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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Ori Rose, a producer, songwriter, artist, and vocal producer whose work spans pop, alternative, and the global K-pop world. Credits include 30 Seconds to Mars, MINHO, V of BTS, Tomorrow X Together, Hoodie Allen, MASN, Zach Hood, Crash Adams, and more. He also has his own artist project showing off his smooth voice and production. And somehow a massive Eagles fan and a Bills fan ended up in the same fantasy football league.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• "FRI(END)S" by V: how a song pitched years earlier came back around, reading the actual email where V said he liked it, the original concept that definitely wasn't going to fly, and letting your ego go so someone else can finish the record
• "Pretty Face" by Hoodie Allen: pitching the vocal down and speeding it back up, why the drums are one layer each, and learning the day one demo had all the magic (full deep dive on Patreon)

🎛️ We explore:

• Cold emailing everyone, including his mom's work friends, and how that turned into a publishing deal
• Why the music industry isn't a meritocracy, and why you need shamelessness and a little delusion to make it
• Why Zoom sessions might actually write better songs
• His first K-pop cut and getting asked for three separate harmonies on the hook
• Why vocal production is king in K-pop, plus his Waves Tune settings for leads
• Being the most insecure producer in the room
• Taste is everything, and why you should check yourself if you keep referring back to the brief
• Plug or Unplug: Metric Halo ChannelStrip 3, Acustica Ash, Baby Audio IHNY-2, Softube Tape, UAD Oxide Tape, CLA Vocals, Soundtheory Gullfoss

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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Pedro Calloni, a mixer whose work has been stopping him in his tracks lately. Every time a song hits different in a playlist, Pedro's name seems to be on it. Credits include Chris Stapleton, Bella Kaye, Stella Lefty, Ashe, Amy Allen, Nick Jonas, Joy Oladokun, Sasha Alex Sloan, LANY, GAYLE, Debbii Dawson, Alex Warren, Sadie Jean, and slimdan. In Justin's opinion, he's quietly becoming one of the top mixers to watch in the entire industry.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• "Fever Dream" by Alex Warren — the three-day Hail Mary call, taming a powerful voice without touching its tone, the parallel vocal weight channel, sidechained multiband on the instrument bus, and keeping the groove untouched
• "problem solver" by slimdan — keeping the vocal dry, the room hiss decision, that too-loud fuzz guitar, and going back in for the Medium Build version (full deep dive on Patreon)

🎛️ We explore:

• Growing up in Rio, the Berklee scholarship audition, and realizing he wasn't going to be a jazz drummer
• Landing at Village Studios and how end-of-session rough mixes made him a better mixer than he realized
• Getting Sasha Alex Sloan's debut album by saying yes to a tour he had no business taking
• His philosophy on restraint and why he's never lost a gig for not making enough moves
• The Cezanne analogy: finding the shape of a song and making sure it never gets lost
• Why plugins aren't necessarily getting better, and working fast without working in a rush
• Plug or Unplug: Kazrog True Iron, Goodhertz Megaverb, AudioPunks Great British Spring, Dangerous BAX EQ, Tube-Tech CL 1B, CLA Vocals

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🎧 Matt Huber on Mixing Julia Michaels, Valley & Why Editing Is Half the Job

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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Matt Huber, a multi Grammy nominated mix engineer based in LA and Nashville who has been putting out some of the best mixes of the past few years. Credits include Julia Michaels, Maren Morris, Alex Warren, Valley, Boys Like Girls, Underoath, Dylan Scott, Jamie Miller, Tove Lo, Maddie Zahm, Ingrid Andress, and more. He also gives out some of the best mix tips on Instagram, and Justin has definitely stolen a few already.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• "Scissors" by Julia Michaels ft. Maren Morris: making the 808 feel big without turning it into a hip hop record, word by word clip gain on the vocal, separating the lead from the harmonies, and layering a sample under a clipped kick
• "Like 1999" by Valley: rushed production, proximity effect, taming guitar scratches, and letting the 808 be the king of the low end (full deep dive on Patreon)

🎛️ We explore:

• The fateful "we like your rough mix better" moment that turned him from producer to mixer
• Why niching down made his career easier to understand
• His philosophy on sharing techniques and why mixing is not a zero sum game
• Keeping work hours and giving your freshest brain to the creative work
• The confidence to just hit send
• Taking big swings on a mix and when to ask permission first
• The saturation stacking trap and the gain match trick
• Top down mixing, cleaning tracks in solo, and why 50 percent of his mixing is actually editing
• Plug or Unplug: God Particle, Kirchhoff EQ, Trackspacer, Ozone 12, CLA Vocals

🔗 Follow & Listen:
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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Jason Strong -- a multi-platinum producer and songwriter who has quietly built one of the most impressive and genuinely global careers around. His work spans pop, alternative, and K-pop at the highest level, with credits across the US, South Korea, Japan, and beyond, including Tomorrow X Together, TWS, D.O., Jessica Baio, Sueco, Knox, Christian French, Jamie Miller, and more. Born in South Africa, trained at Berklee, and now based in LA, he's built a career on being deeply musical, endlessly adaptable, and always artist first.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• "Other Side" by Jessica Baio -- how a chorus concept got completely reshaped in the room, keeping the production simple to let her vocal lead, and the reverb and delay choices that gave it that ethereal feel
• "Treadmill" by Knox -- full deep dive on Patreon

🎛️ We explore:

• Growing up in South Africa, discovering Berklee through John Mayer, and the audition that got him there
• Moving to LA right after graduation and building a career through visa-dependent production work
• Breaking into the Korean and Japanese markets and what makes those sessions different
• His philosophy on co-producing, handing off records, and when to let go of an idea
• Ableton vs. Pro Tools workflow and his approach to vocal chains
• Plug or Unplug: Keyscape, Goodhertz Wow Control, Chandler Limited Germanium Compressor, Splice Instruments, bx_console SSL 4000 E, iZotope Neutron, CLA Vocals

🔗 Follow & Listen:
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Live drums. It might be the thing that scares the average producer even more than vocals. In this Producer Points Roundtable, Justin sits down with Scott Robinson, Sam Pura, and Jon Graber to talk about everything from mic placement and room selection to drum bus secrets, hybrid kits, and the eternal question: can listeners actually tell the difference?

• Scott Robinson (@greatscottcreates) -- Grammy-nominated mixer, producer, and songwriter. Credits include Demi Lovato, Bebe Rexha, Fall Out Boy, and Avril Lavigne.
• Sam Pura (@sampura) -- producer, engineer, and founder of The Panda Studios and Purafied Audio. Credits include Basement, The Story So Far, State Champs, Hundredth, and The Dangerous Summer.
• Jon Graber (@jgrabesmixes) -- LA-based recording and mix engineer with roots in punk and classical composition. From studios in New York to Capitol Records, built a career on capturing raw, honest performances.

