and ADHD coach Julia Crawford about how ADHD can affect employees during restructures, redundancy consultations and workplace change.

Julia shares insights from both her professional HR career and her own ADHD diagnosis, and together we explore:

Why redundancy can feel especially overwhelming for employees with ADHD

How employers can create fairer and more inclusive processes

Common mistakes managers make during redundancy consultation

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This is a valuable conversation for HR professionals, managers and business owners who want to take an inclusive approach to managing redundancies.

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If you're planning redundancies and not sure how to approach outplacement support, in this episode I break down what outplacement really involves, how to budget for it, when to introduce it, and how to make sure it genuinely supports your people and not just ticks a box.

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I’m joined by experienced HR professional and trade union founder Aime Ayrehart, who shares her perspective from her HR experience and as a trade union representative on what really happens in redundancy consultations beyond the process, scoring and scripts.

We explore what tends to go wrong, how a focus on process can sometimes make things harder, and why honesty about the commercial reality matters more than trying to say the “right” thing.

There’s also a practical look at what helps: giving people space to process, communicating in a way they can actually hear, and approaching conversations in a way that builds trust.

If you’re leading or supporting redundancies, this episode offers a practical, real-world view of how to handle them in a way that works better for everyone involved.

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In this episode I share practical ways HR professionals and managers can better support employees at risk of redundancy throughout the process and not just procedurally, but personally too.

Drawing on my experience in HR, coaching and outplacement support, I explore the small actions that often make the biggest difference. From communication and empathy to financial signposting, job search support and helping people regain confidence, this episode has lots of thoughtful and practical ideas for organisations that want to handle redundancy with compassion and dignity.

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Financial well being episode: Apple Season 3 - Episode 4 Redundancy and Financial Wellbeing: Supporting People Through the Shock

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Preparing line managers episode: Apple Season 1 - Episode 8 Preparing line managers for redundancy consultation meetings

Spotify: Season 1 - Episode 8 Preparing line managers for redundancy consultation meetings

Why empathy matters: Apple Season 1 - Episode 5 Why empathy matters in redundancy

Spotify: Season 1 - Episode 5 Why empathy matters in redundancy

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