Really Interesting Women 

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Ep. 146

Yvonne Sampson

Yvonne Sampson has had a career characterized by breaking barriers and setting new standards.  

 She grew up as did many Australians, with a deep love of sport. She studied journalism and her love of sport and her extensive knowledge of it, kept her focussed on the ultimate goal. And her persistence and resilience and patience and mostly ability, created the opportunities that led to her becoming the first female broadcaster to anchor a major sporting event in this country. 

 And her journey has continued... to the point where she is now generally considered one of the best sports broadcasters in the country.

 It was a great discussion. From how her parents discussed her own adoption from a very young age – and how she was so appreciative of that, to finding out about her birth father’s heritage and how he was removed from his family as a baby and the ongoing affect that has on her and the family. Her battles to be accepted as a female sports journalist to becoming a nationally recognised figure that anchored the Rugby League showpiece, the State of Origin. 

 A humble, appreciative, intelligent, knowledgeable person who turned to sports broadcasting because she said she didn’t have a sporting bone in her body. But, I did have to correct her – she forgot to mention that she has represented Australia in dressage!

 Even if you’re not a big sports fan, this is a really informing conversation. 

Head to the link in my bio to find Yvonne’s podcast episode. 

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Episode 145    Vicki Jellie AM

Vicki Jellie is best known for winning the 2017 Australia Day Local Hero award. Her community has known about her for decades...but we’ve only just caught up.

For those who may be unaware, the Australia Day Local Hero category was introduced to the Australian of the Year Awards in 2003 to acknowledge everyday Australians who make significant contributions to their local communities. And Vicki’s actions over a number of years did just that. Her actions were sparked by personal tragedy and resulted in bringing vital cancer services to regional Victoria, transforming healthcare for thousands. 

Vicki is an incredibly selfless, hardworking, empathetic, community minded person who, the day after her husband tragically passed away, was going through his possessions and discovered his desire to start raising funds to somehow help others by preventing the need to travel 3 hours each way from regional Victoria to get the treatment needed, as he had to do. She realised she now knew what she had to do going forward. 

Nearly everyone said it was impossible to get the support and funding needed for a world class medical and cancer treatment centre in regional Warrnambool. ‘Nearly everyone’ didn’t know Vicki Jellie. 

Head to the link in my bio to hear this fascinating and inspiring conversation.

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Episode 136   Professor Adele Green AC

Adele Green is officially (and often) referred to as "an international leader in the epidemiology of melanoma and skin cancer. Her ground-breaking randomised controlled trial of long-term sunscreen application in an Australian community provides the scientific basis for clinical and public health advice about sunscreen use for skin cancer prevention."

And all that is true. But I always think it's important to put those statements into context to get a true picture of the significance of the statement....

When Adele Green studied medicine, it was with a view to having a significant humanitarian impact. When she started her research, we didn't even know how common skin cancer was. It just wasn't recorded anywhere. Adele saw the problem and sought to do something about it. 

There was a time, not that long ago, when no one knew the burden of skin cancer or how to prevent it - until Adele turned her mind to it. Her work has contributed hugely to the treatment of melanomas. And that treatment has dramatically improved over the last 10 years such that the survival rates for even advanced melanomas has been turned around significantly.

She is also an innovator when it comes to detection and treatment of indigenous cancers. Another significant contribution includes insight into risk factors for ovarian cancer.

Professor Adele Green has received international awards and is a recognised advocate for cancer control, including through longstanding membership on national and international scientific and advisory councils. She has trained and mentored a generation of epidemiologists and clinician-scientists. 

Have a listen to our conversation by heading to the link in my bio.

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Ep. 46   Alison Battisson

Alison Battisson is the founder and Director Principal of the organisation, Human Rights For All. Their focus is to ensure basic human rights and humanitarian treatment for refugees and the stateless.  
Most of us have very strong opinions on this topic but realistically -  how many of us actually know what happens from a legal and humanitarian perspective. For example, did you know that in Australia there is no right to legal representation so it's up to organisations like HR4A to work pro bono (free of charge!) to give assistance or the refugees sit there in mandatory detention at the whim of the government. For years and years.
Australia is the ONLY country in the western world which has mandatory detention for people without visas. I'd say normally that we're keeping pretty unusual company in that regard.....but we have no company on this one. No one else treats refugees and asylum seekers like this.
Listening to Alison is an education. I wish it wasn't. If we all new about this I reckon a lot of people would be very upset. Consider this....the family from Sri Lanka who became known as 'The Biloela Family'  were being sent home and were literally in a plane back to Sri Lanka and the public found out what was going on and objected. Vociferously.  The plane was forced to turn around mid flight and return to Australia!
Australia has attracted international condemnation by the UN of its treatment of refugees and asylum seekers. Alison can explain why. It's not conjecture or hear say. It's not even the words of 'informed' social or media commentators. It's from someone who has their 'boots on the ground'. Every day. 


If you want to assist and donate to this cause, go to www.hr4a.com.au and follow the link.

Trigger warning: this episode contains references to self harm and assault

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Ep. 45 Heather Ellis

Heather is a motorbike adventurer who survived contracting AIDS in the early 90's. When you didn't.

Her remarkable solo adventures from South to North Africa Africa and then along the silk roads from Western Europe, Russia  and Asia have been captured in her two best selling books (below).

Prior to her silk roads trip she was given the horrendous diagnosis. At that time it was a death sentence. But she chose to take the trek anyway and it became a spiritual journey for her.

