Natural Order Podcast – Détails, épisodes et analyse

The first and perhaps only presidential debate happened on June 27. Adam Haman and Brian O'Leary have the definitive smackdown of the whole thing.

The fellows awarded a winner and offered some commentary. Hilarity ensues (though not necessarily intentional - it's a factor of who was "debating.")

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Natural Order Podcast: Ep. 12

 You’ve Got Mail! ...unfortunately.

 https://naturalorderpodcast.com/ep12/

 On this episode, Brian O’Leary and Adam Haman take on all things electoral. They start with the tricky issue of universal mail-in balloting. Then they proceed to talk some smack about the wretched state of our opaque election systems. And finally, they take the gloves off and take a poke at untrammeled democracy itself. Good stuff!

 Today’s show brought to you by the Tom Woods School of Life

What’s in the box?! A little background on elections and universal mail-in balloting where it has been around a while. Some good, some bad: How Oregon became the first state to vote by mail in a presidential election. Vote-by-mail in Oregon Oregon officials say vote-by-mail system improves security and turnout. A Brief History of Vote by Mail in Oregon. Rigged: How the Media, Big Tech, and the Democrats Seized Our Elections, by Molly Hemingway Mollie Hemingway Outlines “Rigged” 2020 Election at Hillsdale in DC. How Voting by Mail Could Cost Biden the Election. The Risks of Mail-In Voting   This guy “voted” by mail. You wanna be like him?!

 

Brian mentioned a great movie featuring voter-shaming and suppression, Copperhead. Go watch it. You’re welcome!

 

Merritt Paulson and Joe Buzas, two guys who really know a thing or two about making “good governance” good for them!   Brian’s short series on the goofy stadium situation in Portland: Stop With the Soccer Stadium Stupidity Poltroonery In Portland Prevails   Adam’s “other” gig: The Nevada Libertarian Party Presents: The Battleborn Podcast

Co-hosted by fellow Nevadan Randy Sadac, the LPNV’s Battleborn podcast features commentary about goings on in Nevada from a liberty perspective. Here you can find some great interviews with people doing great things to advance liberty in the state of Nevada, and beyond.

Don’t miss their great interview with economist (and libertarian superhero) Bob Murphy!

Randy and Adam Interview Robert Murphy

 

Brian’s empire of great content: BrianDOLeary.com

Where you’ll find all of the interesting things Brian is up to, including:

·        The O’Leary Review – Writing and associated Podcast

·        The Brian D. O’Leary Show

·        Who Is In The Tom Woods World?

·        and more.

While you’re there, don’t forget to buy Brian a coffee. He’ll greatly appreciate it, especially a darker roast.

Adam also runs on coffee, and he would greatly appreciate any contributions that listeners would like to make to help keep him in front of the microphone and producing content.

 

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Natural Order Podcast: Ep. 11

 Who’s throttling the vibrant society?

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 On this episode Brian O’Leary and Adam Haman take on frat boys! No, no… that’s not right. They analyze the history of fraternal organizations in society. What are/were they? What happened to them? And are they making a comeback?

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We’ll give you a hint: It rhymes with “The Other Mint”.

 

What is the proper size and scope of government?

The smaller is the size and scope of government, the larger is the size and scope of private institutions.

That’s just math.

 

Alexis de Toqueville (1805 – 1859)

This French aristocrat and liberal politician loved America and wrote about it often:

 

“Americans of all ages, all stations of life, and all types of disposition are forever forming associations. In democratic countries knowledge of how to combine is the mother of all forms of knowledge; on its progress depends that of all others.”

 

“The more government takes the place of associations, the more will individuals lose the idea of forming associations and need the government to come to their help. That is a vicious circle of cause and effect.”

 

“Society will develop a new kind of servitude which covers the surface of society with a network of complicated rules, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate. It does not tyrannize but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of time and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.”

“It is easier for the world to accept a simple lie than a complex truth.”

 

“As for me, I am deeply a democrat; this is why I am in no way a socialist. Democracy and socialism cannot go together. You can’t have it both ways. Socialism is a new form of slavery.”

