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In this week’s episode, Dr. Nicole Rochester returns to the podcast. It’s been 5 years since she described how she was inspired to create her health navigation consulting business. Since then she has expanded her business and is now working with healthcare organizations to provide her services. She is also teaching other physicians to create their own consulting businesses.

Dr. Nicole Rochester obtained her undergraduate degree from Johns Hopkins University and her medical degree from the University of Maryland School of Medicine. She is a Clinical Assistant Professor of Pediatrics at the George Washington University School of Medicine.

During today’s interview, Nicole describes why she began working as a coach and consultant for patients with complex medical problems who needed help making decisions and navigating their healthcare journey. She also explains how she began providing these services on behalf of large health systems and hospitals, which is a much more sustainable model. She also shares her ideas for other healthcare coaching and consulting businesses to use a similar strategy.

Finally, she invites physicians to contact her about learning to be a healthcare navigator by joining her group training program. All of her resources can be found at yourgpsdoc.com.

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In this week’s podcast episode, John addresses this question: Even if I’m burned out and frustrated, are there ways to stay in clinical medicine while achieving balance, satisfaction, and enjoyment? During this presentation, he discusses the following 5 options for remaining in clinical practice.

Take another stab at addressing the circumstances leading to dissatisfaction by aggressively renegotiating your employment contract. Review your contract and identify the major issues causing your frustration. Develop a strategy for renegotiating those issues with your attorney. These typically involve vacation time and covering for others’ vacations, work hours, salary, restrictive covenants, and inadequate pay for collaborating with midlevel providers.

If you’re looking for a new job, consider engaging an agent to represent you in contract negotiations with a new employer, often at no cost to you.

Start a new practice or join one that does not bill insurance companies. Direct Primary Care and Concierge practices, and narrow-focused practices often enable the physicians to work on cash-only, fee-for-service, or membership models, and to create a better lifestyle and income.

Almost any of us could start or transition to a narrow focused practice. John’s colleague was a full-time general pediatrician who transitioned to caring solely for patients with attention deficit disorder. He uses standard protocols for evaluation and management, and is an expert at billing for these services. He reduced his staff and overhead and his satisfaction and income have improved.

Finally, for those who want to achieve many of the above advantages, and others, without starting a practice, working as a micro-corporation may be a great choice. Incorporating and working as an independent contractor for a large group or hospital system provides more tax benefits, flexible investment opportunities, and off-loading the expenses for rent and staffing. 

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Dr. Zhen Chan knew early on that he wanted to be a physician and to develop new technologies and businesses to improve patient care and physician satisfaction and fulfillment. So it made sense that he would pause his medical education and obtain a traditional MBA degree.

With those degrees under his belt, he attended a pediatric residency. He went one step further and worked for a venture capital firm during his first year of pediatric practice. Now he is the CEO of a start-up company and a part-time practicing pediatrician. The company he leads, Grapevyne, facilitates job searches for physicians while reducing the costs of recruitment to hospitals and medical groups.

During our conversation today, Zhen describes what motivated him to attempt to balance 2 major careers so early in his career. Then we learn about his vision for Grapevyne, and what has been accomplished so far.

He also provides details on the Grapevyne incentive program that encourages physicians to share job openings with each other by offering modest finders fees. And he shares his vision for growing the company while offering other valuable free and low-cost services to physicians, including referrals for nonclinical jobs.

You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/new-way-to-find-a-job/

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Today John presents his interview with a medical entrepreneur who started a business to improve patient access. A business that thrived during the Covid Pandemic while other businesses were struggling.

TJ Oshun emigrated from Nigeria 20 years ago. He became a physician assistant and enrolled in medical school. This was about 5 years before the Covid Pandemic hit. He was inspired to start his business when he saw how much difficulty patients faced because hospital emergency rooms were the only option for care at night and on weekends in his community.

During our conversation, TJ described how he established CallonDoc, a company that started by connecting patients with medical providers by telephone. He quickly expanded to telehealth and telemedicine, hiring software engineers to build his own platform for delivering the care.

He was well positioned when the pandemic occurred to provide the care needed during lockdowns. He explains how CallonDoc has flourished since then, providing care across the U.S., and how it has expanded into other service lines

You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/fearless-medical-entrepreneur/

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Today John is shifting his focus to the topic of physician leadership. In the past few years, he has presented interviews with physicians in many unconventional careers with the occasional episode devoted to hospital leadership.

During the next few months, he will focus a bit more on opportunities that involve leadership roles in the hospital setting, because that is where most of the intense and expensive care is provided, and where he believes more physician leadership is needed.

To start this series, he recommends considering your motives for pursuing this nonclinical career and provides tips for getting started. Then he spends several minutes describing how physician executives must shift their focus from being decisive tactical “doers” to becoming strategic delegating planners with a focus on organizational accountability.

Finally, John describes the importance of personal accountability, optimism, and humility as key attributes for the developing physician leader.

You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/be-a-better-physician-leader/

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In this week's Classic Podcast Episode from 2020, Dr. Jennifer Spector describes how to become a medical editor. Unlike other medical editors who spent years as a paid medical writer, Jennifer parlayed her involvement in a professional society and unpaid writing to land her new editor position.

Jennifer is a Board-Certified Podiatric Physician and Surgeon with 14 years of clinical experience. She received her DPM degree from the Temple University School of Podiatric Medicine. Then she completed a three-year residency in podiatric medicine at Christian Care Health System.

