Settled in Chilean Patagonia in 2004, David Dittmar is convinced that outdoor life is the best therapy for the body and soul. You'll hear how David leveraged his climbing skills into his own guiding business, adapted his offerings to meet the market and his advice for you to do the same.

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Favorite Books

The Savage Detectives, Roberto Bolano

Favorite Gear under $100

Suunto Compass

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Welcome to a podcast dedicated to outdoor enthusiasts looking to elevate their outdoor careers while embracing the freedom and joy of outdoor adventure. We dive deep into outdoor recreation, adventure travel and outdoor activities, helping you find the best outdoor jobs that fit your ideal outdoor life. Whether you're seeking career growth or just more time to get outdoors, we've got you covered.

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Today my long time outdoor compadre Kenji Haroutunian makes his 3rd appearance on the show. As longtime director of two top-fifty trade shows in the country (and many events and services beyond), Kenji's experience has afforded him a truly independent viewpoint to best understand the ebbs and flows of business trends, successes, failures and the tools that can be applied these days to make a difference.

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04:27 The pivot from outdoor retail (A16) to trade shows. I don't quite remember how that happened.

I had been managing stores, a store manager for Adventure 16 in L. A. and then in the Valley store, and was back in the L. A. store managing there. And then got a call from Larry Harrison, who was. Put on task by the outdoor retailer team to go find their next account exec. There was a long-time account executive who was leaving, and they're looking to fill that spot. And I said, like, well, what's an account executive? It's not something that I was familiar with and sounded pretty fancy, but you know, long story short, I interviewed down in Laguna Beach with the team. And then, back then, it was called Miller Freeman, who was the owner of the outdoor retailer shows. And I got hired there as a salesperson having zero experience selling space or advertising, and starting in, in earnest, my career in the media slash shows business.

08:00 The Big Gear Show

Big Gear rose up out of what was the paddle sports retailer show. So that was a show launched by a couple of guys from the paddle sports industry who became sort of unhappy with the timing of outdoor retailer. Paddle sports was a big part of the outdoor retailer show, and they passed. They took their boat, went off, and started their own show. Out of that came the desire to be more inclusive categorically. So, instead of just paddle sports, why don't we bring in hike, running, camping, and biking and create a more comprehensive and inclusive platform? And so that's where the Big Gear Show came from. It launched in 2020.

14:29 Outdoor Biz Evolution

Those trade shows were all a bunch of guides, and, you know, we were young kids who worked at the retail shop floors and stuff. It was not as sophisticated then as it is now today.

You're right. That evolution is big. And I think, you know, the infusion of capital market representatives, you know, I, it was very different. You're right. You know, during my time, for example, at the show's helm was during the time when financial investors started showing up in numbers dozens and then like hundreds of people were coming, and we even created an event for them called what's that called, Fund Source? And it was specifically designed for new brands to pitch to investment community people and get valuable feedback and maybe even score an investor, you know, in the, in the sort of mode of Shark Tank. Right. But it was, I think Camber Outdoors is helping to sponsor it.

17:10 Do you have any thoughts on how that shakes out, consolidates, and continues to expand?

I shy away from the word trade show anymore because it's kind of a loaded term.

It kind of almost by default says the old. Way or the old show model that were the outdoor industry anyway, has become passé. And I think that whatever we're going to call the new show model you know, at big gear, we call it B2B2C or just simply like an inclusive platform that makes less of a deal of your categorical status.

You know, interestingly, you know, I, I have a, well, I don't have my badge on right now, but I came in the show and they had sort of parsed the show entry timing by what kind of badge you had. So it was like, you get an eight, if you have this badge, get an 11, if you have this badge

and you're not allowed in, if you don't have this badge.

So I think that determination of who occupies what is really difficult now because. You know, who is a retailer anymore? Who is a guide outfit or influence or media, et cetera. Um, even supplier brands have, have brand, like they have products with their brand name on it, you know, Gore, for example. So it's it's a fuzzier world when you make those determinations. So creating a more inclusive show experience is I think part of the, the future equation that'll make sense and will help to, you know, In concert with several other things that need to happen.

31:48 What, what do you think are a couple of the biggest, we talked about this before we hit the record button, about the state of the outdoor industry today. What do you think are a couple of the biggest challenges facing the outdoor industry today? 

I think there's a lot of challenges. I think losing our neighborhood shops, you know, in the cities, primarily, I think shops and touch points at the trailhead and near put in and at the destinations. That's still relatively strong across the country. What I see is that the urban shops are really getting crushed.

Like they are, their costs are going up. Their inventory and open to buy situations are super stressed and they're just finding it hard to keep going. It's also a time of changeover. Like a lot of the shops like a 16 that were founded, you know, in the 60s and 70s. Those. Company owners are either looking to sell or turn over the younger generation may or may not be interested in running retail stores.

And so they're finding this, this time of change over is very active. And that's true in other, you know, related sectors like fly fishing and surf and others, but I think that's part of the challenge right now. We're still working through the inventory glut that happened from the disruption of the of the pandemic.

So get 1st. Sold, people sold everything they had and then they had nothing to sell. And then the product was getting delayed because factories were closed and then the shipping lanes were delayed because they couldn't have enough dock workers to even unload the ships. And so that just created this big lag time in the industry that we're still working through like that created this over inventory situation that we're still in right now.

37:40 How has sustainability been reflected at the Big Gear Show? What are some of the initiatives you guys have?

Well, I think on the brands and the product side, you could definitely feel it. A lot of. A presence and interest in that re commerce story. For us as a show producer, you know, shows are horribly wasteful historically.

