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What is a Museum Hotel?27 Aug 202401:02:09

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan chats with Sarah Robbins, the COO of 21C Museum Hotels, a unique chain that combines modern art and comfortable accommodations. They talk through what it takes to run both a thriving hospitality business AND a compelling art operation. Plus,

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

“North to Alaska”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoqVPcXDtUs 

21C Museum Hotel

https://www.21cmuseumhotels.com/ 

New UNESCO World Heritage Sites

https://www.euronews.com/culture/2024/08/02/a-roman-road-sand-dunes-and-gold-mines-these-are-the-24-new-unesco-world-heritage-sites-fo

Dems whipping airlines into shape

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/01/g-s1-14662/airline-junk-fees-family-seating-dot  

The Hamptons13 Aug 202400:49:11

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys put on their finest yacht-wear and head to that enclave of the rich and famous, The Hamptons. Kiernan talks about what exactly “The Hamptons” refers to, logistics of exploring there as a tourist, and a few cultural treasures hidden out among the seaside mansions.

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Hamptons Jitney

https://www.hamptonjitney.com/hjmobile/

Surf Lodge

https://thesurflodge.com/ 

Montauk Point Lighthouse

https://montaukhistoricalsociety.org/montauk-point-lighthouse/ 

Coopers Beach

https://www.discoverlongisland.com/listing/coopers-beach/1047/ 

Parrish Art Museum

https://parrishart.org/ 

Pollock-Krasner House

https://artistshomes.org/site/pollock-krasner-house-and-study-center 

Green River Cemetery

https://greenrivercemetery.org/ 

Museo Cacao

https://museocacao.com/ 

Palmero’s Breaththrough Saint

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/03/world/europe/palermo-catholic-saint-hindu-pantheon.html  

Buy “Secret Boston: An Unusual Guide”

https://bookshop.org/p/books/secret-boston-an-unusual-guide-kiernan-schmitt/21037780?ean=9782361957179 

https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Boston-Unusual-Guide-guides/dp/2361957175 

Italian Cuisine Expert Fred Plotkin is BACK!16 Apr 202401:21:33

On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan digs in on regional Italian cuisine with one of the show’s most interesting guests ever: opera and Italian cuisine expert Fred Plotkin. Fred talks us through some of the most popular and most obscure foods of Italy, sharing history and wonderful anecdotes all along the way. Part 2 of 3!

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

“Italy for Food Lovers”

https://store.ricksteves.com/shop/p/italy-for-food-lovers

Fred Plotkin biography

https://www.wqxr.org/people/fred-plotkin/ 

The Atlantic’s “Crying Myself to Sleep on the Biggest Cruise Ship Ever” by Gary Shteyngart

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/05/royal-caribbean-cruise-ship-icon-of-seas/677838/

CNN’s Grandmother and Son Are on the Move

https://www.cnn.com/travel/grandma-joy-ryan-grandson-seven-continents/index.html 

Trip Planning With ChatGPT02 Apr 202401:00:43

On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan grades ChatGPT, evaluating its organization of three weekend getaways. Ryan shares tips on how to correctly leverage ChatGPT for travel plans. Introducing a fresh segment, "The Layover," Ryan chats with Tommy Wallach from Hatch Escapes on the launch of their latest immersive adventure, "The Ladder."

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

ChatGPT:
https://chat.openai.com/

Hatch Escapes: 

https://www.hatchescapes.com/

OOO Episode on Escape Rooms:
https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-50-escape-rooms-with-tommy-wallach/

LAST STOP

Ryan: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-accelerates-plan-to-unleash-apex-predator-near-rural-community-over-widespread-local-opposition

 

Kiernan: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lifestyle/arts/willy-wonka-musical-parody-inspired-by-viral-event-1235852849/

 

Italian cuisine expert Fred Plotkin19 Mar 202400:51:00

On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan interviews one of the show’s most interesting guests ever: opera and Italian cuisine expert Fred Plotkin. Decades ago, Fred published a breakout hit for intrepid eaters: his book “Italy for the Gourmet Traveler.” During COVID, he collaborated with frequent “Out of Office” guest Rick Steves on a new update, which the duo published in 2023 as “Italy for Food Lovers.” Fred’s knowledge proved so encyclopedic, this will be Part 1 of 2!

Note: Some SFX are missing from the top of the show, which explains the weird pauses. We’ll talk about it on the next episode. 

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Willy Wonka Immersive Experience

https://www.salon.com/2024/03/02/fyre-festival-20-everything-to-know-about-the-less-than-stellar-willy-wonka-immersive-experience/ 

“Italy for Food Lovers”

https://store.ricksteves.com/shop/p/italy-for-food-lovers

Fred Plotkin biography

https://www.wqxr.org/people/fred-plotkin/ 

“The Myth of Your Phone’s Airplane Mode”

https://qz.com/phone-airplane-mode-myth-1851286214 

“Pod Save the World” CPAC Doubles Down on Creepy Autocrats

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cpac-doubles-down-on-creepy-autocrats/id1200016351?i=1000647359648 

Buenos Aires 10127 Feb 202400:47:08

On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Ryan ventures to Buenos Aires and shares his top neighborhood picks, eats too much steak, and embarks on a quest for elderly giraffes. Also, the boys debut a fresh segment called Nonsense Banter.

