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All tropes are innocent until poorly written.

Adrie and Stitch are joined by guests Sanj Basker and Tyler McCall — co-hosts of the Radio 831 podcast from 831 Stories — for a special Trope Court episode. Each of the four participants comes prepared to deliver a full-throated legal defense of a romance trope they believe is misunderstood. After each defense, the other three deliver a verdict: Guilty Pleasure, Misunderstood Masterpiece, or Case Dismissed. 

Topics: trope court, secret baby, category romance, contemporary romance, Susan Elizabeth Phillips, C-dramas, miscommunication, historical romance, Sherry Thomas, Emily Henry, voice-note discourse, NTR (netorare), boys love, girls love, manga, manhwa, Yotomo Min Sensei, Katee Robert, cuckolding, hot wifing, billionaire romance, chaebol romance, K-dramas, plastic surgery culture, guilty pleasure

Reading Recommendations: 

Fiction:

• Nobody’s Baby but Mine but Susan Elizabeth Phillips
• Private Arrangements by Sherry Thomas
• Under the Oak Tree by Suji
• Happy Place by Emily Henry
• Your Dad Will Do by Katee Robert
• Terms and Conditions by Lauren Asher
• Preferential Treatment by Heather Guerre
• Naachan NTR: The Person I Fell in Love With Is My Childhood Friend's Father by Yotamoi Min Sensei
• Riho NTR: Ordered by My Husband to Get Fucked by His Colleague by Yamamoto Tomomitsu

TV:

• Pursuit of Jade
• Marry My Husband
• What’s Wrong with Secretary Kim

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Guests:

Sanj Basker and Tyler McCall, co-hosts of Radio 831

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I don’t have to like her, I understand her.

Adrie and Stitch tackle the "unlikable female character" discourse head-on, tracing how fandom, publishing, and film consistently punish women and female characters for the exact same flaws that make male anti-heroes and rough heroes beloved. Drawing on academic work — from A.W. Wheaton's concept of the "rough hero" to Adriana Clavel-Vázquez's writing on rough heroines and imaginative resistance — they dig into why audiences eagerly forgive murderers, rapists, and misogynists (Quagmire, Hannibal, Cyril, Lestat) while turning on women for being confident, passive, horny, traumatized, or simply present (Rhaenyra, Skyler White, Julia from Cowboy Bebop, Shuri). The conversation ranges from Jane Austen's Emma to Tyler Perry's Acrimony, from Game of Thrones fandom's selective outrage to K-drama villainesses, landing on the same conclusion every time: "I support women's rights" often stops right where "and wrongs" begins.

Topics: unlikable female characters, rough heroes, anti-heroes, fandom double standards, protagonists, racialized double standards in fandom, Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon, Hannibal, Cowboy Bebop, Marvel/MCU, K-drama, webtoons, villainesses, misogyny in pop culture, feminist media analysis, women’s wrongs

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• The Raven Scholar by Antonia Hodgson
• The Remarried Empress by Alphatart
• Shards of a Broken Glass Slipper 
• The Returned C-Rank Tank Won’t Die
• For My Derelict Favorite
• My Engagement Was Called Off Under False Accusations, but Who Ever Said My Face Was Ugly Beneath the Mask? By En Nekogawa with illustrations by Neneko Kobato
• Daughter of No Worlds by Carissa Broadbent
• Famine (The Four Horseman #3) by Laura Thalassa
• Charmed & Dangerous (Bronwyn the Witch #1) by Candace Havens

Film & TV

• Jessica Jones (MCU)
• Marry My Husband (Korean and Japanese live action on Amazon Prime Video)
• Malcolm in the Middle

Non-Fiction:

• Unlikeable Female Characters: The Women Pop Culture Wants You To Hate by Anna Bogutskaya
• Sugar and Spice, and Everything Nice: What Rough Heroines Tell Us about Imaginative Resistance by ADRIANA CLAVEL-VAZQUEZ
• Misanthropes and Monsters: Writing the Unlikeable by PJ MALLETT
• Rough Heroes of the New Hollywood by A. W. Eaton
• “Jessica Jones Doesn’t Care About Men of Colour”  
• Strangers: A Memoir of Marriage by Belle Burden

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You can be bisexual, but only if you’ve never touched a man. 

Adrie and Stitch tackle the endless discourse around books "mismarketed" as sapphic when their bisexual leads also sleep with men. They break down what sapphic actually means, why bi women get treated as secretly straight (or not queer enough), and how "gold star" purity tests and political lesbianism collapse into transphobia. The conversation widens into heteropessimism, fandom's discomfort with femslash, the whiteness of biphobic discourse, and a eulogy-adjacent “discussion” of Gloria Steinem — before closing out with a stacked round of bisexual-lead romance recommendations.

Topics: sapphic marketing, bisexual erasure, biphobia, gold star gays, political lesbianism, compulsory heterosexuality, heteropessimism, Achillean romance, M/M romance, WLW romance, Heated Rivalry, fandom shipping discourse, femslash, transphobia, How to Get Away With Murder, Annalise Keating, age-gap romance, white feminism, Gloria Steinem, poly romance, why choose romance, queer romance

Reading Recommendations: 

Fiction:

• Vengefully Matched by Audrey Goldberg Ruoff
• Two for Tea by CM Nascosta
• Romancing the Werewolf by Gail Carriger
• Take a Hint, Dani Brown by Talia Hibbert
• The Art of Three by Erin McRae and Racheline Maltese
• Small Town Witch by Alex Singer (story) and Jayd Aït-Kaci (art)
• Every Kit Rocha book, basically but The Sectors specifically
• A Rational Arrangement by L Rowyn

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My man, my man, my man… is trying to kill me.

