Explorez tous les épisodes du podcast Navigating Major Programmes
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| Building an Engaging Infrastructure Podcast from the Ground Up | 19 Jan 2026 | 01:07:50 | |
What’s going on off-mic for the Navigating Major Programmes podcast team? Riccardo kicks off Season 4 with a behind-the-scenes conversation with Mikaila (writing and marketing) and Mary (podcast production). The three experts from across the communications spectrum join forces to unpack all that happens before the interview begins and after the recording stops. Thoughtful preparation meets natural curiosity to deliver a show that so many people in the industry and beyond now tune into every week. In this episode, the trio delves into how Riccardo sources guests, the difficulty of scheduling around the busy timelines of professionals, and how both Riccardo’s workflow and confidence have advanced over more than 80 episodes. The back-and-forth becomes a friendly debate over the benefits and drawbacks of AI in writing and podcasting, from audio cleanup and title generation to voice cloning. The team recognizes that authenticity, emotion, and human effort are all in flux as automation continues to dominate our workflows. On the heels of a milestone season, the fourth installment of Navigating Major Programmes will bring a fresh cohort of insightful professionals—both those newer to infrastructure and well-established—with the goal of further elevating the industry, one conversation at a time.
Quote: “If you have something interesting to say, my platform is your platform.” - Riccardo Cosentino The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Leadership, Courage, and Alignment in Major Projects | 15 Dec 2025 | 00:09:33 | |
In Season 3, Navigating Major Programmes expanded the podcast’s primary goal—to go beyond the tools and frameworks of program delivery into the humanity behind it—with amazing results. In this wrap-up episode, Riccardo reviews the past year, celebrating the panelists, guests, and listeners who make the show possible. He highlights salient points from Uncharted Conversations and Master Builders, points that truly capture the breadth and depth these collaborators have achieved, both behind the mic and every day in their roles as leaders and innovators. With nearly twice as many episodes and double the weekly listeners from Season 2, the 2025 season gave Riccardo and his co-hosts and guests so many opportunities to explore both the big picture thinking and practical applications that are shaping—and shaking up—the industry today. In January 2026, Navigating Major Programmes will return for season 4 with even more inspiring stories, game-changing ideas, and disruptive conversations about the future of program management. Disclaimer: Navigating Major Programmes believes in adapting with technological advances. This episode was narrated by an AI-generated voice of the program host. Key Takeaways:
Quote: “The future of this industry will be built by those who lead with humanity.” - Riccardo Cosentino The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Self-Improvement and Strategic Leadership in Infrastructure with Annie Ropar | 13 Oct 2025 | 00:50:02 | |
Where can your career take you when you’re open to learning more? In this episode of the Master Builders series, Annie Ropar—the CFO of the UK’s National Wealth Fund (formerly the UK Infrastructure Bank)—joins Riccardo and Shormila for a candid conversation about lifelong learning, leadership humility, and how a start in finance has evolved into purpose-driven management in infrastructure. Annie’s dedication to curiosity and building great teams is a throughline in her career. A transition from the private to public sector reshaped Annie’s understanding of success—shifting from rapid execution to long-term and varied stakeholder impact. She outlines their different approaches, with the latter’s focus extending beyond amassing revenue to providing lasting social value. With humour and realism, Annie speaks to numerous industry motifs, including the senior-level gender gap and the demands of executive leadership. Her perspective highlights why today’s major programmes demand a special kind of master builder—one who can leave their ego behind and lift the whole team forward. Key Takeaways
Quote options: “I really have a fundamental care for not just my box or whether it's a small box, big box, but also about the people around me, even if they work in different parts of the business, et cetera. I always look at it from the perspective of, I'm an owner of this organization. I may not have shares, I may not have a stock certificate, but I am responsible for everyone in this organization.” - Annie Ropar The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Stewards of the Public Good: Defining Project Sponsorship with Andrew Antinucci and Carol Deveney | 06 Oct 2025 | 00:54:27 | |
What is the role of the sponsor in planning and delivering major projects? When it comes to public transit infrastructure, on time and on budget is only part of the story. In this episode of Navigating Major Programs, Andrew Antinucci and Carol Deveney—seasoned sponsorship and governance experts at CPCS—join Riccardo in a layered and comprehensive conversation exploring what it really means to ensure not just completion but the benefits of every major programme. The three self-professed transit geeks unpack this evolving role in Canada. The sponsor is critical, but often misunderstood, responsible not just for justifying cost and schedule, but for identifying and defending monetizing and non-monetizing benefits throughout a project’s lifecycle—for the communities the build will employ, serve, and exist within. From the business case to resisting scope adjustments to navigating multi-layer funding in a changing political climate, project sponsors are quietly shaping the success of the country’s most ambitious projects. Key Takeaways
Quote: “When we're spending public money, I think all of us would agree we've got an absolute duty to say that we're spending it wisely because these things are expensive. There's never enough money to go around, not just our sector, but all the sectors. So the focus on cost should always be there. But, I think benefits are more difficult to explain because a lot of the time, especially in major projects, people get money, they understand what cost is, but the benefits are sometimes more nuanced.” - Carol Deveney The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Powering Our Planet: the Promise of Major Nuclear Energy Projects with Julianne den Decker | 29 Sep 2025 | 00:46:25 | |
What does our society—and our country—need to know to embrace nuclear as the answer to the global energy situation? Riccardo sits down with the SVP of CANDU Energy at AtkinsRéalis, Julianne den Decker, in this intricate and important conversation. Julianne is the perfect spokesperson to clarify the history and impressive comeback of nuclear energy, a once-maligned and feared innovation. A lifelong advocate for the science, safety, and societal benefits of this baseline power source, Julianne explains with detail and passion how the decarbonization movement, security concerns, and AI’s unprecedented energy demands make nuclear a no-brainer for uninterrupted electricity around the world. She and Riccardo unpack the misunderstood safety record and strategic advantages of the made-in-Canada nuclear solution, as well as the practical importance of major project best practices in ensuring the success of complex nuclear infrastructure builds. This episode presents insights on the future of energy that make a compelling case for why nuclear matters now more than ever. Key Takeaways
Quote: “It gets back to fundamental project management. With power generation, we are dealing with a very sophisticated customer that not only runs a big fleet of reactors, but they’re not new to major project execution. There was a lot of thought put into how are we going to run this kind of a major project and how are we going to listen to those who have been around the block and then do this project differently. There’s not one silver bullet you can point to, but many many things we’ve done correctly.” - Julianne den Decker The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| AI Agents at the Table: the Evolution of Disputes in Major Projects | 22 Sep 2025 | 00:56:50 | |
How are new procurement approaches, policies, and politics affecting disputes in major programmes? As collaborative and alliance models continue to rise in popularity, the old disputes playbook is rapidly being rewritten. It’s an exploration perfectly suited to Uncharted Conversations, so Riccardo and Melissa Di Marco take aim at the ways dispute resolution is evolving—courtroom litigation and boardroom negotiations, data-driven forensics, and increasingly AI-assisted workflows. The focus on alliance-style contracts is shifting fault lines and muddying traditional supply chain relationships within the industry. Legal grey zones introduced by expanding digital components are challenging the dispute landscape, and algorithms are having an outsized influence on expert analysis. Melissa also breaks down why environmental disputes are primed to be the next big thing. This episode explores how teams delivering major infrastructure projects must adapt not only their contracts but also their thinking to resolve issues in an industry where the source of conflict, and the tools to address it, are changing fast. Key Takeaways
Quote: “Data won’t eliminate disputes. It might potentially weaponize them in some way, because you can take the same dataset and one party can cherry pick whatever set of data to help them tell a different story, so we might actually see disputes about data about disputes”. - Melissa Di Marco The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Systems Change: Building the Skills to Lead in Public-Private Partnerships with Lisa Mitchell | 15 Sep 2025 | 00:59:32 | |
How do you lead a national infrastructure organization in the process of building a new future? This episode for the Master Builders series, invites in one of the experts behind the curtain: Lisa Mitchell, the President and CEO of the Canadian Council for Public-Private Partnerships (CCPPP). In her deep-dive conversation with Riccardo and Shormila, she speaks to her journey from politics to the forefront of Canada's infrastructure evolution. Early experiences in Ottawa prepared Lisa for the fast pace and competing priorities of national infrastructure. She shares how she navigated imposter syndrome and career pivots, and why she sees this moment as a powerful opportunity to modernize P3s. The cross-cultural strengths of this modality, many of which are unique to Canada, create a strong foundation from which to build a groundbreaking tradition, especially today, when infrastructure finds itself front and centre in political discourse. From fostering industry-wide collaboration to advocating for programmatic delivery and inclusive stakeholder engagement, Lisa takes us on a candid, capable, and humble exploration of how we might build a better Canada—one conversation, one contract, and one conference at a time. Key Takeaways:
