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A Snippett - Ep23: Why 'Feeling Better' Is Keeping You Small (3min)06 Jul 202600:03:31

From the QUALITY OF MIND Podcast

Part of our 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

Snippet Episode 32:

Comfort is Quietly Killing Us | Why Real Freedom Isn’t What You Think

In this excerpt from the Quality of Mind: Transforming Business podcast, we explore a powerful illusion that underpins much of modern life: the pursuit of comfort as a path to freedom.

From coping in the workplace to chasing emotional ease, we innocently limit our lives to what feels “safe” or “manageable.” But true freedom isn’t found in avoiding discomfort—it’s found in being free with it.

Discover why the pursuit of comfort often contracts our experience rather than expands it, and how real liberation lies in seeing beyond the pedestal we’ve put feelings on.

 

00:21 The Illusion of Comfort

00:37 True Freedom Defined

01:05 The Trap of Seeking Comfort

02:06 Workplace Realities and Coping

03:03 Embracing Discomfort for Growth

A Snippet (Ep 22): You are NOT choosing Your Thoughts (4min)06 Jul 202600:04:11
From the QUALITY OF MIND Podcast Part of the ‘Not Even 5 Mins Series’ (Ep22)

In this short Quality of Mind snippet, we explore one of the most provocative implications of the Quality of Mind understanding: there is choosing, but no separate chooser ie. we don't have a separate free word or agency. 

It can look obvious that “I” am the one making choices.

I decide. I think. I act. I control. I make things happen.

But when we slow down and look more carefully, something interesting begins to reveal itself.

There is thinking going on.

There is choosing going on.

There is doing going on.

But can we actually find a separate thinker, chooser or doer behind it all?

In this snippet, Piers points to the difference between turning Quality of Mind into another technique, compared to noticing what is already happening before the mind turns it into a personal task.

The usual assumption is that there is a separate body-mind “me” with agency and control over thoughts, actions, behaviours and outcomes. That assumption is so familiar that we rarely question it.

But but when we look at it differently directly, the picture looks different.

Thoughts arise. Actions happen. The body moves. Words come. Decisions appear.

And then the mind often claims ownership afterwards.

“I did that.”

“I chose that.”

“I thought that.”

Quality of Mind invites us to look directly at this.

Where did the thought actually come from?

Did “you” choose the thought before it appeared?

Or did the thought simply appear, with the idea of “me thinking it” arriving as another thought?

This is the simple but powerful distinction:

There is choosing, but no chooser.

There is thinking, but no thinker.

There is doing, but no separate doer.

This is not about becoming passive, fatalistic or detached from life. Life clearly continues. Choices still appear. Action still happens. Planning still happens. Responsibility still has practical meaning.

But the pressure of the separate “me” trying to control the whole system can begin to loosen.

And that matters.

Because so much of our stress, striving and overthinking comes from the assumption that there is a separate self inside the system who must get the right thoughts, make the right choices and control the right outcomes in order to be okay.

When that assumption softens, flow often becomes more available.

Not because we have learned a better way to control life.

But because we have begun to see that life was never being run by a separate controller in the first place.

Curious? Want to know more?

This is a short extract from a longer conversation with fellow coach Deborah, where we explore Quality of Mind, flow, self-identification, the illusion of free will, and what it means to notice life happening before the idea of a separate “me” takes ownership.

Full episode: Here

Follow-up resources:

Explore all things Quality of Mind: https://www.qualityofmind.biz/

3-Minute Quality of Mind Quiz: Discover how much your understanding of the mind may already be shaping your performance, peace and potential: https://www.qualityofmind.biz/quiz/

Audio Intro Short Course: A short introduction to the understanding behind Before Psychology: https://qualityofmind.online/courses/qomaudiointrocourse/

Video: Why Do We Describe Quality of Mind as Before Psychology? — clear short intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y99iy9yiCeM

Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind: https://qualityofmind.biz/real-results/ 

Follow Piers on LinkedIn for regular posts and reflections: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/piersthurston

Subscribe to our YouTube channel for quick, powerful insight videos: https://www.youtube.com/c/qualityofmind

For a more in-depth look into the Before Psychology nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind, explore here:

TASTE THE MANGO — YouTube and Substack all about Direct Inquiry. Explore for yourself: https://tastethemango1.substack.com/

A Snippet (Ep21): All Reality is Real and Never True. (3min)03 Jul 202600:02:46

From the QUALITY OF MIND Podcast

Part of the 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'  Episode: 21

 

In this short Quality of Mind snippet (episode 14), we explore one of the core implications explored in Quality of Mind: Real but Never True.

Everything we experience is real in the sense that it is vivid, felt and alive. We can feel it in the body. It can look obvious. It can seem to be happening to us.

But that does not mean it is ultimately true in the way it appears.

Using the example of a vivid dream, this snippet points to how an experience can feel completely real while it is happening. The body can react, the heart can race, and the experience can seem undeniable. Yet when we wake up, we recognise that it was not objectively happening to us in the way it appeared.

Quality of Mind invites us to consider whether waking life is more similar than we normally assume.

Not fake. Not imaginary. But a perceptual creation.

Real as experience, but not true as a fixed, objective reality happening outside the mind to a separate “me”.

This matters because so much of our stress, pressure and reactivity comes from believing that our wellbeing is determined by external events and circumstances.

The difficult email. The bank balance. The work issue. The family drama. The thing that did or did not happen.

When these are taken as objectively determining us, psychological freedom narrows.

When we begin to see that experience is real but never true, something loosens. We can still deal with the practical realities of life, but with less identification, less contraction and more freedom.

Curious? Want to know more?

This is a short extract from a longer conversation with fellow coach Adam, where we go deeper into the avatar, the Case of Mistaken Identity, Direct Inquiry, and what it means to see beyond the self we usually take ourselves to be.

Full episode: When a lifelong coach encounters Quality of Mind: exploring beyond the avatar

Follow-up resources:

Explore all things Quality of Mind: www.qualityofmind.biz

3-Minute Quality of Mind Quiz: Discover how much your understanding of the mind may already be shaping your performance, peace and potential

The Game Behind the Game: Football & Quality of Mind11 Jun 202600:57:48
The podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation.

Football, Flow and the Game of Life: What Sport Reveals About the Mind

In this episode, Piers is joined again by Craig Wilman for a different kind of Quality of Mind conversation: using football as a live metaphor for the mind, performance, identity, flow and the way we relate to life.

Starting with the strange joy of Spurs fans celebrating survival, Piers and Craig explore why our happiness often looks conditional on outcomes, whether that’s a football result, a work promotion, a presentation, a business result, or life going the way we think it should.

The conversation moves through football fandom, tribal identity, penalties, pressure, VAR, flow state and the illusion of getting life “right”. Beneath the humour and football chat is a deeper question: what changes when we see that life, like football, is real, meaningful and alive, but not ultimately who we are?

This episode points to a simple but powerful insight: when we see life more like a game, we do not become less engaged. We become more present, freer, more creative and less burdened by the need for everything to go our way.

Key Discussion Takeaways
  • Football shows us how quickly joy, disappointment, identity and meaning can be created by narratives and thought.
  • Pressure is not caused by the importance of the moment, but by self-identification with the outcome.
  • Flow happens more naturally when there is less “me” trying to control, prove or perform.
  • Seeing something as “just a game” does not make it trivial. It can make us more present and alive within it.
  • VAR becomes a metaphor for the human habit of overthinking, over-optimising and trying to get life perfectly right.
  • The same freedom football fans can feel when they step outside the stadium is available in the rest of life too, even in the apparently serious stuff.
Key Chapters include:

00:00 Introduction: why football belongs on a Quality of Mind podcast 01:28 Joy vs relief: Spurs, survival and conditional happiness 06:28 Healthy and unhealthy attachment to football 07:34 “Real and never true”: football as a metaphor for life 10:49 Passion, presence and neutral attachment 15:19 Tribal identity, separation and the safety of belonging 18:24 Fan behaviour, pantomime and football as a learned role 20:19 Football hooliganism, primal instincts and contraction 24:09 England, penalties and discovering okayness after defeat 26:28 Penalties, pressure and attachment to outcome 31:33 Identity, performance and what happens when we go “off the boil” 34:14 Psychological safety and the training mindset 39:03 Flow state in sport, work and creativity 42:22 VAR: overthinking, optimisation and the joy we accidentally remove 49:17 Why okayness is already built in 53:28 The game of football and the game of life 55:48 Losing yourself in joy, then remembering you are still okay

Curious? Want to know more?

Explore all things Quality of Mind at 3-Minute Quality of Mind Quiz Discover how much your understanding of the mind may already be shaping your performance, peace, and potential.

Audio Intro Short Course A short introduction to the understanding behind Before Psychology.

Get started with the e-book

Follow Piers Thurston on LinkedIn for regular posts and insights exploring the Quality of Mind understanding.

The Point of Now: Identity, Presence and Seeing Through the Busy Mind17 May 202600:51:57
The Point of Now: Presence, Identity and Seeing Through the Busy Mind  The podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation.

A simple yet powerful way to see through the noisy mind 

In this episode, Piers speaks with fellow coach and author Suzie Yeulett about her new book The Point of Now, and the simple but profound direction it points towards: the present moment, the nature of thought, and the resilience that is already available beneath the noise of the mind.

The conversation explores how much of our suffering comes from living in the mind’s projections of past and future, and how presence is not something we need to find, force or practise, but something that is already here. Suzie shares how her own experience of being with her mother at the end of life revealed a natural resilience that she had not created through tools, techniques or self-improvement.

