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How to Appear More Trustworthy through Nonverbal Communication, Throwback with Dr. Abbie Maroño, Ep #44628 Mar 202400:39:09

According to Dr. Abbie Maroño, someone judges whether or not they can trust you within 33 milliseconds of meeting you. Once they’ve made their observation, they’ll spend every interaction looking for cues to confirm what they felt (correct or not). So how do you convey trustworthiness? Through nonverbal communication. Dr. Abbie Maroño shares her #1 starting place for appearing more trustworthy through nonverbal communication in this fascinating throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja. 

 

Take Command of Your Mindset with Joe Hart, Ep #44525 Mar 202400:24:43

Dale Carnegie is a global training organization with 200 operations in 86 countries. Its instructors teach the Dale Carnegie course following the model he developed over 100 years ago. 

Joe Hart took the course as a young lawyer, and it changed the trajectory of his life. He left law and went into business, and the course helped him see a different vision for his future.

Joe and Michael Cromm wrote “Take Command” because they were profoundly impacted by the Dale Carnegie principles and program. Joe shares how you can implement some of those principles immediately in this episode of Negotiations Ninja. 

Outline of This Episode
  • [1:39] Learn more about Joe Hart
  • [4:27] Self-confidence is a mindset shift
  • [9:12] The importance of building good habits
  • [14:32] Taking command of your relationships
  • [17:20] Why you need to stop criticizing others
  • [20:11] Being an intentional leader
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Communicating through Disagreements, Throwback with Debra Roberts, Ep #43622 Feb 202400:27:33

If a conversation with an employee has become a disagreement and you can’t seem to work through it, what do you do? Communicating through disagreements is tricky. Where do you start? According to Debra Roberts, you need to get to the root of the issue by listening. Only then can you determine next steps. Learn her framework in this throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja.

How to Masterfully Manage Differing Beliefs, Throwback with Richard Shell, Ep #34630 Mar 202300:36:29

You’ve gotten to a place where you point-blank asked someone what their values are. You have the answer—but it wasn’t the one you were looking for. It’s clear that you have differing beliefs. Now you’re at a crossroads: What do you do?

You can’t persuade someone to change their beliefs. Negotiating over differing beliefs is a far different process than negotiating over interests. You can’t just say “Let’s split the difference” or you’ll insult them. You can provide arguments, evidence, justifications, rationales, stories, etc. but will it make an impact? 

Author and Professor G. Richard Shell dives into this complicated topic in this throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja. Don’t miss it!

Negotiating with Narcissists per Rebecca Zung, Ep #34527 Mar 202300:26:48

How do you know when you’re dealing with a narcissist? How is negotiating with a narcissist different from negotiating with a rational person? What do you need to do to not only prepare for your negotiation but win it? Rebecca Zung—one of the best lawyers in America—shares what negotiating with narcissists is like in this episode of Negotiations Ninja. 

Outline of This Episode
  • [2:15] Learn more about attorney Rebecca Zung
  • [3:55] The definition of a narcissist/narcissistic behaviors 
  • [9:20] What got Rebecca interested in narcissism?
  • [16:22] What it’s like negotiating with a narcissist 
  • [20:13] How to create leverage with a narcissist
  • [23:56] Why you have to focus on yourself
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Why You Must “Dare to Care” with David Perry, Ep #34423 Mar 202300:27:46

David Perry is a sales and business development expert and the author of the book “The Game of Sales.” David wanted to share everything he learned from working with Adobe, Amazon, Google, and IBM and arm readers to overcome the “inner game” they face when they negotiate. 

A lot of someone’s success comes down to the concept “Dare to care.” Caring is a quality that top salespeople have. Many books only focus on tactics and strategy—very few focus on caring. David shares his thoughts on “Daring to care” in this throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja.

Negotiating with Dutch People per Michael Van Keulen, Ep #34320 Mar 202300:28:37

How do you negotiate with people from different cultures? How do you negotiate with people from the Netherlands? To kick off a series about negotiating with cultures from around the world, I’m chatting with Michael Van Keulen (MVK), the Chief Procurement Officer at Coupa Software. We’re focusing on negotiating with Dutch people. Listen to this episode of Negotiations Ninja to learn the steps you can take to negotiate the right way with the Dutch. 

Outline of This Episode
  • [1:45] Learn more about Michael Van Keulen
  • [3:21] The Dutch mindset in negotiations
  • [6:59] Why are Dutch people so direct? 
  • [10:42] How to negotiate with the Dutch
  • [13:26] Do the Dutch make decisions quickly? 
  • [18:34] How to generate rapport with the Dutch
  • [22:27] The Dutch likely speak better English than you
  • [26:51] Dutch people are open and welcoming
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How to Happily Exit Your Business, Throwback with John Warrilow, Ep #34216 Mar 202300:32:46

How do you exit your business successfully? How do you build a business that gets you the multiple that you deserve? John Warrilow is a sought-after business expert, known for his proven methodology, “The Value Builder System™,” which he created to help entrepreneurs build businesses worth buying. In this throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja, John shares some strategies to help you build and exit your business the way you want!

