Geraldine DeRuiter, a James Beard award-winning writer and author, discusses her experience with a negative review of her book and how her community turned it around to make it a bestseller.

She shares the personal attacks she faced in the review and the emotional toll it took on her. Despite the hurtful beginning, her community's support and the negative review actually helped boost the book's sales.

Geraldine also reflects on her ambition as a child and the importance of perseverance and authenticity in her writing journey. Geraldine shares her experience of how her blog gained traction and how she navigated rejection in her writing career. She emphasizes the importance of putting yourself out there and not being afraid of rejection. She also discusses the fear of stating what you want and offers advice for aspiring writers and creators.

Geraldine encourages setting audacious rejection goals and aiming high. She shares personal anecdotes and insights on overcoming the fear of rejection and pursuing your dreams.

For anyone listening, you can order a copy of If You Can't Take the Heat: Tales of Food, Feminism, and Fury on Amazon.

I will also be giving away a copy to a listener who subscribes and reviews the podcast. You just need to email screenshots to media@hustlingwriters.com.

To find out more about Geraldine and read her award-winning blog, visit: https://www.everywhereist.com/about/ 

Follow Geraldine on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/TheEverywhereist/ 

If you are looking for a book writing coach to get your manuscript out there, I recommend working with:

Lindy Pfeil, Author and Memoir Coach, website: lindypfeil.com

Emily Tamayo Maher, Author & bestselling author in women's spirituality, website: meaningmethod.com.

Tracy Stewart, book mentor and developmental editor, author, and ghostwriter, website: freshlypress.com

Javacia Harris Bowser, host of a community for female writers, bloggers, and entrepreneurs, website: seejanewritebham.com

If you are interested in exploring hybrid publishing, I highly recommend getting in touch with Nick Courtright, CEO of atmospherepress.com

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

01:33 The Negative Review and Emotional Impact

16:00 Childhood Ambition and Writing Journey

29:58 Traffic Increase and the Power of Authenticity

33:50 Gaining Traction and Overcoming Rejection

36:06 Transitioning from Anonymity to Recognition

37:29 The Impact of Viral Success

38:24 The Condensing Timeframe of Success

40:19 Dealing with Rejection in Personal Life

43:19 Protecting Oneself from Rejection

46:21 The Fear of Stating What You Want

48:06 External Motivation and Accountability

50:18 The Love of Having Written

52:58 The Fear of Rejection vs. Actual Rejection

54:24 Setting Audacious Rejection Goals

59:06 Reaching Out to Influential People

In exclusive interviews, society's bestselling authors share how they navigated the toughest periods of their personal and professional lives, and how this shaped the success they now experience today.

You probably know your favorite authors’ success stories. After all, you chose to read their books because of their expertise, wisdom, and great storytelling skills. But do you know their rejection story? I am not talking about the glossed-over “rags to riches” story that you may hear briefly mentioned in a press interview. I’m talking about hearing — directly from them — what it was like in the thick of it.

My mission with this podcast is to humanize the stories of some of society’s most successful thought leaders. Grab a cup of tea, plug your headphones in, and take a listen. Who knows? You might just see yourself in their stories.

Gay Hendricks shares his personal journey of transformation and finding his zone of genius. He discusses how a moment of clarity after falling on the ice led him to discover a state of pure consciousness.

Gay emphasizes the importance of facing and accepting our emotions and experiences in order to transform our lives. He also highlights the role of meditation in connecting with our true selves and finding inner peace.

In this part of the conversation, Gay discusses the importance of self-acceptance and making new choices to create positive change.

He introduces the FAC method. Gay also shares his experience with the upper limit problem, where he encountered self-sabotage after experiencing success. He emphasizes the power of wonder and asking questions to uncover limiting beliefs. Gay offers advice for aspiring writers, highlighting the importance of voicing ambitions and taking action.

For anyone listening, you can order a copy of Your Big Leap Year, as well as Gay’s other books, on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Your-Big-Leap-Year-Next-Level/dp/1250292794

I will also be giving away a copy to a listener who subscribes and reviews the podcast. You just need to email screenshots to media@hustlingwriters.com.

To find out more about Gay Hendricks, his work and his books, visit: https://hendricks.com/ 

Follow Gay on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hendricks.gay/

A special thanks to our partners, who I highly recommend getting in touch with.

If you are looking for a book writing coach to get your manuscript out there, I recommend working with:

Lindy Pfeil, Author and Memoir Coach, website: lindypfeil.com

Emily Tamayo Maher, Author & bestselling author in women’s spirituality, website: meaningmethod.com.

Tracy Stewart, book mentor and developmental editor, author, and ghostwriter, website: freshlypress.com

Javacia Harris Bowser, host of a community for female writers, bloggers, and entrepreneurs, website: seejanewritebham.com

If you are interested in exploring hybrid publishing, I highly recommend getting in touch with Nick Courtright, CEO of atmospherepress.com

If you’re looking for a brain / neuro trainer, check out Paula Echeverri, website: neuromomceo.com

Chapters 

00:00 Gay Hendrick’s Journey

05:54 A Moment of Clarity

11:52 Facing and Accepting Emotions

18:34 Meditation and Inner Peace

24:52 Committing to Your Gifts

30:14 Embracing Unpleasant Experiences

32:22 Self-Acceptance and Making New Choices

36:00 The Upper Limit Problem

46:02 The Role of Wonder and Asking Questions

51:21 Advice for Aspiring Writers

Nokuhle Kumalo shares her journey of feeling rejected by her accounting career and making the decision to leave and pursue her own business.

She discusses the challenges and doubts she faced along the way, as well as the support she received from her community. Nokuhle emphasizes the importance of finding a career that aligns with your personality and values, as well as the satisfaction that comes from living according to your purpose. She also talks about the audacious confidence she has always had and how it has helped her go after what she wants in life.

In this conversation, Nokuhle discusses her confidence in achieving her goals and the support she received from her father.

She also talks about the challenges she faced as a Black woman in corporate South Africa and the need to constantly prove herself, sharing her experiences of code-switching and the importance of language and cultural identity. 

Nokuhle introduces her book, 'Get Ready With Me Work Edition,' which serves as a survival guide for young professionals in the workplace.

Nokuhle shares her experience of self-publishing, including the challenges of finding a printer and obtaining a barcode (who would have guessed!). Despite not actively marketing her book, she has had success in sales and has even had bulk sales from corporate clients. Nokuhle also reveals her plans to write a second book aimed at high school students.

For anyone listening, you can order a copy of Get Ready With Me Work Edition, on the Lomaku website, here: https://8266e8-3.myshopify.com/products/grwm-work-edition-book-get-ready-with-me-navigating-corporate-as-an-adult. 

I will also be giving away a copy to a listener who subscribes and reviews the podcast. You just need to email screenshots to media@hustlingwriters.com.

Subscribe to Nokuhle's popular Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeRUdQBuR1zX7uhVIV6oRkQ 
Follow Nokuhle on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nokuhle_kumalo/

If you are looking for a book writing coach to get your manuscript out there, I recommend working with:

Lindy Pfeil, Author and Memoir Coach, website: lindypfeil.com

Emily Tamayo Maher, Author & bestselling author in women’s spirituality, website: meaningmethod.com.

Tracy Stewart, book mentor and developmental editor, author, and ghostwriter, website: freshlypress.com

Javacia Harris Bowser, host of a community for female writers, bloggers, and entrepreneurs, website: seejanewritebham.com

If you are interested in exploring hybrid publishing, I highly recommend getting in touch with Nick Courtright, CEO of atmospherepress.com

If you’re looking for a brain / neuro trainer, check out Paula Echeverri, website: neuromomceo.com

Freelance writers, you are going to want to get your hands on Amber Perry's guide, 250+ nonfiction publications that pay, so people can start pitching right away. Here's the link:https://amber-petty.newzenler.com/f/250-places-that-pay-for-your-writing-forever35

00:00 Introduction and Background

01:29 Feeling Rejected in the Accounting Field

04:30 Leaving Corporate and Facing Backlash

06:57 Dealing with Self-Doubt and Setting Targets

10:08 The Power of Speaking Your Goals into Existence

11:27 Finding Alignment in Your Career and Personal Values

27:24 Confidence and Support: The Key to Achieving Goals

35:41 Challenges Faced by Black Women in Corporate South Africa

39:28 The Experience of Code-Switching

40:25 The Importance of Language and Cultural Identity

44:23 Introducing 'Get Ready With Me Work Edition': A Guide for Young Professionals

55:18 The Journey of a Self-Published Author

56:34 Building Relationships and Leveraging Social Media for Book Sales

58:30 The Power of Reviews and Feedback

01:04:43 Partnering with Corporations for Sales and Speaking Engagements

01:13:44 Writing for a Specific Audience: High School Students

Neil Patel, a renowned marketer and author, shares his insights on rejection and success. He emphasizes the importance of not letting rejection sting and the need to embrace rejection as a part of life and business. Neil discusses his own experiences with rejection and how he learned to be patient and persistent.

He also talks about the mindset of not having much to lose, which allowed him to take risks and pursue his dreams. Neil shares his thoughts on long-term planning, adapting to change, and the importance of community and support in overcoming rejection. He also highlights the value of taking action and not overthinking, as well as the need to own your dreams and not just rent them. Neil provides advice on navigating disagreements and criticism, and he suggests pitching Ray Dalio as a potential guest for the podcast.

For anyone listening, you can order a copy of Hustle: The Power to Charge Your Life with Money, Meaning, and Momentum, as well as Neil’s other books, on Amazon or at your local bookstore.Link: https://www.amazon.com/Hustle-Power-Charge-Meaning-Momentum/dp/1623367166 

I will also be giving away a copy to a listener who subscribes and reviews the podcast. You just need to email screenshots to media@hustlingwriters.com.

To find out more about Neil Patel, his courses and books, visit: https://neilpatel.com/  
Follow Neil on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/neilpatel/

A special thank you to our distribution partners!

Lindy Pfeil, Author and Memoir Coach, website: lindypfeil.com

Emily Tamayo Maher, Author & bestselling author in women’s spirituality, website: meaningmethod.com.

Tracy Stewart, book mentor and developmental editor, author, and ghostwriter, website: freshlypress.com

Javacia Harris Bowser, host of a community for female writers, bloggers, and entrepreneurs, website: seejanewritebham.com

If you are interested in exploring hybrid publishing, I highly recommend getting in touch with Nick Courtright, CEO of atmospherepress.com

If you’re looking for a brain / neuro trainer, check out Paula Echeverri, website: neuromomceo.com

Freelance writers, you are going to want to get your hands on Amber Perry’s guide, 250+ nonfiction publications that pay, so people can start pitching right away. Here’s the link:⁠ https://amber-petty.newzenler.com/f/250-places-that-pay-for-your-writing-forever35

00:00 Introduction and Neil Patel's Background

02:03 Embracing Rejection and Persistence

09:35 Dealing with Rejection and Overcoming Challenges

11:24 Creating Your Own Luck and Trying Different Paths

13:13 Learning from Mistakes and Finding Your Path

14:16 The Value of Big Markets and Broad Focus

19:47 Taking Action and Owning Your Dreams

24:17 Navigating Disagreements and Criticism

26:16 Pitching Tips: Getting a Warm Introduction

This episode originally aired on ADHD-ish hosted by Diann Wingert. Episode link here: https://www.diannwingertcoaching.com/blog/risk-rejection-resilience 

In this conversation, Alice Draper is interviewed by Diann Wingert, the host of the ADHD-ish podcast. Together, they discuss the complex nature of rejection, its historical roots in human survival, and the psychological impacts it has on individuals, particularly those with ADHD and marginalized identities. The dialogue explores the science behind rejection sensitivity, cultural conditioning, and a gendered perspectives on failure. 

Check out: The ADHD-ish Podcast. This podcast alternates between straight-shooting solo episodes, guest interviews with other successful female solopreneurs, and client success stories of women who have worked with Diann to transform their businesses and mindset.

Connect with Diann Wingert:

Podcast: https://www.diannwingertcoaching.com/podcast 

Free guide on Mastering Your Entrepreneurial ADHD: https://diann-wingert-coaching.kit.com/mastering-your-entrepreneurial-adhd 

Diann’s LinkedIn newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7018282741351817216/?displayConfirmation=true 

Chapters:

04:36 The Science Behind Why Rejection Is Hard

08:00 Exploring the Depths of Rejection

05:53 The Science Behind Rejection Sensitivity

09:12 Marginalization and Its Impact on Rejection

11:06 Cultural Conditioning and Gendered Perspectives

15:00 Building Rejection Resilience: Strategies and Insights

17:54 Community Support in Overcoming Rejection

21:13 Navigating Personal Rejections and Emotional Responses

24:08 How To Handle Personal Rejections

27:13 Practicing Perspective-Taking When Dealing with Rejection

35:18 Surprising Insights About Success and Rejection

39:01 The Weight of Expectation and Rejection

41:00 Making Big Rejection Goals By Finding Your Intention

46:35 The Secret To Unstoppable Rejection Resilience

47:00 Conclusion And Closing Thoughts

In this episode, Alice Draper reflects on her journey through the first 11 episodes of her podcast, focusing on the theme of rejection and personal growth. She shares her own experiences with rejection, trauma, and caregiving, emphasizing how these challenges have shaped her resilience and identity. The conversation explores the duality of rejection and success, highlighting that both can coexist and lead to personal transformation. Alice encourages listeners to embrace their rejection stories as sources of strength and motivation for growth.

takeaways

• Rejection is a universal experience that everyone faces.
• Using rejection as a growth tool can lead to personal fulfillment.
• Personal trauma can significantly impact one's resilience and identity.
• Caregiving can shift one's sense of self and purpose.
• Finding support is crucial in navigating difficult life changes.
• Transformation often comes from facing adversity head-on.
• Rejection can serve as a catalyst for positive change.
• Confidence is built through action, not just belief.
• Both rejection and success can coexist in our journeys.
• Embracing our stories of rejection can fuel our ambitions.