So trying to minimize the flow of that you know, because we have such a small team, I was managing a lot of that myself. What was happening over on the outside festival side, we really wanted to participate in, but we weren't able to do it this year. But they had a composting aspect too. So they really activated a zero waste program that did a pretty good job, but it's pretty expensive because you've got to have people. Staff that are there saying, Oh, wait, that's not a composting thing. You got to put that over here.

And this is, it's sort of pre sorting. So they had staff at each of these 10 stations or however many there were. And so that's expensive because you just got to pay people for all the time that they're there, but very very impressive commitment from outside and their partners on, on the festival side of things, we want to implement. And so we've been paying close attention to. Like the flow of trash, you know, trashable things coming in. We had a space that we dedicated just for cardboard that could be reused storing it so that it was kept dry and viable. And then, you know, the companies that needed them at the end of the show, we had it for them.

So just reusing and being smarter about You know, everything from badge holders, which we didn't have, you know, no badge holders just printed on enough, you know, quality paper that it's going to stay in place and have a, have a badge holder design that is effective. And we only had that for the B2B day.

You didn't need badges or anything to come in with, we had digital waivers, so again, you know, just not piles of paper that you have to keep for years, we used a digital service for that. So. You know, little by little getting smarter as a event producer and bringing those bringing those solutions to bear at the show.

38:37 What are a couple of the brands or products you think are leading the way in sustainability? 

I guess the small brand Stream2Sea they're called they're making a product that doesn't like it's a sunscreen product Skin care product I guess you'd say but even the packaging on it is thoughtfully designed so that it's biodegradable, you know over time not in your backpack, of course, but and they have a system for being able to return that, you know empty or recycle it So just you know little thoughtful things like that.

I think some of the different stove options, you know, I think one of the big stories coming out of the stove and cooking side is. Single use propane, you know, those green ubiquitous one pound propane bottles. And then we had a pellet stove coming from Timber Stoves.

There was quite a bit, actually, especially in one of the highlights of the show was the Founders Market, which was produced by Path Ahead Ventures, REI's program for lifting up. BIPOC and women-founded organizations. Cool. And a lot of those companies are really really carefully curated to bring like really thoughtful, more sustainable solutions to the market, as well as, you know, better solutions for groups that historically haven't been addressed, whether that's different body shapes or just, you know, disabled folks.

But that, you know, that's different than sustainability in a way. It is sustainability, but it's the same. Yeah. Way It's the same.

42:28 With all the talk lately of PFAS and things you know, we're discovering that are maybe worse off than we thought. How do you think, or do you think we can do more or maybe. Do some of it faster because it seems like maybe just, you know, guys like us, we're running out of time, but I think about my niece and nephew in the world, we're going to leave them and, you know, some of these things we've got to implement these programs like last week, and it seems like it takes a lot of energy and thought and conversation and things to get everybody's head around it to implement any thoughts on that.

Yeah, I'm pretty active in California with the California Direct Creation Partnership that I helped found back in twenty-eighteen in addressing these aspects because you know, the way that the legislation first came out was basically saying that at retail, there can't be p fast in any of the products you sell after January first twenty-five or whatever the date was, and this is like, hey.

Hold on a second. We, as the industry, believe in eliminating PFAS, just like we believe in eliminating BPA, just like we believe in using post-consumer recycled ingredients, and just like we believe in circular economy solutions. However, starting with the retail side starts with the horse's tail instead of the front.

Like you've got to start at the supply chain side. Get them to stop using it, and then you can regulate. If that's a word regulation-wise, you can, you know, move down the chain. So you start at the fiber manufacturer, then you go to the fabric manufacturer, then you go to the. Apparel manufacturer, then you go to the wholesaler, then you go to the retailer and then you go to the, you know, the consumer and give them a way to get rid of that stuff or to cycle it in a way that doesn't end up with just plastic in the ocean or in the landfill.

So I think more plastic in the ocean or the landfill. This is the reason why business. And government partnerships, you know, are the really so important to how we move forward, whether it is keeping PFAS out of our bodies and out of our ecosystems or doing a better job of working with tribes and taking that native knowledge and that stewardship mindedness.

Of, you know, thousands of years of indigenous presence and and honoring that all of these things mean disrupting the current flow. And that's hard. You know, if a river is flowing super fast, it's pretty hard to get it to move in a different direction. And that's what we're trying to do. We're changing the culture.

We're changing the entire culture of an industry, like changing our own personal culture. It's hard enough doing it for your family or your community is. Super hard and takes longer doing it for an entire industry that has all these moving parts across the country and across the globe like that's, that's going to take years.

So I think part of this is just learning to keep I had a coach when I paddled out rigor and he had this phrase, you know, we would use because outrigger races are sometimes. Really long like 20 miles 30 miles. Yeah, and it's just smooth power, like keep the pressure on keep applying the pressure. Don't burn yourself out because you've got an hour and a half more to keep paddling.

Don't run out. Don't burn yourself out, but smooth power, you know, and you'll keep keep the rhythm. Keep the power going. That's what we need. We need rhythm and we need, we need gentle applied power. That's. Consistent. Kind of like you and your podcast.

47:02 Where do you see the Big Gear Show in the next three to five years, say? What's that evolution look like?

I think we have to keep adapting and building this new model. And I think that the future of it is going to be more more events. Kind of surrounding the main event. So I guess I think of it as like a constellation of stars or something like we've created the critical mass in the center, and now we're just, you know, you, you mentioned ATT elevate.