Adjust Your Mindset to Succeed in Negotiation with Melissa Fortunato, Ep #34113 Mar 202300:19:55

How do you adjust your mindset before a negotiation? Why is it important to step outside your comfort zone? Why is a connection in a negotiation everything? Melissa Fortunato retired from the FBI after 23 years. She spent her career as a crisis hostage negotiator and did undercover work. Now, she offers negotiation and conflict resolution training. We talk about learning to adjust your mindset when you get uncomfortable in this episode of Negotiations Ninja. 

Outline of This Episode
  • [1:48] Learn more about Melissa Fortunato
  • [2:47] How to adjust your mindset for negotiation
  • [6:32] How Melissa prepared for undercover work
  • [10:17] Melissa’s experience working undercover
  • [11:42] How to step out of your comfort zone
  • [15:42] Focus on the power of connection
  • [17:24] Learn to manage your emotions
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Negotiate Better Salaries: A Throwback with Victoria Pynchon, Ep #34009 Mar 202300:26:39

Victoria Pynchon is the founder and chief negotiator at “She Negotiates,” a consulting company that helps women negotiate better salaries. Sadly, Victoria sees a lot of women (and men) make mistakes because they forge ahead too quickly, lured by the promise of stock options. 

During the pandemic, startups had ample funding. They started recruiting from big-name brands with the promise of stock options. But the salaries they offered were often dismal. If you were in that scenario, how should you have negotiated your salary? 

Victoria shares common mistakes CEOs, CFOs, etc. make when negotiating their salaries and what they should be doing to negotiate better salaries in this throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja!

Using Negotiation Skills to Navigate Adversity with Lousin Mehrabi, Ep #33906 Mar 202300:25:44

Everyone has faced adversity at some point in their life, especially in recent years with the Covid pandemic. But we all handle adversity differently. Lousin Mehrabi found herself faced with unimaginable adversity: Her six-year-old son was diagnosed with Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy (DMD). 

DMD is an incurable genetic disorder characterized by progressive muscle degeneration and is life-limiting. Lousin was faced with a choice: How was she going to face this news? In this episode of Negotiations Ninja, Lousin talks about how you use your negotiation skills to face adversity. 

Outline of This Episode
  • [1:53] Learn more about Lousin Mehrabi
  • [2:52] How to negotiate with yourself
  • [5:07] Get clear on your “why” to remove limiting thoughts 
  • [6:00] You can unconsciously derail a negotiation 
  • [7:29] Diagnose the problem before you try to solve it
  • [12:14] You have to understand the language of your counterpart
  • [16:15] Using negotiation skills to face adversity 
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Master Sales with Marty Park, Throwback Ep #33802 Mar 202300:30:10

How do you take your business to the next level? How do you master the art of sales? What mistakes should you avoid making? Most entrepreneurs are geniuses and masters of their craft—but struggle with sales. Marty Park has founded 13 successful businesses in seven different industries. Now, with over 16,000 hours of business coaching experience, he’s one of the best people to turn to when you need to boost your sales game. Marty will teach you how to transform from expert to salesman in this throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja. Check it out! 

 

Navigating Conflict at Scale with Gary Noesner, Ep #33727 Feb 202300:33:14

Gary Noesner ended his 30-year tenure with the FBI as the Chief Hostage Negotiator. He managed 350 FBI negotiators around the country and 10 supervisory negotiators. He responded operationally, provided instruction to agencies, and researched crisis and conflict resolution. 

Gary dealt with hijackings, right-wing militia standoffs, prison riots, the Waco siege, and much more. He worked on a lot of high-profile cases. Gary dealt with numerous large-scale conflicts throughout his career. So in this episode of Negotiations Ninja, we delve into how to navigate conflict at scale. 

Outline of This Episode
  • [2:27] Learn more about Gary and his background in the FBI
  • [6:02] How to deal with individual conflict and conflict at scale
  • [11:39] How Gary would handle a prison riot
  • [15:13] Why finding a reasonable leader is key
  • [24:25] Patience must be deployed in many negotiations
  • [26:28] Why Gary believes almost all conflict is resolvable
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How Mario Martinez Negotiated a $46 Million Deal, Ep #43519 Feb 202400:33:18

Mario Martinez—the CEO of Vengreso and the host of the Modern Selling podcast—negotiated a 46-million-dollar deal when he worked for Sprint. How did he do it? Mario shares how he put everything on the line to make this deal a reality in this episode of Negotiations Ninja. 

Outline of This Episode
  • [1:58] Learn more about Mario Martinez
  • [3:32] Laying the foundation for the deal
  • [12:10] Negotiating the $46 million deal
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Learn to Become Confident Negotiators, Throwback with Sara Laschever, Ep #33623 Feb 202300:26:02

Sara Laschever co-wrote “Ask For It: How Women Can Use Negotiation to Get What They Really Want” with Linda Babcock. Their goal was straightforward: To help women negotiate for themselves. Most women excel at negotiating for others (their clients, their kids, their coworkers, etc.) but struggle to ask for what they deserve. In this episode of Negotiations Ninja, Sara explains why this is a systemic issue and walks through what women can do to become confident negotiators.

Cultural Context in Negotiation with Joana Matos, Ep #33520 Feb 202300:32:29

How does culture impact negotiations? Why does culture matter? Why should you care? Joana Matos—a negotiation trainer, consultant, and guest lecturer at Reykjavík University—was born in Portugal and has lived in Iceland for over a decade. In this episode of Negotiations Ninja, she shares some of the cultural differences she’s learned and why understanding someone’s cultural context is important. 