🎛️ We cover:

• Where everyone lands on live vs. programmed drums in 2026
• Can listeners actually tell the difference -- and does it even matter?
• When a record genuinely needs a real kit and when it doesn't
• The hybrid approach: blending live and programmed so they feel like one kit
• Matching a live kick to an 808 so they don't fight each other
• Drum editing: how far is too far before you kill the feel?
• The drum bus: parallel compression, saturation, and making live drums cut through
• Craig Bauer's AutoAlign tip that came up in the conversation: instagram.com/p/CUaKmSxAeo2
• Indie Plugin Spotlight: I AM CHOIR by @amiaudio_official and CICO by @quaiko_
• Current events: Spotify AI Persona badges and Phoebe Bridgers' "Lost Weekend"

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Scott Robinson: @greatscottcreates
Jon Graber: @jgrabesmixes
Justin Gammella: @justin_gammella
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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Denis Kosiak -- a Grammy-nominated mixer, producer, and vocal producer whose work shows up consistently across some of the biggest records in pop. Credits include Khalid, Billie Eilish, Marshmello, benny blanco, Halsey, Tate McRae, Ed Sheeran, ZAYN, and more. What stands out is how consistently great the work is across different artists and genres. This man just makes good choices -- and he's one of the very few people Justin would ever fully trust to touch a vocal.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• "Look At Me" by All Day Project -- working with Korean pop artists remotely, the production approach, and navigating A&R notes
• "Don't Come Back" by Tate McRae -- how he got the gig, the vocal chain, handling a vocal that can be harsh if not done right, and the mix bus secrets behind one of her biggest records

🎛️ We explore:

• Growing up in Philly, moving to LA at 19, skateboarding to internships, and working his way up through Record Plant
• How running into Khalid at Record Plant led to working on his album six months later
• Shifting between mixer brain, producer brain, and vocal producer brain in the same session
• His philosophy on vocal production -- getting performances vs. fixing them, and knowing when to stop
• Vocal compression stacking, tuning speed, and why the capture matters more than the processing
• Plug or Unplug: oeksound Soothe2, FabFilter Pro-DS, Soundtoys Little AlterBoy, Wavesfactory Trackspacer, UADx Studer A800, CLA Vocals, real 1176

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Artists are writing way too much. Justin has been saying it for years. In this roundtable, he sits down with Ryan Marrone, Lucas Arens, and Sam SZND to finally dig into why it's happening, what it's doing to the people in the room, and what a healthier model actually looks like.

• Ryan Marrone (@ryanmarrone) -- producer and songwriter with credits spanning JP Saxe, Sabrina Carpenter, GAYLE, and Lauren Spencer Smith.
• Lucas Arens (@lucasarens) -- Nashville-based producer, songwriter, mixer, and multi-instrumentalist. Credits include Devon Again, Charli Adams, Brye, and emlyn, plus sync placements on Disney and Apple.
• Sam SZND (@samsznd) -- multi-platinum songwriter and recording artist whose credits include NCT Dream, NCT Wish, Katseye, NexZ, and 8TURN.

🎛️ We cover:

• The traditional model vs. now -- what actually changed and when
• Decision fatigue: how 200 songs makes it harder, not easier, to put anything out
• The toll on songwriters and producers who make incredible records that never come out
• Who's actually driving the write-more agenda -- the artist, the manager, or the A&R
• The live show problem: why artists not playing live is connected to writing too much
• Spurts vs. grinding -- what a healthy creative schedule actually looks like
• Current events: GEMA wins its lawsuit against Suno, and BTS boycotts the Grammys

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Lucas Arens: @lucasarens
Sam SZND: @samsznd
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🎧 Alex Bilowitz on Co-Writing BTS's "Butter," Raising a Family & Making Pop at the Highest Level

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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Alex Bilowitz — a songwriter, producer, and keys wizard whose credits span the entire spectrum of pop. He co-wrote "Butter" by BTS, a song that broke Billboard records, sales records, and Guinness records. He's gone on to work with Le Sserafim, Lil Wayne, Megan Thee Stallion, Keith Urban, Bebe Rexha, Jessie Murph, and more. And on top of all of it, he's one of the funniest, most naturally gifted musicians Justin has ever had the pleasure of knowing.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• "Butter" by BTS — the story behind the write, who was in the room, the synths, the lead, the bass, the counter-melody, and that synth solo
• "so unfair" by Sophia James — the piano sound, arrangement philosophy, switching from sampled to real drums, gang vocals, bass guitar, and the NY/modern Broadway energy running through the whole thing (full deep dive on Patreon)

🎛️ We explore:

• Growing up in New York, getting signed to Primary Wave early, and building his way into major pop rooms
• How "Butter" came together over WhatsApp with BTS in Seoul during the pandemic
• Balancing songwriter instincts with production chops and knowing when to play simply vs. show off
• Raising a family while navigating the unpredictability of a music career
• His keys-first approach to sessions and how he shapes piano and synth tones
• Plug or Unplug: Keyscape, Serum 2, UAD 1176 Rev A, Goodhertz Megaverb, Cradle The Prince, CLA Vocals, Kramer Tape

🔗 Follow & Listen:
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The number one question Justin gets — in DMs, in person, at mentoring events, from his aunt's cousin's brother-in-law's friend's kid — is "How do I make it in LA?" In this roundtable, he sits down with three producers and songwriters who figured it out the hard way to talk about what actually works, what nobody tells you, and what the grind really looks like from the inside.

• Kyle Reynolds (@kylereynoldsmusic) — platinum songwriter, producer, and artist with releases alongside Galantis, David Guetta, 5 Seconds of Summer, Marshmello, Stray Kids, Machine Gun Kelly, Travis Barker, and iann dior. Founder of Songdads.
• Tyler Thompson (@tylermeetsworld) — producer, mixer, and mastering engineer with 300+ credits. Works with GIRLHOUSE, Valerie Broussard, Lindsey Stirling, Salem Ilese, The Mowgli's, and The Band Perry. His band WILD has 50M+ streams and syncs on Pixar and Ted Lasso.
• Nate Flaks (@nateflaks) — songwriter and founder of Hitchhiker Sound. Credits include Transviolet, Khatumu, Lily Williams, and Hailey Knox. One half of pop duo Sleeping Lion and host of the Talking Lion podcast.

🎛️ We cover:

• How each guest actually got to LA — and the gap between the fantasy and the reality
• Networking the real way: relationships vs. transactions, and where the best connections actually happen
• Cold DMs and reach outs — what lands and what gets ignored
• Working with people at your level and why your peer group becomes your career
• Social media, Instagram profiles, and what actually moves the needle
• Writing hundreds of songs and the mindset shift from precious to prolific
• Word of mouth — what gets you talked about in rooms you're not in
• Current events: Spotify removes 75 million AI tracks, Apple Music raises prices, and Massachusetts moves to cap ticket resale with Noah Kahan's backing

🔗 Follow & Listen:
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Tyler Thompson: @tylermeetsworld
Nate Flaks: @nateflaks
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🎧 Charlie Hickey on Guitar Tones & Making Indie Records That Hit Different

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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Charlie Hickey — an artist, songwriter, and producer from Pasadena whose music hits you in the most honest, disarming way. His songwriting has always stood out — there's a softness and emotional clarity to it that feels completely effortless. And every time you hear one of his guitar tones, you end up pausing and going, okay, what exactly is happening there? He's quickly becoming one of the most interesting producers in the indie world.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• "My Heart Is a Bloodhound" by Sydney Ross Mitchell — guitar recording, baritone tone, drum samples, vocal chain, and the genius production move at the end
• "Tommy" by Beeson — acoustic guitar lo-fi tape vibe, banjo recording, late drum entrance, slide guitar, and hidden textures (full deep dive on Patreon)

🎛️ We explore:

• Growing up around music with songwriter parents, dropping out of college, and making his first EP in a friend's bedroom
• His label experience, what worked, and why paths diverged
• How he transitioned from artist to producer and started working with other artists
• Guitar tones, amp chains, pedals, and how he shapes emotional texture
• His approach to lo-fi vs. clean and knowing when a sound is right
• Plug or Unplug: Strymon Deco, FabFilter Saturn 2, Baby Audio Spaced Out, Nudistort, Devious Machines Infiltrator, CLA Vocals, RC-20 Retro Color

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🎧 The Big AI Episode w/ Louie Diller, PJ Frantz & Stephen Conley

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The AI episode. The roundtable Justin has been putting off long enough because he was afraid it would run for four hours. In this Producer Points Roundtable, Justin sits down with Louie Diller, PJ Frantz, and Stephen Conley to talk about where they actually stand on AI in music, what tools they're actually using, and what a fair AI music ecosystem even looks like.