Tina Wells shares her rejection story and the pivotal moment in her life when she felt rejected. She talks about the changes in the agency world and how she had to confront the rejection and make a decision. Tina emphasizes the importance of taking a pause and becoming present with oneself to navigate through rejection.

For anyone listening, you can order a copy of The Elevation Approach: Harness the Power of Work-Life Harmony to Unlock Your Creativity, Cultivate Joy, and Reach Your Biggest Goals on Amazon: https://a.co/d/boRRTDv

To find out more about Tina Wells, her books, services and courses, visit: https://tinawells.com/

Follow Tina on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tinawells/

I will also be giving away a copy of Tina’s latest book to a listener who subscribes and reviews the podcast. You just need to email screenshots to media@hustlingwriters.com.

Distribution Partners:

A special thanks to our partners, who I highly recommend getting in touch with.

If you are interested in exploring hybrid publishing, I highly recommend getting in touch with Nick Courtright, CEO of atmospherepress.com

Special shout out to Eva Langston. Eva created a writing resources newsletter with the goal of giving the advice, encouragement, and resources she wished she’d had at various stages in her writing career. Her Substack newsletter for writers on the journey to publication now has over 4,500 subscribers.  Subscribe here: https://evalangston.substack.com/

If you are looking for a book writing coach to get your manuscript out there, I recommend working with:
Lindy Pfeil, Author and Memoir Coach, website: lindypfeil.com

Emily Tamayo Maher, Author & bestselling author in women’s spirituality, website: meaningmethod.com.

Tracy Stewart, book mentor and developmental editor, author, and ghostwriter, website: freshlypress.com

Javacia Harris Bowser, host of a community for female writers, bloggers, and entrepreneurs, website: seejanewritebham.com

If you’re looking for a brain / neuro trainer, check out Paula Echeverri, website: neuromomceo.com

Freelance writers, you are going to want to get your hands on Amber Perry’s guide, 250+ nonfiction publications that pay, so people can start pitching right away.

Chapters

• 00:00 Confronting Rejection and Embracing Change
• 07:05 The Power of Work-Life Harmony
• 19:09 Finding Inspiration and Supportive Communities
• 24:55 Finding Your Community
• 29:10 The Value of ‘Friend-tors’
• 31:47 Strategic Networking: Mentors vs. Sponsors
• 41:22 Effective Communication and Presentation
• 45:13 Turning Rejections into Opportunities

In this episode of My Rejection Story, Kimberly Brown shares her personal journey of rejection and redirection in her career. She discusses the emotional impact of job rejections, the importance of vulnerability, and how to navigate the job market effectively. Kimberly emphasizes the significance of asking questions during interviews and the need for self-coaching in professional development. She also opens up about her experience as an author, the challenges of promoting her book, and the importance of community support. The conversation concludes with practical advice for growing a podcast and engaging with an audience.

Takeaways:

• Rejection can lead to unexpected opportunities.
• It's essential to ask questions during the interview process.
• Vulnerability is a crucial part of career transitions.
• Building a community can provide support during tough times.
• Self-coaching is vital for personal and professional growth.
• Aligning with your core values is key to job satisfaction.
• The pain of regret is often worse than the pain of trying something new.
• Creating engaging content can help grow your audience.
• It's important to understand what makes your work unique.
• Being authentic can help you connect with your audience.

For anyone listening, you can order a copy of Next Move, Best Move, on Amazon: https://a.co/d/74iDP5I 

I will also be giving away a copy to a listener who subscribes and reviews the podcast. You just need to email screenshots to media@hustlingwriters.com.

To find out more about Kimberly Brown, her book and company, Brown Leadership, visit: https://www.brownleadership.com/ 

Follow Kimberly on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kimberlybonline/ 

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Rejection and Redirection

04:22 Kimberly's Job Rejection Story

07:22 The Impact of Rejection on Career Paths

10:23 Navigating the Job Market and Interviews

13:14 The Importance of Asking Questions in Interviews

16:12 Vulnerability in Professional Growth

19:27 The Journey of Writing and Promoting a Book

21:58 Building a Community Around Your Work

24:51 The Process of Self-Coaching and Leadership Development

28:04 The Challenges of Being Visible and Authentic

31:47 Advice for Growing a Podcast

34:53 Conclusion and Future Aspirations

Distribution Partners:A special thanks to our partners, who I highly recommend getting in touch with.
If you are looking for a book writing coach to get your manuscript out there, I recommend working with:
Lindy Pfeil, Author and Memoir Coach, website: lindypfeil.com
Emily Tamayo Maher, Author & bestselling author in women’s spirituality, website: meaningmethod.com.
Tracy Stewart, book mentor and developmental editor, author, and ghostwriter, website: freshlypress.com
Javacia Harris Bowser, host of a community for female writers, bloggers, and entrepreneurs, website: seejanewritebham.com
If you are interested in exploring hybrid publishing, I highly recommend getting in touch with Nick Courtright, CEO of atmospherepress.com
If you’re looking for a brain / neuro trainer, check out Paula Echeverri, website: neuromomceo.com
Freelance writers, you are going to want to get your hands on Amber Perry’s guide, 250+ nonfiction publications that pay, so people can start pitching right away. Here’s the link:
If you are interested in exploring hybrid publishing, I highly recommend getting in touch with Nick Courtright, CEO of atmospherepress.com

In this episode of My Rejection Story, host Alice Draper speaks with therapist and author Jason VanRuler about the complexities of rejection, particularly in relationships. They discuss the importance of rewriting personal narratives, the necessity of grieving losses, and the journey towards authenticity. Jason shares his experiences with rejection and how they shaped his path to becoming a thought leader in the mental health space. The conversation emphasizes the value of community, the challenge of faulty beliefs, and the growth that comes from embracing rejection.

Takeaways:

• You can rewrite your story and make it true.
• Grieving a future is a different kind of grief.
• Growth comes from feeling and grieving loss.
• It's better to share scars than wounds.
• You need a purpose greater than yourself to take risks.
• Simplicity scales, complexity fails.
• Practice saying no to build confidence.
• Surround yourself with people who uplift you.
• Rejection can prompt personal growth.
• Authenticity is key in relationships.

For anyone listening, you can order a copy of Get Past Your Past on Amazon, here: https://a.co/d/gIGMvYQ 

I will also be giving away a copy to a listener who subscribes and reviews the podcast. You just need to email screenshots to media@hustlingwriters.com.

To find out more about Jason VanRuler and his work, visit: https://www.jasonvr.com/ 

Follow Jason on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jason.vanruler/ 

Elizabeth Fremantle shares her experiences of rejection, starting with being expelled from school at a young age. She felt unjustly labeled as a bad influence and struggled to overcome the rejection. However, her desire to be a writer motivated her to go back to university as a mature student and pursue her passion. 

Elizabeth emphasizes the importance of finding a way back from early rejection and not letting it define one's future. She also discusses the impact of rejection on her writing career, including the rejection of multiple novels before finding success with her fourth book. Elizabeth reflects on the constant drive to achieve more and the role of luck and timing in her success. In this conversation, Ellizabeth discusses her journey as a writer, including the process of getting her book, Queen's Gambit, published and the challenges of being a visible author. 

She also talks about the experience of having her book adapted into a film and the importance of letting go of creative control. Elizabeth emphasizes the need to not take rejection personally and to understand that external factors can influence the success of a book. She shares her ongoing goals and challenges, including writing a screenplay. 

For anyone listening, you can order a copy of Firebrand, as well as Elizabeth’s other books, on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Firebrand-Novel-Elizabeth-Fremantle/dp/1668005360 

I will also be giving away a copy to a listener who subscribes and reviews the podcast. You just need to email screenshots to media@hustlingwriters.com.

To find out more about Elizabeth Freemantle and her books, visit: http://www.elizabethfremantle.com/  

Follow Elizabeth on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lizfremantle/ 

A special thanks to our partners, who I highly recommend getting in touch with.

f you are looking for a book writing coach to get your manuscript out there, I recommend working with:

Lindy Pfeil, Author and Memoir Coach, website: lindypfeil.com

Emily Tamayo Maher, Author & bestselling author in women’s spirituality, website: meaningmethod.com.

Tracy Stewart, book mentor and developmental editor, author, and ghostwriter, website: freshlypress.com

Javacia Harris Bowser, host of a community for female writers, bloggers, and entrepreneurs, website: seejanewritebham.com

If you are interested in exploring hybrid publishing, I highly recommend getting in touch with Nick Courtright, CEO of atmospherepress.com

If you’re looking for a brain / neuro trainer, check out Paula Echeverri, website: neuromomceo.com

Freelance writers, you are going to want to get your hands on Amber Perry’s guide, 250+ nonfiction publications that pay, so people can start pitching right away. Here’s the link:

If you are interested in exploring hybrid publishing, I highly recommend getting in touch with Nick Courtright, CEO of atmospherepress.com

Chapters

00:00 Early Rejection and Expulsion from School

02:32 Finding a Way Back from Rejection

12:07 The Role of Luck and Timing in Success

26:55 The Constant Drive to Achieve More

34:24 Navigating Rejection and Visibility as a Writer

38:23 The Challenges and Rewards of Book-to-Film Adaptation

44:37 Letting Go of Creative Control

50:06 The Importance of Continuous Learning and Setting New Challenges

Jill Mansell shares her journey as a writer, from her early experiences with rejection to becoming a bestselling author. She talks about the challenges of finding an agent and receiving rejections from publishers. Despite the setbacks, she persevered and found success with her unique style of writing. 

Jill discusses the fear and anxiety she still feels with each new book, as well as the joy of connecting with readers and making a positive impact on their lives. In this conversation, Jill discusses the importance of constructive feedback and incorporating diverse perspectives into her writing. She shares how she creates rich and colourful characters by drawing inspiration from people she knows and combining different aspects of their personalities. Jill also talks about her writing process, including her preference for writing with fountain pens and her daily word count goals. 

She explains why she chooses not to include explicit sex scenes in her romance novels, the challenges of coming up with new ideas after writing 37 books, and the desire to have her books adapted into movies or TV series.

For anyone listening, you can order a copy of Promise Me, as well as Jill’s other books, on Amazon: https://amzn.eu/d/g83pZ26 

I will also be giving away a copy to a listener who subscribes and reviews the podcast. You just need to email screenshots to media@hustlingwriters.com.

To find out more about Jill Mansell and her books, visit: https://jillmansell.co.uk/ 
Follow Jill on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jillmansell/

A special thanks to our partners, who I highly recommend getting in touch with. If you are looking for a book writing coach to get your manuscript out there, I recommend working with: Lindy Pfeil, Author and Memoir Coach, website: lindypfeil.com 

Emily Tamayo Maher, Author & bestselling author in women’s spirituality, website: meaningmethod.com.

 Tracy Stewart, book mentor and developmental editor, author, and ghostwriter, website: freshlypress.com

 Javacia Harris Bowser, host of a community for female writers, bloggers, and entrepreneurs, website: seejanewritebham.com

 Freelance writers, you are going to want to get your hands on Amber Perry’s guide, 250+ nonfiction publications that pay, so people can start pitching right away. Here’s the link:⁠https://amber-petty.newzenler.com/f/250-places-that-pay-for-your-writing-forever35

 If you are interested in exploring hybrid publishing, I highly recommend getting in touch with Nick Courtright, CEO of atmospherepress.com

If you’re looking for a brain / neuro trainer, check out Paula Echeverri, website: neuromomceo.com

Chapters:

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Jill's Early Writing Experience

02:25 Jill's Journey from Rejection to Success

10:23 Transitioning from a Full-Time Job to a Full-Time Novelist

17:16 Dealing with Rejections from Publishers

21:55 Life Changes After Finding Success with Hachette

25:10 Navigating Fear and Anxiety in the Writing Process

28:19 The Power of Positive Impact on Readers' Lives

29:02 The Power of Constructive Feedback in Writing

31:03 Incorporating Reader Suggestions into Writing

33:04 Creating Rich and Colorful Characters

36:33 Drawing Inspiration from Personal Experiences

37:00 Writing Process and Daily Word Count Goals

38:21 Writing with Fountain Pens: A Source of Joy and Inspiration

41:49 The Story of the Lost First Manuscript

43:35 The Importance of a Writing Community

48:03 Finding Inspiration in Everyday Life

51:43 Challenges of Generating New Ideas

55:42 The Desire for Book Adaptations

Haley Jakobson, a writer and playwright, discusses her relationship with rejection and the journey to publishing her debut novel, 'Old Enough'. She shares her fear of rejection and the mantra of choosing herself, which worked until she had to face the vulnerability of publishing a book. Haley talks about the 40+ rejections she received and the tools she developed to navigate rejection, including zooming out and realizing that her career is not defined by one project, leaning on her community for support, and finding joy in other aspects of her life. She also discusses the changes in her life since the book launch and the responsibility she feels to educate and advocate for her audience. 