Adrie and Stitch are joined by pop culture critic and video essayist Princess Weekes to dig into the enemies-to-lovers trope across anime, fanfic, and romance publishing. They trace their earliest ships (Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura, Dramione, SwanQueen), argue about what modern romance gets wrong when it "mismarkets" itself as enemies to lovers, and debate what actually makes the trope work — narrative overlap, ideological reconciliation, and real stakes, not just banter.

Topics: enemies to lovers, rivals to lovers, fandom shipping wars, fanfiction, omegaverse, dark romance, erotica vs. romance, historical romance, second chance romance, anti-hero tropes, Dramione, Avatar: The Last Airbender, Zutara, Kataang, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Spuffy, Fuffy, fandom discourse, cancel culture, thought crimes, ASOIAF

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Broken Flames by MK Ahearn
• The Irresistible Urge to Fall for Your Enemy by Brigitte Knightley
• XXX Buddy/Perfect Buddy by lash and daki
• Game On by Navessa Allen
• The Death Made Prince by Lisette Marshall
• The Nightborn Duet by Carissa Broadbent
• The Sweet Pea Mysteries series by Kathryn Moon
• The Poppy War by R.F. Kuang

Non-Fiction:

•  The Messy Politics of Enemies to Lovers by PrincessWeekes
• Anti hero, edited by Fiona Peters and Rebecca Stewart

Previous Episodes:

• E69: Leave Room for My God Complex - Kink Panic and the New Puriteens
• E62: Ship War of Theseus
• E51: Fandom Etiquette

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Guests: Princess Weekes is an Assistant Editor at the Geek Girl Pop Culture Site, The Mary Sue and the co-host/co-writer of the PBS Digital Series, It's Lit. She got her Master's Degree at Brooklyn College in Literary Theory where she wrote about colorism in fairy tales and became inspired to write, The Johnson Bay Witches. A born and raised Brooklynite, when she isn't busy writing, she's busy contemplating cult-classic television shows that ended decades ago. The Johnson Bay Witches is her first novel.

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If I had a nickel for every time someone reduced the entirety of the romance genre to “smut,” I’d have enough money to be my own billionaire book boyfriend.

Adrie and Stitch dig into the TikTok discourse around "smut," "fairy porn," and romantasy — a conversation that starts with why Adrie hates the word smut and ends with a rigorous taxonomy of romance, erotic romance, erotica, and pornography. Along the way, they trace the through line from Anthony Comstock's 19th-century censorship crusade to contemporary age-verification legislation, purity culture in fandom, and why women reading for pleasure has always made someone, somewhere, deeply uncomfortable.

Topics: romance, erotic romance, erotica, pornography, romantasy, fantasy romance, dark romance, smut discourse, the Comstock Act, publishing censorship, age verification, KOSA, internet regulation, fandom purity culture, religious repression, women's literacy, feminist discourse, genre fiction

Reading Recommendations: 

Fiction:

• A Touch of Taboo series by Katee Robert
• Sinner by Sierra Simone
• Father by Loki Renard
• Guarded by the Snake by Layla Fae
• Training the Receptionist by Juniper Bell
• The Bachelor Machine by M Christian
• THE GODWICKS by Tiffany Reisz
• The Scheming Crown Prince’s Wicket Consort by Subaru Kayano 
• We Can’t Do Just Plain Love by Mafuyu Fukita
• Nao-chan NTR ~The Person I Fell in Love With Is My Childhood Friend's Father~ by Yatomomin
• The Cold-Blooded Captain's Sadistic Love (audio)
• The Merciless Perfect Man I Started Dating Turned Out To Be An Infatuated Closet Pervert (audio)

Non-Fiction:

• Hard Core: Power, Pleasure, and the Frenzy of the Visible by Linda Williams
• Screening Sex by Linda Williams
• Reading the Romance by Janice Radway
• The History of Sexuality by Michel Foucault
• The Uses of the Erotic by Audre Lorde (part of Sister, Outsider)
• The Perpetual Disappointment of “If Only” Eroticism by Rien Gray

Past Episodes:

• E24: Harlequin Renaissance
• E29: Heaving Bosoms
• E33: In Defense of Smut

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Enemies to lovers, fake dating, one bed – go girl, give me… the entire story.

Adrie and Stitch dive into the world of romance marketing — specifically, the increasingly common practice of selling books through exhaustive trope lists rather than traditional publishing shorthand. They trace how genre conventions evolved from Jane Austen to bodice rippers to the algorithm-driven Canva graphics flooding BookTok today, arguing that tropes are a powerful tool that authors and publishers are wielding with diminishing returns — and diminishing accuracy. Along the way, they unpack how societal shifts (birth control, women entering the workforce, divorce becoming normalized) have always driven the emergence of new romantic conventions, and why the current moment feels less like evolution and more like a race to the bottom of the SEO barrel.

Topics: romance publishing history, trope marketing, SEO and algorithms, bodice rippers, category romance, Harlequin and Mills & Boon, enemies to lovers, forced proximity, only one bed, rivals to lovers, omegaverse, reverse harem, dark romance, mob and mafia romance, paranormal romance, YA romance, urban fantasy, transmigration romance, Korean webtoons, boys love, danmei, spoilers, fandom studies

Reading Recommendations: 

Fiction:

• Be My Bad Guy by Kate Prior (enemies to lovers, billionaire boyfriend, almost too dumb to die)
• Luxuria by Colette Rhodes (primal kink, breeding kink, miscommunication, billionaire boyfriend, grumpy x sunshine, almost fated mates, marriage of convenience)
• The Death-Made Prince by Lisette Marshall (enemies to lovers, miscommunication, slow burn, he falls first)
• Marital Enemies (rivals to lovers x 2, transmigration, second chance romance, miscommunication.)
• Apocalypse Villainess: Survival of a Corporate Slave (zombie apocalypse, villainess, rivals to lovers, rewrite the narrative)
• The Husky and His White Cat Shizun by Meatbun (student-teacher, miscommunication, time travel, one-sided enemies to lovers)

Non-Fiction:

• Man and His Symbols by Carl Jung and Marie-Louise von Franz 
• Monster Theory: Reading Culture by Jeffrey Jerome Cohen
• The Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell
• The Writer’s Journey: Mythic Structure for Writers by Christopher Vogler 

Past Episodes:

• E24: Harlequin Renaissance
• E47: We Live in a Society
• E63: I Got a Pocket Full of Cheap Books

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Everyone hates alpha-holes until the hero is a 7-foot tall, genetically modified war criminal being held captive in a secret underground lab.