Ryan's BA photos on Insgagram:
https://www.instagram.com/p/C32MfWpuTpH/?img_index=1

Other Links:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/02/air-canada-must-honor-refund-policy-invented-by-airlines-chatbot/

James Beard Foundation Awards13 Feb 202400:46:45

In this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Ryan speaks with Dawn Padmore, Vice President of Awards at the James Beard Foundation, about the newly released list of semi-finalists and how the JBF discovers these exceptional restaurants across the United States. Additionally, Ryan and Kiernan share some of their favorites from the list.

The JBF:

https://www.jamesbeard.org/

Semi-Finalists List:

https://www.jamesbeard.org/blog/the-2024-james-beard-awards-semifinalists

Notre Dame Episode:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/notre-dame/id1438098925?i=1000436877749

NYT Travel Editor Amy Virshup Talks 52 Places In 202430 Jan 202400:46:26

On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan talks to Amy Virshup, the Travel Editor of the New York Times, about the paper’s just released “52 Places to Visit in 2024” list. Plus, the boys launch a new segment called “The Judy Alert” to help Ryan’s mother determine whether her son is in danger.

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

“52 Places to Go in 2024”

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/travel/places-to-travel-destinations-2024.html 

Quito, Ecuador episode

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/quito-ecuador/id1438098925?i=1000610538652 

Ecuador Travel Advisory

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/ecuador-travel-advisory.html 

White House Press Release on Ancestral Footprints of the Grand Canyon National Monument 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/08/08/fact-sheet-president-biden-designates-baaj-nwaavjo-itah-kukveni-ancestral-footprints-of-the-grand-canyon-national-monument/ 

 

Stowe, Vermont16 Jan 202400:47:49

On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys revisit their 2023 Travel New Year’s Resolutions, set down some new ambitions, respond to some SCATHING listener reviews, and then relax into full New England Winter Mode with a city guide to Stowe, Vermont.

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Vermont Covered Bridges

https://www.vermontbridges.com/goldbrk.htm#:~:text=The%20Gold%20Brook%20Bridge%20in%20Stowe%2C%20built%20in%201844%2C%20is,Vermont's%20Howe%20truss%20railroad%20spans

Stowe Mountain Resort

https://gostowe.com/listing/stowe-mountain-resort/

Trapp Family Lodge

https://www.trappfamily.com/about-us.htm 

Stowe Recreation Path

https://www.stowerec.org/parks-facilities/rec-paths/stowe-recreation-path/  

Bear Pond Books

https://stowebooks.com/ 

Idletyme Brewing Company

https://idletymebrewing.com/

Alchemist Beer

https://alchemistbeer.com/ 

“25 Stunning Sites in South America” by The Discoverer

https://www.thediscoverer.com/blog/25-stunning-sites-south-america/XvHyVpKgiwAG5ann?utm_source=blog&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2004919419

Japanese Plane Collision

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/world/asia/tokyo-haneda-plane-fire.html 

Alaska Airlines Boeing Loses a Door Plug Midflight 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/07/us/alaska-airlines-boeing-passengers.html 

 

Christmas Spectacular Six24 Dec 202300:44:43
Guayaquil, Ecuador05 Dec 202300:49:54
Shakespeare Travel for the Big Folio 40021 Nov 202300:43:28

This week on the pod, Kiernan takes us to merry old England to visit sites related to William Shakespeare in honor of the 400th anniversary of the publication of the First Folio. Without the Folio, we would likely have lost half—HALF!—of Shakespeare’s plays. Libraries around the world will be hosting special events throughout the year, and there’s never been a better time to head to the theatre!

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Ryan’s OTHER podcast Red Pen

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/red-pen-a-grammar-podcast/id1658608663 

Folio 400

https://folio400.com/where-are-they/ 

Panda Diplomacy

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/08/us/politics/panda-zoo-china.html 

Atlanta Zoo

https://zooatlanta.org/activity-type/wild-encounters/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAu9yqBhBmEiwAHTx5pxOo1X0nXLy7cGyxIpUqgR-UgVVrsz2trHpg2aUUxlotA-4Pp-j6_hoCQtEQAvD_BwE 

NYer article about Panda Mating

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/09/02/bears-do-it 

Folio anniversary write-ups we like

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/03/books/review/shakespeares-first-folio-turns-400.html 

https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2023/november/the-first-folio-at-400 

Misc:

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/theater-floorboards-shakespeare-uncovered-2376341

 

“Secret Boston” with Kiernan Schmitt30 Jul 202400:49:16

This week Ryan welcomes his favorite author Kiernan Schmitt to talk about Kiernan’s new guidebook “Secret Boston: An Unusual Guide.” The book is a part of Jonglez Publishing’s “Secret” series, which specializes in historical oddities and way off-the-beaten-path sites fit for locals and enterprising tourists both!

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Buy “Secret Boston: An Unusual Guide”

https://bookshop.org/p/books/secret-boston-an-unusual-guide-kiernan-schmitt/21037780?ean=9782361957179 

https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Boston-Unusual-Guide-guides/dp/2361957175 

Secret series:

https://jonglezpublishing.com/product-category/secret-guides/ 

Our interview with Thomas Jonglez

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/travel-book-publisher-thomas-jonglez/id1438098925?i=1000454443728 

North End Library Venice Miniature

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/diorama-of-venetian-palace 

The Dutch House

https://www.redfin.com/MA/Brookline/20-Netherlands-Rd-02445/home/11461795 

Arlington Street Church Tiffany Window

https://www.ascboston.org/about/building.html 

Neon Williams

https://neonwilliams.com/ 

Forest Hills Cemetery “Neighbors” by Christopher Frost

https://www.christopherfrost.org/#/neighbors2006/ 

The Dodecagonal House

https://www.bostonpreservation.org/news-item/my-boston-home-dragon-jp 

Jumbo’s Ashes at Tufts

https://now.tufts.edu/2014/09/22/glory-was-jumbo 

BC Labyrinth

https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/memorial-labyrinth.html 