 

“Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”

 

“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”

  Private associations are often mocked in popular culture.

Remember The Flintstone’s and the “Loyal Order of Water Buffaloes”? And their “Grand Poobah”?.

 

And then there was Happy Days and Mr. Cunningham’s “Leopard Lodge #462”.

 

Despite the mockery, private associations are vital to a healthy and vibrant society.

Mutual aid societies used to proliferate all across the country, often oriented around a specific type of vocation or avocation, or just a specific locality. They have been crowded out by government, but they’re making a comeback.

 

Americans form private institutions for all manner of reasons, social, charitable, to do good locally – very similar to the kinds of things churches would do, but not necessarily bound to any specific religion.

 

Humans love to connect this way and we still do. The connectivity made possible by the Internet helps in this endeavor. The lockdowns enacted under COVID helped motivate a whole bunch of mutual aid type societies to form.

 

The destruction wrought by the government (hat tip to the ACA) to health care has prompted the formation of cost-sharing associations related to health care. Many oriented around religion, but not all.

 

This guy gets it:

“A fraternal analogue existed for virtually every major service of the modern welfare state including orphanages, hospitals, job exchanges, homes for the elderly, and scholarship programs.

But societies also gave benefits that were much less quantifiable. By joining a lodge, an initiate adopted, at least implicitly, a set of survival values.”

 

“Societies dedicated themselves to the advancement of mutualism, self-reliance, business training, thrift, leadership skills, self-government, self-control, and good moral character. These values, which can fit under the rubric of social capital, reflected a kind of fraternal consensus that cut across such seemingly intractable divisions as race, sex, and income.”

 

“It is worth noting that the women who belonged to these societies, regarded themselves as members of fraternal rather than sororal societies. For them, fraternity, much like liberty and equality, was the common heritage of both men and women.”

 

 – David Beito, Senior Associate Fellow at the Heritage Institute, author of, From Mutual Aid to the Welfare State: Fraternal Societies and Social Services, 1890-1967 (2000)

 

 

Adam’s “other” gig: The Nevada Libertarian Party Presents: The Battleborn Podcast

Co-hosted by fellow Nevadan Randy Sadac, the LPNV’s Battleborn podcast features commentary about goings on in Nevada from a liberty perspective. Here you can find some great interviews with people doing great things to advance liberty in the state of Nevada, and beyond.

Don’t miss their great interview with economist (and libertarian superhero) Bob Murphy!

Randy and Adam Interview Robert Murphy

 

Brian’s empire of great content: BrianDOLeary.com

Where you’ll find all the interesting things Brian is up to, including:

·        The O’Leary Review – Writing and associated Podcast

·        The Brian D. O’Leary Show

·        Who Is In The Tom Woods World?

·        and more.

While you’re there, don’t forget to buy Brian a coffee. He’ll greatly appreciate it, especially a darker roast.

Adam also runs on coffee, and he would greatly appreciate any contributions that listeners would like to make to help keep him in front of the microphone and producing content.

 

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Natural Order Podcast: Ep. 10

The ‘necrotizing’ of the American Mind – a commentary on the corporate media

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On this episode Brian O’Leary and Adam Haman roll up their sleeves and take on the Deep State! What are we to make of how America’s “top cops” are handling the Biden Crime Family’s influence peddling schemes? And what is the media doing?

 

Carlin warned us: It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it!  Who watches the watchmen? What the news is, depends on who reports it!

Ever was it thus. Here’s the New York Post laying out the story thus far:

Ex-CIA Chief Spills on How He Got Spies to Write False Hunter Biden Laptop Letter to “Help Biden”

And from the Wayback Machine, here’s how Politico handled this story in 2020.

Hunter Biden Story is Russian Disinfo, Dozens of Former Intel Officials Say

As you might imagine, some people have some very serious questions now:

Congress to Blinken: Whassup, brah?

You know it’s a big problem when even CNN is forced to cover the story!