Content Warning: This episode includes frank discussions of dubious consent, non-consent, and other fraught power and relationship dynamics. 

Adrie and Stitch dive into the world of prison romance — a subgenre of romance and dark erotica centered on men (and occasionally other beings) who are deprived of liberty, whether in correctional facilities, medical institutions, or otherwise controlled environments. They're joined by licensed clinical social worker and psychotherapist Andrew Pari, who has pioneered work closing the gap between kink/BDSM communities and clinical psychology, and who just finished writing a book chapter on consensual non-consent. Together, all three push back on the discourse around dark romance as uniquely harmful, arguing that women's rape fantasies are neither new nor dangerous — and that curiosity, not condemnation, is the real antidote.

Topics: prison romance, institutionalization romance, dark romance, dark erotica, omegaverse, transmigration romance, Korean webtoons, boys love, dubcon, CNC, consensual non-consent, BDSM, caretaker romance, kink psychology, sexual trauma, rape fantasy, heteropessimism, feminist discourse, fandom studies

Reading Recommendations: 

Fiction:

• Cottonmouth by Naomi Lucas
• Releasing Maladek by Victoria Aveline
• The Warrior of Rozun duology by Zoey Draven
• Jax: The Boundarylands Omegaverse by Callie Rhodes
• Prison Breakfast by Ziddo
• I Met The Male Lead in Prison by Moon Sihyun and Hyeseong
• Under Grand Hotel by Sadahiro Mika
• FOG LAND by POGO
• I Failed to Oust the Villain! 

Non-Fiction:

• Women’s Erotic Rape Fantasies: An Evaluation of Theory and Research by Joseph W. Critelli & Jenny M. Bivona
• Inside the Horny Dungeon of BookTok “Dark Romance” Music by Kieran Press-Reynolds
• ‘Dogfuck rapeworld’: Omegaverse fanfiction as a critical tool in analyzing the impact of social power structures on intimate relationships and sexual consent by Milena Popova

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Guests: Andrew Pari is a psychotherapist and Founder of Sexual Awakening & Awareness, dedicated to bridging the conversation between traditional psychotherapy and kink knowledge by treating sexualized trauma through a sex-positive lens.  He is the creator of the concept of Curative Kink and has developed the first therapeutic model allowing for the re-experiencing of sexual trauma to create healing in an environment of safety and trust. A nationally recognized expert in trauma and sexualized violence, he’s developed sex trade policy and hosted worldwide online discussions on rape.  He recently finished writing a chapter on Consensual Non-Consent for the first clinical textbook on Kink Psychotherapy.  He adores his Russian Blue kitty, Finley, who keeps Andrew grounded in the important things in life.

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Maybe he’s hiding emotional trauma, maybe it’s Maybelline.

Stitch and Adrie dive into the world of masked man romance — a subgenre of dark romance and erotica centered on men (and occasionally other entities) who conceal their faces. Stitch, newly obsessed with the trope, breaks down its defining elements: the kinks involved (stalking, primal play, sex clubs, consensual non-consent), the recurring character archetypes, and the surprisingly vulnerable emotional cores hiding beneath all those balaclavas. Adrie brings a fresh perspective as someone less familiar with the subgenre, offering examples from adjacent tropes — including a hooded shadow creature from CM Nascosta and a masked alien king — while both hosts discuss how these fantasies connect to real cultural touchstones like Scream and Nightmare on Elm Street, and Nosferatu. They also push back on the discourse around dark romance as uniquely harmful, arguing that these fantasies are neither new nor dangerous.

Topics: masked man romance, dark romance, dark erotica, horror romance, monster romance, alien romance, romantasy, fantasy romance, omegaverse, CNC, dubcon, primal play, stalker romance, slasher romance, masked men

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• BJ Alex
• Captured By The Masked Murderer: Okay, We'll Get Cozy... Just Don't Kill Me!
• Mask Danshi: This Shouldn't Lead to Love
• Ruling Sikthand by Victoria Aveline
• The Princess & the Spy series by Lisette Marshall (temporarily unpublished)
• The Viridian Priestess series by Katrina Calandra
• Two for Tea by CM Nascosta
• Slaying the Vampire Conqueror by Carissa Broadbent

Non-Fiction:

•  Uses of the Erotic by Audre Lorde

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I am a freak and I am proud.

Why are so many fans hiding their AO3 bookmarks, running private accounts, and apologizing for what they love? In this episode of Pages & Prejudice, Stitch and Adrie Rose dig into the culture of shame, guilt, and fear that has taken over fandom spaces — and why it's making everyone miserable. Drawing on cultural anthropology, Ruth Benedict's guilt/shame/fear society framework, and years of firsthand fandom experience, they break down how anti-fandom, call-out culture, and the concept of "guilty pleasures" are pushing fans to hide, self-censor, and turn on each other.

Topics: fanfiction, AO3, guilty pleasures, anti-fandom, dark ships, slash fiction, fandom culture, kink shaming, fandom shame, fan works, pro-ship, fandom discourse, kirk/spock

Recommendations:

Fanfic:

• Alien Brothers by Helena Seabright

Podcasts:

• Searching for Soshern: The Forbidden Star Trek Fanfiction (Very Special Episodes)

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Go forth and live your best trope!