Quote “It's naturally built on competition, but I had never met a group of private and public sector folks that were so willing and committed to sit at the table and figure out how to make things work and to do good things. If we've got a sticky policy thing, I can pull a group of people together to sit around a boardroom table very easily. They're so committed and willing and they're able to put the individual needs on the back burner to have these conversations and really look at it as industry specific. And I've just been so fascinated by that.” - Lisa Mitchell The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Canada’s Future as an Innovator in Major Projects with Tim Murphy | 08 Sep 2025 | 00:57:20 | |
What does it take to deliver nation-building infrastructure in an era of political momentum, regulatory complexity, and evolving priorities? Prepare for an evocative conversation with Tim Murphy, as we explore a complex and important question for our country’s future. Tim is the Executive Vice President and Chief Strategic Affairs Officer at AECON with an illustrious 40-year career in litigation, politics, and major projects. This wide-ranging discussion is an expert look at the opportunities and obstacles shaping Canada’s infrastructure in the coming years. Tim and Riccardo unpack the interplay between political will, regulatory frameworks, Indigenous participation, and shifting public expectations. Success depends on more than funding and approvals: it calls for courage, collaboration, and a willingness to rethink entrenched models. Tim speaks to lessons learned from vertical and horizontal building projects, the complicated role of Indigenous reconciliation in project planning, and the urgent need for productivity and innovation in the construction sector. This conversation highlights both the challenges and the untapped potential of thinking—and building—bigger. Key Takeaways:
Quote: “To be honest with you, divergent interests inside the indigenous communities too. You'll have some national organizations who have certain kinds of views as national organizations, and very particular communities who are supportive of particular projects and want it to proceed because they see it as the chance for economic reconciliation, jobs, contracts, opportunities. etc. So I think there's a process that needs to happen to have those discussions at a outsized project specific. And then part two is the project specific. So it's not going to be fast.” - Tim Murphy The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| The Long Game: Finance, Policy, and Leadership in Infrastructure with Sara Alvarado | 01 Sep 2025 | 00:52:24 | |
What does it take to thrive in the highly complex and male-dominated financial industry? This episode of Master Builder highlights the journey and achievements of Sara Alvarado, a powerhouse in infrastructure finance whose career has spanned continents, crises, and industry and policy overhauls. With co-hosts Riccardo and Shormila, Sara shares how her experience as an immigrant shaped her resilience. She details her role in defining infrastructure as an asset class in Canada and describes the unique combination of ever-growing policy and risk expertise that has kept her on a steady career trajectory for more than 30 years. From spearheading early renewable energy financing deals to helping shape global UN guidelines on digitalization and gender equality, Sara reminds us that success is driven by more than technical skills—it calls for hard work, curiosity, and passion. This conversation is an opportunity to explore the interplay of finance, infrastructure, and social impact. Sara recently received the King Charles III Coronation Medal for her sustainable finance contributions and is a true Master Builder—one who has already begun to shape her legacy. Key Takeaways
Quote: “I think there's a catalytic point. It is in our brains and we feel the need to do more. So it's either moving into something different, moving into a much more senior role, decision maker, leader position, or you can move into boards. And that will come at different times for different females. But what I want them to know is, yes, there is a second career curve. And it can be hard because you're learning something else. But it is very rewarding. And it happens at a time where females are much more confident.” - Sara Alvarado The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| The Leadership Gap: Building Better Leaders for the Future of Canadian Infrastructure | 25 Aug 2025 | 01:03:36 | |
How do we transform infrastructure experts into infrastructure leaders in time for Canada’s building boom? Canada is facing a future of increased infrastructure projects, but the country has a poor track record when it comes to delivering major projects. In fact, “over time and over budget” is a global industry trope. In pursuit of systemic, upstream solutions, Riccardo compiles an esteemed panel of experts for a timely and critical conversation: how do we elevate the leadership of multi-billion-dollar major infrastructure programmes essential to our country’s national culture and well-being? Barriers to collaboration, differences and similarities between infrastructure programmes and corporations, the behavioural versus the technical—the industry leaders break down what’s going wrong and why we haven’t fixed it yet. Unwilling to stop at theory, the group posits and troubleshoots actionable ways governments and the private sector could work together to quickly and effectively shore up Canada’s infrastructure industry. Key Takeaways:
Quote: “I think we can create a program that builds on the global experience and best practices, but also captures Canada’s own project delivery cultures, business practices, community needs, and sees leadership through that lens and enables us to deliver projects. But it's going to take governments coming on board and recognizing the value that it's not just private sector expertise on these projects. You don't just hand over a project and then say come back in five years and we'll cut the ribbon together. There's a ton of leadership that's required on the public sector side too, at the highest levels of the organization to make sure that these projects stay on track.” - Matti Siemiatycki The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Multinational, Multidisciplinary, Misaligned? Fixing What Gets in the Way of Project Success | 18 Aug 2025 | 00:57:37 | |
How does cross-over between diverse perspectives and cultures affect project delivery, and how could it be improved? In this episode of Uncharted Conversations, Shormila and Riccardo are once again joined by fellow infrastructure experts David Ho and Melissa Di Marco. Their animated discussion explores how organizational dynamics—building teams that combine both multi-service and multinational cultures—impact the successful delivery of major programmes. Jumping directly into the action items of a project, as the client often expects, is a great dopamine hit, but is it really the best approach? The self-proclaimed industry pirates call out the drawbacks of North America’s checks and balances tradition and the need for more client ownership. This episode aims the cannons at systemic assumptions and poses big questions to procurement professionals, all with the crew’s uniquely provocative and playful inspection of their industry. Key Takeaways:
Quote: “I have never seen an RFP where the client who is asking for a description of a team is doing so with reference to a real understanding of how you, private sector company, delineate the function that's responsible for the delivery of a service from the function that is responsible for the P&L from the way in which you have a team structured for a pursuit versus when you shift into execution. And even just that type of a description would be an interesting change I think for the better that would allow clients a more sophisticated understanding of how things work.” - David Ho The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| The Impact of Paddington Square’s Public Art Project with Jonathan Ring | 11 Aug 2025 | 00:41:53 | |
What does it take to transform a gateway station into a place where people pause in their head-down commute to connect and reflect? Riccardo Cosentino and returning co-host Corail Bourrelier Fabiani are joined by Jonathan Ring, the Development Director for London-based developer Sellar. They explore the public art programme at Paddington Square—one of the city’s most ambitious and complex redevelopment projects. Jonathan shares how the programme evolved from the early planning conditions to the final installation. His experience highlights the balance inherent in major projects, where diverse stakeholder voices, strict timelines, and logistical constraints pile on the pressure and teamwork is non-negotiable. Public art may be a smaller portion of the overall budget, but its impact on the public experience is profound. This episode offers an inside look at the creative and collaborative processes behind curating art in a heavily trafficked urban space. It is a conversation about leadership, legacy, and how the spaces we build shape how people feel. Key Takeaways
Quote: “We're really trying to create a place people want to dwell in because it's got very interesting areas around it. And the public art really formed a major part of that, creating a place where people dwell in. What's great is now seeing in the summer, and I bet today, people will be sitting out in the square enjoying the public realm, seeing the art and enjoying it.” - Jonathan Ring The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Systems Engineering: From Contract Requirements to Project Realization with Jared Theriault | 08 Dec 2025 | 00:45:16 | |
How do you break a massive system down into manageable parts—and make sure it all still works together in the end? Much of this responsibility falls to the systems engineer, a vital if underdiscussed position in the major programme ecosystem. In this episode, Jared Theriault joins Riccardo to demystify systems engineering and clarify why it’s an essential discipline in any construction undertaking. Four years ago, Jared graduated from Queens University with a degree in electrical engineering and signal processing. His transition into systems engineering was unexpected, but today he is a passionate proponent for future progress in the practice. Jared’s role involves ensuring every component of an infrastructure project—communications, controls, safety plans, and more—is accounted for, integrated, and doing what it’s supposed to do. Together, he and Riccardo explore the specialized tools and processes that keep long-term projects on the rails. It’s a data-heavy role, and AI and LLMs can’t be ignored. The two take a look at what the future holds for this multifaceted component so essential to the design, construction, and validation of infrastructure. Key Takeaways
Quote: “That was one of the cooler things I had done. Gathering all the requirements in one place, seeing how many we actually did have at the end. And yeah, I think it was in the tens of thousands, easily.” - Jared Theriault The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| How to Bring the Right People to the Table with Kirsten Watson | 04 Aug 2025 | 00:50:26 | |
