What if accountability led to healing instead of more harm? In this conversation, restorative justice practitioner Tatiana Chaterji shares how her work in prisons, schools, and communities is helping people move beyond punishment toward real repair. She reflects on her own experience as a survivor, the power of truthful dialogue, and why accountability requires support rather than shame. This episode opens a clear-eyed look at what it takes to build safety and dignity in a society ready to move past punitive responses to harm.

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This episode explores how ancestral plant wisdom can reshape the future of healthcare and the economy. Clinical herbalist and educator Laura Ash shares practical insights on ethical herbalism, biopiracy, whole-plant medicine, and why reconnecting with traditional knowledge matters for human and planetary wellbeing. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of the cultural, scientific, and economic dimensions of herbal medicine and how to apply these lessons in their own work and lives.

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Transitioning to shared ownership is one of the most powerful ways a business can align its values with its structure. In this episode of Next Economy Now, Jason Wiener, founder of the law and consulting firm Jason Wiener P.C. and co-founder of Colorado Cooperative Developers, joins Ryan Honeyman to unpack the legal, cultural, and financial considerations behind alternative ownership models, from worker cooperatives to purpose trusts.

For full show notes, visit: https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/jason-wiener/

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Joining us to share her insights is Jacqueline Novogratz, founder of the global nonprofit, Acumen, a forerunner in the fight against poverty. Having grown up as a military kid, Jacqueline has always had a broader sense of what the word ‘home’ meant to her. We start today’s conversation by unpacking how this has influenced her impactful work of solving the problems of global poverty in an interdependent world. Jacqueline also shares her story of starting Acumen, and speaks to the mission of inclusion and freedom behind it.

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In today's conversation, we unpack the third strategy of our MBA Series and discuss how to leverage the power of governance. We discuss how meetings are a part of the decision-making process, the concept of authority, the different systems of governance, and why engaging more stakeholders is better. Learn about practicing good governance hygiene, tactics for forming strategic partnerships, the various facets of accountability, and more. To hear actionable steps and essential insights to ensure a culture of good governance for your company, tune in now.

For full show notes, visit: https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/mba18

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Stu Landesberg is an entrepreneur who describes himself as an “optimist who really likes his job” and one who believes that it’s unequivocally urgent that we use business to solve environmental problems. 

His digital-first brand and e-commerce platform, Grove Collaborative, is driven by the belief that sustainability is the only future, and offers more than 150 high-performing consumer products fueled by a mission to transform the industry into a force for the good of both people and the planet.

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Fundraising is possibly the most pressing issue facing new business owners looking to get a startup off the ground. In this part of our MBA series, we take a look at some of the alternatives to the common, yet flawed, models associated with venture capital and angel investment.

For our show notes, visit https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/mba17

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Eric Toensmeier is a thought leader in the role of perennial crops and agroforestry systems in climate change mitigation. Having penned and published three revolutionary books and acted as a senior fellow in both Project Drawdown and the Global Evergreening Alliance, his voice is pivotal to the conversation about climate change, biodiversity, and nutrition.

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The equitable achievement of human and environmental rights is imperative for social justice and sustainability. The economy is the foundation that dictates how our societies function and also structures communities and cultures from the ground up. Transforming the economy is central to achieving social and environmental justice, but what needs to change? How can this be achieved? 

To help us answer these questions is Teju Adisa-Farrar, a connector, environmental consultant, and geographer who is on a mission to change the fashion industry in a way that achieves social and environmental justice. Having lived in many different countries, she uses a transitional lens informed holistically by art, history, urbanism, and activism to create impact. She focuses her work on people, organizations, and companies helping grow the economy and communities by leveraging socially aware practices and sustainable technologies.

For our show notes, visit https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/mba16

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Lindsay Baker is the CEO of the International Living Future Institute and as the Chief Strategist, she heads their mission for transformation towards a better world. We are so lucky to sit down with Lindsay today for an in-depth conversation about living buildings, her passion for structures and shelter, and what the built environment could look like in the future.

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In this episode of the MBA Series—where we share the content from our course in an open-source, bite-sized format—Shawn Berry and Ryan Honeyman discuss business strategy, specifically how to position your offering in your chosen market.

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Rethinking Economics USA is a network of students and academics allying to rethink and change economics education in the United States. Joining us in conversation today are Abigail Acheson and Nouhaila Oudija, two leading members of the movement making waves across the globe.

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Welcome back to the MBA series, where we review the arc of the learning journey presented in the Next Economy MBA online course. This episode tackles the topic of non-violent, collaborative communication and why it’s so important when it comes to making a genuine impact in the world.