• Louie Diller (@louieliveslaughsloves) — artist, songwriter, and producer behind HOLYCHILD. SONA advisory board member.
• PJ Frantz (@pj.frantz) — producer and songwriter whose LA Times piece "Spotify Needs to Start Labeling AI-Generated Music Before It's Too Late" sparked exactly the conversation it was supposed to.
• Stephen Conley (@stephenmconley) — gold-certified producer and songwriter. Credits include GAYLE, Dove Cameron, and Sofia Carson.

🎛️ We cover:

• Generative AI vs. AI-assisted tools — is that a meaningful distinction?
• The streaming flood: Suno generates 7 million songs per day
• PJ's LA Times piece and the transparency problem — should listeners have the right to know?
• The legal landscape: Sony vs. Suno, the Supreme Court ruling, and who's actually getting paid
• Voice cloning, identity, and what Taylor Swift and the Backstreet Boys are doing about it
• AI in the DAW: the tools that actually help vs. the ones that flatten the result
• Current events: Boris FX acquires iZotope, M.I.A. vs. Kid Cudi, and an indie musician suing Spotify

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Louie Diller: @louieliveslaughsloves
PJ Frantz: @pj.frantz
Stephen Conley: @stephenmconley
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Ehren Ebbage on Lizzy McAlpine, Corook & Making Records That Feel as Good as They Sound

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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Ehren Ebbage — the producer behind some of the most emotionally precise records in indie pop right now. Credits include Lizzy McAlpine, Corook, Myles Smith, Maddie Zahm, sombr, Jacob Collier, FINNEAS, and more. Every record he touches has a balance that's hard to put into words — clarity, real engineering precision, and genuine emotion, all working together without stepping on each other.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• "blankets" by Corook — how the song came together, bass sound, synths, the descending counter melody, vocal processing, and what stayed untouched
• "ceilings" by Lizzy McAlpine — simplicity as power, acoustic guitar choices, strings, vocal capture, and why the master feels so pushed in all the right ways

🎛️ We explore:

• Growing up in bands, assisting Joe Ciccarelli, and finding his voice through sync work
• Building long-term creative relationships with Lizzy McAlpine and Corook
• Balancing engineering precision with emotional instinct
• Vocal chain, mic choices, and why dry and raw usually wins
• Keys-first workflow and knowing when to stop adding
• Plug or Unplug: Goodhertz Vulf Compressor, Unfiltered Audio SILO, oeksound Spiff, Aberrant DSP SketchCassette II, Baby Audio TAIP, Moog Sub 37, CLA Vocals, SM7B

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🎧 The Demoitis Episode w/ Scott Robinson, Lucas Arens & Pedro Calloni -- The Sickness We All Have

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Demoitis. The dreaded word we all have a love-hate -- okay, mostly hate -- relationship with. Especially when we're not the ones with the sickness. In this roundtable, Justin sits down with three producers and mixers who've all been on both sides of it -- as the ones catching it and the ones trying to cure it in others.

• Scott Robinson (@greatscottcreates) -- Grammy-nominated mixer, producer, and songwriter. Credits include Demi Lovato, Bebe Rexha, Fall Out Boy, and Avril Lavigne.
• Lucas Arens (@lucasarens) -- Nashville-based producer, songwriter, mixer, and multi-instrumentalist. Credits include Devon Again, Charli Adams, Brye, and emlyn -- plus sync placements on Disney, Apple, and more.
• Pedro Calloni (@pedrocalloni) -- Mixer whose credits include Chris Stapleton, Amy Allen, Nick Jonas, Joy Oladokun, Sasha Alex Sloan, LANY, and GAYLE.

🎛️ We cover:

• What demoitis actually is -- and why it hits producers and mixers just as hard as artists
• War stories: sessions where demoitis almost derailed everything
• How to tell when YOU'RE the one with the sickness
• Navigating the conversation with an artist who's convinced the demo is better
• When the demo actually IS better -- and how to know the difference
• How to prevent it on the front end and break it once it's set in
• Indie Plugin Spotlight: HYPE by Teletone Audio and VOYAGER by VYNL Audio
• Current Events: Oliver Tree, Olivia Rodrigo's third album, and Grammy rule changes for 2027

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Scott Robinson: @greatscottcreates
Lucas Arens: @lucasarens
Pedro Calloni: @pedrocalloni
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🎧 Andrew Tufano on Producing Sabrina Sterling, Rosie Darling & Why Being a Player Makes You a Better Producer

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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Andrew Tufano — a producer, songwriter, and multi-instrumentalist whose musicianship and intention elevate every room he walks into. From Sabrina Sterling and Rosie Darling to Katelyn Tarver, John K, and more, Andrew brings a player-first approach to production that you can hear in every record he touches. He's one of those rare producers who can do it all — and somehow makes it feel effortless.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• "take a shot" by Sabrina Sterling — the initial sound, breakbeat choices, that pre-chorus melody, vocal chain, harmonies, and what he's most proud of in the production
• "catching a snowflake" by Rosie Darling — the challenge of writing a Christmas song, picking jingle bells, real vs. fake strings, layering, and balancing indie sensibility with holiday genre (full deep dive on Patreon)

🎛️ We explore:

• Growing up musical, learning guitar and piano, and how touring shaped his instincts as a producer
• The slow transition from session player to full producer — and why that path made him better
• Why being a skilled player gives you an edge in the studio that no plugin can replace
• How he builds trust with artists and adapts to different creative personalities
• Capturing emotion over perfection — his philosophy on performance and recording
• Plug or Unplug: Valhalla Delay, Goodhertz Wow Control, Kazrog KClip, UADx Studer A800, Distressor, CLA Vocals, Bricasti M7

🔗 Follow & Listen:
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🎧 Auto-Tune… WTF?! — The Bugs, the Workarounds, and the Alternatives

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Somewhere between Auto-Tune 8 and now, something broke. The clicks, the pops, the inconsistent tracking, the constant repackaging — producers are frustrated, and they're starting to look elsewhere. In this roundtable, Justin sits down with three producers who use pitch correction every day to talk about what's actually going wrong, what they're doing about it, and what they want from plugin companies like Antares.

• Andrew J. Gomez (@andrewj_gomez) — Nashville-based producer, mixer, and songwriter. Credits include Knox, John Harvie, and LOYALS.
• Lowen / Emily Kopp (@earthtolowen) — independent artist, songwriter, producer, and multi-instrumentalist. Syncs on HBO, Disney, and Hulu.
• Stephen Conley (@stephenmconley) — gold-certified producer, songwriter, and mixer. Credits include GAYLE and more.