She spent over 5 years in national leadership positions at the American Association for Women Podiatrists (AAWP). While at the AAWP she was responsible for writing and editing the newsletter and other documents. That experience enabled her to land her position as Associate Editor for Podiatry Today.

After working in that position for about 20 months, Jennifer was promoted to Senior Editor followed by Managing Editor at Podiatry Today. In July of 2022, she became one of the Assistant Editorial Directors at HMP Global, the parent company of Podiatry Today and a market leader in international healthcare education and clinician engagement.

You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/become-a-medical-editor/

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Dr. Neetu Sharma is a board-certified internist and nephrologist and Functional Medicine expert. She completed her internal medicine residency at Wayne State University Detroit Medical Center and her nephrology fellowship at the University of Cincinnati.

Dr. Sharma worked in a very busy private nephrology practice and became disillusioned with the heavy workload and not getting to the root causes of her patient's medical problems. She considered her options, obtained additional training in Functional Medicine, and decided to completely overhaul her career.

She decided to find a stable nonclinical career alternative, while also building a part-time virtual practice that incorporates her traditional medical training with functional medicine. She now works as a medical director for a large health plan full time, applying her medical experience and knowledge every day. She is building a new practice called Zeal Vitality offering personalized proactive wellness plans, advanced diagnostics with biomarker analysis, and holistic strategies to promote weight loss, metabolic and kidney health, and overall vitality.

You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/health-insurance-medical-director/

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Dr. Christian Zouain completed medical school in the Dominican Republic in 2010. He moved to the U.S. and, while applying for U.S. residencies, he leveraged his medical background by working as a medical assistant and scribe, and then as a Medical Case Manager and Utilization Review Specialist at hospital in New York City. There he discovered the field of Clinical Documentation Improvement (CDI).

He switched gears and obtained training in CDI and ICD-10 Coding. He used LinkedIn to network and discovered a hospital nearby looking to hire physician CDI specialists for their CDI program.

He was hired in 2015 and has worked in the field ever since. He has worked as a CDI (now Clinical Documentation Integrity) Specialist, Medical Reviewer, and Auditor, on-site and remotely, as an employee and as a self-employed freelancer. During this classic interview, Christian describes his journey, the attraction of working in the industry, and the resources to help physicians land their first CDI position.

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Dr. Heather Fork is an ICF master certified coach helping physicians find their best career path forward, whether in medicine, a nonclinical career, or something else. Heather is passionate about making it easier for physicians to navigate their careers.

She hosts the weekly Doctor’s Crossing Carpe Diem Podcast. And she has created several helpful free resources and paid courses, which can be found at doctorscrossing.com. Besides her coaching, two of her most popular resources are the Carpe Diem Resumé Kit and her course LinkedIn for Physicians (both are affiliate links so I may receive a payment if you purchase the course using my link - John).

In today’s interview, Heather helps us understand the root causes of procrastination. She then shares a model about procrastination and several tactics for overcoming it. Finally, she closes by describing how to use Artificial Intelligence to help eliminate this roadblock to your progress. 

You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/procrastination/.

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Greg Gilbaugh, DDS, completed his dental education, including an advanced dental residency, at the University of Iowa. Dr. Gilbaugh then established the Family Dental Center, near Cedar Rapids, which he has run for over 30 years.

During his long career he was forced to rebuild his practice from the ground up not once, but twice due to “once in a lifetime” natural disasters. Then, when the dust finally settled, he was diagnosed with a physical disability that meant he could no longer practice dentistry and was forced to put his full focus on running the business side of his practice.

This led to him establishing the Kalos Business Group through which he speaks and consults on leadership and business development, helping others in their journey to connect that which is most important with the area in which they spend the most time (their business). He is also the author of Letting Good Things Run Wild.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/beat-burnout-for-good/

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Today’s episode is Part 2 of my interview with Dr. Tod Stillson. Tod is a family physician who discovered that he could improve his autonomy and increase his income by incorporating and switching from employee to micro-corporation owner. In Episode 374 we learned that 10 years ago he discovered he could practice under a professional services agreement with the hospital system, so he incorporated and began working as a mini-corporation.

We pick up the interview with Tod, who explains how he shifted from employment to working using a professional services agreement. Then, he discusses a variety of benefits that you can access under this new model.

We also discuss the free and paid resources available to help physicians including his book, Doctor Incorporated: Stop the Insanity of Traditional Employment and Preserve Your Professional Autonomy, a blog, a membership program, free e-books, and consultation services.

Before closing, we discuss other options for physicians seeking more fulfillment and control, including direct primary care and other cash-only practices, and compare them to the microcorporation employment-lite approach to contracting with an employer.

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Dr. Tod Stillson earned his medical degree at the Indiana University School of Medicine. He then completed a Family Medicine Residency and a one-year fellowship focusing on Obstetrics at the Roanoke Memorial Hospital in Roanoke, Virginia.

He has practiced Family Medicine in North Central Indiana for almost 30 years, initially as an employee of the local hospital. About 10 years ago he discovered he could practice under a professional services agreement with the hospital system, so he incorporated and began working as a mini-corporation. That opened up many opportunities for him resulting in more autonomy and a higher income.

He has now created several resources to help educate other physicians about incorporating and contracting with employers in this new way. These include a book called Doctor Incorporated: Stop the Insanity of Traditional Employment and Preserve Your Professional Autonomy, a blog, a membership program, free e-books, and consultation services.

