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In and Out of Foster Care to CEO: I Broke the Patterns of My Past | Tristian Clark08 Jun 202601:18:22

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22-year-old entrepreneur and owner of Clark Construction, Tristan Clark. He's building a business to be proud of while coming from an almost impossible home life. Tristan Clark shares the challenges he overcame to get to where he is. From foster care, running from the police at age 8, to a shooting with prison on the horizon, to now flipping houses, building a rental portfolio, and a well-respected construction company.

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00:00 Intro
01:39 From Diesel to Concrete
04:18 The $125K Breakthrough
05:53 Spending Then Scaling Lessons
07:53 Downsizing for Margin
10:51 Scaling Stress and Overhead
16:15 Flip House Growing Pains
21:36 Hold vs Flip Debate
25:14 Scaling the Flip Machine
26:25 VAs and Backend Systems
32:48 Bad Attitudes and Boundaries
34:04 Firing My Own Dad
38:24 Mentors Filling the Gap
39:00 Taken Into Foster Care
43:03 Culture Shock in Adoption
47:27 ROTC Turning Point
52:06 Fatherhood Changed Me
52:39 Walking Away Downtown
56:58 Protecting My Siblings
59:37 Standing Up For My Brother
01:02:23 The Shooting And Jail
01:05:01 Lessons From Lockup
01:07:58 Cutting Toxic Ties
01:13:44 Second Chances And Grit
01:16:19 God's Plan Finale

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Build Wealth the Smart Way | Aaron Robertson16 Feb 202600:24:45

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In this episode, we dive into the core principles of achieving success through sheer hard work and unwavering discipline. We explore the powerful mindset required to overcome obstacles and maintain consistent hustle, drawing inspiration from various entrepreneurial journeys. This discussion provides practical motivation for anyone looking to elevate their work and reach their goals. Property management has the greatest advantage in building wealth through real estate. 

00:37 Starting the Property Management Journey

01:04 Challenges and Opportunities in Property Management

03:07 Acquiring Properties Through Management

08:12 Financial Strategies and Wealth Building

17:25 Market Trends and Economic Impact

21:51 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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The Heartbeat of Business Success | Peter Hernandez24 Feb 202500:59:54

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Figure this out, and your business will thrive. In this episode of 'Pay or Quit,' host Shawn Austin Johnson dives deep into the real challenges of business and relationships with special guest Peter Hernandez, founder of mypmh.com. From discussing the importance of culture and relationships in business to navigating the toughest moments as an entrepreneur, this conversation reveals indispensable insights into leadership, mentorship, and maintaining a thriving company culture.

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The Most Powerful Wisdom I've Collected Over 12 Years17 Feb 202500:19:21

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In this episode of Pay or Quit, I’m sharing the most powerful quotes I’ve collected over 12 years—wisdom that has shaped my journey as an entrepreneur. From legendary leaders to personal insights, these lessons will challenge your mindset, help you navigate risk, and push you toward financial and business success. Don’t just listen—take notes, apply the wisdom, and level up your entrepreneurial game! 🚀 

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Two Practical Paths to Financial Freedom10 Feb 202500:21:10

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Practical strategies for entrepreneurs to deploy their profits while growing their wealth.

Shawn Johnson shares a recent mentoring session he had with a friend who sought his advice on a current financial decision he was facing and his mindsets and strategies needed to achieve financial freedom. He shares insightful anecdotes and actionable advice, including leveraging home equity and exploring multiple income streams. Additionally, they present two contrasting financial plans, one inspired by Dave Ramsey's debt-free approach and another focused on strategic investments.

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00:00 Introduction to Pay or Quit
00:27 The Financial Hamster Wheel
00:43 Wealth Mindsets and Financial Foundations
02:57 Living Below Your Means
03:28 Multiple Sources of Income
04:14 The Importance of Financial Freedom
05:35 Belief in Financial Freedom
07:48 Deploying Your Bank Account
08:52 Home Equity and Investment Strategies
17:47 Dave Ramsey's Debt-Free Method
20:58 Conclusion and Next Steps

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Do you Have to Choose Between Success and Family? | Berenice Brito03 Feb 202500:38:59

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Balancing Success: Career, Relationships, and Entrepreneurship with Berenice Brito

Shawn Johnson, along with his guest, Berenice Brito, discuss the misconception that success in career and relationships can't coexist. Joined by guest Berenice Brito, a nurse turned coach, they explore overcoming limiting beliefs, the importance of setting boundaries, and sustainable business-building practices. Berenice emphasizes the significance of neuro-linguistic programming, time management, and prioritizing personal well-being alongside entrepreneurial pursuits. Tune in for practical advice on achieving work-life balance and building a successful business without unnecessary sacrifices.

