At this moment of inflection in technology, co-hosts Elad Gil and Sarah Guo talk to the world's leading AI engineers, researchers and founders about the biggest questions: How far away is AGI? What markets are at risk for disruption? How will commerce, culture, and society change? What’s happening in state-of-the-art in research? “No Priors” is your guide to the AI revolution. Email feedback to show@no-priors.com.
Sarah Guo is a startup investor and the founder of Conviction, an investment firm purpose-built to serve intelligent software, or "Software 3.0" companies. She spent nearly a decade incubating and investing at venture firm Greylock Partners.
Elad Gil is a serial entrepreneur and a startup investor. He was co-founder of Color Health, Mixer Labs (which was acquired by Twitter). He has invested in over 40 companies now worth $1B or more each, and is also author of the High Growth Handbook.
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The Road to Autonomous Intelligence with Andrej Karpathy
Saison 1 · Épisode 77
jeudi 5 septembre 2024 • Durée 44:16
Andrej Karpathy joins Sarah and Elad in this week of No Priors. Andrej, who was a founding team member of OpenAI and former Senior Director of AI at Tesla, needs no introduction. In this episode, Andrej discusses the evolution of self-driving cars, comparing Tesla and Waymo’s approaches, and the technical challenges ahead. They also cover Tesla’s Optimus humanoid robot, the bottlenecks of AI development today, and how AI capabilities could be further integrated with human cognition. Andrej shares more about his new company Eureka Labs and his insights into AI-driven education, peer networks, and what young people should study to prepare for the reality ahead.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Introduction
(0:33) Evolution of self-driving cars
(2:23) The Tesla vs. Waymo approach to self-driving
(6:32) Training Optimus with automotive models
(10:26) Reasoning behind the humanoid form factor
(13:22) Existing challenges in robotics
(16:12) Bottlenecks of AI progress
(20:27) Parallels between human cognition and AI models
(22:12) Merging human cognition with AI capabilities
(27:10) Building high performance small models
(30:33) Andrej’s current work in AI-enabled education
(36:17) How AI-driven education reshapes knowledge networks and status
(41:26) Eureka Labs
(42:25) What young people study to prepare for the future
Building toward a bright post-AGI future with Eric Steinberger from Magic.dev
Saison 1 · Épisode 79
vendredi 30 août 2024 • Durée 37:49
Today on No Priors, Sarah Guo and Elad Gil are joined by Eric Steinberger, the co-founder and CEO of Magic.dev. His team is developing a software engineer co-pilot that will act more like a colleague than a tool. They discussed what makes Magic stand out from the crowd of AI co-pilots, the evaluation bar for a truly great AI assistant, and their predictions on what a post-AGI world could look like if the transition is managed with care.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Introduction
(0:45) Eric’s journey to founding Magic.dev
(4:01) Long context windows for more accurate outcomes
(10:53) Building a path toward AGI
(15:18) Defining what is enough compute for AGI
(17:34) Achieving Magic’s final UX
(20:03) What makes a good AI assistant
(22:09) Hiring at Magic
(27:10) Impact of AGI
(32:44) Eric’s north star for Magic
(36:09) How Magic will interact in other tools
State Space Models and Real-time Intelligence with Karan Goel and Albert Gu from Cartesia
Saison 1 · Épisode 70
jeudi 27 juin 2024 • Durée 34:08
This week on No Priors, Sarah Guo and Elad Gil sit down with Karan Goel and Albert Gu from Cartesia. Karan and Albert first met as Stanford AI Lab PhDs, where their lab invented Space Models or SSMs, a fundamental new primitive for training large-scale foundation models. In 2023, they Founded Cartesia to build real-time intelligence for every device. One year later, Cartesia released Sonic which generates high quality and lifelike speech with a model latency of 135ms—the fastest for a model of this class.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Introduction
(0:28) Use Cases for Cartesia and Sonic
(1:32) Karan Goel & Albert Gu’s professional backgrounds
(5:06) State Space Models (SSMs) versus Transformer Based Architectures
(11:51) Domain Applications for Hybrid Approaches
(13:10) Text to Speech and Voice
(17:29) Data, Size of Models and Efficiency
(20:34) Recent Launch of Text to Speech Product
(25:01) Multimodality & Building Blocks
(25:54) What’s Next at Cartesia?