Dorchester Historic Brick Collection

https://www.dorchesterhistoricalsociety.org/exhibits 

Greenway Carousel

https://www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2013/08/31/greenway-carousel-grand-opening/ 

Puppet Free Library

https://puppetco-op.org/libraries.htm 

Climate Change and Turbulence

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/climate-change-is-making-airplane-turbulence-more-common-and-severe-scientists-say-180984440/ 

Revere Sand Sculpting Festival

https://www.internationalsandsculptingfestival.com/ 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gg7pYzzTUk 

Ponyhenge

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/05/02/opinion/ponyhenge-elizabeth-graver/ 

 

Bear Safety07 Nov 202300:53:28
Ryan's Adventure In Bahía Solano, Colombia24 Oct 202300:50:27

Join Ryan as he recounts his recent adventure in Bahía Solano, Colombia. Encounter tall, handsome motorcycle drivers, majestic whales, Colombian Huck Finns, and baby turtles. Don’t miss Ryan's many exhilarating experiences crossing multiple bridges.

Things We Talked About in Today's Episode: 

Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/ooopodcast/

Airbnb:
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/917672623315797476?source_impression_id=p3_1697708123_XGHn8l8m1zAwtWd6

Turtles:
https://www.instagram.com/tortugasdelpacifico/

Coolest Bar In Town:
https://www.utriahostel.com/

The Bitch: 
https://www.amazon.com/Bitch-Pilar-Quintana/dp/164286059X

Rick Steves!10 Oct 202300:58:09

In honor of the “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast” 5 year anniversary, Kiernan landed a big interview: travel luminary Rick Steves. Rick has been THE dream guest for the boys since Day 1 and he’s finally here in studio. Kiernan and Rick talk European sightseeing, the ins-and-outs of travel book writing, and why Portugal is better than Orlando, FL. 

Is it the end of The Quest for Rick Steves or the beginning of The Great Kiernan-Rick Bromance?

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Everything Rick Steves
https://www.ricksteves.com/  

Rick Steves’ Europe Season 12
https://www.ricksteves.com/tv-programmers/season/twelve 

The Last Stop: 

Stuff You Should Know: Night of the Grizzlies
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/night-of-the-grizzlies/id278981407?i=1000630016148 

 Banff Grizzly Deaths
https://www.npr.org/2023/10/02/1203036630/bear-attack-couple-dies-canada-banff

National Park “Field Trip” with WashPo’s Lillian Cunningham26 Sep 202301:03:58

On this week’s episode, Kiernan talks to Washington Post journalist and podcaster Lillian Cunningham about her fantastic 5-episode National Park podcast “Field Trip.” They talk about environmental disasters, how Native American communities relate to the Parks, and the challenges of making audio stories about highly visual landscapes.  Plus, RYAN VISITS BOSTON.

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

“Field Trip”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/podcasts/field-trip/ 

“Presidential”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/podcasts/presidential/ 

Rich Men North of Richmond

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqSA-SY5Hro 

Spoke in Somerville

http://www.spokewinebar.com/ 

Chez Baldwin

https://nmaahc.si.edu/explore/exhibitions/chez-baldwin 

Plum Island

https://www.newburyport.com/plum-island-beach/ 

Bob Lobster

https://boblobster.com/

Watching Movies on Airplanes12 Sep 202300:45:13

On this week’s episode, Kiernan and Ryan discuss their sometimes divergent philosophies of what makes a perfect airplane movie, the best thing to do with your screen if you’re not using it, and why you don’t want to sit in front of Ryan when he’s engaged in a heated round of Tetris. 

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Fail Foliage Map:
https://smokymountains.com/fall-foliage-map/

Last Stop:
https://www.roerich.org/

https://www.factorytoursusa.com/

Rate and Review Us:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-office-a-travel-podcast/id1438098925

Follow us on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/ooopodcast/

Panama29 Aug 202300:43:46

On this week’s episode, Ryan takes us between two oceans to Panama. Pirates, Teddy Roosevelt, and propeller planes: what more could you want in an episode?

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Favorite-Novel-Lawrence-Wright/dp/1416562478

Restaurants: 

  • Fonda Lo Que Hay 

  • Intimo Restaurante 

  • Maito Restaurante 

  • Cantina del Tigre 

https://www.amazon.com/Path-Between-Seas-Creation-1870-1914/dp/0671244094

https://www.museodelcanal.com/en/book-here/

 https://barefootpanama.com/

https://www.audacy.com/podcast/search-engine-c67a8/episodes/wait-should-i-not-be-drinking-airplane-coffee-39823

First Trip to New York15 Aug 202300:59:20

On this week’s episode, the boys make recommendations for their favorite city in the world: New York City! NYC has SO MUCH to do it can be overwhelming, so let Kiernan and Ryan recommend their curated must-do list for a first trip to the city—museums, theater, and famous landmarks abound!