Piers and Suzie also explore the deeper Quality of Mind theme of mistaken identity: what is the “self” actually made of, and what changes when identity is seen as thought, sensation and perception rather than something solid? The episode moves from practical examples of anxiety and overthinking into a deeper inquiry into presence, feeling, identity and the possibility of living with less striving and more natural clarity.

Key Discussion Takeaways
  • Presence is already here - it is not something we need to manufacture or force
  • Much of our pressure comes from thought travelling into past and future
  • Identity is not fixed or solid; it appears through thought, sensation and perception
  • The “self” may not be something to improve, but something to see through
  • Feeling is not a problem to fix - we are designed to feel
  • This is not about adding another technique, reframe or grounding tool
  • Simple noticing can reveal how the mind works and naturally lighten the load
  • Life becomes less serious when the role of the mind is seen more clearly
Key Chapters include:

 

03:33 How change can happen through recognition rather than tools or techniques

05:08 Suzie explains “the point of now” and her inverted triangle framework

06:50 Presence is already here - we are not looking for something missing

08:42 The everyday operating system of busy-mindedness and control

10:08 Anxiety, overthinking and asking: “where is the problem right now?”

12:18  The “fear of fear” and how anticipation creates suffering

13:51 Realisation versus using presence as another technique

14:48 What is identity, and why “shifting identity” may miss the deeper point

16:05 Direct experience inquiry and seeing the self as psychological

18:49 The case of mistaken identity and why it keeps us in the operating mind

20:10 Taking things personally and how that contracts perspective

21:24 Neutral noticing, expanded aperture and seeing that it is not really happening to “me”

23:17 The part of us that is undamaged by experience

24:35 Why we are designed to feel, rather than distract ourselves from feeling

27:05 When the conceptual mind has nowhere to go

28:07 What babies show us about feeling without self-identification

29:38 Seeing the mind move from invisible, to subtle, to obvious

32:24 How trying to be present can reinforce the separate self

36:54 How far simple noticing can take us

38:11 Loosening the conviction of separate identity

41:10 The relief of seeing there may not be a problem to fix

41:51 Why the words are not the point - the recognition underneath is

43:47 Natural change versus more tools, protocols and strategies

50:15 Life becomes less serious when we take the mind less seriously

     

Curious? Want to know more?

 

Explore all things Quality of Mind at www.qualityofmind.biz

3-Minute Quality of Mind Quiz Discover how much your understanding of the mind may already be shaping your performance, peace, and potential.

Audio Intro Short Course A short introduction to the understanding behind Before Psychology.

Get started with the e-book

Follow Piers Thurston on LinkedIn for regular posts and reflections.

Subscribe to the Quality of Mind YouTube channel for short insight videos exploring Before Psychology.

TASTE THE MANGO — YouTube All about Direct Inquiry. Explore for yourself.

 

The Hidden Cause of Procrastination — It’s Not ''What'' You Think23 Mar 202600:44:44
The podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation.

What if procrastination isn’t a discipline problem at all — but a misunderstanding about how the mind works?

Are you ready to explore the real cause of procrastination?

 

In this episode, Piers is interviewed by Deborah Hurwitz, host of the Productivity for Perfectionists Summit. The conversation explores why so many intelligent, driven people struggle with procrastination, overthinking, and pressure — and why most solutions fail to address the real leverage point. Deborah asked some excellent questions to explore the Quality of Mind before psychology understanding. 

Rather than offering tools to manage thoughts, Piers points to something more fundamental: the understanding that our experience of life arises before psychology.

Through practical examples, metaphors, and direct inquiry, the conversation explores how perfectionism, procrastination, and the “busy brain” are not problems to fix, but signals pointing to a deeper misunderstanding about the nature of the human experience.

When this misunderstanding begins to dissolve, clarity, creativity, and ease naturally return — not through effort, but through insight.

 

Key Discussion Takeaways
  • Why trying to fix your thinking with more thinking is like trying to get dry in the shower without turning the water off

  • The difference between application and implication when it comes to psychological insight

  • Why perfectionists often feel stuck between control and procrastination

  • How flow states reveal the absence of the “separate doer”

  • The idea that our experience of life consists of thought, sensation, and perception

  • Why psychological experiences can be real but never true

  • How emotions and sensations act as indicators of how much we’re believing our thinking

  • Why resisting feelings often intensifies them — and how simply allowing sensation dissolves the struggle

  • What it means to explore the space before psychology, where clarity and possibility naturally arise

  • Why the future we imagine through thinking is always finite, while the space before thought is infinite

Key Chapters

00:00 – Trying to fix thinking with thinking 02:15 – Why the problem isn’t the problem 04:02 – The shower metaphor and the real leverage point 05:45 – Flow state and the absence of the separate self 09:30 – Procrastination and self-identification 10:15 – There is choosing, but no chooser 14:04 – Thought, sensation, and perception 18:18 – Real, but never true 22:00 – Sensation indicators and aperture 27:30 – Why we avoid feeling 28:00 – Leaning into sensation 31:41 – What lies upstream of the busy brain 34:31 – Infinite possibility before thought 37:30 – It happens by subtraction 38:40 – The Netflix screen metaphor 41:39 – The case of mistaken identity 44:12 – From invisible, to subtle, to obvious

 

Curious? Want to know more?

Explore Deborah Hurwitz’s Productivity for Perfectionists Summit, where this conversation originally took place. The summit brings together leading thinkers exploring fresh approaches to productivity, performance, and the pressures many high achievers place on themselves. Highly recommended. 

Explore all things Quality of Mind at www.qualityofmind.biz

3-Minute Quality of Mind Quiz Discover how much your understanding of the mind may already be shaping your performance, peace, and potential.

Audio Intro Short Course A short introduction to the understanding behind Before Psychology.

Get started with the e-book

Follow Piers Thurston on LinkedIn for regular posts and reflections.

Subscribe to the Quality of Mind YouTube channel for short insight videos exploring Before Psychology.

TASTE THE MANGO — YouTube All about Direct Inquiry. Explore for yourself.

 

What If the Self You’re Trying to Improve Isn’t There?06 Mar 202600:54:38
The podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation. What if a huge amount of human stress, striving, and psychological effort comes from trying to fix, improve, and manage a self that isn’t actually what we think it is? Are you ready to explore that now? 

In this episode of the Quality of Mind: Transforming Business podcast, Piers is joined once again by regular guest and fellow Quality of Mind collaborator Katrijn Van Oudheudsen to explore her newly republished book, Seeing No Self.

At a time when modern culture increasingly promotes self-optimisation, productivity hacks, and constant self-improvement, this conversation questions a deeper assumption behind it all: the idea that we are a separate psychological self who must constantly be fixed, improved, and managed.

Through the lens of Direct Inquiry, Katrijn explains why this belief sits at the root of much unnecessary stress, pressure, and psychological effort — and how investigating our experience directly can reveal something very different.

Rather than offering another philosophy, mindset technique, or spiritual belief system, Seeing No Self invites readers to explore a practical and experiential approach to discovering what we actually are before the psychological identity we spend so much energy maintaining.

The conversation explores why this understanding is becoming increasingly relevant in a culture driven by identity, performance pressure, and personal responsibility — and why direct inquiry offers a simple yet powerful way to look beyond it.

Key Discussion Takeaways
  • The modern self-improvement culture can unintentionally reinforce psychological pressure
  • The belief in a separate self creates unnecessary stress and identity management
  • Direct Inquiry offers a practical way to investigate experience rather than adopt beliefs
  • Seeing through the illusion of the self reveals natural peace, intelligence, and potential
  • This understanding is relevant not only for wellbeing but also for leadership and performance
Key Chapters include:

00:00 The Pressure of Modern Self-Improvement 03:30 What “Seeing No Self” Actually Means 04:40 The Hidden Resource Behind the Psychological Self 07:00 Why This Understanding Is Relevant for Everyone 10:50 The Cultural Pressure to Improve Ourselves 15:40 What Direct Inquiry Really Is 27:10 Why the Illusion of Self Is More Fragile Than It Appears 38:00 Direct Inquiry vs Traditional Spiritual Approaches 42:00 Why Most People Avoid Looking Directly 44:40 Why Inquiry Is Simpler Than We Think 46:50 Who This Book Is (and Isn’t) For

Curious — want to know more?

Buy, read and review the book now. 

You can find out more about Katrijn Van Oudheusden and her work on Daily Non-Duality Substack.

Explore all things Quality of Mind at www.qualityofmind.biz

Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here.

Follow Piers Thurston on LinkedIn for regular posts and reflections.

Subscribe to the Quality of Mind YouTube channel for short insight videos exploring Before Psychology.

TASTE THE MANGO — YouTube  all about Direct Inquiry. Explore for yourself.

Enjoyed the episode?

If this episode speaks to you, please follow, share, and leave a review. It helps more people discover a conversation that could genuinely change how they understand themselves, their work, and their lives.

From Mental Load to Clarity: A CEO’s Shift with Quality of Mind15 Feb 202600:34:39
The podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation. A real-world testimonial,: A CEO, what's changed a few months after Quality of Mind coaching 

Most leaders aren’t burnt out.

They’re functioning.

Delivering. Growing. Carrying.

But underneath that capability, there can be a constant mental load — an invisible weight of control, responsibility, and inner management that never quite switches off.