🎛️ We cover:

• The real bugs: latency errors, clicks and pops, inconsistent tracking, and the iLok transition
• Workarounds that actually help — retune speed automation, algorithm switching, committing and printing
• Alternatives: Melodyne, MetaTune, Waves Tune, UAD Topline Vocal Tune, Cubase's built-in algorithm, and more
• Transparent vs. character tuning — does the tool even matter if the performance isn't there?
• Current events: Taylor Swift's "I Knew It, I Knew You" for Toy Story 5, and the AFM lawsuit against UMG and WMG over AI training data

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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Alexis Kesselman, aka Idarose — an artist, producer, and songwriter based in New York whose credits span pop, film, and K-pop. She co-wrote "Glimpse of Us" by Joji, a record that went number one globally. She wrote and produced "Death of Me" for Naomi Scott's character in Smile 2. And right now, her production on Bella Kay's "IloveitIloveitIloveit" is everywhere. Every time it comes up in a playlist, you feel it immediately — that intimacy, that restraint, that room sound. This is how she's doing it.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• "Death of Me" by Skye Riley (Naomi Scott) — writing for a character in a film, building the production, vocal chain, sidechain choices, and what she's most proud of in the record
• "IloveitIloveitIloveit" by Bella Kay — origin of the song, the recording technique behind that in-the-room intimacy, vocal layering, and why there are no drums (full deep dive on Patreon)

🎛️ We explore:

• Growing up in South Florida, studying film scoring at the University of Miami, and finding her way into pop songwriting
• Co-writing "Glimpse of Us" in 2019, then taking LSAT practice tests during the pandemic before the song came out and changed everything
• Signing to Warner/Chappell, moving to New York, and doing a year of musical theater writing at Berklee's NYC program
• Why New York works for her as a producer in a way it wouldn't if she were only a songwriter
• Her approach to vocal production, arrangement, and building sonic space
• Plug or Unplug: Output Portal, Weiss DS1-MK3, Keyscape, UADx Studer A800, Tube-Tech CL 1B, CLA Vocals, UAD 1176 Rev A

🔗 Follow & Listen:Idarose: @idarosemusicJustin Gammella: @justin_gammellaProducer Points: @producer_pointsTikTok: @producer.points🎧 Producer Points Playlist

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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Collin Pastore and Jake Finch — a Nashville-based producer-writer duo quietly behind some of the best-sounding indie and alternative records of the last few years. From boygenius and Lucy Dacus to Ashe, Julien Baker, and Suki Waterhouse, their productions share a rawness and honesty that feels live, human, and never overcooked. Two studios, one shared vision, and a philosophy built around capturing real performances.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• "Lost Time" by Lucy Dacus — vocal layering, dry mic choices, drum recording and processing, and the production decisions behind one of the most honest-sounding records in recent memory
• "I Wanna Love You (But I Don't)" by Ashe — main guitar, synths, real drums vs. samples, and the writing and production techniques that shape the track (full deep dive on Patreon)

🎛️ We explore:

• How Collin and Jake linked up at Berklee, landed in Nashville, and tricked Sony into letting them co-produce their first EP
• Their philosophy on raw-sounding records — minimal processing, unprecious mic choices, and letting performances breathe
• How they built two complementary studios and why bouncing between a live room and a dead mix room works in their favor
• Drum samples, compression, and why audio school got it wrong
• Mix bus approach, go-to plugins, and their vintage 414 vocal chain
• Plug or Unplug: UADx Sound City Studios, LA-2A, Waves R-Vox, Space Echo RE-201, AEA R88, UAD 1176 Rev A, and CLA Vocals

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🎧 Gian Stone on Vocal Production, "Stuck with U," and Making Pop at the Highest Level

🎙️ This is the free episode — the full conversation is available exclusively for Producer Pal subscribers on Patreon: patreon.com/producerpoints

In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Gian Stone — a Grammy-nominated producer, songwriter, and vocal producer whose sharp ears and instinctive taste have helped shape some of the biggest pop records of the last decade. From topping the Billboard Hot 100 Producer Chart in 2020 to crafting hits for Maroon 5, Justin Bieber, Ariana Grande, the Jonas Brothers, Dua Lipa, Selena Gomez, Meghan Trainor, Le Sserafim, and more, Gian has built a reputation as one of pop's most trusted and versatile creative voices.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• "Like It's Christmas" by Jonas Brothers — the origin of the track, making it more "Jonas Brothers-y," and how a piano demo became a guitar-driven holiday staple
• "Stuck with U" by Ariana Grande & Justin Bieber — how the song went from a session with Scooter to Ariana to Bieber in a week, and the production choices behind a #1 hit

🎛️ We explore:

• Gian's journey from drumming in NYC bands to sleeping on studio floors in LA to working at the highest level of pop
• How his partnership with producer Jason Evigan shaped his career
• His philosophy on vocal production — coaching artists, getting the best take, and knowing when less is more
• Balancing production, songwriting, and vocal production as equal crafts
• Gear and go-to tools: Neumann U87, SSL 4000 G+, Valhalla Vintage Verb, Omnisphere, and more
• Plug or Unplug: Apulsoft splitS, Goodhertz Lossy, CLA Vocals, and his plugin cheat code

🔗 Follow & Listen:Gian Stone: @gianstoneJustin Gammella: @justin_gammellaProducer Points: @producer_pointsTikTok: @producer.points🎧 Producer Points Playlist

🎙️ Season 3 of Producer Points starts May 20th — and this one's different.

Full episodes this season are exclusive to our Producer Pal community on Patreon. And we're not just talking episodes — Producer Pals get preset drops with real files and the philosophy behind them, AMA threads where you can ask Justin directly, extended cuts with the stuff that doesn't make the main edit, process breakdowns covering everything from vocal stacks to session organization, and early access to guest question submissions. It's the behind-the-curtain layer for people who are serious about making records.

We've been working hard behind the scenes, and we're bringing you a stacked lineup of guests, deep conversations, and something new: roundtables. Got a topic you want us to cover? Drop it in the comments.

Huge love to Nathan Rebello and Elijah Sheppard for helping make this happen. Make sure to check out their artist projects.

Season 3 drops May 20th. See you there.

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🎧 Roundtable: The Future of Indie Plugin Design with Purafied & Nudist Audio

There’s a new wave of plugin makers changing the landscape of modern music production. From boutique developers to full-fledged software houses, indie creators are building tools that rival the biggest names in the game — and often do it with more innovation, personality, and passion.

In this roundtable, Justin sits down with two of the most exciting independent developers shaping that movement:

• Sam from Purafied Audio — known for forward-thinking mixing and mastering tools used by pros worldwide.

• Caleb from Nudist Audio — a rising developer pushing creative boundaries with analog-inspired plugins that bring warmth, imperfection, and vibe.

🎛️ We explore:

• How indie plugin companies are competing with giants like Waves and UAD

• The art and business of pricing plugins fairly

• Oversampling, sound quality, and performance trade-offs

• AI’s role in the next wave of music production tools

• What it takes to turn a coding idea into a creative tool musicians love

💡 Plus: behind-the-scenes stories of what it’s really like building a plugin company from scratch — from sound design to customer feedback to surviving as a small business.

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🎧 Producer Points Playlist: Spotify
🎙️ Full Episodes: Spotify | Apple Podcasts

🎧 Jon Buscema on Building Devon Again’s Sound & Chasing What Inspires Him

In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Jon Buscema — a producer and songwriter whose sharp instincts and trend-leading style have helped shape the next wave of alt-pop. From his early days fronting KNGDAVD to now producing for Devon Again, UPSAHL, King Mala, Emei, and more, Jon has built a reputation for bold, left-of-center productions that push boundaries while staying rooted in taste.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• “Deep” by Devon Again — intimate yet playful production, acoustic guitar layering, vocal treatment, and ear-candy choices that define her sound

• “Cherry Cola” by Devon Again — groove, quirky sound design, guitar tones, and how he built the track’s playful punch

🎛️ We explore:

• How Jon transitioned from frontman to full-time producer

• Building creative trust with artists like Devon Again & UPSAHL

• Gear talk: guitars, drum sounds, and go-to plugins

• Why chasing inspiration (not trends) has fueled his career growth

• Advice for producers on trusting taste and taking creative risks

🔗 Follow & Listen:
Jon Buscema: @jonbuscema
Justin Gammella: @justin_gammella
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TikTok: @producer.points
🎧 Producer Points Playlist: Spotify
🎙️ Full Episodes: Spotify | Apple Podcasts

🎧 Gavin Chops on Live Drumming, Love Language & Running Pack Records

In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Gavin Chops — a drummer, DJ, artist, and entrepreneur whose versatility has made him one of the most dynamic forces in today’s music scene. From touring as a live drummer to DJing clubs, co-founding Pack Records & Pack Publishing, and launching the artist project Love Language, Gavin has built a career that bridges performance, artistry, and business.