Adrie and Stitch sit down with Maggie North, Canadian author and anesthesiologist, to discuss her latest novel Fossil Feud — an almost second-chance, contemporary romance set against the world of citizen science and paleontology. They talk about the science and history baked into the book, why romance deserves more credit as an intellectual pursuit, what it means to write a protagonist who weaponizes her own rules to avoid being hurt again, and how a discipline built on unearthing the past became the perfect metaphor for love, grief, and the people we're always becoming.

Fossil Feud comes out July 28, 2026!

Topics: Maggie North, Fossil Feud, second chance romance, STEM, paleontology, Bone Wars, women's anger, complex female characters, heteropessimism, arrival fallacy, Jurassic Park

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Fossil Feud by Maggie North
• Cherry Baby by Rainbow Rowell
• August Lane by Regina Black
• Will They or Won’t They by Ava Wilder
• Scot & Bothered by Alexandra Kiley
• Mistakenly Saving the Villain
• A World Without You

Non-Fiction:

• Losing Gus: The Cost of Commercial Dinosaur Actions by Kristi Curry Rogers
• Bittersweet by Susan Kane

Podcasts:

• The Bone Wars | History This Week
• Paleontological Frauds | Strange Animals
• The Great Himalayan Golmaal | The Rearview Podcast

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Guests:

Maggie North writes deeply emotional, strangely hilarious romance novels about introverts, STEM, Canada, and other overlooked, underappreciated things you’d love to discover. A doctor by day, author by night, she lives in Ottawa, Canada with the man she met in ninth grade, their kid, and a rotating cast of hypoallergenic aquarium friends. Maggie enjoys being autistic a lot more since her diagnosis as an adult. Her books include RULES FOR SECOND CHANCES, THE RIPPLE EFFECT, and FOSSIL FEUD.

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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Guests:

Another Bad Salad (@anotherbadsald on tiktok and youtube) aka the Bob’s Burger’s lady

It’s not a phase mom, this is who I am!

Adrie and guest Holly (anotherbadsalad) dig into the "manic pixie goth girl" — the pop culture archetype of the politically-charged, aesthetically-consumed goth girl in teen and animated media, and why her actual beliefs almost always get tossed aside in favor of her look. From Ally Sheedy's makeover in The Breakfast Club to Jane Lane vs. Daria, Marceline's emotional labor in Adventure Time, Debbie Hyman in American Dad, the Hex Girls, and the underrated Wendell & Wild — they trace how goth girls get fetishized, disposed, tied to trauma, and rarely allowed to just be. Plus: the racialization of goth aesthetics, the goth-to-supernatural pipeline, and why the Catholic Church is actually very goth.

Topics: goth girl trope, manic pixie dream girl, media criticism, animated media, fetishization, teen media, Daria, Danny Phantom, Teen Titans, American Dad, Wendell & Wild, fandom, representation, goth aesthetics

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• The Vampire Kisses series by Ellen Schreiber
• Leech by Hiron Ennes

Television:

• Chilling Adventures of Sabrina
• MTV’s Downtown
• O’Grady

Film:

• The Craft
• Forbidden Fruits

Past Episodes:

• E45: Once You Go Alien
• E49: A Thin Line Between Love & Hate
• E54: Gay Twitches! Gay Twitches!

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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Leave room for Jesus, but it’s a 20 year old virgin on tiktok.

Adrie and Stitch dig into how purity culture is making a comeback — not just from the religious right, but from within progressive fandom and online spaces — and why the result looks eerily similar from both ends of the political spectrum. They explore the "SVU-ification" of media, the rise of kink-shaming in fandom, why nuance is dead on the internet, and how algorithm-driven outrage is producing a generation that can't sit with discomfort — let alone articulate it. From discourse about problematic romance fiction and RPF, to the harassment of actors for being straight, to the hot takes on God of War's Begtse, this episode asks: are we actually protecting anyone, or are we just doing purity culture from the left?

Topics: purity culture, fandom discourse, kink-shaming, consent language, SVU, romance fiction, RPF, problematic faves, fanfic, AO3, Heated Rivalry, and more.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• The Planet of Kings series by Lee Savino and Tabitha Black
• The Alpha Horde series by Milana Jacks
• Cold Sweat by Vera Valentine
• basically anything by Loki Reynard
• Maneater
• Royal Reincarnation
• The Mating of Elves
• Holesome Romance 

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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And what if I said erotica is a social good?

From ukiyo-e erotica and Tijuana Bibles to webtoons and Kickstarter comics, Stitch and Adrie trace the surprisingly rich history of graphic romance. They cover the rise and fall of 1950s romance comics, the Comics Code's self-inflicted wounds, the erasure of Black and queer stories, and how manga, indie publishers, and the internet finally gave readers the romantic and erotic comics they actually wanted.

Topics: romance comics history, Comics Code Authority, Fredric Wertham, manga and shojo, graphic novels, webtoons, queer comics, Jackie Ormes, Women in Refrigerators, Kickstarter adult comics

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• IDW’s Weird Love Romance Comic Anthologies from 2014
• Break Protocols by Sarybomb
• Artificial Love by Maria Llovet
• The Mafia Nanny
• Lore Olympus by Rachel Smythe
• Smut Peddler Presents: My Monster Boyfriend
• Sunstone by Stjepan Šejić 
• Starfighter by hamletmachine
• Lucifer’s Garden by hamletmachine
• Super Fun Sexy Times by Meredith McClaren
• Vampire Knight by Matsuri Hino
• Ouran High School Host Club by Bisco Hatori

Non-Fiction:

• Comic Book Women: Characters, Creators, and Culture in the Golden Age by Peyton Brunet and Blair Davis with an introduction by Trina Robbins
• Love on the Racks: A History of American Romance Comics by Michelle Nolan
• Sequential Crush
• Race and Romance from Love Between the Covers

Podcasts:

• Service95 Book Club hosted by Dua Lipa
• The Great Comic Book Scare | History This Week

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Send inquiries to pagesandprejudicepod@gmail.com. 