Can you rise up in the industry without an engineering degree? Kirsten Watson, AECOM’s Transit Market Sector Lead, is a case study in how continuous passion for learning and a celebration and honing your strengths—even when they don’t appear to be the perfect fit for a role—can lead to a varied and rewarding career. Co-hosts Riccardo and Shormila sit down with the transit executive on the interpersonal side of the industry in this episode of the Master Builder series. They break down the challenges and wins of major infrastructure projects and explore Kirsten’s career trajectory from private to public and back again. Their conversation explores the reality of the skills you really need (and don’t) for leadership, particularly as a woman in the industry. Kirsten’s background in employment law and HR have instilled in her a deep respect for listening—to clients, to stakeholders, to the smartest person in the room. As she explains, that’s how she’s become the one who brings the right people to the table, and it’s how even now, as a master builder, she leads with learning and pushes herself to say yes to even the most challenging opportunities. Key Takeaways:
Quote: “I think that's what I bring to the table, is the ability to bring other people to the table. And when we're talking about women in leadership and women saying yes. Bring the right people to the table and solve the problems through that team and that collaboration trying to learn other bits of the business so that you can actually do that work.” - Kirsten Watson The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| From P3s to Alliance Contracts: Building Better Projects Together with Fred Antunes | 28 Jul 2025 | 00:50:23 | |
Even traditional contracts can be collaborative with the right team. As a seasoned infrastructure leader who has served in government, private sector, and advisory roles for more than 15 years, Fred Antunes has seen this firsthand. His extensive experience delivering large-scale projects under P3s, design-builds, and collaborative models guides this wide-ranging and nuanced conversation with Riccardo. Together, they unpack truths and myths around what makes projects work. Fred’s real-world insights help to highlight the power owners have to shape project relationships and outcomes, the dangers of shifting risk without support, and why alliance contracts call for experienced and deeply engaged teams. Fred and Riccardo reframe collaboration beyond just a type of contract and offer up a compelling case for considering the unique needs, risks, and capabilities of each project team when choosing a delivery approach. Key Takeaways
Quote: “The thing about the alliance that's really interesting is, it’s like setting up a new company. Where you basically have an alliance leadership team that is providing oversight and direction. They're like the board of directors. You appoint somebody who's the CEO and then you basically create an organization that includes people from the owner, the designer, the contractor, put them together and you may have somebody from the owner's team managing somebody who's in the design team, or in the construction team, but they're all working for the best outcome of the project. And working as one coherent management team.” - Fred Antunes The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Defying Doubt and Redefining Leadership with Ethel Craft | 21 Jul 2025 | 00:44:58 | |
What does it take to lead with integrity and empathy in an industry where technical expertise can quickly outweigh human connection? In this episode of the Master Builder series, Ethel Craft joins Riccardo and Shormila to reflect on a career rooted in service—from her beginnings in social services to her leadership role in Ottawa’s rail construction program. Ethel shares how a leadership course during her MBA sparked her passion for mentoring others, ultimately guiding her to pursue a Doctorate in Business while working full-time. Through personal challenges, professional pivots, and academic milestones, Ethel has remained grounded in one goal: to be a role model and a connector. She leads with a deep respect for the people around her and a clear-eyed view of stakeholder relations. Her track record highlights the vital balance leaders must strike between respect for those around them and confidence that they have earned their place, regardless of the journey that brought them to the table. Within this celebration of Ethel’s achievements is an invitation to re-envision what leadership can look like, in infrastructure and beyond. Key Takeaways:
Quote: “I felt like I was just draining everything within me, and at the same time, I needed to be a mom. And I was working, too. So, it was hard. But I had this amazing supervisor who just kept telling me, you can do this. Never putting pressure on me, telling me to take the time. And so when I talk about having a support system, it's a word that we take for granted, right? But to have that network around you that makes you feel full on the inside is crucial.” - Ethel Craft The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Dare to Disrupt: Skill Shortages, Leadership, and Innovation in Infrastructure | 14 Jul 2025 | 01:01:22 | |
Uncharted Conversations facilitates unscripted and controversial discussions aimed at disrupting the infrastructure industry. In the face of major skills shortages affecting Canada’s major programmes, Riccardo sits down with David Ho, the National Leader for Healthcare and Buildings at Accenture. What begins as a look at the skill-based industry shortcomings transforms into a nuanced conversation about cultural, structural, and leadership challenges. Is the talent shortage just about trades and technical labour, or are we also seeing a void in leadership and bold thinking? Together, David and Riccardo dig into why the industry struggles to innovate, what it would take to truly break from tradition, and how a fear-based approach to risk weakens even the most capable leaders. They explore how changing political priorities, unclear project outcomes, and resistance to outside ideas further complicate the path forward. This conversation challenges long-held assumptions and invites anyone involved at every stage of the infrastructure delivery lifecycle to have the kinds of discussions that, David and Riccardo argue, are essential to carrying the industry into the future. Key Takeaways:
Quote: “I encounter lots of different infrastructure leaders and usually conversations where these individuals are reflecting on their own organizations or on other organizations. Somewhere within the diagnosis is a problem of disempowerment. And that when people and leaders are not truly empowered, they fail to live up to what are their on paper accountabilities. And lack of empowerment at all different levels of leadership causes people to put the blinders on, work in their silo and become content or comfortable being told what to do. And that is the sort of exact opposite type of outcome and behaviour we want from leaders.” - David Ho The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Infrastructure Planning Meets Social Purpose with Matti Siemiatycki | 07 Jul 2025 | 00:46:25 | |
How do we build better cities that hold community in as high regard as revenue? It starts with an approach to urban infrastructure that goes beyond roads and bridges. In this episode of Navigating Major Programmes, Riccardo sits down with Matti Siemiatycki, Director of the Infrastructure Institute and a professor at the University of Toronto. Matti draws from both his academic work and practical involvement in major projects to outline the potential of community impact, intentional design, and interdisciplinary collaboration. The right balance of these components can change the way cities are built and expand their positive impacts exponentially. From reimagining schools and fire stations as mixed-use spaces to championing health-oriented communities, Matti offers a compelling argument for infrastructure that does more than meet technical needs. He explains why universities are uniquely positioned to support community-driven projects, how the Infrastructure Institute leverages academic insight into real-world support, and why we need a mindset shift to make the most of aging public assets. With case studies that range from TIFF Bell Lightbox to stacked fire stations, this episode challenges conventional thinking. Matti designs a hopeful vision for what’s possible when planners, policymakers, and local communities work together by design. Key Takeaways:
Quote: “I've become really engaged on this idea that we can build schools differently and that you can have a stack school. Reimagining what a mixed use school might look like. You have to make sure that the building is safe and that there's no unsupervised access between the different uses. There's always questions about where the schoolyard is going to go. Because a lot of the communities we're building now are very dense and so there's questions about like, can you have some part of the school yard on the roof of the building, for example, so it's a shared use. How does the housing actually fit up above and how do they access it?" - Matti Siemiatycki The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Delivering Major Nuclear Energy Projects with Collaboration in Mind with Carol Tansley | 30 Jun 2025 | 00:38:21 | |
What does it take to lead major programmes in one of the world’s most complex, highly regulated, and rapidly evolving sectors? Carol Tansley has built a career doing just that. In this episode of the Master Builder series, she joins Riccardo to talk about her unconventional path to leadership in the nuclear industry. Carol takes listeners through her early days in international consulting, a transformative period working in Saudi Arabia, up to her current role spearheading major nuclear projects at X-Energy in Maryland. Carol offers a candid look at what it means to lead with strategy and humility. She shares how returning to school mid-career helped sharpen her focus and how stakeholder alignment is the biggest differentiator of success. They also explore why complex infrastructure projects demand more than technical skills—genuine engagement, curiosity, and a deep respect for collaboration are equally essential. Whether you’re already in the field or considering your options in programme management, Carol’s humble and holistic perspective is a powerful reminder of how valuable and versatile project leadership can be. Key Takeaways
Quote: “But I would say, you know, from an early stage in my career, I think the thing you learn more than anything is, I'll call it stakeholder management, for want of a more delicate expression. You know, the ability to be able to help people. I mean, something somebody told me years and years ago, and this wasn't even in a work context, was when there's somebody standing in front of you, what you should do is look and think, how can I help this person? And I think if you bring that kind of mindset, you know, what can you do to try and make everybody else successful? That really helps. An ability to think about how you add value on other people's terms, not just what is valuable in your context. And I feel like that, that has served me quite well wherever I've been. You know, ability to. And the willingness to listen and understand what it is other people are needing and what will help them to be successful.” - Carol Tansley The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Public–Private Partnerships Part 2: Contracts, Contractors, and True Collaboration | 23 Jun 2025 | 00:58:50 | |
