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In Part Two of our discussion of The Eyes of Laura Mars (1978), Bill and Kevin are joined by Ben Schneider from Reel Beans Podcast, and finally get into the movie itself. As part of the continuing American Giallo series, they walk through the plot, dig into the production and behind-the-scenes history, and see whether the Catholic reviews from Part One actually hold any weight.

The crew goes over Faye Dunaway’s performance, Tommy Lee Jones' moralizing detective, the film’s strange blend of murder mystery and 1970s thriller, and the Helmut Newton fashion photography at the center of it all. The crew digs into what the movie might be saying about advertising, voyeurism, Capitalism, and the exploitation of women’s bodies. Is The Eyes of Laura Mars really just sleazy sexploitation ala Helmut Newton and Studio 54, or is there a more interesting argument buried underneath the pile of bodies and haute couture?

Were the Catholic reviewers onto something in their critiques, or were they totally off base? Did some of the reviewers get it, or at LEAST seem to grasp part of its meaning? Tune in (are we still saying that in the streaming era?) to find out!

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Bill and Kevin are back with another installment in the American Giallo series, and this time we’re staring directly into The Eyes of Laura Mars (1978) with Ben Schneider from Reel Beans Podcast. In Part One, the guys dig through the Catholic reviews and internal memoranda on Irvin Kershner’s Faye Dunaway thriller, and apparently the “Catholics” had some thoughts. One reviewer dismissed the movie as “twaddle,” another wrote it off as grocery store schlock, and then there’s the surprisingly thoughtful review from one B.F. Dick. Yes...that's actually his name.

We also get into the bizarre screenwriting history behind The Eyes of Laura Mars, including the long-running rumors about Italian screenwriter Ernesto Gastaldi’s involvement, and talk about Faye Dunaway’s absolutely killer run of movies leading up to this one. Along the way, we look at the film as a piece of American Giallo, the Catholic obsession with sex and violence on screen, and the strange path this very strange movie took from hands of John Carpenter, to the Eyes of Laura Mars.

Check out episode one, and definitely come back for a deep dive into the movie and behind the scenes tidits in episode two.

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Since the Spooky Season is upon us, and we've gained a LOT of new listeners over the summer, we decided to restore one of our best early episodes, which unfortunately experienced technical difficulties during the recording process. Our Exorcist episode was famously interrupted by demons that got into our recording gear and caused a host of tech issues (or so the TikTok Exorcists tell us). As a result, we were never fully happy with the finished product. Now, armed with the very same technology used to restore John Gielgud's big speech in Caligula, we have improved the audio as best we could, given our time and budget. We didn't expect miracles, but we are much happier with the overall sound of this episode, and it really helps the content shine in the way we initially intended.

Summary: It shouldn't be surprising that an episode about William Friedkin's The Exorcist would be plagued with technical problems (if you believe in that kind of thing) but the episode is finally live! Cisco makes Bill watch a film that he has put off seeing for years, due to a deep-seated fear of the devil and the demonic. Bill gives his first reactions, and the guys get into the post-Exorcist panic over demons (and consequent spike in exorcisms in the US), the increase in the number of Exorcists in the US, and the film's troubled production. Tangents include why Bill has never played Dungeons and Dragons, Hot priests, New Age synth music as gateway to the devil, the actual Pope's Exorcist, and irrational Catholic fears over yoga.

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Bill and Jess continue their American Giallo series with Cisco Scartozzi for the second half of Brian De Palma’s Body Double (1984). Once again, Cisco is playing defense for De Palma, and Jess is dissecting some of the less savory subtexts within his films. This time, we dig into the behind-the-scenes stories surrounding the film’s second half, including the casting of Melanie Griffith, De Palma’s obsession with the Hitchcock blonde, and the unexpected Frankie Goes to Hollywood music video that splits the movie in half.

We also get into the movie’s wildly uneven tone, its mix of erotic thriller, horror, satire, and whether all those competing ideas ultimately work. Despite its shortcomings, there’s plenty to unpack in Body Double, from its elaborate set pieces and technical filmmaking to the strange collection of ideas that make it such a memorable entry in the American Giallo series.

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Do you like dirty movies? Did you grow up Catholic? Did you not grow up Catholic, but dislike censorship? Are you passionate about the history of film? Do you enjoy discussing film in the context of the past as well as modern social issues? Do you enjoy hearing weird personal anecdotes about DIY Exorcisms, being condemned by your own parents, or having your entire high school banned from a cathedral? Are you looking for a film podcast made by a bunch of native midwesterners who unironically use the word "Ope"? Then, this podcast MAY be for you!

In this episode of Morally Offensive, Bill and Jess are joined by former co-host Cisco Scartozzi to take on Brian De Palma’s Body Double (1984), a voyeuristic erotic reimagining of Vertigo packed with Hitchcock references, murder, sex, bright red blood, and some of De Palma’s most controversial ideas about the male gaze, desire, and women.

We read the Catholic condemned review of Body Double and dig into De Palma’s career, his obsession with Hitchcock, and the ongoing debate over his treatment and sexualization of violence against women. Jess is firmly anti-De Palma, with Carrie as the notable exception. Cisco comes ready to defend De Palma, while Bill plays referee in a heated debate about the nature of sex and violence onscreen.