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

Guests:

Ella Dawson (@brosandprose on bsky and instagram) is an NYC-based sex and culture critic and the author of But How Are You, Really, a romance novel about college reunions and millennial angst. She is also the host of the Rebel Ever After podcast about progressive romance novels.

If I’m going to suffer at the hands of a man, I would at least like a little narrative consistency.

Hosts Adrie and Stitch explore the history of the romance hero — from bodice-ripping pirates to soft cinnamon rolls — and why the sociopath anti-hero is making a loud, alarming comeback. Then they sit down with Ella Dawson (Rebel Ever After podcast, But How Are You Really?) to talk about why readers are drawn to these narratives, what the rise of dark romance says about hetero pessimism and the modern dating landscape, the genre collapse between erotica and romance, and why asking "why do you like what you like?" shouldn't be a threat.

Topics: dark romance, alpha heroes, romance tropes, genre criticism, consent in fiction, BookTok, feminist theory

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• The Songs of Submission series by CD Reiss
• The Right to Bear Arms by Vivienne Savage
• To Conquer a Highlander by Mary Wine
• The Fever series by Karen Marie Moning
• Devoured: The Serpent and the Pomegranate by Eunren and Gamjajeon
• One Night Only by seowoo
• Love is an Illusion: the Queen by Fargo
• Steel Under Silk by snob
• The Devil in Winter by Lisa Kleypas
• Pot Shot by Laura Piper Lee
• Willing Prey by Allie Oleander
• Back for Seconds by Betty Corello

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

Unfortunately, romance wouldn’t sell as well if the FMCs blocked the MMC every time he was annoying.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Sensual Stress Relief by Pochitaro
• The Villainess is being Pleasure Interrogated by a Steely Knight 
• Tell Me When You're Full! By pokerou
• I Got Isekai'd as a Succubus and Became the Familiar of a Super Sadistic Magician!
• Faeling by SE Wendel 
• Hunger in His Blood by Zoey Draven
• Omega’s Gambit by Flora Quincy
• The Georgina Kincaid series by Richelle Mead

Non-Fiction:

• The Great Big Anita Blake Reread: Approaching the Ardeur (An Explainer)

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Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

The pandemic emotionally dysregulated me and all I got was this cozy romance novel.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• The Brown Sisters trilogy by Talia Hibbert
• Necking by Chris Salvatore
• After this episode was published, we learned that Sylvie Stray uses or used generative AI for several of her works. We do not support or endorse the use of any technology which promotes theft or degradation of the arts. These notes have been edited to remove the recommendation of her work.
• The Claws & Cubicle series by Kate Prior
• Adults’ Picture Book by Kei Itoi
• Hawk & March by Charlie Amen
• Bless by Yukino Sonoyama

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

I accidentally made eye contact with Y/N and now HR is asking me to clean out my desk.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Love and Deepspace (yes, the entire mobile game)

Non-Fiction:

•  Fanlore’s page on the Mary Sue

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

Quit tellin' everyone I"m dead!

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• The Highlander series by Karen Marie Moning
• The Love at Stake series by Kerrelyn Sparks
• The Parasol Protectorate series by Gail Carriger
• The Fallen Angels series by JR Ward
• The Argeneau Vampires series by Lynsay Sands
• The Psy/Changeling series by Nalini Singh
• The Guildhunters series by Nalini Singh
• Flowers in the Attic by V.C. Andrews
• The Dark Hunter series by Sherrilyn Kenyon
• Sweet Valley High by Francine Pascal

Non-Fiction:

• Mass Market Romance is Still Important, Ya’ll by Jessica Pryde | Book Riot
• Print Book Sales Saw a Small Sales Increase in 2024 | Publisher’s Weekly
• Mass Market Paperbacks are Dead by Daniel Greene | Youtube
• How Mass-Market Paperbacks Rewrote Reading Culture by Retha Tep | History
• Don’t Call Them Trash by Sophie Gilbert | The Atlantic
• So Long to Cheap Books You Could Fit in Your Pockets by Elizabeth A. Harris | NYT

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

It is these damn phones.

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

Guests:

Jeffrey Jerome Cohen is Dean of Humanities at Arizona State University and former co-president of the Association for the Study of Literature and the Environment, the largest professional organization in the environmental humanities. His research examines strange and beautiful things that challenge the imagination, phenomena that are alien and intimate at once.

So, this is what it's like to have all your dreams come true.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Why Don’t You Eat Me, My Dear Wolf by Ao Koshikawa
• Eat by Nagabe
• The Great Snake’s Bride by Fushiashikumo
• The Monsters in Like series by 0nlyamemory, VagabondsAndConventGirls (fan fiction)
• The Summer Hikaru Died by mokumokuren
• Boys of the Dead by Douji Tomita
• Monster and Beast by Renji
• Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba by Koyoharu Gotouge

Non-Fiction:

• Monster Theory: Reading Culture by Jeffrey Jerome Cohen
• Of Giants: Sex, Monsters, & the Middle Ages by Jeffrey Jerome Cohen
• Why Dragons Dominated the Landscape of Medieval Monsters
• Monsters in the Closet: Homosexuality and the Horror Film by Harry Benshoff
• Becoming the Monster: Queer Monstrosity and the Reclamation of the Werewolf in Slash Fandom by Jacquelin Elliot
• K-Pop Fandom Performing Deokhu from the 1990s to Today By Areum Jeong

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Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

Head empty, just complaints.