This week’s podcast is Part 1 of the 2-Part interview, which concludes with Episode 375 of the Physician Nonclinical Careers Podcast in one week.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/win-as-a-micro-corporation/ 

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This is Part 2 of our interview with Dr. Debra Blaine. Dr. Debra Blaine is a retired family physician who has always wanted to be a novelist. So she began writing and published her first book a few years ago using a hybrid publisher. Following that experience, she decided to learn how to self-publish.

She has now written seven books, publishing most of them herself. She now helps other authors write and self-publish their books. Her most recent book is a self-published book about self-publishing.

In today’s episode, we close the interview as Debra explains how she helps her clients develop and write their novels and nonfiction books.

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Dr. Debra Blaine is a retired family physician who has always wanted to be a novelist. So she began writing and published her first book a few years ago using a hybrid publisher. However, she was frustrated by the costs and long publication process required using a hybrid.

She continued writing books and taught herself how to self-publish both fiction and nonfiction books. She has now written seven books and helps other authors write and self-publish their books. Her most recent book is a self-published book about self-publishing.

Today she returns to the podcast to share what she has learned with you. And to try to convince you to write and self-publish your book as a way to promote your clinical or nonclinical business.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/how-to-publish-a-book/ 

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Today I want to provide an update on the part-time work providing remote collaboration and supervision. This is also known as working as a remote medical director. One of the attractive parts of this job is that you are paid for being AVAILABLE for collaboration. So, you can generate income while doing other things to some extent.

It’s something that I have been doing for the past 2 ½ years. I've been the medical director for a new urgent care network since 2014. Four years ago I began cutting back on my clinic hours and completely withdrew 2 years ago from direct patient care. However I still serves as remote medical director, collaborating as needed with APNs and PAs, updating policies, reviewing charts, and performing other medical director duties.

In today’s presentation, I focus on providing these services through third-party companies that find opportunities for collaborating physicians, connecting them with healthcare organizations that need help. This presentation is the recording of a Q&A Session held in January of this year. You can learn about these free sessions by signing up for my emails at nonclinicalphysicians.com/dailyemail.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/remote-collaboration/

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Emma Nichols, PhD, first appeared on the PNC podcast to discuss one of the most popular freelance nonclinical jobs available to physicians and other clinicians: medical writing. In today’s replay from 2018, we’re provided a comprehensive overview of freelance medical writing.

Emma has a doctorate in molecular biology and started writing professionally early in her career. She quickly became a seasoned medical communications professional specializing in continuing medical education and medical news writing. Her company, Nascent Medical, now provides expert medical writing services through its team of experienced MD- and PhD-level writers.

In addition to being a seasoned medical writer, she has been teaching others how to set up and market their own medical writing businesses through her Six-Week Course on Freelance Medical Writing. In fact, several of my podcast guests have completed her course prior to starting their own medical writing careers.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/be-a-freelance-medical-writer/ 

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This week, John focuses on one of the 3 popular nonclinical careers he discussed in last week’s episode, that of hospital Chief Medical Officer (CMO).

He uses the 100 Top Hospitals Award as a model for physicians to identify the expertise they should develop to fulfill the role of CMO. He describes the components of the Top 100 Hospital Award:

• Mortality Rate
• Complication Rate
• Healthcare Associated Infection Rate
• 30-Day Mortality Rate
• 30-Day Readmission Rate
• Length of Stay
• Spending Per Beneficiary
• Expense Per Discharge
• HCAHPS (Patient Satisfaction) Scores
• Adjusted Operating Profit Margin

Looking at this list, in most hospitals the CMO is the professional with the training and experience most able to address the first 6 items. Knowing that, it behooves physicians planning to seek a CMO role to develop experience in hospital quality improvement and patient safety, utilization management, coding and documentation, infection prevention, and information management.

During this short tutorial, John describes how physicians can efficiently develop those skills through part-time volunteer and paid roles in their hospitals using this model to direct them.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/best-cmo-leading-a-top-100-hospital/

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This week, John describes why it is natural to want to “level up” your career once you have accomplished all you want to do as a clinician, using professional athletes and attorneys as examples. Leveling up is a process of taking your career to the next level by building on your education, training, and experience to a new level of satisfaction and income.

He does this by selecting and describing the 3 most popular full-time nonclinical careers. Each year thousands of physicians are recruited for these positions. They generally offer excellent benefits, competitive salaries, and room for advancement.

John describes their pros and cons and lists resources to use to find and land your first job. For those who don’t want to spend 6 to 12 months researching all possible options, focusing on these jobs in the hospital, biopharma, and health insurance industries will help accelerate your transition.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/popular-full-time-careers/

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Dr. Armin Feldman is a psychiatrist who learned to work with attorneys as an expert witness early in his career. After selling a nationwide network of head injury rehabilitation centers, he focused on helping attorneys with pre-trial consultations to help with their cases to obtain better settlements, and more appropriate medical care for their clients.

About 16 years ago he began teaching other physicians how to duplicate his pre-litigation, pretrial medical legal consulting business. Through his coaching and support, he instructs physicians on the medicine involved, and the marketing, operational, legal, and financial aspects necessary to create a viable consulting business.

In this classic replay from 2021, he explains what he does, how it is different from expert witness consulting, and why it has become so popular. He also explains how his medical legal consulting coaching works and how to reach him to learn more about it.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/best-new-physician-consulting-business.

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Dr. Sue Zimmerman is an orthopedic surgeon who appeared on the podcast to discuss how she planned for her transition out of traditional medicine after 24 years. She had the foresight to engage a career coach before she needed to shift gears.

When the time came, she applied a strategy that worked brilliantly for her: find several part-time jobs that aligned with her vision and skills. In her case, that meant knitting together writing, editing, teaching, and providing nonsurgical orthopedic services. The result was a balanced, interesting, fulfilling, and productive lifestyle.

