Fresh off their Ballerina Farm pilgrimage, the girls are back—and chaos reigns. Lauren and Chanler unpack the alleged threat Blake Lively’s legal team made against Taylor Swift (yes, the one about exposing 10 years of private texts 😳). Then it’s a deep dive into the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: ketamine therapy, family betrayal, facelifts, and MomTok delusions. Plus, major developments in the Karen Read trial and Cassie Ventura’s devastating testimony in the Diddy case. You’re not ready. 👀

⏱️ Chapter Timestamps:

[00:00–01:00] 🐄 Back from Ballerina Farm: A recap of their visit to Utah with Courtney Grow

[01:00–13:00] 💔 Taylor vs. Blake: The alleged threat, the fallout, and the godmother betrayal

[13:00–16:00] 👀 Travis Kelsey unfollows Ryan, Reputation (TV) hints, and the AMAs theory

[16:00–44:00] 🎬 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives S2: Taylor’s heartbreak, toxic parents, and ketamine therapy

[44:00–45:30] ✈️ PSA: Why Provo dating is a danger zone

[45:30–54:00] ⚖️ Karen Read trial update: Discredited expert testimony, taillight confusion, and police cover-up concerns

[54:00–55:30] 😠 Sgt. Yuri Bucha's shady performance on the stand

[55:30–01:02:00] 💣 Diddy trial: Cassie’s testimony, freak off allegations, and the breakdown of his decade-long abuse

[01:02:00–01:03:00] 🧠 Why this matters: justice for victims and Cassie’s stand

[01:03:00–01:04:00] 🎤 Outro: Upcoming content, love for the Global Elite, and farewell until Friday

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Lauren and Chanler’s dad, a family law attorney, returns to share legal wisdom on divorce, prenups, and child support, plus wild stories like chasing stolen goods. They reflect on their LDS upbringing, raising five daughters, and pursuing dreams at any age.

⏱️ Timestamps

[00:00–02:00] 🎙️ Dad’s Return

Listener love brings Dad back.

[02:00–04:00] 💕 Deb’s Friendship

Dad cherishes his 42-year marriage.

[04:00–09:00] 👧 Raising Daughters

Mom’s strictness, faith, and reading shaped success.

[09:00–10:00] ⚖️ Baby Names

Courts don’t block odd names.

[10:00–13:00] 💸 Income Lies

Fight ex’s fraud; ditch shady lawyers.

[13:00–17:00] 🕵️‍♂️ Attorney Choice

Pick specialists, trust gut, watch judges.

[17:00–19:00] 💳 Blocked Accounts

Lawyer up for support orders.

[19:00–21:00] 💼 Post-Divorce Work

Both spouses must work; skills matter.

[21:00–23:00] 😈 Bad Behavior

Affairs rarely affect no-fault divorce.

[23:00–27:00] 👨‍👧 Five Girls

Dad navigated hormones; Mom was strict.

[27:00–30:00] 💔 Divorce Tips

Seek faith, a friend; try saving marriage.

[30:00–33:00] 📈 Impulsive Divorces

More common, but kids suffer.

[33:00–38:00] ⚖️ Law Path

Started law at 30 with three kids.

[38:00–41:00] 🚀 Chase Dreams

Pursue goals at any age.

[41:00–44:00] 📝 Prenups

Fair prenups share future earnings.

[44:00–48:00] 🧗‍♀️ College Days

Lauren’s risky dates; sisters’ server jobs.

[48:00–50:00] 🦅 Daughters’ Paths

All chose bold careers, not law.

[50:00–52:00] 💡 New Careers

Nursing, paralegal, sales for reentry.

[52:00–57:00] 🚨 Wild Tales

Limo attorney; stolen goods chase.

[57:00–59:00] 💰 Greed’s Cost

Hidden assets don’t pay off.

[59:00–01:01:00] 🌟 No Status

Raised valuing love, not pedigree.

[01:01:00–End] 🎤 Sign-Off

Dad’s 25 followers get love.