Reading Recommendations:

Read whatever you want. Godspeed.

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

Mommy? Sorry. Mommy? Sorry.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Role Playing by Cathy Yardley
• 10 Things I Want to Do Before I Turn 40 (manga and live action show)
• Hot Nights at the Hot Springs, Secret Trip No. 241 by Sonoo Michiru
• Tokyo Story, a film by Yasujiro Ozu
• Demigods of San Francisco series by KF Breene (21+)
• Leveling Up series by KF Breene (35+)
• Outlander series by Diana Gabaldon (25+)
• Argeneau series by Lynsay Sands (21+)
• Zorya Dark Ones series by Katie Macallister (35+)

Non-Fiction:

• Myths About Sexuality and Why Older Women Deserve Romance HEAs

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

Women don’t want billionaire boyfriends, they want 100% employer-covered health, vision, and dental and unlimited PTO.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Excess by Colette Rhodes
• Cinder’s Wolf by Sylvia Frost
• Desire in His Blood by Zoey Draven
• Terms and Conditions by Lauren Asher
• Trade Me by Courtney Milan
• The Penthouse: War in Life (on Netflix and Viki)
• Positively Yours (on Viki in mid-January)
• Business Proposal (Netflix)
• The Boss by Jenny Trout

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

Women don’t want billionaire boyfriends, they want 100% employer-covered health, vision, and dental and unlimited PTO.

Reading Recommendations will be in part II.

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Our gift to you is 2 hours of uncut yapping. Enjoy!

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Tradwifery is just kink with extra steps. Monster romance is kink with no steps. Pick your fighter.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• The Clecanian series by Victoria Aveline
• The Lady & the Orc by Finley Fenn
• Two for Tea by CM Nascosta
• Games with the Orc by Kathryn Moon
• Howl for the Gargoyle by Kathryn Moon
• The Gargoyle from General Management by Kate Prior
• Warts & Claws Inc. Series by Clio Evans
• The Mabon Feast by CM Nascosta
• Me and My Beast Boss by Shiroinu
• Why Don’t You Eat Me, My Dear Wolf by Ao Koishikawa

Non-Fiction:

• ‘I know I can’t live like this forever’: Meet the red-pilled men trying to quit the manosphere | Glamour
• The Manosphere Rewired | Equimundo
• Is Having a Boyfriend Embarrassing Now? | Vogue
• What the Response to “Are Boyfriends Embarrassing?" Says About the Current State of Heterosexual Dating | Vogue
• Monster Theory: Reading Culture by Jeffrey Jerome Cohen
• Of Giants: Sex, Monsters, & the Middle Ages by Jeffrey Jerome Cohen
• everyone HATES a negative review by mynameismarines
• Blumhouse Compendium of Horror
• Monsters in the Closet: Homosexuality and the Horror Film by Harry Benshoff

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Every coven has has one witch whose real power is just emotional damage.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Brooms by Jasmine Walls, illustrated by Teo DuVall
• This Poison Heart by Kaylnn Baron

Non-Fiction:

• Rachel True Looks Back on The Craft | Youtube
• The SAD Truth About Kat Graham & All the Racism She Experienced on “The Vampire Diaries” | Youtube
• A Black Women’s History of Hoodoo, Conjure, & Witchcraft | Youtube
• Mammy, Jezebel, Sapphire, and their Homegirls by Dr. Carolyn West
• The Evolution of Black Witches on Screen | Youtube
• Black Magic: White Hollywood and African American Culture by Krin Gabbard
• Urban Fantasy 101: Magical Negros in the Genre

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

No one is reading romantasy for the realism. They read it so 2 emotionally stunted idiots are legally obligated to kiss by page 312.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Love is An Illusion by Fargo
• The Remarried Empress by alpha_tart, herelee
• Lore Olympus by Rachel Smythe
• Boyfriends by refrainbow
• Bride by Ali Hazelwood
• Rhapsodic by Laura Thalassa
• It Happened One Summer by Tessa Bailey 

Non-Fiction:

• STOP TAGGING AUTHORS IN REVIEWS by Reads With Rachel
• The Hanya Yanagihara Principle by Andrea Long Chu

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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Romance ARC reviewers will sprint through 462 pages of soul-shattering hand-holding, then calmly write “needs more tension,” like they weren’t just sobbing into a stuffy five minutes ago.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• The Sugar Baby trilogy (novellas) by Rebekah Weatherspoon
• Jockstraps & Newspapers by Lizzie Strong
• The Lizzie & Diesel series by Janet Evanovich
• The Prince Lestat trilogy by Anne Rice 
• The Mercy Thompson series by Patricia Briggs
• The Dark Hunter series by Sherrilyn Kenyon

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

Why do you act like that? Like that…the way that you act.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• The Psy Changeling series by Nalini Singh
• The Boss by Jenny Trout

Non-Fiction:

• The Three Laws of Fandom 
• The Internet of Beefs
• Fansplaining 208: What Fans Owe Each Other
• (Things I Wish Weren’t) Applied To Fandom: The Three Rules/Laws of Fandom

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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Adrie and Stitch talk about CM Nascosta, Cambric Creek, and race in monster stories.

Reading Recommendations:

The Cambric Creek Universe, in order:

1. Girls Weekend
2. The Minoan Bride (after dark)
3. Morning Glory Milking Farm
4. A Blue Ribbon Romance (MGMF from Rourke's perspective)
5. The Mabon Feast
6. Parties
7. A Holly Jolly Mess (short stories)
8. Sweet Berries
9. Run, Run Rabbit (after dark)
10. Moon Blooded Breeding Clinic
11. The Filled Vessel (after dark)
12. Hexennacht
13. Two for Tea
14. Shadows and Light (after dark)
15. Invitations
16. He Loves Me Not

(After dark) denotes titles with themes that may be considered triggering or controversial. Check trigger warnings before reading.