In today’s replay from 2018, Sue explains how she pulled this off, offering advice, encouragement, and specific tactics for listeners to apply.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/writing-teaching-and-limiting-clinical/

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You will apply your medical education and experience to generate a great income and balanced lifestyle, regardless of your specialty. And this work can be done as a part-time gig, in lieu of retiring, or even full-time.

Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching.

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Dr. Judy Finney is an interventional cardiologist who appeared on the podcast to discuss the amazing field of Life Insurance Medicine in 2018. During this interview, Judy described why she decided to leave clinical medicine, how she quickly landed a job at a life insurance company, and why she loves what she is doing.

She also lists several resources and tips to help you find and pursue your first medical director position.

At the time of our interview, she was serving as an Associate Medical Director. Since then, she moved on to a Medical Director position for 2 years before accepting a position as Vice President for a major mutual insurance company earlier this year.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/amazing-field-of-life-insurance-medicine/

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Dr. Michelle Mudge-Riley is a physician career coach, consultant, entrepreneur, and leader. She’s also an expert in Global Strategy Development, Clinical Research, and Project Management in the Biopharma Industry.

She is also schooled in physician career transition, partly because her career has continued to evolve extensively over the past 20 years since completing her clinical education. She has been a guest on the PNC podcast several times, last appearing in 2021.

She worked part-time in the biopharma industry for several years, then she decided almost 5 years ago to pursue a full-time position in the industry. She now serves as Medical Director in the Medical Affairs Division of an international biopharmaceutical company focused on finding treatments for rare diseases.

During our discussion, Michelle explained why she loves working in the BioPharma Industry. Then she shares tips for finding your first Industry job, and mistakes to avoid while engaged in your search. 

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/priceless-advice-from-an-expert/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

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Dr. Lara Hochman previously appeared on the show in 2022. She is returning to the show now to update us on her business as the Medical Matchmaker between physicians and medical practices, and to share her advice about finding a new practice.

Since her previous visit, she continues to practice medicine, while helping make these connections. During her matchmaking process, she vets the physicians and the practices she is referring them to. As a result, she has learned much about what to look for on both sides of the process.

She recently created The Stress-Free Physician Career Guide, a 5-step FREE resource for physicians. It is designed to help doctors find a physician-friendly private practice where they can focus on patient care without burnout or moral injury.

During our discussion, Lara provided us with her encouragement and advice for physicians who want to find the perfect practice, whether they wish to remain an employee or become a practice partner.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/seeking-a-new-practice/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

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Today I present Part 2 of the classic interview from 2019. In this show, Dr. Andrew Wilner, author of The Locum Life, describes why he loves medical writing and locum tenens as career options.

In Part 1 last week, we learned how he became a neurologist and epileptologist who spent years as a full-time medical writer. Now he is Associate Professor of Neurology at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center where he provides direct patient care and teaches neurology residents on the inpatient and outpatient services.

He also hosts a podcast called The Art of Medicine. And he has written a book called The Locum Life: A Physicians Guide to Locum Tenens, the definitive resource on this topic.

In Part 2 we’ll get much more into locum tenens work, and how he took what he learned to write The Locum Life. With that as an introduction, we will pick up where we left off with Andrew getting back into clinical medicine after a ten-year hiatus.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/medical-writing-to-the-locum-life/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

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Today I present another classic interview, this time from 2019. In this show, Dr. Andrew Wilner, author of The Locum Life, describes why he loves medical writing and locum tenens as career options.

In Part 1, Andrew recalls how much he loved writing, and how he felt compelled to get back into writing after completing his initial medical training. Andrew describes his journey from internal medicine in the U.S., to neurology training in Canada, and from clinical medicine to full-time medical writer. We also hear about his very early locums position working in an emergency room.

During our conversation, he described the exact approach that enabled him to write for multiple medical publications, while remaining current in his specialty of Neurology. In Part 2 we’ll get much more into locum tenens work, and how he took what he learned to create his recently released book.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/blend-medical-writing-and-the-locum-life/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

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Dr. Phil Boucher completed medical school and pediatric residency at the University of Nebraska Medical Center. He has been in private practice since 2014. He was first featured on the PNC Podcast in December of 2020. He is known for integrating cutting-edge technologies in medical offices, whether to communicate better with patients, improve productivity, or market the practice.

In today’s interview, Dr Phil Boucher returns to the podcast to address two updates. First, he describes how he decided to open his own Direct Primary Care Practice in 2022. He explains that it takes more planning and managing than working as an employee in a large group. But there are many benefits, which he describes during our conversation.

We spend the remaining time discussing his new side business. It grew out of a desire to address 2 problems facing many small medical practices:

• filling schedule openings due to cancellations without using up staff to call patients
  on a waiting list (OpenSpot at findopenspot.com), and
• helping new practices generate more leads during the early years by automating new
  patient engagement (Practice Leads at getpracticeleads.com).

Phil describes the process he went through to develop both tools. And he explains how he was able to generate seed money by joining Founder University and applying to other start-up accelerators.

To get a glimpse of how Phil’s practice works, check out his practice website at FrontierPediatric.Care. 

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/private-practice-of-the-future/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

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Today I present another classic interview from 2020. In this show, Dr. Emily Woolcock describes why she loves being an Independent Medical Examiner.

Dr. Woolcock is an internationally recognized speaker, best-selling author, mentor, and consultant. She is board-certified by the American Board of Orthopedic Surgery and the American Board of Independent Medical Examiners. And she is among the country’s most well-known and respected orthopedic surgeons.