00:00 Balancing Career and Relationships: The Myth of Sacrifice
00:37 Welcome to Pay or Quit: Meet Your Hosts
01:04 Introducing Berenice Brito: From Nursing to Coaching
02:05 The Power of Neuro-Linguistic Programming in Entrepreneurship
07:13 Creating Personal Boundaries for Success
15:51 Financial Strategies for Entrepreneurs
32:06 Consistency and Sustainable Growth in Business
35:26 Final Thoughts and Where to Find More

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Transforming Financial Defaults into Intentional Design06 Jan 202500:55:15

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Mastering Financial Freedom: The Intersection of Entrepreneurship and Personal Growth

In this episode, Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson discuss the importance of financial education, personal growth, and overcoming a 'happenstance lifestyle.' They reveal their strategies for transitioning from financial stress to generational wealth and the lessons they've learned through their entrepreneurial journeys. With a deep dive into concepts like product-market fit, risk assessment, and the four levels of value, Tony and Shawn provide actionable insights for entrepreneurs looking to navigate the tough intersection of business and relationships.

00:00 The Financial Education Crisis
00:44 Welcome to Pay Your Quick
02:19 Breaking Free from the 9 to 5
04:08 Living Life by Design
06:37 The Power of Personal Responsibility
10:18 Finding Your Product Market Fit
14:33 The Four Levels of Value
20:54 The Never-Ending Journey
25:10 The Psychology of Goal Setting
27:40 The Importance of Goal Sharing and Support Systems
28:29 Choosing the Right People to Share Your Goals With
31:57 Balancing Public Declarations and Private Goals
32:39 The Fear of Failure and Public Accountability
34:48 Quality vs. Quantity in Content Creation
48:40 Understanding Your Market and Customer Needs
51:45 Risk and Calculated Risk in Business
54:17 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections

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What It Takes To Be A Millionaire: 3 Principles to Becoming Rich24 Dec 202400:39:04

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Mastering Mindset and Financial Discipline for Wealth Building

A dive into essential principles for building and maintaining wealth. They discuss the importance of reshaping mindset, setting clear financial goals, and the power of compounding interest. They also cover strategies for reducing expenses, increasing income streams, and disciplined spending habits. The conversation highlights the balance between leveraging pain and pleasure for motivation and the importance of long-term financial planning.

00:00 Introduction to Mindset and Wealth
00:34 Welcome to the Entrepreneurial Journey
01:06 Defining Riches vs Wealth
01:34 Setting Clear Financial Goals
01:51 The Power of Vision Boards
03:53 Emotional Attachment to Goals
06:38 Adopting a Wealth Mindset
11:28 The Power of Compounding Interest
17:42 Planning for Retirement in Your Fifties
18:14 The Importance of Investing Now
18:43 Maximizing Income and Reducing Expenses
19:59 The Cost of Living and Financial Discipline
21:45 Leveraging Skills and Career Growth
27:45 Living Below Your Means
32:26 Pain and Pleasure as Motivators
35:24 Conclusion and Future Topics

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From Pastor to Entrepreneur: I Built a Thriving Business in a New Industry from Scatch | Cody Stovall16 Dec 202400:46:41

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Scaling a niche entertainment business in multiple cities:

Cody Stovall, a pastor who turned his passion for escape rooms into a thriving business. Cody shares the challenges he faced in opening venues, dealing with family business dynamics, and navigating the uncertainties of the COVID-19 pandemic. He emphasizes the importance of market research, customer experience, and the grit required to overcome significant setbacks. From his innovative approach in the escape room industry to the strategic decisions that shaped Escapology's success, Cody's story is a testament to entrepreneurial resilience.

01:31 Launching Escapology Franchise
02:58 What is an Escape Room?
05:36 The Passion Behind the Business
06:47 Market Research and Franchising
10:08 Navigating COVID-19 Challenges
13:39 Balancing Passion and Business
16:52 The Future of the Escape Room Industry
19:24 Category Creator and Amplifying Impact
23:48 Optimizing Escape Room Spaces
25:20 Marketing to Existing Customers
27:29 Enhancing Customer Experience
33:42 Challenges in Business Operations
38:09 Overcoming Moments of Doubt
43:44 Connecting with the Community

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Helicopter Sales CEO: How Grit Got Me to the TOP Disrupting an Industry | Halsey Schider09 Dec 202400:49:50

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From Professional Helicopter Pilot to Successful CEO

Entrepreneur Halsey Schider shares his journey from being a professional helicopter pilot to founding Sellacopter, a breakout helicopter sales company that is disrupting the helicopter sales space, and now they are branching into the jet and airplane sales industry.

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00:00 Overcoming the Fear of Failure
00:38 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest
01:43 Halsey's Entrepreneurial Journey
03:09 The Birth of a Helicopter Business
05:04 Challenges and Lessons Learned
07:37 Navigating the Helicopter Industry
10:06 The Reality of Entrepreneurship
20:07 Balancing Life and Business
26:12 Balancing Business and Personal Life
28:26 Generating Leads and Building Relationships
29:37 The Power of Cold Calling
32:21 Ultra Running and Business Parallels
39:16 The Importance of Rest and Recovery
40:38 The Impact of Podcasting on Business
42:43 Expanding into Aircraft Brokerage
45:28 Final Thoughts and Farewell

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Are You Making This Fatal Business Error That's Killing Your Business?03 Dec 202400:30:53

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Why Small Businesses Fail: The Gritty Truth

In this episode, Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson explore the common reasons why small businesses fail, drawing insights from a local restaurant's closure. They discuss the importance of leadership, customer engagement, and avoiding burnout. They also stress the need to innovate continuously, understand customer needs, and seek mentorship. The episode is a detailed discussion aimed at helping entrepreneurs navigate the difficult journey of starting and sustaining a business.