For full show notes, visit https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/mba13

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As social and environmental crises intensify, the need for skilled, grounded activism has never been greater. In this episode of Next Economy Now, Nick Mucha, Senior Director of Environmental Issues and Strategy at Patagonia, shares what it takes to support movements and build capacity for lasting impact. Nick also introduces Patagonia’s new book, Tools to Save Our Home Planet, a practical guide for changemakers at every stage of their journey.

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According to the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication, an overwhelming 70% of Americans have expressed that they want to combat climate change and that they would actively do something about it if they were given the opportunity. The only problem is that no one has been asking. That is until Raise Green Capital was established in 2021.

Raise Green Capital is a climate investment platform and the first inclusive funding portal in the US with a specific focus on climate solution projects with a social mission. We are joined today by its co-founder and CEO, Franz Hochstrasser, to talk about how this company was founded, why they saw a need for it, and how they are empowering a new league of investors to help combat climate change.

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MRC aims to provide livelihood opportunities for refugees through skills-based education and social entrepreneurship. Their work is divided between two separate, yet connected enterprises: New Leaf Agriculture, and Open Arms Studio. Their work is built on the foundation of providing fair-wage jobs that offer opportunities to advance careers, while utilizing the array of skills and expertise of their workers.

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There is so much power in finding a way to earn a good income for your family while meeting your creative interests and serving your community as a whole. Today’s guest, Joan Arwa Ogwang is the perfect example of this. In this episode of Next Economy Now, Joan tells us all about her incredible Solarfire project.

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In this episode of the MBA series, we look at culture, values, and the importance of teams. LIFT Economy Worker-Owners Phoenix Soleil and Kevin Bayuk share their definitions of culture and the significance it holds for them, and their vision of the next economy. We discover the role of values in distilling culture and the process of arriving at shared values within an organization, as well as what’s required to build a high-performing, accountable, and diverse team.

For our show notes, visit https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/mba12

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The racial wealth gap is alarming in most industries and the food and farming industry is no exception. Today, we are joined by social entrepreneur and impact investor, Olivia Watkins, to discuss how her non-profit impact investing organization, Black Farmer Fund, is working to close the gap and create a financial institution that people can trust.

In this episode, we learn about the Black Farmer Fund’s six core values, and how they’re investing in Black farmers and food businesses to create sustainable and equitable food systems. Olivia shares her vision for the growth of the organization, its impactful ways to shift power continuously, and more! Tune in to find out how BFF is assisting the Black farming community, and what you can do to support them in doing so!

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How do you imagine the future? How do you intend to get there? What is the purpose of your actions? Asking these kinds of questions will help you better understand whether your vision and the vision of the people within your organization are aligned.

During this episode, we explore some of the most common points of divergence amongst members of an organization, and how having uncomfortable conversations early on can help prevent problems from occurring further down the road. We are all unique individuals, so some level of divergence is unavoidable, but before you embark on a mission of transformation, it’s important to ensure that those divergences are not going to cost you your cause.

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To challenge, to question, to provoke. To nurture, to care, to accept. Through her community and media organization, Denizen, Jenny Stefanotti holds these forces in tension and in doing so, is co-creating the idea of a Next society that has curiosity, generosity, diversity, integrity, humility, and accountability at its core.

During this episode, Jenny shares the founding story of Denizen (which now has a total reach on Clubhouse of over 85000 people,) how she makes the Denizen content widely accessible while still being valuable to seasoned experts, examples that highlight the cooperative nature of the organization, and what her role as a steward of the community entails. 

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Today on the show we welcome Mosa Tsay, a Taiwanese-American cellist, first-generation artist, and worker-owner at Groupmuse. Tuning in you’ll hear Mosa share how the Groupmuse Foundation was founded in response to the COVID-19 pandemic and how they helped musicians through job creation programs, fundraising, and by facilitating a direct link between audience members and musicians during lockdown restrictions. We talk with Mosa about how Groupmuse went from being a private company to being a worker-run co-op and the impact this has had on the organization as a whole. She also unpacks the role of the Musical Council, and how it has allowed musicians to express their views and have an impact on the decisions that directly affect them.

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How do the personal choices we make for our lives and daily habits impact the larger community and the future of a better world? This is a question that we don’t think is asked often enough. One of the founding principles of LIFT Economy and the Next Economy Podcast is the centering of collective needs instead of individual desires and today we are sharing some powerful strategies for how these can actually be brought into alignment.