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Lauren and Chan chat about Kim and Kanye’s latest battle (6:27), Meghan Markle’s new podcast (14:17) as well as her St. Patrick’s Day snafu (19:45), Taylor Swift’s latest easter eggs (26:34), and Donna Kelce’s surprising Instagram post (28:40). Lauren and Chan are then joined by the one and only Arielle Lorre to share the intense amount of work that goes into her career and two shocking personal stories that you have to hear to believe. Arielle mentions it all: Behind the scenes of building an influencer and podcast brand (35:37), Arielle’s favorite skincare products (47:04), Arielle’s catastrophic jet lag (48:13), and finally, Arielle’s botox nightmare (54:56)

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Hear Lauren's struggles as she attempts to curate her wedding on IG, Chanler's tale of almost getting kicked out of the spa, and then all the gals' thoughts on "Pamela, A Love Story" and the new Armie Hammer interview. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

*PATREON* Listen in for all the tea on Prince Andrew's marriage to and divorce from Sarah Ferguson and finally, at long and dear last, Tina's take on Prince Andrew's cavorting with Jeffrey Epstein. CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We chat all our thoughts on Tar, RHONY Legacy being cancelled, and then the highlights and lowlights of creating Pop Apologists, including our favorite episodes! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

*PATREON* This week we are bringing you a smattering of topics and quite the candor! We chat our friendship with Heather Gay and our feelings about her loyalty to Jen shah, our Current thoughts on Bravo/housewives including RHOSLC. We give a breakdown of the Boston man who murdered and dismembered his wife and a recap of the Michael Haight's murder of his wife, 5 kids, & mother in law. Finally, we have a candid discussion on all things Ozempic/adderall/phentermine/ silver bullet weight loss pills and a long overdue rehashing of Melissa Wood & her long lean crimes. CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

*PATREON* First, Chan gives us an update on our wisened Facebook Marketplace friend (the saga continues...)! Lauren shares about a tumble in the streets of PR that almost sent her to the ER....and finally, we give our thoughts on Prince Harry's 60 Minutes interview and his appearance on the Colbert Report. Thanks for being Patreonies! <3 <3 <3  CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week the gals break down all that we know about the chilling University of Idaho murders. Listen to the timeline of events leading up to the murders, how law enforcement were able to zero in on alleged murderer Bryan Kohberger, and what new details have emerged since his arrest.  To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

*PATREON* This week we are diving into the pre-Epstein antics of Prince Andrew, a litany of dealings with ne'er-do-wells, as well as his ill-fated first love with an erotic Hollywood actress. Enjoy! CLICK HERE TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Listen in as the gals discuss the Goop podcast interview with Kim Kardashian, and why many people, including keyboard warrior Bethenny Frankel, had some strong feelings about it. Lauren and Chan give their thoughts on what we find fascinating about Kim K as well as Gwyneth Paltrow, and the juice we wish they would give. The girls give their thoughts on New York magazine's Nepo Baby article, and why we think a family first mentality doesn't have to be a bad thing. Hear all about the book that had both Lauren and Chan absolutely riveted, "I'm Glad My Mom Died," the memoir by Jennette McCurdy. Lauren and Chan give their new year's intentions and what they are committing to in 2023. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are diving back into another chapter "The Palace Papers" where Tina Brown spills the royal tea on William and Kate's romance. The gals discuss the shocking breakup when the relationship got too serious for William, the master plan that had William running back to Kate, the surprising #1 supporter of Kate, and the eventual Kenyan proposal. Hear all about Kate's bachelorette party, where she sings about how she had to "fight for this love" and our thoughts on Kate's wedding looks. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

While Lauren is honeymooning in paradise, Chanler is joined by the legendary Joe Peacock and together they revisit celebrity relationships that we all forgot existed. Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal (as well as uncover Jake's origin story as a villain) Sandra Bullock and Ryan Gosling Jake Gyllenhaal and Kirsten Dunst Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams Ryan Reynold and Alanis Morissette Chan and Joe also discuss evidence of Taylor Swift being surrounded by Yes Men ™️ and why she needs an editor back in her life. If you want to get straight to the celebrity couples skip the first 10 or so minutes!  To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are chatting all about the latest celebrity and reality tv happenings. They dive into Blake Lively’s Another Simple Favor premiere at SXSW (4:24), Nick Viall’s reaction to Justin Baldoni on Juicy Scoop (8:33), the newest allegations about Justin Baldoni (11:06), Blake and Ryan wanting to protect their texts (16:59), Thomas Markle’s statements about With Love, Meghan (21:45), Kylie Jenner and Timothée Chalamet’s recent tennis outing (29:27), updates on Jax Taylor and Brittany’s side about what prompted him to get help (31:13), Tamra Judge quitting RHOC (35:06), and finally, their take on The Baldwins (41:26). 