We also discuss De Palma putting his foot in his mouth during interviews, Jake Scully getting cucked, the cinematic legacy of driller killers, LA's famed Chemosphere house, Hitchcock's bounced check movie "Under Capricorn", and, naturally, putting onions on hot dogs. With three hosts in one room, it's a sweatbox of an episode, where the crew heatedly debates the merits of DePalma's desire to push the mainstream erotic thriller as far as the ratings board would let it.

In Part 2 of Morally Offensive’s deep dive into Alice, Sweet Alice (1976), Bill and the gang look beyond the film’s Catholic imagery to examine director Alfred Sole’s career and the real-world religious and psychological ideas lurking beneath the movie’s murders, masks, and First Communion.

The episode explores Sole’s two later feature films and his career as a production designer, before turning back to the film’s depiction of Catholicism and mental health. The discussion digs into the Catholic fear of therapy and the recurring cultural idea that confession can serve as a substitute for psychological care. The hosts also tackle excommunication and ask whether the extreme punishment actually makes sense within Catholic theology given the film’s known acts of mortal sin.

From there, the conversation gets into religious psychosis, scrupulosity, and the ways high-control religious environments can affect people who struggle with ADHD, OCD, and other disabilities. The hosts discuss how an obsessive focus on religious rules and sin can come at the expense of a person’s psychological and physical well-being.

Part 2 of Alice, Sweet Alice takes the film’s Catholic horror seriously, asking where religious devotion ends, where psychological distress begins, and what happens when the two become impossible to separate.

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In Part One of their two-part deep dive into Alfred Sole’s Alice, Sweet Alice (1976), Bill and Kevin are joined by Janecka Deer of Scream Queen Podcast to explore a now-classic Catholic adjacent horror films of the 1970s.

Set in Paterson, New Jersey, in 1961, Alice, Sweet Alice follows twelve-year-old Alice Spages as her younger sister Karen prepares for her First Communion. When Karen is murdered, a mysterious figure in a translucent mask sets off a disturbing mystery involving childhood, first communion, puberty, family dysfunction, and violence.

Bill, Kevin, and Janecka dig into the film’s religious imagery, First Communion iconography, grimy 1960s setting, Brooke Shields’ early role, Paula Sheppard’s unsettling performance, and Sole’s distinctive approach to horror.

The discussion also looks back at Sole’s controversial debut, Deep Sleep, which attracted Catholic criticism, the FBI, and got the director excommunicated from the church. While Alice, Sweet Alice had no Catholic reviews of its own, Sole’s history with Catholic censors provides important context for this strange and provocative piece of American horror.

And this is only the beginning. Part Two takes the investigation through the rest of Alice, Sweet Alice.

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This week on Morally Offensive, past guest Ophelia Crane returns for Pretty Maids All in a Row (1971), Roger Vadim’s deeply unpleasant high school sex comedy/murder mystery, written by Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry. We ask the question: Why does Quentin Tarantino LOVE this movie?

We get into Roger Vadim’s sleazy history, Roddenberry’s involvement and our subsequent ruining of Star Trek for ourselves, the curious casting of Rock Hudson, and Angie Dickinson shedding her Police Woman uniform. Or is it Lady Cop? Woman Cop!? Cop Woman!? Plus: Telly Savalas, every 1971 auntie's favorite sex symbol (evidently).

There’s a lot more going on in Pretty Maids All in a Row than its swinging ’70s exterior suggests, and watching it in 2026 makes some of its choices land particularly badly. The film offended secular and religious audiences when it first came out, but it feels particularly disturbing and irresponsible in a post-Epstein Files world. We hated this movie on just about every level, and oddly found ourselves often agreeing with the Catholic censors and reviewers.

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In Part 2 of Morally Offensive’s American Giallo deep dive into Brian De Palma’s Dressed to Kill (1980), Bill, Jess, and Ava Davis get into the cast, production, infamous shower scene, and the choices that made Dressed to Kill one of the most controversial films of Brian De Palma’s career. The discussion looks at the film’s place between Italian giallo, Hitchcockian thriller, erotic thriller, and American horror, while taking a closer look at what has and has not aged well in De Palma’s most provocative work.

The episode examines the controversial use of Victoria Lynn Johnson as Angie Dickinson’s body double in the shower sequence, the making of Dressed to Kill, and De Palma’s decision to double down on the film’s transgender themes, or what we would now recognize as its portrayal of transgender identity. The conversation also digs into the film’s technical craft, from De Palma’s elaborate camera movements, split screens, POV shots, Hitchcock references, and elaborate set pieces to Pino Donaggio’s extraordinary and unmistakable score. Bill makes the case for the formal brilliance of Dressed to Kill, while Jess and Ava argue that its troubling representation of transgender identity, uneven filmmaking, and exploitation of its own controversial themes make the film increasingly difficult to defend. Is Dressed to Kill a great American Giallo? A deeply flawed Brian De Palma thriller? A Hitchcock homage filtered through 1980s exploitation cinema? Or is it somehow all three at once?