Haley explores the concept of vulnerable storytelling and the challenges of being unpolished and messy in her writing. She shares that while her book 'Old Enough' is inspired by her own experiences, the protagonist is a separate character with her own journey. In this conversation, Haley Jakobson discusses her journey of healing and reclaiming her innocence after experiencing assault as a teenager. She shares how she grew into innocence and embraced her silliness and vulnerability. Haley also talks about her writing process and the importance of staying true to her values in navigating the capitalist nature of the publishing industry. She offers insights into manifestation and the power of community in achieving her goals.

For anyone listening, you can order a copy of Old Enough: A Novel on Amazon.

I will also be giving away a copy to a listener who subscribes and reviews the podcast. You just need to email screenshots to media@hustlingwriters.com.

To find out more about Haley Jakobson and her writing, visit: https://www.haleyjakobson.com/ 

Follow Hayley on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/haleyjakobson/ 

A special thanks to our partners, who I highly recommend getting in touch with.

If you are looking for a book writing coach to get your manuscript out there, I recommend working with:

Lindy Pfeil, Author and Memoir Coach, website: lindypfeil.com

Emily Tamayo Maher, Author & bestselling author in women’s spirituality, website: meaningmethod.com.

Tracy Stewart, book mentor and developmental editor, author, and ghostwriter, website: freshlypress.com

Javacia Harris Bowser, host of a community for female writers, bloggers, and entrepreneurs, website: seejanewritebham.com

Freelance writers, you are going to want to get your hands on Amber Perry’s guide, 250+ nonfiction publications that pay, so people can start pitching right away. Here’s the link:⁠https://amber-petty.newzenler.com/f/250-places-that-pay-for-your-writing-forever35

If you are interested in exploring hybrid publishing, I highly recommend getting in touch with Nick Courtright, CEO of atmospherepress.com

If you’re looking for a brain / neuro trainer, check out Paula Echeverri, website: neuromomceo.com

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Hayley Jakobson

00:43 Hayley's Relationship with Rejection

03:03 Navigating Rejection and Choosing Herself

05:22 Developing a Relationship with Rejection

10:17 Life Changes After Publishing a Book

15:28 The Challenges of Being Unfiltered in the Public Spotlight

22:33 Understanding Vulnerable Storytelling

29:38 The Inspiration Behind 'Old Enough'

31:02 Growing into Innocence

36:00 Writing as a Tool for Healing

37:39 Navigating Capitalism and Staying True to Values

51:07 Manifestation and Building a Supportive Community

56:36 Balancing Creativity and Marketing in the Publishing Industry

Paulette Perhach, an award-winning writer and author, shares her experiences with rejection and failure.

She emphasizes the importance of being open and vulnerable as a writer and navigating the challenges that come with it.

She discusses her journey with ADHD and how it has influenced her relationship with rejection.

Paulette also talks about the importance of self-compassion and seeking external help when needed. She shares personal stories of infidelity and how she stays open despite past experiences.

In this conversation, Paulette Perhach discusses the importance of feeling and embracing vulnerability, the power of acceptance, and the journey from victimhood to survivorship. S

he emphasizes the need to tap into our emotions and experiences in order to grow and transform. Paulette also shares insights on negotiation, self-education, and the value of having a vision. She encourages aspiring writers to read, write consistently, and start with small projects before submitting their work.

Paulette's personal story of resilience and growth serves as an inspiration for anyone navigating the challenges of life and pursuing their creative passions.

For anyone listening, you can order a copy of Welcome to the Writer's Life: How to Design Your Writing Craft, Writing Business, Writing Practice, and Reading Practice on Amazon.

To find out more about Paulette Perhach and her writing coaching, retreats and pieces, visit: https://www.pauletteperhach.com/ 

Follow Paulette on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paulettejperhach/

I will also be giving away a copy of Paulette's latest book to a listener who subscribes to the podcast (your entry will count twice if you also review). You just need to email screenshots to media@hustlingwriters.com.

A special thanks to our partners, who I highly recommend getting in touch with.

If you are looking for a book writing coach to get your manuscript out there, I recommend working with:

Lindy Pfeil, Author and Memoir Coach, website: lindypfeil.com

Emily Tamayo Maher, Author & bestselling author in women's spirituality, website: meaningmethod.com. 

Tracy Stewart, book mentor and developmental editor, author, and ghostwriter, website: freshlypress.com 

Javacia Harris Bowser, host of a community for female writers, bloggers, and entrepreneurs, website: seejanewritebham.com 

Freelance writers, you are going to want to get your hands on Amber Perry’s guide, 250+ nonfiction publications that pay, so people can start pitching right away. Here’s the link:⁠https://amber-petty.newzenler.com/f/250-places-that-pay-for-your-writing-forever35 

If you are interested in exploring hybrid publishing, I highly recommend getting in touch with Nick Courtright, CEO of atmospherepress.com

If you're looking for a brain / neuro trainer, check out Paula Echeverri, website: neuromomceo.com

Chapters:

• 00:00 Introduction and Background

• 02:17 Embracing Rejection and Failure

• 06:04 The Power of a Beginner's Mindset

• 10:07 Navigating Rejection and Failure with ADHD

• 24:34 Staying Open and Vulnerable as a Writer

• 29:56 Embracing Vulnerability and Growth

• 30:23 The Power of Acceptance

• 31:31 Negotiation and Self-Education

• 33:18 Having a Vision and Setting Audacious Goals

• 36:33 Starting Small and Building Confidence

• 41:17 Navigating Rejection and Persevering

Why does rejection sometimes feel bigger than the moment itself? Why can a missed text, a declined invitation, or a breakup trigger something that feels far older and deeper than the situation at hand?

In this episode of My Rejection Story, Alice is joined by Dr. Carol Chu-Peralta, clinical psychologist and trauma specialist, to explore the powerful link between rejection and abandonment. Together, they unpack what rejection abandonment really means, how early caregiver dynamics shape our fear of rejection and abandonment, and why abandonment wounds can amplify even small relational disappointments.

Dr. Carol explains the key difference between rejection and abandonment: rejection is often situational and time-limited, while abandonment tends to be chronic, relational, and rooted in early attachment experiences. When someone carries rejection abandonment issues from childhood, everyday rejection can feel like proof of being fundamentally unworthy. What might objectively be a mismatch can subjectively register as rejection abandonment betrayal injustice trauma.

Throughout the conversation, they explore how fear of rejection abandonment issues can develop into anxiety rejection abandonment patterns in adulthood—such as overanalyzing relationships, keeping people at arm’s length, or rejecting others first to avoid being left.

They also dive into healing: how to pause before spiraling, how to differentiate between intuition and trauma response, and how gradual exposure, community, and movement can support overcoming rejection and abandonment. Rather than offering quick fixes, this episode offers grounded, practical insight into rejection sensitivity and abandonment—and what it takes to build resilience without shaming yourself.

If you’ve ever wondered what does rejection abandonment mean in real life, why feelings of abandonment and rejection can feel existential, or how rejection and abandonment trauma shape your relationships today, this conversation will help you understand your patterns with more clarity and compassion.

In this episode, they explore:

• The psychological difference between rejection and abandonment—and why it matters

• How fear of rejection and abandonment often stems from early caregiver dynamics

• Why people with rejection abandonment issues may personalize neutral events

• The link between rejection sensitivity and abandonment trauma

• How anxiety around rejection abandonment shows up in adult relationships

• How to pause, label, and reframe negative self-talk loops

• How to tell the difference between red flags and trauma-triggered fear

• Why gradual exposure (not extreme “rejection challenges”) builds real resilience

• The role of community in healing rejection and abandonment trauma

• How bilateral movement and somatic work support trauma processing

This episode is an invitation to see your fear of rejection abandonment not as weakness, but as an adaptive response that once kept you safe. Healing isn’t about eliminating vulnerability—it’s about building capacity to stay present when connection feels risky.

Connect with Dr. Carol Chu-Peralta:

Website: www.centerforresiliency.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/centerforresiliencynj/

Chapters

00:00 What Does Rejection Abandonment Mean?
03:00 The Difference Between Rejection and Abandonment
07:00 How Abandonment Trauma Fuels Fear of Rejection
12:00 Anxiety Rejection Abandonment in Adult Relationships
18:00 Why Rejection Can Feel Like Betrayal or Injustice
24:00 Pausing Before You Personalize
31:00 Intuition or Trauma Response? How to Tell the Difference
39:00 Exposure Therapy and Building Rejection Resilience
47:00 Loneliness, Isolation, and the Fear of Being Seen
53:00 Movement, Bilateral Processing, and Healing Trauma
01:00:00 Final Thoughts: Overcoming Rejection and Abandonment Without Shaming Yourself

Why does heartbreak hurt so much? According to psychologist and bestselling author Guy Winch, it’s not just emotional—it’s biological. Heartbreak hijacks your brain like an addiction, making it one of the most painful experiences a person can endure. In this episode, Guy breaks down the science of heartbreak, the biggest mistakes people make when trying to move on, and why heartbreak needs a mourning ritual—just like grief. If you’ve ever struggled to let go, this episode is for you.

Website:

⁠https://www.guywinch.com⁠

Guy’s TED Talks:

⁠https://www.ted.com/speakers/guy_winch⁠

Guy’s Books:

📕How to Fix a Broken Heart

⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1501120123⁠

📕Emotional First Aid: Healing Rejection, Guilt, Failure, and Other Everyday Hurts

⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/0142181072⁠

📕The Squeaky Wheel: Complaining the Right Way to Get Results, Improve Your Relationships, and Enhance Self-Esteem

⁠https://www.amazon.com/The-Squeaky-Wheel-Guy-Winch-Ph-D-audiobook/dp/B004INR2VU/⁠

Listen to Guy’s PodcastDear Therapists:

⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-therapists-with-lori-gottlieb-and-guy-winch/id1523340696⁠

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Guy Winch

03:32 Heartbreak as the Ultimate Rejection

09:45 Why Heartbreak Feels Like Drug Withdrawal

14:20 The Science Behind Rejection and Emotional Pain

19:05 The Mistakes People Make When Healing from Heartbreak

24:40 Why Social Media Stalking Makes It Worse

30:15 The Importance of a Mourning Ritual for Heartbreak

37:00 How to Stop Idealizing Your Ex

42:18 Replacement Strategies—The Healthy Way to Move On

48:30 Rebuilding Rejection Resilience and Dating Again

🎧 Listen to the full episode to learn how to heal a broken heart and move forward with resilience!

In this episode, high-conflict divorce strategist and advocate Lisa Johnson joins Alice to unpack one of the most overwhelming and destabilizing experiences anyone can face: navigating divorce with a narcissist. Whether you're trying to divorce a narcissistic husband, divorce a narcissist wife, or find your footing after divorce after abusive marriage, Lisa offers clarity that is both deeply validating and strategically life-saving.

Lisa’s story is astonishing: a 20-year relationship built on hidden lives and deception, a $100,000 divorce in year one, and nearly a decade of court battles where she eventually represented herself more than 100 times. Her testimony even helped pass Jennifer’s Law, expanding Connecticut’s legal definition of domestic violence to include coercive control.

If you’ve ever wondered what actually happens when you divorce a narcissist, why a narcissist during divorce behaves in ways that defy logic, or how to survive divorce mediation with a narcissist who lies, gaslights, and retaliates, this episode will finally make the chaos make sense.

Lisa walks Alice through:

• The early grooming patterns that pull intelligent, grounded people into unhealthy bonds

• Why those coming from religious environments face a unique layer of shame — especially in Christian divorce narcissist situations where community pressure insists you “stay no matter what”

• How coercive control erodes your authority, self-trust, and sense of reality

• What to expect in a divorce trial with a narcissis

• The psychological fallout of emotional abuse divorce, including the self-blame, shock, and confusion that linger long after the separation

• How to protect your children if you must divorce a narcissist with kids or divorce an abuser with kids,

• What to do if you’ve ended up with a divorce attorney narcissist who escalates conflict instead of reducing it

Lisa also reveals the hidden truth about high-conflict separation: the moment you leave is statistically the most dangerous.

She offers a grounded path forward for anyone attempting to divorce a narcissist husband, divorce a narcissist wife, or rebuild themselves after decades of coercive control. She explains why you must be strategic—not emotional—and why the goal is not to “win,” but to get out with your sanity and safety intact.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating divorce after abusive marriage, preparing for divorcing an abusive husband, or trying to understand how to make it out of a high-conflict situation with clarity, protection, and a plan.

Resources & Links

🌐 Find Lisa Johnson: https://beentheregotout.com
📘 Been There, Got Out: Toxic Relationships, High Conflict Divorce and How to Stay Sane Under Insane Circumstances
📘 Been There, Got Out: When Your Ex Turns the Kids Against You
🧠 Legal Abuse Support Group, Courses & Strategic Communication Training
📸 Instagram: @been_there_got_out

Chapters:

00:00 Lisa’s Story: A 20-Year Marriage Built on Secrets

02:00 How Smart People End Up in Abusive Dynamics

05:30 Coercive Control, Grooming & Denial

08:10 Faith Communities & Christian Divorce Narcissist Pressures

11:30 Emotional Abuse Divorce: The Invisible Damage

15:00 When You Divorce a Narcissist: Why Everything Escalates

18:40 Divorce a Narcissistic Husband / Divorce a Narcissist Wife

22:00 Narcissist Divorce Strategy: Money, Kids, Court

25:20 Divorce Mediation With a Narcissist: What Actually Works

28:00 Divorce an Abuser With Kids: Safety, Threats & Manipulation

31:10 Divorce a Narcissist With Kids: Protecting Them From Loyalty Warfare

34:00 When Your Divorce Attorney Narcissist Makes Things Worse

38:00 Divorce Trial With a Narcissist: Reality vs Fantasy

41:40 Building Your Team (Therapist, DV Center, Strategist, Attorney)

45:10 Leaving Safely: Exit Planning & Community Resources

48:00 Negotiating Without Feeding Their Ego or Rage

51:00 Divorce After Abusive Marriage: Rebuilding Yourself

55:00 Lisa’s Resources for Anyone in High-Conflict Divorce

In this episode, human relations professor and author Dr. Sterlin Mosley joins Alice to break down one of the most confusing and destabilizing experiences anyone can face: what happens when you reject a narcissist — romantically, sexually, emotionally, or otherwise.