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Listen as the gals dive into the life of Hollywood's hottest young Christian couples, Justin and Hailey Bieber. Journey with them though Justin's dark years and hear how his faith led him to be ready for a relationship with his bestie Hailey. Get all the tea about Justin and Hailey's early years, how their relationship went from a random Today show meeting to an eventual romance, and finally to a beautiful Christian union. Plus, hear about how Lauren and Chan ruined various concerts for Deb, and why their future children had better be ready to roll up their sleeves and get to work. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode contains references to suicide, sexual abuse, and child sexual abuse. And of course it does, we're talking about Keith Raniere! That's right, this week we have a total, complete, and comprehensive guide to The Vow Season II on HBO Max. None other than the incredible Kate Casey joins to debrief this harrowing new season. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It's a deep dive on two the planet's most attractive humans, Tom Brady and Gisele Bundchen. From the beginning- a blind-ish first date to the event that turned their worlds upside town just two months into their relationship. To the middle- a surprisingly low-key wedding approach and the clear conclusion that Gisele is the heart of the family. And the end- "It's not working if it only works for you, Tom" and a short-lived retirement. Hear about the impact of Gisele the Good Witch and Deb's thoughts on why Tom couldn't stay retired. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Uncensored bride anxiety, a breakdown of the FTX implosion, our thoughts on Handmaid's Tale and The Crown, and Taylor Swift's continued terrible style. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Equal parts praise and reprisal, I sit down with Chanler and discuss at length both her and Joe's commentary as well as my own extensive thoughts on the album of the year: Midnights by Taylor Swift. CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Breaking down every song on Midnights, Taylor Swift's album of absolute bops & bangers, baby!!!!!!!!!! & of course Chan brought your favorite Joe Peacock to take on the task. Buckle in, Swifties! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week the gals discuss the truly stunning (Taylor Swift's new album Midnights) and the truly awful (the airplane ride that ended Brad and Angelina's marriage.) Hear more about Taylor Swift's three figurative writing pens and which one the girls need more of and the one they could do without. Lauren and Chan discuss the brilliant piece by Ann Helen Peterson, where she pulls back the curtain on Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, and the Hollywood PR machine. Get ready to have your eyes opened to the things we are not seeing and the narrative that has been spun vs. the facts. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Part two of Gwyneth Paltrow's lovers through time, from ketchup heirs and kings to rock stars and show runners. Enjoy a look at her abundant love life and truly stunning wedding with Brad Falchuk. But first, listen along as the girls discuss what they've been up to, including Lauren's makeup revelations, a questionable bracelet inscription, and Chan's maid of honor gift. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The first part of our deep dive into all of Gwyneth Paltrow's lovers through time. This week, we unpack everything through the Pre-Martin era, including one Brad Pitt and Ben Affleck. But before we get there, we chat miracles at the dentist office, a small bad trip on a boat, and songs that stir Chan. Enjoy! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are home at last. Lauren extolls the virtues of Spirit airlines, despite the aggressive dad energy of her pilot. Chan's journeys through Altercation City, a series of dark events on her journey back to NYC. The gals get into celeb cheating rumors that shake Lauren and Chan to their core. They discuss Real Housewives drama and the toll that money and fame can take on family relationships. Finally, they dish on Gwyneth Paltrow and Brad Falchuk's Goop podcast episode. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are joined by Taylor Lorenz to discuss all things related to internet culture. They dive into the following: The Socialite Rank (3:32), the social media ecosystem (11:33), parasocial relationships (14:35),  aspirational content (20:18),  mommy bloggers (28:33), the birth of influencer marketing (33:04),  viral content shaping societal values (36:42), AI creators & digital clones (40:31), going from an influencer to being in the public eye with Meghan Markle (45:16), and finally, image curation and PR strategy with Gwyneth Paltrow (51:00). 