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Stitch and Adrie talk about Kinktober, fandom, and A03.

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Adrie and Stitch talk about heteropessimism, Sabrina Carpenter as a convenient scapegoat, and kink panic.

Fiction:

• The Fifty Shades of Grey trilogy by EL James
• The Crossfire series by Sylvia Day
• Placebo by Cuke Soap
• Cliterary Book Club by van and gold bozi
• In the Doghouse by Jusang

Non-Fiction:

• On Heteropessimism by Asa Seresin (The New Inquiry)
• Intercourse by Andrea Dworkin
• Pornography and Civil Rights by Catharine MacKinnon
• Thinking Sex by Gayle Rubin
• Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good by adrienne maree brown

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Adrie and Stitch talk about slavefic, romcoms as a response to feminism, and the attitudes of women in American culture throughout post-industrial history.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• The Brown Sisters trilogy by Talia Hibbert
• Necking by Chris Salvatore
• The Jade Calhoun series by Deanna Chase
• The Demon Slayer series by Angie Fox
• True Beauty (manhwa on Webtoon, live action on Viki)
• Business Proposal (manhwa on Tapas, live action on Netflix)

Non-Fiction:

• Black Gotham: A Family History of African Americans in Nineteenth-Century New York City
• Edward W. Said - Culture and imperialism

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

Stitch and Adrie talk about kinktober, dark romance, Sinners and Stardust, and the nature off consent.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Steel Under Silk
• Sadistic Beauty
• In These Words
• Eat
• The Princess of Gryffindor by Aurette (SSHG fanfic)

Non-Fiction:

•  censorship is coming for you next (& you're cheering it on)

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

Saving the species, one human at a time.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Brides of the Kylorr series by Zoey Draven
• The Clecanian series by Victoria Aveline
• Claimed Among the Stars anthology
• The Fireblood Dragons series by Ruby Dixon (but not the 10th one)
• Mates of Planet 25XA series by Merry Ravenell
• Mass Effect Andromeda 
• Star-Crossed (CW TV Series)
• Superman (2025)
• The Jekh Saga by H. E. Trent
• Thrawn by Timothy Zahn

Non-Fiction:

• Difference Engine: Aliens, Robots, and Other Racial Matters in the History of Science Fiction by De Witt Douglas Kilgore
• Monster Theory (specifically chapter 1, Monster Culture) by Jeffrey Jerome Cohen

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Do you carry a lunchbox?

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• The Princess Diaries series by Meg Cabot
• Sailor Moon by Naoko Takeuchi 
• Gravitation by Maki Murakami
• Fantasy Lover by Sherrilyn Kenyon
• the Highlander series by Karen Marie Moning
• A Great and Terrible Beauty trilogy by Libba Bray
• the Vampire Kisses series by Ellen Schreiber

Non-Fiction:

•  AO3 Ship Stats 2025

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It’s a choice.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Meet Me at the Anvil by Kate Prior
• My Orc Roommate by Veronika Kane
• Sweetling by SE Wendel
• Magical Midlife Madness by KF Breene
• Impromptu Match (Goliaths of Wrestling) by Lily Mayne
• All Superheroes Need PR (Supers in the City) by Elizabeth Stephens
• One Last Job by Anise Starre

Alternatives to Kindle Unlimited

• Libby (via OverDrive) & Hoopla (free with a participating library card)
• Scribd / Everand ($11.99/month + 30 day trial)
• Kobo Plus & Kobo Plus Listen ($7.99/month for a Plus or Listen plan, $9.99/month for both)
• Apple Books (free to access + cost of books)
• Google Play Books (free to access + cost of books)

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Well, I don’t say that you have to enjoy it!

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• The Dragons books by Katie MacAlister
• Gotten by the Gator by Lizzie Strong
• Daughter of No Worlds by Carissa Broadbent
• The Fae Isles series by Lisette Marshall
• The Boss by Jenny Trout
• Evensong’s Heir by L.S. Baird
• Smoke and Ashes by Alexis Hall
• Love and Deepspace - the mobile game

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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Show Notes:

Hosted by:

Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

I invited you into my home and now you’re mad about the curtains?

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• The Midnight Breed series by Lara Adrian
• Maybe the first 10-11 books in the The Black Dagger Brotherhood series by JR Ward
• Necking by Chris Salvatore 
• The Highlander series by Karen Marie Moning
• The Jade Calhoun series by Deanna Chase
• The Earth, My Butt, and Other Big Round Things by Carolyn Mackler
• The first… six books of the Cassie Palmer series by Karen Chance
• The Lotus Palace by Jeannie Lin

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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Hosted by:

Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

This is not what Joseph Smith had in mind.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Blue Bloods series by Melissa de la Cruz 
• Mediator series by Meg Cabot
• Lana Harvey, Reapers Inc. by Angela Roquet
• Immortal Dark by Tigest Girma
• Bride by Ali Hazelwood
• Midnight Sun by Stephanie Meyer
• Carmilla by Sheridan Le Fanu
• Hungerstone by Kat Dunn
• Fledgling by Octavia Butler 
• First Kill on Netflix

Non-Fiction:

• Why We Love and Hate Twilight by Sarah Elizabeth Gallagher
• Bitten by Twilight by Melissa A. Click, Jennifer Stevens Aubrey, and Elizabeth Behm-Morawitz
• Seduced by Twilight by Natalie Wilson
• Fanpires: Audience Consumption of the Modern Vampire by Gareth Scott and Kirstine Moffat
• Vampires and Vampirism: A Cultural Study by Dudley Wright and Tarl Warwick (original version from 1918)
• Celluloid Vampires: Life After Death in the Modern World by Stacey Abbott
• Race in the Vampire Narrative edited by U. Melisssa Anyiwo
• Too White Bread for This Shit: Race and Racism in Laurell K Hamilton’s Urban Fantasy Series

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

Please clear my internet search history when I’m gone.