GOP Lawmakers Ask Blinken for Information on 2020 Public Letter From Ex-Intel Officials Casting Doubt on Hunter Laptop Story

 Not to worry, though. Newsweek will still spin this in a comically biased way.

Jim Jordan’s Credibility Questioned Over Whistleblower’s Testimony

 

Again, from the Wayback Machine, here’s the Washington Post doing the bidding of the Deep State and the DNC (but I repeat myself).
Three Weeks Before Election Day, Trump Allies Go After Hunter – and Joe – Biden

 

And from the Way-Wayback Machine, Here’s Vox with a redacted copy of the “Schiff Memo”
Democrats’ Response to the Nunes Memo was Just Released

 

Here’s The Daily Beast with their slant:
Democrats Shred Devin Nunes’ Surveillance Memo 

(sigh)

Is it any wonder the public is confused by all this?

Those tasked with promoting justice and protecting the republic and its citizens… don’t.

We should really think about that.

 

Adam’s “other” gig: The Nevada Libertarian Party Presents: The Battleborn Podcast

Co-hosted by fellow Nevadan Randy Sadac, the LPNV’s Battleborn podcast features commentary about goings on in Nevada from a liberty perspective. Here you can find some great interviews with people doing great things to advance liberty in the state of Nevada, and beyond.

Don’t miss their great interview with economist (and libertarian superhero) Bob Murphy!

Randy and Adam Interview Robert Murphy

 

Brian’s empire of great content: BrianDOLeary.com

Where you’ll find all of the interesting things Brian is up to, including:

·        The O’Leary Review – Writing and associated Podcast

·        The Brian D. O’Leary Show

·        Who Is In The Tom Woods World?

·        and more.

While you’re there, don’t forget to buy Brian a coffee. He’ll greatly appreciate it, especially a darker roast.

Adam also runs on coffee, and he would greatly appreciate any contributions that listeners would like to make to help keep him in front of the microphone and producing content.

 

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On this episode Adam Haman goes solo and talks about how “what we think” literally impacts “what we see”. To make his case, Adam comes with a pile of examples and receipts. This is a fun one! Buckle up!

 

 

Blue or white dresses, Yanni v. Laurel, red spades, and a little “Orange Man bad!”

 

Be aware of what you think, it alters what you perceive!

 

Is it blue with black trim? Or is it yellow with white trim?

Do you remember that “what color is this dress?” controversy that swept across the Internet in 2015? It originated in Scotland from a family argument about a possible choice for a wedding dress. A picture was sent: See this nice blue dress? A reply came back: What blue/black dress? That’s white/gold!

 

It went viral. First on Facebook, then everywhere. What color did you see? Why do others disagree? Screen settings? Differences in retina cells? Or is it something deeper?

 

Is it an auditory hallucination? Or is it just how our brains “work”?

Here’s another thing that went viral online. Remember “Yanni” v. “Laurel”? People all across the world would click PLAY and all hear the same sound, the same set of auditory vibrations.

 

But some people heard, clear as day, “Laurel”. Others heard “Yanni”. Hilarious arguments ensued. An even better one is the “brainstorm” v. “green needle” example. Try it out for yourself. Play the sound on a loop. You’ll experience it in real time.

 

Focus on one set of letters and here one thing. Focus on the other and hear something completely different. Priming alters perception. What you think impacts what you perceive.

 

Proof that your mental paradigm determines what you “see”:

In 1949 some scholars named Bruner and Postman did a fascinating study. The subjects were told they were being tested to measure their visual acuity using pictures of playing cards flashed on a screen for fractions of a second to see how quickly the subjects could correctly identify the card.

 

But as you heard on the episode, the study actually revealed something much more interesting. Our expectations alters our perceptions. We see what we are primed to see. When the weird cards were flashed, the subjects wouldn’t seem puzzled, they wouldn’t balk, they would simply report seeing… something they didn’t see.

 

Our opinions, our “mindset” impact what we see and hear… and think.