If you’ve ever wondered how to reject a narcissist safely, what narcissists do when you reject them, or why even highly intelligent people end up trapped in cycles of love bombing, self-doubt, and psychological whiplash, this conversation is going to hit with startling clarity.

Sterlin opens with a statistic that flips the entire narrative on its head: while official numbers say 1–2% of people have Narcissistic Personality Disorder, the real number of people with significant narcissistic traits is likely closer to 8–10%. From there, he explains why NPD is so often undiagnosed, how narcissists take rejection, and why denial (“I’m not a narcissist!”) is often the most predictable response.

Alice and Sterlin go deep into the relational fallout of setting boundaries — including when you reject a narcissist hoover and they attempt to pull you back, when you reject a narcissist sexually, and why narcissists often escalate, punish, or retaliate when their supply is cut off. Sterlin also breaks down the neurology behind the love bombing narcissist meaning — why it feels euphoric, addictive, and impossible to leave — and what to do when you're involved with a love bombing narcissist husband, partner, parent, or friend.

For listeners dealing with covert narcissists, Sterlin explains why covert personalities are harder to identify, how they use vulnerability as manipulation, and how to reject a covert narcissist without getting caught in the guilt–shame–blame cycle.

Most importantly, Sterlin offers grounded, non-sensationalized guidance on the best way to reject a narcissist, the emotional withdrawal that follows, and how to rebuild honesty, clarity, and safety in your own body again.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone in a confusing relationship, navigating the aftermath of narcissistic rejection, or trying to understand why even the strongest people can get trapped in dynamics that erode their confidence, intuition, and well-being. It’s for anyone who’s ever wondered: If you reject a narcissist, what happens next — and how do you protect yourself in the process?

Resources & Links

🌐 Explore Dr. Sterlin Mosley’s work at http://sterlinmosley.com/
📚 Read Center of the Universe: https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/center-of-the-universe-9781538186435/
📰 Subscribe to Sterlin’s Substack for deeper case studies and essays on narcissism: https://substack.com/@sterlinmosley

Chapters

00:00 Why So Many Narcissists Go Undiagnosed
02:00 What Happens When You Reject a Narcissist
05:00 Do Narcissists Deny Being a Narcissist?
08:20 Why the DSM Gets Narcissism Wrong
11:40 How Narcissists Take Rejection in Relationships
14:00 The Reality of Rejecting a Covert Narcissist
18:10 “Love Bombing” Explained — Neurology, Addiction & Fantasy
22:30 When You Reject a Narcissist Sexually
25:00 What to Do When You Reject a Narcissist After Betrayal
28:40 The Narcissistic Hoover: Why They Pull You Back
32:00 The Best Way to Reject a Narcissist Safely
35:20 Trauma, Armoring & the Roots of Narcissistic Personality
40:00 What Narcissists Do When You Reject Them (and Why)
45:30 Breadcrumbing, Gaslighting, and DARVO
50:00 Rebuilding Reality After Emotional Manipulation
53:10 Why You Blame Yourself — and Why You Shouldn’t
56:30 Choosing Yourself Again
59:00 Sterlin’s Advice for Anyone Living in Narcissistic Chaos

In this mini replay episode, therapist and bestselling author Whitney Goodman joins Alice for an unflinchingly honest conversation about toxic positivity — what it is, how it shows up, and why so many of us default to forced optimism instead of honest connection.

Whitney Goodman, known online as @sitwithwit and the author behind the viral toxic positivity book, breaks down toxic positivity explained in a way that finally feels human. She talks about how social media has turned everyday life into a public performance, why people feel pressure to appear happy even when they’re not, and how positivity becomes harmful when it’s used to deny the full emotional experience.

Alice and Whitney walk through the central question: what is toxic positivity, really? Whitney explains why phrases like “just stay positive,” “everything happens for a reason,” or “you’ll learn from this one day” often make people feel worse, not better. They discuss how these responses are usually rooted in fear — fear of uncertainty, fear of saying the wrong thing, fear of sitting with someone else’s pain.

The conversation also explores the nuanced difference between toxic positivity vs optimism — and why healthy positivity leaves space for grief, frustration, and disappointment instead of covering them with a motivational bow.

Drawing from stories in Whitney’s book, Alice and Whitney discuss how early childhood messages around “not being sensitive,” “not crying,” or “being strong” can lead adults to suppress emotions, over-function, or rely on cheerfulness as a shield. Whitney explains how toxicity and positivity often intertwine when people are taught that expressing negative feelings is dangerous or shameful.

You’ll hear Whitney break down the science of emotional suppression — how unprocessed feelings often show up in physical symptoms like sleep issues, irritability, or trouble concentrating. She also shares why some people fear joy, why others numb sadness, and why emotional awareness is a skill, not a personality trait.

They also explore the subtle ways people use work, productivity, travel, or “keeping busy” as a socially rewarded form of avoidance, and how to check in with yourself to know if you’re genuinely thriving or simply distracting yourself.

This episode is for anyone who’s ever felt guilty for struggling, pressured to be grateful in the middle of something hard, or frustrated by the “good vibes only” culture online. If you’ve ever wondered why forced optimism feels empty — or why suppressing your feelings only makes them louder — this toxic positivity podcast episode will feel grounding, compassionate, and clarifying.

Resources & Links:

Visit Whitney’s community Calling Home: callinghome.co
Find Whitney on Instagram: @sitwithwit
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sitwithwhit

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@whitneygoodmanlmft

Chapters:

00:00 The Pressure to Look Happy
02:00 Why We Rarely Share the Hard Parts Online
05:45 The Problem with “Everything Happens for a Reason”
08:40 Why Meaning-Making Only Works When It Comes From Within
11:00 Positivity as a Defense Mechanism
13:30 When Optimism Becomes Denial
16:00 The Hidden Cost of Suppressing Emotions
18:40 Using Work or Productivity to Avoid Hard Feelings
21:00 Why Some People Fear Joy
23:30 Our Fear of Uncertainty
26:00 What We Can and Can’t Control
28:00 How to Support Others Without Dismissing Their Pain
30:00 Whitney’s Work, Book, and Where to Find Her

In this episode, novelist and writing instructor Eva Langston joins Alice to break open one of the most under-discussed truths in publishing: sometimes your book dies even after you’ve done everything “right.”

After years in the query trenches, eight manuscripts, and dozens of literary agent queries, Eva finally landed representation — the milestone so many writers dream of. But what happened next wasn’t the success story she expected. Her agented novel went out on submission and became what the industry quietly calls a rejected book. Then the next one died on submission, too.

Eva shares the emotional toll of spending years querying an agent, fighting through inbox silence, and learning the real book deal meaning after rejections from many publishers. She traces the shame spiral that followed — the week she couldn’t eat, couldn’t smile, and seriously wondered if she would ever see her work in print — and the surprising statistic that changed everything: only 5% of agented manuscripts get picked up by publishers.

What looks like failure from the outside was, for Eva, the beginning of a creative rebirth. She talks about the sculpture garden visit that sparked her next novel, how she wrote it in a burst of catharsis, and why she believes the books rejected by publishers often contain the seeds of better ones.

Eva and Alice also dive into the power of building a writing community — both offline and through an online writing community like Substack — and why being a “good literary citizen” is one of the most sustaining forces in the book writing community. From reaching out to debut authors, to creating her new podcast The Long Road to Publishing, to finding critique partners through workshops, Eva shows how connection can hold you steady when querying book agents threatens to break you.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone querying an agent, drafting a novel, navigating rejection, or searching for an honest look at what it means to query agents and publishers in today’s saturated market. It’s for every writer who has wondered if their dream is taking too long — and for anyone who needs the reminder that you haven’t failed if you’re still trying.

Resources & Links:

🌐 Listen to Eva’s podcast The Long Road to Publishing
📬 Subscribe to Eva’s Newsletter for Writers on Substack
💻 Connect with Eva at evalangston.com
🎧 Listen to This Mama Is Lit, where Eva is co-host

Chapters:

00:00 Why We Don’t Talk About Dead-On-Submission Books
02:00 Eva’s Earliest Rejection & Her Mother’s Brutal Honesty
06:30 Entering the Query Trenches—Writing Eight Novels
10:20 When Literary Agent Queries Go Nowhere
12:40 Querying a Book vs. Querying Your Worth
15:30 Landing an Agent After 90 Queries
18:00 The First Book Dies on Submission—And Then the Second
21:40 The 5% Statistic That Changed Everything
24:00 Publisher Silence, Rejection Emails, and Mental Health
27:05 Rebuilding Confidence Through a Writing Community
30:10 Substack, Online Writing Community, and Literary Citizenship
34:00 The Sculpture Garden Breakdown → Breakthrough
37:20 Writing a New Novel in Two Months
40:15 Exciting Developments (She Can’t Share Yet…)
41:40 Why She Started The Long Road to Publishing
46:10 AI Manuscripts, Inbox Saturation & Querying Book Agents Today
50:00 Champagne Rejections & How to Keep Going
52:30 How to Build Your Own Book Writing Community
57:00 Eva’s Parting Words: “You Haven’t Failed If You’re Still Trying.”

In this episode, keynote speaker and former litigator Kim Bolourtchi joins Alice to unpack what happens when following all the rules still leaves you feeling hollow.

After building a high-powered legal career, Kim realized that the very traits that made her “successful” — discipline, control, and achievement — were also keeping her small. She opens up about the moment her two worlds collided: arguing before the Missouri Supreme Court when her husband revealed her secret life as a Latin dancer. What felt like career sabotage became the spark that changed everything.

Kim and Alice dive deep into the invisible rules we inherit — from childhood conditioning to workplace norms — and how these rules shape our sense of belonging, respectability, and self-worth. Kim shares her journey of strategic unruliness: identifying the beliefs that no longer serve you, learning to trust your own desires, and taking small, courageous steps toward a more authentic life.

From losing a national dance competition in a catsuit to redefining what success looks like beyond external validation, Kim’s story is a masterclass in breaking patterns without burning down your life.

This episode is for anyone who’s done everything “right” and still feels like something’s missing — anyone who’s ready to stop performing success and start embodying it.

Resources & Links:
📘 Strategic Unruliness: Break the Rules, Build What’s Next by Kim Bolourtchi
🌐 Take Kim’s “Which Rule Is Running Your Life?” quiz at kimbolourtchi.com
💬 Connect with Kim on LinkedIn

Chapters:
00:00 The Ache of Doing Everything Right
01:10 Arguing Before the Supreme Court—and Being Outed as a Dancer
06:20 Integrating the Parts of Yourself You’ve Hidden
10:45 The Rules We Inherit From Childhood
15:00 When People-Pleasing Stops Serving You
20:00 Taking Small Steps Toward Alignment
26:30 The Catsuit Story: Breaking Convention and Rediscovering Joy
33:00 The Keynote Flop That Taught Her Conviction
41:00 Resentment, Envy, and the Signals of Misalignment
47:00 Redefining Security and Success on Your Own Terms
50:00 Building a Strategically Unruly Life

In this episode, I bring together four of the smartest, funniest, most relatable ADHD creators I know to unpack one of the trickiest topics in business: self-promotion.

We talk about everything from the executive dysfunction that makes “just post it” feel impossible, to the dopamine desert that hits after you finally do. There’s a lot of laughter, a lot of honesty, and a few mic-drop strategies that had me replaying the conversation for days.

You’ll hear from:

• Meredith Carder, ADHD educator and author of It All Makes Sense Now, who breaks down the emotional toll of visibility for neurodivergent creators—and why we so often ghost our own ideas.

• Jesse J. Anderson, author of Extra Focus, who shares his “pretend your friends and family don’t exist” strategy for posting content without panic.

• Diann Wingert, host of the ADHD-ish podcast and a business coach for ADHD entrepreneurs, who offers a brilliant reframe on negativity bias and visibility fear.

• Tayla Blaire, writer, journalist, and creator of the We Are Made of Stories writing course, who opens up about ghosting, grief, and the inner conflict of wanting to be seen while simultaneously hiding.

Whether you’re navigating public speaking with ADHD, wondering how to succeed in business with ADHD, or just trying to post consistently without spiraling, this conversation is for you.

If you’ve ever Googled things like “self-promotion ADHD” or “ADHD and executive functioning”—or you’ve been paralyzed by the thought of sharing your work—this episode will leave you feeling a lot less alone.

Meredith Carder
📘 It All Makes Sense Now
📰 Subscribe to Meredith’s Substack
📲 @hummingbird_adhd on Instagram

Jesse J. Anderson
📘 Buy Extra Focus
📝 Sign up to his newsletter
📲 @adhdjesse on Instagram and X

Diann Wingert
🌐 Business coaching services
🎧 Listen to ADHD-ish
🧠 Take her “What’s Holding You Back?” quiz
💼 Connect on LinkedIn

Tayla Blaire
✍️ Courses & writing mentorship
📲 @scribblingsidehustlers on Instagram
💼 Connect on LinkedIn

In this episode, bestselling author and former Hallmark executive Tara Jaye Frank joins Alice to talk about the messy, courageous process of letting go—of careers, of marriages, and of identities that no longer fit. From leaving a long-term marriage to walking away from a lucrative book deal, Tara opens up about what it means to choose yourself when everything in you has been wired for people-pleasing behavior.