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Bill and Jess are joined by filmmaker and actor Ava Davis to kick off their discussion of Brian De Palma's highly controversial film Dressed to Kill (1980). Starring Michael Caine, Angie Dickinson, Nancy Allen, and Keith Gordon, Dressed to Kill blends Hitchcockian suspense with the stylish murder mysteries of Italian giallo, helping define the American Giallo movement while becoming one of the most influential psychological thrillers of the 1980s. Upon its release, the film ignited fierce debate over violence, sexuality, gender, artistic freedom, and censorship, and more than four decades later it remains one of Brian De Palma's most celebrated and polarizing films.

For the first time, Morally Offensive draws from previously unexplored material in the National Center for the Study of Censorship and the Moving Image (NCOMP) archives at the Catholic University of America. These archival files reveal how Catholic critics reacted to Dressed to Kill in real time, including surprisingly candid reviews, pointed disagreements with mainstream critics, and one especially memorable attack aimed at legendary film critic Pauline Kael. Along the way, Bill, Jess, and Ava explore Brian De Palma's Catholic upbringing, Alfred Hitchcock's influence on his filmmaking, the film's place within the American Giallo tradition, how Dressed to Kill has aged in light of modern conversations about transgender representation in cinema, and its enduring influence on horror, thrillers, and contemporary filmmakers.

Featuring exclusive archival research from the Catholic University of America, this episode examines Dressed to Kill through the lenses of film history, Catholic censorship, American Giallo, and modern cultural criticism, uncovering why Brian De Palma's controversial masterpiece continues to inspire debate more than forty years after its release.

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Bill and Kevin are joined once again by Milwaukee journalist Michail Takach to conclude their discussion of American Gigolo (1980), the first film in the American Giallo series.

The conversation covers the film's second half, from Julian Kaye's downfall to its quietly redemptive ending. Bill argues that Paul Schrader's screenplay, informed by the filmmaker's strict Calvinist upbringing in rural Michigan and the spiritual questions that run throughout his work, ultimately tells a deeply Christian—and even distinctly Catholic—story of grace, redemption, and transformation. Drawing comparisons to Robert Bresson's Pickpocket, the hosts revisit the Catholic reviews discussed in Part One and make the case that the film's theological undercurrents are richer than its Catholic critics gave it credit for. Along the way, they discuss Richard Gere's star-making performance, Lauren Hutton, Héctor Elizondo, and the supporting cast, examining the performances and creative choices that have helped American Gigolo endure.

Michail also shares his personal experiences at Los Angeles's legendary Probe nightclub, one of the clubs that helped define the city's late 1970s nightlife and inspired the world of American Gigolo. The episode closes with a discussion of American Gigolo as a critique of the Baby Boomers' "Me Generation," exploring how Schrader's portrait of image, wealth, and self-invention anticipated the hollow materialism that would come to define much of the 1980s.

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Bill and Kevin kick off a brand new season of Morally Offensive with American Giallo, a series exploring American thrillers from the 1970s through the 1990s that borrow the style, themes, and visual language of Italy's legendary giallo films.

Their first stop is American Gigolo (1980), Paul Schrader's sleek and controversial neo-noir starring Richard Gere in the role that transformed him into an international star. Joining them is Milwaukee journalist and LGBTQ historian Michail Takach to examine how the film blends erotic thriller, crime drama, psychological character study, and high fashion into one of the defining American films of the early 1980s.

The conversation explores Schrader's Calvinist worldview, Giorgio Moroder's groundbreaking electronic score, Dan Perri's iconic title sequence, and the turbulent behind the scenes behind Blondie's "Call Me." Along the way, Bill, Kevin, and Michail discuss how this film announced the style of the 1980s, the influence of Italian giallo on American filmmaking, masculinity, rampant consumerism, the cocaine hangover from the sexual revolution and the disco era homophobia in film, and why American Gigolo remains one of the most stylish, influential, and misunderstood neo-noirs ever made. Diversions include Giorgio Moroder eating chicken, Chevy Chase almost being offered the lead role, the worst Catholic review we've found so far, and the man who got rich off a fake autobiography of Howard Hughes. We also discuss the fact that Pretty Woman and American Gigolo are perfect bookends to the Reagan 80s, and even float our conspiracy theories about the films taking place in the same universe.

Whether you're a fan of Paul Schrader, Richard Gere, Italian giallo, neo-noir, erotic thrillers, film history, cult cinema, or classic 1980s movies, this episode launches our American Giallo series by tracing the DNA between European genre cinema and the American thrillers it inspired.

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Bill and Stephanie are joined once again by author and screenwriter J. Patrick Hanley for part two of their discussion of Abel Ferrara's Ms. 45 (1981), the controversial cult classic revenge thriller starring Zoë Tamerlis Lund. This episode focuses on the film's second and third acts as Thana evolves from a traumatized garment worker into one of the most infamous vigilante figures in 80s exploitation cinema. The conversation explores Thana's origin story as a female vigilante, and how Ms. 45 fits within the rape-revenge subgenre alongside other landmark exploitation and horror films of the 1970s and 1980s. 

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Bill and Stephanie are joined by author and screenwriter J. Patrick Hanley to discuss cradle Catholic Abel Ferrara's cult classic Ms. 45 (1981), one of the most controversial, influential, and widely debated revenge films of the 1980s.