In this episode of Quality of Mind: Transforming Business, Piers is joined by Nicola Merritt, Founder and CEO of a 60-person M&A advisory firm.

On paper, things were working.

But internally, leadership felt heavier than it needed to.

This conversation isn’t about tactics, resilience strategies, or productivity systems.

It’s about what changed when Nicola began to see the source of her mental load differently — not at the level of behaviour, but at the level of understanding.

In this episode, we explore:
  • Why high-performing leaders often create unnecessary psychological pressure

  • The difference between confidence and deeper self-assurance

  • How control subtly becomes exhausting

  • What happens when the need to constantly manage thinking begins to drop

  • Why clarity doesn’t need to be manufactured

  • The shift from striving to something more sustainable

  • How leadership matures when mental noise settles

What changed?

Nicola didn’t lose ambition.

She didn’t reduce standards.

She didn’t step back from responsibility.

What shifted was her relationship with pressure amd clarity.

The constant mental overdrive softened.

She moved to a four-day week.

She switched off her phone on holiday.

She describes finding peace not only in stillness — but in the middle of business noise.

Not because circumstances changed.

Because understanding did.

Who this conversation is for

This episode will resonate if you:

  • Lead a growing organisation

  • Feel the invisible weight of responsibility

  • Are successful but quietly tired of the mental grind

  • Have tried systems, structures, and optimisation — but sense something deeper is missing

Quality of Mind doesn’t offer tools to manage your psychology.

It points to what sits before it. What we describe as Before Psychology 

And when that is seen clearly, leadership often becomes lighter — without becoming weaker.

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Why Most Mindset & Performance Tools Wear Off – and Why Quality of Mind Doesn’t16 Jan 202600:31:23
The podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation. A real-world testimonial, two years after the Quality of Mind programme

Most personal development delivers a breakthrough high.

A lift. A sense of clarity. A feeling that something important has shifted.

And then… it fades.

In this episode Piers is joined by Cassie, who is a leader at Shell in Incident Mmanagement for a testimonial conversation recorded over two years after she attended the Quality of Mind Three-Day Open Programme.

This is not a reflection on what felt good at the time.

It’s an honest exploration of what lasted.

Cassie shares how her understanding of Quality of Mind didn’t wear off, didn’t require maintaining, and didn’t depend on tools, techniques, or habits to keep it alive. In fact, she describes how it has continued to deepen naturally, long after the programme ended.

This episode goes beyond the usual “breakthrough moment” and looks at what happens when when meta-realisation have no half-life.

In this episode, we explore:
  • Why many mindset, performance, and wellbeing approaches fade over time

  • What’s different when change comes from understanding rather than effort

  • How clarity, lightness, and spaciousness emerge without self-management

  • Why Quality of Mind isn’t about fixing yourself or becoming better

  • How relationships change when you see others as shaped by experience, not character

  • What it’s like to live and work without constant inner commentary

  • Why this understanding continues to work because there’s nothing to maintain

Beyond the breakthrough high

Cassie didn’t come to the programme because something was broken. She came out of curiosity.

What followed wasn’t a technique to apply or a state to chase, but a fundamental shift in how she understands thinking, emotion, pressure, and experience itself.

Two years on, she describes a Quality of Mind that hasn’t diminished with time, hasn’t required reinforcement, and hasn’t relied on discipline or practice to survive.

As she puts it simply in the conversation:

“It hasn’t worn off. It doesn’t have a half-life.”

Who this episode is for:
  • Leaders and professionals who’ve tried mindset or performance tools before

  • People who sense there’s nothing wrong with them, but still feel unnecessary strain

  • Those tired of managing their mind instead of understanding it

  • Anyone curious about change that lasts without effort

This is not a promise of constant positivity or a life without challenge.

It’s a real-world account of what happens when the misunderstanding that creates mental noise quietly falls away.

If this conversation resonates, you’re invited to explore further 

🔗 Learn more about Quality of Mind and the Three-Day Open Programme at qualityofmind.biz

 

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Why Life Works Better When You Stop Trying to Control It22 Dec 202500:51:41
The podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation. Why Some People Seem Lucky (And It’s Not What You Think).   This conversation is an exploration of something many people already sense — but rarely trust.

Most people assume that if life isn’t working, they need to try harder, think better, or fix something about themselves.

But what if the opposite is true?

In this episode of the Quality of Mind podcast, Piers Thurston is joined by entrepreneur and author James Eder, whose has been shaped by a sequence of opportunities, connections, and breakthroughs that seem to arrive when he’s not forcing them. As you listen just notice when something feels lighter — and when it feels effortful.  That contrast is the point. In James new book the Collision Code he recounters his stories of finding himself in moments of clarity, flow, and serendipity — often without trying to make them happen.

Together, Piers and James explore:

  • Why intuition feels obvious after the fact but hard to trust in the moment

  • How effort and over-thinking quietly block clarity and momentum

  • The difference between being committed to life and being attached to outcomes

  • Why some experiences feel overwhelming at the time, yet trivial in hindsight

  • How recognition changes experience more than understanding ever could

This is not a “how-to” episode. It’s an invitation to notice something you may already recognise in your own life — the moments when things worked best before you stepped in to manage them.

If you’re curious about performance, leadership, wellbeing, or decision-making — and you’re tired of hacks and techniques — this conversation offers a different place to look.

Rather than analysing this intellectually, the conversation invites listeners to notice the difference between effort and ease in their own experience — and what changes when the mind stops interfering.

It’s an exploration of something many people already sense — but rarely trust.

About the guest: James Eder is an entrepreneur and the author of The Collision Code, a book exploring serendipity, connection, and the surprising role other people play in shaping our lives. Proceeds from the book support charitable causes.

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The Understanding That Changed Everything: A Real-World Look at Quality of Mind08 Dec 202500:55:05
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation.

Trying to manage the mind is like trying to get dry in the shower without turning the water off.

What if the biggest shifts in life don’t come from trying to improve your mindset, but from understanding something far more fundamental about how the mind actually works?

This episode it's taken from a recording where Piers  was on the Deadlines and Details podcast which is hosted by Matt Barrington Packer, who came on the Quality of Mind Open Programme in March 2025 

Matt shares how Quality of Mind changed his life, after years of trying to stay calm, stay focused, or stay in control, he finally saw something upstream of all of that: a deeper layer of mind that changes everything from the inside out. No techniques, no hacks, no effort — just a shift in understanding that made the world look and feel different.

Together, they explore what sits behind this kind of real-world change, how it becomes practical without being prescriptive, and why so many people sense this truth long before they have language for it.

This episode explores:
  • The “aperture of mind” and why the same situation can feel totally different from one moment to the next

  • Flow, ease and clarity as natural by-products of a less self-identified mind

  • Why the mind’s “unreliable narrator” creates so much unnecessary pressure

  • The role of sensation, story and selfing in shaping our experience

  • Why mindset tools and techniques only ever offer partial relief

  • How insight — not effort — leads to real and sustainable transformation

  • What this understanding offers leaders, teams and anyone wanting a more easeful way of being

Why this episode matters:

This is not a story about willpower or mental strategies. It’s a simple, grounded exploration of what changes in everyday life when someone begins to understand the mind before psychology — and why that understanding is so relevant for today’s world of constant change, ambiguity, and cognitive load. Matt actually called this episode on his show. “Is This It?” Mid-Life, Burnout & The Truth About How Your Mind Really Works

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‘Before Psychology’ on a Bike: Through Fear, Flow, and Aliveness26 Oct 202500:51:03
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation.

 

“You Can’t Train Flow — You Can Only Stop Interrupting It”

 

🧭 Episode Summary

In this special episode, the tables turn — Piers becomes the guest. Joined by friend and regular contributor Craig Willman, he explores what happens when the principles of Quality of Mind are taken out of the conversation room and onto the road — quite literally.

After saying yes to a 750km cycling challenge from Milan to Rome, Piers explores with his years of understanding “Before Psychology,” how the mind can still weave its illusions — of fear, striving, and self-doubt. What unfolds is a personal, honest and often funny exploration of how the illusion of self, the myth of control, and the nature of flow play out in real life.

If this conversation sparked something in you — whether you’re a leader, a creator, or simply someone curious about what’s before the mind — explore more at qualityofmind.biz.

And if you’d like to support the Ride25 fundraising for 1MoreChild, visit the link 

🧭 What you’ll hear 
  • A personal story of saying “yes” to a challenge for aliveness, not ego.

  • How the Quality of Mind realization of Real but Never True applies when your legs burn or a descent feels scary.

  • Why experts “see” fewer hazards—and how that translates to leadership.

  • What flow actually feels like on the bike and a simple, everyday way to notice what doesn’t come and go—without a bike or Italy

🚲 If you’re a cyclist (new to Quality of Mind)

You’ll get:

  • A relatable breakdown of the mental side of riding: climbs, descents, headwinds, skills.

  • How perception (your “aperture”) can make a hill look steeper—or simpler—without changing your fitness.

  • A practical pointer to find more calm and flow on rides and in life, with no hacks or rituals.

🧠 If you’re a Quality of Mind regular

You’ll hear:

  • Lived examples of Before Psychology in a “physical” domain.

  • Subtle ego re-appearances (“managing the cyclist” vs training the body).

  • Oneness & flow as non-identification, not state chasing.

  • How the ego subtly reappears as the voice of “trying your hardest.”

  • What “real but never true” means when your legs are burning on a climb.

  • Why flow can’t be trained — only revealed by stopping interference.

  • How the same insight that transforms leadership also transforms cycling.