She shares the subtle shifts that whisper when to leave a marriage—and how she found peace in deciding to leave, even when it meant stepping into uncertainty. Tara also reflects on burnout at work, the identity unraveling that followed her departure from Hallmark, and how she rebuilt her life through what she calls a transformation after midlife.

This is an episode for anyone standing at the crossroads of should I leave my marriage or when to call it quits in a marriage, wondering how to move through the end of a marriage or prepare to leave a good marriage without losing yourself in the process.

Tara’s story is a reminder that growth doesn’t always look like winning—it often looks like walking away.

If you’ve ever found yourself asking, “When should you leave a marriage?” or felt like you’re outgrowing the version of yourself who once fit so neatly into your life, this conversation is for you.

Resources & Links:
📘 The Waymakers by Tara Jaye Frank: https://www.thelwaymakers.com
🌐 Subscribe to Tara’s LinkedIn newsletter You Are Before the World: Tara J. Frank on LinkedIn`

Chapters:
00:00 The Shy Child Who Learned to Listen
03:40 Leaving a 21-Year Career at Hallmark
10:02 Preparing to Leave a Marriage—and Trusting Yourself Again
17:45 The Law of Least Effort and Accepting What’s True
26:50 When the Pain of Staying Outweighs the Fear of Leaving
31:40 I Left My Marriage: Learning to Let Go Without Losing Yourself
36:10 Publisher Rejection, Creative Alignment, and After 40 Transformation
43:00 Burnout, Boundaries, and the Helper’s Dilemma
50:00 Knowing What Matters So You Can Do What Counts

What if success takes longer than expected?

In this reflective and empowering episode, writer and creative entrepreneur Jamie Varon joins My Rejection Story to talk about the uncomfortable space between effort and outcome. We dig deep into the psychology of delayed gratification vs instant gratification, what it means to stay motivated when the world isn’t watching, and how to keep creating even when the payoff is years away.

Jamie shares how she rebuilt her creative process around trusting herself first—detaching from results, resisting the urge to quit too soon, and embracing the art of delayed gratification. She shares raw personal stories, including how she almost walked away from writing entirely—and what brought her back.

If you’ve ever burned out from hustle culture, doubted your work after one rejection, or felt crushed when something didn’t “go viral,” this episode will shift how you think about success. It’s a masterclass in delayed gratification motivation and creative resilience, especially for those building something meaningful.

In this episode, we discussed:

• Delayed gratification explained: why it’s harder than ever and how to build it

• The emotional cost of creating in a world obsessed with overnight success

• Why Jamie no longer ties her worth to her metrics (and how she made that shift)

• How to reframe “rejection” as a signal—not a stop sign

• Instant and delayed gratification in the context of writing, publishing, and marketing

• Learning to love the process more than the praise

• The role of delayed gratification in business and why short-term wins can sabotage long-term growth

• Her viral essay on Main Character Energy—and how the world twisted it

• Jamie’s new approach to creativity: aligned action, not panic performance

• What most people get wrong about motivation—and how she reclaimed hers

• One of our favorite Jamie Varon quotes: “You can’t rush what you want to last.”

  
  

Quotes:

💬 "You might spend two years for a one-minute result. So why not make those two years joyful?"
💬 "Trying is brave. And trying again is revolutionary."
💬 "Detaching from results isn’t giving up—it’s finally breathing."
💬 "Rejection doesn’t mean you were wrong. It might mean you’re early."

Chapters:

00:00 – Intro
02:00 – Delayed gratification motivation and what’s changed in the digital age
05:30 – The moment Jamie almost quit writing
09:00 – Navigating rejection and rebuilding self-trust
12:45 – The fork in the road: believe the rejection, or believe your vision
16:20 – How Jamie Varon books have evolved alongside her inner world
21:10 – Jamie Varon main character energy—and the backlash
25:30 – Letting go of hustle for alignment
29:00 – Why we confuse feedback with fact
32:00 – Creative longevity and delayed gratification in business
36:00 – Writing for soul, not sales
40:00 – What she tells herself now when things don’t take off
44:00 – The secret to finishing what you start

Resources:

• Jamie Varon books: Radically Content, Main Character Energy

• Website: www.jamievaron.com

• Instagram: @jamievaron

• Explore more Jamie Varon quotes and essays at Radically Content

What if the fear of rejection is actually a fear of being fully seen?

In this poetic and soul-searching episode, author and spoken word artist Arielle Estoria opens up about what it means to grow beyond who the world expects you to be—and how devastating, liberating, and cyclical that journey can be.

Best known for her viral Arielle Estoria poems, her book The Unfolding, and her ability to speak straight to the soul, Arielle shares the deeply personal story behind her own “unfolding.” She discusses the grief of leaving behind old identities, the risk of becoming someone new, and the human need for belonging—especially when you no longer fit the roles that once made you feel loved.

We talk about how her relationship with her husband gave her the courage to question inherited beliefs, why creativity is a core value in her life, and what it means to trade approval for truth. Whether you're in the middle of your own unfolding story or afraid to let go of the identity you’ve outgrown, this conversation is a balm for anyone who's ever felt the sting of having no sense of belonging.

What We Cover:

• The awakening: What it feels like to outgrow the life that once felt safe

• How Arielle’s husband became a catalyst for growth and authenticity

• Grief as part of growth: What we don’t talk about when we talk about becoming

• Letting go of people, labels, and spaces that no longer reflect who you are

• Why creativity as a value is about healing, not performance

• The cost of honesty: Losing gigs, friends, and familiarity—and choosing truth anyway

• What it means to rewrite your “too much” narrative

• How her book The Unfolding and her album The Art of Unfolding were created for her own healing first

• The one Arielle Estoria quote every creator needs to hear

• How rejection became redirection—and why the work always finds who it’s meant for

• Using art to create belonging, not applause

• Why even non-artists can use creativity for healing

Quotes That Hit Hard:

💬 "I’d rather have friends who love me whole than love me half."
💬 "That’s the old story. Now, what’s the new one?"
💬 "Creativity is not about sounding good—it’s about speaking soul to soul."
💬 "Rejection isn’t a dead end. Sometimes, it’s a reroute to yourself."

Chapters:

00:00 – Intro
01:30 – Awakening vs autopilot living
04:45 – How her husband gave her permission to explore
08:30 – The grief of growing and letting go
12:00 – Rejection, community loss, and spiritual dissonance
15:10 – Redefining self-worth and belonging
18:20 – How Arielle Estoria poems became a healing practice
22:45 – Why her writing isn’t for the ears—but for the soul
26:10 – Her response to low book sales and how she redefined success
30:45 – Can anyone access healing through art? (Yes.)
35:00 – The raw vulnerability of publishing your truth
40:00 – What rejection taught her about audience, ego, and trust
43:00 – Rewriting the unfolding story in real time

Resources:

• 📚 Arielle Estoria books: The Unfolding

• 🎧 The Art of Unfolding – Spoken word album (Spotify, Apple Music, etc.)

• 🔗 Website: www.arielleestoria.com

• 📲 Instagram: @arielleestoria

What happens when the dream ends and you're left with nothing?

In this raw and powerful episode of My Rejection Story, former NFL player turned motivational speaker Marques Ogden shares his incredible journey through identity loss, business collapse, and ultimately, self-reinvention.

At one point, Marques was at the top: running a $25 million construction company, driving luxury cars, and living the life of a successful ex-athlete. But behind the scenes, ego, poor financial decisions, and misplaced trust led to a devastating fall. He lost it all—his home, his cars, and his sense of purpose.

What followed was even harder: a humbling stint as a night-shift custodian, addiction recovery, and facing the painful truth about his role in it all. This episode doesn’t just explore rejection. It unpacks what happens when you stop blaming the world and start taking ownership.

Marques shares openly about grief, addiction, bankruptcy, and the moment he decided to rebuild his life—this time on truth, not illusion. If you've ever asked yourself “What is entrepreneurial ego?” or wondered how to bounce back from failure, this one’s for you.

What We Cover:

• Life after the NFL: Why 78% of athletes go broke and how Marques found himself spiraling

• Grief, addiction, and the tattoo that became his wake-up call

• Building a $25M company from scratch—and the early cracks he ignored

• Business debt meaning: how undocumented deals led to financial ruin

• The fine line between confidence and arrogance in entrepreneurship

• Losing it all: how one client’s handshake deal cost him everything

• Hitting rock bottom as a custodian—and learning to tell the truth

• How he became a full-time Marques Ogden speaker and keynote coach

• His current relationship with external validation and humility

• How gratitude and discipline helped him reclaim purpose

• The importance of listening to your team and trusting the right people

• The role of Marques Ogden’s wife and daughter during his hardest seasons

• Why rejection is often the best data point we can get

Chapters

00:00 – Intro
02:00 – Life after NFL: Expectation vs reality
04:30 – Rock bottom: Addiction, grief, and survival mode
08:00 – The tattoo incident that changed everything
12:30 – From redemption to arrogance: Building and losing the biz
18:45 – The phone call that ended everything
23:00 – Repossession, foreclosure, and starting over
26:00 – Ego and ignored advice: What Marques would do differently
30:00 – The moment he realized he was a “fake and a phony”
34:00 – The spilled milk story: Rock bottom reenacted
37:00 – Becoming a speaker and rebuilding his reputation
41:00 – The discipline myth: You don’t need to be gifted
43:00 – Gratitude, ego, and redefining success

Resources Mentioned:

• Marques Ogden podcast: Get Authentic with Marques Ogden

• Website: www.marquesogden.com

• The Marques Ogden App (with exclusive content and coaching offers)

• Instagram & LinkedIn: @marquesogden

• Email: marques@marquesogden.com

What if the fear of rejection is actually a fear of being fully seen?

In this poetic and soul-searching episode, author and spoken word artist Arielle Estoria opens up about what it means to grow beyond who the world expects you to be—and how devastating, liberating, and cyclical that journey can be.

Best known for her viral Arielle Estoria poems, her book The Unfolding, and her ability to speak straight to the soul, Arielle shares the deeply personal story behind her own “unfolding.” She discusses the grief of leaving behind old identities, the risk of becoming someone new, and the human need for belonging—especially when you no longer fit the roles that once made you feel loved.

We talk about how her relationship with her husband gave her the courage to question inherited beliefs, why creativity is a core value in her life, and what it means to trade approval for truth. Whether you're in the middle of your own unfolding story or afraid to let go of the identity you’ve outgrown, this conversation is a balm for anyone who's ever felt the sting of having no sense of belonging.

What We Cover:

• The awakening: What it feels like to outgrow the life that once felt safe

• How Arielle’s husband became a catalyst for growth and authenticity

• Grief as part of growth: What we don’t talk about when we talk about becoming

• Letting go of people, labels, and spaces that no longer reflect who you are

• Why creativity as a value is about healing, not performance

• The cost of honesty: Losing gigs, friends, and familiarity—and choosing truth anyway

• What it means to rewrite your “too much” narrative

• How her book The Unfolding and her album The Art of Unfolding were created for her own healing first

• The one Arielle Estoria quote every creator needs to hear

• How rejection became redirection—and why the work always finds who it’s meant for

• Using art to create belonging, not applause

• Why even non-artists can use creativity for healing

Quotes That Hit Hard:

💬 "I’d rather have friends who love me whole than love me half."
💬 "That’s the old story. Now, what’s the new one?"
💬 "Creativity is not about sounding good—it’s about speaking soul to soul."
💬 "Rejection isn’t a dead end. Sometimes, it’s a reroute to yourself."

Chapters:

00:00 – Intro
01:30 – Awakening vs autopilot living
04:45 – How her husband gave her permission to explore
08:30 – The grief of growing and letting go
12:00 – Rejection, community loss, and spiritual dissonance
15:10 – Redefining self-worth and belonging
18:20 – How Arielle Estoria poems became a healing practice
22:45 – Why her writing isn’t for the ears—but for the soul
26:10 – Her response to low book sales and how she redefined success
30:45 – Can anyone access healing through art? (Yes.)
35:00 – The raw vulnerability of publishing your truth
40:00 – What rejection taught her about audience, ego, and trust
43:00 – Rewriting the unfolding story in real time

Resources:

• 📚 Arielle Estoria books: The Unfolding

• 🎧 The Art of Unfolding – Spoken word album (Spotify, Apple Music, etc.)

• 🔗 Website: www.arielleestoria.com

• 📲 Instagram: @arielleestoria

Ever heard of defensive failure? What about productive failure?

In this deeply honest and psychologically rich episode, cognitive psychologist and bestselling author Dr. Amanda Crowell unpacks what it means to do the work that truly matters. We explore the Great Work framework, the emotional toll of overachievement, and the quiet sabotage of “defensive failure”—a pattern that stops us from even attempting the things we care about most.

Amanda shares her own story of striving for approval, hitting burnout, and experiencing a health collapse that forced her to radically rethink her life. From panic attacks and autoimmune flare-ups to a TEDx talk viewed by 1.7M+ people, her story is a roadmap for finding meaning at work, rediscovering your voice, and finally choosing yourself.