Like I know Shannon's thinking about maybe that belongs in orbit with. The outside festival and the CEO summit idea. And I participated in an Asian outdoor leaders group meeting. They know little things that start to build around the core. People bring their sales meetings to town. That's always happened back at the old show, right?

Those are the things that create. The critical mass and get people to say, you know what, I really need to be there. And the more you do that across more sectors, across more job functions and you know, the workforce part of the industry, the more that'll bring the industry to bear. And create that critical mass.

So I think that's the future is continuing to work partnerships. I think partnerships are what fuel that that type of you know, critical mass building.

52:52 What is your favorite piece of outdoor gear under a hundred dollars?

I think last time I, I said headlamps and I still think headlamps are amazing.

56:58 Is there a memorable outdoor adventure or experience that has influenced your work side of the world?

Yeah, absolutely. One of my bigger adventures was skiing the high route across the Sierra from Independence to Fresno, basically.

Yeah. And I, in that experience because I was with Jeff Cooper, Dan Dalbera, and Suniva Sorby, it was great; it was pretty well documented. So I have images from that, and I can tell the story. It's a story that's relevant to people who want to ski the high route, but it's also relevant to a number of different objectives or just, um, inspiration for businesses who are facing challenges as a team or challenges as a marketplace.

And it's even helpful for for our journalists and people like I, I, I use that story was included in Jeannette Stawski's recent book, The Outdoor Leader recent book called The Outdoor Leader. So I have an excerpt in there from this trip that I did, you know, and that, that I learned so much about not just, you know, how to backcountry ski a multi day like big, big objective.

Yeah. Kind of thing, but also about leadership, about following, you know, when the right time is to be following and leading when the, when you're needed to be leading, and that is, It reminds me of kind of this uh, the dynamic in leadership. Like you don't always have to be the big, bad boss. You know, there's times to hand over the boss reins to your up and coming leader or identifying who is, who are your up and coming leaders and investing in them.

And then when the time comes, they have the skills and they have the ability to go out and go for it and take up, take the reins. And I learned a lot about that during this trip where I was not the trip leader. But I had to become the leader for, for at least a while away.

59:44 Do you have any advice for anyone looking to break into the outdoor industry?

My standard answer is for people who have, you know, been asking me this question for decades, I say, well, best way started retail, learn the retail ropes, go with the front lines, talk to people who are just getting into it or need a new piece of gear or need some advice about where to go and what to do. And you'll learn. Where the point pressure points are, where the pain points are, where the opportunities are, where the products are.

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Welcome to a podcast dedicated to outdoor enthusiasts looking to elevate their outdoor careers while embracing the freedom and joy of outdoor adventure. We dive deep into outdoor recreation, adventure travel and outdoor activities, helping you find the best outdoor jobs that fit your ideal outdoor life. Whether you're seeking career growth or just more time to get outdoors, we've got you covered.

I'm thrilled to catch up with Rob Holmes today. Rob is the founder of GLP Films, and their mission is to help brands reach sustainability goals, protect nature, communities, culture, and heritage through the lens of storytelling and content marketing.

Facebook Twitterhttps://www.instagram.com/theoutdoorbizpodcast/Instagram   The Outdoor Biz Podcast   Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, and share!   Sign up for my Newsletter HERE.   I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here: email: rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com or leave me a message on Speakpipe!   Show Notes How Rob was introduced to the Outdoors

My real connection with the outdoors started with my dad and going out on these crazy adventures with him and my two older brothers. The funny thing is my dad was a Southern boy. He's from Tennessee. He knew absolutely nothing about the outdoors. I mean, I, I don't know if he knew anything but someone helped him get the equipment and things that we needed, external backpacks and all that stuff from back then. Honestly, that really, if I had to celebrate my real connection to it. He had two weeks of vacation every year and those would be dedicated to taking his three crazy sons out.

When he picked up his first camera

I had a Pentax K 2000, so if that doesn't date me, I don't know what does. But my getting into photography, was really just my passion thing. It hit me really, I think in college, when, you're exposed to a lot of courses. I went to a small liberal arts college in upstate New York, Hobart College. And I majored in environmental studies, and wildlife management. So sort of this odd combination I had to petition the school cause they had nothing around wildlife. I took one photography class and you take that black-and-white photography class everybody takes to get your entry-level photo class. I got, I think a B, but I remember that I didn't like any of the history stuff. I just wanted to shoot the camera. That's all I wanted to do.

The start of GLP Film

I pretty much was doing freelance. I did some independent projects with organizations, some nonprofits out of Seattle, and one in particular called the Tibetan Nuns Project. It was a small NGO. They had a project on the Tibetan side of India. So I went there for three consecutive years just to shoot their calendar. They had an annual calendar, but that was one example of a project. But more importantly, I did a lot of solo work. When I was in Seattle, I went to grad school. At the University of Washington, I actually got into the business. So I got an MBA, which again, that was the last thing I thought I'd ever get, but I got an MBA and, after school, I started with a company, in the digital content space, in the outdoor industry.

The inspiration for GLP Films

I had these three different sorts of stools and the legs of the stool that I like to look at.

One was this real passion for conservation. I had a real passion for the outdoors. I worked for the Appalachian Mountain Club for five years. Worked for nonprofits like The Nature Conservancy. So I had a real interest in and passion and conservation. That was one stool. I think the other was obviously media, I started in photography and got into video. I think on the video side, the turning point for me was Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth. Seeing that in 2006, I think it was the number-one at that time documentary film of all time. And if you can take a slideshow and make it the highest-grossing documentary film, there's something there. And, it really was just the power of video.