  • And why aliveness doesn’t come from comfort or discomfort — but from seeing what’s truly before both.

It’s a personal glimpse behind the mic — a lived demonstration of what “Before Psychology” looks like when rubber meets the road.

And if you’d like to support the Ride25 fundraising for 1MoreChild, visit the link 

 

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When a Lifelong Coach Encounters Quality of Mind: Exploring Beyond the Avatar.19 Oct 202501:12:51
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation.

🧭 Episode Summary

In this open and thought-provoking episode, Piers welcomes Adam Shuty to discuss his diverse journey from martial arts, to standup comedy, and his current enterprise, Everest Longevity. Having explored decades of personal development, performance psychology, and transformation work, Adam wanted to know: What exactly is this “Before Psychology” thing? His immediate resonance with the conversation signalled there was more to see.  What unfolds is a live exploration and inquiry looking fresh to see what sits beyond all methods and mindsets.

The Discussion Covers

  • The case of mistaken identity — why believing we are a separate “me” is the root illusion behind all striving.
  • The sky and the weather — a simple metaphor for understanding awareness and thought.
  • ''Real but never true'' — how experience can feel vividly real yet not be fundamentally true or causal.
  • From trying to flow — why the intelligence of life does better work when we stop trying to manage our minds.
  • Direct experience inquiry — how to look freshly, without concepts, and glimpse what never comes or goes.
  • Practical implications — what happens to leadership, relationships, and even financial legacy when we see who we truly are.

 

0:00 Introduction to Quality of Mind 01:05 Adam's Journey, Philosophy and Career 07:00 Exploring the Concept of Quality of Mind 07:27 The Secret Sauce to Unlocking Potential 16:31 The Case of Mistaken Identity 18:37 The Nature of Human Experience 22:12 The Illusion of Separate Self 36:29 Understanding Time Perception 37:10 The Evolution of Life and Perception 38:27 The Case of Mistaken Identity 40:40 The Concept of the True Self 43:06 Realizing the True Self 44:57 Practical Applications and Realizations 48:52 The Path to Realization 51:01 Direct Experience and Awareness 66:06 Final Thoughts and Deciding We a Need Part 2!

 

✉️ Connect & Learn More 

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From Striving to Flow: How to Fall Back in Love with Work03 Sep 202500:56:54
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation.

🧭 Episode Summary

In this practical-meets-profound conversation, Piers welcomes back Craig to explore how people can genuinely love the work part of work—not by adding hacks and perks, but by subtracting what obscures our natural flow.

Craig shares his new venture, Love Your Work, and a simple doorway into effortless productivity: Rather than pushing or “trying harder,” we explore how work becomes energising when the self isn’t busy resisting or controlling. Expect a grounded entry point that naturally points upstream to the deeper Before Psychology understanding—so the benefits don’t stop at a better half-hour block, they recalibrate how you work and live.

We cover:

  • Subtraction over addition: Why real engagement comes from removing friction, not adding pool tables, perks, or more process.

  • The OFF Method: A practical way to turn everyday tasks and meetings into “objective meditation”—revealing the system’s built-in intelligence.

  • From trying to allowing: How “trying” creates dissatisfaction and worse results, while allowing reveals presence, ease, and better outcomes.

  • Aperture & flow at work: Why the same spreadsheet can feel draining one day and enlivening the next—clue: it’s not the spreadsheet.

  • Art, sport & emergence: Brilliance arrives when the personal self steps aside 

  • From practice to default: Start with a doorway like OFF; let it point you to upstream seeing so flow becomes the baseline, not a borrowed state.

🔎 For listeners who:

  • Sense there’s more to work than grinding—and want results with ease, not instead of ease.

  • Lead teams and are tired of context-switching, Slack pings, and “performative productivity.”

  • Want a non-woo, practical entry to deeper insight that actually improves delivery, wellbeing, and culture.

  • Are curious about non-duality/Before Psychology but prefer a work-first, lived experience

🧩 Mentioned in the episode

  • Love Your Work — Craig’s new venture (how to make work itself your source of wellbeing).

  • The OFF Method (Objective • Focus • Flow) — simple instructions, profound implications.

  • Aperture / Self-identification / Is-ness — the upstream principles behind effortless performance.

  • Cold-shower / Urge-surfing analogy — leaning into sensation vs. conceptualising it.

  • The Meta Realisation: The source of all lack of flow = Self identification 

✉️ Connect & Learn More from Craig

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''More Than a Lifetime of Coaching — In Just 3 Days!''12 Aug 202500:08:11

From the QUALITY OF MIND Podcast

 

Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore 'Before Psychology'  - What is that, and does it help? Listen here

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

 

Curious - want to know more?

  • Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
  • Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
  • For a more in depth looking into the Before Psychology nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind listen here  or here
  • Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
  • Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts
A Snippet - Ep 20: A Business Owner Reflects on the Real Impact of Quality of Mind (5min)31 Jul 202500:05:49

SNIPPETS From the QUALITY OF MIND Podcast

Part of our 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

Ep 20:  ''A Business Owner Reflects on the Real Impact of Quality of Mind (5min)

 

What if the life you thought was already great… could feel even more alive, connected, and easeful?

In this short testimonial episode, Chris, a successful business owner, shares how the Quality of Mind programme revealed a whole new way of being. Not by adding tools or strategies, but by subtracting the misunderstandings that cloud our experience, and how he wishes he'd done it sooner in life

Listen in as he reflects on:

• The surprising difference he felt • Why even “perfect” lives can feel more free • Amplified his sense of peace and connection • Made time alone something to savour • Helped him show up in life and work with more presence and joy

A beautifully grounded and human account of what becomes possible when we see Before Psychology.

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!! 

Curious - want to know more?

  • Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
  • Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
  • For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
  • Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
  • Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

 

Why the Most Effective Leaders Are Tuning Out of the Noise and Tapping Into the Field19 Jun 202500:54:29
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''Before Psychology'' - the Secret Source' that exponentially increases the peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation. 🧭 Episode Summary:

Leading from Your Highest Frequency: The Shift That Changes Everything - What if the secret to transformation wasn’t more effort, but less?

In this conversation, Piers is joined by Carolina—a self-described “quantum-preneur” and lifelong system challenger—to explore what lies beyond the conventional narrative of psychological effort, productivity, and leadership. T

Drawing on examples from nature, frequency science, and lived experience, they examine what it means to lead from the inside-out, why presence is more powerful than personality, and how leadership shifts when we stop managing our minds and start tuning into a deeper field of intelligence.

Listen in to explore and unravel the deeper intelligence of frequency, presence, and felt experience.

This episode covers:

The Myth of Mental Effort: Why even brilliant, well-intentioned leaders feel trapped in a system of grind — and what opens up when we stop playing that game.

From Thinking to Feeling to Sensing: How most of what we call “feeling” is actually thought — and how to recalibrate to the real, felt experience beneath it.

Frequency & Flow: You’re not “low energy,” you’re just misaligned. The power of vibrational awareness and coherence in leadership.

Language Gets in the Way: When describing falls short, sensing takes over. Why flow, frequency, and state can’t be fully explained — but they can be known.

Nature as a Teacher: What horses, babies, and “cutting the tension in the room” show us about energetic leadership.

Leadership as State, Not Strategy: Your presence is doing the work. How your inner aperture influences everything around you.

We Are Not Broken — Just Desensitised: You don’t need fixing, you just need remembering. Reconnection, not self-improvement, is the path.

From Me to We: Why legacy isn't about doing more — it’s about being differently. The shift from personal success to embodied impact.

 

🔎 For Listeners Who:

  • Feel the weight of responsibility, but suspect there’s another way

  • Want to access their best-day leadership more consistently

  • Sense the limitations of conventional mindset tools

  • Are curious about how presence and frequency influence business, relationships, and wellbeing

  • Are ready to go beyond the conceptual and into direct experience

This episode is a invitation to stop efforting and start sensing. If you’re curious about what it means to live, lead, and create from an entirely different paradigm... this one’s for you.

 

🧭 Mentioned in the Episode:

  • Energy Fields & The Heart’s Intelligence: Why the heart’s magnetism matters more than the brain’s charge

  • Expanded vs Contracted Aperture: A Quality of Mind lens for understanding state and clarity

  • Cold Showers, Grounding & Nature: Simple ways to sense the raw intelligence of presence

  • Human Doings vs Human Beings: Why we’ve forgotten how to feel — and how to get it back

  • The Field is Always Working: But are we available to receive?

  • Feeling as Feedback: Using sensation as a gentle, impersonal indicator of aperture

✉️ Connect and Learn More:

You can connect with Carolina via Linkedin  and her website here

 

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Life as Feedback: How Desire and Relationship Reveal the Self27 May 202501:07:57
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''Before Psychology'' - the Secret Source' that exponentially increases the peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation. 🧭 Episode Summary:

In this expansive and exploratory conversation, Piers joins Dr Amy Johnson on the Changeable Podcast show for a deep dive into the lived reality of the Quality of Mind and Before Psychology understanding. Showing how through every day life relationships, desires, discomforts, and even minor eye-roll moments—functions as a mirror showing us where self identity is still subtly hiding.

The episode explores how our desires and reactions are not random or personal but invitations to notice where we are still believing in a separate self. 

  • Life is a Mirror: Everything—especially your desires, discomforts, and relationships—acts as a mirror showing where identity is still subtly hiding.

  • Desire is Not the Problem: Desire becomes a compass. Clean wants flow naturally; unclean ones reveal where the self is trying to prop itself up.