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Whether aware of it or not, and no matter how liberal one’s belief system may be, all white people are culturally conditioned into racism. Undoing this cultural programming requires conscious work, and our guests today have dedicated their lives to undoing their own conditioning and facilitating the transformation of others.

In this episode, we discuss the far-reaching effects of cultural conditioning, white people's resistance to recognizing their racism, and the process of “UNtraining” racist programming. Ro and Swan share their personal transformation journeys, and what led them to this line of work. We learn about various UNtraining tools and benefits, the concept of multidimensional consciousness, and more. Tune in for inspiration to connect across differences, and protect our world and each other.

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Founders often invest decades of heart and soul into their endeavors, yet many lack a clear succession plan. In this conversation with John Abrams, author of From Founder to Future, we explore how founders can strategically pave the way for a more equitable future through the worker co-op model and how work can influence every area of life.

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Consumers need more from the companies and brands they support. Aspects such as governance, social impact, and environment are what consumers demand, requiring business and business leaders to operate and think differently. What is needed is a way for consumers to ensure they support businesses and products that help drive change in the world.

Today’s guest is helping lead the charge to change the economy to benefit all people, communities, and the planet. Jorge Fontanez is the Chief Executive Officer for B Lab, a leader in systems change, creating standards, policies, and tools for businesses and also certifying companies regarding their social and environmental responsibility.

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As we continue our MBA Series, we move on from the principles discussed in the previous episodes into the structures and frameworks that can take these principles into action and effect. While the foundational principles have a clear necessity, they are not enough to achieve the goals of the next economy and as we aim to change the systems that define our societies and world, we have to move beyond mere ideas.

For our show notes, visit https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/mba7

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Amrita Wassan from the Center for Economic Democracy (CED) joins us on the show today to talk about their philosophy and experiences working towards shifting power and finding real solutions to the problems we face. Amrita is the Director of Programs at CED and is an educator, organizer, and solidarity economy practitioner.

For our show notes, visit https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/amrita-wassan

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If you, like many others, think that cooperatives are just another way to do business, get ready to reframe that idea. Our guest today is Rachel Isreeli, and as she explains during this episode, cooperatives are a form of community organizing that have the ability to transform existing power structures.

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Today on the show we welcome Pegi Eyers, author of the award-winning book Ancient Spirit Rising: Reclaiming Your Roots & Restoring Earth Community, which examines the loss of our vital ethnocultural connection to tribe and place as well as why there is an evident trend of borrowing identities from other cultures. Peggy is based in Ontario, Canada and self-identifies as a Celtic animist. She is an advocate for the recovery of authentic ancestral wisdom and traditions for all people.

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In episode 4, we shared the first five principles of Next Economy enterprises. Today, we cover principles six through ten and highlight some important examples of organizations and enterprises that are leading the way when it comes to true transformative systems change.

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The work to set up a better future is often difficult and unglamorous, and installing the economic and legal structures that are necessary to support the needs of all, requires a particular kind of determination and belief. This is known all too well by Derek Razo, our guest in this episode, who is the Co-Founder of Common Trust and the Purpose Foundation.

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We should be finding solutions--as a global community--to the environmental and social issues that we face . Our guest today, Karla Brollier, is focused on prioritizing those who are most affected. Karla is the Founder and Director of the Climate Justice Initiative (CJI). CJI is the only indigenous women-led and focused organization that addresses the multifaceted issue of climate change and climate justice in Indigenous peoples, groups, and communities. Karla is also the Founder and Senior Consultant at Saghani Consulting.

For our show notes, visit https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/mba4

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Real change is about more than just talk and requires a committed practice from organizations and individuals. Hella Social Impact is a consultancy that is dedicated to facilitating the process of helping brands and organizations to show up authentically and impactfully for racial justice. On the show today we are so lucky to be joined by Hella's CEO and Founder, Lynn Johnson, as we have an insightful and inspiring conversation about her path and experiences working towards a better future. 

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Join us for the next installment of our Next Economy MBA Series, in which we share the first five principles of a framework for a better future. These principles are evolving guideposts and design considerations that can help business owners move towards an economy that works for the benefit of all life.

For our show notes, visit https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/mba3

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How can we transform the global economy to serve all life? In this conversation, Next Economy Now co-hosts Ryan Honeyman and Kevin Bayuk reflect on the podcast’s 10-year journey and dive into the regenerative economic strategies that guide their work at LIFT Economy. They discuss what inspired the creation of the show, how it has evolved, and the values-based conversations it has helped surface around topics like worker ownership, sustainable business practices, and corporate social responsibility.