00:00 Introduction: The Struggles of Entrepreneurs
00:49 Welcome to Pay or Quit
01:16 A Personal Story of a Local Business Closure
02:32 Analyzing the Reasons Behind Business Failures
04:33 The Importance of Leadership and Customer Interaction
11:41 Statistics on Business Failures
23:39 Lessons Learned and Moving Forward
27:53 Conclusion: The Bigger Vision

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Master Delegation: Let Go of Control and See Your Business Scale25 Nov 202400:30:44

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Mastering Delegation: From Tasks to Leadership

In this episode, Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson discuss the importance of effective delegation for entrepreneurs, emphasizing the transition from managing everyday tasks to leading a team. Drawing on insights from Craig Greshel and Donald Miller, they explore how empowering employees with authority and autonomy can enhance business performance and growth. They also offer practical advice on setting clear expectations, creating KPIs, and maintaining open communication to ensure successful delegation.

00:00 Introduction and Key Quotes
00:51 Welcome to Pay Your Quick
01:18 The Importance of Delegation
02:49 Defining Tasks and Responsibilities
05:04 Empowering Your Team
12:42 Clear Communication and Expectations
17:21 Tracking and KPIs
24:29 Handling Questions and Building Autonomy
28:12 Conclusion and Teaser for Next Episode

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Flipping Houses at Scale Not Lifting A Hammer | Sam Eddinger10 Nov 202500:28:44

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In this episode, we dive into the strategic insights of a seasoned real estate investor and property manager. He shares valuable lessons on the importance of starting early, holding properties for the long term, and developing successful partnerships. The discussion covers scaling a house flipping business, leveraging property management resources, and employing effective financial strategies such as utilizing home equity lines of credit. Real-world examples and personal experiences highlight how disciplined saving, reinvestment, and vertically integrating business processes can lead to substantial wealth creation. Key takeaways include the benefits of long-term property holding, the power of compound growth, and the importance of aligning goals and values in business partnerships.


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00:36 Expert Insights: Flipping and Rentals
01:05 Scaling the Flip Business
02:57 Vertical Integration and Vendor Management
05:46 Partnerships and Leveraging People
10:00 Building Wealth Beyond Business
13:50 Financial Strategies and Risk Management
19:18 Property Management and Investment Synergy
25:23 Final Thoughts and Advice

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From Helicopter Pilot to Retired at 39 | Shawn Johnson28 Oct 202400:39:40

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Shawn Johnson: Financial Freedom, Leadership, and Overcoming Entrepreneurial Challenges

Exploring financial freedom, the journey from employee to entrepreneur, and the emotional trials of leadership. Insights on impactful leadership, personal growth, and mission-driven investments.

00:00 Navigating Life's Storms
00:37 Introduction to Pay or Quit
00:52 Meet Your Hosts: Tony and Shawn
01:21 Global Audience Shoutout
01:52 Shawn's Personal Journey
04:43 Financial Freedom and Purpose
06:44 Investment Strategies and Ethics
09:06 Challenges of Being a CEO
13:48 Dark Times and Emotional Struggles
18:53 Decision-Making in Business Partnerships
20:10 The Role of Mentorship in Success
22:58 Maintaining Productive Habits
26:15 Taking the Leap into Entrepreneurship
31:31 Overcoming Early Business Challenges
35:10 Looking Ahead: Future Goals and Aspirations
36:53 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

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Turning Trails into Triumph: How Courage Will Drive You Further Than Ever | Tony Cline21 Oct 202400:36:34

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Redefining Success: Courage, Health, and Financial Wisdom with Tony Cline

In this episode, Tony Cline delves into his redefined vision of success, emphasizing peace, morality, and quality of life. He shares his battle with celiac disease, detailing the misdiagnosis struggles and the importance of core values and courage in business. Tony reflects on pivotal life moments, the significance of consistent effort, and the lessons learned from mentorship and personal relationships. The conversation also highlights the importance of delegating, embracing discomfort, and the impact of a supportive community.

00:00 Defining Success: Inner Peace Over Wealth
00:44 Welcome to Pay or Quit: Meet Your Hosts
01:11 Tony's Interview: A Deep Dive into His Journey
02:21 Pivotal Moments: Personal and Entrepreneurial Challenges
02:48 Health Crisis: Battling Celiac Disease
04:35 Finding Solutions: The Road to Diagnosis
09:49 Delegation and Control: Lessons from Illness
12:28 Redefining Success: Peace and Values
15:29 Core Values: Courage and Belief Systems
18:25 Balancing Beliefs and Company Values
19:36 The Importance of Core Values in Business
21:31 Aligning Ambition with Personal Well-being
22:04 The Real Ultra Marathon: Growing a Podcast
23:19 Finding Your Tribe and Ambition
29:47 The Role of Family in Entrepreneurial Success
32:38 Advice to My Younger Self
34:31 Closing Thoughts and Gratitude

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From Impossible to Achievable: A World Record Mindset | Chad Hymas14 Oct 202400:44:47

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Chad Hymas: Transforming Tragedy into Triumph

In this thought-provoking episode, Chad Hymas shares his inspirational life story, beginning with a tragic accident that left him with severe disabilities. At the age of 27, a ranch mishap resulted in a broken neck, paralyzing Chad and confining him to a wheelchair. Instead of succumbing to despair, Chad chose to focus on his capabilities and positively impact others. He discusses the early days of his recovery, the crucial role his father played in his journey, and how he went on to set a world record by traveling 513 miles in a wheelchair from Salt Lake City to Las Vegas. Through overcoming immense challenges, Chad became a renowned speaker and mentor, touching lives worldwide with his message of resilience and positivity. Listeners are encouraged to draw inspiration from Chad's journey and re-evaluate their own perceived limitations.