  • Feeling vs Thinking: Much of what we call “feeling” is actually conceptualisation. Real transformation begins when we stop analysing and start sensing.

  • Real but Never True: All experience is real but not objectively true. When seen from this lens, experience becomes less personal and more revealing.

  • Subtlety is the New Frontier: As our aperture widens, we become more attuned to the micro-resistances and subtle patterns where identity still hides.

  • There Is No Separate Self: The shift isn’t in fixing yourself—it’s in seeing that what you think you are never existed in the way it seemed.

  • Practical Non-Duality: These insights aren’t just philosophical—they profoundly shift parenting, working, relating, and even cooking dinner.

  • The System Learns Naturally: You don’t have to figure this out. When you're no longer distracted, the system shows you exactly what you need to see.

🔎 For Listeners Who:
  • Sense there's more to life but are tired of trying to fix themselves to find it
  • Feel stuck in loops of self-improvement or subtle identity work
  • Want to bring more freedom, insight and presence to work, leadership, parenting, or any aspect of daily life
  • Are curious about non-duality and want to explore it in grounded, relatable ways
  • Feel stuck in loops of self-improvement or subtle identity work
  • Want to bring more freedom, insight and presence to parenting, work or daily life
  • Are noticing the limits of conceptual thinking and are ready to live more from the raw aliveness of the present
🧭 Mentioned in the Episode:
  • Silent Retreats: As a direct pointer to the parts of ourselves we habitually distract from

  • The Mirror Metaphor: A recurring theme—how life reflects our inner landscape back to us

  • “Clean” vs “Unclean” Desires: A practical tool for checking where we’re coming from

  • Parenting Examples: Real-life stories about identity, validation, and subtle control

  • Direct Inquiry: Practices like “Which ‘I’ is asking?” and “Can I find the one who is upset?”

  • The ‘Isness’ of Experience: A term used to describe the raw, pre-conceptual nature of life

  • The System’s Learning Extravaganza: Piers’ phrase for how insight unfolds naturally

  • Telepathy Tapes Podcast: Referenced as an example of unfiltered sensing without self-identification

  • Cold Showers as Practice: A visceral pointer to raw sensation vs conceptualised feeling

✉️ Connect and Learn More
  • You can find out more about Amy and her work here
  • Amy's most recent Book 'Just a Thought' (aka That's Just What Minds Do :) purchase and get a free chapter here 
  • A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more
  • TASTE THE MANGO  YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
  • Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
  • Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
  • For a more in depth looking into the Before Psychology nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind listen here  or here
  • Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind 
  • Check out our other podcast episodes, a curated list here
  • Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and post

 

 

Beyond Coping: Why Trying to Feel Better Keeps You Stuck22 Apr 202500:54:50
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''Before Psychology'' - the Secret Source' that exponentially increases the peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation.     🧭 Episode Summary:

What if everything we’ve been taught about resilience and healing is upside down?

Piers chats with leadership coach and former lawyer Bill Giruzzi about the hidden architecture behind healing, resilience, and our capacity for wellbeing. They explore how society’s obsession with avoiding discomfort is not only unhelpful — it’s quietly costing us our aliveness, potential, and freedom.

Through Bill’s deeply personal story of debilitating anxiety and the profound insights that emerged on the other side, we unpack:

  • Why “getting rid of symptoms” isn’t the same as true wellbeing

  • How trying to manage or avoid uncomfortable feelings can keep us stuck

  • The real shift that dissolves suffering at its source (and why it’s not what you think)

  • Why the system is already built to heal — if we stop interfering

  • The modern misunderstanding of resilience in business and leadership

  • How our resistance to discomfort is often driven by a case of mistaken identity

This episode challenges the conventional view of performance, healing, and leadership — and invites a deeper, more liberating understanding of the mind that’s surprisingly simple, yet profoundly transformative.

💡 Key Takeaways:
  • The problem isn’t the feeling — it’s the resistance to it.

  • There’s nothing wrong with you. You’re not broken. You’re just believing something untrue.

  • True resilience comes not from building a thicker skin, but from seeing there’s nothing you need protection from.

  • Your wellbeing isn’t something you earn — it’s something you uncover.

🔎 For Listeners Who:
  • Are leaders, entrepreneurs, or coaches feeling worn down by chronic coping

  • Sense there must be more to life and leadership than managing stress and ticking boxes

  • Want to understand how to access a deeper, more sustainable version of wellbeing and freedom

  • Are open to looking in a direction that challenges everything they thought they knew about the mind

🧭 Mentioned in the Episode:
  • The myth of "fixing" yourself

  • Flow state, self-identification, and the illusion of control

  • Cold showers, toddlers, and the surprising route to emotional freedom

✉️ Connect and Learn More

📩 Email Bill 📘 Bill's Book A Life Worth Living (Bill notes this reflects an earlier stage of his understanding)

  • A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more
  • TASTE THE MANGO  YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
  • Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
  • Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
  • For a more in depth looking into the Before Psychology nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind listen here  or here
  • Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind 
  • Check out our other podcast episodes, a curated list here
  • Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and post
A Snippet - Ep18 What Could Make a Difference to Everything in the World?31 Mar 202500:03:38

From the QUALITY OF MIND Podcast

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

 

Ep 18:  'What Could Make a Difference to Everything in the World?'

A 3 min snippet from the episode ''Unlocking Human Evolution: The Potential AI Revolution in Coaching with Katrijn Van Oudheudsen 

Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore 'Before Psychology'  - What is that, and does it help? Listen here

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

 

Curious - want to know more?

  • Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
  • Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
  • For a more in depth looking into the Before Psychology nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind listen here  or here
  • Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
  • Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts
00:24 The Impact of Self-Identification 01:11 Understanding Awakening 01:34 The Nature of Resistance 02:30 The Concept of 'Isness' 03:13 Living Without Self-Identification
Unlocking Human Evolution: The Potential AI Revolution in Coaching25 Mar 202500:20:28
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''Before Psychology''- the Secret Source' that exponentially increases the peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation.   In this episode, Piers discusses with show regular and fellow Quality of Mind collaborator Katrijn Van Oudheudsen  the transformative potential of AI in enhancing human productivity, peace, and potential. How AI can revolutionise coaching, particularly in Direct Inquiry, making it a powerful tool for understanding the concept of 'no self.'   The episode examines the potential of AI to democratize and accelerate the process of self-realization, offering unprecedented access to personal growth and collective harmony.   Key Discussion Takeaways
  • AI could be better than humans at coaching and awakening self-realisation
  • The illusion of the separate self is the root of suffering—AI helps break it down
  • AI coaching will become self-adjusting, engaging, and widely accessible
  • The transformation AI enables is not just personal—it has global implications
  Key Chapters include:   00:49 Exploring AI's Potential in Coaching 02:49 Challenges and Opportunities of AI Coaching 05:03 AI & Direct Inquiry: A Perfect Match 07:10 Why Direct Inquiry Matters for Humanity 10:54 AI's Role in Awakening and Self-Realisation 11.10 The Evolution of Inquiry: From Gurus to AI 14:20 AI as the Ultimate Mirror for Self-Realisation 17:50 - AI’s Future in Transformational Coaching 20:00- Final Thoughts  

Curious - want to know more?

  • You can find out more about Katrijn here  and on her website here 
  • A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more
  • TASTE THE MANGO  YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
  • Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
  • Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
  • For a more in depth looking into the Before Psychology nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind listen here  or here
  • Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind 
  • Check out our other podcast episodes, a curated list here
  • Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and post
   
A Snippet - Ep17: Going Beyond Sales Goals: Unconditional Freedom05 Mar 202500:04:01

From the QUALITY OF MIND Podcast

Part of our 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

 

Ep 17:  Going Beyond Sales Goals: Unconditional Freedom

A 3 min snippet from the episode ''From Selling to Serving:  The Power of Going Beyond Self'' with Sales Coach Nick Hall

Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore 'Before Psychology'  - What is that, and does it help? Listen here

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

00:00 Selling vs. Serving 00:23 Challenges in a Sales Culture 01:22 Secrets to Truly Serving in Sales 02:19 Finding Unconditional Freedom in Sales  03:38 Realising Inner Strength  

Curious - want to know more?

  • Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
  • Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
  • For a more in depth looking into the Before Psychology nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind listen here  or here
  • Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
  • Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

 

From Selling to Serving: The Power of Going Beyond Self13 Feb 202501:04:10
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.

Unlocking Sales Success: The Power of Going Before the Self

Welcome to the Quality of Mind Transforming Business Podcast Series! In this episode, we have a thought-provoking conversation with Nick, a former enterprise tech salesperson turned coach. Over the past 12-18 months, Nick has flourished in coaching, helping salespeople and leaders balance high performance with peace of mind.

We delve into the art of sales and business development, discussing how understanding the nature of the mind and self can profoundly impact sales skills. We also discover Nick's transformative journey from facing anxiety and panic attacks in a high-pressure sales environment to finding true fulfilment.

Tune in to explore topics like committed and intentional sales versus attached and invested approaches, and the invaluable distinction between serving and selling.

Learn how you can become a better salesperson by recognising the freedom to experience any sensation without self-attachment.

Discover how to handle any sensation or feeling and realize their true identity as awareness itself, rather than a separate self, leading to greater freedom and effectiveness in their professional and personal lives.

  • Nick’s Journey: From high-pressure enterprise tech sales to transformative coaching

  • The Shift from External to Internal Success: What happens when success on the outside doesn’t align with inner wellbeing?