In the second installment of this two-part series on public–private partnerships (P3s), Riccardo and his expert guests move from theory to practice, digging into the real-world complexities and nuances that make or break these projects. Emily Moore (University of Toronto), Pouya Zangeneh (University of Calgary), and Rob Pattison (Rob Pattison Consulting) return to share lessons from the field and reflections on how innovation, collaboration, and contract design shape project outcomes. Together, they explore why achieving true output-based specifications is so challenging in regulated environments, when P3s work best for complex projects, and how to balance innovation with safety and quality. The conversation also delves into the human factors behind success: how courage, trust, and integrity influence outcomes far more than contract structures alone. From navigating biases in project estimation to building the conditions for genuine collaboration, this episode offers a candid look at what it takes to deliver high-quality infrastructure through public–private partnerships today. Key Takeaways
Quote “I'm first and foremost a contracts person, and I love contracts and I believe in freedom of contract. Freedom of contract means, at its heart, the freedom to make what might appear to others to be a bad deal, right? So let me offer the three of you a deal. I'm going to pay you, I don't know, a thousand bucks a year. And if I get drunk and fall asleep smoking in my bed, you're going to build me a new house for a couple of million bucks, anybody want to sign that contract with me, right? You'd be crazy to. That's a crazy contract, right? But my insurance company does that for me. They take that bet and they make a bucket of money doing it. Maybe not these days, but, you know, traditionally, that's a contract that looks ridiculous on its face, and yet it works.” - Rob Pattison The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Public–Private Partnerships Part 1: The Evolution of P3 in Canada | 16 Jun 2025 | 00:47:53 | |
Public–private partnerships (P3s) have long been used as a tool for delivering complex infrastructure projects in Canada, but the landscape is changing. In this episode, Riccardo and his panel of experts explore how P3s have evolved and what that means for today’s projects, funding models, and risk-sharing dynamics. In this two-part series, Emily Moore (University of Toronto), Pouya Zangeneh (University of Calgary), and Rob Pattison (Rob Pattison Consulting) bring industry, academic, and legal perspectives to the conversation. Together, they unpack how shifting risk appetites, funding structures, and partner roles are reshaping both the potential and the challenges of using P3s. From the financial nuances of availability versus revenue deals to the often-overlooked behavioural impacts of changing equity stakes, this discussion offers timely insights for anyone curious about what makes these partnerships succeed or fail. Key Takeaways
Quote “Any contractor that they're going to hire is completely independent. They're a third party. And so if to protect your equity as the owner and if to protect the business, you've got to bankrupt your contractor, well, you know, you won't have qualms about that. I mean, other than as a sort of human being walking around on this planet. But from a financial perspective, you won't have any qualms about that because your only relationship is that contract and you've got securities and you've got this and that and you've got the other thing. And the interesting thing in a P3 is if everybody in that family has their own P and L and if they take it to the logical extension, and Ricardo, you'll correct me, but if you're a public company, every officer of that company who's got a P and L has a fiduciary duty to deliver for the public company. And well, my responsibility is my P and L. And if protecting my P and L means bankrupting another division, actually that's what I got to do unless the board wants to overrule me.” - Rob Pattison The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Outcomes Before Process: When Collaborative Contracts Are Doomed To Fail | 09 Jun 2025 | 01:04:47 | |
Welcome to Uncharted Conversations, a new Navigating Major Programmes series designed to disrupt industry thinking one unscripted conversation at a time. In each episode, the panelists bring their diverse perspectives to the table as self-dubbed industry pirates, adopting a mercenary approach to calling out industry challenges. Up first: collaborative contracts. David Ho is the National Leader of Healthcare and Buildings for Accenture. Melissa Di Marco is a Partner and specialist in Project Advisory and Disputes at Accuracy. Shormila Chatterjee is the Vice President of EY. Together, these experienced programme professionals discuss the complexities of collaborative contracting in the infrastructure sector, including often-seen core competency shortcomings and the importance of empowering the right decision makers. Too often, collaboration is misconstrued as the project goal when it is, in fact, merely one possible vehicle. This conversation delves into market participation, trust issues and risk allocation, and why technical skill shouldn’t top the recruitment checklist. Decision-making, competency, and governance are painstakingly dissected in this no-holds-barred discussion that highlights the problems not with collaborative contracts themselves but with the assumption that choosing this model will fix all the problems. Join these leaders as they explore why the infrastructure industry might be ready for a seismic systemic shift. Takeaways:
Quote: “The idea will be to enter into a process with a winning counterparty. We can call them whatever we want, development partner, whatever it might be. But that period of dialogue and iteration, if it is prescribed by an even more detailed rulebook, in my mind, it doesn't matter if the end of that rulebook still doesn't have a fixed price. All you're doing is layering on a set of rules that is now a wholly dependent upon the behavioural interpretations of the people playing the game. And if the behavioural interpretation is, I'm going to use the rules to my advantage to exploit your bad writing of the rules, or I'm going to use the rules to my advantage to compel you to obey no matter what. Then forget it. It's not collaborative. It is just a more involved rule book for less certainty of outcome.” - David Ho The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Public Art Installation as an Intrinsic Part of Building Development with Corail Bourrelier Fabiani | 02 Jun 2025 | 01:01:58 | |
How is urban art developed in cooperation with planners, developers, and architects? Public art is designed to be viewed and enjoyed from many angles. Riccardo embraces this 360-degree perspective in this episode by examining a component of major programmes that is not often explored: the development of the impressive art installations on display in many public buildings. He speaks with Corail Bourrelier Fabiani, a former host of the podcast and the passionate programme manager behind London’s Shard and Paddington Square sculptures. Corail outlines the intricate relationship between public art and major urban developments in the city, from why it’s so important to inspire ongoing wonder in our concrete jungles to the challenges of getting involved late in the development process. Her experiences highlight the importance of stakeholder collaboration and the many moving parts that must be navigated to create something beautiful, lasting, and welcoming for tourists and residents alike—something that helps define the fabric of the city around us. Takeaways:
Quote: “There are a lot of sculptures around us that we, after a while, we don't even see. And I would say, like, it's true. It's true with a lot of the urban fabric that when you get used to something, you just stop like looking at it. If you take the tube in Paris, for example, like the very old entrances to the tube with like the lights and the way they're shaped, etc. This kind of Art Deco, like, beautiful entrance. Most people don't even see them anymore, you know. Or if you walk along alongside the Thames and you go closer to the Tate, you would see these lampposts that have big fish at the bottom of them that are, you know, around the lamppost. And a lot of people, because we're so. There are so many images, etc, or we're too much into our own world, like thinking about our issues, our, like our next meeting, et cetera, we just walk past them without even noticing what's around us. And I think art, the magic of art is that sometimes it grabs your attention, you don't know why, and it makes you stop for a second and realize that your surroundings, or be completely amazed that you notice that element.” - Corail Bourrelier Fabiani The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Cross-Sector Applied Learning in Major Programme Management with Tim Fitch | 01 Dec 2025 | 01:06:45 | |
What correlations can we uncover when we extend construction and infrastructure concepts beyond the industry? Exploring high-stress railway builds to supply chain and project management parallels with fashion design, this episode of Navigating Major Programmes is packed with sector-spanning insights. Riccardo sits down with one of his mentors, Tim Fitch, to reflect on the enduring patterns that emerge when delivering major outcomes under tight timelines. Tim is a veteran director of building development, a market strategist, and this year’s Master of the Worshipful Company of Constructors in London. Through intriguing stories from decades working in diverse roles, Tim shares how early lessons in modular design, safety, and worker wellness continue to inform his work today. He also explores the fascinating history of his livery and London, England’s other Worshipful Companies that support industry camaraderie and higher education in the trades throughout the city. Together, these industry experts take a look back, as well as ahead, to the future of professional leadership in the built environment. Key Takeaways:
Quote: “You think you're the king of the world because you've done all this innovative stuff and you take a bite too much and then you spent about six months digesting it, with a lot of Alka Seltzer required. So that was a really important lesson that it's very easy to get carried away with success.” - Tim Fitch The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Construction Technology and the Importance of Industry Adaptation with Alice Leung | 26 May 2025 | 00:47:08 | |
What does the future of construction technology hold for industry and investors? Through more than a decade of work in construction tech and AEC-focused venture capital, Alice Leung has seen much of the technology being developed for construction in recent years, as well as the challenges forward-thinking tech startups face as they pursue adoption and implementation of their software within this hard-to-crack industry. Navigating Major Programmes delves into the past, present, and future of construction technology as Riccardo speaks with Alice about the sector’s opportunities and limitations. They discuss the importance of sector expertise in venture capital, the evolution of AEC technology, and the impact of delivery models on technology adoption. Their conversation explores the significance of collaboration and the impact technology can have on this approach, as well as incentive alignment and the potential of robotics in addressing labour shortages. Alice’s take on cultural shifts that could lead to tech adoption and improve the safety and efficiency of building projects is both realistic and optimistic, emphasizing the rewarding nature of building long-lasting infrastructure. Takeaways:
Quote: “I think, you know, when you, there's a lot of, kind of different angles and different problems where you can really see this, right? One of my favourite examples is obviously around BIM and VEC, right? Like, BIM has been around for a long time. Why hasn't it truly been adopted, right? And in theory you should have this federated model that everyone can leverage, right? That's the goal, right? Is like, you have this one single source of truth with everything that you need obviously to different complexities across the supply chain. But let's just pretend that we're in this perfect world right now where we have that fully coordinated model, everything makes sense. If we build off of it, we won't have any rework. We shouldn't have that many issues in the field. But if you think about just pure, if this was fixed price, contract, design, bid build with BIM, why does that fail? Because everyone needs a different level of detail. Everyone wants to maybe add or use different data in those models and to get to a model that is accurate enough for construction, you're really asking the design teams to put in so much more effort than really what they normally do. I think this is all about incentive alignment. And with the traditional contracting methods it's like, oh, why would I add more detail in my goodwill to help this other company who may mess me up in the future, right?” - Alice Leung The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Managing Risk: Striking an Insurance Leadership and Personal Life Balance with Sarah Roberts | 19 May 2025 | 00:41:08 | |
How does a master insurance executive balance globe-trotting, raising a family, and pursuing meaningful projects? In this episode of the Master Builder series, Shormila explores the realities of professional and personal life in the C-suite with Sarah Roberts, the president of INTECH Risk Management. Sarah delves into the history of insurance, both her own and how this vital component of infrastructure projects first came to be. In an industry that is evolving due to increased global and climate change demands, clear communication, public-private partnerships, and professional liability insurance as a whole have never been more important—but they’re only part of the story. Sarah’s intricate balance of career and family life is relatable or aspirational to so many. It highlights a dedication to both her chosen industry and personal passions, from overseeing risk management projects around the world to the challenges and rewards of being a working mother in two countries. Key Takeaways:
“I think probably that sort of light bulb moment for me was, probably sitting in a meeting one day, and you had the insurance brokers and you had claims adjusters and they were all talking insurance speak to one of our clients. And you could just see them all sitting there, five of them with their eyes completely glazed over, having no idea what was going on. And I sort of stepped in and I said we need to speak English to people, right? And you know, it's great to throw around all the terminology and I am the biggest insurance geek. So you get me on the phone with insurance people and that's what we will speak, acronyms just like engineers will, right? We will, we will speak all of that sort of insurance ease that's there. But when you're talking to a layperson, it doesn't mean anything to them.” - Sarah Roberts
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| The Interplay Between Infrastructure and Government Policy with David Ho | 12 May 2025 | 00:49:34 | |
What does it mean to build infrastructure that goes beyond causing or just avoiding friction with the policy side of the table? In this episode, David Ho—former lawyer, infrastructure strategist, and seasoned capital program and project manager—joins Riccardo to discuss how major projects are shaped not only by procurement models but by the complex, nuanced world of policy-making. David has experience in helping stakeholders understand the limits of doing everything at once and the possibilities that emerge when we confront different questions. From collaborative contracting models to data governance in healthcare infrastructure, he challenges them to think beyond technical fixes and ask, What’s the real problem we’re solving for? The relationship between infrastructure professionals and policymakers should involve informing policy, not just executing it. David and Riccardo explore why infrastructure can struggle to keep pace with need and the role risk aversion plays in enacting change. ”It's like we didn't examine what were the original root cause problems that were driving us to what we've been feeling and seeing in the last few years. And by that I mean what are both the political and market dynamics that are bigger than just us, uh, in the infrastructure space? I'll speak for what I see in Ontario, in Canada, because I obviously know that best. But I, I have a suspicion this is very, very similar in other places around the world. If you ask people, you know, why are we going into a collaborative model, by the way? You know, whatever your working definition of collaborative or progressive actually means, I think you would get a lot of different answers of what people are trying to solve for. And none of them are necessarily wrong. But if you add them together,sometimes we try and be too intellectually precise. We talk about risk, actually we talk about risk a lot, but we don't talk about market forces and dynamics and we don't talk about political pressures other than to just be really negative about them, but they're actually real.” - David Ho Key Takeaways:
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| The Powerful Impact of Specialization and Dedication on Long-Haul Projects with Wendy Itagawa | 05 May 2025 | 00:44:18 | |
In engineering today, more and more people are choosing the generalist route, often pivoting off that solid, multi-faceted educational foundation into different fields. But what happens when you take the opposite route, honing in to pursue an aspect of your work that truly drives your passion? In today’s episode of Navigating Major Programmes, hosts Riccardo Cosentino and Shormila Chatterjee speak with a Master Builder who did just that. After spending her early years on industrial projects, Wendy Itagawa returned to school for a Master’s in structural engineering, focusing on bridge design. Today, she serves as the Executive Director of Vancouver’s Pattullo Bridge Replacement Project, of which she’s been an integral part for more than seven years. She shares how working with and leading teams through the whole lifecycle of projects impacts how she views the work she has completed on some of the country’s most high-profile transportation initiatives. ”I really believe that even if it's a design build contract, it doesn't necessarily mean you don't have to be in one of these progressive collaborative models. So really comes down to the relationship and helping, helping each other. And I think sometimes what I've seen is, you know, owners or on their team that too almost afraid of helping too much or because you're afraid of getting claims or creating too many changes. But I think it actually prevents that and you know, claims are going to happen either way. So, but you can mitigate impacts a lot more if you do work collaboratively because you can sometimes reduce the time and, and costs if you work together on it. So yeah, I think sometimes being like that hands off owner approach is not, is not helpful.” — Wendy Itagawa Key Takeaways:
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| Leveraging Empathy and Alignment to Build Successful Collaborative Projects with Emily Mahoney and Sarah Laurence | 28 Apr 2025 | 01:07:39 | |
How can teams take the concept of collaboration beyond lip service and virtue signalling to create stronger, more successful projects? We know that collaboration is the cornerstone of alliance contracting models, but countless research shows us that when it comes to behavioural cohesion, teamwork, and empathy, the type of contract is immaterial—collaborative teams across industries and contract type perform better, see greater successes, and save more money than teams built on competition and infighting. Emily Mahoney and Sarah Laurence, the founders of Mahoney & Matthews Consulting, work with high-performance teams, not only preparing them for the behavioural assessment that will win the project but also instilling the tenets of collaboration to carry all the way through to a successful culmination. Creating a true team takes more than a couple of nights out at the pub. It calls for hard, intentional conversations, deep honesty, and being human. “So if you think about it, all leadership really is, is a set of behaviours that are used in a certain way. And it's not exactly the same behaviours as collaboration. They can obviously, they obviously overlap a lot. But collaboration as well is a set of behaviours that are used in certain ways. So in terms of organizational development org psych behaviours, there is a canon of research and of literature and there are people who spend a lot of time and money not only researching these things, but also making them accessible to people through books, podcasts, TED talks, etc.” - Emily Mahoney Key Takeaways:
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| Fueled by Passion: Create a Career Path That Facilitates Ongoing Growth with Salima Rawji | 21 Apr 2025 | 01:01:25 | |
It can be easy to forget just how much seemingly unrelated skills and wisdom can inform the work we want to do. Impostor syndrome so often steps in, leaving us doubting our expertise because it doesn’t fit precisely with the knowledge we imagine a new position demands and holding us back from pursuing what we really want to achieve. In this episode of Master Builders, Ricccardo and Shormila sit down with Salima Rawji, the President and CEO of York University Development Corporation. A theme of passion, creativity, and positivity runs through Salima’s long and varied career. She has experienced first-hand how experience in the public sector can inform the private and non-profit and vice versa and how, all along the way, collaboration makes things better. Salima’s willingness to say yes, refusal to accept the no’s, and determination to always learn more and know her facts have led to an inspiring and fulfilling career path. ”In terms of the imposter syndrome, I also think I pair it with the fact that like the answer for me is it never goes away because I think there's also this like desire for like continual growth and ambition. And so, perhaps I didn't feel it as much. I would say in my later years at Create TO, where I had been doing that work, I knew I was an expert. I was kind of like in a position of leadership and seen to be a leader by the political side, by the administrative side, by the staff that worked for me. Maybe that didn't exist as much, but the second I kind of took the step to grow, it's like instantly back. And so, I feel like maybe that's just a part of what growth is.” - Salima Rawji Key Takeaways:
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| Primed for Disruption: Construction’s Internet 1.0 Moment with Patric Hellermann and Shub Bhattacharya | 07 Apr 2025 | 01:01:07 | |
What if the construction industry is on the brink of a transformation as significant as the rise of the internet? With construction representing a massive portion of global GDP and a growing demand for infrastructure, how can innovation meet the challenge of a shrinking skilled labor force? In this episode, Patric Hellermann and Shub Bhattacharya, co-founders of Foundamental and voices behind the Practical Nerds podcast, sit down with host Riccardo Cosentino to explain why they believe construction is the next major frontier for venture capital. They discuss how venture capital acts as a flywheel—fueling innovation, enabling founders, and driving customer adoption—and why patience and compounding value are crucial in this sector. Patric and Shub highlight the importance of understanding construction’s unique complexities, explain why AI should be seen as an enabler rather than the main solution, and examine how hidden innovations and new business models, like cloud manufacturing, are reshaping the industry. “I really feel like we are in what I would describe as the equivalent of the internet 1.0 era in construction. Imagine you are somewhere, say 1994 or 1995, and someone tells you, there's an opportunity to be investing for the next decade or two in the internet. That would be a tremendous opportunity. Perhaps one of the greatest venture opportunities of a lifetime, maybe the greatest, right? I think it feels comparable. It feels very large. ” — Shub Bhattacharya Key Takeaways
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| Fostering Innovation Through Collaboration on Alliance Contracts with Jane Ogilvie | 24 Mar 2025 | 00:47:43 | |
In this Master Builders episode of Navigating Major Programmes, hosts Riccardo Cosentino and Shormila Chatterjee challenge the mindset around alliance contracts with Jane Ogilvie, the Alliance Director of Toronto’s East Harbour Transit Hub Alliance and a 20-year veteran of major projects management in her home country of Australia. Jane shares the details of this collaborative approach—one that has long been popular in certain industries Down Under but is still quite new in Canada. From method variations to adopting an alliance contract model mid-project to the future of this framework in Canada and beyond, Jane’s insights highlight the benefits of abandoning an us-versus-them mentality in favour of more collaboration between project participants. “I've worked on P3s and alliances and a lot in between, as I mentioned. And I think P3s still have their place. You know, I think you need a mix of the different styles of contracts, and you need to look at the risk profile of a project to see which one makes sense. You know, there are some types of contract where I would always say, you know, a P3 is probably a better model. And then there's ones that I'd say, obviously an alliance is a better way to go as an outcome. So as an owner, I think you need to look at that spectrum of where is the risk profile? How much of the risk can you share versus what's still a retained risk that you need to retain? As an owner, you can't push everything onto a contract.” - Jane Ogilvie Key Takeaways:
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| Embracing AI to Transform Risk Management in Construction with Luigi La Corte | 10 Mar 2025 | 00:43:25 | |
Host Riccardo Cosentino sits down with Luigi La Corte, CEO and Co-Founder of Provision, a Toronto-based AI construction technology company. Luigi recounts his journey from working alongside his father’s contracting business to a role in P3 (Public-Private Partnerships) at Plenary, where he observed firsthand the mounting costs of construction disputes and claims. Driven by a desire to create positive change, Luigi launched Provision in 2022, evolving the venture through several pivots to its current mission—helping contractors and subcontractors identify and mitigate contractual risks early and effectively. Together, Riccardo and Luigi discuss the promise of AI in reducing disputes, optimizing processes, and ultimately aiming to put more profit into contractors’ pockets, thereby fueling a more innovative and rewarding construction industry for all. " I do think the industry is very receptive. They want to solve problems. And I don't think AI is a lot of hype. I think what it's done, especially in construction, is it's helped people standardize. One of the biggest problems in construction is that a lot of the information is contained within PDFs and unstructured documents. But now you can create a taxonomy for each of those things and plug them into, you know, the respective workflow. That's magic. And then also, LLMs can emulate some level of human thought and exercise some discretion in a very specific sense." – Luigi La Corte Key Takeaways
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| The Human Side of Major Projects with Melissa Di Marco | Master Builders | 24 Feb 2025 | 00:42:53 | |
In this episode of Navigating Major Programmes, Riccardo Cosentino and co-host Shormila Chatterjee sit down with Melissa DeMarco, a seasoned construction and infrastructure leader with a PhD in construction management. With over 15 years of industry experience, Melissa has led projects across industrial, institutional, mining, and infrastructure sectors. Currently a partner at Accuracy, a boutique consulting firm, she has played a pivotal role in expanding the company’s infrastructure and energy practice in Canada and globally. She delves into her academic journey, including her groundbreaking PhD research on global project networks, which allowed her to work with major industry leaders and analyze the mindset shifts required for success in complex, multi-location projects. "People think of construction as a hard science, but then I think the angle that you took, which is sort of the same angle that I studied on, it's a social science, because ultimately there's so many people, and as soon as you have an aggregation of so many people, it then becomes a social environment, rather than a hardcore technical environment." – Melissa DeMarco Key Takeaways:
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| The Future of the Infrastructure Conversation: 2026 and Beyond | 24 Nov 2025 | 00:54:11 | |
How can the infrastructure industry encourage more open discussions between diverse sectors? In the final Uncharted Conversations episode of the year, Riccardo, Shormila, and David come together to look back at 2025 and ahead at what’s to come, reflecting on the themes, tensions, and unanswered questions of the season. This year saw murky decision-making persist despite infrastructure’s growing prevalence in every Canadian industry. This characteristically honest and envelope-pushing roundtable teases apart the challenges of navigating building and public sector leadership in this economic reality. The group digs into the impact and barriers that risk-averse and unwieldy systems erect against innovative Canadian ideas and efficient project management. They propose new lines of inquiry—including public finance, ideal delivery model selection, and fundamental government mechanics—for the coming year. The pirates also share their personal experiences recording free and unscripted conversations about an industry whose hatches are so tightly battened down with technicality and precision. This episode is part retrospective, part provocation, and a clear invitation to keep the conversation going. Key Takeaways:
Quote: “I feel that now, speaking from a private sector lens, the indecision is a real dampener for my optimism and enthusiasm for how we’re going to tackle some big challenges.”- David Ho The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| Breaking The Bottleneck with Ali Mafi | S3 EP3 | 10 Feb 2025 | 00:39:56 | |
Riccardo Cosentino welcomes Ali Mafi, an industry veteran whose career spans construction, automotive, and consultancy. Ali shares his journey from site engineer at Heathrow Airport’s Terminal 4 to leading transformative project management practices at Balfour Beatty, where he introduced innovative methodologies like critical chain management and lean principles. Drawing comparisons with the automotive sector, Ali emphasizes how better project monitoring, bottleneck identification, and accountability can improve outcomes in construction. "My definition of project management is knowing the impact of every task on the end date, every day. If you don’t know that, you cannot manage the project. You’re managing tasks, or you’re managing resources, but you’re not managing the project." – Ali Mafi Key Takeaways
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| Building Value for Society with Chantal Sorel | Master Builders | S3 EP2 | 27 Jan 2025 | 00:41:21 | |
In this Master Builders episode of Navigating Major Programmes, Riccardo Cosentino and co-host Shormila Chatterjee sit down with previous colleague and friend Chantal Sorel, a seasoned leader whose 30-year career spans architecture, project management, and executive roles across industries including infrastructure, mining, and social infrastructure. With extensive international experience and a commitment to delivering value through challenging projects, Chantal reflects on her journey and shares lessons from managing high-stakes initiatives like the McGill University Health Centre. Chantal discusses the importance of breaking barriers as a woman in construction, fostering ethical collaboration, and adapting project management practices to meet evolving challenges. Her insights highlight the critical role of leadership, strategy, and societal impact in shaping the future of the industry. "Project management is about maximizing the result with the resources you have. That’s it. My definition of project management is maximizing the result with the resources you have and using them in the best combination—the right capacity and to the right objective and the needs that you have to fulfill, and not detracting from that. And this is what it is about. So for me, it’s always been a passion. I said I’m a builder. And of course, I’ve practiced infrastructure all my career because, for me, it was a way to deliver value, value for society. I’m a bit of an idealist, but I think that society needs value, and we’re there to deliver value." – Chantal Sorel Key Takeaways
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| Embracing Innovation and Elevating Major Programmes in 2025 and Beyond | S3 EP1 | 13 Jan 2025 | 00:08:56 | |
Welcome back to Navigating Major Programmes and welcome to season 3 of our podcast! In this episode of Navigating Major Programmes, Riccardo Cosentino launches the third season by reflecting on the podcast’s journey and setting the stage for an exciting year ahead. From embracing the challenges of imposter syndrome to exploring transformative industry trends, Riccardo shares his vision for 2025 and how the podcast will continue to elevate the conversation around major programmes.