He’s also currently leading Artist Relations at Vault.fm, a fast-rising music tech startup building new opportunities for creators.

🎶 Song deep dive:

• “Midnight” by Love Language ft. Holiday87 & JONES — the collaboration, production layers, and sonic choices that shaped the track

🎛️ We explore:

• Gavin’s journey from live drumming to DJing to artist/producer

• Building Pack Records & Pack Publishing from the ground up

• The evolution of Love Language and its collaborations

• Gear favorites: Moog Subsequent 37, Fender Jaguar, Strymon Timeline & more

• Why versatility is key to building a lasting career in music

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Gavin Chops: @gavinchops
Love Language: @lovelanguage.music
Pack Records: @pack.recs
Vault.fm: @vaultdotfm
Justin Gammella: @justin_gammella
Producer Points: @producer_points
TikTok: @producer.points
🎧 Producer Points Playlist: Spotify
🎙️ Full Episodes: Spotify | Apple Podcasts

🎧 How Andrew J. Gomez Made Guitars Slam for Knox & Drums Smack for John Harvie

In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Andrew J. Gomez — a producer, songwriter, and member of the band LOYALS whose work has been shaping the sound of modern alt-pop and rock. From gritty guitars to punchy drums, Andrew’s productions bring edge and immediacy to every record. His credits include Knox, John Harvie, Games We Play, girlfriends, Caroline Romano, Spencer Jordan, and more.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• “Bleach (On The Rocks)” by John Harvie — raw vocal grit, dynamic guitar tones, and blending real drums with trap elements

• “Lost Cause” by John Harvie — pocket-driven grooves, sonic shifts, and balancing emotion with big production moves

🎛️ We explore:

• How Andrew adapts his production to different artist identities

• Guitar layering, tones, and the art of making them slam

• Drum programming and mixing choices that cut through

• Gear and plugins from Neural DSP to Chase Bliss pedals

• The balance between producer life and band life with LOYALS

🔗 Follow & Listen:
Andrew J. Gomez: Link
Justin Gammella: @justin_gammella
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TikTok: @producer.points
🎧 Producer Points Playlist: Spotify
🎙️ Full Episodes: Spotify | Apple Podcasts

The Sync Episode! — Producer Points Roundtable on Licensing for Film, TV & Ads

Sync licensing has become one of the most powerful ways for artists, songwriters, and producers to get their music heard. A single placement on a hit show, movie trailer, or national ad campaign can change a career overnight — but breaking into that world isn’t easy.

In this roundtable, Justin brings together three guests with deep experience in sync to break down how it really works:

• Lowen (Emily Kopp) ( @earthtolowen ) — artist, songwriter, and producer with placements on HBO, Disney, and Hulu

• Jeremy Silver ( @iamjeremysilver ) — songwriter/producer with cuts for Christina Aguilera, Michael Bublé, and a long track record of major syncs

• Daniel Dávila ( @itsdanieldavila ) — Grammy-nominated engineer, producer, and songwriter with credits for TXT, Katy Perry, and Robert Glasper, plus extensive sync work for TV and brands

🎛️ We explore:

• How to read a sync brief (and know when not to send)

• Building connections with music supervisors, publishers, and agencies

• The business side — splits, fees, and red flags in contracts

• Balancing sync writing with artist identity

• Trends in sync placements for 2025 and beyond

💡 Plus: listener questions on pitching, catalog strategy, and what makes music truly sync-friendly.

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🎧 Producer Points Playlist: Spotify
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🎧 Unlike Pluto on “Everything Black,” Finding His Voice & Releasing 11 Albums Since 2019

In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Unlike Pluto (Armond Arabshahi) — a producer-turned-artist whose creative evolution has made him one of the most prolific and boundary-pushing voices in modern music. After his breakout hit “Everything Black” with Mike Taylor, Unlike Pluto stepped out from behind the boards to become the vocalist and driving force of his own project. Since 2019, he’s released 11 albums and countless singles, proving that relentless creativity can reshape an artist’s identity.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• ​“Everything Black” (Unlike Pluto ft. Mike Taylor) — the origin story, bass and drop design, production choices, and how the song has aged over time
• ​“Boom” (Unlike Pluto) — messy clean guitars, bold vocal layers, and sonic risks that made the track hit hard

🎛️ We explore:

• ​The transition from EDM producer with features to full-fledged artist
• ​How he’s built systems to release music at an incredible pace
• ​Favorite gear and plugins (from Soothe2 to Pigments to ShaperBox)
• ​Balancing quality and quantity while staying emotionally connected to the work
• ​Why community, fans, and live performance fuel his creative drive

🔗 Follow & Listen:Unlike Pluto: @unlikeplutoJustin Gammella: @justin_gammellaProducer Points: @producer_pointsTikTok: @producer.points🎧 Producer Points Playlist: Spotify🎙️ Full Episodes: Spotify | Apple Podcasts

🎧 Dasha’s “Austin” — Travis Heidelman on Producing Hits That Feel Alive

In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Travis Heidelman — the producer and songwriter behind Dasha’s viral hit “Austin (Boots Stop Workin’).” With a sound that feels vibrant, organic, and emotionally resonant, Travis has quickly become a go-to collaborator for artists like Claire Rosenkranz, Mercer Henderson, Aimee Vant, and Abigail Osborn.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• “Austin (Boots Stop Workin’)” by Dasha — balancing modern polish with organic textures, from stomps and claps to guitar tones and strings

• “No Strings Attached” by Mercer Henderson — emotional sound design, synths with Postal Service vibes, and a build that pulls you in

🎛️ We explore:

• Travis’s workflow — day-of bounces, mixbus processing, and session organization

• His go-to tools and plugins for creating alive, textured productions

• Balancing artist authenticity with creative experimentation

• Why collaboration, patience, and trust are at the heart of his process

🔗 Follow & Listen:
Travis Heidelman: @travis.heidelman
Justin Gammella: @justin_gammella
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TikTok: @producer.points
🎧 Producer Points Playlist: Spotify
🎙️ Full Episodes: Spotify | Apple Podcasts

🎧 Roundtable: Building a Home Studio on a Budget — With Producers Behind Sabrina Carpenter, Cameron Whitcomb & Robert DeLong

Building a home studio is one of the most exciting—and stressful—parts of being a producer. From deciding whether to prioritize gear or vibe, to making a garage sound professional, every producer faces the same questions when setting up a space on a budget.

In this roundtable, Justin sits down with three producers who’ve been through it all — from bedrooms to pro setups — to share their best advice, hacks, and hard lessons:

• Ryan Marrone ( @ryanmarrone ) — producer for Sabrina Carpenter, JP Saxe

• David Schaeman ( @schaedog ) — producer for Cameron Whitcomb, Emeline

• Robert DeLong ( @robertdelong ) — electronic artist, producer, and multi-instrumentalist

🎛️ We explore:

• Renting vs. owning: what matters most when picking your space

• Budget gear essentials vs. what to upgrade later

• DIY acoustic treatment that actually works

• Creating a space artists want to write in (and why snacks and bathrooms matter)

• Futureproofing your setup without wasting money

💡 Plus: Listener questions on gear regrets, noisy neighbors, and whether analog gear is worth it when you’re just starting out.