Cognitive dissonance demands it! Do you remember hearing Donald Trump calling white nationalists “fine people”? Sorry, but you didn’t. It was a hoax.

 

Remember when he suggested that we should “drink bleach” to treat COVID? Nope. That didn’t happen either. Trump was referencing a product being tested by Aytu Bioscience at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in LA.

 

Again, we humans see what we are primed to see – what we want to see. Did Trump really praise white supremacists and suggest guzzling Clorox, or did you see a red six of spades and imagine it was really black?

 

A great little book about the brain:

A very concise but powerful book that describes what our brains are up to is On Intelligence (link) by Jeff Hawkins, the inventor of the PalmPilot and Treo smart phone, among other things.

 

Adam’s “other” gig: The Nevada Libertarian Party Presents: The Battleborn Podcast

Co-hosted by fellow Nevadan Randy Sadac, the LPNV’s Battleborn podcast features commentary about goings on in Nevada from a liberty perspective. Here you can find some great interviews with people doing great things to advance liberty in the state of Nevada, and beyond.

Don’t miss their great interview with economist (and libertarian superhero) Bob Murphy!

Randy and Adam Interview Robert Murphy

 

Brian’s empire of great content: BrianDOLeary.com

Where you’ll find all of the interesting things Brian is up to, including:

·        The O’Leary Review – Writing and associated Podcast

·        The Brian D. O’Leary Show

·        Who Is In The Tom Woods World?

·        and more.

While you’re there, don’t forget to buy Brian a coffee. He’ll greatly appreciate it, especially a darker roast.

Adam also runs on coffee, and he would greatly appreciate any contributions that listeners would like to make to help keep him in front of the microphone and producing content.

 

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Zoning vs. HOAs. Which is better? For whom? And why?

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Social Contract?  

We dig into the whys and wherefores of HOAs—as opposed to zoning regulations—from the perspective of homeowners.

What are the positives? What are the negatives?

Which is most compatible with the Natural Order?   

 

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Hey, remember that “social contract” idea? What if we actually signed such things?

 

Agreements are better than politics.

 

Which system would you rather put your trust in?

On the one hand, you can check out the neighborhood you are interested in buying into and see what condition the HOA is maintaining the community in. If you like what you see (and the house), you read the CC&Rs (Covenants, Conditions & Restrictions) and you decide if you want to abide by those rules – knowing that your neighbors are similarly bound.

 

On the other hand. You can check out the neighborhood you are interested in and check out the way it is zoned (almost nobody does this). Then, you can hope and pray that, like Darth Vader, the local politicians don’t decide to “further alter the deal” for whatever crony political motivations they might have.

 

One way sounds a lot more like a civilized society than the other, right?

 

What if we expanded this HOA model? What would it look like? Check out the concept of “covenant communities” in: Democracy – The God that Failed: The Economics and Politics of Monarchy, Democracy, and Natural Order (Perspectives on Democratic Practice) by Hans-Hermann Hoppe.

“Lovely Rita”

BO’L: In my experience living in Portland, Oregon, the proverbial “Rita” was not so lovely. The Beatles, however, have a lovely song about the lovely Rita.

Social Contract

The May 2023 issue of Chronicles has a nice article by Douglas Wilson that destroys the idea of a “social contract.”

Look up what Lysander Spooner had to say about it, as well.

Living out in the woods — You still have problems

Private Property Rights: An Endangered Species

Del Boca Vista

Kramer Runs For Condo President of Del Boca Vista | The Wizard | Seinfeld

We’ll grow on you like the “Slime Mold”

 

Adam’s “other” gig: The Nevada Libertarian Party Presents: The Battleborn Podcast

Co-hosted by fellow Nevadan Randy Sadac, the LPNV’s Battleborn podcast features commentary about goings on in Nevada from a liberty perspective. Here you can find some great interviews with people doing great things to advance liberty in the state of Nevada, and beyond.

Don’t miss their great interview with economist (and libertarian superhero) Bob Murphy!