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Today’s guest is Jeff Clements, who serves as President of American Promise, a fast-growing, cross-partisan network of Americans working to win the next amendment to the US Constitution so that people, not money, govern America. Jeff has practiced law for three decades in public service and private practice and is the author of Corporations Are Not People: Reclaiming Democracy From Big Money and Global Corporations, a must-read for anyone who is sick and tired of the reign of corporate super-citizens in American politics.

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We may not be to blame for climate change, systemic racism, and damaging levels of debt, but we are responsible for doing whatever we can to turn the tide on these issues that currently plague our world.

In this episode of the MBA series, we delve into the problem with interest-bearing debt, why access (not availability) is the reason that 800 million people are chronically hungry, and how historical systems perpetuate inequalities across the world today, as well as why the Genuine Progress Indicator is a better measure of progress than Gross Domestic Product.

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Today on the Next Economy Now Podcast, we welcome esteemed public intellectual and author Professor Robin D.G. Kelley. Robin is the Distinguished Professor and Gary B. Nash Endowed Chair in U.S. History at UCLA and has researched and published extensively on the history of social movements in the US, the African Diaspora, and Africa. He has also spent time focusing on Black intellectuals, music and visual culture, Surrealism, and Marxism.

For our show notes, visit https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/robin-dg-kelley

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To kick off our new MBA Series, LIFT Partners Erin Axelrod and Kevin Bayuk sit down to give a run down of what our listeners can expect in the following podcasts, how it relates to the Next Economy MBA program, and to introduce some important terms and concepts that will be explored in future episodes.

For our show notes, visit https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/mba1

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This is the final episode in a rebroadcast of our four part interview series with Vincent Stanley from Patagonia.

Vincent Stanley, co-author with Yvon Chouinard of "The Responsible Company", has been with Patagonia on and off since its beginning in 1973, for many of those years in key executive roles as head of sales or marketing. More informally, he is Patagonia’s long-time chief storyteller. Vincent helped develop the Footprint Chronicles, the company’s interactive website that outlines the social and environmental impact of its products; the Common Threads Partnership; and Patagonia Books. He currently serves as the company’s Director, Patagonia Philosophy, and is a visiting fellow at the Yale School of Management. He is also a poet whose work has appeared in Best American Poetry. He and his wife, the writer Nora Gallagher, live in Santa Barbara.

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• How Patagonia thinks about social, environmental, and financial goal setting and key performance indicators
• The thought process behind how Patagonia sets prices for its products
• Internal and external reporting practices, including the B Impact Assessment and the “Footprint Chronicles'“
• How Patagonia baked its values and benefit purposes into its company bylaws

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This is the third episode in a rebroadcast of our four part interview series with Vincent Stanley from Patagonia.

Vincent Stanley, co-author with Yvon Chouinard of "The Responsible Company", has been with Patagonia on and off since its beginning in 1973, for many of those years in key executive roles as head of sales or marketing. More informally, he is Patagonia’s long-time chief storyteller. Vincent helped develop the Footprint Chronicles, the company’s interactive website that outlines the social and environmental impact of its products; the Common Threads Partnership; and Patagonia Books. He currently serves as the company’s Director, Patagonia Philosophy, and is a visiting fellow at the Yale School of Management. He is also a poet whose work has appeared in Best American Poetry. He and his wife, the writer Nora Gallagher, live in Santa Barbara.

Interview Highlights:

• Patagonia’s approach to marketing and how it’s evolved over time
• Exploration of the thinking behind Patagonia’s feature-length films
• How Patagonia intentionally cultivates their brand community
• Standing up for what you stand for might mean standing against or alienating potential customers and strategic partners
• Doing what’s right and authentic is good business

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This is the second episode in a rebroadcast of our four part interview series with Vincent Stanley from Patagonia.

Vincent Stanley, co-author with Yvon Chouinard of "The Responsible Company", has been with Patagonia on and off since its beginning in 1973, for many of those years in key executive roles as head of sales or marketing. More informally, he is Patagonia’s long-time chief storyteller. Vincent helped develop the Footprint Chronicles, the company’s interactive website that outlines the social and environmental impact of its products; the Common Threads Partnership; and Patagonia Books. He currently serves as the company’s Director, Patagonia Philosophy, and is a visiting fellow at the Yale School of Management. He is also a poet whose work has appeared in Best American Poetry. He and his wife, the writer Nora Gallagher, live in Santa Barbara.