Outline of This Episode
  • [2:05] Learn more about Joana Matos
  • [2:50] The over-reliance on globalization is crippling
  • [6:27] How Icelandic people negotiate
  • [11:38] How to prepare for a negotiation
  • [18:13] Understanding Icelandic body language
  • [19:53] Why you shouldn’t steal rocks in Iceland 
  • [23:20] A culture’s history drives everything
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Sales Training for Both Sides of the Table, Throwback with Joe Paranteau, Ep #33416 Feb 202300:37:07

Joe Paranteau is the author of “Billion Dollar Sales Secrets: Superstar Selling Tips for all Seasons,” which he wrote to be a comprehensive sales training guide. He was constantly seeing sales people blow it in the sales cycle and knew there had to be a better way. In this throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja, Joe shares the importance of genuine curiosity, physical positioning, and selling through the close—for the customer. Don’t miss this guide for both sides of the table.

Persuasion in Negotiation with Andy Luttrell, Ep #33313 Feb 202300:33:25

Are persuasion tactics effective in negotiation? How do you develop persuasiveness that isn’t overtly obvious? Persuasive rhetoric can be compelling—or it can completely backfire. So how do you effectively persuade someone to consider your side of an argument? Andy Luttrell—a Psychologist in the field of opinion science—joins me in this episode of Negotiations Ninja to dive into persuasion in negotiation. 

Outline of This Episode
  • [1:53] Learn more about Andy Luttrell
  • [2:29] What does persuasion really mean? 
  • [4:18] How do you use persuasion to drive decisions?
  • [6:43] Increase your persuasiveness via credibility and trustworthiness
  • [10:52] Why what you say and how you say it matters
  • [13:55] Is the use of emotion a powerful tactic in persuasion?
  • [21:19] Do people make decisions based on pain, pleasure, or both?
  • [24:35] Why cultivating fear is a common persuasion tactic
  • [28:31] Is tapping into emotions appropriate in a business setting?
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Overcome Ego with Mindfulness, Throwback with Gaetan Pellerin, Ep #33209 Feb 202300:23:32

Does your ego get in the way of successful negotiation outcomes? Do you find yourself becoming emotional when someone takes a shot at your character? Gaetan Pellerin wrote the book, “Mindful NEGOtiation: Becoming More Aware in the Moment, Conquering Your Ego and Getting Everyone What They Really Want,” to help you conquer your emotions when it really matters. The best way to do that? Practicing mindfulness. Learn more in this throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja!

Building Trustworthiness with Nonverbal Communication with Dr. Abbie Maroño, Ep #33106 Feb 202300:40:18

How does nonverbal communication make or break a negotiation? How do you appear more trustworthy? What skills can you utilize to improve your nonverbal communication? In this episode of Negotiations Ninja, Abbie Moreno—who has a Ph.D. in Human Behavior—talks about the science behind nonverbal communication and how it drives trustworthiness.

Outline of This Episode
  • [2:22] Learn all about Dr. Abbie Maroño, Ph.D.
  • [3:26] Why can nonverbal communication make or break a negotiation?
  • [5:16] Have we become worse at recognizing nonverbal cues? 
  • [7:53] The most outrageous claim that we’ve been taught to believe
  • [9:40] Do personality traits correlate with nonverbal behavior? 
  • [14:55] How to appear more trustworthy to shortcut the process
  • [21:22] The importance of emotional expressiveness
  • [26:25] Does feigning disappointment work as a negotiation tactic?
  • [29:13] Why trustworthiness signals need to become second-nature
  • [32:30] How to get someone to want to reveal information
  • [36:04] How to know if someone is skeptical of you
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How to Infuse Creativity in Negotiations with Dr. Josh Weiss, Ep #33002 Feb 202300:34:29

How do you embrace creativity in negotiations? How do you approach problem-solving with a different mindset? Dr. Josh Weiss wrote “The Book of Real World Negotiations” to help demonstrate a more effective approach to negotiation. Through sharing real-world examples, he not only drives his points home but opens your mind to a more creative approach to negotiation. Don’t miss this throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja as he lays out how to understand underlying interests, address cultural differences, and change your mindset.

Identifying and Navigating Your Emotional Triggers with Dr. Klaus Lassert, Ep #32930 Jan 202300:34:21

What are the emotional triggers that you struggle with in a negotiation? How will they influence your negotiations? How do you keep your emotional triggers from derailing your performance? For over 15 years, Dr. Klaus Lassert has leveraged psychology to help professionals overcome what’s holding them back to successfully navigate tough negotiations. In this episode of Negotiations Ninja, he’ll help you think through identifying and navigating your emotional triggers. Check it out! 

Outline of This Episode
Mastering the Psychology of Persuasion, Throwback with Brian Ahearn, Ep #32826 Jan 202300:28:03

Have you heard of Cialdini’s principles of influence from his book, “Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion?” If you’re in the world of sales and negotiation, you’re likely familiar with some of these principles. But the psychology of persuasion isn’t easy to master. In this special throwback edition of Negotiations Ninja, Brian Ahearn shares how negotiators can leverage the psychology of persuasion and transform the way they sell. Check it out!