The conversation explores the film's place in New York exploitation cinema, Ferrara's early career, and the unforgettable performance by Zoë Tamerlis Lund as Thana, a mute garment worker whose life is shattered by violence and her autonomy reclaimed through bloody revenge. Patrick, Bill, and Stephanie dig into what makes Ms. 45 so unsettling decades later: its refusal to offer easy catharsis, its grim portrait of urban alienation, and the way Ferrara blurs the line between exploitation filmmaking and social commentary. They also wrestle with the film's competing readings as both a feminist statement and a provocative grindhouse revenge fantasy, examining why audiences continue to debate its intentions and legacy.

Along the way, they unpack the film's connection to the rape-revenge subgenre, Ferrara's filmography's place in the broader context of genre and exploitation cinema. The group discusses how Ms. 45 helped cement Ferrara's reputation as one of American cinema's most provocative and haunted cradle Catholic directors, while exploring the film's lasting influence on horror, thriller, and revenge movies that followed.

The conversation also dives into Lund's fascinating life and career, Ferrara's recurring Catholic themes of sin, guilt, judgment, and redemption. More than forty years after its release, Ms. 45 remains a lightning rod for debates about exploitation cinema, it's artistic value, and whether a film which focuses on violence against women, can ultimately transcend it's own genre trappings.

Is Ms. 45 a feminist revenge story, a cult horror classic, an exploitative pile of trash, or more complicated than it's lurid promo materials?

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Co-Hosts Dr. Jess and Bill are joined again by Tif Robinette for part two of their series on The First Omen (2024), focusing on the film’s third act, religious horror themes, and connections to the larger Omen franchise.

They get into the film’s cinematography, the obvious influence of Andrzej Żuławski’s Possession, and the way director Arkasha Stevenson blends psychological horror, Catholic horror, and themes of bodily autonomy, pregnancy, and church control. The conversation also turns toward modern politics, the Antichrist as a political figure, and why certain strains of reactionary Catholicism seem less concerned with morality than with defeating secular culture at any cost.

We also spend time on the film’s treatment of abortion and reproductive control, including one of the movie’s stranger details: why exactly does a priest have an abortion doctor on speed dial?

Along the way, we get into The Omen timeline, laicized priests, Donald Trump tear-gassing Catholic nuns, and whether The Omen franchise is perhaps less Catholic and more Protestant in its worldview, given its suspicion of the Vatican and obsession with biblical apocalypse and end-times prophecy.

If you’re interested in horror movies, Catholic horror, The Omen franchise, religious conspiracy films, or the political themes behind modern horror cinema, this episode is for you.

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Bill and Jess are joined by horror author and screenwriter Tif Robinette for the first of a two part discussion on The First Omen. What starts as a conversation about the newest entry in the Omen franchise turns into a much larger discussion about Italy in the 1970s, institutional power, the antichrist, apocalypse, conspirituality, and what this films does to differentiate itself, while still being part of an iconic horror franchise.

The episode covers the Years of Lead and the atmosphere of political violence hanging over the period the film is trying to recreate, along with discussions of mother and baby homes, bodily autonomy, and the way the film approaches pregnancy and body horror. 

Bill spends part of the episode derailing the conversation into a rant about Italy’s beat nightclub era, the cultural shift into Disco (and later on Italo Disco) while going through the needle drops in the film, which cover very different eras of Italian nightlife. The episode also looks at the movie’s visual style, its use of Catholic imagery, and why it feels closer to European horror filmmaking than most modern studio horror releases.

Part one focuses on a Catholic review from our favourite "Morally Offensive" critic John Mulderig from OSV News (the latest incarnation of the USCCB film rankings), why we can't help making fun of John's insistence on calling the young women in the film "tarts", and the the historical and cultural backdrop surrounding the film. The upcoming second episode will move further into the franchise, production history, and the larger themes running through the series.

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Bill and Stephanie are joined once again by returning guest Christopher Hoppe, previously heard on the show’s Stigmata episode, to discuss the notorious 1979 nunsploitation film Killer Nun starring Anita Ekberg and Joe Dallesandro. Inspired by a real, true crime case, the film follows Sister Gertrude, a morphine dependent nun whose grip on reality steadily collapses inside a convent hospital.

The episode covers the strange intersection of Catholic imagery, Italian exploitation cinema, psychological horror, and late 1970s grindhouse filmmaking, along with Anita Ekberg’s career after La Dolce Vita and the larger wave of controversial religious horror films coming out of Italy at the time.

Stephanie, however, barely made it through the movie. About ten minutes in, the dentures scene had her exiting the screening room, leaving Bill and Christopher to continue through the film’s murders, hallucinations, casual hookups, elder abuse, ludicrous nude scenes, and drug abuse.

We're also discussing cult cinema, giallo films, actors in political exile,  nunsploitation, Catholicism, and one of the more notorious entries in 1970s Italian horror.

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In Part II, Bill and Stephanie get into the plot of Benedetta, and break down the story, the performances, and why this film stirred up so much controversy around Catholic mysticism, sainthood, visions, and miracles. They are once again joined by co-host of the Leave, Laugh, Love Podcast, Veronica Novotny, who once contemplated convent life.