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

American Museum of Natural History

https://www.amnh.org/ 

The Met Museum

https://www.metmuseum.org/

MoMA

https://www.moma.org/ 

The Cloisters

https://www.metmuseum.org/visit/plan-your-visit/met-cloisters 

Statue of Liberty

https://www.statueofliberty.org/statue-of-liberty/ 

Ellis Island

https://www.statueofliberty.org/ellis-island/ 

Tenement Museum

https://www.tenement.org/ 

Grand Central Terminal

https://www.grandcentralterminal.com/ 

New York Public LIbrary (you want to go to the Main Branch)

https://www.nypl.org/ 

The Morgan Library

https://www.themorgan.org/ 

Empire State Building (see it, don’t go up)

https://www.esbnyc.com/ 

9/11 Memorial Museum

https://www.911memorial.org/ 

Time Square

https://www.timessquarenyc.org/ 

Broadway shows

https://www.broadway.com/shows/tickets/ 

TKTS

https://www.tdf.org/discount-ticket-programs/tkts-by-tdf/tkts-live/ 

“Scoring Broadway Tickets” episode

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/scoring-broadway-tickets/id1438098925?i=1000433455504 

Tulcingo de Valle

https://www.tulcingorestaurant.com/ 

Central Park

https://www.centralparknyc.org/ 

The High Line

https://www.thehighline.org/ 

New Rules for Visiting Europe

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/1190453405/europe-travel-visa-etias-how-to-apply 

Atomic Bomb Statue on Upper West Side

https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/24212#:~:text=Fifteen%20feet%20tall%2C%20made%20of,that%20leveled%20Hiroshima%20in%201945

Nashville (Return Trip)08 Aug 202300:54:35

This week, join the boys as they take you back to Nashville, Tennessee, reliving their December 2019 episode to the Music City.

Original Nashville Episode With All Links:
https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-61-nashville/

More Tennessee Content: 

Chattanooga & Lookout Mountain:
https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-88-chattanooga-lookout-mountain/

Knoxville & The Great Smoky Mountains:
https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-85-knoxville-the-great-smoky-mountains/

America’s Favorite Tourist Attractions, Based on Millions of Reviews01 Aug 202300:46:55
The Case for Travel18 Jul 202300:44:37

On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys debate a recent New Yorker article arguing against travel!

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

The Case Against Travel

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-weekend-essay/the-case-against-travel

Icon of the Seas

https://www.insider.com/royal-caribbean-icon-of-the-seas-images-freaks-people-out-2023-7?amp

Wes Anderson sites

https://www.travelandleisureasia.com/global/destinations/wes-anderson-movie-filming-locations-you-can-visit/amp/

 

First Trip to Chicago16 Jul 202400:49:13

Pop! Squish! Six! Uh-Oh! Cicero! Lipschitz! On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys talk about one of their favorite cities in the US: Chicago! Perched on Lake Michigan, the city offers stellar food, world-class art and natural history, and a number of easy-to-find hidden wonders.

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Chicago Architecture Tour

https://www.architecture.org/tours/detail/chicago-architecture-center-river-cruise-aboard-chicago-s-first-lady/ 

Tiffany Dome at Chicago Cultural Center

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/dca/supp_info/chicago_culturalcenter-tiffanydome.html 

Millennium Park

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/dca/supp_info/millennium_park.html 

The Bean

https://millenniumparkfoundation.org/art-architecture/cloud-gate/ 

Buckingham Fountain

https://www.chicagoparkdistrict.com/parks-facilities/clarence-f-buckingham-memorial-fountain 

Crown Fountain

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/dca/supp_info/chicago_s_publicartcrownfountaininmillenniumpark.html 

Wrigley Field

https://www.mlb.com/cubs/ballpark 

Field Museum

https://www.fieldmuseum.org/ 

Art Institute of Chicago

https://www.artic.edu/ 

Thorne Miniatures

https://www.artic.edu/highlights/12/thorne-miniature-rooms 

Robie House

https://flwright.org/tour/robie-house 

Hogsalt

https://www.hogsalt.com/ 

Chicago-Style Hot Dogs

https://www.bonappetit.com/story/best-hot-dogs-chicago 

Chicago Pizza

https://chicago.eater.com/maps/best-chicago-pizza-restaurants 

Roadside America

https://www.roadsideamerica.com/ 

 

“Footnotes from the Most Fascinating Museums” by Bob Eckstein

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/18/travel/museum-guide-bob-eckstein-illustrator.html 

 

Denali National Park04 Jul 202300:52:35

On this week’s episode, Kiernan takes us deep into the wilds of Alaska to visit one of the greats: Denali National Park. He talks us through sled dog training, why “Mount McKinley” happened, and a set of skulls that tell the tale of an epic battle to the death.

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Denali National Park

https://www.nps.gov/dena/index.htm 

“Denali or Mount McKinley”

https://www.nps.gov/dena/learn/historyculture/denali-origins.htm#:~:text=Prospectors%20all%20along%20the%20Yukon,1897%20New%20York%20Sun%20article 

Denali Sled Dogs

https://www.nps.gov/dena/planyourvisit/meet-the-sled-dogs.htm 

“South Park” saves Denver restaurant

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/us/casa-bonita-restaurant.html 

A Frequent Flier Hero

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/23/united-airlines-very-frequent-flyer/ 

Detroit 10120 Jun 202300:47:24

On this week’s episode, Ryan and Kiernan head to Motor City to talk Motown, Coney dogs, and Diego Rivera. Ryan also sits down with Melody Baetens, The Detroit News' restaurant critic, to discuss her favorite dining spots and live music venues in town. Get revved up for your first trip to Detroit! 

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Melody at The Detroit News:

https://www.detroitnews.com/entertainment/dining-bars/

Melody on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/melodybaetens

Train from Bogota to Salt Cathedral:

https://www.turistren.com.co/en/?page_id=7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Cathedral_of_Zipaquir%C3%A1

 

North America’s 50 Best Bars06 Jun 202300:52:00

On this week’s episode, Ryan sits down with Mark Sansom, Content Director for North America’s 50 Best Bars, to talk about this year’s 50 Best Bars in North America list. Plus, Ryan and Kiernan share some of their favorite bars that didn’t make the list. 