Navigating Crucial Conversations with Joseph Grenny, Ep #32723 Jan 202300:27:41

According to the author of “Crucial Conversations,” Joseph Grenny, crucial conversations are a discussion between two or more people where the stakes are high. Sometimes our opinions vary, and our emotions run strong. How do we deal with conversations like that? Learn how to navigate crucial conversations successfully—while maintaining your relationships—in this episode of Negotiations Ninja!

Outline of This Episode
  • [1:49] Learn more about Joseph Grenny
  • [3:38] How to have crucial conversations 
  • [6:24] What is your “style under stress?”
  • [13:03] Crucial conversations in the workplace
  • [16:01] Why we handle personal stress differently
  • [18:02] Joseph’s nonprofit: The Other Side Academy 
  • [20:12] You can tell the truth in a loving way
  • [23:18] How do you maintain the changes you make
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Is Empathy the Key to Successful Crisis Negotiation? Throwback with Dr. Andy Young, Ep #43415 Feb 202400:23:57

Dr. Andy Young has over 20 years of experience in crisis negotiation. While every scenario he encounters dictates a different approach, there’s one underlying theme: empathy. Developing true empathy for the other party—though exceedingly difficult—can sometimes mean the difference between success and failure. Dr. Young shares more in this throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja. 

 

Deb Calvert’s DISCOVER Framework (Throwback), Ep #32619 Jan 202300:22:42

In episode #223 of the Negotiations Ninja podcast, we dove into Deb Calvert’s “DISCOVER” framework. She expounded upon the SPIN methodology and developed her framework to cover the right questions to ask throughout the sales process: 

  • Data: Get some facts
  • Issue: Determine the issue between the two parties
  • Solution: Get people to think outside the box
  • Consequence: Ask pain-point and goal-oriented questions
  • Outcome: Pain-point and goal-oriented questions
  • Value: Determine what is important to the other person
  • Example: Share examples to get them thinking and processing
  • Rationale: Ask questions to understand the buyer’s decision-making process.

Learn more about Deb’s framework and how it can help you in sales and negotiations in this throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja!

Understanding Intercultural Negotiation with Eliane Karsaklian, Ep #32516 Jan 202300:32:30

As a child, Eliane Karsaklian learned to live in different cultures. Her parents didn’t explain cultural differences or what to expect each time they moved—she was simply thrown into it. After building 20 years of experience in the corporate world, she moved into academics and is currently a professor at the University of Illinois in Chicago.

Eliane wrote an amazing book called “The Negotiation Process Before, During, and After You Close the Deal” based on her life experiences living in and negotiating with different cultures. In this episode of Negotiations Ninja, we talk about what it takes to succeed with intercultural negotiation. 

Outline of This Episode
  • [2:39] Learn more about Eliane Karsaklian
  • [3:52] What is a sustainable negotiation?
  • [5:09] How to think strategically about the future 
  • [6:39] Create short-term milestones that feed the vision
  • [9:41] What happens after you close the deal? 
  • [11:54] How to develop a long-term relationship
  • [13:34] How foundational beliefs of a culture tie in
  • [21:51] Operate through the lens of the other culture
  • [29:44] Hire someone to coach you on intercultural business
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Why Planning Your Exit Should Be Step #1, Throwback with Erik Kostelnik, Ep #32412 Jan 202300:22:39

Picture this: You’ve got a great idea for a business that you’re excited about. Your business plan has been perfected and your focus is on securing money to get it off the ground. But have you started planning your exit? In this throwback edition of Negotiations Ninja, Erik Kostelnik—the founder and CEO of Postal.io—shares why planning your exit should be part of planning your business. Don’t miss it!

Ed Brodow’s Challenge: Be Willing to Walk Away, Ep #32309 Jan 202300:26:08

Are you willing to walk away from a negotiation? Would you push your chair back from the table and walk out the door? In Ed Brodow’s experience, most people “say” they’re willing to walk away, but when it comes down to it, they’re glued to their seats. They’re too scared to walk away. So in this episode of Negotiations Ninja, Ed shares how to overcome your inner negotiation and walk out that door. Don’t miss it!

Outline of This Episode
  • [2:21] Always be willing to walk away from a negotiation
  • [8:45] How to win the negotiation with yourself
  • [13:43] How Ed answers, “Why should I hire you?”
  • [18:37] The importance of listening to and addressing needs
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Nailing Down Your Prospect’s Desired Outcome, Throwback with Keenan, Ep #32205 Jan 202300:22:21

What is your prospect’s desired outcome? Where are they right now? According to Keenan—the best-selling author of Gap Selling—once you calculate the gap that needs to be crossed, you can help guide your prospect to their desired outcome. Sounds easier said than done, right? So in this episode of Negotiations Ninja, we are revisiting this special episode about bridging the gap with none other than Keenan.

Setting the Foundation for the Deal with Carson Heady, Ep #32102 Jan 202300:27:24

Carson Heady is the best-selling author of “Salesman on Fire” and is recognized as the #1 Social Seller globally at Microsoft. He’s found success in every level of sales. On this episode of Negotiations Ninja, one of the most recognizable names in sales today shares what setting the foundation for the deal looks like. It starts with getting the right people “on the boat with you” and caring about the “why” that drives them. What else? Find out in episode #321 of Negotiations Ninja!