And, it really was just the power of video. And I saw that and I used it to go to the Seattle International Film Festival every year. And I would go to all the documentary films on international. I would just go myself, sit in the back row, buy all these random tickets, looking for the most far-flung countries in the world. So I got really into documentaries. So that was the second leg.

And then the third leg was business. That entrepreneurship bug hit me as a young kid. And I ended up getting a graduate degree. I studied in India and South Africa and Brazil while going to business school. And so for me I wanna combine these three components.

Rob's advice for folks that want to get into photography or shoot films?

I will say though, in hindsight, because I do know a lot of very successful photographers is . . . the classic . . . focus on what you do. Find your niche and become the absolute best in what you do. Just make sure that you love what you're doing. Because at the end you're gonna work more as an entrepreneur or small business. You're gonna have to be a go-getter. And, it's tough to have that energy if you don't like what you're doing. So just make sure that you focus on whatever your niche is and your specialty.

And become the absolute best, just make sure you love it. And then I think the other point though, is network network network, really leverage your local regional, national, global audience because that really is going to be the key to how you get your content out there, your work out there, your expertise out there for others to pick you up.

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Daily Routines

My big thing is getting outdoors. So, I run and have Qualified for Boston twice. So I'm a big runner. I love to bike, I'm in Kennebunkport, Maine. So, I'm right along the coast, I feel very, very lucky where we are. And so I'm running, biking, walking, every day.

Favorite Books

I'm more on the newspaper side than the magazine side. I would say on the newspaper side New York times. I mean some of the best editorial content globally.

Magazines- I've always been a fan of Outside.

Expedition Books- Galen Rowell

Favorite piece of outdoor gear

MSR Whisper Light

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Enjoy this replay of my conversation with one of my environmental heroes Doug Peacock. I was fortunate to meet Doug at an Earth First! Rendezvous in Idaho in 1988. I'm just finishing his newest book "Was it Worth It", from Patagonia Books. Doug and I talk about his many adventures, his love for wildness, and his current work to save the Yellowstone Grizzly.

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My dad was a boy scout organizer. So he would go up to the woods and lead them and organize boy scout troops operated in the woods. And I would be too little to be a boy scout.

So I got cut loose to just run wild in the woods and catch turtles and hunt squirrels, whatever, everything. And that's how I grew up.

Books

Was It Worth It?: A Wilderness Warrior's Long Trail Home

In the Shadow of the Sabertooth:
A Renegade Naturalist Considers Global Warming, the First Americans and the Terrible Beasts of the Pleistocene

The Essential Grizzly: The Mingled Fates of Men and Bears 

Walking It Off:  A Veteran's Chronicle of War and Wilderness

¡Baja!

Grizzly Years: In Search of the American Wilderness

Favorite Gear

Korean war Mickey Mouse boots, those black things

Advice

At Save the Yellowstone Grizzly, actually, we're looking for help. People that can be tablers in Yellowstone National Park, and just talk to people about bears and hand out brochures, and stuff like that.

Writers/Books

"You want it dense, really high specific gravity. I remember carrying the Odyssey, Moby Dick, and I carried one of Jimmy Harrison's books out there. And after Ed died, I had to read Hayduke Lives, so I took it out there. Lately, I've just read a book by Joy Williams. And oh hell just three or four nights ago I cooked dinner for Richard Powers and Gretel Ehrlich and David & Betsy Quammen."

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The Immortalist

Follow up with Doug Doug Peacock   Save the Yellowstone Grizzly   Welcome to a podcast dedicated to outdoor enthusiasts looking to elevate their outdoor careers while embracing the freedom and joy of outdoor adventure. We dive deep into outdoor recreation, adventure travel, and outdoor activities, helping you find the best outdoor jobs that fit your ideal outdoor life. Whether you're seeking career growth or just more time to get outdoors, we've got you covered.

"Welcome to episode 360 of The Outdoor Biz Podcast, today I'm speaking with Peter Driver from Piscari Fly. Peter tells us how he's been fishing since he was a kid, The Piscari Fly Business on the River Nore in Ireland and, the World Class Ireland Trout fishing."

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I grew up in the mountains in County Wicklow in a small village called Rathdrum and, in the village, we had a river running through called the Avonmore River. It's probably one of the most spectacular rivers we have in Ireland for scenery and beauty. It's absolutely stunning, but the whole community was kind of based around the river, and fly fishing was huge in that community. But my dad and all his brothers would've been a big fly fishermen and big competition anglers back in the day when I was only a wee boy.

Tell us about the shop

We sell a whole shebang. Whatever you need for fly fishing or fly tying we got it. If we haven't got it we'll, we get it. But we do have one motto. I've always kind of built the business on a personal thing that if I'm not gonna use itself, there's a good chance I'm not gonna stock it. You know, we're very particular about what we stock in the shop. We do have a range from all over the world.

The Inspiration for Piscari Fly

It was a simple thing, I was really struggling on getting high-quality tungsten beads over here in Ireland. Here you're buying 'em from here and there and they were Ok. They were coming in different sizes, different colors, different coats, and different weights. And it was really frustrating for me as a Competition Tyer. Sort of on the second time around that. So, I contacted some Tungsten bead companies in China and you know, over a six-month to a year period, we kinda came up with our own chunks of beads and I had to buy 'em in such large bulk that it made sense just to start selling some and, it just started from there and it just built and built and built.