It's a tale of remarkable resilience and determination. Can you imagine travelling solo for months with that diagnosis hanging over your head?

Heather's info:
www.heather-ellis.com

Books:
Ubuntu: One Woman’s Motorcycle Odyssey Across Africa
Timeless On The Silk Road 

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Ep. 44 Jane Caro AM
 Jane Caro is a Walkley Award winning columnist, author, broadcaster, documentary maker, feminist and social commentator. She spent 35 years in the advertising industry, published twelve books, including three novels and has appeared frequently on ABC’s Q&A, Sunrise, The Project, The Drum. She was also a regular panellist on the ABC’s top-rating show on advertising “The Gruen Transfer.”  She is knowledgable, engaging, funny and authentic. For those reasons she is highly sought after as a speaker, workshop facilitator and an MC by a wide range of both private and public sector organisations. 
She always has a lot to say on a broad range of topics. And it's really worth listening to. 

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Ep. 43 Dr Alice Gorman
Alice Gorman is one of the world's leading authorities on space archaeology.   She blogs as 'Dr Space Junk' and her research on space exploration has been featured in National Geographic, New Scientist, and Archaeology magazine. She is a faculty member of the International Space University's Southern Hemisphere Space Program in Adelaide.

She started life as an archaeologist and then, after a gruelling day of field work and while having a beer and  looking up at the night sky, she had her lightbulb moment. That beer changed her life. Well....there were a few other factors as well but you know what I mean. 

We discussed all manner of things.....space junk, Elon Musk, proprietary rights to space, extra terrestrial life, fictional WW1 fighter pilot Biggles. Everything. 

Everyone I reckon has a bit of a fascination with space. If you're one of those people, you'll enjoy this. Even if you're not, have a listen. Like me, you'll probably learn quite a bit.

Her book is 

Dr Space Junk vs The Universe: Archaeology and The Future

https://www.booktopia.com.au/dr-space-junk-vs-the-universe-alice-gorman/book/9781742236247.html

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Ep. 42  Antoinette Braybrook
Antoinette Braybrook is an Aboriginal woman who was born in Victoria on Wurundjeri country. She left school at 15 and, after a period of time finding where she needed to be, she went to university as a mature age student and completed a law degree and was subsequently admitted as a legal practitioner. It was then that she decided to dedicate her life’s work to giving a voice to victims of family and domestic violence, in particular, indigenous women. And by becoming the CEO of Djirra, an organisation dedicated to that cause, she has made, and continues to make, a real difference in the face of, at times, real indifference. She was awarded the 2015 Law Institute of Victoria: Access to Justice/Pro Bono Award, the 2017 Inspirational Women of Yarra Award, and a 2015 Australian Centre for Leadership for Women award for Sustaining Women’s Empowerment. In 2020, she was inducted into the Victorian Honour Roll of Women.

Read about Antoinette's organisation and the great work it does
www.djirra.org.au


Trigger warning: episode contains references to domestic violence

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Ep. 41   Prue Gilbert

Prue Gilbert is a lawyer, human rights advocate and mother....and she combines her vast experiences in all three areas to improve the lives of thousands.

Marie Claire called her the “the anti-discrimination guru”. Vogue named her a “Game Changer” and her business, Grace Papers, won the Australian Human Rights Business Award for addressing pregnancy related discrimination.

At its heart, her company coaches those navigating the parental leave journey from pregnancy, parental leave and returning to work. Both employees AND employers. She outlines the enormous benefits to both when they get the flexible work practices right. 

I wish I'd had this available when we were going through this journey - I've selfishly outlined a bit of my own story in this episode. 

Grace Paper and Prue Gilbert are proving to be a game changer. For everyone. And the covid work from home requirements has just emphasised what Prue has been saying for years. Now the benefits are obvious to everyone. But they weren't when Prue started her journey. 
Another pioneer really worth a listen. 

www.gracepapers.com.au

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Ep. 40 Rachel Doyle SC

Rachel is one of the country's most senior female barristers. She has taken the extraordinary step of writing a book (Power and Consent) which directly addresses the allegations of sexual harassment by 6 former Judges Associates against a former High Court Judge, Dyson Heydon.

And the current Chief Justice of the High Court, Justice Susan Kiefel, not only believes these women, she has personally apologised to each of them for their appalling treatment. It's all unprecedented in the legal world. That's what makes this turn of events so fascinating and timely.

Rachel explores these events through the prism of two vital topics…power and consent, as the title of the book would imply. And what she finds makes for a sobering discussion.

We explore how we could possibly get to this situation and,  some answers she proposes. They’re simple….and brilliant. And having been a barrister for over 25 years, her views and thoughts are worth listening to. 

Rachel's book, Power and Consent can be found at Booktopia:
https://www.booktopia.com.au/power-consent-rachel-doyle/book/9781922464125.html?dsa=s1-east&gclid=CjwKCAjwqvyFBhB7EiwAER786ReMxFjszmslAhonB05q0W_6mzbEFdR4pOZa-Z-1AOFLQVPkuoz4vhoCJeMQAvD_BwE

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Ep. 39  Jahna Cedar OAM

Jahna Cedar is a Nyiyaparli/Yindjibarndi woman from the Pilbara region of Western Australia, with family connection to the Gija people of the Kimberleys, and is recognised as a strong Indigenous community leader. 