(28:28) Latency in Text to Speech
(29:30) Choosing Research Problems Based on Aesthetic
(31:23) Product Demo
(32:48) Cartesia Team & Hiring
Can AI replace the camera? with Joshua Xu from HeyGen
Saison 1 · Épisode 72
jeudi 20 juin 2024 • Durée 27:26
AI video generation models still have a long way to go when it comes to making compelling and complex videos but the HeyGen team are well on their way to streamlining the video creation process by using a combination of language, video, and voice models to create videos featuring personalized avatars, b-roll, and dialogue. This week on No Priors, Joshua Xu the co-founder and CEO of HeyGen, joins Sarah and Elad to discuss how the HeyGen team broke down the elements of a video and built or found models to use for each one, the commercial applications for these AI videos, and how they’re safeguarding against deep fakes.
Links from episode:
HeyGen
McDonald’s commercial
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Introduction
(3:08) Applications of AI content creation
(5:49) Best use cases for Hey Gen
(7:34) Building for quality in AI video generation
(11:17) The models powering HeyGen
(14:49) Research approach
(16:39) Safeguarding against deep fakes
(18:31) How AI video generation will change video creation
(24:02) Challenges in building the model
(26:29) HeyGen team and company
How the ARC Prize is democratizing the race to AGI with Mike Knoop from Zapier
Saison 1 · Épisode 68
mardi 11 juin 2024 • Durée 26:03
The first step in achieving AGI is nailing down a concise definition and Mike Knoop, the co-founder and Head of AI at Zapier, believes François Chollet got it right when he defined general intelligence as a system that can efficiently acquire new skills. This week on No Priors, Miked joins Elad to discuss ARC Prize which is a multi-million dollar non-profit public challenge that is looking for someone to beat the Abstraction and Reasoning Corpus (ARC) evaluation.
In this episode, they also get into why Mike thinks LLMs will not get us to AGI, how Zapier is incorporating AI into their products and the power of agents, and why it’s dangerous to regulate AGI before discovering its full potential.
Show Links:
About the Abstraction and Reasoning Corpus
Zapier Central
ARC Prize
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Introduction
(1:10) Redefining AGI
(2:16) Introducing ARC Prize
(3:08) Definition of AGI
(5:14) LLMs and AGI
(8:20) Promising techniques to developing AGI
(11:0) Sentience and intelligence
(13:51) Prize model vs investing
(16:28) Zapier AI innovations
(19:08) Economic value of agents
(21:48) Open source to achieve AGI
(24:20) Regulating AI and AGI
The evolution and promise of RAG architecture with Tengyu Ma from Voyage AI
Saison 1 · Épisode 63
jeudi 6 juin 2024 • Durée 36:20
After Tengyu Ma spent years at Stanford researching AI optimization, embedding models, and transformers, he took a break from academia to start Voyage AI which allows enterprise customers to have the most accurate retrieval possible through the most useful foundational data. Tengyu joins Sarah on this week’s episode of No priors to discuss why RAG systems are winning as the dominant architecture in enterprise and the evolution of foundational data that has allowed RAG to flourish. And while fine-tuning is still in the conversation, Tengyu argues that RAG will continue to evolve as the cheapest, quickest, and most accurate system for data retrieval.
They also discuss methods for growing context windows and managing latency budgets, how Tengyu’s research has informed his work at Voyage, and the role academia should play as AI grows as an industry.