What's your favorite piece of gear under a hundred dollars?

Skafars indicator wax

One of the other things that I bought that I would not fish without is my knee pads. A good set of knee pads or shin guards, they have saved my life so many times. And you can find em here for 50 euros.

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I recently met Allie Nichols from Osmo Nutrition at the Running Event in Austin, Texas and today Allie shares why Osmo is the best-tasting sports nutrition to ensure the best performance for pro-level athletes as well as us active recreational outdoor lovers.

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Welcome to episode 359 of The Outdoor Biz Podcast, tonight I'm speaking with Forloh's Andy Techmanski. Forloh is a relatively new brand in the technical apparel space and Andy is here to share his inspiration and talk about the unique new products and technologies they have brought to market.

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We were always hunting with three or four generations, of hunters and started as early as I can remember, three, four years old going out with a stick beating bushes and everything, right? Playing bird dog and you know, everything else from my dad and grandfather.

03:03 What was the inspiration behind Forough?

You know, spending a lot of money on gear that just wouldn't work all year. So I started to brainstorm the idea and it was something that evolved over five years before I actually started Forough.

04:07 Where's the name come from?

FORLOH is an acronym for "For Love of Hunting".

31:30 Do you have any suggestions or advice for folks wanting to get into the outdoor apparel business?

I will tell you this, you know, when we got into this, we absolutely got into it to not hurt any of the other brands out there you know, we were starting something completely different. Made in the USA, using different technologies, so on and so forth. There's a lot of room in the industry for others.

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Today I'm joined by Liza Amlani and Raj Dhiman from the Retail Strategy Group. Liza is the Principal of Retail Strategy Group and Raj is the Chief Rainmaker and Co-Founder at Retail Strategy Group. We got together at The Running Event in Austin Texas to review their Retail Playbook.

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Liza Amlani is the go-to expert in retail merchandising, product creation, and accelerating speed to market. She is the Principal of Retail Strategy Group: a consulting practice helping brands and retailers dramatically improve profitability and increase organizational effectiveness.

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Raj Dhiman Ph.D. is the Chief Rainmaker and Co-Founder at Retail Strategy Group. He is an expert in tech sales having sold software for over seven years. He is a respected sales coach and has elevated the performance of hundreds of sales professionals.

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Welcome to episode 358 of the Outdoor Biz Podcast and my conversation with Iain Miller. Iain is the founder of Unique Ascent in Donegal, Ireland. Iain says they provide fundamentally two services, the first is a unique and extensive guiding service, and the second is a mountain training service in which they provide Mountain Training courses and assessments. Brought to you by Tourism Ireland, Failte Ireland, and Steller

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Oh, well, I'm 52 now, and I've been, I've been playing outside mainly trekking and hill walking or hiking since I was about 12, and then as soon as I got my first car I was just off hiking on my own around Scotland.

03:05 How Iain became a guide?

All the things in life are not planned. It just happens that the more you do something, the more people hear or see that you're doing something. I was rock climbing. I moved to Donegal and I was rock climbing the sea stacks and stuff there. And the more I did, the more people contacted me. Before long I was taking people out.

04:15 Which of your activities are the most popular?

The most popular is sea stack climbing. People just want to do something that's different.

18:17 If you could share one tip for anyone coming to Ireland to climb, what would that be?

In coming to Ireland, the chances are that they're coming from a place where there's going to be a lot of bolts in the rock that they've climbed. I don't wanna say there's no place, but there are very few places with bolted roots. When you come to Ireland to climb, you're likely gonna be on your own. So having your own gear, getting a guidebook, working with the weather, getting things done. There's more, perhaps more chance for disappointment with weather and not finding cracks, it's just not a big sport, so just, be ready to have a, have a look about, you may not climb, but you'll have a nice day anyway

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Welcome to episode 357 of the Outdoor Biz Podcast and my conversation with Adam Ruggiero from Gear Junkie. We wander all over the place . . . from how he got connected with Gear Junkie to the piece of gear he feels we haven't quite gotten dialed in yet. Brought to you this month by The Running Event.

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Colin True has held a variety of roles in the Outdoor Biz. and is the founder of Rock Fight LLC and writer and producer of the Layers Podcast by Polartec. He is ALL IN ON Podcasts. We talk about the value of podcasting for brands and retailers, Colin walks us through the Layers Podcast, and plenty more! 

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Amit Jaipuria joins me from Postcard Travel. Amit and his team are Inspiring a New Generation of Mindful Travelers Through Storytelling. At Postcard, they believe responsible travel starts with building empathy and educating travelers about the people and places they visit. They invite travel writers, hotels, travel designers, industry groups, and tourism boards to come together and showcase local stories of their people, history, culture, food, nature, and wildlife. They share these stories with a global community of travelers and invite them to book with their partners.

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Hello again everyone. Welcome to episode 451 of the Outdoor Biz Podcast. Today, I'm speaking with fellow OWAA member Emanuel Rose. Emanuel is an author, outdoorsman, and marketing expert. He says his love for the natural world has been a constant in his life, and he finds joy in exploring towering forests and the energy of the ocean. His childhood fantasy of discovering special wild places inspired him to write, and his children's book series is growing as a result of that passion.

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06:10 Emanuel started writing in childhood, shifted to children's books for grandchildren.

09:41 Emanuel is working on two projects, one about mentoring Gen Z and the other for Gen Z on how to be dynamic individuals. They also wrote about the importance of showing leadership in detoxing from technology and triggering more outdoor time.