She has worked for over 20 years advocating for equal rights and reconciliation of Indigenous people and has represented Indigenous Australia at the United Nations in New York, on three occasions. In 2012, Jahna was the youngest person to be elected into the West Australian International Women’s Day Hall of Fame and in 2017 proudly won Business news 40 under 40, First amongst equals. Jahna was also awarded Telstra Business Women Awards WA – For Purpose and Social Enterprise Winner in 2017.

She has such a strong sense of purpose and real suggestions and advice on how we can make our relationship with indigenous people so much better which is the to the benefit of ALL Australians.   

This was a fascinating and educational conversation. 

Jahna refers to IPS Management Consultants. Their website is:
www.ipsau.com.au

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Ep. 38  Rabia Siddique
Rabia is a hostage survivor. It’s part of a story that has its beginnings as a human rights and criminal lawyer, British Army officer and subsequently a best selling author and professional speaker. It’s a very different story from those I’ve brought you to date, but it does share some common themes. Like all my guests, she has been confronted with numerous obstacles, hurdles, challenges and discrimination but, unlike my other guests, some situations she had to literally stare down and, if not handled well, would have cost her her life.  The injustice she suffered was authorised by those at the very top. It's literally unbelievable. 
The whole story of resilience, determination and how treating others with respect and dignity undoubtedly saved her life and those of her fellow hostages - should be made into a movie. As fate would have it, the story IS being made into a movie. My suggestions were (once again rightly) laughed at. I think they may have merit though.

This conversation contains references to sexual assault and sexual abuse. If you or someone you love needs help, please call 1 800 RESPECT or Bravehearts information and support line 1800 272 831

About the guest
Website www.rabiasiddique.com
Rabia's book: Equal Justice, My Journey as a Woman, a Soldier and a Muslim
Booktopia link to the book:
https://www.booktopia.com.au/equal-justice-rabia-siddique/book/9781742613239.html


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Ep. 37 The Hon. Annabelle Bennett AC, SC, FAA

Annabelle is a retired Judge of the Federal Court of Australia. She is currently Chancellor of Bond University; the Chair of the Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation (ANSTO), an Arbitrator of the Court of Arbitration for Sport; President (part time) of the Anti-Discrimination Board of NSW; Member of the Board of Directors of the Garvan Institute of Medical Research; Member and past President of Chief Executive Women; Chair of the Advisory Group of Judges to the World Intellectual Property Organisation; and Member of the Advisory Board of the Faculty of Law at The Chinese University of Hong Kong. She has also served as a Commissioner with the NSW Law Reform Commission and as a Royal Commissioner into National Natural Disaster Arrangements.  Dr Bennett is a Fellow of both the Australian Academy of Science and Australian Academy of Law.

Her father was a lawyer, and at an early age she had hopes of following him into the legal profession. Her father, however, thought that law was a bad career choice for women and discouraged her from pursuing this ambition. Instead, she studied science at the University of Sydney and completed a Ph.D. in Biochemistry. But she still wanted to study law. So she did. And became a barrister. Then a Senior Counsel. Then a Judge of the Federal Court of Australia.

She just wants to keep learning. And don't think Imposter Syndrome doesn't affect someone like Annabelle. It absolutely does but it's how she deals with it that is important. There's a lot of very valuable lessons here.

It's a really interesting and fun chat with a really interesting and fun woman. 

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Episode 134

Justine Barwick

"If you can't solve the big problems, solve the little ones in front of you and keep chipping away"

Justine Barwick has been working tirelessly and selflessly in the Community Services sector for 25 years. The sort of person that puts the needs of everyone else before her own. But circumstances eventually changed that dramatically.

It was what happened in September 2018 that propelled Justine into the national conscience. You see, she was on annual holiday in the beautiful Whitsunday Islands and this country’s collective worst nightmare happened. She was attacked and mauled by a shark. 

She was very, very lucky to survive. In those situations, life changes dramatically in an instant and those changes, should you survive...are ongoing both physically and mentally. 

Here’s the story of an extraordinary woman whose resilience and determination meant she not only survived, she thrived. It's an incredible and inspiring story of survival. And the lessons she's learned on the way are relevant for all of us. 

Head to the link in my bio to hear Justine's story. 

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Ep. 36   Meggie Palmer
Meggie Palmer founded PepTalkHer whose mission is the close the gender pay gap. 

The PepTalkHer app helps track career successes and uses artificial intelligence to coach confidence and negotiation skills.....and gives you a pep talk when you need it most. I'm using it. The key to it's success is its simplicity I reckon. 

Meggie travels globally speaking and helping companies with retaining female leaders and diversity. As a former Walkley award winning journalist, Meggie brings the same dedication, research, determination and empathy to this role. She has helped people all over the world gain confidence and deal with imposter syndrome. To help close the pay gap, she shows us how to negotiate a pay rise and how to boost confidence to help that process through their online free 5 day challenge (www.peptalkher.com/challenge). 

Great practical solutions to global problems. And she's great fun. I got a lot from this. Have a listen. 

www.meggiepalmer.com
www.peptalkher.com
gallup strength finders
www.peptalkher.com/challenge

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Ep. 35  Katy Barfield

Katy Barfield has been described as a food waste warrior, an award winning female founder, circular economy ambassador, food tech expert, food system disruptor, not for profit leader, board member, government advisor and....occasional dolphin rescuer. 