This conversation is for anyone yearning to feel more alive—whether by finding purpose at work, outside of work, or figuring out how to enjoy work again after years of burnout. It’s also a must-listen if you’ve ever doubted your potential, or convinced yourself you’re “not that kind of person.”

What We Cover:

• Why most people fail before they even start—and how to spot “defensive failure” in your own life

• The pressure to overachieve: How childhood patterns, trauma, and external validation drive burnout

• Amanda’s breaking point: a panic attack that led to an unexpected health crisis and major life reset

• What “great work” really means—and how to spot your own great work thread

• The surprising way intrinsic motivation works (and why competitive goals often backfire)

• How to build momentum in the smallest ways—and stop self-rejection in its tracks

• Reframing rejection as data, not defeat

• Finding purpose at work worksheet (included in Amanda’s book!)

• How to do less, enjoy more, and feel alive again

  Why burnout recovery requires joy, not just rest

What if the thing that hurts the most isn’t rejection itself, but how your brain processes it?

In this emotionally resonant solo episode, host Alice Draper unpacks the lived experience of Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria (RSD): a lesser-known but deeply felt condition experienced by many, especially those with ADHD. Through childhood memories, Reddit stories, and peer-reviewed research, she explores why RSD feels like a punch in the gut, and what we can do to cope with it.

Alice shares a painful moment from her teenage years that still echoes today: being excluded by a close friend in front of others, and the full-body shutdown that followed. It’s a familiar story for many people with rejection sensitive dysphoria ADHD, particularly rejection sensitive dysphoria women navigating friendships, love, and work in a world that often mistakes sensitivity for weakness.

You’ll hear from others too: Stories pulled from rejection sensitive dysphoria Reddit communities that reveal just how common and debilitating these experiences are. Alice also walks through evidence-backed strategies pulled from a rejection sensitive dysphoria workbook by Neurodivergent Insights, and introduces a free rejection sensitive dysphoria test that listeners can use to assess their own experience.

Whether you're searching how to cope with rejection sensitive dysphoria, how to overcome rejection sensitive dysphoria, or curious about rejection sensitive dysphoria ADHD treatment options, this episode offers understanding, science, and self-compassion in equal measure.

If you’ve ever felt “too sensitive,” this conversation will help you feel a little more seen, and a lot less alone.

What We Cover:

• What rejection sensitive dysphoria (RSD) actually is—and why it’s not just about being overly sensitive

• The neuroscience behind why social rejection activates the same part of the brain as physical pain

• A deeply personal story from Alice’s teenage years and how those feelings still show up today

• Raw, relatable Reddit posts from people living with RSD

• The staggering statistic that children with ADHD hear 20,000 more negative messages by age 10 (via Dr. William Dodson)

• A reputable, expert-backed rejection sensitive dysphoria test you can take to assess your symptoms

• A resource-rich article from Neurodivergent Insights that doubles as a rejection sensitive dysphoria workbook

• Tools and strategies for emotional regulation, black-and-white thinking, and self-compassion

  When (and how) to seek professional help—and what to know about ADHD treatment for rejection sensitive dysphoria

What happens when success becomes a prison?

In this candid and soul-baring episode, bestselling author and branding expert Jessica Zweig opens up about the emotional cost of staying in a business that no longer aligned with her truth. She shares the moment she realized it was more painful to stay than to leave—and what followed was a journey of healing, identity loss, and radical self-reinvention.

Jessica speaks about the real-life complexities of leaving a business partnership without an agreement, navigating debt in entrepreneurship, and the slow unraveling that comes when you’ve built something that no longer serves your growth. Through her story, we unpack what it really means to change your life—not through hustle, but through alignment.

This episode will resonate deeply with anyone feeling stuck, burnt out, or silently questioning the cost of their own ambition.

What We Cover:

• Why Jessica left her first company, even though it looked like a dream from the outside

• The emotional and financial aftermath of splitting a business partnership with no formal exit plan

• The toll of chronic burnout and situational depression—despite outward “success”

• How to begin healing when your identity has been tied to achievement

• The meaning of spiritual entrepreneurship and how Jessica integrates it into her life today

• Practices that supported her transformation and helped her change her life for the better

  What sovereignty means—and why it’s not a luxury, but a necessity

In this short and powerful replay, ADHD coach, creator, and author Meredith Carder explains why masking happens, what ADHD masking symptoms look like, and how to make strategic choices about when to mask and when to unmask. Many people with ADHD mask their symptoms (at work, with friends, or in public) to fit in and avoid judgment. But masking comes at a cost, and for some, it can lead to ADHD masking burnout.

Meredith shares practical ADHD masking examples and her “low-reward masking” approach for reducing the energy drain of constant self-monitoring. We also talk about finding masking accommodations that help you function without burning out, and how community can ease ADHD friendship struggles, ADHD friendship issues, and help you build genuine ADHD friendship groups.

The conversation then shifts to ADHD rejection sensitive dysphoria (also called ADHD rejection sensitivity disorder), including what’s happening in the brain during perceived rejection, why rejection sensitive dysphoria in ADHD women can feel especially intense, and how emotional regulation and ADHD are connected. Meredith shares tools for increasing rejection tolerance, the role of executive functioning in ADHD women, and how to apply these strategies in daily life.

If you’ve ever looked up an ADHD masking questionnaire, searched for ways to prevent burnout, or wondered how to deal with RSD in a relationship, this episode will give you practical insights and compassionate perspective.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

• The risks of constant masking and signs of ADHD masking burnout

• How to identify ADHD masking symptoms in yourself

• Real-life ADHD masking examples that can actually help

• Meredith’s “low-reward masking” approach to conserving energy

• How to find masking accommodations that support your needs

• Navigating ADHD friendship struggles, ADHD friendship issues, and building ADHD friendship groups

• Understanding ADHD rejection sensitive dysphoria and ADHD rejection sensitivity disorder

• Why rejection sensitive dysphoria in ADHD women can feel different

  Tools for emotional regulation and ADHD

• The connection between executive functioning in ADHD women and rejection tolerance

• How to deal with RSD in a relationship and practical steps to reduce its impact

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  Links & Resources

  • Follow Meredith Carder on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hummingbird_adhd/

• • Read Meredith’s book on adult ADHD: It All Makes Sense Now: Embrace your ADHD brain to live a creative and colorful life
  • Subscribe to Meredith's Substacks: Meredith Carder Substack and It All Makes Sense Now Substack
• • Take an ADHD masking questionnaire to explore your own masking patterns: https://www.bhcsmt.com/aamm

  
  

  Chapters:
  01:33 The dangers of masking
  03:35 How masking can be beneficial
  04:10 Meredith’s “low-reward masking” approach
  06:30 Finding masking accommodations
  07:35 ADHD friendship struggles and friendship groups
  09:06 Understanding ADHD rejection sensitive dysphoria
  11:31 What’s happening in the brain during perceived rejection
  12:46 Emotional regulation and ADHD
  14:10 Executive functioning in ADHD women and cognitive inflexibility
  16:07 Why self-awareness matters for managing RSD
  18:33 How to deal with RSD in a relationship and improve rejection tolerance
  20:30 Lifestyle factors that increase emotional resilience

Christine Platt boldly embraces the power of less. She has written more than two dozen books, and spent more than 20 years advocating for social justice and the environment in academia, governments, non-profits and the private sector. After writing The Afrominimalist’s Guide to Living with Less,she became widely known as the Afro-minimalist, a black woman who started a movement. In the book, she radically revisions minimalism, integrating it with history and heritage.

In this episode, Christine Platt explores how rejection can lead us to tell self-limiting stories about ourselves. By reframing these rejection stories, we can open up opportunities for personal transformation. She reflects on the development of self-awareness and resilience, and highlights the role of self-talk, and language in letting go of limiting beliefs. She describes the discomfort of learning to “be” instead of constantly “doing” which had led her to a state of overwhelm.  She touches on the pandemic and proposes that we are still going through an unspoken cycle of collective grief - that needs attention.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Christine Platt and Her Journey

01:00 The Gift of Parental Support and Career Freedom

03:04 Transitioning from Doing to Being

06:09 Navigating Uncertainty and Life Cycles

10:04 Rejection Stories and Their Impact

12:01 The Power of Reframing Rejection

17:53 Finding Meaning in Lowest Lows and Highest Highs

33:03 Understanding Rejection Stories

38:01 The Journey of Self-Discovery

42:17 The Importance of Introspection

45:53 Navigating Collective Grief

56:30 Building Community and Connection

Resources and Links:

Her new book “Less Is Liberation: Finding Freedom from a Life of Overwhelm” will be released in October 2025 and you can pre-order here: https://www.amazon.com/Less-Liberation-Finding-Freedom-Overwhelm/dp/153875830X

Instagram: @iamchristineplatt

Subscribe to Christine’s Substack: https://christineplatt.substack.com/

To find out more about Christine Platt visit: https://www.iamchristineplatt.com/

This episode is personal, vulnerable, and messy — for a reason.

Alice reflects on the fear of saying the wrong thing, the rejection that often follows speaking up, and what happened when influencer Jenna Kutcher finally broke her silence on Palestine.

This is a conversation about rejection, shame, activism, and the paralysis of perfectionism in the age of public scrutiny.

Chapters:

00:00 Opening — fear, paralysis, and why this episode feels scary
01:23 Jenna Kutcher’s post on Gaza
03:00 Background information on Palestine
04:40 Silence after October 7 and influencer inaction
06:32 Why some people don’t speak up
08:40 The impossible expectations around speaking out
10:50 The science of rejection and how it relates to activism
12:36 Self-affirmation theory and how it helps us take action
14:03 Personal reflection on sharing imperfect thoughts
15:42 Final thoughts — rejection, risk, and showing up anyway

Resources & Mentions:

Jenna Kutcher’s Instagram post:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DMmA5sbOYG5/?igsh=MTRyOTBpZnR3eHFndw==

Alice’s interview with Sarah Rice on This Changes Everything:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/learning-to-reject-rejection/id1640548625?i=1000708545091

Scientific American: Study on why rejection activates the same brain regions as physical pain:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-we-are-wired-to-connect/

APA article on self-affirmation theory:
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2007-19538-004

Your loneliness isn't weakness, it's love without a home.

In this raw and reflective episode, writer and mindset coach Katie Horwitch joins Alice to explore the emotional roots of identity, self-talk, loneliness, and healing. Katie shares her journey from childhood eating disorders to building a platform that helps others shift their inner narratives—without sugarcoating the messiness of that process.

Together, they dive into the stories we tell ourselves when we’re rejected, the parts of us we learn to perform, and why so many high-functioning people are secretly lonely.

You’ll hear:

• Why Katie says “loneliness is love with nowhere to go”

• How eating disorders were a way to create control and connection

• The cost of being the “good girl” in every room

• Why self-love isn’t the same as self-like

• What happens when recognition doesn't feel like belonging

• How to break fluency in negative self-talk—and learn a new emotional language

This episode is a compassionate and cutting look at how we reject ourselves before anyone else can—and what it takes to stop.

Chapters:

00:50 Intro
03:02 When Katie realized her dream no longer fit
07:44 How eating disorders became a survival strategy
10:55 Performing perfection and the cost of control
14:20 “I was fluent in shame”
16:12 Loneliness as a side effect of masking
18:49 Rebuilding identity after letting go of the stage
23:03 Self-talk as a learned language
26:57 What happens when we stop performing healing
30:14 Why recognition felt hollow without real connection
34:30 Holding high standards and self-compassion
38:08 Katie’s approach to rebuilding community and belonging
42:10 Where to find Katie and her work

Resources & Links:

• Katie’s book: Want Yourself

• Website: katiehorwitch.com

• Follow Katie on Instagram: @katiehorwitch

Heartbreak doesn’t just feel like withdrawal. It is withdrawal.

In this short, powerful replay, psychologist and author Guy Winch explains why breakups hurt so much and why trying to “stay friends” with your ex might be sabotaging your recovery.

He breaks down the neuroscience of heartbreak, compares it to addiction, and shares why going cold turkey - unfollowing, muting, and cutting contact - isn’t dramatic. It’s necessary.

You’ll hear:

• Why heartbreak activates the same brain regions as physical pain

• The science behind why you’re obsessively thinking about your ex

• How heartbreak mimics the brain patterns of drug withdrawal

• Why unfollowing your ex is a psychological intervention, not a petty move

• What to do instead of re-reading old messages or checking their feed

This is a must-listen if you, or someone you love, can’t stop going back to the ghost of a relationship.

Resources & Mentions:

• Guy Winch’s TED Talk: How to Fix a Broken Heart, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0GQSJrpVhM&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD

• Book: How to Fix a Broken Heart, https://www.amazon.com/How-Fix-Broken-Heart-Books/dp/1501120123

• Podcast: Dear Therapists, https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-therapists-with-lori-gottlieb-and-guy-winch/id1523340696

• Website: guywinch.com

What if every tiny criticism (real or imagined) felt like a full-body betrayal?

In this validating and deeply personal episode, ADHD educator and author Jesse J. Anderson joins Alice to unpack what rejection-sensitive dysphoria (RSD) really feels like, and how it’s shaped his relationships, self-perception, and emotional responses.

Jesse shares how RSD used to hijack his nervous system, leading to blow-ups in conversations with his wife and shame spirals that lasted for days. But over time, he’s learned to pause, name what’s happening, and create space for a different response.