  • Selling vs. Serving: How a shift in perspective changes the sales experience for both the seller and the client

  • Freedom in Sales: The distinction between being committed and intentional versus attached and invested

  • The Fear of Fear: Why the real issue isn’t external circumstances but our perception of them

  • High Performance & Flow States: Understanding what gets in the way of performing at your best

  • Navigating Targets & Pressure: How sales professionals can stay in service mode even within high-pressure environments

  • The Power of Inquiry: The role of direct experience in discovering what is truly real

 

Curious - want to know more?

  • You can find out more about Nick here  and on his website here 
  • A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more
  • TASTE THE MANGO  YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
  • Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
  • Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
  • Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
  • For a more in depth looking into the Before Psychology nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind listen here  or here
  • Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind 
  • Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and post
A Snippet - Ep16: Letting Go of Resistance...Is Not Compromising (2min)20 Jan 202500:01:54

From the QUALITY OF MIND Podcast

Part of our 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

 

Ep 16:  ''Letting Go of Resistance...Is Not Compromising"

A 2 min snippet from the episode ''The Business Advantage: The Secret Source to Flow & Ease with Emily Hawkins. Full Episode here 

Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore 'Before Psychology'  - What is that, and does it help? Listen here

 

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

 

Curious - want to know more?

  • Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
  • Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
  • For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
  • Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
  • Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts
The Business Advantage: The Secret Source to Flow & Ease01 Dec 202400:57:45
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.   In this episode of the Quality of Mind Transforming Business Podcast, host Piers speaks with Emily Hawkins about the fundamental bases of achieving authentic business success. Emily shares her journey from the corporate world, emphasising the transition from relying on credentials to harnessing a more innate intelligence and resourcefulness. The conversation delves deep into exploring the significance of understanding one's true self, not only beyond our conditioning societal expectations but even before psychology. They discuss how dropping resistance to 'what is' and realising our innate, expansive nature can lead to genuine flow, creativity, and business success - revealing the secret sauce to thriving not just in business, but in life in general.      03:45 The Secret Sauce to Success 10:03 The Case of Mistaken Identity 12:58 Flow and Authentic Leadership 15:50 The Essence of Self and Flow 26:34 Embracing Differences and Overcoming Resistance 30:44 Embracing Our Unique Gifts 31:46 Acceptance and Resistance 32:25 The Illusion of Self-Identification 40:51 The Concept of Aperture 44:58 The Secret Sauce of Self-Realization 46:00 Daily Practices for Awakening 52:38 Letting Go of Self-Identification  

Curious - want to know more?

  • You can find out more about Emily here her work on her website here 
  • A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more
  • TASTE THE MANGO  YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
  • Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
  • For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
  • Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind 
  • Check out our other podcast episodes, a curated list here
  • Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and post

 

A Snippet - Ep15 - The Unreliable Mind: Why You Can't Trust Your Thoughts31 Oct 202400:03:10

From the QUALITY OF MIND Podcast

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

 

Ep 15:  'The Unreliable Mind: Why You Can't Trust Your Thoughts''

A 3 min snippet from the episode ''The Potential Hiding in the Simplicity of Before Psychology. Exploring 'Extra-Ordinary' & Effortlessness'' with Dr Amy Johnson. Full Episode here 

Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore 'Before Psychology'  - What is that, and does it help? Listen here

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The Potential Hiding in the Simplicity of Before Psychology. Exploring 'Extra-Ordinary' & Effortlessness.03 Oct 202400:57:45
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.

In this exploration provoking episode, Piers Thurston and Dr. Amy Johnson explore the transformative concept of 'Before Psychology.' They discuss how recognising the base-level awareness that precedes thought and perception and feeling can unlock profound shifts in peace, performance, and human potential.

The conversation delves into the challenges of perceiving the ordinary, innate wisdom often overlooked. It emphasises detaching from any pre-learnt to experience a more direct and untainted inquiry into reality. The episode offers insights into achieving psychological freedom and fulfilment by realising an ever-present ordinariness rather than acquiring new techniques.  Debunking the myth of cause and effect

Amy is the author of 'The Little Book of Big Change', she is a regularly featured expert on The Steve Harvey Show, Oprah.com, as well as Fox News, The Wall Street Journal and Self magazine.

This is a relatively long episode, but it is all so very valuable - kick back and enjoy the exploration!  Please let us know what resonates

 

01:37 Exploring Coaching and Psychology

03:14 The Power of Subtle Understanding

04:25 Challenges in Communicating Abstract Concepts

05:31 The Role of Words and Understanding

07:46 Direct Inquiry and Self-Realization

13:25 The Essence of Effortlessness and Ordinariness

23:02 Recognizing Thought and Self-Identification

33:37 The Journey to Subtractive Understanding

40:34 The Illusion of Free Will

42:36 Questioning Cause and Effect

47:06 The Unreliable Mind

58:33 Practical Tips for Awareness

01:10:The Joy of Exploration

 

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  • You can find out more about Amy and her work here Amy's most recent Book 'Just a Thought' (aka That's Just What Minds Do :) purchase and get a free chapter here 
  • A previous episode with Amy where we discuss why we both evoled to  up pointing our clients in this direction is here
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How Overthinking Takes Over and How to Reclaim Peace04 Sep 202400:50:18

This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''Before Psychology''- the Secret Source that exponentially increases the peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation.

The Self and Overthinking:

In this episode of the Quality of Mind Transforming Business podcast, host Piers chats with Andrew Sewell, a leadership and personal coach, and author of 'The Overthinker’s Guide to Life.'

Andrew shares his journey from scriptwriting and advertising to coaching. The conversation delves into the pervasive issue of overthinking, its roots in the modern emphasis on the self, and how our historical and societal constructs have exaggerated our sense of individual separateness.

They explore transformative insights into recognizing the fundamental oneness of existence, drawing from concepts in various spiritual traditions.

Through direct inquiry into the nature of thought, Andrew and Piers offer listeners practical wisdom on how to unhook from habitual thinking and experience a more relaxed and connected way of being.

00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest

00:44 Andrew Sewell's Background and Career Transition

02:46 The Concept of Overthinking

05:32 The Role of Thinking in Modern Life

08:18 Exploring Self-Referential Thinking

12:11 The Nature of Thought and Self

22:55 Direct Inquiry and Awareness

28:32 The Illusion of Self and Thought

30:04 Experiencing Flow and Losing the Self

32:38 The Rise of Overthinking in Modern Society

33:08 The Deification of the Self

35:41 The Impact of Advertising and Social Media

36:46 Indigenous Perspectives on Self and Nature

38:03 The Concept of Individuation vs. Separation

40:31 The Evolutionary Advantage of the Separate Self

46:30 Practical Steps to Reduce Overthinking

48:33 Final Thoughts and Reflections

 

Curious - want to know more?

  • You can find out more about Andrew on Linkedin and his website  here
  • A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more
  • TASTE THE MANGO  YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
  • Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
  • For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
  • Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind 
  • Check out our other podcast episodes, a curated list here
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  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts
People Who Annoy You! - Just the System Learning in a Different Way23 Jul 202400:42:01
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''Before Psychology''- the Secret Source that exponentially increases the peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation.   Unlocking Transformative Insights from Everyday Annoyances   In this episode of the Quality of Mind Transforming Business podcast, Piers and returning guest Kate delve into the profound lessons hidden within our everyday annoyances. Through engaging and relatable examples, the conversation reveals how our reactions to others can shine a light on deeper personal conditioning and programming. Discover how self-inquiry and identifying with awareness rather than the 'self' can lead to transformative shifts in perception, ultimately enhancing relationships and promoting a richer, more compassionate understanding of oneself and others. They also discuss the magic of the system and how we often miss the opportunity to see how others' actions are just learning experiences.

 

This Episode: 

00:00 Welcome and Introduction 

02:34 The Power of 'Before Psychology'

04:26 Understanding Annoyance and Judgment

07:27 Real-Life Examples of Judgment

17:42 The Concept of 'I' and Self-Inquiry

22:29 Exploring the Concept of 'I'

23:56 Understanding Annoyance and Self-Identification

26:03 The Intelligent Design of Annoyance

28:34 Seeing Through Misidentification

33:05 Leaning into Discomfort for Growth

36:32 Curiousity and Compassion in Relationships

 

Curious - want to know more?

  • You can find out more about Kate and her website
  • A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more
  • TASTE THE MANGO Piers and  Katrijn's YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
  • Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
  • For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
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  • Check out our other podcast episodes, a curated list here
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  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts
A Snippet - Ep14: Flow State - Where Are We Going Wrong?05 Jul 202400:03:07

From the QUALITY OF MIND Podcast

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

 

Ep 14:  ''Flow State - Where Are We Going Wrong?

 

Listen to the full episode here 

 

Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore 'Before Psychology'  - What is that, and does it help? 