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00:00 A Parent's Perspective on Tragedy
00:52 Chad Hymas: An Inspirational Journey
01:12 The Life-Altering Day
02:56 Ignoring Warning Signs
03:57 The Accident and Its Aftermath
04:29 Overcoming the Victim Mindset
05:22 The Power of Positive Influence
07:13 The Emotional Aftermath
08:44 Adapting to Change
10:40 The Importance of Perspective
18:52 Chad's Message to the World
22:03 Navigating Life's Challenges
23:12 Family and Fatherhood
23:28 Lessons in Leadership
26:55 A Father's Influence
28:58 Finding Purpose After Tragedy
33:56 Honoring a Mentor's Legacy
34:36 The Ultimate Marathon
42:25 Reflecting on the Journey

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Killing Complacency: From Alpaca Shearing to Real Estate Mogul | Marty Hofmann07 Oct 202400:44:00

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From Alpaca Shearing to Real Estate Investing and Beyond

In this episode, Marty Hofmann shares his journey from an agricultural upbringing to becoming a serial entrepreneur with ventures in real estate investment and alpaca shearing. Emphasizing the importance of mindset shifts and intentionality, Marty discusses his transition from traditional to entrepreneurial paths, the interplay between personal experiences and business pursuits, and how running marathons informs his approach to entrepreneurship. The episode also discusses the challenges of managing properties, leveraging assets for business growth, and maintaining work-life balance in entrepreneurial ventures.

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00:53 Marty's Background and Early Entrepreneurial Ventures
02:49 The Transition to Real Estate Investing
11:07 Challenges and Lessons in Property Management
14:15 The Power of Leverage in Real Estate
16:35 Balancing Debt and Investment Strategies
17:46 The Case for Leveraging Other People's Money
18:30 Leveraging Tenant's Money for Debt
18:38 Marriage Struggles and Financial Freedom
19:01 Getting on the Same Page with Your Spouse
19:33 Analyzing Real Estate Investments Together
20:53 Switching Gears: Building a Real Estate Portfolio
21:28 Starting a Podcast: Kill Complacency
21:42 Teaching Real Estate and Mindset Shifts
22:53 Running Marathons and Setting Big Goals
23:48 Mindset Shifts Through Running
25:08 Learning from Long-Distance Running
31:30 Entrepreneurial Struggles and Lessons
31:49 Deepest Darkest Moments as an Entrepreneur
34:29 The Reality of Entrepreneurship
35:13 Opportunities and Shiny Object Syndrome
38:10 Problem Solving in Business and Running
40:21 Contributions to the World and Final Thoughts

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Employee Retention Expert: Exact Formula So Your Employees Never Leave | Clint Pulver30 Sep 202400:50:08

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The Secret to Workforce Retention: Clint Pulver’s ‘I Love it Here’ and the Power of Mentorship

In this episode, Clint Pulver, Emmy Award winner, speaker, pilot, and author, discusses his book 'I Love It Here,' which reveals insights about effective leadership and employee retention. He shares how the Undercover Millennial Program helped him understand the reality of the workforce and bridge the gap between leaders and their employees’ experiences. Pulver emphasizes the importance of mentorship over management, augmenting leadership development, and recognizing employees' contributions. He recounts his journey of overcoming a debilitating eye condition to fulfilling his dream of flying and starting the Dream Machines Foundation, offering helicopter experiences for children with disabilities.

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00:00 Introduction: Capturing Workforce Reality
00:14 The Importance of Company Culture
00:47 Mentorship vs. Management
01:22 The Journey of Writing 'I Love It Here'
04:49 The Undercover Millennial Program
09:19 Universal Truths in Workforce Research
15:33 Growing People, Not Just Employees
17:25 The Power of Recognition
21:44 A Personal Story: The Drummer
24:11 Advocating for Employees: The Key to Loyalty
24:55 Building Momentum and Implementing Change
25:53 Consistency and Small Steps to Success
27:35 The Importance of Mentorship
30:27 Balancing Entrepreneurship and Personal Life
37:00 Overcoming Personal Challenges
37:42 Rediscovering a Lost Passion: Aviation
43:40 Creating Impact Through Dream Machines
45:58 Final Thoughts and Future Endeavors

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S1: E8 Spinning your wheels and can't gain traction. Do This02 Sep 202400:27:45

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The Gritty Truth: Success, Complacency, and Entrepreneurial Struggles

In the season finale of 'Pay or Quit,' hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson delve into the complex emotions and setbacks that come with both near wins and monumental successes. They explore how success can breed complacency, drawing parallels from sports to entrepreneurial ventures. The episode offers practical advice for overcoming complacency and spinning your wheels, from time-blocking strategies to maintaining focus. As they wrap up Season 1, the hosts hint at exciting plans and high-caliber guests for Season 2, promising deeper dives into the challenges and triumphs of entrepreneurship.