12:35 Started a podcast because I was seeking to engage in conversations, provide resources for marketing and AI, and inspire outdoor exploration and wilderness activities.

15:39 re: podcasts, as the host, having the talent and the control allows for selecting guests and topics based on personal interest and connection to outdoor retail wholesale space.

17:21 Authentic Marketing in the Age of AI-AI Marketing: The text is a conversation about the challenges of marketing in the modern world. It focuses on the importance of simplifying marketing efforts and getting back to basics, such as addressing people's concerns in a human-to-human manner and making transactions easy for them. The speaker emphasizes the need to move away from getting lost in key performance indicators (KPIs) and various tools, and instead, focusing on solving problems, providing solutions, and effectively communicating with people.

21:00 Daily Routine: Morning writing and client work, followed by leisure activities in the afternoon such as golf, workouts, or mini adventures. I can easily access nature within an hour.

25:54 Including specific details when reaching out to someone generates better questions and improves the interaction. It's a great tip for effective communication.

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Today on Episode 354 of the Outdoor Biz Podcast I'm joined by Rachel Dodds the Director of Sustainable Tourism – a boutique consulting firm. 

A dynamic, self-starter with over 25 years of international experience across a wide spectrum of the tourism industry.

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Paul O'Reilly from Inland Fisheries Ireland gets us Fishing for Brown Trout at a small lake called Derry Lee in Connemara Ireland with Adam Conroy from Clifden Anglers.

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Welcome to Episode 353 of the Outdoor Biz Podcast. Today I'm joined by Dana 3 Gleason from Mystery Ranch. He recently got the "Keys to the Kingdom" as he takes on the role of Director of Product at Mystery Ranch.

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Welcome to episode 352 of The Outdoor Biz Podcast. Today I'm joined by Christina Henderson, TRE Event Director talking about the launch of Switchback for Outdoor at The Running Event.

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From Japan to Jacksonville Mark and his family want to show fellow travelers the world. As a family of four who has spent decades living, traveling, and working abroad they appreciate honesty in travel and aim to give that to others to help make the most of their precious travel time and Mark is here to tell us all about it.

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Today I'm joined by Amy Kapp from Rails to Trails Conservancy. Amy has more than 18 years of experience in print and digital content creation, editorial management, and outdoor journalism. Having joined the RTC team in 2014 as editor of Rails to Trails magazine and the TrailBlog, she focuses on telling the story of the impact of trails on America.

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Rory Martin from Strangford Lough Activity Centre joins Rick after a paddle around Strangford Lough, Ireland.

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Duck's Unlimited Great Plains Communications Specialist Jennifer Kross shares her waterfowl and wetland ecology background and how she communicates what Ducks Unlimited does and how and why they do it.

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Today on episode 348 of The Outdoor Biz Podcast Houdini Sportswear Head of Brand Engagement & DTC Sales Niclas Bornling tells us how an odd band of scientists, artists, designers, and adventurers, are pushing the boundaries of how outdoor clothing is made.

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Noah and the passionate Erem team of gear junkies, activists, and desert rats are motivated every day to produce the best, most environmentally sustainable desert footwear possible. They are also committed to planting one million cactus pear cacti, which have huge potential in the fight against climate change.

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Jonathan Chester has photographed on all seven continents, and specializes in documenting the wild, remote, and extreme and is equally at home in urban and rural settings, covering nature, landscapes, and environmental themes. He continues to guide and lecture on adventure cruises in the Arctic and Antarctic.

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51:13 Thanks for tuning in to the Outdoor Biz Podcast. Visit our website for show notes and subscribe to never miss an episode. Spread the word and leave a rating on Apple Podcasts.

00:00 Jonathan Grew up in Adelaide, enjoyed nature, joined scouts, and wanted to be a scuba diver.

03:19 The University underwater club led to a scuba diving career.

07:41 you always learn more from getting into hairy situations and trouble than you do when everything goes smoothly.

When everything goes smoothly, it's like, it's too easy, right? The aphorism that, you know, good judgment is the product of experience, but experience quite often is a lot of bad judgment and a lot of sort of uncomfortable or difficult circumstances.

10:35 Decided not to be a guide, became a photojournalist and storyteller for 35 years.

14:08 Exciting sailing journey leads to Antarctic expedition.

18:27 Since 1978, Jonathan has sold photos and stories in magazines.

19:52 Had a career in presenting slideshows in Australia, learned power of storytelling, moved away from climbing and photography.

24:36 Struggling to retrieve rope, dropped camera lens, still works.

28:21 Advancements in power sources for remote travel and photography, including lithium battery packs and solar panels, have made it easier to stay charged while on the move. These technologies have also influenced the capabilities of drones for capturing aerial photography.

30:18 Travel and technology have unavoidable carbon costs.

35:30 Passionate about landscape photography, finds power in nature, and emphasizes creating rather than just taking photos. Utilizes zoom lenses for convenience.

37:15 Staying safe and comfortable while working in the field. Good gear, fitness, and routines are important for photography in challenging conditions. Multiple bodies are useful for quick changes.

40:28 Favorite piece of outdoor gear under a hundred dollars: I always wanna make sure I'm well hydrated and have some decent gloves.

41:58 Favorite book: one of the best reading books about the history of the Antarctic peninsula is called The Storied Ice by Joan Booth. And there's a wonderful biography of Frank Hurley by a colleague of mine, Alistair McGregor. Frank Hurley, A Photographers Life.

40:46 Outdoor essentials: hydration, layered gloves for photography, multi-functional trekking pole.