Show Links:
Voyage AI
Stanford Assistant Professor of Computer Science
Tengyu Ma Key Research Papers:
Sophia: A Scalable Stochastic Second-order Optimizer for Language Model Pre-training
Non-convex optimization for machine learning: design, analysis, and understanding
Provable Guarantees for Self-Supervised Deep Learning with Spectral Contrastive Loss
Larger language models do in-context learning differently, 2023
Why Do Pretrained Language Models Help in Downstream Tasks? An Analysis of Head and Prompt Tuning
On the Optimization Landscape of Tensor Decompositions
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Introduction
(1:59) Key points of Tengyu’s research
(4:28) Academia compared to industry
(6:46) Voyage AI overview
(9:44) Enterprise RAG use cases
(15:23) LLM long-term memory and token limitations
(18:03) Agent chaining and data management
(22:01) Improving enterprise RAG
(25:44) Latency budgets
(27:48) Advice for building RAG systems
(31:06) Learnings as an AI founder
(32:55) The role of academia in AI
How YC fosters AI Innovation with Garry Tan
Saison 1 · Épisode 66
jeudi 23 mai 2024 • Durée 39:59
Garry Tan is a notorious founder-turned-investor who is now running one of the most prestigious accelerators in the world, Y Combinator. As the president and CEO of YC, Garry has been credited with reinvigorating the program. On this week’s episode of No Priors, Sarah, Elad, and Garry discuss the shifting demographics of YC founders and how AI is encouraging younger founders to launch companies, predicting which early stage startups will have longevity, and making YC a beacon for innovation in AI companies. They also discussed the importance of building companies in person and if San Francisco is, in fact, back.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Introduction
(0:53) Transitioning from founder to investing
(5:10) Early social media startups
(7:50) Trend predicting at YC
(10:03) Selecting YC founders
(12:06) AI trends emerging in YC batch
(18:34) Motivating culture at YC
(20:39) Choosing the startups with longevity
(24:01) Shifting YC found demographics
(29:24) Building in San Francisco
(31:01) Making YC a beacon for creators
(33:17) Garry Tan is bringing San Francisco back
The Data Foundry for AI with Alexandr Wang from Scale
Saison 1 · Épisode 65
mercredi 22 mai 2024 • Durée 39:00
Alexandr Wang was 19 when he realized that gathering data will be crucial as AI becomes more prevalent, so he dropped out of MIT and started Scale AI. This week on No Priors, Alexandr joins Sarah and Elad to discuss how Scale is providing infrastructure and building a robust data foundry that is crucial to the future of AI. While the company started working with autonomous vehicles, they’ve expanded by partnering with research labs and even the U.S. government.
In this episode, they get into the importance of data quality in building trust in AI systems and a possible future where we can build better self-improvement loops, AI in the enterprise, and where human and AI intelligence will work together to produce better outcomes.
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(0:00) Introduction
(3:01) Data infrastructure for autonomous vehicles
(5:51) Data abundance and organization
(12:06) Data quality and collection
(15:34) The role of human expertise
(20:18) Building trust in AI systems
(23:28) Evaluating AI models
(29:59) AI and government contracts
(32:21) Multi-modality and scaling challenges
Music consumers are becoming the creators with Suno CEO Mikey Shulman
Saison 1 · Épisode 64
jeudi 16 mai 2024 • Durée 30:26
Mikey Shulman, the CEO and co-founder of Suno, can see a future where the Venn diagram of music creators and consumers becomes one big circle. The AI music generation tool trying to democratize music has been making waves in the AI community ever since they came out of stealth mode last year. Suno users can make a song complete with lyrics, just by entering a text prompt, for example, “koto boom bap lofi intricate beats.” You can hear it in action as Mikey, Sarah, and Elad create a song live in this episode.
In this episode, Elad, Sarah, And Mikey talk about how the Suno team took their experience making at transcription tool and applied it to music generation, how the Suno team evaluates aesthetics and taste because there is no standardized test you can give an AI model for music, and why Mikey doesn’t think AI-generated music will affect people’s consumption of human made music.
Listen to the full songs played and created in this episode:
Whispers of Sakura
Stone
Statistical Paradise
Statistical Paradise 2
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Mikey’s background
(3:48) Bark and music generation
(5:33) Architecture for music generation AI
(6:57) Assessing music quality
(8:20) Mikey’s music background as an asset
(10:02) Challenges in generative music AI
(11:30) Business model
(14:38) Surprising use cases of Suno
(18:43) Creating a song on Suno live
(21:44) Ratio of creators to consumers
(25:00) The digitization of music
(27:20) Mikey’s favorite song on Suno
(29:35) Suno is hiring
Context windows, computer constraints, and energy consumption with Sarah and Elad
Saison 1 · Épisode 63
jeudi 9 mai 2024 • Durée 29:10
This week on No Priors hosts, Sarah and Elad are catching up on the latest AI news. They discuss the recent developments in AI like Meta’s new AI assistant and the latest in music generation, and if you’re interested in generative AI music, stay tuned for next week’s interview! Sarah and Elad also get into device-resident models, AI hardware, and ask just how smart smaller models can really get. These hardware constraints were compared to the hurdles AI platforms are continuing to face including computing constraints, energy consumption, context windows, and how to best integrate these products in apps that users are familiar with.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Intro
(1:25) Music AI generation
(4:02) Apple’s LLM
(11:39) The role of AI-specific hardware
(15:25) AI platform updates
(18:01) Forward thinking in investing in AI
(20:33) Unlimited context
(23:03) Energy constraints
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