00:00 The Hidden Struggles of Success
00:53 Season One Finale
01:42 Success Breeds Complacency
03:50 Avoiding the Trap of Complacency
12:12 The Importance of Focus and Time Management
19:40 Only Do What Only You Can Do
22:19 Looking Forward to Season Two

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S1: E7 Asking For Feedback Can Turn Against You?26 Aug 202400:49:18

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Strategies for Effective Masterminds and Real Estate Investing

In this episode of 'Pay or Quit,' hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson delve into the importance of providing feedback and the best ways to share experiences rather than directives in professional settings. They introduce key elements of successful masterminds, emphasizing the significance of clear and common goals, structured meetings, relationship-building, and accountability. Additionally, they explore the benefits of one-on-one meetings in fostering strong company cultures and reducing turnover. 

The episode also provides valuable insights into the financial advantages of real estate investing, covering topics such as cash flow, appreciation, loan paydown, tax benefits, and leveraging inflation as a hedge. Listeners are encouraged to utilize these insights to elevate their status in the property management and real estate investing markets.

00:56 Today's Big Agenda
01:15 Mastermind Success Recipes
02:38 Structuring Effective Masterminds
05:26 Building Strong Mastermind Relationships
07:25 Setting Clear Goals and Accountability
13:29 Mastermind Meeting Frequency
17:54 Contributing and Commitment in Masterminds
26:42 Mastermind Success and Community
27:27 Six Critical Steps to Effective One-on-One Meetings
28:28 Defining and Conducting One-on-One Meetings
35:59 The Importance of Follow-Through in One-on-Ones
42:17 Investing in Real Estate: An Overview
42:38 Five Ways to Profit from Real Estate
50:30 Leveraging Opportunities in Property Management
53:35 Conclusion and Future Topics

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S1: E6 B Players Are Toxic in Your Business19 Aug 202400:57:50

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In this episode of 'Pay or Quit,' Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson dive deep into contentious business topics, including the impact of B players in a team, the advantages of value maxing over fee maxing, the importance of building a sales team, and the perils of boredom in business. Plus, Tony shares his experience with the Moab 240 race.

00:00 Introduction
02:13 Moab 240 Race Experience
07:24 B Players vs. A Players
21:41 Fee Maxing vs. Value Maxing
29:28 Building a Sales Team
47:45 Dangers of Boredom in Business

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S1: E5 The Secrets to Building a Championship Team12 Aug 202400:26:06

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In this episode of 'Pay or Quit,' hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson dive deep into the essential components of building a championship team in the business world. They start by discussing the foundational elements like mission, vision, and core values, explaining their critical role in setting the direction and aligning the company. The conversation then shifts to a comprehensive breakdown of the seven crucial components necessary for creating a winning team: the game plan, rule book, playbook, positions, players, equipment, and scoreboard.

Tony and Shawn share their own experiences from their time at HomeVault and other ventures, offering valuable insights into the challenges and triumphs they encountered. They emphasize the importance of having a clear mission and vision, creating policies before processes, and the significance of hiring the right people for the right roles. They also touch upon the pitfalls of promoting employees without proper training, known as the Peter Principle, and how it can affect team dynamics.

Join us for an engaging and insightful discussion that not only reveals the gritty truth behind business success but also provides practical advice for entrepreneurs looking to build and lead successful teams. Don't miss this episode filled with real-world stories and actionable strategies!

00:00 The Importance of Mission, Vision, and Core Values
00:34 Welcome to Pay or Quit: The Real Stories of Entrepreneurs
01:03 Challenges in Property Management: Key Topics
01:27 Building a Championship Team: The Seven Critical Components
02:07 The Role of Core Values in Business Success
04:29 The Game Plan: Foundation of a Successful Company
05:43 From Policies to Playbooks: Creating Effective Processes
11:41 The Importance of Roles and Responsibilities
19:44 Leadership One-on-One: Coaching and the Peter Principle
24:28 Conclusion: The Realities of Running a Property Management Company

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S1: E4 CEOs that Succeed Have These05 Aug 202400:52:46

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Welcome to Pay or Quit, the podcast where Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson dive deep into the real secrets of property management—from landlord-tenant relationships to investment strategies and everything in between. In this episode, we tackle the resilience of successful CEOs, future impacts of AI on business, building impactful marketing strategies, and the ins and outs of selling a property management firm.

🔥 **Topics Covered in This Episode:**

1. The key factors that determine CEO success, based on an extensive Harvard Business Review study.
2. Understanding AI's rapidly evolving role in business and reality.
3. Effective strategies for engaging your team and adapting to changes.
4. Maximizing the value of your property management firm when selling.
5. Types of property management entrepreneurs and their unique approaches to success.

👉 Whether you're a seasoned property manager or just starting out, Tony and Shawn provide valuable insights and actionable advice to help you thrive in your property management journey.