In this episode, the three address Benedetta’s ecstatic visions, the plague backdrop of the film, they address THAT Virgin Mary statue, and ask whether or not the Pear of Anguish was actually a commonly used torture device during the witch trial and heretic burning era of the Reformation and Counter-Reformation. 

There’s also a closer look at Paul Verhoeven and his career, including Basic Instinct, Showgirls, RoboCop, and Flesh and Blood, and his surprsing side gig as a Jesus expert.

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Bill and Stephanie are joined by Veronica (Leave, Laugh, Love) to talk about Benedetta—starting with her own experience discerning religious life, and the moment that path ended when she was denied entry to a convent because she’s a lesbian.

From there, the conversation moves through fundamentalist Catholic spaces and the charismatic movement, touching on ideas like vocation, discernment, religious orders, and what it actually means to be “called” in a system with hard boundaries.

We also get into the reaction to Benedetta, including a harsh condemnation from Tradition, Family, Property and a more favorable take that approaches the film on its own terms.

Along the way, we set the stage for Part II with some context on director Paul Verhoeven—known for films like Basic Instinct, Showgirls, and RoboCop—and why a movie about Catholic mysticism, sainthood, and alleged miracles was always going to land exactly where it did: somewhere between serious religious drama and total controversy.

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This week on Morally Offensive, Bill, Jess, and special guest Syd King dive into The Little Hours—a medieval comedy where the nuns are anything but devout. Set in a 14th-century convent, the film follows a group of wildly unrestrained sisters who drink, swear, and terrorize the local help…until a fugitive posing as a deaf-mute handyman shows up and turns everything sideways.

What starts as a chaotic character study quickly spirals into a mix of lust, power plays, religious hypocrisy, and naked dancing in the woods. Along the way, the crew unpacks how the film pulls from The Decameron, why its anachronistic dialogue actually works, and how it gleefully pokes at the idea of holiness without completely dismissing it.

Tangents include youth pastors telling us we'd go to hell if we died in a car crash, that time Jess' classmates terrorized and vandalized Holy Hill Basilica, TMI Catholic confessions about your sex life, campus ministers on the run from the law, and Syd's proximity to Ryan Gosling on Saturday Night Live.

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This week, Bill and Jess are joined by comedian, actor, and writer Syd King to talk The Little Hours—a movie where nuns drink too much, swear constantly, and ignore basically every rule they’re supposed to follow. Loosely based on The Decameron, it’s equal parts historical weirdness and modern comedy. We get into the Catholic angle, the controversy (or lack of it), and why this kind of story keeps coming back. 

In episode one, find out why Bill Donahue called the movie "Pure Trash", why a fringe Catholic Cult protested the movie (with bagpipes!), discover the existence of a creepy Catholic nun doll museum in northern Michigan, Jess finds out about "The Shack", and Bill reviews the hot dog menu from The Gay Bar in Gay, Michigan.

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In Part 2 of Jesus Christ Superstar (1973), we get into what happens when Jesus stops being a mere prophet, and is named "king" by his followers. Bill, Kevin and guest Orion Couling talk fame, ego, pressure, and why nobody in this movie seems to have a handle on what’s a-happenin' (including Jesus).

Diversions include: stealing from David Brubeck, why the Apostles have a Hobbit problem, what you would buy with your 30 pieces of silver, and St. Peter actor Paul Thomas' storied adult film career post-JC Superstar.

This is another episode in our Filthy Habits series, which will return to focus on Nunsploitation next week, with an episode on The Little Hours.

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Jesus Christ Superstar is the musical that dared to ask: "What if the Gospels...but hippies?"

This week on Morally Offensive, Bill and Kevin are joined by actor, filmmaker, ghost tour guide (and former Judas) Orion Couling to break down Jesus Christ Superstar (1973). Along the way, expect some truly off-key singing as we dive into one of the most controversial religious films ever made.

We read through Catholic reactions ranging from outright condemnation to surprising praise, including claims that even the Pope was a fan, and unpack what made the film so divisive. Then we explore the fascinating history behind director Norman Jewison and the cast, pushing back on the idea that Jewison was simply a journeyman director and making the case for him as a true auteur.

Diversions include growing up Catholic on Dr. Dobson and Focus on the Family, DC Talk's "Nirvana" phase, Bill and Orion's time served on the Edmund Fitzgerald, and that one time Kevin got crucified on stage.

If you’re interested in Jesus Christ Superstar, religious film controversy, Catholic reviews, or the legacy of Norman Jewison, this episode digs into how a rock opera about Jesus became a cultural lightning rod.

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Bill and Jess continue their two part deep dive into the classic film Black Narcissus (1947) as part of the new Morally Offensive series Filthy Habits. Joining them, once again, is film director Dalila Droege (No More Time).

In part two - they discuss the film’s back half, where everything starts to come apart. Sister Clodagh (Deborah Kerr) loses her grip on the order, while Sister Ruth (Kathleen Byron) finds her commitment to her vocation quickly disintegrating. The crew and their guest discuss Byron’s performance and how it reads today, especially in the context of dated portrayals of mental health and the long history of women on screen being framed as unstable or hysterical. What may have once felt intense now lands differently, and that tension becomes part of the conversation.

We also look at how Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger, working as The Archers, use color, design, and stylization to mirror the characters’ unraveling. The result is a film that’s as striking as it is uncomfortable, especially in how it handles desire, repression, and collapse.