You’ll hear:

• How RSD distorts emotional cues and triggers emotional overwhelm

• Why Jesse used to “blow up” and what he does differently now

• The therapist phrase that helped him access logic in the middle of a spiral

• What happens when ADHDers interpret normal conflict as deep rejection

• Why emotional regulation looks different for ADHD brains, and why it matters

• How Jesse’s layoff pushed him to lean on community instead of hiding

This episode is a must-listen for anyone with ADHD—or anyone who loves someone with it.

Chapters:

00:50 Intro
02:21 Jesse on being the “bad kid” with undiagnosed ADHD
05:33 What rejection-sensitive dysphoria (RSD) actually feels like
10:10 The therapist phrase that changed everything
13:55 ADHD and marriage: how Jesse nearly blew it
17:42 Learning to pause before blowing up
21:05 Jesse’s “hand over mouth” moment
23:18 Getting laid off and going public
26:50 The healing power of community
31:45 Why ADHD friendships often fall apart
35:22 Jesse’s app idea for remembering friends
38:10 Grieving the ADHD kid you were
41:03 How Jesse shows up differently now
45:12 Where to find Jesse and his work

Resources & Links:

Jesse's book, Extra Focus: https://www.amazon.com/Extra-Focus-Quick-Start-Guide/dp/B0CGKL5FGF

Follow Jesse on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adhdjesse/

Follow Jesse's Substack: https://substack.com/@adhdjesse

Why do we still fear being left out, even in safe, loving friendships?

In this solo episode, Alice opens up about a vivid dream that left her in tears and the deeper fears it uncovered. Despite being a grown adult with supportive relationships, her subconscious still clings to the belief that one day, the people she loves might just… stop loving her.

This episode dives into the science behind social rejection, the wounds we carry from childhood friendship dynamics, and what rejection-sensitive dysphoria looks like in everyday life (yes, even in dreams). With warmth, insight, and zero toxic positivity, Alice shares how she copes when the fear of being unwanted comes roaring back.

You’ll hear:

• Why our brains process rejection like physical pain

• The childhood friendship that left a mark—and still shows up in dreams

• How rejection-sensitive dysphoria impacts friendships and self-trust

• Why “rejection = redirection” isn’t always helpful

• Practical ways to cope with perceived rejection without spiraling

• Why diversifying your identity makes rejection hurt less

This one’s for anyone who’s ever walked away from a group hang wondering, “Did I say something wrong?” or reread a text thread five times to confirm they weren’t being iced out.

Chapters:

00:50 The dream that triggered this episode
03:12 Why safe friendships still feel unsafe sometimes
06:40 The science of rejection and why it physically hurts
10:45 Childhood friendship wounds and feeling ousted
15:05 Why I still carry those fears into adulthood
17:00 Lessons from Sarah Rice on dealing with mass rejection
20:22 How to cope when social media amplifies rejection
23:05 You don’t need to find the lesson right away
25:19 Feeling grief and gratitude at the same time
28:14 Why nuance matters: people aren't all good or all bad
31:08 Diversifying your identity to soften the sting
34:35 Reflections on nine months of podcasting
36:45 A thank you, and what's next for the show

Resources:

Cyberball study on social rejection (a meta-analysis)

My Rejection Story Interview with Whitney Goodman on Toxic Positivity

Alice Draper's Interview on Sarah Rice's Podcast "This Changes Everything"

Email Alice: alice@hustlingwriters.com

Why does book rejection feel so personal—so final? Why does a book rejection letter have the power to stall a project for years, even when the idea still matters? And how do some authors seem to land book deals—sometimes before the book is even written—while others stay stuck in endless rejection cycles?

In this episode of My Rejection Story, Alice is joined by Allison Lane, founder of Allison Lane Literary, a former PR executive turned book strategist who has helped every one of her clients land an agent and secure a book publishing deal. Together, they unpack what rejection in the publishing world actually means—and why it’s rarely about your worth, talent, or intelligence.

Allison reframes rejection as a strategic signal, not a dead end. Drawing from decades in PR, brand strategy, and publishing, she explains why most aspiring authors misunderstand how the industry works, why writing the full book too early can actually hurt your chances, and how to become “book rejection proof” by thinking like a business—not a hopeful artist waiting for approval.

Throughout the conversation, Alice and Allison explore how childhood rejection, shame, and trauma shape creative ambition, why nonfiction books are sold on proposal (not passion), and how authors can learn how to get a book deal with no money, without an agent, or before writing the book—if they understand the real rules of the game.

In this episode, they explore:

• Why book publishing rejection is usually a signal—not a verdict

• What a book rejection letter is actually telling you (and what it’s not)

• How to deal with rejection when writing books without losing momentum

• How to get a book deal without an agent—and when an agent actually matters

• How to get a book deal with a publisher by pitching the idea, not the manuscript

• Why nonfiction authors should learn how to get a book deal before writing the book

• How to get a book publishing deal by widening—not narrowing—your audience

• Why “being good” isn’t what sells books, and what does

• How authors with small platforms still land major deals (including lessons from Allison Lane books and clients)

Rather than romanticizing rejection or offering empty encouragement, this episode gives listeners a clear-eyed look at the publishing ecosystem—where books are products, authors are brands, and rejection is part of the filtering process, not a personal failure.

If you’ve ever asked yourself how do you get a book deal? or how can I get a book deal without burning years on the wrong strategy? this conversation will fundamentally change how you approach publishing—and rejection itself.

Connect with Allison Lane:
Website: https://lanelit.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/allisonlanelit/

Chapters

00:00 Rejection as Redirection—and Why Publishing “No’s” Aren’t Dead Ends
03:30 Saying Yes Early: Why Idealism Can Quietly Stall Creative Careers
08:45 What PR Teaches You About Pitching—and Why Most Book Pitches Fail
13:30 ADHD, Trauma, and Why Rejection Cuts Deeper for Some Creators
18:00 Shame, Silence, and the Stories We’re Afraid to Write
23:00 Why Some People Grow After Trauma—and Others Get Stuck
27:30 Imposter Syndrome, Ambition, and the Fear of Being Left Behind
32:00 Standing Out Without Credentials: How Alison Learned to Be Unignorable
37:00 Why Writing the Full Book First Is a Mistake in Nonfiction
41:00 How Publishers Actually Decide Which Books to Buy
46:00 The Myth of “Too Niche” vs. the Reality of Audience Expansion
51:00 Why Books Don’t Sell Because They’re Good—and What Actually Makes Them Sell
56:00 Becoming the Marketer of Your Own Book (Without Doing Everything)
01:00:30 Building a Platform Before the Book—and Why Timing Matters
01:02:00 Final Thoughts: Becoming Book-Rejection-Proof and Taking Action

What would you do if a media giant stole your idea—and then went viral with it?

In this deeply personal and surprisingly funny episode, Alice sits down with Marina Iakovleva, the creator of Dating Beyond Borders, a wildly popular YouTube channel with over 675,000 subscribers. Marina built her brand from a scrappy video experiment in Panama to a global platform exploring intercultural relationships—and she did it without a team, a big budget, or any media backing.

But along the way, her ideas were copied by Buzzfeed and other production companies with massive teams and bigger marketing power. Instead of quitting, she pivoted—and found a new format that reignited her creativity and brought her closer to her audience than ever before.

You’ll hear:

• How a three-day vacation romance inspired Marina’s entire business

• What she did after Buzzfeed copied her video concept (and commenters said she was the copycat)

• Why she pivoted from studio shoots to street interviews—and never looked back

• Her honest take on the loneliness of digital nomad life and not having a place to call “home”

• Why you’re more attractive when you’re in a city you actually like

• How to make peace with fractured identity—and keep showing up anyway

This is an episode about content, connection, and carving your own lane when no one hands you a map.

Chapters:

00:50 Intro
02:44 Being the anxious kid and earliest rejections
05:53 Why teaching felt safe—but wrong
08:13 Choosing regret minimization over predictability
13:41 “Where do I belong?”—living between cultures
24:49 The vacation romance that started it all
27:40 How Sebastian the German became Marina’s origin story
31:09 Building a business from rejection
36:20 How she grew to 100K+ subscribers in under a year
43:49 The Rebel Wilson problem—pivoting when your audience doesn’t want you to
48:54 Buzzfeed, copycats, and being accused of stealing your own idea
51:13 What to do when you’re the underdog in a production war
56:25 Boundaries, burnout, and reactivity in business
01:00:08 How Marina approaches content growth (and why obsession > perfection)
01:05:16 Where to find Marina and hire her as a speaker

• Marina’s YouTube: Dating Beyond Borders

• Marina’s podcast: Dating Beyond Borders Podcast

• Marina’s book: Sex Before Coffee: A Guide to Dating in Scandinavia

• Speaking inquiries: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/marina-iakovleva-dbb

Why does criticism feel like a punch to the gut when you have ADHD? And why do so many women with ADHD go undiagnosed for decades?

In this bold and eye-opening episode, bestselling author and podcast host Tracy Otsuka joins Alice to unpack how rejection shows up in the ADHD brain, and why it’s often misunderstood, minimized, or masked.

Tracy shares the brain science behind rejection-sensitive dysphoria, the gendered shame baked into our understanding of ADHD, and how her son’s diagnosis ultimately led to her own. You’ll hear candid stories of failure, identity shifts, and the powerful moment a psychologist told her to lower her expectations for her child.

You’ll hear:

• What rejection does to the ADHD brain (and why your mind feels like it “goes offline”)

• The truth behind why girls often go undiagnosed until adulthood

• How masking, people-pleasing, and perfectionism fuel burnout

• The timer trick Tracy swears by for getting started (even when it feels impossible)

• Why ADHD is not a productivity problem—it’s an identity one

This is an episode about shame, stigma, and how to rewrite your internal narrative, on your terms.

Chapters:

00:50 Intro
01:18 The label 'too much' and early rejection
03:38 Shame, gender norms, and ADHD in women
06:53 What happens in the ADHD brain during rejection
10:28 Learned helplessness and internalized criticism
12:44 Why girls are misdiagnosed with anxiety and depression
13:41 Hormones, dopamine, and maturity-onset ADHD
17:02 Moving from inaction to identity-based action
22:26 Fun, challenging, and social—the ADHD productivity trifecta
25:52 Building a trustworthy identity with micro-habits
30:31 Tracy’s time cube hack for procrastination
35:00 How her son's diagnosis led to her own
38:28 “Your son is too ambitious”—a psychologist’s rejection
42:34 How diagnosis changed Tracy’s self-perception
45:14 The rejection that comes from not trusting yourself
50:50 Where to find Tracy and her work

Resources & Links:

• Tracy’s book: ADHD for Smart Ass Women

• Tracy’s podcast: ADHD for Smart Ass Women

• Website & Programs: ADHDforSmartWomen.com

What if success wasn't the reward for grinding through work—but the result of actually enjoying it?

In this candid and deeply insightful episode, multi-time founder and former Airbnb leader Jason Silver joins Alice to unpack the often backwards narratives we hold about work, ambition, and rejection.

Jason shares the raw story of crashing his startup—and the surprising way that failure led to a life-changing opportunity at Airbnb. He also dives into the neuroscience behind why so many people regret changing jobs, what "hedonic adaptation" has to do with your career dissatisfaction, and how he redefined productivity after a personal tragedy.

You’ll hear:

• Why Jason believes enjoyment is a practice, not a perk

• How he almost got fired after presenting the “perfect” plan to Airbnb leadership

• A dead-simple question that helped him 9x his results

• The personal loss that transformed how he approached work and life

• Practical frameworks for finding more energy, meaning, and satisfaction in your current job

This is an episode about failure, but also about designing a working life you don’t need to escape from.

Chapters:

00:50 Intro
02:44 Why quitting your job doesn’t make you happier
06:26 Hedonic adaptation at work
09:22 The difference between fun and enjoyment
13:34 Doing the same task differently
19:45 The iPhone list exercise
28:00 The 10x Airbnb challenge
35:57 What would need to be true?
41:46 Defining rejection
43:52 Crashing a startup
52:24 The grief that changed everything
59:51 How Jason has changed
1:03:13 Advice to enjoy growing a podcast

Resources & Links:

• Jason’s website: thejasonsilver.com

• Jason’s book: Your Grass Is Greener – yourgrassisgreener.com

• Follow Jason on LinkedIn: Jason Silver

  
  

Uncertainty can feel like standing on the edge of a cliff, waiting for instructions that never arrive.

In this solo episode, Alice reflects on her early career decision to turn down traditional jobs and lean into freelancing—not because it felt brave, but because it made a strange kind of sense. Years later, she’s still navigating the discomfort of not-knowing, and learning to stay present through the fog.

This is a gentle, personal reflection on:

• The subtle self-rejection baked into chasing certainty

• How clarity doesn’t always come with a five-step plan

• Micro-decisions that help you feel more grounded

• Why uncertainty often brings up shame, even when we’re doing the “right” thing

Alice also shares tools that help her hold the discomfort without rushing through it—like labeling what’s still certain, making room for nuance, and trusting that inner clarity takes time.

🎧 If you're in the middle of a career shift, life decision, or quiet personal reckoning… this one’s for you.

with Senamile Zungu

In this episode, Alice sits down with her best friend Senamile Zungu for the most personal conversation ever recorded on My Rejection Story. Sena opens up about what it took to unravel—and survive—after years of perfectionism, people-pleasing, and pushing through pain.

From two psychiatric hospitalizations to setting boundaries that cost her relationships, this is the story of what happens when a woman chooses herself for the very first time.

Together, Alice and Sena reflect on friendship, anger, grief, and the violent pressure to be everything to everyone. It’s a raw and unfiltered conversation about burnout, identity loss, and what it takes to reinvent your life from scratch.