As Founder and CEO of Yume Australia, Katy realised that food rescue was not going to be enough - she did that with Second Bite for many years and, whilst she still thinks organisations like Second Bite and OzHarvest are very important, Yume was brought about to scale up food distribution and get some money back in the hands of the farmers and producers, to make a real impact on the 4.1 million tonnes of commercial food waste per year. That's enough, if the food were stacked on pallets and the pallets were stacked on each other, to reach the space station......14 times over. Annually.

At its simplest, it's Australia's first online marketplace for surplus food. There are only three other organisations around the world utilising similar technology to do the same thing. They estimate that in the next three years, Yume will have prevented 10,000,000 kgs of food from going to waste. 

And food waste is the third biggest contributor to global warming. So it's worth this effort. 

www.yumefood.com.au

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Ep. 34   Maggie Beer AM

Maggie Beer is a National Treasure. 

Having left school at 14 to help provide for the family, it wasn't until she was in her mid 30's that her true calling came to her.  A revelation in the wilds of Scotland led to a new food era in Australia. From the opening of a farm shop called Pheasant Farm in 1979 in the Barossa Valley in South Australia, to transforming that farm shop to a restaurant that, in 1991, was named Gourmet Traveller's restaurant of the year. And she still refers to herself as just a cook.

Her cook books are revered and her TV shows, The Cook and the Chef, and The Great Australian Bake Off are enormously popular as are her many appearances as a judge and special guest on MasterChef. 

But plain sailing it was not. Hard work, a young family, burn out, reality checks, reassessment, refocus on the things that matter most. Combined with the courage to try something new....completely new in this country - has led to an extraordinary career that is faaaaar from over.

Through it all Maggie Beer was always authentic, always genuine and fun and, as a result, always loved and admired. 

www.maggiebeer.com.au
This website leads to her recipes and some of the best cookbooks in the world.
www.maggiebeerfoundation.org.au

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Ep. 33  Hon. Linda Burney MP

Linda was the first aboriginal person, male or female, to be elected to the New South Wales State Parliament. She was the first aboriginal woman to be elected to the Federal House of Representatives. She is currently the Shadow Minister for Families and Social Services and the Shadow Minister for Indigenous Australians.
Her commitment to indigenous issues and rights in education, reconciliation and politics spans more than 30 years.
One of her highlights was being integral part in organising the Walk for Reconciliation across the Sydney Harbour Bridge in 2000. Not knowing if anyone would turn up, imagine how she felt when 350,000 people joined her to show their support. 
We discuss issues that should be important to all Australians.

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Ep. 32 Professor Julie Leask
Julie Leask is a social scientist specialising in risk communication and vaccination uptake. She  has qualifications in nursing and midwifery, a Master of Public Health and a PhD in public health. She is an advisor to the World Health Organization on vaccination acceptance and demand issues. Her research has covered communication issues surrounding pandemics, outbreaks, and vaccine safety incidents. She has also looked at public/healthcare worker perceptions and behaviours during these events and media coverage of them.
She has some answers for us. 

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Ep. 31  - Assoc. Prof. Sally Moyle
Sally Moyle is a leading expert on gender equality. Which, right now, is probably one of the most important people we need to listen to. 

By providing historical context to these problems she explains why the politicians in this country have such an appalling record when it comes to the treatment of women in parliament. But she's optimistic that we may have reached an inflection point. 

We discussed the importance of listening to all perspectives, the day to day lived reality for most women, power structures and quotas.

Her messages on the benefits of equality are broad ranging and common sense really. Studies over many years have shown that diversity leads to better performance. Not only an equality argument but an economic one.

Such an important discussion for women and men to hear. 

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Ep. 30 - Diane Grady AO

Diane Grady has an exceptional background in the corporate world and she has used that privilege to advance the causes of women more than practically anyone. Her lessons for how to get ahead and help others should be etched in marble. 

Armed with an MBA from Harvard in the mid 70's she became a partner with the highly prestigious worldwide management consulting firm McKinsey and Co. She was the first woman outside the USA to be elected to McKinsey's Global Partnership and the first female partner in the firm to have children. In 1994 she became a full time independent director and has been on the boards of numerous public companies and non profits, that are household names.

Diane's career goals have ALWAYS been twofold: (1) do whatever she can to help create leadership opportunities for women, and (2) ensure any organisation she was involved in, she would do everything possible to help that organisation do a better job allowing all of its people at all levels, to flourish. 

And that's what she's done. 

Her advice to young women in particular of how to make an impact in the workplace is worth the price of entry alone. 

As one of the country's most successful change managers she has sage advice for the PM Scott Morrison. She's told us exactly how to fix the Liberal Party's obvious issue with its disrespect for women.

Quite an amazing person.  Listen to this. Like me, you'll be a better person for it.

www.cew.org.au
www.headsoverheels.com.au
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Episode 29   Sadhana Smiles

As an immigrant to Australia with no qualifications and no plan as well as being the granddaughter of a slave in Fiji, Sadhana Smiles inauspicious beginnings were no indication of what was to come.

She would rise to become a global CEO, multi leadership award winner, author, business and social entrepreneur and leading speaker on leadership, diversity and inclusion. She is one of only a handful of culturally and linguistically diverse leaders in this country and, as such, is a role model to women in the many diverse communities in Australia. 

She has had many obstacles to overcome. Sadhana talks of the triple glass ceiling that she has had to deal with, being a woman, being a woman of colour and being a woman with Indian heritage and the cultural expectations that come with that.