Randy and Adam Interview Robert Murphy

 

Brian’s empire of great content: BrianDOLeary.com

Where you’ll find all of the interesting things Brian is up to, including:

• The O’Leary Review – Writing and associated Podcast
• The Brian D. O’Leary Show
• Who Is In The Tom Woods World?
• and more.

While you’re there, don’t forget to buy Brian a coffee. He’ll greatly appreciate it, especially a darker roast.

Adam also runs on coffee, and he would greatly appreciate any contributions that listeners would like to make to help keep him in front of the microphone and producing content.

 

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National Divorce?  

Today, we address the growing conversation regarding “National Divorce” in America.

What holds the US together? What is tearing it apart? What is the “natural order” of human political relations? Would a “divorce” help move us in that direction? Or away from it?

Today’s show brought to you by O’Leary & Co.

Its not you, it’s me. Just kidding, it’s totally you! Or: Honey, we need to talk. It’s an idea that is gaining traction

A sitting Congresswoman, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia recently brought the issue up. And she’s not alone.

The calls for nullification, interposition, and secession are on the rise.

The case for “breaking away” has a lot going for it

And it’s all covered in detail and with great clarity by Ryan McMaken in his 2022 book, Breaking Away: The Case for Secession, Radical Decentralization, and Smaller Polities.

Who pays the check at a dinner party? Should we decide by vote?

The example Brian mentioned appears in Michael Huemer’s great book, The Problem of Political Authority: An Examination of the Right to Coerce and the Duty to Obey.

Change is impossible… until it’s inevitable.

Feel depressed about the state of our Union? Or its very existence? Please take our word for it and read Michael Malice’s The White Pill: A Tale of Good and Evil.

You will be shocked at how brutal and murderous people can be towards one another when the vehicle by which they wield power is politics. And you will be elated at how quickly things can improve, even in the worst of situations.

How about we all try a little Common Sense?

By reading Bob Murphy’s brilliant little paper outlining the very real possibility of a Texas secession. Why and how it could come about, and what it would “look” like.

Put not your trust in false idols – like democracy

It’s a mistake. It’s a prison. Here’s the key that can release us: Democracy – The God that Failed: The Economics and Politics of Monarchy, Democracy, and Natural Order (Perspectives on Democratic Practice) by Hans-Hermann Hoppe

This book will smash your brain… in the best of ways. We’ve been brainwashed in government schools and by our society to worship democracy.

Change is inevitable.

Note: All of the books mentioned are linked to our budding Natural Order Book Club. Bob Murphy’s pamphlet is linked directly to his own website. Adam’s “other” gig: The Nevada Libertarian Party Presents: The Battleborn Podcast

Co-hosted by fellow Nevadan Randy Sadac, the LPNV’s Battleborn podcast features commentary about goings on in Nevada from a liberty perspective. Here you can find some great interviews with people doing great things to advance liberty in the state of Nevada, and beyond.

Don’t miss their great interview with economist (and libertarian superhero) Bob Murphy!

Randy and Adam Interview Robert Murphy

Brian’s empire of great content: BrianDOLeary.com

Where you’ll find all of the interesting things Brian is up to, including:

• The O’Leary Review – Writing and associated Podcast
• The Brian D. O’Leary Show
• Who Is In The Tom Woods World?
• and more.

While you’re there, don’t forget to buy Brian a coffee. He’ll greatly appreciate it, especially a darker roast.

Adam also runs on coffee, and he would greatly appreciate any contributions that listeners would like to make to help keep him in front of the microphone and producing content.

O’Leary and Company

At O’Leary and Company, our purpose is to guide the entrepreneur on his or her journey…

Brian O’Leary has navigated the minefields of self-employment for over two decades and says he’s ultimately done that, “so you don’t have to.”

Our current focus is on independent media production and to help others get out their own message.

Regarding his own entrepreneurial path, O’Leary says, “I’ve never really failed, but I sure have had a lot of opportunities for personal growth. My goal here is to help entrepreneurs so their growing pains don’t hurt as bad as mine did.”

https://olearyandcompany.com/

Society & Government  

The fellows talk about society and government…

What do these terms mean? Are they synonyms?