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This week we dive into all things the celebrity plastic surgery with Dana Omari of the wildly popular Instagram account @IGFamousByDana. We discuss the easy and difficult to spot work on the Kardashians and the *alleged* extensive work on Hailey Beiber. We get into why celebs won't be honest about their work, including celebs like Margot Robbie and Blake Lively. Dana dispels the miracle pregnancy snapback myth and when to run rom a plastic surgeon. Finally, we chat the importance with being ok with not always being the object of sexual desire and the beauty and energy of acceptance. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today we are bringing you the first part of our deep dive into the extraordinarily entertaining article on Meghan Markle from The Cut! To hear the rest of this four part series on Patreon, click here! Part 3 was released today on Patreon and part 4 is coming Friday, September 16th. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today we discuss the truth behind the smoke and mirrors that have surrounded the romance of Harry and Meghan and their exodus from British life. We are joined by Kate Casey, host of Reality Life with Kate Casey, for a groundbreaking conversation about these much debated Montecito lovers. Fear not, we settle the score and more! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Answering all your plant medicine questions and much more. You guys are going to LOVE this episode. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week we answer all of your relationship questions! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We chat the new Shania Twain documentary on Netflix, the "House of Hammer" trailer about Armie Hammer's twisted ways, Lauren gets VERY REAL about wedding planning, our current workout "regimes" and more Q+A... To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week we are bringing you a massive skin deep dive on everything you need to know to get that infant glow. If you're anything like us, all the product recommendations on social media can leave you with decision fatigue and feeling a bit overwhelmed. We sat down with Sara Moran and Claire O'Bryan from The Skin Clique to get expert recommendations and a comprehensive skin care plan for everyone who is as lost as we are. We also chat the breakdown of Kim K and Pete Davidson and the new trailer of Sister Wives at the top of the show! Buckle in! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We chat Elon Musk's many children and baby mamas, his father's illicit affair with his stepdaughter, Bennifer's fashion lewks in Paris, tales of working together at a restaurant in our early twenties, and some listener Q+A. Buckle in! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It's breakup/ failed relationship szn! This week we chat Em Rata's cheating husband and divorce headline, Chelsea Handler and Joy Koy's lost love, and finally finish part II of our deep dive into the relationship of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes. Listen along for all the deets on their dramatic courtship, whirlwind engagement, the silent birth, yes "silent," birth of Suri, and the moment Katie broke down and realized she needed to escape. BUCKLE IN. Help us get to our goal of 1,000 patrons by 2023! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are joined by Kate Kennedy from the Be There in Five podcast to chat about all the things living rent-free in their minds. They discuss Jenny Slate’s It Ends With Us HR complaint and why Justin Baldoni’s communication style may be the issue (2:32). They dive into Ballerina Farm and which publication Lauren thinks should be featuring Hannah (10:57). They take a moment on Nara Smith’s account and content strategy (13:40).  They loop back around to Blake and Justin to discuss the recent Hollywood Reporter article and SNL appearance (19:15).  They discuss their take on Blake and Taylor’s friendship in light of the lawsuits (33:33). They give their take on Meghan Markle’s upcoming ventures As Ever and With Love, Meghan (38:00). Finally, they give their complete thoughts on Pookie, and whether they buy what she and Jett are selling (52:44). 