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🎧 Producer Points Playlist: Spotify
🎙️ Full Episodes: Spotify | Apple Podcasts

🎧 HOLYCHILD’s Brat Pop Blueprint — Louie Diller on Creating Ahead of the Curve

In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Louie Diller — songwriter, producer, drummer, and one half of the groundbreaking duo HOLYCHILD. A decade after their debut The Shape of Brat Pop to Come, Louie reflects on how HOLYCHILD helped pioneer the brat pop sound that still feels ahead of its time.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• “Barbie Nation” by HOLYCHILD — chaotic yet controlled production, playful vocal tone, and odd-time signatures that somehow groove

• “Favorite” by Silver Otto — vocal production, drum pocket choices, and the unexpected journey of a song written with Bonnie McKee

🎛️ We explore:

• Louie’s unique drum programming style and transient-rich productions

• Gear favorites, from Spitfire Labs to Zildjian Master Sound hi-hats

• The balance of perfection vs. imperfection in modern pop

• Why songwriter advocacy through SONA is so critical for the future of music

🔗 Follow & Listen:
Louie Diller: @louieliveslaughsloves
Justin Gammella: @justin_gammella
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TikTok: @producer.points
🎧 Producer Points Playlist: Spotify
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From Writing “Mad at Disney” to Producing “Dirty Martini” — Salem Ilese on Becoming the Artist She Needed

In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with platinum-selling artist, songwriter, and now producer Salem Ilese — the creative force behind viral anthems like “Mad at Disney,” “PS5,” and “Build a Bitch” (with Bella Poarch).

But this conversation is about more than just writing hits. It’s about creative evolution. Salem opens up about stepping into production, owning her sound, and what it’s taken to become the artist she spent years writing for.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• “hahaha” — self-producing vulnerable lyrics with bold sonic textures

• “Dirty Martini” — finding the line between confidence and chaos, and how this song redefined her sound

🎛️ We explore:

• Writing hits for Bella Poarch, TXT, Ava Max & more

• Learning production and taking full creative control

• Her plug-ins and setup: RC-20, Baby Audio, Leapwing, Output Portal & more

• Balancing artist and songwriter identities

• What she wishes she knew earlier — and what she’d tell any young producer trying to do both

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TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@producer.points
🎧 Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2oqD4l6js2moC7r1DxqAR9?si=ff91d84b02b04997

In this first-ever Producer Points Hot Take, Justin tackles a problem that’s quietly reshaping the music industry: artists are writing way too many songs.

🎙 We cover:

• How the industry shifted from 30–50 songs per project to 100–200

• Why post-pandemic artists traded live show development for endless writing

• The burnout this causes for artists, songwriters, and producers

• Why playing live is still the best way to build real fans

Justin calls for a balance between creating music and living life — and explains why artists should push back when teams demand non-stop writing.

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🎧 Behind the Scenes of “Sunroof”: Dazy on Viral Moments, Ableton Hacks & Drum Perfection

In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Dazy (Nick Minutaglio)—the artist, songwriter, and producer behind Nicky Youre’s global smash “Sunroof” and collaborations with Role Model, Maude Latour, Tanerelle, Carter Ryan, Quinn XCII, DVBBS, and more.

From his early SoundCloud days to topping charts worldwide, Dazy shares his unique journey, deep dives into his guitar-driven pop sound, and unpacks how he builds tight, infectious productions that stick.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• “Sunroof” by Nicky Youre — how it started as a dorm voice memo, why the guitars needed two dozen layers, and the key change that made it a hit

• “No Rush” by Maude Latour — dreamy vocal stacks, loose doubles, and the balance between simplicity and impact

🎛️ We explore:

• Ableton hacks for faster, cleaner bounces

• Drum programming, groove layering, and tight bass tricks

• Guitar tones, Sketch Cassette magic, and pedal choices

• Building a music career post-college, DM’ing your way into sessions, and how “Sunroof” blew up on TikTok

• Plug or Unplug: Dazy’s honest takes on Trackspacer, CLA Vocals, Radiator, Output Thermal, and more

🎧 Available now on all podcast platforms and YouTube.

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TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@producer.points
🎧 Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2oqD4l6js2moC7r1DxqAR9?si=ff91d84b02b04997

In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with platinum-selling artist, songwriter, and producer Jake Scott—the heart-forward creative behind fan favorites like “Good Day” and the Russell Dickerson hit “She Likes It.”

From his Arkansas roots to signing a publishing deal with David Hodges, Jake shares the highs, lows, and lessons of building an independent career fueled by consistency, intention, and emotional connection.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• “Good Day” by Jake Scott — the story behind its uplifting tone, collabing with Noah Conrad, unexpected horn choices, and Jake’s vocal chain & guitar textures

• “She Likes It” by Russell Dickerson ft. Jake Scott — minimalism done right: super-wide guitar tricks, tight 808s, and production restraint that lets the song breathe

🎛️ We explore:

• Jake’s “One Song a Month” strategy that built his fanbase from the ground up

• Working with Aloe Blacc, Jason Mraz & Russell Dickerson

• Favorite gear and plugins (CLA-2A, Wunder CM7, Goodhertz Trem, etc.)

• Why phase-aligned real drums still matter

• Plug or Unplug: Jake’s take on vocal chains, VMR, RX11 & more

Whether you’re a producer, a songwriter, or an artist trying to build something real—this one’s full of gold.

🔗 Follow & Listen:
Jake Scott: @jakescottmusic
Justin Gammella: @justingammella
Producer Points: @producer_points
TikTok: @producer.points
🎧 Playlist: Producer Points Spotify Playlist

🎧 FINNEAS to Lin-Manuel Miranda: Vocal Tuning Tips from the Industry’s Best

Tuning vocals is one of the most essential—and misunderstood—parts of modern music production. In this Producer Points roundtable, Justin sits down with three of the industry's sharpest ears to talk through how they keep vocals pitch-perfect without losing the emotion.

Featuring the minds behind artists like FINNEAS, Khalid, Demi Lovato, Sabrina Carpenter, Justin Bieber, and Lin-Manuel Miranda, this conversation cuts through the noise and gets real about what actually works in 2025—from raw takes to robotically tight hooks.

🎙️ Guests:

• Denis Kosiak (Khalid, Normani, Justin Bieber)
  Instagram: @deniskosiak

• Scott Robinson (Demi Lovato, Sabrina Carpenter, LP)
  Instagram: @greatscottcreates

• Bri Holland (Tick Tick Boom, Dear Evan Hansen, Vivo)
  Instagram: @bri_holland

🎛️ We cover:

• The right order: Auto-Tune first or Melodyne?

• Fixing artifacts without sounding fake

• Why older singers sound off when tuned

• When not to tune at all

• Go-to plugins and vocal chains

• Creative workflows from Broadway to Billboard

🎧 Episode ends with “In the Bounce Folder”—updates on what everyone’s working on now.

🔗 Follow & Listen:
Justin Gammella: @justingammella
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TikTok: @producer.points
🎧 Playlist: Producer Points Spotify Playlist

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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with genre-blending producer, songwriter, and mixer David Schaeman — the creative mind behind standout tracks for Cameron Whitcomb, Emeline, John Harvie, and LOYALS. A Berklee alum with an ear for cinematic pop, gritty country, and hooky punk, David walks through his production style and shares insights into balancing raw emotion with polished execution.

🎶 Song deep dives:

“Quitter” by Cameron Whitcomb — driving acoustics, layered vocals, and rhythmic punch
“This Is How I Learn to Say No” by Emeline — vocal pocket, guitar grit, and emotional clarity

🎛️ We explore:

• David’s go-to guitar pedals, vocal chains, and mixbus templates
• The balance of analog gear and digital tools
• Why the pocket matters more than perfection

If you love emotionally rich records and tight, dynamic production—you’ll get a lot out of this one.