“I believe this is the year where technologies like AI, machine learning, and predictive analytics are no longer just the ‘next big thing’ but are truly embraced on a mass scale across the industry. It’s no longer about being curious about these technologies; it’s about fully accepting and harnessing their potential to drive real change. And that change will define the future of how we operate—from project management to risk assessment and, especially, preventive maintenance.” – Riccardo Cosentino
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| Here’s What I’ve Learned About Our Industry So Far with Riccardo Cosentino | S2 EP23 | 16 Dec 2024 | 00:11:25 | |
In this episode of Navigating Major Programmes, Riccardo Cosentino wraps up season two by revisiting the key themes and groundbreaking insights that defined the season. From the transformative power of AI in project management to the essential role of human collaboration, Riccardo explores how major programmes are evolving and shares his vision for the future. This season featured distinguished guests who brought fresh perspectives on technology, leadership, stakeholder management, and public perception. Riccardo reflects on these conversations, highlighting how AI-driven tools, digital twins, and predictive analytics are revolutionizing infrastructure projects while emphasizing the enduring importance of empathy, trust, and inclusivity. “While AI and technology are reshaping how we plan and execute major programmes, it’s important to remember that success in infrastructure isn’t just about the tools we use—it’s about the people who bring these projects to life. As we navigated the complexities of infrastructure, we often touched on the human element that underpins successful project delivery.” – Riccardo Cosentino
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| Late and Over Budget: Alan Mosca on How AI is Transforming Risk Management |S2 EP22 | 02 Dec 2024 | 00:44:10 | |
In this episode of Navigating Major Programmes, Riccardo Cosentino sits down with Alan Mosca, CTO and Co-Founder of nPlan, to explore the intersection of artificial intelligence and project management. Alan shares his journey, from founding nPlan in 2017 to transforming how major programmes forecast and mitigate project risks using AI-powered tools. Alan dives deep into the technicalities of nPlan’s innovative approach to project scheduling, risk assessment, and portfolio management. Through real-world applications and fascinating anecdotes, he discusses how AI can turn vast amounts of project data into actionable insights, paving the way for more proactive and informed decision-making in the infrastructure and construction sectors.
“You think about like you're starting a business, right? You start from what's a problem that you want to solve. And so we started from the end effectively. Problem that we want to solve is: why is it that when humans say that they're going to build something or do a project it then almost invariably takes twice as long and four times the amount of money than you said it was going to take.” – Alan Mosca
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| Judy Wilson’s Legacy: Leadership and Legacy with Marianne Smith | Master Builder Series | S2 EP21 | 18 Nov 2024 | 00:39:32 | |
In this special Master Builders episode of Navigating Major Programmes, Riccardo Cosentino and co-host Shormila Chatterjee are joined by Marianne Smith, a distinguished partner at Blakes National Infrastructure Group, to celebrate her remarkable career and pay tribute to Judy Wilson, a trailblazer in Canada’s infrastructure industry. Judy, a world-renowned procurement lawyer and a champion for diversity, left an indelible mark on the sector before her passing. This episode honors her legacy while highlighting Marianne’s own contributions as one of Judy’s closest mentees. With over 20 years of experience in infrastructure and procurement law, Marianne has played a pivotal role in shaping public-private partnerships (P3s) across Canada. She shares her journey from working alongside Judy to becoming a leader in the field, emphasizing how mentorship and advocacy for diversity have been central to her success. "Judy was a champion of diversity. She was an ally before we had the nomenclature of what an ally is. She used her power, authority, influence. Not just selfishly, but also to promote, women, people of color, anyone who might've felt, that they didn't belong in the boardroom or around the table, talking about tough, infrastructure type issues. She really did impact so many people in that way." – Marianne Smith Key Takeaways:
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| The Importance of Thought Leadership with Mikaila Kukurudza | S2 EP20 | 04 Nov 2024 | 00:47:31 | |
In this episode of Navigating Major Programmes, Riccardo Cosentino sits down with Mikaila Kukurudza to explore the significance of thought leadership—and some of the biggest mistakes professionals make on LinkedIn. Mikaila Kukurudza, founder of Colada Marketing Ltd., has been instrumental in helping both people and brands tell their stories, including working with Riccardo over the last three years. If you’ve come across any of Riccardo’s LinkedIn articles, chances are, Mikaila is the pen behind them. Is hiring a ghostwriter unethical? Why does personal branding matter for the infrastructure industry—and beyond? And how do social media platforms shape major programs? Riccardo and Mikaila dive into all this and more. “You already have a personal brand, whether you like it or not. It’s just a matter of whether you’re going to define and refine it into something you’re happy with. For anyone listening—even if you’re not actively posting on LinkedIn—you already have a personal brand. It’s up to you to shape it into how you want to be represented online.” — Mikaila Kukurudza
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| Strategic Connections: Annie Goodchild’s Blueprint for Stakeholder Success | S2 EP19 | 21 Oct 2024 | 01:16:50 | |
In this episode of Navigating Major Programmes, Riccardo Cosentino sits down with Annie Goodchild, a passionate advocate for inclusivity in major projects. As a trans, non-binary professional in the infrastructure industry, Annie shares insights on industry resilience, stakeholder management, and the value of diverse perspectives in shaping successful projects. The duo discusses all this, plus the role of public inquiries in major projects. Annie Goodchild brings a wealth of experience in communications and stakeholder outreach, driving strategic initiatives for complex infrastructure projects across Canada. As the Director of Communications and Stakeholder Outreach at Kiewit, they currently lead efforts on Ottawa’s Confederation Line extensions, focusing on building essential relationships for project success. Known for their commitment to teamwork, learning, and connection, Annie believes that true progress happens when everyone moves forward together. “We are the eyes and ears in many ways of how the project's going to do everywhere else, but in the very boardroom that it's executed from, and that those outside forces, the climate around the boardroom affects the boardroom more than sometimes they'd like. So let us help. Let us be in the room. Let us share our understanding of what's coming and help us plan a mitigation around any problems we might see, because that's our ultimate benefit to the major project." – Annie Goodchild
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| P3s, Projects, and People: Marni Dicker’s Blueprint for Success in Infrastructure | Master Builder Series | S2 EP18 | 07 Oct 2024 | 00:51:34 | |
In this episode of Mastering Major Projects, Riccardo Cosentino and co-host Shormila Chatterjee sit down with Marni Dicker, a dynamic and bilingual senior executive recognized as one of Canada’s Top 100 Most Powerful Women and one of the Top 25 Most Influential Lawyers in the country. Marni’s accolades include the General Counsel Award for Business Achievement and the Premier’s Award of Excellence from the Province of Alberta for her groundbreaking work on the Calgary Courthouse Public-Private Partnership. With an impressive background in corporate law and a strategic leadership role in the Canadian Premier League, Marni shares her extraordinary journey from criminal law to becoming a transformative figure in infrastructure and business strategy. Known for her ability to deliver projects on time and within budget, she discusses the importance of diversity and inclusion in leadership and her commitment to mentoring the next generation of female leaders. "Remember, I knew nothing about construction and infrastructure engineering, and they would ask me a very substantive question. What would you do if this happened on one of your sites? And I did the following. I would certainly call external counsel who is specialized in that area, and I would ensure that we got the best advice. Basically, I was punting it down the line because I had no idea, none, how to answer their questions. What I quickly learned is that's what they liked. No one is expected to know everything you are supposed to be able to know how to use your resources, how to get the right expert advice." – Marni Dicker
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| Revolutionizing Infrastructure: Unlocking AI’s Untapped Potential with Dev Amratia| S2 EP17 | 23 Sep 2024 | 00:40:36 | |
In this episode of Navigating Major Programmes, Riccardo Cosentino dives into an engaging conversation with AI visionary Dev Amratia, uncovering how AI is revolutionizing the infrastructure industry. Together, they explore the game-changing potential of harnessing data from over 760,000 global projects to forecast outcomes with precision, drastically improving risk management and efficiency. Dev reveals the untapped possibilities of AI, from smarter decision-making to reshaping the very way projects are delivered, offering insights that challenge traditional approaches and inspire a bold new future for infrastructure.