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Bill and Jess begin a two part deep dive into the classic film Black Narcissus (1947) as part of the Morally Offensive series Filthy Habits, where the show examines religion, repression, and scandal in films about nuns and clergy. Joining them is film director Dalila Droege to help unpack one of the most visually stunning and psychologically intense films of the 1940s.

This episode also introduces a new format for the show. Before diving into the movie itself, the hosts examine Catholic reactions and reviews of Black Narcissus. Religious critics have long been divided about the film’s themes of temptation, vocation, and spiritual crisis, and those responses reveal a lot about how the movie has been interpreted by faith communities over the decades.

In Part One, the discussion focuses on Act I of the film. The panel explores the arrival of the Anglican nuns at a remote Himalayan palace that is being converted into a convent, the unsettling atmosphere of the mountain setting, and the early hints of emotional and spiritual tension that begin to emerge within the mission. Bill, Jess, and Dalila also discuss the filmmaking of Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger, the performances that made the film legendary, and why Black Narcissus remains one of the most provocative and talked about “nun movies” ever made.

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In this episode of Morally Offensive, Bill and Jess are joined by horror author Ophelia Crane to dig into the Oscar-nominated film Sinners—and the very different reactions it’s sparked. The trio wades into Catholic reviews of the movie and what they reveal about how religious critics approach controversial art, while also exploring the film’s bigger ideas about religion, colonization, and the long history of cultures borrowing—sometimes stealing—stories, music, and folklore.

Along the way, the conversation touches on Catholic film criticism, horror traditions, cultural ownership, and the strange moment when theology collides with awards season. It’s a lively, occasionally irreverent discussion about one of the year’s most talked-about films.

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In this episode of Morally Offensive, co-hosts Bill and Stephanie continue their series on X-rated films with Stanley Kubrick’s A Clockwork Orange. Originally released with an X rating, the film remains one of the most controversial titles in cinema history, raising enduring questions about violence, free will, censorship, and state power.

Guest John Enroth, composer (Regular Show, Interior Chinatown), joins the discussion to examine Wendy Carlos’s electronic score, Kubrick’s use of Beethoven, and the role of music as psychological control and moral irony.

The episode places A Clockwork Orange within the history of the MPAA ratings system, film censorship, and controversial cinema of the 1970s, asking whether Kubrick critiques violence or deliberately refuses moral resolution. And of course, it DID receive the dreaded "C" rating from "The Catholics".

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Beyond the Valley of the Dolls (1970) is an X-rated studio film written by Roger Ebert, directed by Russ Meyer, and still more culturally radioactive than most modern movies. So we had to talk about it.

This week on Morally Offensive, the ex-Catholic hosts are joined by Matt Harding of Severin Films to dig into Meyer’s psychedelic cult classic and its strange place in American film history. We unpack Roger Ebert’s involvement in the script, Russ Meyer’s obsession with buxom women, and how that fixation shaped both the visual language and politics of his films.

We get into the feminist debates around Meyer’s work, the film’s relationship to 60s counterculture, and the way Beyond the Valley of the Dolls became a cultural reference point for everything from Sublime lyrics to Austin Powers parody. We also go on a side quest through Catholic film criticism, breaking down a period review that condemned this movie while praising the morality of Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, which somehow manages to be more disturbing in its own way.

If you’re into film history, cult cinema, Catholic moral panic, and movies that make everyone uncomfortable for different reasons, this episode lives right in that space.

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This week on Morally Offensive, Bill and Kevin dig into the origins and impact of John Waters’ Pink Flamingos. The crew is joined by Bryan Wendorf of the Chicago Underground Film Festival and Thomas Bottoms of Bottoms of the Barrel to trace Waters’ early years making films in Baltimore, from DIY shorts and church-basement screenings to cultivating an audience far outside the mainstream.

We break down the production of Pink Flamingos, the creation of Divine as a transgressive screen icon, and how the film’s deliberate provocation helped spark outrage, fascination, and the rise of the midnight movie phenomenon. Along the way, we discuss censorship, exhibition, and why Waters’ brand of bad taste proved so culturally disruptive, and so enduring. 

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In this Christmas episode of Morally Offensive, Jess and Bill take a deep dive into Black Christmas (1974), the landmark horror film that helped define the slasher genre several years before Halloween. Joining them is Professor Eric D. Wesselmann, who brings an academic lens to Bob Clark’s deeply unsettling and surprisingly nuanced film.

The conversation covers the film’s complex female characters, the origins of the “the call is coming from inside the house” trope, and how Roe v. Wade and second-wave feminism shaped the movie’s themes and cultural reception. 

A holiday episode about horror, depictions of disability on film, the evolution of women's rights, and why Black Christmas remains one of the most influential films of the 1970s.

This week on Morally Offensive, everybody's talking (okay its just Kevin and Bill) with singer/songwriter (and former film student) Stefanie Joyce about the ONLY X-Rated Film to win Best Picture, Midnight Cowboy. The film features a young Jon Voight as an aspiring sex worker who runs from his past in a small Texas town, toward the bright city lights of Broadway and 42nd St. While unsuccessfully attempting to get into the game, he runs into Ratso Rizzo (a young Dustin Hoffman), a small-time hustler who gets by on petty theft and squating in an abandoned apartment building.