This has created a real determination and resilience to enable her to advance not just her own career but the careers of other women and, in particular, other women of colour. She is a constant voice for the benefits of diversity and she shares her recipe for success....and it's well worth listening to. 

She started listing the gaps in her working life and set about closing them. Courage is an important factor - which could be as simple as expressing an opinion or as big as stepping out of your comfort zone at work to make a different choice. The importance of sponsors, mentors, putting yourself forward for opportunities. There's a lot of solutions here. Not just for women of colour but for everyone wanting to get ahead.

As a social entrepreneur she has been active for years in the areas of domestic violence and violence against women generally and was instrumental in organising an annual 'Walk a Mile in Their Shoes' march which raised funds for those causes.

As a speaker on the corporate circuit, Sadhana has inspired thousands to chase their dreams....despite her often being the only woman of colour not only on any discussion panel, but often in the room! But she's determined to change that. And I wouldn't be betting against her in that regard. Her first two books are critically acclaimed and inspire people to blaze their own trail in business and in life.

Sadhana Smiles is someone that really is making the path a little wider and clearer for those that follow. And she's a lot of fun. Have a listen. 


www.sadhanasmiles.com
Books - People Power Did You have Them @ Hello
                  I Want What She's Having 
Podcast - Business in Colour 

This episode makes reference to slavery, racial themes, diversity and domestic violence.

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Ep. 28   Mikhara Ramsing

Mikhara is a former finalist for Young Australian of the Year. She started two amazing companies after becoming s social entrepreneur. 

Mikhara Ramsing describes herself as a gay South African Indian Australian woman. At the age of 16 her family moved to Australia which is difficult enough at that age but at the same time she was only just beginning to understand her own sexuality. Very challenging considering she and her Indian heritage parents did not know of any other gay women of colour. Mikhara was determined to help her parents understand because that love and acceptance was so important to her. Eventually she constructed a 'letter of understanding' to her parents and it started a long and very important discussion for which she is now so grateful. It was a long road to travel but her strength, determination, resilience and love got her to that goal.

The influence of Mikhara's grandfather led her to change a secure career as an economist to start a career as a social entrepreneur. This saw her criss cross the country in a mobile 'tiny house' undertaking skills workshops supporting mental health and well being for rural and regional high school students......as well as building Australia's first national website providing resources, support and a safe place for cultural and linguistically diverse LGBTIQ people to share their stories and access those resources and support. Something that wasn't available to her. A large part of the funding for this comes from the sale of her chai tea (Miks Chai).

Quite remarkable really. 

TW this episode contains references to mental health and suicide prevention.

www.mikhararamsing.com
@mikschai
@ethnic_plus

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Ep. 27    Carla Zampatti AC OMRI

Carla is a fashion icon who is also a pioneer in business. 

For over 55 years she has been a leader in her field. A string of awards and accolades from Australia and Italy have confirmed her as one of this country's most influential and powerful women.

Even when she arrived from Italy as a child in Bullfinch, WA (I didn't know either - about 300 km north east of Perth), she knew the business she wanted to run.... in an era when probably no other women were doing it. 

So can you imagine the obstacles and hurdles she faced? And yet she has endured...and prospered. For over 55 years. 

She's such a strong advocate for women in business and has constantly sought to inspire women to become entrepreneurs and leaders. She's learned a lot about life and business and she shares some of her experiences and advice here.

It's an inspirational story....that continues.


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Episode 133

Melinda Schneider

*This podcast contains content about depression*

Melinda started in the entertainment industry aged 3 alongside her mother, the legendary yodeller Mary Schneider. She recorded music at 8, had her acting debut in A Country Practice at 13, went on to release 14 albums and win six Golden Guitars from the Country Music Awards of Australia.

Her songs have been recorded by Australian music royalty such as John Farnham, Olivia Newton-John and Paul Kelly.

Melinda is an incredible live performer and has enjoyed huge touring success. After recording an album of Doris Day songs in tribute to her hero, Mary encouraged Melinda to write a full theatre show about Doris. She did. The tour which accompanied her #1 hit album ‘Melinda Does Doris’ toured the country extensively and even sold out the Sydney Opera House Concert Hall twice!

Having had a successful career for 40 years, she continues her innovative progression with the launch of an independent record label and, I understand, a new album early next year. Rock guru Glenn A Baker described her as one of this country’s truly important artists. 

But, as is often the case, the achievements and accolades don’t tell the whole story. 

In 2018, as a result of 30 years of relentless work combined with a perfectionist streak, Melinda was overcome with depression. She has been very public about it and I personally found it a really insightful discussion.  Her strength, resilience and determination in dealing with this issue stands, I imagine, with equal pride alongside all her other achievements. 

Head to the link in my bio to listen to Melinda's podcast episode. 

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Ep. 26   Gloria Allred

"One of the best attorneys in America"  - President Barack Obama.

A  fearless advocate for civil rights and fighting for injustice for 45 years. Gloria Allred is the high profile, outspoken, at times outrageous advocate for women and those whose civil rights have been transgressed. She's been forcefully advocating gay rights since the 1970's. Aids discrimination, marriage equality, transgender rights - she's been successfully defending victims for nearly 50 years. Still doing it. 

When a high profile story breaks featuring allegations of sexual misconduct against celebrated men, her name is often not far behind. Through her clients she's taking on Roman Polanski, Bill Cosby, Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, R Kelly and Donald Trump, to name a few. She's probably one of the very few people they fear.