"What if we had the experience of 760,000 projects between the two of us and then worked on a project, wouldn’t we be hundreds of times more effective than we currently are?" – Dev Amratia
Dev is the Co-Founder and CEO of nPlan, where he is at the forefront of rethinking how project outcomes are forecasted and addressing risk in the built environment. With an aerospace engineering background and 9 years of capital project management experience, he combines both technical and commercial expertise to tackle complex challenges. Dev also co-authored the UK Government's AI Review (2017) and is a Chartered Engineer (CEng) through the Royal Institute of Mechanical Engineers.
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| The Risk, Cost, and Advisory Roles of the Project Control Manager with Mohammed “Moody” Saad | 17 Nov 2025 | 00:40:23 | |
Where does project control exist in the hierarchy of major programme management? This important role is far more than just financial reporting, providing oversight, or raising all the red flags—it's serves as the critical support function that enables project managers to see clearly and act decisively. In this episode, Mohammed “Moody” Saad joins Riccardo to clear up the common misconceptions around project controls. Moody is the VP of Project Delivery at AtkinsRéalis and a sessional lecturer for Toronto Metropolitan University’s Masters of Project Management program. The project controls manager is a trusted advisor and data wizard who connects the many moving parts of every infrastructure venture. Moody draws on his decades of experience to outline what sets high-performing professionals in his industry apart, including their ability to analyze problems, ask the right questions, and circumvent misplaced emotional or reactive decisions. He and Riccardo also explore the need for early integration of project controls and how the right tools and leadership culture are essential for every programme’s success. Key Takeaways:
Quote: “One thing that is often overlooked in organizations is a project management culture. And that's where I think a lot of organizations struggle. Because if you don't have that buy in from executive leadership in an organization to drive that project management culture, then you are not setting up the project management and project controls personnel for success.” - Mohammed “Moody” Saad The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn:
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| From Banking to Building with Vickie Turnbull | Master Builders Series | S2 EP16 | 09 Sep 2024 | 00:47:09 | |
In this episode of Navigating Major Programmes, Riccardo Cosentino sits down with Vickie Turnbull, a trailblazer in infrastructure finance with over 35 years of experience in the banking industry. Vickie shares her unique journey from corporate banking to becoming a key figure in infrastructure finance, shedding light on her extensive work with leading Canadian banks like TD Securities and RBC. Now, in what she calls "Vickie 2.0," she remains deeply involved in the sector, leveraging her expertise in advisory roles and as a board member for Infrastructure Ontario. Vickie also dives into her commitment to mentorship and advocacy for women in infrastructure, reflecting on her role in founding the Women's Infrastructure Network (WIN) and Women in Energy Canada (WIECAN). She emphasizes the importance of diversity and inclusion in infrastructure and discusses how these networks have evolved to support and empower women in the industry. "I think that's one of the things I really love about the whole infrastructure space is it takes a village to get these transactions done. I think that's been part of the fun part for me is that I have so many different people that I talk through as I'm working on a transaction. Right? And you've got all these people that you can interact with. And again, you get that whole diversity. People are looking at things from various different ways. And at the end of the day, we've got these fabulous assets that are getting built for the use of Canadians and replacing, you know, things that really needed to be replaced. There's a lot more that still needs to be done. So I'm a part of it, but I don't see myself, like I, it's hard and I don't know whether that's just how I think through things, how I look at it, but I do really, like, it does take a village to get these things done and I couldn't do it alone on my own. Absolutely not." – Vickie Turnbull Key Takeaways:
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| Complex Projects: A New Approach | The Science of Complexity | S2 EP15 | 26 Aug 2024 | 00:28:12 | |
Host Riccardo Cosentino explores untapped knowledge in project management, drawing from his Oxford insights. This episode of Navigating Major Programmes delves into integrating social sciences and complex adaptive systems, addressing how minor changes can lead to significant impacts due to project complexity. Join Riccardo as he navigates through the complexities of project management, offering innovative solutions to embrace and manage these challenges effectively in a new mini series: The Science of Complexity. Could your approach to project management be outdated? "I am convinced that, although we have achieved many incredible things already as project leaders and managers, there's something missing, something that's already out there in the world's knowledge that we're not using well enough." – Riccardo Cosentino
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Mentioned Links: The Fifth Discipline: The Art & Practice of The Learning Organization (Recommended Reading) How Understanding Systems Thinking Changed My Career (Riccardo’s LinkedIn Article) Organizing for Work (Recommended Reading) Nassim Nicholas Taleb’s Published Works (Recommended Incerto Reading) Digital Construction Ontologies
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| The AI Revolution in Major Programmes with David Porter | S2 EP14 | 12 Aug 2024 | 00:34:22 | |
In this episode of Navigating Major Programmes, Riccardo Cosentino chats with fellow Oxford MMPM alumnus David Porter about the game-changing potential of artificial intelligence in construction and project management. David shares how AI can drastically improve project forecasts and decision-making, even in an industry slow to adopt new technologies. He also discusses innovative strategies from his company, Octant AI, that tackle data management challenges and boost project performance. The AI revolution is here—will you be ready? Should AI be considered a general-purpose technology (GPT)?
"So, you know, this is a huge, huge change that we are facing. And there is going to be massive disruption, you know, like, I mean, there just is. And so those who learn to use the tool, like those who learned how to use an internal combustion engine to put an airplane in the sky, those people are the people who are going to be our leaders." – David Porter
David Porter brings a wealth of experience from the construction industry, having spent his entire career in this field. As the co-founder of Octant AI, he has been at the forefront of developing AI tools that enhance project performance and decision-making. His insights into the challenges and opportunities of integrating AI into construction projects provide a compelling narrative for the future of project management.
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| Concept to Concrete: Digital Twins in Major Programmes | S2 EP13 | 29 Jul 2024 | 01:05:24 | |
Welcome to a special collaboration episode of the Navigating Major Programmes podcast featuring Henry Fenby-Taylor from the Digital Twin Fan Club. Joining them is Associate Professor Jenn MacArthur from Toronto Metropolitan University to discuss digital twins in major projects. They delve into complex programme management, emerging digital trends, AI's transformative power, and essential leadership for billion-dollar projects. The trio also explores the nuances of building information management (BIM), digital twins' practical uses, and sustainable practices shaping future cities.
“But what if you could actually transfer learning from previous buildings into that one, from previous genericized systems into a new system. And you built in this online learning capability, that your twin was actually capable of learning what was typical for the building as the data came in. And then adapting those algorithms to be able to tune them to that building, with very, very little human intervention.” – Jenn MacArthur
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Jenn MacArthur is an Associate Professor at Toronto Metropolitan University, specializing in mechanical engineering and sustainable infrastructure. Her career spans from energy and water management in India to leadership roles in design engineering and construction in Canada. In academia, she focuses on Building Information Management (BIM), AI, and digital twins, aiming to optimize building operations and energy use through advanced technology applications. Henry Fenby-Taylor is the CEO of Athenophilia, where he assists clients on their digital transformation journey, creating software applications, digital twins, and information management capabilities. He also hosts the Digital Twin Fan Club podcast, exploring topics related to digital twins, AI, and the broader infrastructure industry. Henry is engaged in driving innovation and managing change within organizations, working closely with stakeholders to accelerate change and drive innovation.
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