Outline of This Episode
  • [2:13] Learn more about Carson Heady
  • [3:37] Setting the foundation for the deal
  • [6:37] Get people on the boat with you
  • [11:22] Understanding the customer’s “why” 
  • [15:27] Does Carson’s notoriety impact him?
  • [19:05] Learn more about “Salesman on Fire”
  • [22:26] Overcoming the perception of others 
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Emotional Commitments in Negotiation with Svitlana Kalitsun, Ep #32012 Dec 202200:22:35

Svitlana Kalitsun is a Ukrainian negotiation expert and lawyer who teaches people how to create trusting relationships to get better deals and more satisfying results. In this episode, we talk about how to handle politically divisive conflicts. In part, it comes by tying emotions to logical commitments. Listen to this episode for an interesting conversation about flexibility, adaptability, and emotional commitments in negotiation. 

Note: We’re recording this episode on 10/21/22. As the Russo-Ukrainian War is a fluid situation, things may have drastically changed by the time this episode airs. 

Outline of This Episode
  • [1:13] Learn more about Svitlana Kalitsun
  • [2:07] Svitlana’s thoughts on the Russian-Ukraine War
  • [5:18] Have negotiations already begun?
  • [6:59] What flexibility looks like in negotiations
  • [14:19] Logical versus emotional commitments 
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Organizational Communication with Debra Roberts, Ep #31905 Dec 202200:28:31

What do you do if you feel like an employee isn’t listening to you? What do you do if they disagree with you? Conversation expert Debra Roberts believes that the impact of listening and creating trust through disagreements is key. Taking responsibility for your role as a leader is also imperative. So what should those conversations look like? Learn more in this episode of Negotiations Ninja. 

Outline of This Episode
  • [2:03] Learn all about Debra Roberts
  • [2:57] Communicating through disagreements
  • [6:43] Take responsibility for your role as a leader
  • [8:09] Shared belonging as an organization
  • [10:57] How to communicate when nothing’s changed 
  • [12:13] Important conversations leaders need to have
  • [15:59] Simple things that can be done to create trust
  • [19:25] Navigate change by building relationships first
  • [23:27] Learn about The Communication Protocol
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How Lawyers can Become Better Negotiators, Throwback with Dr. Claudia Winkler, Ep #31828 Nov 202200:27:32

Dr. Claudia Winkler has a Master of Law from Harvard Law and a Doctorate of Law (in European Union Law) from Johannes Kepler Universität Linz. She leverages her degrees and experience to help lawyers become better negotiators. She strives to help them hone their skills, manage their emotions, and negotiate effectively. She shares what that looks like in this throwback edition of the Negotiations Ninja podcast. 

Navigating Crisis Negotiations with Empathy with Dr. Andy Young, Ep #31721 Nov 202200:24:30

How does crisis negotiation actually work? Dr. Andy Young has both trained and engaged in crisis negotiation for over 20 years. A common thread among these scenarios is the necessity of employing empathy for the counterparty regardless of what they’ve done. He explains why empathy in the face of crises is so impactful in this episode of Negotiations Ninja!

Outline of This Episode
  • [2:02] Learn about Dr. Andy Young
  • [3:05] The three types of crises Dr. Young sees
  • [4:20] Comparing and contrasting business and crisis negotiations
  • [8:10] Dr. Young’s approach to crisis situations 
  • [11:51] Dr. Young’s role in hostage negotiations
  • [13:41] The role of power dynamics in hostage negotiations
  • [16:58] Mental exercises to reestablish perspective 
  • [17:58] What to do when it’s clear there isn’t a “win”
  • [20:09] The #1 thing the business world can learn
  • [22:56] How to get your hands on Dr. Young’s book
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Are You an Unconsciously Incompetent Negotiator? Keld Jensen Weighs In, Ep #43312 Feb 202400:23:53

Why are most negotiators unconsciously incompetent? Keld lives and breathes negotiation. He’s been negotiating since 1998. Before that, he was the CEO of a tech company. He thought he was a great negotiator but realized he was unconsciously incompetent. It was a terrible realization. What you choose to do when you’re hit with the realization dictates whether or not you’ll become a competent negotiator. Learn more in this intriguing episode of Negotiations Ninja. 

Outline of This Episode
  • [2:05] Learn more about Keld Jensen
  • [3:33] Why most negotiators are unconsciously incompetent 
  • [8:56] How do you tell if you’re losing a negotiation?
  • [13:32] Negotiating how to negotiate
  • [19:03] The use of artificial intelligence in negotiation 
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How to Rethink Your Approach to Negotiations (Throwback with Keld Jensen), Ep #31614 Nov 202200:26:07

Are you approaching negotiations from a rigid viewpoint? Are you applying a zero-sum mindset where there can only be one winner? In this throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja, Keld Jensen shares why it’s time to rethink your approach to negotiations—starting by rebuilding negotiation training. His outside-the-box approach will help you approach negotiation with a different lens, providing more value than you thought possible.  

How to Avoid Errors in the “Scope of Work” Clause per Jeanette Nyden, Ep #31507 Nov 202200:31:52

“Scope of work” clauses may not be complex, but they are often misunderstood in a contract. It’s where I see the most mistakes and opportunities for future conflict. That’s why Jeanette Nyden is back! In this episode of Negotiations Ninja we talk about how to negotiate scopes of work correctly, the common screw-ups that we see, AND what to do about them. Don’t miss it! 