45:19 The author discusses the importance of photo books and collaboration with a writer, encouraging others to publish.

46:11 Jonathan is excited about the new climbing book, The Art of Climbing, by an Australian, Simon Carter. He's proud of his own books and admires wildlife photographers.

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This week on episode 346 of The Outdoor Biz Podcast I'm joined by Ginny Garner from Casper College in Wyoming. Ginny and I talk about her work-life history, why she loves living in Casper, and all the great things going on in the Tourism and Recreation curriculum at Casper College. If you want to work in tourism and or recreation this is a must-listen!

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Originally from the PNW Steven left his career as an engineer in early 2020 to move into a van full-time, and pursue personal goals in rock climbing and traveling around the country interviewing world-class climbers to tease out the habits and routines that got them where they are today. Steven and I talk about some of that inspiration, how he got into climbing, and of course podcasts.

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This week on The Outdoor Biz Podcast we have a repeat guest, we first heard from Ammi Borenstein from Snaplinc Consulting back in 2019 talking about sustainability activities in outdoor product production. Ammi and I spoke a few weeks ago and there have been quite a few changes in those 3 years so . . . he's back!

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This week I'm thrilled to be speaking with Chris Paparo. Born and raised on Long Island Chris has been exploring the wilds of the Island for over 30 years. As the owner of Fish Guy Photos, he's a wildlife photographer, writer, lecturer, member of @OWAA and New York State Outdoor Writers, and currently manages the Marine Sciences Center at the Southampton campus of Stony Brook University.

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Welcome to episode 342 of The Outdoor Biz Podcast. Today I'm talking with Outdoor Journalist and OWAA member Rob Annis. I met Rob in Casper, WY at the OWAA conference. In this episode, Rob tells us what it's like to write for a living. We talk about the travel, the clients, deadlines, and he shares a great tip about getting ideas sitting at a bar with a guidebook open!

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Liza Amlani has over 20 years of Industry knowledge and Experience in Merchandising, Buying, Product Development, and Sourcing with Luxury and Mass Merchant Retailers in both Regional and Global markets and has some progressive thoughts on traditional retail business. We get into a little of that and plenty more in this wide-ranging conversation.

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Andy Palmer from The Adventure Portal made a visit to the Eastern Sierra recently and we wandered around the Upper Owens and East Walker Rivers for four days or so creating content for NIMBL Vehicles and Slumberjack.

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Welcome to episode 339 of The Outdoor Biz Podcast. Fellow Podcaster, Business Coach, and OWAA compadre Howard Fox drops by to talk about his two podcasts. We also drop plenty of ideas small and large businesses can implement through podcasting to inspire followers and grow revenue.

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Have you wanted to sing the Russian National Anthem . . . with an army general in a brothel bar in Yemen? Or get chased by pirates off the coast of Africa? This week on Episode 338 Patrick Schulte of Wanderer Financial shares those stories and how he and his family live the wanderer life traveling the world!

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This week on episode 337 OrthoLites' newest footwear technology, Cirql, has been making waves in the industry. Cirql technology is aimed at helping usher the footwear industry towards a more sustainable and environmentally sound future and newly enlisted Chief Brand Officer Kristin Burrows is here to tell us all about it!

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Hello again, everyone. Welcome to episode 449 of the Outdoor Biz Podcast. This week, I'm talking with Lauren Hefferon. Lauren has been a devoted cyclist for over 40 years. While in high school in Southern NH, Lauren discovered her passion for pedaling after a serious ski injury prevented her from downhill ski racing and playing many team sports. Upon graduation with a degree in Graphic Design in Mass Art, Laure decided to follow her entrepreneurial cravings and launched Ciclismo Classico. Their mission is to inspire active travelers to embrace cycling as a soulful form of travel that connects us with the world and to the passionate, curious, and creative human spirit.

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Show Notes

00:00 Rick Saez shares outdoor industry insights, interviews, and product innovation on the Outdoor Biz Podcast.

03:30 Lauren grew up without a bicycle in the 1960s, until she got her purple Schwinn.

06:34 Art and curiosity drive Lauren's varied interest in anthropology.

11:21 After Cornell, Lauren toured Europe, worked as a tour guide in Italy.

13:30 Created educational bike tours, focused on teaching, not luxury. Started with Pisa to Florence itinerary.

17:21 Some of the early challenges were in bike quality and hotel operations.

20:59 Lauren believe in learning through bicycle tours.

24:25 Promotion of lesser-known trips in Italy creates a succession of tours.

27:57 The goal is to create memorable and safe experiences on bicycle trips, including organizing a surprise performance by the Cortina Choir in the Dolomites.

31:20 Switching from driving tours to biking trips, aiming for full human-powered travel, with exceptions for uninteresting or traffic-heavy stretches.

32:53 Gravel riding in Tuscany and other regions is popular.

35:25 Prefer phone calls for personal connection in planning bicycle trips. Focus on understanding and personalizing experience.

40:44 I love Mary Oliver's nature poems. They remind me to be grateful.

42:01 Cycling should be enjoyed at your own pace, not about speed or sleekness, akin to a ski vacation.

45:37 E-bikes are extending cycling age range and accessibility.

49:32 Lauren turned cyclist after a knee injury, emphasizing the importance of low-impact exercise.

51:13 Thanks for tuning in to the Outdoor Biz Podcast. Visit our website for show notes and subscribe to never miss an episode. Spread the word and leave a rating on Apple Podcasts.