In 2016 she established the IME Academy where she teaches students to perform defensible, literature-based independent medical examinations (or IMEs). Emily is passionate about helping other physicians break free from the devastating work/life balance issues she experienced early in her career.

In today’s interview, you will hear why this career option is so attractive to many physicians. As an IME, you can apply your medical knowledge and experience. The income is very good. However, the stress level is low and the risk of finding yourself in a medical liability lawsuit is
negligible.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/how-to-become-an-ime/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

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One of the first interviews devoted to the pharma industry featured Dr. Laura McKain in September 2021. Dr. McKain received her medical degree from Georgetown University in Washington, DC, and completed her training in obstetrics and gynecology at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond, Virginia.

She was in private practice for over twelve years where her clinical interests included wellwomen care, contraception, HPV, menopause management, as well as general and high-risk obstetrics. In 2008 she transitioned her career to the pharmaceutical industry where she was involved in clinical development projects encompassing a broad range of therapeutic areas. She was involved in bringing two new therapeutics to market.

She recently retired from full-time work and is now focused on helping other physicians find new nonclinical careers. She is a career coach and resumé expert at mckainconsulting.com. Laura is the founder of the Physician Nonclinical Career Hunters Facebook Group. With almost 30,000 members, it is the premier group where physicians connect with other physicians, share advice, find job openings, and obtain valuable advice and mentorship about nonclinical careers.

In today’s interview, Laura and I will be talking about strategies for finding a pharma job in the area of Clinical Development.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/land-a-pharma-clinical-development-job/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

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John Jurica completed his medical degree at the University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana, and his Family Medicine Residency at the University of Illinois at Rockford. While in practice he completed a Master’s Degree in Public Health at the Medical College of Wisconsin.

He began doing side jobs while in practice as a hospital utilization management physician advisor and a medical director for a family planning clinic and an occupational medicine clinic. He worked as the VP for Medical Affairs and then full-time as the Chief Medical Officer for a 300-bed independent nonprofit hospital outside of Chicago Illinois, leaving clinical medicine completely for 4 years. He now works part-time as a co-owner and Medical Director for an urgent care network.

In 2017, he began producing a weekly podcast called Physician Nonclinical Careers with John Jurica, where he presents interviews and solo episodes addressing physician burnout and moral injury, unconventional jobs and careers for physicians, and related topics. He also runs mastermind groups, annual live online summits, and an online platform the Nonclinical Career Academy and MemberClub.

In today’s show, John describes in detail what the Academy is, how it has evolved over the years, and what it can do for clinicians who want to leverage their training and experience in nontraditional ways. He explains how the MemberClub component of the NCA provides the most value for those who wish to learn as much as possible about career transition in a convenient, safe, and affordable environment. 

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/nonclinical-career-academy/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

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Dr. Mark Olszyk completed his medical degree at the Columbia University Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York City, and a residency in Emergency Medicine at the Naval Medical Center in San Diego. He completed his MBA in 2006. He is a Certified Physician Executive through the Certifying Commission in Medical Management.

He practiced emergency medicine before taking on management and leadership positions in a variety of settings. For the past 11 years, he has served as the Chief Medical Officer for Carroll Hospital in Westminster, Maryland.

In 2023, working with the American Association for Physician Leadership’s publishing arm, Mark brought together a team of experts to write and edit The Chief Medical Officers’ Essential Guidebook. As Dr. Peter Angood, AAPL CEO, writes in the forward to the book, ”The book was written for those interested in pursuing, refining, or hiring the role of chief medical officer…The authors provide a timely and well-constructed treatise on the many aspects of being, or becoming, a successful CMO…In short, there is no other resource in the market on this topic that can rival the thoroughness and completeness of the book.”

In today’s interview, Mark shares the story of his leadership journey and the challenges of editing the Guidebook. He also shares advice for fledgling physician leaders based on the book and his personal experiences leading healthcare organizations.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/outstanding-cmo/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

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Dr. Tom Davis is a business owner, consultant, author, and expert in telemedicine practice. He is a board-certified family physician who grew his practice over 16 years into a regional health system. Then he and his partners merged with a competitor in 2012 and cashed out.

After the merger, he worked as an employee for the new entity but then discovered that he and corporate medicine were not a good fit. So, he quit to become a freelance consultant and author.

He developed expertise in running a telemedicine practice, and systems to optimize it. He now teaches and consults on telemedicine. He also developed a thriving consulting business helping health systems, physician groups, and venture capital firms develop new programs to support value-based care initiatives.

Today’s show presents a lecture Tom gave during the 2023 Nonclinical Career Summit. In this presentation, Tom shares his understanding of the consulting business and the methods he used to succeed, with specific tactics to attract and serve venture capital firms.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/consultant-to-venture-capital-firms/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

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Dr. Jennie Byrne completed her MD and PhD in Neurophysiology at the NYU Grossman School of Medicine. She completed her psychiatry residency at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai. She has worked in many roles during her long career and continues to practice psychiatry part-time. She has held advisory and executive leadership roles as well.

Dr. Byrne is the founder and CEO of Constellation PLLC and the Co-Founder and Advisor at Belong Health. She has been called a “Triple Threat” because of her work as a physician leader, a healthcare executive, and an entrepreneur. She is a brain and behavior specialist with extensive training and experience in psychiatry, psychotherapy, and neuroscience.