✍️ **Show Notes & Resources:**
- Harvard Business Review Study on CEO success: https://hbr.org/2017/05/what-sets-successful-ceos-apart 
- Real-world examples and personal anecdotes from Tony and Shawn.
- The referenced video from the 2008 Election and social media companies: https://youtu.be/IzF7nBmwPso?si=RJnH8CvzgWRfB07C

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00:00 Introduction to Vision and Communication
00:31 Welcome to Pay or Quit Podcast
00:59 Exploring the Future of Truth
06:01 Impact of AI on Business and Marketing
16:37 Planning Your Exit Strategy
25:51 The Importance of Reputation in Acquisitions
27:13 Types of Property Management Entrepreneurs
27:44 The Real Estate Agent Turned Property Manager
30:00 The Investor Turned Property Manager
31:07 The Franchise Owner's Dilemma
33:41 The Property Management Employee Turned Owner
34:25 What Sets Successful CEOs Apart
37:34 Deciding with Speed and Conviction
40:24 Engaging for Impact
43:37 Adapting Proactively
45:56 Delivering Reliability
49:07 Building Championship Teams
51:01 Episode Wrap-Up

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Why most businesses never break through (until they learn this) | Ben Serven03 Nov 202500:42:44

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Ben Serven, the founder of Black Sheep Global, discusses the transformative power of process optimization and automation in property management. Learn how to document, implement, and automate processes for long-term business growth, the importance of creating a positive company culture, and how to overcome common obstacles in adopting new technologies. Ben also shares insights into the essential role of principles, policies, and processes in business success and offers valuable tips for leveraging automation tools. Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just getting started, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you streamline operations and build a thriving, efficient organization.

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00:50 Introducing Ben Serven and Black Sheep Global
01:28 Streamlining Property Management
03:01 Creating Effective Processes
04:43 Principles, Policies, and Processes
06:45 Defining Core Values and Vision
09:22 The Importance of a Big Vision
14:49 Overcoming Resistance to Processes
20:28 Evaluating Automation in Property Management
24:45 Challenges in Faculty Management
25:06 The Persistence of Outdated Practices
26:56 Cultural Impact and Technological Adoption
28:51 Case Study: Blinds.com
30:15 High ROI Processes in Property Management
34:56 Document, Implement, Automate
40:14 Evaluating and Adopting New Software
48:10 The Importance of Culture in Business

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S1: E3 The Worst Property Manager, How Fee Maxing Ruined Property Management29 Jul 202400:33:31

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In this episode of the "Pay or Quit" podcast, hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson dive deep into the world of property management. The episode kicks off with a discussion on the critical importance of timing when introducing value-associated fees in property management, setting the stage for a broader conversation about industry practices.

After warmly welcoming listeners and sharing their excitement for the episode, Tony and Shawn introduce the main topics: the impact of fee maxing on the property management industry, the worst kinds of property managers, and their recent book reads. They argue that fee maxing, or the practice of maximizing fees without adequately increasing value, has damaged the industry by pushing landlords and tenants away.

The hosts propose a balanced approach of "value maxing," focusing on increasing the value delivered before raising fees. They share personal stories and business strategies, highlighting practices like tenant home tutorials that add value and justify higher fees.

The episode also features a lively debate on who makes the worst property manager, with the "opportunistic real estate agent" taking the top spot. Additionally, both hosts share their top book recommendations, including titles that provide insights into business strategies, personal growth, and cultural analysis.

The podcast wraps up with teasers for upcoming episodes, promising discussions on topics like triple ties in trademarks and the benefits of real estate investing.

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Blue Ocean Strategy by Chan Kim: https://a.co/d/5GGAus6

Free to Focus by Michael Hyatt: https://a.co/d/eo4sRh6

Black Rednecks & White Liberals by Thomas Sowell: https://a.co/d/50CWXIa

The Dream Manager by Matthew Kelly: https://a.co/d/clJHsc6

From Strength to Strength' by Arthur C. Brooks: https://a.co/d/dKLXf2R

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S1: E2 Navigating the Culture Clash: Mergers, Acquisitions, and the Pain of Integration22 Jul 202400:47:00

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Navigating the Complex World of Property Management

In this episode of 'Pay or Quit', hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson delve into crucial aspects of property management, emphasizing the importance of proper timing when implementing value-associated fees and the pitfalls of fee maxing in the property management industry. They explore how bad timing can leave landlords with negative experiences, leading them to either sell their investments or manage properties themselves. The discussion also covers why real estate agents attempting property management and landlords who don't treat their investments seriously make the worst property managers. Furthermore, the hosts share their insights into recent books they've read, highlighting themes like organizational growth, personal development, and strategic innovation in business. They tease future topics, including the intricacies of a specific trademark, multifaceted benefits of real estate investment, and setting effective company goals.