 

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Flow State - Where Are We Going Wrong?25 Jun 202400:50:13
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''Before Psychology''- the Secret Source that exponentially increases the peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation.   This episode  dives deep into the concept of 'flow' with executive coach Tim Downes. Piers and Tim discuss the innate human potential to experience flow, often misunderstood as a state that requires specific activities or external validations. They examine how recognising and inquiring into the nature of our true awareness—not our conditioned, separate self—can lead to a more consistent, effortless state of ease and flow in daily life. Key concepts such as mindfulness, the illusion of self, and the universal accessibility of flow without external aids are explored. The conversation covers:
  • Understanding Flow
  • Barriers to Flow
  • The Role of Self in Flow
  • Are There Phases to Flow?
  • Practical Insights on Achieving Flow
  • Summary: The Myths About Flow
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  • You can find out more about Tim on LinkedIn here and his website True Results
  • A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more 
  • TASTE THE MANGO Piers and  Katrijn's YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
  • A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more 
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QUESTION: ''What is the difference between ’Quality of Mind’ and Spirituality?''14 Jun 202400:03:13

From the QUALITY OF MIND Podcast

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

 

"Is Quality of Mind Different to Spirituality’’

 

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Unlocking the Illusion: How Seeing No Self Transforms Your Life10 Jun 202400:56:32
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''Before Psychology''- the Secret Source' that exponentially increases the peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation.   In this episode, Piers discusses with show regular and fellow Quality of Mind collaborator Katrijn Van Oudheudsen  her latest book, 'Seeing No Self' part of her transformative trilogy on non-duality and the nature of the mind. The episode discusses the concept of non-duality, the illusion of the self, and how understanding these ideas can lead to profound changes in leadership, productivity, and personal well-being.    Listeners can expect insights into the practical applications of these seeming just philosophical ideas and how they challenge conventional thinking in personal development and human potential.     03:15 Exploring Non-Duality: The Core Concept 04:49 Understanding Flow State and Connection 09:30 The Trilogy: An Overview of the 3 Books 12:19 The Power of Direct Experience 15:54 Navigating the Books: Where to Start? 20:53 The Importance of Non-Duality in Personal Development 25:08 Direct Inquiry: The Mechanism Explained 29:54 Exploring the Concept of Self 31:48 Guiding the Mind Through Inquiry 33:01 The Duality of Non-Duality 34:39 Making Non-Duality Accessible 35:53 The Challenge of Describing Non-Duality 37:30 Implications of Non-Duality in Life 39:13 What book is next... 41:06 The Future of Non-Duality Literature   Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

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  • You can find out more about Katrijn on LinkedIn here and her website and great books here
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  • For our previous episodes with Katrijn; Leadership or Free Will & Change  
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A Snippet Ep13: Before Psychology: What Do You Actually Explore? The Secret Source to Human Potential -01 May 202400:06:38

From the QUALITY OF MIND Podcast

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

 

Ep 13:  ''Before Psychology: What Do You Actually Explore?''

 

Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore 'Before Psychology'  - What is that, and does it help? 

 

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Discover the 'secret source' to structure, discipline and success - A conversation with Dre Baldwin15 Apr 202400:47:51

This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''Before Psychology''- the Secret Source' that exponentially increases the peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation.

This episode with Dre Baldwin, a former professional basketball player turned expert in personal and professional development. Dre is a highly prolific expert content producer on the subject of 'working on your game'. This conversation goes 'upstream' to what Dre usually shares as the discussion explores what is behind the creation of principles, structures and discipline needed to achieve in life. 

The importance of realising one's true identity as awareness itself, rather than the separate self, to attain psychological freedom and flow. 

This episode covers:

  • The secret sauce to discipline, structure and results
  • Our innocent attempts to 'reverse engineer' success.
  • The power of realisation
  • The big mistake of the modern world
  • The illusion of control and agency .
  • What you chase runs away.
  • Chasing feelings and fulfilment - Seeking versus abundance.

To find out more about Dre Baldwin 

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A Snippet Ep12: "The Biggest Superpower for Human Potential’’ (4min)15 Apr 202400:04:25

Part of our 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

Ep12:  "The Biggest Superpower for Human Potential''

An excerpt from a conversation with personal growth expert Dre Baldwin

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      This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''Before Psychology''- the Secret Source' that exponentially increases the peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation.
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A Snippet - Ep11: ''What do we mean by Awakening?''18 Mar 202400:01:55

Part of our 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

Ep11:  "What is awakening?''

An excerpt from a conversation with Helen Amery on the episode ''Many Journeys Pointing to One Realisation - Why Are There Are So Many Different Approaches to Transformation & Human''

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Many Journeys Pointing to One Realisation - Why Are There Are So Many Different Approaches to Transformation & Human Potential01 Mar 202400:58:10
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''before psychology'' - that exponentially increases the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.

Many Journeys Pointing to One Realisation - Why Are There Are So Many Different Approaches to Transformation & Human Potential?

 

This episode is a conversation with show regular Helen Amery, a fellow coach of the understanding behind Quality of Mind. We describe  four doorways for transformation – psychological, emotional, physical, and spiritual (direct and indirect)  The discussion further explores the relationship between 'awakening' and 'enlightenment', viewing the former as grasping one's truest essence, and the latter denoting the continuous detangling of the human psychological condition after awakening. Whereas there are many approaches to transformation and human development there are also some we wouldn't recommend as much as others...

 

The discussion covers:

  • The Limitations of Traditional Psychology and the Search for Something More
  • The Awakening: Discovering the Non-Dual Landscape
  • Why Are There Such a Diverse Range of Approaches in Personal and Professional Development
  • The Common Goal of All Approaches: Uncovering the True Self
  • Disentangling the Human Experience
  • The Role of Awakening in the Enlightenment Process
  • Exploring Different Doorways to Enlightenment
  • The Intersection of Emotion and Physicality - The Body as a Signal for Attention
  • The Importance of Embracing the Full Gamut of Human Experience
  • The Cyclical Nature of the Journey of Awakening and Enlightenment
  • What We Wouldn't Recommend.....

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  • To find out about Helen’s work her Wild Fig Community, private sessions and free resources see wildfigsolutions.co.uk. And for everything relating to The Complete Book of Awakening on Thoughtful Raven
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  • If you want to know more about 'becoming awake' check out our new 𝗗𝗜𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗫𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗟𝗙 𝗜𝗡𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗥𝗬 programme, which is a simple guide you to experience it direct for you.  
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Seeing Through Solidity & Limitation - Transformational Coaching08 Feb 202401:12:53
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''before psychology'' - that exponentially increases the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.

In this episode, Piers chats with corporate coach Dominic Scaffidi. Dominic and Piers did three episodes together back in 2020 exploring 'What is behind the magic of transformational coaching' and now they get back together to see what has been evolving in their own groundings and work.

This episode explores what is truly transformative about coaching from this understanding of Before Psychology and Quality of Mind. It is a deep and sometimes technical conversation about the nature of consciousness, self-limitation, and the essence of being.

They explore the idea of achieving versus allowing, noting that individuals can only experience the expansive nature of their being by dropping their resistance. They discuss how people often look for solutions outside themselves, forgetting that their real identity is infinite. The conversation also includes examples from business to illustrate their points effectively.

This Episode Covers:

  • The only challenge we ever have in business is our own mind
  • The appearance of solidity and limitation. There is nothing solid really to be dealing with
  • A simple business example of how we innocently look in the wrong place
  • The confusion between how it appears success is created and what is actually going on 
  • The utilitarian usefulness of definitions
  • The desire for more to overcome the illusion of scarcity
  • The nuance between allowing and revealing
  • The limitlessness to what is available
  • Why people really come to coaching, what we are all seeking

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Waking Up the Education System to Pure Potential27 Dec 202301:04:17
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''before psychology'' - that exponentially increases the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.

In this episode of the Quality of Mind Transforming Business podcast, Sarah and Michelle from Pure Potential join the show to discuss their wonderful work in schools and education. They share their backgrounds and explain how they got involved in this field. Tune in to hear their insights on the impact of their work and the potential for transformation in the education sector.

In this episode we discuss:

  • The evolution of a personal understanding that underpins professional development
  • How to curate the learning experience as a exploration 
  • Making the soil fertile - not providing prescriptive solutions
  • Understanding the mechanics of the human experience leading to practical solutions 
  • Is there really a learner to learn, the awesome power - when we get out of the way
  • The intelligence of the system - The learning extravaganza
  • The joy of being human and curiousity
  • Hope and possibility in education reform

Curious - want to know more?

  • You can find out more about Pure Potential and their work here
  • And more about  Michelle and Sarah on LinkedIn
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A Snippet - Ep10: ”The Huge Case of Mistaken Identity’’ (5min)14 Nov 202300:05:12

From the QUALITY OF MIND Podcast

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

Ep 10:  "The Huge Case of Mistaken Identity’’

An excerpt from a conversation with Clare Dimond on the episode ''If We Don’t Have Free Will, What is the Point?''

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If We Don’t Have Free will - What is the Point? A conversation with Clare Dimond13 Nov 202300:47:44
This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''before psychology'' - that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.

In this episode, Piers chats with Clare Dimond, a wonderful return guest to the show, and this time the topic is about free will and what our reality in any moment is 'showing us', and the availability of the  'learning extravaganza' that is available as the human experience. Clare is a skilled teacher of the understanding behind Quality of Mind, and a prolific and gifted author. 

 

In this episode we discuss:

  • Not having free will
  • Our innocent normalised misunderstand on the concept of the "I".
  • The mental construct as illusion
  • How we can explore via Direct inquiry
  • What we mean by witness and the innocent mistake in what witnessing means .
  • Distinguishing between 'isness' and conditioning.
  • The role of our 'Individuated' perception
  • Maximising the learning extravaganza that is available as the human experience 
  • An example in the workplace with your boss's reactions and overreactions.
  • Once we fully embrace the self-identified mind and recognises essential nature, the system returns to a state of flow and dynamism

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Snippet - Ep9: ’’5 Things to Consider About Our Minds & Exploring Potential’’31 Oct 202300:06:00

From the QUALITY OF MIND Podcast

 

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

 

Ep9: ' "5 Things to Consider About Our Minds & Exploring Potential’’

An excerpt from an interview on the Limitless Lives podcast: A conversation with Nilesh Patel

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What is a Good Life?06 Oct 202300:57:28

This podcast series explores the 'before psychology' game-changing understanding of the human mind that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.