Her book Moral Injury: Healing the Healers illuminates the often-overlooked concept of moral injury, offering a fresh perspective on the challenges facing healthcare professionals today. Dr. Byrne asserts that the issue lies not in individuals' resilience but in the systemic factors perpetuating moral injury within healthcare systems. Drawing parallels between healthcare and other workplaces, the book highlights the damaging consequences of outdated models and language.

During our interview, Dr. Byrne describes the hallmark features of moral injury and provides examples of colleagues, clients, and patients who have experienced it. She offers a metaphor for understanding moral injury. She closes our interview with examples of ways to help others overcome moral injury at both a personal level and as leaders in a large organization.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/overcome-moral-injury/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

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Dr. Sylvie Stacy received her medical degree from the University of Massachusetts Medical School. She then completed her Master’s Degree in Public Health and her Public Health and General Preventive Medicine Residency at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

She is a dually board-certified addictionologist and preventive medicine specialist with nearly a decade of experience in correctional healthcare. She has held nonclinical jobs in medical writing, medical education, utilization management, and clinical documentation improvement. She also hosted a popular website and blog dedicated to nonclinical and nontraditional careers for physicians that she has since sold. She wrote and published her first book, 50 Nonclinical Careers for Physicians: Fulfilling, Meaningful, and Lucrative Alternatives to Direct Patient Care, in 2020.

Earlier this year she released her follow-up book, 50 Unconventional Clinical Careers for Physicians: Unique Ways to Use Your Medical Degree Without Leaving Patient Care. In today’s interview, we will catch up with her since her appearance on the podcast in June of 2018, and learn about her new book.

During our interview, Sylvie explains why she wrote her new book and describes several of the unconventional clinical careers she wrote about. Finally, she provides advice for thriving in an unconventional clinical career.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/unconventional-clinical-careers/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

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Dr. Maria Abunto is the Senior Manager of Medical Science Liaisons at Exact Sciences, a molecular diagnostics company specializing in the detection of early-stage cancers. Before that, she was a Global Medical Science Liaison for Stryker.

She previously worked as an epidemiologist and investigator for the NIH and as a medical scientific expert on the IRB at a large children’s hospital. She holds a master’s degree in public health from the University of Pittsburg and completed her medical degree at the University of the East in Manila, Philippines.

Maria has been an active member of the Medical Science Liaison Society, and mentors other physicians interested in pursuing jobs as an MSL. She frequently lectures on the topic. Because of her expertise, she was asked to present at the 2023 Nonclinical Career Summit on this topic. Today’s podcast episode is an excerpt from that lecture. In it, she describes the duties of an MSL, the pros and cons of the job, the salary to be expected, and tips for pursuing your first position as an MSL.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/first-nonclinical-msl-job/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

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Dr. Sharon Hull is a family physician who has navigated several major career transitions. She started in private practice, moved into medical education, and has taken on multiple leadership positions.

Along the way, she completed a master’s degree in public health and other certifications. She worked in several leadership positions for 12 years at the Southern Illinois University College of Medicine. Then she moved to Northeastern Ohio Medical University in various academic roles. She later moved to Duke University School of Medicine, first as Chief of Family Medicine, completing her tenure there as Founding Director of the Executive Coaching Program. She started her coaching and consulting business in 2011, focusing on executive coaching, and is a Professional Certified Coach (PCC) through the International Coaching Federation.

In today’s episode, Sharon explains the importance of being intentional about developing your “career by design,” how to begin the process by defining what matters to you, and other concepts described in her new book Professional Careers by Design: A Handbook for the Bespoke Life.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/what-matters-most/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

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Dr. Nneka Unachukwu has been a guest on the Physician Nonclinical Career Podcast several times, with the last visit in 2022. She is a pediatrician who built a large practice using business and marketing practices that she now teaches to other physicians.

She received her medical degree from the University of Nigeria College of Medicine and completed her pediatrics residency at Newark Beth Israel Medical Center.

Dr. Una founded EntreMD several years ago and is on a mission to help 100,000 physicians build profitable 7 and 7+ figure businesses so they have the freedom to live life and practice medicine on their terms. She accomplishes that mission by coaching, speaking, writing, and helping physicians worldwide build businesses, develop multiple income streams, love their careers, and leave a legacy.

She hosts the weekly EntreMD Podcast. She produces The Visibility Formula Workshop for Physician Entrepreneur and the EntreMD Business School. In this week’s interview, we discuss her new book. And she shares her tips for becoming known using her visibility formula.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/visibility-formula/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

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Dr. Nerissa Kreher is a pediatric endocrinologist and the Chief Medical Officer at a biotech company. She received her medical degree from East Carolina University. She then pursued her pediatric residency and pediatric endocrinology fellowship at Indiana University School of Medicine.

She transitioned into the biopharma industry early in her career and brings 18 years of experience working in biopharma. She has worked in small to large biotech/pharma organizations including both private and public companies. Along the way, she also completed an MBA from Northeastern University.

She presented at the 2023 Nonclinical Career Summit on the topic of finding and pursuing your first job in the biopharmaceutical industry. Today’s podcast episode is the first half of her presentation. In it, she described the positions that are best suited for practicing physicians to pursue, once they decide to move into a nonclinical pharma job.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/best-biopharma-positions/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

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In this episode, John provides an overview of the upcoming Nonclinical Career Summit, being held on April 16, 17 and 18, 2024. This is a live event, offering 4 lectures with a Q&A over 50-minute sessions each evening.