00:00 The Importance of Timing in Value-Associated Fees

00:21 Introducing 'Pay or Quit': The Property Management Podcast

00:45 Diving Into Today's Hot Topics in Property Management

01:44 The Personal Side: Running Ultra-Marathons and Building Value

03:45 The Controversial World of Fee Maxing in Property Management

04:23 Unpacking the Fee Maxing Strategy: A Deep Dive

07:23 The Impact of Legislation on Property Management Practices

11:40 A Personal Journey Through Fee Implementation and Its Effects

17:25 Maximizing Value: A Strategy Beyond Fees

18:24 Unpacking Value Maximization in Property Management

18:47 The Pitfalls of Fee Maximization and Its Impact

20:25 The Dream of Fluid Agreements in Property Management

23:34 The Worst Property Managers: A Candid Discussion

25:41 Expanding on the Worst Property Manager Traits

30:04 Diving Into Recent Reads: Strategy, Focus, and Insight

31:56 Personal Growth Through Literature: A Trail Runner's Perspective

35:51 Teasing Future Topics and Wrapping Up

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S1: E1 From Startup to 7-Figure Exit: Scaling A Property Management Empire11 Jul 202400:43:43

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Launching New Beginnings: A Dive into Business Ventures

This podcast episode marks the launch of a new series where the hosts (Tony Cline & Shawn Austin Johnson), two small business veterans, discuss their personal journeys, initial meetings, and shared experiences in the field, including starting and scaling property management firms, innovating within the industry, and navigating mergers and acquisitions. They reflect on the challenges and rewards of entrepreneurship, the intricacies of building and leading teams, dealing with regulations, and the impact of government interference in the property management sector. Additionally, they explore their post-property management ventures, such as consulting and real estate investing, underscoring the lessons learned and the value of innovation, mentorship, and the human element in business decisions.

Timestamps:
00:00 Launching the Podcast: A Trip Down Memory Lane
00:17 First Encounters and Initial Impressions
02:29 The Evolution of a Friendship and Professional Relationship
03:14 The Genesis of the Podcast: Motivations and Aspirations
03:35 From Property Management to Real Estate Investing: A Personal Journey
05:57 The Helicopter Pilot Turned Entrepreneur
07:55 Scaling a Property Management Business: Challenges and Triumphs
09:24 The Birth of Homevault: A Mastermind's Vision
19:14 Rebranding and Expanding: The Story of HomeVault
21:53 Looking Ahead: Current Projects and Future Plans
22:08 Journey from Property Management to Consulting
22:26 The Art of Coaching in Property Management
24:26 Clientele and Challenges in Property Management Consulting
28:19 Exploring E-commerce and Financial Trust Accounting
30:04 Real Estate Investment Strategies and Ventures
33:39 Reflecting on Property Management Experiences
42:22 Concluding Thoughts and Future Topics

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What Does Social Media and Monopoly have in Common? | Barrett Freeman27 Oct 202500:30:19

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Building and Leveraging Social Media for Real Estate Success - "I control 8% of all Facebook Traffic in Kentucky"

In this episode, Barrett Freeman, an insurance attorney, property manager, and avid real estate investor, shares insights on building a robust social media presence for real estate ventures. Barrett explains how he acquired Facebook groups to instantly boost his reach to 60,000 people per post, facilitating numerous house buying and flipping deals. The discussion outlines his strategic partnerships, particularly with his brother and business partner, Shawn, and how they navigate the challenges of flipping properties while maintaining a healthy cash flow. They delve into the importance of ethical practices, the dynamics of their partnership, and ways they reinvest profits. Barrett also emphasizes the critical role of social media in modern real estate and the value of staying adaptable and proactive in marketing efforts.

00:00 Introduction to Social Media Following
00:06 Building and Buying Social Media Groups
00:48 Real Estate Investing Strategies
01:36 Partnering for Property Deals
03:03 Managing and Flipping Properties
04:36 Challenges and Successes in Real Estate
11:41 Expanding Social Media Presence
14:43 Managing Facebook Groups for Real Estate
16:18 The Importance of Cash Flow in Real Estate
18:58 Reinvesting Profits and Debt Management
19:56 The Power of Partnerships in Real Estate
24:45 Navigating Real Estate Markets and Deals
29:15 The Role of Social Media in Real Estate

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Black Hawk Helicopter Pilot to Business Ownership | Jason Santiago29 Sep 202501:08:41

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From Combat Pilot to Gym Owner: Jason Santiago's Journey of Service and Entrepreneurship

Join us in this episode of Pay or Quit as we sit down with Jason Santiago, a former Black Hawk helicopter pilot and military veteran, who has transformed his life from flying high-stakes missions to tackling the challenges of entrepreneurship and fitness. Jason shares invaluable lessons on discipline, consistency, and making critical decisions in both aviation and business. Discover his insights on running a successful gym, overcoming the hardest times, and his ambitious future plans in law. Whether you're aspiring to serve, start a business, or simply looking for motivation, Jason's story is a testament to resilience and dedication.