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

North America’s 50 Best Bars:
https://www.worlds50bestbars.com/northamerica/

The World’s 50 Best Restaurants Main Website:
https://www.theworlds50best.com/

World’s 50 Best Discovery Search Tool:
https://www.theworlds50best.com/discovery/

The Last Stop:

Ryan: https://www.hudsonriverrail.com/

Kiernan: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/19/magazine/first-class-ethics.html

 

First Trip to London23 May 202300:56:18

On this week’s episode, the boys right a major wrong: in over 150 episodes, they’ve never done an episode on London for first-timers! England’s capital city can be overwhelming—world-class museums on every corner, historically significant architecture left and right, churches and zoos and gardens and parks and theater and libraries! What is a tourist with limited time to do?? This episode tells you.

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Obscure Musuems of London Episode

https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-141-obscure-museums-of-london-part-1-return-trip/

River Thames

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-long-and-winding-history-of-the-thames-139049496/ 

Handy Guide to Neighborhoods of London

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/48-london-neighborhoods-a-quick-reference-guide_b_7557148 

Planning your public transportation

https://tfl.gov.uk/maps_/tfl-go 

Taxis and “The Knowledge” (NYer article was behind a paywall so here is a NYT)

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/10/t-magazine/london-taxi-test-knowledge.html 

Westminster Abbey

https://www.westminster-abbey.org/ 

Saint Paul’s

https://www.stpauls.co.uk/ 

Houses of Parliament

https://www.parliament.uk/visiting/ 

Tower of London

https://www.hrp.org.uk/tower-of-london/ 

Buckingham Palace and Changing of the Guard

https://www.visitlondon.com/things-to-do/event/8725947-changing-the-guard 

Hampton Court Palace

https://www.hrp.org.uk/hampton-court-palace/#gs.ysui4s 

Shakespeare’s Globe

https://www.shakespearesglobe.com/

West End

https://officiallondontheatre.com/london-west-end-guide/ 

British Museum

https://www.britishmuseum.org/ 


Tate Modern

https://www.tate.org.uk/visit/tate-modern

Tate Britain

https://www.tate.org.uk/visit/tate-britain 

 

Victoria and Albert

https://www.vam.ac.uk/

 

V&A David story

https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/the-story-of-michelangelos-david 

 

Natural History Museum

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/ 

 

Churchill War Rooms

https://winstonchurchill.org/visit/churchill-war-rooms/ 

 

British Library

https://www.bl.uk/discovering-our-collections 

 

John Soane Museum

https://www.soane.org/ 

 

Trafalgar Square

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafalgar_Square 

 

Piccadilly Circus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piccadilly_Circus 

 

Hyde Park

https://www.royalparks.org.uk/parks/hyde-park 

 

Kew Gardens

https://www.kew.org/kew-gardens/visit-kew-gardens 

We love Rick Steves’s London guide for first-timers and, for those who are looking to get way off the beaten path, Jonglez Publishing’s “Secret London.”

 

We Design an Airport09 May 202300:43:30

On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the show turns 150! The boys reminisce, compare themselves to Sisyphus, and talk about their deep airport feelings.

Quito, Ecuador25 Apr 202301:00:30

In this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," get ready for some high-altitude exploration as Ryan takes us to Quito! Learn about Simon Bolivar's significant other (who was both a lover and a fighter) and discover what qualifies as a tree worm.

For more information on the places and experiences discussed in the podcast, check out the following links:

Vanishing Postcards podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/vanishing-postcards/id1544610020


Historic Quito (UNESCO World Heritage Site): https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/2/

Plaza de la Independencia (Plaza Granda)

Basílica del Voto Nacional

Basilica and Convent of San Francisco

El Panecillo + Virgen de Quito

Telefériqo - Quito: https://teleferico.com.ec/

Manuela Sáenz Museum: https://museo-manuela-saenz.negocio.site/

Guayasamín Museum: https://guayasamin.org.ec/

Mitad del Mundo

Museo Templo del Sol Pintor Cristobal Ortega Maila

Restaurants:

Rincón de Francia

Somos (featuring Chef Alejandra Espinoza)

-Chontacuro (tree worm) dish: https://travelislife.org/chontacuro-eat-live-worms/

Urko

Last Stop: 

Ryan shares a study that shows the farther you wander, the happier you'll be (https://entrylevelrebel.medium.com/new-study-the-farther-you-wander-the-happier-you-will-be-7fbfafa556f), while Kiernan suggests checking out the WPA murals at United States post offices (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_post_office_murals).

 

 

Glamping with Kevin Ferguson12 Apr 202300:37:15

On this week’s episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan speaks with glamping entrepreneur Kevin Ferguson, cofounder of Starlight Haven, a luxury hospitality company focused on lesser-known natural wonders in the American South.

Things we talk about on this week’s episode:

Starlight Haven

www.visitstarlight.com 

Kevin Ferguson

https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinferguson2/ 

Hot Springs National Park

https://www.nps.gov/hosp/index.htm

Congaree National Park28 Mar 202300:52:42

On this week’s episode, Kiernan takes us to one of the least populated (and most atmospheric!) national parks: Congaree in South Carolina. Bald cypress knees and abandoned gin stills await! Plus, Kiernan says something CRITICAL about RICK STEVES.