She's one of the most prominent civil rights lawyers in America today. Her goal is to bring women into the mainstream of American life in each and every aspect of life in equal partnership with men. 

Gloria Allred has helped create cultural shifts.

A recently inducted member of the American National Women's Hall of Fame and the subject of a hugely successful Netflix documentary, 'Seeing Allred'. 

We have a lot to thank her for.

More from Gloria Allred:

website: www.gloriaallred.com

Her book: Fight Back and Win - Harper Collins publishers, available at Amazon, Booktopia

Her Netflix Documentary: Seeing Allred

Find her on insta: @gloria.allred     twitter: @gloriaallred

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Ep. 25   Lauren Bath

Deemed “Australia’s first professional Instagrammer” by national media, Lauren Bath pioneered the Australian influencer industry. 

With an online audience of close to half a million followers, she is not only one of Australia’s most powerful travel Instagrammers but also a savvy social media consultant, educator, and public speaker. 

It's a very open discussion and Lauren gives us a great insight as to how she gave up a 'certain' career as a chef and then built an incredible business as a paid instagrammer (and LOTS more besides). She goes into detail about how she's  managed negativity and anonymous online critics, how she's dealt with pain and anxiety and how ongoing personal development has been a vital element to her fulfilment and success. Figuring herself out, is how she put it. And she shares with us the 'secrets' to doing just that.

But the bottom line is, at one stage Lauren had nearly 500,000 followers and has built an incredible business based on several simple rules - and of course she also shares those with us. She teaches how to build your instagram presence. After this chat, I'm certainly signing up. 


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Ep. 24 Dr Cassandra Steer

Cassandra is a mission specialist with the ANU Institute of Space, a senior lecturer in space law and a highly acclaimed author having delivered papers on topics such as The Weaponisation of Outer Space: Ethical and Legal Boundaries and Feminist Perspectives on International Security. And....she's a Wonder Woman obsessive. 

It's a fabulous combination!

If you are at all sceptical about space funding and its benefits, listen to how completely and utterly dependant we are on space for our day to day lives and that without such ongoing funding, chaos would ensue. And very quickly. You can also hear how NASA attempted to show their hand at diversity in the space program with an all female space walk on International Women's Day...only to discover they didn't have enough of the right sized space suits. Seriously. 

It was an informative, fun and really interesting conversation - head to the link in our bio and have a listen.


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Ep. 23  Emma Alberici
As a very highly regarded journalist and television presenter with over 30 years experience, Emma Alberici has some fabulous stories of her time in the industry. And some not so fabulous. She parted ways with the Australian Broadcasting Corporation in 2018 where she was the Chief Economics Correspondent. 

It was a very public departure. To say the least. 

In the fallout that followed, the then Chairman of the ABC, Justin Milne resigned, the then Managing Director, Michelle Guthrie was sacked, the then Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull was throwing his weight around on the issue. Seriously. And Emma was in the middle of it all. Regardless of your personal opinions at the time....can you imagine?

Some of the press were quite vicious towards Emma. Personal and gender based criticisms were, at times, quite relentless. To Emma, that was especially disappointing and disheartening.

So she opened a new chapter. She took a senior role in a fintech company, vowed to never front a TV program again....and set about writing her memoir (to be published later in 2021).

I tried to entice her back with an offer of a joint weekly podcast about politics with a difference. This one would have an idiot sidekick. I even volunteered for the idiot part. She just laughed. Quite rightly. She's happy right where she is. 

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Winner of the 2018 Pulitzer Prize for Drama, Martyna Majok's story is fascinating. 

From a non English speaking Polish immigrant whose mother was a house cleaner, to the very top of the artistic mountain. Martyna has shone a spotlight on the working class immigrants that helped create America by putting them centre stage and imbuing them with the pride, intelligence, warmth, toughness, dedication, resilience, love and compassion that they deserved and that had hitherto been missing from the stage. Equally her insistence on disabled actors playing the disabled characters she created broke new ground. 

The results are moving and profound.

Martyna Majok saw her first theatre show at 17 after buying a ticket with the money she won hustling pool. That experience changed her life.

Have a listen to the story of this extraordinary woman and her journey to becoming one of the most recognised playwrights in the world. 

My only concern is that, during our conversation, I may or may not have challenged her undisputed pool champion's crown. I think I can kiss that money goodbye. 




Dramatic excerpt is from Manhattan Theatre Club's New York premiere of Cost of Living. Directed by Jo Bonney, featuring Jolly Abraham, Gregg Mozgala, Katy Sullivan, Victor Williams (excerpt from playbill.com, supplied by Martyna Majok)

Musical excerpt is from Gnossienne No. 1, Erik Satie by Reinbert de Leeuw (Decca Records, clip supplied by Martyna Majok)

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Tania de Jong AM is a trail-blazing Australian soprano, global speaker, award-winning social entrepreneur, creative innovation catalyst, spiritual journey woman and storyteller. Tania is one of Australia’s most successful female entrepreneurs and innovators having developed 6 businesses and 3 charities over 3 decades.

She is a global authority on creativity, innovation and collaboration. With a grandmother who invented the foldable umbrella, innovation is in her blood. And, as the daughter of Holocaust survivors, she has learnt about resilience and re-invention and developed a passion for diversity and social inclusion.

She is known for her ability to unleash creative energy and capabilities, expand mindsets, build ‘can-do’ teams and strategies to develop a culture of innovation, diversity and inclusion.