Does one beget the other? Can one exist without the other?

They dig into all that fun stuff!   

Today’s show brought to you by Liberty Classroom​

Get your filthy government off my beautiful society! Reject the Ring of Power!   A quote from Thomas Paine in Common Sense gets the show going:

“Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness.”

 

The Breitbart Doctrine (from the late Andrew Breitbart):

“Politics is downstream from culture.”

  What quote was Adam trying to say?

Adam was mumbling something about “The means determine the ends.” or something. What was he talking about? We don’t know, but here are a few quotes he might have been attempting to summon:

“The end justifies the means. But what if there never is an end? All we have is means.”

– Ursula K. Le Guin

“You think the end justifies the means, however vile. I tell you: the end is the means by which you achieve it. Today’s step is tomorrow’s life. Great ends cannot be attained by base means. You’ve proved that in all your social upheavals. The meanness and inhumanity of the means make you mean and inhuman and make the end unattainable.

– Wilhelm Reich

“There are times when the end justifies the means. But when you build an argument based on a whole series of such times, you may find that you’ve constructed an entire philosophy of evil.”

– Luke Skywalker (from a perhaps apocryphal Star Wars novel of some sort)

  “Governance” is perfectly natural. “Government?” Not so much.

With or without a statist government, humans naturally form hierarchies and rules for their various groupings and institutions. So long as there is more than one person in a society, humans will have governance.

But does that mean we need an actual government? Are monopolistic territorial overlords something we just can’t escape if we want to have a society?

We went from chieftains and strongmen to kings and emperors to prime ministers and presidents. Are we done “evolving” our structure of governance?

Is this bloated democratic republic thing the best we can do?

We say humans have more evolving to do, vis-a-vis political structures.

  Hmmmm.. “sheathing” or “parasite?”

Brian says, “Government is a sheathing over what is going on in society.”

Adam says, “Sheathing? More like “parasite.”

  Think humans don’t need hierarchies? Think they’re “bad”?

Nothing could be further from the truth. Hierarchies are intrinsic to our evolution. They are inescapable. They are hard-wired into our essence. Here’s a short video that underscores the point.

  Hate theory? Love fiction? Want a glimpse of what a libertarian society could be like?

Adam recommends The Golden Age Trilogy by John C. Wright:

The Golden Age

The Phoenix Exultant

The Golden Transcendence

  Wielding the ring of power makes you ugly!

Here’s what Adam thinks you look like when you say, “There oughta be a law!”

  Bitcoin

We mentioned bitcoin briefly in the podcast. Brian has a bitcoin resource page on his website:

https://briandoleary.com/bitcoin/

 

Adam’s “other” gig: The Nevada Libertarian Party Presents: The Battleborn Podcast

Co-hosted by fellow Nevadan Randy Sadac, the LPNV’s Battleborn podcast features commentary about goings on in Nevada from a liberty perspective. Here you can find some great interviews with people doing great things to advance liberty in the state of Nevada, and beyond.

Don’t miss their great interview with economist (and libertarian superhero) Bob Murphy!

Randy and Adam Interview Robert Murphy

  Brian’s empire of content: BrianDOLeary.com

Where you’ll find all of the interesting things Brian is up to, including:

• The O’Leary Review – Writing and associated Podcast
• The Brian D. O’Leary Show
• Who Is In The Tom Woods World?
• and more.

While you’re there, don’t forget to buy Brian a coffee. He’ll greatly appreciate it, especially a darker roast.

 

Adam also runs on coffee, and he would greatly appreciate any contributions that listeners would like to make to help keep him in front of the microphone and producing content.

  O’Leary Digital

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Equity & Equality ...  

The guys take on the thorny issue of equity (whatever that means) versus equality. Is it equality of opportunity?

Are such concepts even possible?

They decide all of it is rotten—inside and out.

What, then, is the right way to look at the issue?

 

Today’s show brought to you by Liberty Classroom​

Is this whole framework of “equity” and “equality” a tragic bait and switch?