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. This episode is for informational purposes only and does not constitute legal advice. Seek proper legal counsel if needed. 

Outline of This Episode
  • [2:15] Learn more about Jeanette Nyden
  • [4:00] Make sure your business objective is clear
  • [6:01] Collaboration is key with scope of work
  • [10:15] Overcoming the fears procurement has
  • [12:52] What, where, when, why, and who
  • [17:33] Building “TBDs” into the scope of work
  • [20:14] Creating a provision for unknown unknowns 
  • [23:38] When error creeps into the scope of work
  • [26:47] Take your time to address the right KPIs and SLAs
Make sure your business objective is clear

The first problem that Jeanette sees is that the scope of work in a contract isn’t tied to the business objective. You need to be able to read the scope of work and figure out what the objective is. When Jeanette first started working on contracts, she’d always ask what business objective they were trying to solve. It should be abundantly clear. 

In Jeanette’s book, “The Contract Professionals Playbook,” she provides a tool that helps professionals detail what the business objective is. You want suppliers to read the scope of work and easily say “yes” or “no.” You also want to make sure that companies who aren’t qualified self-select out. If they don’t, it’s a recipe for disaster. 

Create really good acceptance criteria

Instead of beating up your supplier to achieve year-over-year cost savings, why not include really good acceptance criteria? 

Lawyers put in template language that the customer has the right to accept work. It’s up to the drafters of the scope of work to determine what the acceptance criteria are, who will accept it, and what “non-conforming” or “rejecting” means. 

If you, as the customer, have properly developed the scope of work and the acceptance criteria are clear, you can hold the supplier accountable when something goes wrong. It becomes the supplier's cost to fix the good(s) or conform to service. 

Many people don’t understand conditional acceptance, so there aren’t clear criteria for when you accept something is done to move on. You must take your time how to write acceptance criteria versus focusing on cost savings.

Take your time to address the right KPIs and SLAs

One of Lucille Ball’s classic skits is when she’s working at a chocolate factory. The assembly line is moving too fast, so she starts eating the chocolates. If you write the wrong KPIs or wrong statements of service level agreements, the machines might be working fast. But if the people can’t keep up, you have a problem. 

Think about call centers. If you call with a technical issue, your call may get answered quickly— but then you wait 45 minutes for a technician. The person answering the original call is just sorting. They’re measured on their ability to pick up the phone—not solve the problem. 

You have to look for disincentives, which are often in the scope of work. That’s where companies have the power to make suppliers efficient. Map out the touch points. Do you want someone to answer the phone in the first minute? Sure, that’s awesome. But you don’t want the caller sitting on the phone for another 45 minutes. How do you address that? Those are the things that lead to return customers and where you build value.

Why is collaboration key when it comes to scope of work clauses? How do you build unknown unknowns into a contract? To enjoy the full scope of this conversation, listen to this episode of Negotiations Ninja!

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Why Storytelling is a Powerful Negotiation Tool According to Josh Weiss, Ep #31431 Oct 202200:28:30

Why is storytelling a powerful negotiation tool? Stories are powerful because they’re how humans communicate. Stories are memorable and drive home concepts that can be otherwise difficult to understand. Stories can make real-world applications seem tangible and make a buyer interested in a solution. So in this throwback edition of Negotiations Ninja, we revisit why storytelling is a powerful negotiation tool that must be in your arsenal. Don’t miss it!

How Startup TNT is Positively Impacting Both Investors and Founders (Zack Storms), Ep #31324 Oct 202200:23:08

Zack Storms runs a non-profit called Startup TNT, a community that works with local angel groups, early-stage VC funds, and seed funds to educate potential investors. They teach entrepreneurs how to raise money and how to be better entrepreneurs overall. In this episode of Negotiations Ninja, we have a great conversation about Startup TNT, what they do, and how they’re bridging the gap between investors and founders. 

Outline of This Episode
  • [1:58] Learn more about Zack Storms and Startup TNT
  • [5:34] Make sure you research your business
  • [7:38] The early stages of negotiations?
  • [11:12] Access is the #1 factor in successful investing
  • [13:09] Why you want to be firm but pleasant
  • [14:32] How to win friends & influence people
  • [18:57] What’s up next for Startup TNT
  • [20:11] The struggle to access seed funding
The Roots of Startup TNT

Three years ago, Zack launched “Thursday Night Tradition,” now known as Startup TNT. It was a happy hour to have fun, make friends, and bring like-minded people together to focus on building businesses. 

Zack had heard of the concept of an “Angel Summit,” where you get investors together, and they commit money upfront to invest in a local company. He knew it was needed in Edmonton. Now, he runs 12 investment summits. He’s helped raise $6 million for 40 companies across the Prairies with 220 investors in participation. 

Raising money isn’t the only goal

Zack isn’t just helping companies raise money—he’s helping them get exposure, too. New investors are learning from seasoned investors, increasing the sophistication level of the local investor pool. They also run public events to build awareness around the startups and build momentum for deals. It showcases and celebrates the community. 

Startup TNT also helps coach companies through anything before Series A funding, which is usually when big investors start coming into play with millions of dollars in investments. They work with companies raising between $250,000 to $3 million, with valuations ranging from $2.5 million to 12 million Canadian dollars. 