 As if all that wasn’t enough, Tania has also released seven albums with her acclaimed singing group Pot-Pourri and has released five solo albums. 

 The results of her work with socially inclusive choirs are astonishing. Her energy and enthusiasm are infectious. Join me for an inspiring and beautifully inclusive conversation.

www.taniadejong.com

http://www.creativeuniverse.com.au/

http://www.creativityaustralia.org.au/

https://mindmedicineaustralia.org.au/

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Ep. 20    Ursula Dubosarsky
Ursula is the current Australian Children's Laureate and one of the most talented and original writers in Australia today. She has won the prestigious Premier's Literary Award in New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia and Queensland. In fact, she's won the NSW Premier's Literary Award an astonishing 5 times. More than any other writer in the award's history. 

A great chat exploring all manner of things including her role as Children's Laureate, the enormous benefits of reading and writing - even her surprisingly adamant defence of 'language' (my emphasis) used in emails and texts. 

We did take quite a few delightfully strange and awkward and fabulous turns - which is bound to happen when you discuss the terrifying language of Old Icelandic (my words)  which Ursula again defends as it was an integral part of her undergraduate university studies.

Ursula's a gem. Astute observations with simple yet erudite explanations. If you've ever wanted to write or you're an avid reader or are determined to become one, or even if you just have a soft spot for Vikings and Old Icelandic......join me for a wander through this fun and enlightening conversation.

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Ep. 19  Sarah Davidson
A truly inspiring story of how a medical episode became the catalyst for a life change and a realisation of what's most important and how to overcome the obstacles both physical and mental, to get there. 

Sarah is such a energetic and upbeat person, you can't help but get swept up in that energy. 

She gives us a road map for leading a fulfilled life. Her determination to 'Seize the Yay' has led to her leaving the "safe" life of a lawyer and founding a successful organic matcha green tea company, Matcha Maiden, as well as a trailblazing cafe Matcha Mylkbar, hosting a very popular podcast, Seize the Yay and publishing a best selling book by the same name. 

From her very personal experiences, she gives us extremely practical  tips and life advice that can lead to the realisation of career and life dreams.

She's a social media influencer - and she deserves to be.

insta: @spoonful_of_sarah
Book: Seize the Yay  www.spoonfulofsarah.com/book
Matcha Mylkbar - St Kilda, Melbourne

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Ruth Kissam risks her life for her work. She's a community organiser and human rights activist in Papua New Guinea focussing on preventing the atrocities committed on girls and women accused of sorcery and witchcraft. Her campaigns and work led to her being selected to attend the highly prestigious Obama Foundation Scholars Program (the first ever person from PNG) which was started by the President and Michelle Obama with a view to supporting 'dynamic collaborative, rising leaders from around the world in an innovative academic and leadership experience.'
Her visions of gender appreciation for women in PNG is inspiring. So is her story.

Reference is made in this episode to GBV, which is gender based violence.

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A national treasure. An Australian icon. 
A performer, writer, director, public advocate for the arts.
Known for her internationally acclaimed one woman shows, her artistic directorship of many national arts festivals, her cabaret performances, her plays, her speaking and writing about the arts around the world.
She talks about herself as a singer....and her show Robyn Archer: A Songbook, is being performed around most states of Australia in 2021. Put it in your diary!


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Episode 132

Melissa Doyle AM

Mel Doyle is so much more than 'an accomplished and awarded journalist with more than 30 years experience'. She's actually one of the best-known and trusted voices and faces in Australian media. And after our conversation for this podcast, it's pretty easy to see why. 

Mel is, of course, best known as the former co-host of the number one rated breakfast program Sunrise. But it's the beginnings of these careers that are just as interesting to me. What was the first break? How did that come about? And it came about when a recently graduated 20 year old Mel Doyle kept pestering a producer in Canberra to give her a go at presenting the weather on TV. She created her own opportunity. And that was something she did a lot. And more importantly, grabbed those opportunities when they did present themselves. 'What's the worst that can happen?'

After 25 very successful years with Channel 7, she was let go. Its happened to most of us, but not in such a public forum. Her response was not only dignified and done with head held high, it was a catalyst for an incredible 'second act'. 

She has written four books, “The Working Mothers Survival Guide” in 2007, her best selling memoir “Alphabet Soup” in 2013, "15 Seconds of Brave" in 2022 and "How to Age Against The Machine" in 2023.  

In the 2016 Australia Day Honours List Mel was made a Member of the Order of Australia (AM) for her "significant service to the community through representational roles with a range of charitable groups, and to the broadcast media."

She is National Patron for the Make A Wish Foundation and an Ambassador for World Vision, The Alannah and Madeline Foundation, The Children’s Hospital at Westmead and Adopt Change.

Head to the link in my bio to have a listen to our podcast chat. 

You'll find her books here:
https://www.amazon.com.au/s?k=melissa+doyle&ref=nb_sb_noss

Image: Nick Leary

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Our shameful (non) treatment of early onset dementia is tackled head on by Kate Swaffer who, at 49, was diagnosed and told to get her end of life affairs in order. She didn't want to do that. 
Twelve years later she is a founding member and CEO of an international organisation charged with changing attitudes and treatment for early onset dementia. As a direct result, Kate was invited to address the Word Health Organisation. And she gave them both barrels.

https://www.dementiaallianceinternational.org/

Kate Swaffer books available on Apple Books:
What The Hell Happened to My Brain
Love Life Loss- A Rollercoaster of Poetry

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Melanie Brock is an expert in international business relations in Japan. Having lived there for thirty years, she is also a torch bearer for women's rights in a country where women's business success and women's rights are not high on the cultural agenda. 