This episode is about loving someone through the ugliest seasons of their life—and holding onto yourself when the world tells you to disappear.

In This Episode, We Cover:

• Why burnout was just the symptom—and how much deeper the wound went

• What people-pleasing costs you (and who you have to grieve to stop doing it)

• What it’s like to survive a suicide attempt and still feel like a burden

• The rage that comes when you finally stop self-abandoning

• Why boundaries feel like betrayal—even when they’re saving your life

• How it feels to lose family, faith, and career—and still want to try again

• What it means to be witnessed in your full, messy, human self

This episode is about loving someone through the ugliest seasons of their life—and holding onto yourself when the world tells you to disappear.

Links & Resources:

🎧 Listen to Sena’s podcast, Colour-full
https://pod.link/1736137543

📘 Read: When The Body Says No by Dr. Gabor Maté
https://www.amazon.com/When-Body-Says-Understanding-Stress-Disease/dp/0470923350

📱 Follow Senamile on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/sena_zungu/

💼 Connect with Senamile on LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/senamile-zungu-a8375627a/

Chapters:

00:00 The Friendship Behind the Mic
06:11 What Burnout Really Looked Like
10:42 Surviving Hospitalization—and the Shame That Follows
15:33 People-Pleasing and the Loss of Self
21:58 Rage, Religion, and Rejection
26:40 What Happens When You Start Saying No
32:14 Grieving Who You Used to Be
36:59 The Rebuild: Boundaries, Healing, and a New Kind of Success
41:46 How to Love Someone Who’s Falling Apart
47:18 Being Seen and Loved in the Middle of the Mess

We all know we’re going to die. So why do we live like we have unlimited time?

In this episode, author and life design coach Jodi Wellman joins Alice to talk about the surprising power of using your mortality as a motivator for living a bigger, bolder life. Jodi shares how rejection, boredom, and “just fine” living are often symptoms of a life stuck in autopilot—and how death can wake us up to the urgency of now.

From the “stapler moment” that made Jodi realize she was stuck in a corporate loop she didn’t want, to the mindset shift that helped her trade regret for action, this is a conversation about the kind of clarity that only comes when you confront the one truth we’re all avoiding: our time is running out.

If you’ve been postponing joy, waiting to feel ready, or secretly wondering if this is all there is—this episode is for you.

Resources & Links:

📘 Order Jodi’s Book: You Only Die Once, https://www.amazon.com/You-Only-Die-Once-Regrets/dp/0316574279

🌐 Learn more about Jodi’s work:
https://www.fourthousandmondays.com/

Chapters:

00:00 The Moment Jodi Realized She Was Sleepwalking Through Life
06:45 Refilling the Stapler—and Other Signs You’re Playing It Safe
11:33 Death as a Productivity Tool
16:58 Why Rejection Is Better Than Regret
23:40 How to Stop Waiting to Feel Ready
30:22 The “Monday Countdown” That Will Change Your Perspective
36:50 Designing a Life That Feels Fully Alive
42:14 Jodi’s Final Question: What Would You Do If You Knew You Were Dying?

What happens when you reach the next level—and feel worse, not better?

In this episode, confidence coach and podcast host Nicole Kalil shares the story of climbing the corporate ladder, earning the promotion she thought she wanted… and realizing she was completely misaligned with the life she was building.

We talk about what it’s like to have external success and internal disconnection, why so many women feel like frauds in rooms they worked hard to enter, and how Nicole began untangling her identity from titles, praise, and other people’s expectations.

This episode is for anyone who’s ever thought, “If I’m doing everything right, why does it still feel wrong?”

Links

This is Women's Work Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-is-womans-work-with-nicole-kalil/id1493225373

Nicole's website: https://nicolekalil.com/

Order Nicole's book, Validation Is For Parking: https://www.amazon.com/Validation-Parking-Women-Beat-Confidence/dp/1544532695

Chapters

00:00 Introduction & Confidence vs. Appearance
03:27 Why Success Didn’t Feel Like Success
07:53 The Breaking Point After Her Promotion
10:01 The Messy Middle of Rebuilding Confidence
14:20 Defining Confidence as Internal Trust
18:42 From Achievement Addiction to Alignment
23:50 Rejection Sensitivity and People-Pleasing
27:33 The Book Launch Disaster: A Meltdown Moment
32:00 The Invisible Rejections of Publishing
36:51 Why She Doesn’t Lead With “Author”
39:13 Writing a Book = Birthing a Business Baby
42:23 How the Book Changed Her Business
47:22 Social Media, Comparison & Mental Health
50:44 Quitting Instagram—and What Happened Next
53:13 The Podcast as Her Most Authentic Platform
56:11 The “Secret Society” of Top Podcasters
59:42 Does the Podcast Make Money? (And Why She Keeps Going)
1:02:31 How to Find Nicole & What to Do Next

What happens when everything you’ve worked for starts to feel misaligned—but you’re too successful to quit and too scared to stay?

In this episode, Kelli Thompson, leadership coach and author of Closing the Confidence Gap, returns to the show to talk about the messy middle—what she calls the “Poop Soup” phase—when clarity hasn’t arrived, but your gut already knows it’s time for change.

Kelli shares the story of her own career pivot, the rejection that woke her up, and the internal unraveling that followed. We talk about why doubt is a feature, not a flaw, how to recognize the difference between fear and dread, and why some of the most important decisions in life come down to choosing peace over resentment.

If you’re stuck in limbo, secretly fantasizing about burning it all down, or waiting for someone to give you permission—this episode is for you.

Resources & Links:

📘 Kelli’s book, Closing the Confidence Gap
https://www.amazon.com/Closing-Confidence-Gap-Potential-Paycheck/dp/1637554206

🎙 More from Kelli Thompson
https://www.kelliraethompson.com/

📧 Grab Kelli's success toolkit
https://kelliraethompson.myflodesk.com/

Chapters:

00:00 The Rejection That Sparked a Career Change
06:18 What “Poop Soup” Feels Like
12:40 When Confidence Isn’t the Problem—Clarity Is
17:33 Choosing Peace Over Resentment
23:59 The Danger of But-First Thinking
31:21 What Happens When You Wait Too Long
38:05 Kelli’s Rule for Making Hard Decisions
42:47 Why Doubt Is a Sign of Growth
48:20 The Aftermath of Walking Away

Why did so many of us grow up believing we were too loud, too hairy, too much?

In this episode, journalist, author, and personal essayist Iman Hariri-Kia joins Alice to unpack how early media shaped our shame—and how she’s spent her adult life writing herself out of it. From reading Cosmo and Seventeen at an age when she barely understood her own body, to publishing her debut novel and watching it become eerily prophetic, Iman shares what it means to unlearn cultural conditioning, take up space on your own terms, and write the stories you never saw growing up.

They talk about beauty, desirability, being “passable,” and the exhausting performance of palatability. Iman opens up about how her work in personal essays helped her process identity shame—and how it also left her overexposed and burned out.

This episode is for anyone who’s ever felt unseen, unchosen, or forced to shrink themselves just to belong.

Links & Resources:

📚 Read Iman’s debut novel, A Hundred Other Girls: https://www.amazon.com/Hundred-Other-Girls-Novel/dp/1728247950/

📚 Read Iman's sophomore novel, The Most Famous Girl in the World: https://www.amazon.com/Most-Famous-Girl-World-Novel/dp/1728270618/

📝 Follow Iman on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/imanharirikia/

📰 More of Iman’s writing:
https://www.imanharirikia.com/

Chapters:

00:00 The Shame We Inherited From Teen Magazines
06:40 When Representation Still Centers Whiteness
10:15 Trying to Be Passable—and The Cost of It
13:33 Writing as a Way to Reclaim Power
17:55 Personal Essays, Parasocial Fatigue, and Overexposure
23:44 From Cultural Shame to Public Voice
27:52 The Scam Economy and Who We Forgive
31:20 On Writing a Novel That Became Uncomfortably Real
35:05 Rejection, Resilience, and Starting Over in Publishing

What do you do when business slows down, your confidence wavers, and you're tempted to disappear?

In this solo episode, Alice gets real about what it looks like to keep showing up in uncertain time, not because things feel easy or clear, but because she’s learned how to minimize regret, even when momentum stalls.

She shares the mental tug-of-war between self-protection and putting yourself out there, how internal rejection creeps in when you're not paying attention, and the one mindset shift that helps her stay in motion, even when fear tells her to pause everything.

If you’re wondering whether it’s worth it to keep showing up, this episode is for you.

In This Episode, Alice Covers:

• The invisible cost of hiding when things feel hard

• Why perfectionism is just rejection in disguise

• The regret minimization strategy she uses in business (and life)

• The power of internal rejection—and how to spot it before it stalls you

• How to get back in motion when everything feels uncertain

  Questions to ask yourself before hitting pause

What does it actually mean when someone cuts off their family — and why does family estrangement provoke such intense reactions from the outside world?

In this short solo episode, Alice uses the recent public fallout involving Brooklyn Beckham, David Beckham, and Victoria Beckham as a cultural moment to explore family rejection and estrangement, one of the most misunderstood — and stigmatized — forms of rejection.

Rather than speculating about who is right or wrong in the Beckham situation, Alice explains why public stories about family conflict are almost always incomplete. She unpacks why family estrangement in adulthood can be both a necessary act of self-protection and an emotionally devastating loss — and why outsiders often rush to assign blame when an adult child cuts contact with their parents.

Drawing directly from Psychology Today research, this episode breaks down what family estrangement actually is, why adult children most often initiate it, and why it’s frequently confused with family alienation or scapegoating. Alice also explores why family estrangement stories — especially high-profile ones like the Brooklyn Beckham situation — trigger such strong emotional reactions, moral judgments, and assumptions about loyalty.

In this episode, Alice explains:

• What family estrangement really means, based on psychological research

• Why estrangement usually unfolds slowly over years, not suddenly or impulsively

• The most common reasons adult children experience family rejection, including emotional abuse, neglect, and clashes of values

• The difference between family estrangement and family alienation — and why black-and-white thinking can signal unresolved harm rather than clarity

• Why family estrangement carries so much stigma, shame, and social judgment

• What research shows about how long family estrangement typically lasts, and why reconciliation isn’t always possible — or healthy

• Why people are so uncomfortable with the idea that someone might need distance from their family to protect their mental health

Alice also addresses why public speculation about the Brooklyn Beckham feud — including assumptions about control, loyalty, and marriage — reflects broader cultural discomfort with family estrangement and rejection trauma, rather than any real understanding of what happens behind closed doors.

This episode is not about celebrity gossip.
It’s about family estrangement, rejection, boundaries, and the psychological toll of being misunderstood when the people who are supposed to love you become unsafe.

If you’ve ever struggled to understand why someone would estrange themselves from their family — or if you’ve lived through family rejection and felt judged, dismissed, or forced to justify your decision — this episode offers clarity without blame.

Resources mentioned:

Psychology Today — Family Estrangement (Reviewed by Psychology Today Staff)
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/family-dynamics/family-estrangement

Fern Schumer Chapman, What Research Tells Us About Family Estrangement (2024)
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/brothers-sisters-strangers/202402/statistics-that-tell-the-story-of-family-estrangement

Calling Home podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/calling-home-with-whitney-goodman-lmft/id1706820976

Chapters:

00:00 Why the Brooklyn Beckham Story Triggered Such a Strong Reaction
02:00 Why We Don’t Actually Know What’s Happening Inside That Family
04:00 What Family Estrangement Is — and What It Isn’t
06:00 Why Adult Children Cut Off Parents
08:00 Estrangement vs. Alienation: Complexity vs. Black-and-White Thinking
10:30 Why Family Estrangement Is So Stigmatized
13:00 How Long Estrangement Lasts — and Whether Reconciliation Is Possible
15:00 Final Thoughts: Why Family Rejection Is One of the Hardest Losses to Explain

What happens when you're known for helping people feel seen—but suddenly, you're the one being misunderstood?

In this episode, therapist and bestselling author Whitney Goodman joins Alice to talk about the emotional labor of being visible online, the backlash that followed her viral posts, and how she’s built resilience without losing authenticity. But this conversation goes far beyond internet culture.

They unpack the hidden costs of toxic positivity, how emotional suppression shows up in our daily lives, what denial really feels like inside a family system, and why we need better tools for handling discomfort. Whitney also shares her most personal rejection stories—from being publicly “dragged” to quietly questioning whether she could keep showing up.

Whether you're navigating rejection, burnout, visibility, or vulnerability—this episode is packed with honesty, nuance, and relief.

Resources & Links

Order Whitney’s Book

Toxic Positivity: Keeping It Real in a World Obsessed with Being Happy amazon.com/Toxic-Positivity-Keeping-World-Obsessed/dp/0593542754/

Join Whitney’s Community
Calling Home: https://www.callinghome.co

Follow Whitney Online
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sitwithwhit
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@whitneygoodmanlmft

Chapters

00:00 The Hidden Rejection of Being Misunderstood
02:27 Why We Reach for Positivity in the Wrong Moments
06:32 “Everything Happens for a Reason” and Other Harmful Messages
12:14 Toxic Positivity as a Coping Strategy
18:52 How Emotional Suppression Becomes Exhausting
22:57 The False Comfort of Certainty
28:11 What It’s Like to Be Misunderstood by Thousands
35:50 The First Time Whitney Got Dragged Online
41:57 Her Relationship With Rejection Today
48:33 How She Keeps Showing Up Anyway