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Rick Steves in “Travel & Leisure”

https://www.travelandleisure.com/rick-steves-tips-to-avoid-common-travel-issues-7367914 

Congaree National Park

https://www.nps.gov/cong/index.htm 

Bald Cypress Trees

https://www.nwf.org/Educational-Resources/Wildlife-Guide/Plants-and-Fungi/Bald-Cypress 

Harry Hampton

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_R._E._Hampton 

Friends of Congaree Swamp

https://friendsofcongaree.org/location/bluff-trail-guide/ 

Eisenberg’s LIVES! (As S&P Lunch)

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/11/21/playful-nostalgia-and-honed-classics-at-sp-lunch 

 

Luis Barragán’s Mexico City28 Feb 202301:02:38

In this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan and Ryan explore the colorful world of acclaimed Mexican architect Luis Barragán and his iconic works in Mexico City. Ryan chats with Martin Luque, a CDMX-based architect who actually grew up in Casa Gilardi - the last house designed by Barragán! Also, Kiernan shares his insights on traveling with kids and even shares a harrowing tale of his Dickensian youth.

Things we talked about on today’s episode:

Martin’s Father talks about Casa Gilardi: 
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10154827207262454

Casa Gilardi:
https://casagilardi.mx/

Tetetlan & Casa Pedregal:
http://www.tetetlan.com/

Casa Estudio Luis Barragán:
http://www.casaluisbarragan.org/eng/en_index.html

Chapel and Convent of the Capuchinas Sacramentarias
https://www.barragan-foundation.org/works/list/capuchin-convent-chapel

The Last Stop:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/24/t-magazine/luis-barragan.html

 

NYT 52 Places to Go in 202314 Feb 202300:42:22

On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan and Ryan celebrate the release of the New York Times’s annual “52 Places to Go” list. Plus, Kiernan ruminates about the importance of family vacations and Ryan triumphantly returns to Brooklyn.

Things we talked about on today’s episode:

NYT’s “52 Places to Go in 2023”

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/travel/52-places-travel-2023.html 

Mark Twain House vandalism

https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/mark-twain-house-in-hartford-vandalized-by-rocks-bricks/2948094/ 

Museum of Modern Renaissance

https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/massachusetts/museum-of-modern-renaissance-ma/ 

Louisville, Kentucky02 Jul 202401:02:56

On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys luxuriate in Louisville. From exploring hidden walkways to throwing back some bourbon—plus a quick stop to honor The Colonel—Ryan and Kiernan are officially Kentucky converts.

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

21C Museum Hotel
https://www.21cmuseumhotels.com/louisville/ 

The Brown Hotel
https://www.brownhotel.com/ 

The Hot Brown
https://www.gotolouisville.com/blog/hot-brown/ 

Louisville Historic Tours
https://louisvillehistorictours.com/ 

Conrad-Caldwell House
https://www.conradcaldwell.org/ 

Louisville’s Olmsted Parks
https://louisvilleky.gov/government/louisville-loop/olmsted-parkways 

Cave Hill Cemetery
https://www.cavehillcemetery.com/ 

Belle of Louisville Riverboat
https://www.belleoflouisville.org/ 

Louisville Slugger Museum
https://www.sluggermuseum.com/ 

Frazier History Museum
https://www.fraziermuseum.org/ 

Speed Art Museum
https://www.speedmuseum.org/ 

Proof on Main
https://proofonmain.com/ 

The Silver Dollar
https://www.whiskeybythedrink.com/ 

610 Magnolia
https://610magnolia.com/ 

Garage Bar
https://garageonmarket.com/ 

Butchertown Grocery Bakery
https://www.gotolouisville.com/directory/butchertown-grocery-bakery/ 

Chik’n & Mi
https://www.chiknandmi.com/ 

Muth’s Candies
https://muthscandy.com/ 

Mile Wide Beer Co.
https://milewidebeer.com/ 

Oaxaca City 10124 Jan 202300:42:57

On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Ryan takes us on a journey to Oaxaca City, the home of mezcal and loads of Catholic Churches—a great combo! Plus the boys discuss why Panama hats are, weirdly, Ecuadorian.

Things we talked about on today’s episode:

  • Centro Cultural San Pablo
  • Museo Textil de Oaxaca
  • Templo de Santo Domingo de Guzmán
  • CUATROSIE7E GALERÍA
  • Estampa Galeria 
  • La Casa De Las Artesanias
  • Criollo (Enrique Olvera)
  • Casa Oaxaca el Restaurante
  • Boulenc
  • Mercado 20 de Noviembre
  • Bar Ilegal
  • Mezcalogia
  • El Árbol del Tule (The Tree of Tule) 
  • Mercado Gastronómico de Santa María del Tule (Try a Tlayuda)

The Last Stop:

Ryan: Noma is closing at the end of 2024!
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/09/dining/noma-closing-rene-redzepi.html


Kiernan:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/04/04/the-mezcal-tour-of-oaxaca

Christmas Spectacular Five25 Dec 202200:48:48
New Haven13 Dec 202201:10:57

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan takes us on a tour of his home turf: New Haven, Connecticut! It’s all apizza (a-BEETZ!), fake medieval buildings, dinosaurs, and New England charm. Plus, a BRAND NEW RICK STEVES’S SERIES!