This year’s content starts with a focus on discovering whether it is possible to remain in clinical medicine when faced with dissatisfaction or outright burnout while in practice. Several lectures are dedicated to ways to provide medical care that is fulfilling and meaningful while maintaining control and balance in the clinician’s life.

Several specific examples of cash-only practices and health-related businesses, such as a weight loss clinic, MedSpa, and Infusion Lounge are presented. And there is a focus on protecting yourself legally while creating an asset that can be sold at the appropriate time.

Finally, four nonclinical part-time side gigs are discussed, including 3 types of popular freelance consulting businesses and using real estate investing as another strategy for generating income and creating assets.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/make-your-clinical-practice-great/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

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Joe McMenamin is a physician attorney. He obtained his medical degree and his doctorate of jurisprudence at the University of Pennsylvania. He has spent most of his professional life practicing medical and healthcare law. He has been a digital health advisor, AI advisor, and speaker on these and other topics. He is also one of the 12 speakers at the live 2024 Nonclinical Career Summit to be held in April.

During today’s interview, Dr. McMenamin provides his thoughts on the topic of work as a medical expert witness. He begins by explaining why he decided to pursue a law degree and career after completing his residency. Then he explains the different types of expert witnesses, and where the medical expert witness fits into the legal system, based on years of experience engaging his own expert witnesses and cross-examining opposing experts.

He also describes what is expected of physician expert witnesses and his advice on pursuing such a role as a consulting and/or testifying expert. We close our conversation with Joe’s advice for practicing physicians who may be considering the pursuit of a law degree.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/new-expert-witness/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

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Dr. Jennifer Allen is a board-certified Family Physician who graduated from Oceania University of Medicine in 2012 and completed residency training at Mercy Hospital St. Louis in 2015. Prior to becoming a physician, she was a family nurse practitioner. Kimberly Lowe, BSN received her Bachelor of Science degree in Nursing in 2015. With over 15 years of experience, she has practiced in a wide variety of settings.

Four years ago, Dr. Allen and Kimberly Lowe discovered that they both had a vision for creating a clinic experience with an upbeat, joyful atmosphere that would bring in the latest in unique medical treatments. So they created their Infusion Lounge where they offer integrative medicine services that encompass diet and lifestyle medicine.

Their clinics today are recognized as the most refreshing medical offices in their part of Missouri, offering services in regenerative medicine, FDA-approved non-medicinal pain management treatments, bio-identical hormone optimization, anti-aging skincare, body sculpting, and other med-spa services.

In today’s interview, Jennifer and Kimberly describe what an Infusion Center is, and how they built their network of clinics over the past 4 years. They provide insights for other clinicians thinking about venturing into the world of medical and spa-like services outside of the traditional high-volume, insurance-driven medical-industrial complex. 

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/infusion-lounge/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

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Dr. Jonathan Vitale presented one of the most popular lectures at the first Nonclinical Career Summit in April 2023. For this week’s podcast episode, we are posting Part 1 of that lecture.

During this presentation, Dr. Vitale describes his background as a Family Physician and his work in Utilization Management for the past 7 years. He explains the duties of a UM Medical Director and why it is a popular nonclinical career option.

Then he spells out how physicians can obtain relevant experience part-time while still working clinically. He closes this session by describing in detail how to apply for their first full-time job in the field.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/first-utilization-management-job/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

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Dr. Lara Salyer described her career journey from rural Family Physician to Functional Medicine Practitioner on the PNC Podcast in 2019. Since that time, Lara has continued to grow and diversify her practice.

In addition to bringing all the best of her allopathic and integrative aspects of care to her patients, Lara is also on a mission to help practitioners redesign their work/life with more creativity and less burnout. She produces online business courses and received certification from the Flow Research Collective to offer mentorship assistance in creating flow-channeled, anti-burnout careers.

Lara now offers her Catalyst Studio™ mentorship to support medical entrepreneurs build their own unique micropractice. And she hosts The Catalyst Podcast in which she chats with interesting guests across the globe as they re-imagine better healthcare.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/integrating-the-best/

You can learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

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Reserve your FREE SPOT on this year's Nonclinical Career Summit RIGHT HERE!

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Dr. Chelsea Turgeon provided a fantastic lecture for last year’s Nonclinical Summit. As I was preparing for this year’s 2024 Summit in April, I thought you would genuinely appreciate hearing part of that presentation here on the podcast.

She starts by explaining how she recognized her poor fit for a career in medicine in medical school and residency. Much of it was because of her need to meet the expectations of others in her life, rather than pursuing her passions. But the longer she stayed in medicine, the more miserable she became.

What began as a 5-week leave of absence became a permanent exit from her OB/gyne residency. She goes on to describe her journey, first teaching English in South Korea, to becoming a Digital Nomad, starting her own business, and generating a six-figure income while living in 20 different countries.

She finishes her presentation by describing how she and others found meaningful work while living the most interesting and fulfilling life she could imagine.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/digital-nomad/

Our guest this week was working as a dentist when her entrepreneurial instincts kicked in. She created a very successful referral-based dental clinic, then a professional dance company, followed by a business coaching company for dentists. After that, she developed a social media agency with 14 full-time employees, which later morphed into her current business Unleashing Influence, Inc.

Dr. Angela Mulrooney completed her Doctorate in Dental Medicine at the University of Saskatchewan and ran her own practice from 2009 until 2015 in Calgary, Alberta. She now helps clients pivot to entrepreneurship, leverage their expertise, and do work they love from any location they choose while earning more.

During our interview, Angela tells us her unique story, including her experiences as a consultant and coach helping other clinicians build their own businesses. She also explains how marketing using LinkedIn drives much of her own business, and how you can do the same.