The struggle to access seed funding

People who raise money from friends and family are rare, and seed funding is challenging to access. That’s why Startup TNT is trying to make the process easier for founders to access early-stage investors. Zack has created a community where investors and founders can start conversations and gain access they otherwise wouldn’t have. Listen to this episode of Negotiations Ninja to learn more about building relationships and negotiating with investors.

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The Return of the Negotiation Myth-Busters (Throwback), Ep #31217 Oct 202200:30:26

Dan Oblinger and Allan Tsang are the masters of busting negotiation myths. In this special throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja, they do just that. The negotiation myth-busters cover everything from negotiation pet peeves to role-playing, strategies, tactics, and mindsets. They drive home important negotiation concepts in a fun and light-hearted manner that everyone can enjoy. Check it out!

How to Use Framing in Negotiations with Joel Trachtman, Ep #31110 Oct 202200:24:48

What is framing? How do you use framing in negotiations? How do you use framing to win arguments? In this episode of Negotiations Ninja, Joel Trachtman joins us to methodically dissect the topic. 

Joel Trachtman is a Law Professor, who practiced for 9 years on Wall Street before shifting to teaching international law for the last 30+ years. He wrote the book, “The Tools of Argument: How the Best Lawyers Think, Argue, and Win” to simplify the use of legal arguments in other contexts. 

Outline of This Episode
  • [1:27] Learn more about Joel Trachtman
  • [2:20] The basics of framing in negotiations
  • [4:16] Framing is a matter of imagination and preparation
  • [6:51] The best ways to win arguments with contracts
  • [12:08] If you can’t win on substance—argue procedure
  • [15:53] Who does the burden of proof fall on?
  • [17:38] The mistakes lawyers make in developing arguments
  • [20:35] Don’t ignore the importance of checklists
The basics of framing in negotiations

Are the words you use important? Or is it how you use those words that determine success? 

Framing is putting a particular argument into a pre-existing narrative. That narrative must have consequences. 

Is it a case of self-defense—or did someone commit murder? You must look at the facts, prioritize certain facts, and establish a frame. Any circumstance you’re arguing can be looked at in different ways. So you need to understand how your counterparty is looking at it. Once you gauge how they’re framing it, you can stress a different framing.

Health-based restrictions on cigarettes or sugary drinks can be seen as public health issues or freedom/human rights issues. You have the ability to take the facts and establish a different narrative to help a counterparty reach a different conclusion. 

Everyone has multiple concerns and narratives in their lives that aren’t always consistent. If you can frame something one way, you might be able to persuade someone else of your position. 

Framing is a matter of imagination and preparation

Joel notes that it’s important to be imaginative and prepared. What are the different ways in which this context could be understood by the counterparty? What are they thinking? How can you shift the way they’re thinking? What facts can you emphasize to do that? A healthy curiosity toward how someone else views something is where many people struggle. How do you say what you need to say so it resonates with that person? 

Is there a precedent?

Lawyers look at prior cases to see if there is “precedent” for an argument in the current case they’re working on. It can be used in general negotiations as well, i.e., “This is the way we’ve always done this.” In discussing precedent, you must look for ways that the current case is similar to a previous case (or cases) with the outcome that you desire. You have to select the characteristics of the current circumstance and compare them to a prior case in which things came out the way you want. 

What mistakes do negotiators often make when they’re developing an argument? What do you do if someone isn’t acting rationally? And if you can’t argue on “substance” how do you argue procedure? Joel answers these questions—and much more—in this episode of Negotiations Ninja. Don’t miss it!

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Bridging the Gap Between Procurement and Sales with John Barrows, Ep #31003 Oct 202200:38:30

How do we begin to alter the animosity that can exist between procurement and sales? How do we begin to facilitate open dialogue? John Barrows believes that it’s time to address the elephant in the room. It’s time to change the conversation. Changing the narrative begins with having simple, genuine conversations. Learn what you can do to bridge the gap in this throwback episode of the Negotiations Ninja podcast!

Leveraging the Science of Social Proof in Negotiation with David Hoffeld, Ep #30926 Sep 202200:26:05

David Hoffeld is the CEO and Chief Sales Trainer at the Hoffeld Group. They conduct research across social psychology, cognitive psychology, neuroscience, and behavioral economics and apply it to selling and negotiating. 

What has science proven regarding how our brains work? How do you apply that to how you sell? It provides instant clarity and helps you reach success. Leveraging science makes you predictably more effective. Learn all about leveraging the science of social proof in this episode of Negotiations Ninja.

Outline of This Episode
  • [1:34] Learn more about David Hoffeld
  • [2:23] Leveraging the science of social proof
  • [6:26] What to do when you trigger reactance
  • [10:13] How to “boost the mood” of the buyer
  • [14:29] The presentation versus the perception of value
  • [20:04] Learn about David’s book, “Sell More with Science” 
  • [21:04] The detriment of a fixed mindset
The basics of social proof

There are simple strategies everyone can follow to influence others. Social proof is one example. Social proof connects the persuasiveness of an idea with how other people are responding to it. It’s why everyone reads best-sellers, watches Blockbuster movies, or goes to a business with great reviews. If other people are having a good experience, it must be good, right?

Social proof is powerful. You can frame suggestions and insights with it. It naturally causes the brain to lower the perception of risk. And we all know that humans are risk-averse. They don’t want to make a bad decision. So when you can leverage social proof when you frame things, it significantly increases the likelihood that people will comply with what you said. It also piques naturally curiosity. 