🔗 Follow & Listen:
David Schaeman: @schaedog
Justin Gammella: @justingammella
Producer Points: @producer_points
TikTok: @producer.points
Producer Points Playlist: Spotify
Full Episodes: Spotify, Apple

In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with groundbreaking producer, songwriter, and label founder Elie Rizk — the creative force behind hits for KESHI, Bella Poarch, Renee Rapp, Jessie Murph, mazie, Sub Urban, Diplo, and more. Elie shares the stories and techniques behind some of his biggest productions and explains how his label Good Boy Records is changing the game for songwriters.

🎶 Song deep dives:

• "Build a Bitch" by Bella Poarch — balancing bombast, satire, and grit

• "Soft Spot" by Keshi — intimate production, analog textures, and drum simplicity

🎛️ We explore:

• Elie’s go-to gear, mixbus, and vocal chains

• Using real instruments in modern pop

• How Good Boy Records is pushing for songwriter equity

If you care about great pop music and ethical creative business, don’t miss this.

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Roundtable: Day One Bounce Survival Guide — Demoitis, Mixbus, & Vocals
In this episode of Producer Points, we're digging into one of the most stressful — and most important — moments in a producer’s workflow: the Day One bounce.

That first export gets sent to artists, managers, and labels. It sets the tone, shapes opinions, and might even determine whether the song survives. It might not be the final version, but it feels final to everyone else. And once someone gets attached to a demo… good luck changing it.

From dealing with demoitis to deciding whether to send a polished bounce or just a topline over chords, we break it all down with three incredibly insightful producers who’ve lived it.

🎧 We cover:

• What should actually go in a Day One bounce (and what shouldn’t)

• How vocal comps, mixbus chains, and plugin stacks affect the first impression

• Tools for getting clean, emotional, and fast bounces

• The fine line between “rough” and “rushed”

• When the Day One should be the final

This one is packed with real-world advice, workflow tricks, and brutally honest takes on the invisible pressure every producer faces.

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👥 Guests:
Kayla Diamond – @thekayladiamond
Andrew J. Gomez – @andrewj_gomez

🎙️ Hosted by Justin Gammella
📸 Justin: @justingammella

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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Grammy-winning producer and songwriter POM POM (Kellen Pomeranz), whose sound spans genre and generation—from stripped-down ballads with John Legend to alt-pop gems with Lyn Lapid, Leyla Blue, Suki Waterhouse, and more.

🎸 We explore her guitar-forward production style, signature drum sound, and how she uses space and texture to support powerful storytelling.

🔊 Go behind the scenes of Leyla Blue’s “What a Shame” and Lyn Lapid’s “In My Mind”—from guitar mic’ing and vocal layering to trap drum programming and foley-laced intros.

🎛️ Plus: her go-to mixbus tricks, backing vocal philosophies, favorite gear, and a Plug or Unplug round featuring the Frank Dukes Prince Synth, Valhalla Delay, CLA Vocals, and more.

Whether you’re a producer, songwriter, or just someone who loves beautifully crafted records—this one’s a masterclass.

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Cambo on Working with Doja Cat, Jackson Wang & Reinventing Country Music

In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with producer and songwriter Cambo, whose genre-defying work spans pop, rock, and country. From shaping the explosive sound of Doja Cat and Jackson Wang to redefining what modern country can be with Tanner Adell, Cambo unpacks the creative mindset and technical workflow behind his bold productions.

🎸 Deep dive on Jackson Wang’s “Blow” — how Cambo fused gritty guitars with polished pop
🤠 Breaking down “Buckle Bunny” by Tanner Adell — from 808s and acoustic guitars to sub-lifting bass
🎛️ Mixbus tricks, vocal chain techniques, and his studio setup at Lineage Studios
🤝 Collaboration philosophy, artist-first sessions, and how to stay genre-versatile without losing your identity

A must-listen for producers, songwriters, and anyone curious about pushing sonic boundaries in today’s music.

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How to Co-Produce Without Killing Each Other (Roundtable)
Co-producing can be one of the most rewarding—and most frustrating—parts of making music. Sometimes you click instantly and the track builds itself. Other times, every decision feels like a tug-of-war.

In this episode of Producer Points, Justin is joined by three seasoned producers—DJ Kyriakides (Daylight), Skylar Mones, and Lowen—to unpack the real-life dynamics of co-production. From setting roles to settling disputes, they share what actually works.

We cover:
🎛️ The difference between creative chemistry and creative clashes
🎧 Working remotely vs. in-person
💾 Session org nightmares and file naming hacks
💸 How to approach splits, credits, and backend
🛠 Favorite tools for smooth collaboration
💬 What to do when it just isn’t working

Also mentioned: Jungle Audio — the plugin company co-founded by Daylight.

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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with producer and artist Hazey Eyes — known for his lush, cinematic production style on tracks with Jeremy Zucker, Chelsea Cutler, Suki Waterhouse, and more.

Blending classical training with indie-pop instincts, Hazey Eyes opens up about how he builds emotional landscapes through texture, restraint, and careful sound design. From banjos and layered choirs to dreamy strings and reverb-drenched guitars, his productions let the song breathe without ever feeling empty.

🎛️ We dive into:
• The story behind “Terrible Things” by Jeremy Zucker & Chelsea Cutler
• How “Model Actress Whatever” came together with Suki Waterhouse
• Mixing dreamy vocals, gritty drums, and minimal elements for maximum emotion
• His favorite gear, go-to plugins, and how he organizes sessions
• Rapid-fire opinions in our Plug or Unplug segment

If you're into emotional, cinematic production that still hits hard, this one’s for you.

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Lo-Fi Vibes to Folk Anthems — Sarcastic Sounds on Collaborating with Lil Wayne & David Kushner

In this episode of Producer Points, Justin dives into the world of Sarcastic Sounds — the Canadian producer and artist redefining modern music with his unique blend of lo-fi aesthetics and hi-fi precision. From crafting moody beats to working with genre giants like Lil Wayne and David Kushner, Sarcastic Sounds shares how he bridges the gap between hip-hop, pop, and folk-inspired anthems.

🎛️ Go behind the scenes on collaborations like BoyWithUke’s "Loafers" and Dean Lewis’ "Empire" as Sarcastic Sounds unpacks his approach to sound design, emotional storytelling, and the creative freedom that comes with trusting your instincts.

🎹 Highlights:
• The story behind “Loafers” and balancing rawness with polish
• Techniques for building anthemic yet intimate productions
• How to craft lo-fi drum textures that stand out
• His favorite gear and plugins — including Soundtoys Little AlterBoy and Chandler TG2
• Advice for aspiring producers on blending imperfections into hit records

If you're passionate about sound design, songwriting, and taking risks in the studio, this episode is a must-listen.

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In this Producer Points Roundtable, Justin is joined by artists and producers Unlike Pluto, Kat Kennedy, and Nate Flaks for an unfiltered conversation on what’s actually working for self-releasing music in 2025.

From building an audience without a label to making real money as an indie artist, they break down the strategies, tools, and realities behind releasing music on your own terms.

🧠 Topics Covered:
• Why artists are choosing independence now more than ever
• How to grow a fanbase without going viral
• What pre-release strategies matter (and what’s outdated)
• The truth about playlists in 2025
• Getting paid without a budget: splits, back-end deals, and tools
• When to stay independent—and when to sign

Whether you're a DIY artist, a producer supporting independent acts, or just curious about the modern music economy, this one’s for you.

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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with producer and songwriter Joe Pepe — a creative force behind hits for mgk, Travis Barker, Kiana Lede, and more. Known for his hard-hitting drums and biting guitar tones, Joe breaks down the process behind his signature sound. From his East Coast roots to Los Angeles studios, he shares insights into his workflow, building trust in the studio, and how he captures the perfect day-of bounce.

🔊 They dive into the stories behind Chloe Lilac’s “Supermoon” and Sam Short’s “Aphrodite,” revealing Joe’s favorite production tricks, vocal chains, and mixing hacks. Plus, Joe shares lessons from collaborating with MGK, Travis Barker, Kiana Lede, and others — and why finding the right balance between organic and modern sounds is key to a killer record.