Before exiting the interview, she has encouraging words for physicians who are frustrated, bored, or disillusioned with working in the corporate healthcare system.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/create-your-ideal-life/

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You can learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

Physicians leave clinical medicine for a variety of reasons. Many leave due to burnout or job dissatisfaction. However, a small and growing number have been forced out of practicing medicine by a process called sham peer review.

Peer review is a legitimate process to protect patients in which fellow physicians on a hospital medical staff objectively review a physician’s work. But the process can also be used to falsely accuse physicians of poor performance to silence them and have them removed from the medical staff. The process almost always results in a National Practitioner Databank report, which makes it difficult to maintaining malpractice insurance coverage, and eventual rejection from payor physician panels.

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) and Dr. Lawrence R. Huntoon have spent the past twenty years fighting this unfair abuse of the peer review process. Dr. Huntoon is the Past President of the AAPS and has served as Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons since 2003. He has also been the Chairman of the AAPS Committee to Combat Sham Peer Review since 2004 and is an internationally recognized and court-qualified expert in sham peer review.

In this week’s interview, Larry describes how sham peer review works, and why it is so devastating to physicians. He also provides tips on how to lower your risk of sham peer review, recognize it early, and address it when it happens.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/sham-peer-review/ 

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One of the most common questions we get is whether there are health plan utilization management medical director jobs for specialists. It is a popular nonclinical job, and there is a widely held belief that only primary care physicians qualify.

This question and many others were addressed by my guest, Dr. Richard Berning, in May of 2019 for podcast episode 88. Today’s episode is the replay of that interview. Dr. Berning practiced pediatric cardiology for 20 years before deciding to leave clinical medicine and take his first job as a medical director for a large health plan. And in today’s interview, he explains why he loves that job. He also describes the requirements for landing the job, the usual job duties, and why it is open to both primary care physicians and specialists.

Rich also provides tips for obtaining applicable experience while still working clinically, and how to find that first full-time position as a medical director.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/medical-specialists-and-um-jobs/

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You can learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

Ethan Nkana founded his agency, Rocky Mountain Physician Agency, to honor his mother's legacy as an anesthesiologist by helping physicians like her earn the highest possible compensation in their employment agreements.

With his JD and MBA degrees and over 15 years of hospital executive experience in physician contracting, hospital operations, and human resources, he has a deep understanding of the complexities of physician employment agreements.

He has negotiated hundreds of physicians' contracts and his focus now is on helping physicians earn the highest salaries in the market while optimizing their entire benefits package.

In today’s interview, Ethan describes his experiences helping negotiate contracts and how he addresses salaries, noncompete clauses, tail coverage, and other critical issues. And he explains why it is critically important to negotiate the best possible employment contract possible.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/negotiate-a-great-contract/

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You can learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

In this week’s show, John interviews Dr. Morgan Leafe. Dr. Leafe is a board-certified pediatrician with over 20 years of experience in clinical practice and medical education. She received her medical degree from Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia, and a Master’s in Healthcare Administration (MHA) with an Informatics Concentration from St. Joseph’s University, also in Philadelphia. She is also board-certified in Clinical Informatics.

Morgan was very intentional about leaving clinical medicine and starting a freelance nonclinical career that allows her to work remotely, including while traveling. She chose to become a medical writer and started part-time about 5 years ago. Today she writes full-time, with a focus on writing for medical education companies, blogs, websites, life care planning organizations, board review companies, and others.

In today’s interview, Morgan describes her career journey and the types of writing that she does. She provides advice on how to explore and prepare for a career in medical writing, including the characteristics of each genre and how to use mentors and networking to find writing projects as a freelancer.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/love-medical-writing/

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You can learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

Is it still possible to open and run a successful private practice? With practices being bought out by large systems, and newly trained physicians choosing to begin their careers as employees, the private practice is disappearing. However there is a small but persistent group of physicians making it work. Concierge and DPC practices are also breathing life into the private practice.

One of the challenges to running a successful private practice is that most physicians do not have the business training to run a small business. While it does not require an MBA, there are basic business concepts that must be understood for any business to succeed. In this interview with Mr. Eric Miller, listeners will learn some of those basic principles, and how to find the help they need to start a practice and nurture it into a valuable asset.

Eric founded Econologics Financial Advisors in 2012. His tagline is “We turn practice owners into financial beasts: Debt Free. Protected. Invested. Set for Life.” He and his team have helped hundreds of healthcare practice owners learn to treat their practices as investments rather than jobs.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/valuable-business-asset/

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You can learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

When I began attending management meetings, I was hearing my fellow hospital executives talk about doing a “Swat” Analysis. I figured the term was borrowed from the concept of a Swat Team, since Swat Teams are police tactical units trained, equipped, and deployed to resolve "high-risk situations" quickly.

Later I came to understand that a SWOT Analysis was called that because it is the acronym for a study undertaken by an organization to identify its internal Strengths and Weaknesses, as well as its external Opportunities and Threats. Ideally, a SWOT Analysis is performed by a team, in which each participant brings their unique perspectives and backgrounds to produce a comprehensive list of the SWOT components that can be used to maximize the odds of success when developing a new service or product.

In this podcast episode, John posts a recording of a lecture he gave in which he described his experiences with participating in and running SWOT Analyses from 2 years ago. In it, he also describes how to translate the findings of an Analysis into a series of goals in which a strength or opportunity is used to overcome a threat or weakness. 

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/swot-analysis/

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You can learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.

Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.