Reading Recommendations:

Games

• Mass Effect
• Silent Hill

Non-Fiction:

• Snape: A Definitive Reading by Lorrie Kim

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

It’s pretty obvious that money was just a suggestion for the Halliwell sisters.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Delicious in Dungeon by Ryoko Kui
• Cherry Magic! Thirty Years of Virginity Can Make You a Wizard by Yuu Toyota
• The Virgin Witch by Face Park
• The Sweet Pea Mysteries series by Kathryn Moon
• The Witches of the Midwest series by Amanda M. Lee
• The Devil Made Me Brew It by Sarah Piper
• The Wheel of the Year series by CM Nascosta

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

And they were [Confederate] soldiers.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• The Love at Stake series by Kerrelyn Sparks
• The Southern Vampire Mystery series by Charlaine Harris
• The Crowns of Nyaxia series by Carissa Broadbent
• The Vampire Academy series by Richelle Mead
• The Ghostwalker series by Christine Feehan
• A Discovery of Witches by Deborah Harkness
• Dread Nation/Deathless Divide by Justina Ireland

Non-Fiction:

• Video: The State of NaNoWriMo
• “On “Twilight” and Fiction’s History of Confederate Vampires”

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

Whenever feasible, one should always try to eat the rude.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Fangs - Billy Balibally 
• MADK - Ryo Suzuri
• The Tiger Won’t Eat the Dragon Yet - Hachi Inaba
• Eat - Nagabe
• A Sinner of the Deep Sea - Akihito Tomo
• M41TO on BSKY

Non-Fiction:

• Neo-Victorian Cannibalism: A Theory of Contemporary Adaptations - Tammy Lai-Ming Ho
• How to Serve Man: On Cannibalism, Sex, Sacrifice, & the Nature of Eating - Gary Allen
• Cannibalism: A Perfectly Natural History - Bill Schutt
• “Hannibal and the Cannibal: Tracking Colonial Imaginaries” in Becoming: Genre, Queerness, and Transformation in NBC’s Hannibal - article by Samira Nadkarni and Rukmini Pande, collection edited by Kavita Mudan Finn and EJ Nielsen
• “The Gruesome History of Eating Corpses as Medicine” - Maria Dolan

Song

• Ludo - Horror of Our Love

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

WARNING: Explicit descriptions of graphic (and bad) sex and mild vore in this episode.

The horrors persist and so do I.

WARNING: Time stamps for potentially upsetting and/or disturbing material are below.

20:55 - 23:01 Descriptions of an*l and vag*nal sex without proper hygiene.

44:50 - 46:04 Descriptions of oral and period sex.

1:08:58 - 1:13:03 Descriptions of vore.

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

A playwright by any other name would be not Shakespeare.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• By Any Other Name by Jodi Picoult
• The Queen's Realm

Non-Fiction:

• Shakespeare Wrote Insightfully About Women. That Doesn’t Mean He Was One. by James Shapiro (The Atlantic)
• The Shakespeare Oxford Newsletter, Vol. 59, No. 3 pp. 1, 18-19 by Jonathan Bate
• Shakespeare Was Shakespeare by Isaac Butler (Slate)
• What if Shakespeare was Shakespeare? by Noah Millman (The Week)
• Cinzia DuBois’ (Lady of the Library) review of Shakespeare Was a Woman and Other Heresies (Goodreads)
• Who’s Afraid of A Black Blaise Zabini? Everyone in 2005 Harry Potter Fandom… Apparently.

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

Man cannot survive on loathing alone.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• The Mating of Elves
• Eyelet
• The Bondservant
• Lady & Maid
• Cold Blooded Beast (Full Version)
• Silver Foxed by Kayla Grosse
• Guarded by the Snake by Layla Fae
• Gotten By the Gator by Lizzie Strong
• My Orc (Fake) Boyfriend Next Door by Veronika Kane

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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Guest Host:

Our guest this week is Deepa (no pronouns), who has been in fandom since age 13 and interested in sapphic media and femslash just as long! Deepa co-hosts a Pretty Little Liars podcast with Deepa’s friend Cameron called “Don’t Forget the Chickpeas”. Deepa is barely on socials these days, but is technically on bluesky @deepasivarajan and instagram @deepa_sivarajan.

So you don't like toxic lesbian romance? God forbid a woman have hobbies.

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch From Mercury
• 5 Seconds Before a Witch Falls in Love
• Doughnuts Under a Crescent Moon
• I’m In Love With the Villainess
• Murcielago
• She Loves to Cook and She Loves to Eat
• Straight Girl Trap
• Sora and Haena
• Couple of Mirrors
• To Embers We Return
• Female General, Eldest Princess
• Purely By Accident
• Moonlight Fills The Western Tower

Non-Fiction:

•  By Your Side: The First 100 Years of Yuri Anime and Manga by Erica Friedman
• "Queer Media from the Global South: The Emerging Girls Love (GL) Media Industry of Southeast Asia", Eva Cheuk-Yin Li & Ka-Wei Pang

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)

Guest Host:

Saeed Jones is a poet and cultural critic. His most recent book, ALIVE AT THE END OF THE WORLD, won the 2023 Anisfield-Wolf Book Award for Poetry. He co-hosts VIBE CHECK with Zach Stafford and Sam Sanders. 

In Acrimony… how did she get on the boat????

Reading Recommendations:

Fiction:

• Black in Blues by Imani Perry
• Fall in Love You False Angels by Coco Uzuki
• Cackle by Rachel Harrison

Non-Fiction:

• Humiliation by Wayne Kostenbaum

Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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