00:00 Introduction: The Four D's of Success
00:32 Interview with Jason: Flying the Black Hawk
02:14 Joining the Military: From Tanks to Helicopters
07:12 Flight School Experience
09:32 Deployment Stories: Egypt and Afghanistan
27:28 Entrepreneurial Journey: From Soldier to Business Owner
34:08 The Power of Consistency and Discipline
34:28 The Role of Social Media in Perception
35:51 Mindset and Self-Worth in Fitness
38:32 Manifestation Requires Action
41:10 Challenges of Running a Gym
47:21 The Darkest Moments of Entrepreneurship
57:29 Transitioning to a New Career
01:04:09 Final Words of Wisdom


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Is outbound sales right for you? | Ben Smith15 Sep 202500:59:15

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Mastering Outbound Sales with Ben Smith

In this episode, Shawn interviews Ben Smith, the founder of Bright Reach Sales, who has over seven years of experience in driving revenue through effective sales strategies. Ben shares his journey from insurance sales to founding Bright Reach, emphasizing the importance of outbound sales for business growth. He provides insights into overcoming skepticism about outbound methods, establishing goals, and implementing personalized sales tactics. Ben also touches on the challenges of entrepreneurship, the impact of AI on sales, and leveraging gifts to build meaningful client relationships. This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking to elevate their sales strategy and achieve long-term business growth.

00:00 Introduction to Outbound Sales
00:32 Meet Ben Smith: Founder of Bright Reach Sales
02:01 The Birth of Bright Reach
04:48 Defining Outbound Sales
07:57 The Long-Term Mindset in Sales
13:46 Building Rapport and Providing Value
19:44 Overcoming Objections in Outbound Sales
24:38 Aligning Sales and Operations
30:12 Incentivizing Salespeople for Long-Term Success
31:23 Defining Salesperson Responsibilities
35:07 The Future of Outbound Sales with AI
39:16 The Power of Personalized Gifts in Sales
48:15 Encouraging Outbound Sales Skeptics
51:46 Challenges of Entrepreneurship
55:11 Where to Find More About Bright Reach Sales

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Your business is failing because of this28 Apr 202500:07:10

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The dangers of becoming too comfortable in business, warning that complacency can lead to failure. A quick-fire challenge with five crucial questions to determine if your business is on the path to growth or just surviving. Topics include systematizing and delegating, regular price adjustments, focusing on strategic work, taking calculated risks, and planning an exit strategy. Sean shares his personal experiences and offers actionable advice to help business owners stay competitive and thrive.

00:41 The Reality Check: Why Your Business is Struggling
01:47 Quick Fire Challenge: Assessing Your Business Health
02:14 Question 1: Can Your Business Survive Without You?
02:55 Question 2: When Did You Last Raise Your Prices?
03:38 Question 3: Are You Working In or On Your Business?
04:53 Question 4: Are You Playing to Win or Not to Lose?
05:41 Question 5: What's Your Exit Strategy?
06:15 Conclusion: The Price of Growth vs. Complacency

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Your Personal Brand Matters to Scale Your Business | Drea Buer17 Mar 202501:00:13

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Mastering Social Media Branding with Drea Buer: Insights from Respect the Brand

In this episode, Shawn welcomes Drea Buer, branding expert and founder of Respect the Brand. Drea shares her journey from various jobs to becoming a successful branding professional. The discussion covers the importance of personal branding, tips on content creation, leveraging social media platforms, and maintaining authenticity. Drea provides actionable advice on how to effectively use social media for business growth, tapping into platforms like TikTok, Instagram, and LinkedIn. Listeners will also learn about Drea's podcast, 'Before You Knew Me,' which emphasizes the significance of sharing personal and business stories. Tune in for practical strategies to boost your social media presence and generate business through authentic branding.

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00:00 Navigating the Niche Dilemma
00:26 Introducing Drea Buehr: From Sales to Branding
03:06 The Journey to Personal Branding
05:42 The Power of Authenticity in Social Media
10:16 Balancing Authenticity and Professionalism
15:55 Content Creation Strategies and Hooks
23:44 Choosing the Right Platform for Your Audience
31:58 The Ever-Evolving World of Social Media
32:14 The Power of Social Media for Business Owners
33:04 Building Connections Through Social Media
34:28 The Importance of Personal Branding
35:20 Creating Engaging Content
36:33 Leveraging Social Media for Business Growth
39:10 Overcoming the Fear of Social Media
46:43 Tips for Effective Video Editing
49:49 Utilizing AI Tools for Content Creation
51:22 Drea's Podcast and Final Thoughts

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Your Business is Worth $0 Until You Fix These 3 Things. Then it becomes irresistible!11 Mar 202500:06:19

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Why Your Business Is Worth Nothing Until You Fix These Issues

In this episode of the Payer Quit podcast, Shawn Austin Johnson discusses the harsh reality that many businesses are unsellable and essentially valueless until critical issues are addressed. Drawing from personal experience and examples, Shawn outlines three key strategies to transform a business into a sellable asset: documenting standard operating procedures, building a leadership team, and automating revenue streams. He emphasizes the importance of recurring revenue and maintaining clear, transparent financials. Whether or not you plan to sell your business, these steps are crucial for creating a profitable, scalable, and sustainable enterprise. Shawn challenges business owners to evaluate whether their business could sell today, and if not, to start implementing these changes immediately.

00:00 Introduction: The Hard Truth About Your Business
00:36 Why Most Businesses Fail to Sell
01:20 Fixing the Unsellable Business: Key Strategies
02:38 Creating Recurring Revenue for Business Value
04:13 Cleaning Up Your Financials
05:13 Turning Your Business from Unsellable to Irresistible
05:49 Conclusion: Build a Business That Pays You

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