Things we talked about on today’s episode:

Ryan’s new bastard podcast “Red Pen”

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/red-pen-a-grammar-podcast/id1658608663 

Rick Steves’s new show

https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-read-listen/video/tv-show/art 

Wooster Square

https://www.ctvisit.com/listings/wooster-square 

Pepe’s

https://order.pepespizzeria.com/ 

Sally’s

https://www.sallysapizza.com/ 

Modern

http://modernapizza.com/ 

Da Legna x Nolo

https://jet2nolo.com/ 

Zuppardi’s

https://zuppardisapizza.com/ 

Bar

https://www.yelp.com/biz/bar-new-haven 

Beinecke Library

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beinecke_Rare_Book_%26_Manuscript_Library 

Gutenberg Bible page turning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKXDGFOoxvc 

Harkness Tower

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harkness_Tower 

Taft seat in Woolsey Hall

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/11/19/nyregion/a-president-s-custom-seat-still-best-in-the-house.html 

Crypt societies

https://archive.curbed.com/2018/6/21/17484316/yale-secret-society-tomb-history-skull-bones 

Yale University Art Gallery

https://artgallery.yale.edu/ 

Yale Center for British Art

https://britishart.yale.edu/ 

Peabody Museum

https://peabody.yale.edu/ 

“The Age of Reptiles” mural

https://news.yale.edu/2019/12/02/peabodys-iconic-dinosaur-mural-gets-check-ahead-museum-renovation 

Atticus Bookstore

https://atticusnhv.com/ 

Book Trader Cafe

http://www.booktradercafe.net/ 

 

The Coffee Pedaler

https://www.facebook.com/thecoffeepedalernewhaven/ 

 

“Bones and All”

https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/bones-and-all-midwest-setting-explained

 

Art of the Brick

https://artofthebrickexhibit.com/ 

Obscure Museums of London Part 1 (Return Trip)06 Dec 202200:53:11

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan takes us back to London to explore the wild and wacky world of small and odd museums. Forget the British Museum, we’re going to a museum all about WINDMILLS!!

Asunción, Paraguay29 Nov 202200:51:28

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Ryan recaps his recent trip to Asunción, Paraguay. He talks museums, restaurants, a scaffolded pink palace, and why Sopa Paraguaya isn't soup. Also, don't miss Ryan wandering a cemetery bothering grave diggers. 

Things we talked about in today's podcast:

Follow The Out Of Office Instagram: 
https://www.instagram.com/ooopodcast/

Pakuri:
https://www.theworlds50best.com/discovery/Establishments/Paraguay/Asuncion/Pakuri.html

Pizzeria Javori:
https://www.instagram.com/javorai_py/

Lido Bar:
https://lidobar.com.py/

Paulista Grill:
https://www.instagram.com/paulistagrill/

Gaudí’s Barcelona (Return Trip)23 Nov 202200:47:39

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” it ain’t Barcelona without Gaudí, and it ain’t a podcast without Ryan and Kiernan. The boys highlight Gaudí’s top architectural treasures—weird, organic-seeming, and magnificent.

Visit the orginal episode for more details: 
https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-34-gaudis-barcelona/

Richmond, Virginia15 Nov 202201:09:38

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Ryan and Kiernan recap a momentous occasion: their first overnight trip together! (Separate hotels.) They talk museums, graves, historic homes, Presidents, the Civil War (A LOT of Civil War), and restaurant picks. Plus, a standout National Park hidden treasure!

The American Civil War Museum

https://acwm.org/ 

Virginia Museum of Fine Arts

https://vmfa.museum

John Marshall House

https://preservationvirginia.org/historic-sites/john-marshall-house/

Hollywood Cemetery

https://www.hollywoodcemetery.org/

Maggie Walker House

https://www.nps.gov/mawa/index.htm 

Society of Cincinnati

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_the_Cincinnati 

Virginia State Capitol

http://virginiacapitol.gov/index.php/tours/ 

Statue of George Washington

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_George_Washington_(Houdon) 

James Madison’s Montpelier

https://www.montpelier.org/ 

Paul Jennings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Jennings_(slave)  

Eater’s Richmond List

https://dc.eater.com/maps/best-bars-restaurants-bakeries-richmond-dining-guide 

Barcode

https://www.barcoderva.com/ 

Triple Crossing Brewery

https://triplecrossing.com/ 

Emily Dickinson’s House

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/arts/design/emily-dickinson-museum-renovation.html 

Lesser Known National Parks (Return Trip)08 Nov 202200:56:29

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan gets an excuse to listen to himself reminisce about all the best Lesser Known National Parks. The National Park System’s most popular sites– Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Zion— have become victims of their own success, with long lines and visitor frustration. But Lesser Known Parks are just as packed with treasures and far less packed with people.

Haunted Places31 Oct 202200:40:56

On this special Halloween episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan and Kiernan share some of their top picks for (supposedly) haunted places to visit. With these stories of unlucky Confederate children, folks with a death wish, and voodoo practitioners, you might want to leave the lights on for this one. BOO!

Things we talked about in today’s podcast:

OOO Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/ooopodcast/ 

Boston’s Granary Burying Grounds

https://www.thefreedomtrail.org/trail-sites/granary-burying-ground 

Haverstraw Hitchcock House

https://www.newyorkalmanack.com/2014/10/in-haverstraw-the-house-that-inspired-hitchcock/

Charleston’s Magnolia Cemetery

https://www.bulldogtours.com/tours/the-spirits-of-magnolia-cemetery-tour/1

New Orlean’s Saint Louis Cemetery No. 1

https://www.frenchquarter.com/st-louis-cemetery-no-1/ 

New Jersey’s Devil Tree (and slightly warm rock)

https://weirdnj.com/stories/devils-tree/

National Park Ghost Stories

https://parktrust.org/blog/scary-stories-from-national-parks/  

Georgia Guidestones

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/georgia-guidestones-destroyed-in-an-explosive-attack-180980383/

Poe’s graves

https://www.eapoe.org/balt/poegrave.htm 

 

Bogota, Colombia25 Oct 202200:50:56
Mammoth Cave National Park18 Jun 202401:00:15

On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys put on their hard hats, light their lanterns, and head underground! Ryan and Kiernan are fresh back from Mammoth Cave National Park in Kentucky—the largest cave system in the world! They have tales to tell about secret subterranean rivers, folksy rangers, and gypsum flowers that take eons to grow.