But things are changing thanks in no small part to fabulous women like Melanie. Have a listen to how an Australian steak and wine night in the middle of Tokyo, played a big part in developing a friendship which, in turn, helped develop a trade agreement.

She has some great advice on what it takes to get ahead in an atmosphere and culture that's not, at first glance, conducive to that. 

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Susan Alberti's influence on the business and philanthropic landscape of Australia has been huge (see Part 1 of the interview).  Part 2 explores her enormous influence on her other passion....Australian Rules Football. She has been a pioneer in the men's game and an integral part of the commencement of the professional women's game.

She has a lot of wisdom to pass on to those interested in overcoming hurdles and barriers and succeeding and living a fulfilled life. 

She has just one more goal left to kick.

www.susanalbertifoundation.org.au
www.womens.afl

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From very humble beginnings, Susan Alberti AC became a very successful business woman, one of Australia's pre-eminent philanthropists especially as regards medical research in general and Type 1 diabetes in particular. She was finalist in the Australian of the Year...twice. Awarded as one of the most influential women in sport, she was Vice President of the men's Western Bulldogs AFL club and an integral element in the establishment of the elite AFL women's competition.

But the road to these successes and accolades was strewn with tragedy and great personal loss. Her real success, to me, was overcoming these things and continuing on to lead a very fulfilled life.......with one more goal to kick.

www.susanalbertifoundation.org.au

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Brilliant insight to the benefits of being open to opportunities. Margie Seale gives us a raft of extremely valuable advice gathered through her personal experiences as to how she went from modest corporate beginnings, to become one of the most sought after non-executive directors in the country. 
For those wanting to take the step from corporate executive to non-executive director, we've got you covered here as well.
Rather then just looking at the end product (a successful non-executive director on blue chip boards) and thinking it's very difficult to achieve, it's the many small steps that lead there that are fascinating and revealing to me. 
Life is a journey and it's the wisdom of those that have travelled these roads that is almost essential listening.

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A down to earth and inspiring advocate for Australia's remote, rural and regional areas and people. A fabulous, unique and very Australian backstory. But it doesn't all go to plan. Early this year, Susan contracted covid 19 herself. She gives a first hand account of the effect of the pain and guilt she felt. She discusses the repercussions both good....and really bad. A warm and engaging chat with a country politician who has a genuine optimism for the future...as long as there is a steak and a beer thrown in somewhere.

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Dame Jane Harding changed global medical practice for the treatment of babies...twice.

For info on helping the Liggins Institute or applying for a position to assist Dame Jane:
www.auckland.ac.nz/en/liggins.html

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Two indigenous sisters run a 100% aboriginal owned civil construction and mining company in the unforgiving Pilbara region. It’s a great story.

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A professor who has dedicated her life to develop and research strategies to improve children and adolescent's wellbeing, with a focus on mental health. Donna opens up in this conversation to show us how her extensive research has influenced both state and federal government policy.

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CEO of Adopt Change, Renee has dedicated her life to advocate for the rights of children to grow up in a safe, nurturing and stable family home. She gives us an insight into her world in this inspiring and uplifting conversation. 

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Episode 131

SARAH WILSON

Sarah is best known for being the founder of the global I Quit Sugar movement, a digital wellness program with 13 award-winning books that sell in 52 countries – which saw millions around the world transform their health. In 2022 she sold the business and gave everything to charity.

She is an experienced journalist and broadcaster. She was previously the editor of Cosmopolitan Australia at age 29; host of MasterChef Australia; was a News Corp journalist and columnist; and has hosted ABC’s Compass, Ten’s The Project and has been a regular panellist and news commentator on Australian, UK and US screens for two decades.

Her New York Times bestseller First, We Make the Beast Beautiful is described by bestselling author (The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck) Mark Manson as, “The best book on living with anxiety that I’ve ever read”, and was featured as the book of the year on NBC’s Today Show. It’s published in 27 countries. Sarah’s most recent title, This One Wild & Precious Life, won the 2021 US Gold Nautilus Prize.

She has been ranked in the top 200 most influential authors in the world (two years in a row), and now resides and works most of the year in Paris where she lives and loves a minimalist life. 

And this all reads like a bit of a career dream. But there have been plenty of nightmares along the way. Our discussion on resilience I found fascinating as well as finding out (to Sarah - and probably all of us in reality), what really matters. All these findings of hers are the result of countless hours of research and interviews and one of the many things I took away from this is the importance of nature. The incredibly positive impact it can have if we just 'get out there.'

Head to the link in my bio to have a listen to Sarah Wilson's episode.

The book referred to:
First, We Make the Beast Beautiful
https://www.amazon.com.au/first-make-beast-beautiful-Anxiety-ebook/dp/B01N12WLAX

Her other books and links to her Substack can be found on her website:
www.sarahwilson.com

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A pioneer’s reflections on overcoming self doubt, making brave decisions, the benefits of support and community, leadership and what 'having a go’ can lead to.

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Rural medicine pioneer and a passionate advocate for the benefits of community.

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Born of Indian heritage in apartheid South Africa. Pride prevailed over prejudice. Australia then became the platform for Sanushka to mend cultural bridges....and become a top 100 Woman of Influence. 

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