This episode is taken from the podcast series What is a Good Life? where Mark McCartney is on a mission to explore the answer to that wonderful question. He ha already interviewed 150+ people, and now asks some excellent questions about the Before Psychology approach and Quality of Mind.  If you’re frustrated with your personal development endeavours or you find yourself clinging too tightly to your self-identity, at the cost of more fully connecting with others and life itself, this episode offers plenty of food for thought. 

Our discussion covers:

  • Piers takes us on his journey, from exploring counselling, NLP, and other modalities to direct path non-duality. 
  • We discuss the challenges often faced in personal development rooted in self-identification, breaking free from our addiction to focussing on our psychology, transcending the confines of the mind while fully embracing our emotions
  • How ultimately it about revealing a sense ease that can be experienced in life when we let go of our attachment to the separate self.
  • We discuss and explore the 'oneness' that you've perhaps long suspected, but resisted embracing, that can have a profound effect on how you perceive life.

Curious - want to know more?

  • Find out more about What is a Good Life project and subscribe to Mark's podcast here
  • You can find out more about Mark on LinkedIn here 
  • Find out more about Quality of Mind
  • If you want to experience more check out our new 𝗗𝗜𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗫𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗟𝗙 𝗜𝗡𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗥𝗬 programme, which is a simple guide you to experience it direct for you.  
  • Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
  • Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts
No Trade Off Needed - Achievement AND Contentment: What the Corporate World Is Still Missing Out On...13 Sep 202300:54:32

This podcast series explores the 'before psychology' game-changing understanding of the human mind that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.

This episode we talk to Rick Cotgreave. Rick has 12 years experience in corporate team and executive development previous to that he worked in the arena of elite sport. Rick has come to see what really makes the difference in human development and what is missing in many corporate programmes currently.

Our discussion covers:

  • Trapped in the pursuit of success - the apparent contradiction between betterment and contentment 
  • What is before psychology?
  • Resilience and separateness
  • The role of flow at work, and how we are missing joy and play in the workplace
  • Pressing pause and intellectual humility. - Getting curious about self-inquiry
  • Why is this understanding not more mainstream in business?

Curious - want to know more?

Exploring Beyond the Illusion - The New Book22 Aug 202300:52:54

This podcast series explores the 'before psychology' game-changing understanding of the human mind that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.

This episode we talk to regular contributor and friend of the show Katrijn Van Oudheusden on the day her new book is launched - Beyond Illusion: Exploring the Six Illusions that Cause Our Mistaken Belief in a Separate Self.' This is Katrijn's second book, and it lays down the foundation to exploring the illusion we are all innocently hoodwinked by - that we are a separate self. This book pieces together with insights from neuroscience and philosophy evidence that both directly and indirectly points us to recognise the true nature of what we are, and consciousness as the fabric of reality itself.

 

Our discussion covers:

- How come the second book is really the first book - foundations .v. implications

- How the book is aimed at those people with an inkling there must be a different way seeing the world and operating

- The relevance in today's world of need to point to something to 'keep the conceptual mind happy' before people will fall awake to something more 'spiritual'

- A brief explanation of the 6 illusions - and how they progress from most accessible to recognise to more hidden and harder to realise

- The relevance of chapter 7 - introducing the importance step of actual inquiring into this directly and for yourself

- What could happen if you read this book - the start of your journey

 

Curious - want to know more?

  • Buy the book here
  • You can find out more about Katrijn on LinkedIn here and her website  here
  • Find out more about Quality of Mind
  • If you want to experience more check out Piers and Katrijn's  new 𝗗𝗜𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗫𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗟𝗙 𝗜𝗡𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗥𝗬 programme, which is a simple guide you to experience it direct for you.  
  • Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
  • Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts
A Snippet- Ep8: ’How did I get here? Brief Overview of the path to Before Psychology08 Aug 202300:05:55

From the QUALITY OF MIND Podcast

 

Part of our 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'  -

 

Ep8: ''How did I get here? Brief Overview of the path to Before Psychology"

 

Piers Thurston - Founder of Quality of Mind, describes his own path of coming to see that Before Psychology is the most important leverage point for us to have more performance, peace and potential 

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

 

Curious - want to know more?

  • Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
  • Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
  • For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
  • Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
  • Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

 

Mark Lund - President of McCann World Group UK and Europe, talks about the benefits and Nature of Quality of Mind

’’Grounding Breaking’’ What a future focused marketer heard about Quality of Mind...02 Jun 202300:33:50

This podcast series explores the 'before psychology' game-changing understanding of the human mind that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.

This episode is taken from an interview on the Future Fuzz podcast. Justin Campbell is a digital marketing expert who educates and inspires people on the best way to stay relevant and futureproof on their marketing and e-commerce campaigns . The episode serves as useful relevant introduction to Quality of Mind, as Justin had listened to one episode from the QoM podcast, and thought it was fascinating and wanted to know more...

 

The discussion covers:

- Do we loose connection compared to when we were babies?

- How the appearance that we are a separate limited self arises and causes our suffering

- How we are all the same, but that doesn't mean we have to condone all behaviours 

- How to use feelings to our advantage  -what is going on?

- What does this understanding mean for contemporary societal issues, like mental health or dementia 

- An example of how low Quality of Mind might turn up in a meeting at work

- What is the approach for Quality of Mind in businesses? Going from upstream 'before psychology' self inquiry, to day to day business relevance

- The most common comment people make - 'I wish I had seen this before' - how this understanding gets better the more and more you see it! 

 

Curious - want to know more?

  • The Future Fuzz podcast that Justin has created.
  • Justin Campbell Linkedin Profile
  • Find out more about Quality of Mind   
  • If you want to know more about 'becoming awake' check out our new 𝗗𝗜𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗫𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗟𝗙 𝗜𝗡𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗥𝗬 programme, which is a simple guide you to experience it direct for you.  
  • Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
  • Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

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What is available? Infinite creativity, leadership and running as an elephant07 May 202300:44:44

This podcast series explores the 'before psychology' game-changing understanding of the human mind that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.

This episode is a conversation with Craig Wilmann, a business leader and content creator, who experienced a transformative shift in his understanding of the mind. He shares his journey and the benefits he now enjoys in all aspects of work and life. 

The discussion covers:

- The difference this understanding can make for Leadership

- How Craig first experience non duality during a burnout episode 

- What is it that we are pointing to?  How does it feel?  What is behind the personal mind?

- The simple yet profound nature of just being in life and sensing it, without the narrative of being a self.

- The inspiration, creativity and confidence to create and publish a short story every week for a year! 

-  The relevance for the workplace; contrived versus emergent leadership

- How this understanding helps any area of life and work, including running marathons dress as an elephant😁

 

Curious - want to know more?

  • The highly recommended Meaningless Problems podcast that Craig has created. Subscribe now wherever you get your podcasts to help him hit his charitable goal. Note: Craig's writing pseudonym is Doe Wilmann 
  • The Leaders Council  that Craig is Executive Director of. His Linkedin Profile
  • Find out more about Quality of Mind   
  • If you want to know more about 'becoming awake' check out our new 𝗗𝗜𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗫𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗟𝗙 𝗜𝗡𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗥𝗬 programme, which is a simple guide you to experience it direct for you.  
  • Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
  • Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

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Do we need to be ’awake’ to have an ’enlightened’ life? What do those words even mean?13 Apr 202301:01:14

This podcast series explores the 'before psychology' game-changing understanding of the human mind that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.

This episode is a conversation with Helen Amery, a fellow coach of the understanding behind Quality of Mind, who poses an excellent exploration, the difference between being 'awake' and having an 'enlightened life'.  Do we need to be 'awake' to have an enlightened life?  What do those words even mean? Explore with us on this episode...

The discussion covers:

  • What do we mean by those words?  A simple description
  • If we have a recognition of being 'awake' does that lead to an enlightened life?
  • What makes it hard to have an enlightened life without a recognition of 'our true nature'
  • Two more words - The difference between 'inquiry' and 'reflection'
  • How different coaching approaches start from different places; what truly makes the difference
  • Is this relevant for the workplace? What does it offer?
  • How psychological safety is an innocent reverse engineering due to a misunderstanding
  • Some of the indicators that you might be on the path to either....

Curious - want to know more?

  • During the show we mentioned Helen’s post that prompted this recording. Here’s that original post
  • To find out about Helen’s work go to her main website where you can find out about her Wild Fig Community, private sessions and free resources Awakening and Enlightenment | Coach and Guide (wildfigsolutions.co.uk)
  • And for everything relating to The Complete Book of Awakening, go to its publishing website, Thoughtful Raven. There you’ll find a link through to the courses and community for the book. Thoughtful Raven – The home of practical spirituality books.
  • Listen to Helen on her journey back in 2019 as she starts to have realisations about the principles behind Quality of Mind in this special behind the scenes 3 part mini series
  • Find out more about Quality of Mind   
  • If you want to know more about 'becoming awake' check out our new 𝗗𝗜𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗫𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗟𝗙 𝗜𝗡𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗥𝗬 programme, which is a simple guide you to experience it direct for you.  
  • Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
  • Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
  • Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts
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