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Mammoth Cave National Park

https://www.nps.gov/maca/index.htm 

The Cave Wars

https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/the-kentucky-cave-wars.htm 

Stephen Bishop

https://www.nps.gov/people/stephen-bishop.htm 

George Morrison

https://www.nps.gov/people/george-morrison.htm 

Floyd Collins

https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/tragedy-at-sand-cave.htm 

Frozen Niagra

https://www.nps.gov/media/photo/gallery.htm?id=335A7FB9-AA3A-4D2E-A446-C2F15F29DE5E 

Historical Tour

https://www.nps.gov/media/photo/gallery.htm?id=3CDB5B65-5954-49BB-A2FE-AEA32F56FC03 

Gothic Avenue Tour

https://www.greatamericanhikes.com/post/gothic-avenue-tour-in-mammoth-cave-national-park 

Grand Avenue Tour

https://www.alittletour.com/2017/06/01/grand-avenue-tour-mammoth-cave-kentucky/ 

All Tours

https://www.nps.gov/maca/planyourvisit/cave-tours.htm

Book Tours here

https://recreation.gov/ticket/facility/234640 

Cave City

https://cavecity.com/ 

Wigwam Village

https://historicwigwamvillage.com/ 

 

Foods of the Islamic World with Anissa Helou (Return Trip)18 Oct 202201:11:39

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” we take another listen to one of Kiernan’s favorite interviews—cookbook author and food writer Anissa Helou! Anissa talks about the diversity of foods in the Islamic world and some of her favorite travel anecdotes.

Medellín, Colombia (Return Trip To Episode 68)11 Oct 202200:57:22

In preparation for next week's new episode on Bogota, Colombia, Ryan takes us back to episode 68 of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, '' which explored Medellin. Featuring the best museums, cultural sites, parks, cafes, and restaurants, plus the boys grapple with the ethics of narcotourism.

Things we talked about in today’s podcast:

Museo de Antioquia 

https://www.museodeantioquia.co/

Museo de Arte Moderno

http://elmamm.org/

El Castillo Museo y Jardines

http://www.museoelcastillo.org/

Comuna 13 Graffiti Tour + Escalators 

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/colombia-medellin-neighborhood/index.html

Museum Pablo Escobar 

https://www.pabloescobargaviria.com/

Inflexión Memorial Park 

https://www.medellinabrazasuhistoria.com/inflexion-memorial-park/?lang=en

Cemetario Jardines Montesacro 

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/pablo-escobars-grave

Café Zeppelin

https://www.facebook.com/cafezeppelin/

Naturalia Café 

Naturalia Café - Home

Halong

http://halong.com.co/

El Poblado

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Poblado

Club Oráculo

https://www.facebook.com/ClubOraculo/

New Yorker “The Afterlife of Pablo Escobar”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/05/the-afterlife-of-pablo-escobar

Vida Americana at The Whitney

https://whitney.org/exhibitions/vida-americana

Curio Spice Company

https://www.curiospice.com/

- Listen to past episodes at: https://outofofficepod.com/

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Star Wars at Disney04 Oct 202201:12:44

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Star Wars enthusiast Kiernan puts on his Jedi robes and communes through The Force with Jimmy Mac, host of the Star Wars podcast “Rebel Force Radio.” The two dig into how Disney has endeavored to bring the galaxy far far away to life at Galaxy’s Edge— AKA Star Wars Land—and in the new immersive experience The Galactic Starcruiser. Be forewarned: these two nerd out deep.

Things we talked about in today’s podcast:

Rebel Force Radio

https://www.rebelforceradio.com/ 

Rancho Obi-Wan

https://ranchoobiwan.org/ 

Galloping Ghost

https://www.gallopingghostarcade.com 

“Behind the Attraction” Star Tours

https://dorksideoftheforce.com/2021/07/13/star-tours-explored-disney-behind-the-attraction/amp/

Galaxy’s Edge

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/star-wars-galaxys-edge/ 

Kowakian Monkey-Lizard

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kowakian_monkey-lizard 

Starcruiser

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/star-wars-galactic-starcruiser/overview

Nal Hutta

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Nal_Hutta 

The Twins

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/The_Twins_(Hutts) 

Financial Times on Airline Food

https://www.ft.com/content/018f132b-864d-4c53-8ebf-a5cad8ee4bdb

Bhutan (Return Trip to Episode #23)27 Sep 202200:54:21

On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan recounts his travels in the secluded mountain kingdom of Bhutan, which just last week reopened its borders to tourists after 2.5 years of COVID restrictions. Extraordinary scenery, Gross National Happiness, and penis deities abound!

Things We Talked About:

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutan
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gho
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kira_(Bhutan)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_National_Happiness
  • https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/29/opinion/bhutan-is-no-shangri-la.html
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paro_Taktsang
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drukpa_Kunley
  • https://themalamarket.com/
  • http://time.com/5534495/hot-abraham-lincoln-statue/
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