Interview Highlights:

• Maintaining consistent culture across geographies through values alignment and shared purpose & sense of agency in serving customers
• Creating the conditions to allow people to show up as their full self and pursue the passions outside of work that enhance their value when present for Patagonia
• Enacting purposeful business activism to influence the market, supply web, and policy in ways that are core to the mission and operations
• Patagonia’s efforts and stance with regard to racial and gender equity, diversity, and inclusion

For more, visit: https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/patagonia-2

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This is the first episode in a rebroadcast of our four part interview series with Vincent Stanley from Patagonia.

Vincent Stanley, co-author with Yvon Chouinard of "The Responsible Company", has been with Patagonia on and off since its beginning in 1973, for many of those years in key executive roles as head of sales or marketing. More informally, he is Patagonia’s long-time chief storyteller. Vincent helped develop the Footprint Chronicles, the company’s interactive website that outlines the social and environmental impact of its products; the Common Threads Partnership; and Patagonia Books. He currently serves as the company’s Director, Patagonia Philosophy, and is a visiting fellow at the Yale School of Management. He is also a poet whose work has appeared in Best American Poetry. He and his wife, the writer Nora Gallagher, live in Santa Barbara.

Interview Highlights:

• Four critical moments in Patagonia’s history: rock climbing with petons, the Ventura River, organic cotton, and “Don’t Buy This Jacket.”
• How Patagonia developed its new mission statement
• The Stockholm Resilience framework and how Patagonia thinks about planetary boundaries 
• The company’s approach to growth and why they should (or should not) grow
• The eight business philosophies that guide the company’s decision-making and operations

For more, visit: https://www.lifteconomy.com/blog/patagonia-1

Early bird registration is now open for the spring 2026 cohort of The Next Economy MBA, a nine-month facilitated learning journey for people building a more just and regenerative economy. Save 20 percent if you sign up before February 2. Learn more at lifteconomy.com/mba.

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David Holmgren is best known as the co-author of Permaculture One with Bill Mollison in 1978. Since then he has developed three properties, consulted and supervised in urban and rural projects and presented lectures, workshops and courses at a wide variety of events and venues in Australia and around the world. His writings over those three decades span a diversity of subjects and issues but always illuminating another aspect of permaculture thinking.

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Kris Lin-Bronner is Strategic Adviser and CSR Manager for Dr. Bronner’s Magic Soaps, the top-selling brand of natural soaps in North America. She is responsible for overseeing and managing many diverse projects under the umbrella of sustainability and social responsibility.

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What does it take to build organizations that reflect our deepest values while driving meaningful change? In this episode of Next Economy Now, we speak with Simon Mont, founder of Harmonize Consulting, about what it really takes to build resilient, values-aligned organizations (and why engaging with conflict is often a necessary part of that process). Through his work with Harmonize, Simon helps teams bridge the gap between values, vision, and impact, supporting efforts from land transitions to reproductive justice and wealth redistribution.

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A former Associate Partner with McKinsey & Company, Frédéric Laloux holds an MBA from INSEAD, and a degree in coaching from Newfield Network in Boulder, Colorado. He has traveled widely and speaks five languages fluently. Frédéric Laloux works as an adviser, coach, and facilitator for corporate leaders who feel called to explore fundamentally new ways of organizing. His research in the field of emerging organizational models, published in his book Reinventing Organizations, has been described as “groundbreaking” and “a leap in management thinking” by some of the most respected scholars in the field of human development and management.

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john a. powell is Director of the Haas Institute for a Fair and Inclusive Society and Professor of Law, African American, and Ethnic Studies at the University of California, Berkeley. He was previously the Executive Director at the Kirwan Institute for the Study of Race and Ethnicity at the Ohio State University and the Institute for Race and Poverty at the University of Minnesota. Prior to that john was the National Legal Director of the American Civil Liberties Union. He is a co-founder of the Poverty & Race Research Action Council and serves on the boards of several national and international organizations.

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Amelia Baxter believes that the 21st century built environment is filled with opportunities for trees. Baxter co-founded WholeTrees in 2007 to develop and sell products and technologies that would scale the use of waste-trees in commercial construction, increasing forest revenues, and offering green construction markets a new material for the 21st century. Amelia has led project teams in over $2M in USDA research grants working toward the commercialization of the tree's natural engineering. By raising equity investment for her company, attracting national executive talent, and pinpointing nascent urban markets for trees as structure, Baxter has participated in the growth of a truly conscious and regenerative company.

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