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We continue down the treacherous path of aristocratic sexcapades, the surprisingly tragic tale of Dale Harper, one of Charles's former flames, and the scandalous behavior between Charles and Camilla on the dance floor at many a country ball. We also get into Taylor Frankie Paul dancing on TikTok to her custody arrangement and the news that Khloe will be welcoming a child with Tristan. Buckle in!! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week we are diving into the love story of America's favorite mid-life lovers, Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson. We get into Tom's troubled childhood, rise to fame, and eventual ascent to stardom and meeting the love of his life. And oh yes, we chat Rita's late-in-life singing career. Listen along for all the details on how their Hollywood romance has stood the test of time. Click here to listen to more from our Royal's Deep Dive and help us reach our goal of 1K patrons! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We are bringing you a full episode from our Royal's Deep Dive on Patreon! Listen along for all the absolutely glorious details about Camilla Parker Bowles' stunning upbringing in a lifestyle of leisure, her great grandmother's utterly salacious affair with King Edward VII, and exactly why Charles cannot quit his beloved Duchess of Cornwall. Click here to listen to more from our Royal's Deep Dive and help us reach our goal of 1K patrons! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We get into The Kardashian's finale, Gwyneth Paltrow's interview with Brad Pitt for Goop, Lauren's new obsession with Near Death Experiences, and Amber's interview with Savannah Guthrie! To support the show and access our Royals Deep Dive episodes, plus our 100+ bonus episodes on Patreon, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

To support the show and access our Royals Deep Dive episodes, plus our 100+ bonus episodes on Patreon, click here! Part 1 of our royals deep dive recapping The Palace Papers by Tina Brown! We get into many overlooked parts of royals history, like the true meaning behind Meghan's dark eye make up and low bun during her sit down with Oprah, how Princess Diana got tricked into her tell all interview with Martin Bashir, the tumultuous childhood of Prince Philip, and the drama at Diana's funeral that had the queen fuming for years.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Indy Blue joins us in a very candid conversation about everything from leaving Mormonism, her epic upcoming wedding, to the fate of Jen Shah. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Who the f are we? How did the podcast begin? What kind of exercise do we (and Courtney) do? What self tanner do we use? What is a non-chuegy bridesmaid gift? How did our partners respond when we sent them Richard Marx's 1989 romantic ballad "I'll Be Waiting?" with zero context? Do we think Tom Cruise is gay? What is on our summer bucket list? Listen along as we bring it back to the basics, catch up, and mention it all. <3 Support the show and access 100+ bonus episodes, sign up for the Patreon by click here! Get a Bolalá beach puff! My new favorite thing! https://www.bo-lala.com/collections/beach-puff My fav self tanner! https://amzn.to/3N67lKF Walking Pad link! https://amzn.to/3azRPsf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Amber's witnesses testify and it is NOT a good day for Johnny Depp. Buckle in. ☠️ To support the show and access our Johnny v. Amber coverage in full, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A long, meandering discussion finishing up day 15 of Amber on the stand - complete with a Deb tale and John A Bledsoe, Esq phoning in.  Click here to support the show, access 100+ bonus episodes, and and listen to our coverage of the Johnny v. Amber trial in full on Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are so excited to bring you the first Pop Apologists Profile on the legend and icon Demi Moore. She’s had the kind of career that is truly one in a million, but the true story behind her life is a mix of triumph, resilience, and heartbreak. From childhood struggles to public relationships that made headlines, Demi’s journey has been anything but ordinary. Hear all about Demi’s tumultuous childhood (3:22), Demi’s shocking earliest relationships (18:55), her big break into acting (22:22), Demi meeting a hot new actor named Bruce Willis, plus all about their 13 year marriage (31:46), Demi’s iconic moments that shaped our culture (40:42), the ending of Bruce and Demi’s marriage (51:02), her relationship with Ashton Kutcher and the difficulties that followed (53:20), and finally, Demi’s stunning second act. (1:11:36)

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Breaking down iconic celebrity weddings including Kravis, The Royals, Gwyneth & Brad, and Brad & Angelina with none other than Michelle Martinez of The Big Wedding Planning Podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Back on dry land and talking about what is new with us and America's favorite family...The Kardashians. We cover all the recent episodes and their antics. From Kim's SNL stint to the Kravis proposal. Chanler's prayers are answered because Lauren FINALLY sees the light of Travis Barker. Hallelujah. We don't mince words with our thoughts on Kendall. Some additional musings from Lauren on how interior design will revolt against the all white everything and the premiere episode of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. To support the show and access our Johnny v. Amber recaps, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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