Leveraging the science of social proof in negotiation

Social proof also prepares people to be more receptive to whatever you share. It can be applied through testimonials, statements, sharing narratives, and more. How can you apply it in a negotiation or sales call? 

As you apply social proof, remember that similarity amplifies its impact. So share specific examples similar to the people you’re negotiating with. It amplifies the persuasive clout and makes it more compelling. It helps people see what working with you would be like through the lens of results from people like them. 

Once you master the science of social proof, it’s easy to adapt other principles of influence. But every once and a while, you’ll hit a snag and trigger reactance.

What to do when you trigger reactance

When you walk past a sign that says “Don’t touch, wet paint” you want to touch the paint, right? Everyone has the same reaction. Why does a sign telling you not to do something cause you to do that very thing?

Reactance is psychological arousal that occurs when you perceive your ability to freely choose is being restricted by another person. Good or bad, we want every decision to be our own. It’s why people don’t like working with salespeople. They don’t like to be pressured. 

When you try to create urgency or make a strong business case, you’ll run the risk of creating reactance. Reactance kills influence. So how do you reduce reactance? When you make a suggestion and a strong business case, let people know that it’s entirely up to them. It boosts compliance significantly. When you get out of the way, it allows the business case to shine. They feel a sense of urgency and it will amplify your influence. 

David shares more tips and strategies on how to boost your influence in this episode. Don’t miss it!

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What Makes a Great Sales Manager? Throwback with Rene Zamora, Ep #30819 Sep 202200:25:19

We all know what great sales managers look like (the Office, anyone?). So what are the prerequisites that make someone shine in a management role? Are they conversational? Do they communicate well? Do they understand the different facets of negotiation? These are just a few of the qualities that Rene Zamora believes you need to look for in a candidate. He shares what excellence looks like in a sales manager in this throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja. Check it out! 

Why Negotiation Without Emotional Intelligence Misses the Mark per Joanna Shea, Ep #30712 Sep 202200:34:09

Joanna Shea is the Managing Partner of the Negotiations Collective. She brings almost 20 years of experience in the corporate world working on major acquisitions and divestments to the team. They blend the corporate world and behavioral psychology to help negotiators realize success. 

What is the difference between intelligence (IQ) and emotional intelligence (EQ)? How is a blend of both of them important to the success of a negotiation? In this episode of Negotiations Ninja, Joanna shares why negotiation without EQ is useless. Don’t miss it! 

Outline of This Episode
  • [1:24] Learn all about Joanna Shea
  • [2:26] Negotiation without EQ is useless
  • [3:38] How to deal with conflict in a negotiation
  • [6:24] How to ask better questions to uncover information
  • [13:42] Why negotiators default to blaming others for mistakes
  • [17:11] Intelligence versus emotional intelligence
  • [22:09] Why people fear dissecting their mistakes
  • [26:28] The proximity complex explained
  • [29:06] Use your power of persuasion for good
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Jeanette Nyden Uncomplicates Scope of Work, Throwback, Ep # 43208 Feb 202400:31:21

Scope of work clauses aren’t technically complex or complicated. But they’re where people repeatedly make mistakes. Jeanette starts by making sure the business objective is clear, creates good acceptance criteria, gathers the right KPIs and SLAs, and collaborates with her counterparts. Jeanette uncomplicates scope of work clauses in this throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja. 

 

Automating Supplier Negotiations with Arkestro, ThrowBack with Edmund Zagorin, Ep # 30605 Sep 202200:30:18

Automating supplier negotiations is easier than ever with Arkestro (formerly BidOps). Arkestro takes multiple variables—including behavioral analysis—into account to help forecast the outcome of negotiations. Edmund, the founder and CEO of Arkestro, shares how automating some aspects of supplier negotiations is the way of the future in this throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja.

Why You Should Approach Negotiation with a Bartering Mindset with Brian Gunia, Ep #30529 Aug 202200:22:37

Why should you approach negotiation with a bartering mindset? You have to think of negotiating as making a set of mutually beneficial trades with a series of people. You’re walking around a market and identifying partners with compatible needs and offerings. But there are some mental hurdles to overcome. So Brian Gunia joins me in this episode of Negotiations Ninja to share more about bartering and discuss how powerful it can be in the negotiation process.

Outline of This Episode
  • [1:25] Learn more about Brian Gunia
  • [2:07] The difference between bartering and bargaining
  • [4:13] Why did bartering become popular during the pandemic?
  • [6:54] Why Brian wrote a book about bartering
  • [9:27] The mistakes people make in the bartering process
  • [14:08] Map out the full range of available partners
  • [16:17] Tap into why something is valuable to a counterparty
  • [18:46] Common objections to the bartering mindset
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Why an SDR Isn’t the Enemy, Throwback with Morgan Ingram, Ep #30422 Aug 202200:32:31

Morgan Ingram has a background in sales, specifically as a Sales Development Representative (SDR). The object of the role? To build out the sales pipeline. It’s a daunting task that’s fraught with dreaded cold calls. But Morgan has beyond succeeded in his role. In this throwback episode of Negotiations Ninja, Morgan shares his secret strategy and how procurement can work in sync with sales. Don’t miss it! 

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