The crew uncovers the shocking facts surrounding the film being screened at an international Cahtolic Film Festival, while simultanesouly receiving an A-IV rating (Adults with Reservations - so, not QUITE "C" or "O" - our bad). Diversions including pocketing cold cuts at swanky parties, Meat-and-Threes, Flannery O'Connor, Baby Bob Balaban, and the ongoing debate about THAT scene.

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Bill and Stephanie sit down with Thomas Negovan to discuss the restoration of Caligula: The Ultimate Cut and how he and an editor pieced the film back together. Thomas explains how they uncovered hours of never-before-seen footage and used it to assemble a version of Caligula that reflects what was originally filmed, offering a clearer look at the movie’s intended narrative.

The episode also explores Bob Guccione’s controversial attempt to reshape Caligula in the edit, the bizarre choice to make an additional R-rated release, and of course the Catholic Reviews from the time. The crew gets into film restoration, the lost footage, and how a movie’s meaning changes depending on who controls the final cut.

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Warning: This episode covers an actual adult movie, and contains discussions about graphic sexual topics.

In this episode of Morally Offensive, the first in our "X-Rated" series, we explore the cultural earthquake sparked by the 1972 film Deep Throat with special guest Mark Covino, director of the award-winning documentary A Band Called Death. We dive into the rise of 1970s “porn chic,” the collapse of the Hays Code, the creation of the X-rating, and how a low-budget film became a mainstream phenomenon seen by public figures like Jackie Onassis and Truman Capote.

We also examine the Catholic response to the mainstreaming of adult media during a period already shaped by Watergate-era anxiety. This includes a look at the Catechism’s teachings on sexual ethics—especially the debates around oral sex, where Catholics, theologians, and commentators often share conflicting interpretations.

Plus, Mark shares personal stories about his father’s life as a celebrity ski instructor and his appearance in an early project by horror icons Sean Cunningham and Wes Craven. If you're interested in film history, 1970s culture, Catholic commentary, or the intersections of media, morality, and censorship, this episode has it all.

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Stephanie and Bill head on up to the lab, to see what's on the slab...and it turns out it's The Rocky Horror Picture Show (celebrating it's 50th anniversary!), a cult classic that started as rebellion and transformed into a midnight movie ritual. With special guest props expert and technical theatre professional Jeffrey Rockey, they dig into the history of the movie that became a cultural touchstone, especially for Catholic school kids who found they didn't quite fit in.

Jeff talks coming out, Bill shares the story of how he originated the first stage role of the Captain of the Edmund Fitzgerald, and Stephanie recounts the experience of getting into Rocky Horror as a young Jewish woman. They also revisit Richard O’Brien’s problematic remarks, the Catholic media’s moral outrage, and the often-forgotten sequel Shock Treatment.

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In this episode of Morally Offensive, we revisit the 1995 cult classic Mortal Kombat, the movie that brought video game violence, bad CGI, and 90s martial arts chaos to the big screen. We dig into Catholic reviews of the film, including one that blames stuffed-crust pizza and child day planners for the future downfall of civilization.

We talk about the movie, it's place in 90s pop culture, our mutual experiences with the game series, the panic surrounding video game violence, the mammoth status of its CD soundtrack, a brief history of Belgium New Beat, and a tangent about the Wisdom Tree Christian NES Videogame knockoffs, including the classic convert-the-heathens-by-throwing-fruit Zelda ripoff, Spiritual Warfare.

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Bill and Stephanie are joined by film scholar Christopher Hoppe to unlock Sergio Martino’s Your Vice Is a Locked Room and Only I Have the Key (1972), a cornerstone of Giallo cinema, laced with gothic unease, which explores the cultural anxieties of 1970s Italy. The film follows a washed-up writer, his abused wife, and the arrival of his seductive niece, as secrets, betrayals, and murders spiral inside (and outside) a crumbling villa. Lurking over it all is the ghostly presence of the writer’s domineering mother, and watching with uncanny menace is the family’s black cat named (yes, really)...Satan.

Together, they trace how Italian Catholic film critics responded to the film, celebrate Edwige Fenech’s rise as a scream queen, and untangle Martino’s twisted adaptation of Poe’s The Black Cat. Along the way, Stephanie recounts her own chaotic Roman car ride with Martino, and the hosts dig into Italy’s sordid legal history, including the now-abolished “rehabilitating marriage” law that once allowed men accused of sexual assault to escape punishment by marrying their victims.

It’s a conversation of black gloves, black cats, household murder weapons, and only we have the key.

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This week, Bill and Stephanie drag Atlanta filmmaker Nicole Kemper into the delivery room to talk David Cronenberg’s The Brood (1979), a horror movie which doubles as the world’s worst sex-ed film. We’re talking cinematic birth control, belly-buttonless mutant murder children, slutty vintage men's bathrobes, and why men are absolutely terrified of the female body. Diversions include Oliver Reed's drunken shenanigans, an attempted cult kidnapping, the Canadian public's outrage over finding out their tax dollars were financing gorey art, and, of course, we read another Catholic review which completely disregards the artistic merits and possibilities of the horror genre. This is definitely an episode to listen to if you're still comtemplating bringing children into a violent world which is on fire. For us, the Brood proved to be far more effective than abstinence-only sex education.