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You can follow up with Lauren on Facebook and Instagram by email: and call her directly at: 617-640-4837. That's my cell phone. And then our 800 number is 1-800-866-7314. And our company is www.cyclismoclassico.com

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I'm thrilled to catch up with Rob Holmes today. Rob is the founder of GLP Films, and their mission is to help brands reach sustainability goals, and protect nature, communities, culture, and heritage through the lens of storytelling and content marketing.

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If learning to sail is on your bucket list you'll love this episode with Nautilus Sailing founder Tim Geisler. Tim tells us how Nautilus Sailing came to life, what learning to sail is like with Nautilus, and shares a success story of someone who began with no skills and is now a proficient sailor.

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Gary Lenett from Duer Jeans drops by and talks about how the idea for jeans made to move came to life, making jeans out of Eucalyptus trees, and much more in our wide-ranging conversation.

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Colin True has held a variety of roles in the Outdoor Biz and is the founder of Rock Fight LLC and the writer and producer of the Layers podcast by Polartec. He is ALL IN ON Podcasts. We talk about the value of podcasting for brands and retailers, Colin walks us through the Layers Podcast, and plenty more! Brought to you this month by Thrive Market.

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Episode 332 of The Outdoor Biz Podcast with Kenji Haroutunian and Lance Camisasca from The Big Gear Show. We talk about the success of the inaugural Big Gear Show and what we can expect this time out!

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Welcome to Episode 331 of The Outdoor Biz Podcast with Geartrade Founder Aaron Provine. Aaron tells us how you can buy and sell the gear you love for your outdoor adventures. Keep your gear out of landfills and give it a longer life . . . it's the UnNew outdoor!

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Welcome to episode 330 of the Outdoor Biz Podcast with Stephen Barnes. Stephen recently partnered up with Bryan Wachs and together they've recently launched The Outdoor Rec co-op. Stephen and I dive deeper into the central idea behind their co-op which is to put the power in the hands of the employees and engage and incentivize them to grow companies for their own futures as well as the future of the company!

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Welcome to Episode 329 of The Outdoor Biz Podcast with Aaron Kindle, Director of Sporting Advocacy with the National Wildlife Federation. Aaron is a lifelong Westerner, originally from Wyoming, who possesses a deep appreciation for the West, its people, and its wild country. 

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Sara Ellis is a Global Product Specialist within Gore Fabric's Consumer Garments business unit, leading a cross-functional development team to bring new product innovations to market. Gore is a global manufacturer of diverse products, most well-known for its ingredient GORE-TEX product brand. Currently, Sara is supporting development efforts behind a new material platform for its GORE-TEX brand in an effort to continuously deliver high-performing products, while lowering the environmental footprint.

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Episode 327 of The Outdoor Biz Podcast features Envoy B2B's Matt Dobrowolski and Gabe Maier from BrandKeep sharing their insights and surprises from the Envoy B2B 2022 Retailer Challenge report, Brought to you by Envoy B2B.

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This week I'm talking with Chris and Kelly Kibbee, founders of No Limits Scuba in Tempe Arizona. If you're just discovering scuba or looking to go professional, No Limits Scuba sets you apart on your path, by offering the highest quality and standards for safety and fun.

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Show Notes

06:25 Dream of scuba shop ownership fulfilled; now No Limits Scuba has been a full-time career for 11 years.

09:57 Thriving desert diving community offers surprising vibrancy.

11:23 Arizona and Colorado compete for most divers.

16:11 Training leads to becoming a diving instructor. Skills prepare for teaching and responsibility.

19:56 Progress through courses to gain new diving skills and specialties.

22:49 Gradual diving program tailored to individual goals.

24:44 Traveling fosters a sense of community through scuba diving, creating lasting connections with a group of dedicated individuals who become like family.

27:13 Instructor helped mentee become a successful scuba diving instructor.

30:21 Arizona offers diverse outdoor activities, including snowboarding and hiking. The state's geographical diversity allows for cooler, higher elevations just a few hours north of the valley, providing a refreshing escape from the heat.

36:15 Enjoys both biographies and fiction, recently read some of Nick Offerman's books, specifically recommending "Paddle Your Own Canoe" for its solid comedic approach to living a meaningful life and Dark Tower series by Stephen King.

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You can follow up with Chris and Kelly on Facebook and Instagram and by email: chris@nolimitesscuba.com and kelly@nolimitesscuba.com

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#Scuba diving, #Outdoor gear, #SCUBA certification, #Scuba instructors, #PADI, #Open water training, #Survival skills, #Underwater world, #Exotic destinations#No Limits Scuba, #Marine life, #Dive shop, #Desert diving, #Dive school, #tropical locations, #Professional certification, #Outdoor industry, #Underwater exploration, #Scuba lessons

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I get to speak with one of my environmental heroes Doug Peacock. I was fortunate to meet Doug at an Earth First! Rendezvous in Idaho in 1988. I'm just finishing his newest book "Was it Worth It", from Patagonia Books. Doug and I talk about his many adventures, love for wildness, and his current work to save the Yellowstone Grizzly.

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Welcome to Episode 325 of The Outdoor Biz Podcast. Robin Hall says that her passions are Planet + Kids + Community + Outdoors and she is putting her heart and soul into her startup Town Hall Outdoor Co. She tells us about their kids' outdoor gear and how they are having so much fun! 

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30-year glove manufacturing veteran Gary Schloss felt obliged and inspired to bring a protective glove to market and help offer a solution to contain the spread of COVID-19. Gary and his team delivered that solution in the Spring of 2020 and he's here to tell us all about it.

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