 

How about liberty?

 

What the Founders thought about “equality”:

 

The original American concept of “equality” comes to us via our English forefathers and was expressed by the fine people who founded this nation as something like “equality before the law”.

Unlike us moderns, the Founders weren’t insane. Therefore, they didn’t try to convince themselves that all people are actually equal. That’s obviously untrue.

We all have different characteristics, aptitudes, interests, and are different from one another among a zillion other dimensions.

The founders believed that every citizen should be equal before the law while human relations should be governed by free people engaged in free association.

Our founders had a few tragic blind spots about who counts as “citizens,” but their notions regarding equality before the law and freedom of association, they had absolutely right.

 

We’ve gotten a bit confused since then.

 

These days, those on the far-left in politics are demanding “equity,” by which they mean “equality of outcome.”

If they sell you on that goal, here comes the kicker: To achieve “equity” these people want a whole lot of political power—and you will not like how they use it.

They want to tax and redistribute. They want to alter hiring and firing relationships. They want to regulate all manners of interaction in society.

The theft and bossiness and destructive interventions can never end because the goal of “equity” cannot be achieved.

It is a complete red herring…a total power grab.

If they successfully hypnotize you into accepting the goal, they hope you will then give them the total power necessary to try to achieve it.

The arrogance, hubris, and destructive power in this vision is worthy of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, or Kim.

Let’s not fall for it. If you want to get a sense of what such a path leads to (and if actual history doesn’t move you) check out Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged.

Too long? No problem. We’ve got you covered. All you really need is to read this magnificent passage in which some poor wretch describes the downfall of the 20th Century Motor Company.

Please believe me. Read it. You won’t regret it!

 

But we started down this slippery slope long before “equity”.

 

We fell for a poisonous concept the moment they convinced us that government power—force, in other words—should be used to achieve “equality of opportunity” among the citizenry.

While not as obviously destructive as the “equity” agenda, even this “equality of opportunity” goal is a poison pill. How is the government to ensure every person has the same opportunity?

A kid with rich parents who are smart and care about him will obviously have more opportunities than a kid from a broken home and mired in poverty. How can that problem be erased?

Even if you levied taxes like a bulldozer, how are you going to “equalize opportunity” when so many other critically important variables apply?

 

It can’t, obviously. And no government program can do anything about that except tax, redistribute (while keeping a nice chunk to feather its own nest) and boss people around.

The more force the government uses to “solve” the problem, the more destruction it causes in society. It steals. It punishes. It rewards. It bosses people around. It prohibits some associations. It mandates others.

Government power applied in this area is completely antithetical to liberty.

Let’s give up on this poisonous red herring, shall we?

 

More resources mentioned:

Keynes/Hayek rap battle videos mentioned:

Go to the show notes for Episode 3 for those.

 

Brian’s been thinking about this issue for a while. Here’s the article he mentioned in the show. From October 2011:

Office of Equity: Fine principle, waste of time

(Though your humble co-host mentions Mrs. O’Leary’s Chicago barn, he is not known to be a relation of the woman who owned a cow that was purported to have burned down the Windy City.)

 

 

Adam’s “other” gig: The Nevada Libertarian Party Presents: The Battleborn Podcast

Co-hosted by fellow Nevadan Randy Sadac, the LPNV’s Battleborn podcast features commentary about goings on in Nevada from a liberty perspective. Here you can find some great interviews with people doing great things to advance liberty in the state of Nevada, and beyond.

Don’t miss their great interview with economist (and libertarian superhero) Bob Murphy!

Randy and Adam Interview Robert Murphy

 

Brian’s empire of great content: BrianDOLeary.com

Where you’ll find all of the interesting things Brian is up to, including:

• The O’Leary Review – Writing and associated Podcast
• The Brian D. O’Leary Show
• Who Is In The Tom Woods World?
• and more.

While you’re there, don’t forget to buy Brian a coffee. He’ll greatly appreciate it, especially a darker roast.

 

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