🛠️ Plug-in talk, gear favorites, and why sometimes the best thing you can do is trust your gut.

If you’re into modern pop, alternative production, or just want to learn how to make drums hit like they mean it, this episode is a must-listen.

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In this episode of Producer Points, we continue our deep dive into the plugin rabbit hole with some of the best minds in music production. Host Justin Gammella is joined once again by DJ Kyriakides (Daylight), Scott Robinson, and David Arkwright to unpack how our favorite plugins can sometimes sabotage a mix—without us even realizing it.

This week, the crew tackles the dangers of Fresh Air on vocals, the power (and pitfalls) of Soothe 2, the deceptive shine of Valhalla Vintage Verb, and why OTT can be both a secret weapon and a sonic wrecking ball. From the placebo effect of plugin defaults to the case for analog alternatives, this conversation is a must-listen for any producer serious about taking their mixes to the next level.

🔥 Highlights:

• When Fresh Air is your friend—and when it’s your foe.

• The unexpected impact of phase issues with certain plugins.

• Why default settings might be your worst enemy.

• How to build taste and trust your ears over the hype.

• Listener questions on analog vs. in-the-box processing.

Whether you’re a plugin junkie or an analog purist, this episode will challenge how you think about your tools—and inspire you to make every mix a masterpiece.

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Ryan Hunter on Sync, Cinematic Production & His Evolution from Envy on the Coast to 1st Vows
In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with artist, songwriter, and producer Ryan Hunter — best known for fronting the iconic band Envy on the Coast and for his deeply atmospheric solo project, 1st Vows. From the alternative rock scene to film scoring, Ryan’s genre-defying career is a testament to reinvention and honesty in artistry.

🎙️ We dive into the emotional and sonic layers of 1st Vows’ “Never Learnt to Pray” and how Ryan builds intimacy and scale in the same breath.
💭 Hear how “Was It a Dream” with MARIS came together, including vocal production tips and experimental textures.
🎬 Ryan shares his journey into film and sync work — the mindset shift, musical demands, and how storytelling plays a central role.
🎛️ Plus: plugin preferences, favorite gear (Highland Park BG2, Eventide H3000, API preamps), and how he dials in a perfect day-of bounce.

If you're looking for insight into cinematic pop production and emotionally charged songwriting, this episode is a must.

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In this special Roundtable episode of Producer Points, host Justin Gammella is joined by three of his closest friends in the industry—DJ Kyriakides (Daylight), Scott Robinson, and David Arkwright—to tackle the age-old question: Is your favorite plugin actually holding your mix back? From overused presets to modern AI tools, this episode dives deep into the habits, crutches, and comfort zones that might be sabotaging your productions.

🎧 Topics include:
• Why your favorite plugin might be killing your creativity
• The rise of "intelligent" plugins like Soothe 2 and Gullfoss—help or hindrance?
• The loudness trap: chasing punch at the cost of emotion
• Presets vs. originality
• The placebo effect of plugins
• Our go-to plugin chains—and the ones we should probably ditch

🔥 Plus, a heated debate on BB Tubes, OTT, God Particle, CLA Vocals, and more.

This is Part 1 of a two-part episode. Stay tuned for the continuation in Part 2 next week!

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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with producer, songwriter, vocalist, and mixer Daylight (DJ Kyriakides) — a true 100-percenter known for crafting records that balance timeless emotion with bold sonic choices. From his Grammy-nominated work with Shawn Mendes to collaborations with Sabrina Carpenter, GAYLE, Maroon 5, Mon Rovia, and K.Flay, DJ brings intention and integrity to every project he touches.

🎧 We break down the making of “Stitches” — from the iconic stomp-clap groove to the raw vocal takes that made it a global hit. Learn how DJ layered acoustic textures, processed gang vocals, and kept ad libs exciting without overcrowding the mix.

🔊 DJ opens up about studio design, production mindset, and gear favorites — including AudioScape hardware, Goodhertz plugins, and why simple choices often win.

🌌 We also dive into Mon Rovia’s “To Watch the World Spin Without You”, how DJ balances emotional weight with mix clarity, and the difference between producing for pop stars vs. emerging indie acts.

Whether you’re a producer, artist, or creative of any kind, this episode is a blueprint for staying passionate, collaborative, and grounded in the long game.

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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with producer and songwriter Nevin Sastry — the creative force behind Shaboozey’s chart-dominating “A Bar Song (Tipsy)”, as well as tracks with JoJo, Noah Cyrus, phem, Upsahl, and more. With a background that spans classical guitar, medical school, and genre-bending production, Nevin brings a rare combination of discipline and intuition to the studio.

🎧 We dive into “A Bar Song (Tipsy)” — from reimagining J-Kwon’s classic into a country anthem to co-producing the viral hit with Sean Cook and building a vocal chain that cuts through any mix.

🎸 He breaks down his approach to acoustic tone, crowd layering, whistle tracking, and why the simplest parts often hit the hardest when they’re recorded with care.

🎚️ Production talk from “Winning Streak” and Lady Wrangler — how he crafted Shaboozey’s debut album sound, created cinematic moments with minimal ingredients, and found his signature guitar tone.

🔌 A deep “Plug or Unplug” segment covering Omnisphere, Superior Drummer 3, CLA Vocals, Kramer Tape, Guitar Rig, and more — plus, why trusting your gut matters more than your gear.

Nevin’s story is equal parts risk and reward — and a must-listen for anyone chasing longevity in today’s fast-moving music landscape.

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Falconry Breaks Down ‘numb little bug’ and the Power of Performance-Based Production

On this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with producer, songwriter, and guitarist Falconry (aka Dru DeCaro), whose work spans from electrifying live performances with Miguel and Machine Gun Kelly to studio productions for Em Beihold, Christian French, One OK Rock, Clean Bandit, Fletcher, jxdn, and more.

We dig into:🎸 Falconry’s evolution from shredding in Baltimore bands to producing radio hits in LA
🎧 The story behind Em Beihold’s viral breakout “numb little bug” — how it came together in one day and sparked a global moment
🎛️ His philosophy of “performance-based production” — how guitar chops, live energy, and studio creativity all blend together
🔥 Deep dive on Christian French’s “love ride” and the art of blending guitars with digital sound design
🎸 His favorite pedals, outboard gear, and the rare Dookie amp mod he uses in the studio
👀 What producers can learn from being on stage — and how to build emotion into every note

Whether you're a guitar-forward producer or just obsessed with gear, tone, and songwriting instinct, this episode is packed with knowledge, stories, and real talk from one of the most versatile talents in music today.

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In this episode of Producer Points, Justin sits down with Christian Dold—better known as Diamond Pistols—for a deep dive into his explosive production style, his viral hits with bbno$ and Yung Gravy, and the mindset shifts that took him from bedroom beatmaker to in-demand hitmaker. From crafting the viral smash “edamame” to shaping Yung Gravy’s “C’est La Vie,” Christian shares how he keeps his sound simple, bold, and wildly effective.

They talk:🎧 The making of “edamame” and why the horns were an accident
🎧 How a Baja Fresh trip inspired one of his biggest tracks
🎧 Why fewer layers = better mixes
🎧 Favorite gear, plugins, vocal chain, and mixbus philosophy
🎧 Lessons from working with artists like Rich Brian and Baby No Money
🎧 Why building with indie artists changed his life—and his finances

Plus, Diamond Pistols gives rapid-fire takes in the "Plug or Unplug" segment and shares what advice he’d give his younger self walking into his first L.A. sessions.

🎶 Check out the Producer Points Spotify playlist for the songs discussed in this episode.