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Mae West struts into the spotlight in I’m No Angel (1933), the pre-Code sensation that saved Paramount and scandalized the censors. Co-hosts Bill and Jess welcome Sara Shea of Shea Cinema to talk about Mae’s wit, sexuality, and the double entendres that made Catholic watchdogs sweat. Along the way we meet Joseph Breen and Will Hays, the moral gatekeepers who tried to rein her in, and discover how Cary Grant was launched into stardom with her assistance. From her Broadway scandal Sex (and a stint in jail) all the way to her campy swan song Sextette, we trace Mae’s career of outsmarting the men, proving why her comedy still feels dangerous today.

Bill and Cisco take a deep dive into The Pope’s Exorcist, the horror film where Russell Crowe channels his inner Super Mario Bro, and chews scenery as Father Gabriele Amorth, the wacky, self-proclaimed "Chief Exorcist" of the Vatican (he wasn't). We unpack the real Amorth’s history and his outrageous claims about what opens the door to demonic possession,- from Harry Potter books to yoga classes, from Freemasonry to the soothing music of Yanni. Along the way we compare the movie’s Hollywood exorcisms with the actual Catholic ritual, talk about the Church’s checks and balances within the practice of exorcism, critique the FACT that children and teens can be exorcised without their consent, and laugh at the over-the-top sequel setup that plays like the Pope (played by B-movie favorite Franco Nero) is putting together a ragtag team of supernatural warriors. It’s a mix of film criticism, Catholic weirdness, and irreverent comedy that only Morally Offensive could deliver. 

The wounds of Christ. A chain-smoking atheist. Gabriel Byrne as a brooding Vatican investigator in designer black. Welcome back to Hot Priest Summer.

This week on Morally Offensive, we’re going full incense-and-industrial as we revisit Stigmata; the aggressively 1999 Catholic horror film where Patricia Arquette becomes an accidental mystic and Gabriel Byrne has his faith (and sex drive) tested. It’s a heady mix of the Gospel of Thomas, the Nag Hammadi library, anti-clerical paranoia, and… Chumbawamba? 

We break down the film’s chaotic theology, its obsession with silenced gospels and Vatican coverups, and why so many ex-Catholics thought they were watching something dangerous. We also take a deeper look at the real history of stigmatics, from St. Francis of Assisi to Padre Pio, and dare to ask the question: Why was Padre Pio hoarding Carbolic acid?

Featuring a Billy Corgan-curated soundtrack, strobe-lit nightclubs, exorcisms of non-demons, and 90s fashion choices we can’t unsee, Stigmata is a movie best enjoyed with your Catholic brain turned off, and your popcorn thoroughly buttered.

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Dogma looms large in the canon of Morally Offensive films, casting a long shadow over many millennial Catholics. For those of us who were teens when it premiered, Dogma felt like the ultimate “anti Catholic” movie we were warned about, crafted by ”satanic” filmmakers from Hollywood (never mind that Smith is from New Jersey). Written and directed by Kevin Smith, it sparked national outrage and became one of the most high profile targets of Bill Donohue and the Catholic League in their crusade against media, which they viewed as attacking the Church. Starring Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Linda Fiorentino, Salma Hayek, Jason Lee, Alanis Morrisette, George Carlin, Chris Rock, Jason Mewes, Alan Rickman, and many others, Dogma is a comedic epic which has persisted, despite attacks from religious groups and attempts by Harvey Weinstein to suppress it's re-release.

In this episode of the Morally Offensive podcast, Bill and Cisco are joined by comedian Ross Childs aka Crabman732 to revisit the controversy. Was Dogma truly as offensive as the Catholic League claimed, and does it hold up?

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On this episode of Morally Offensive, Cisco takes a break, so Bill is joined by frequent guest and film presenter Stephanie Sack along with television producer and writer Ken Melvoin-Berg to dive headfirst into The Devils (1971), Ken Russell’s blasphemous, banned, and still shocking masterpiece. Based on Aldous Huxley’s The Devils of Loudun, this true story of sex, power, witch hunts, and moral panic in the Catholic Church proves that real life is often stranger, and in this case even more offensive, than fiction. The crew breaks down the history behind the Loudun possessions, digs into the background of filmmaker Ken Russell, and reads scathing “Condemned” reviews from outraged Catholic news sources. Tune in to find out why some are calling Morally Offensive the "podcast equivalent of a forced enema exorcism".

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This week, we were slightly concerned that we would not have our Freddy Got Fingered Episode done in time, so we prepared a backup episode to buy us time to wrap it up. As it turned out, we were able to complete both, so our listeners get a double dose of Catholic guilt this week. In an early episode covering Barbara Stanwyck's iconic performance in Baby Face, we still thought our average show length should be about an hour and a half, so we removed a large chunk of the conversation with our guests.

The more we sat on the "missing" parts of this episode, the more we realized that we were sitting on some pretty relatable and heart-felt content, that really needed to released into the wild. In this "lost" material, we dig into the way Catholics scare children and teens into compliance with fear of God and damnation, the problematic quackery that is abstinence-only "sex-ed", and Bill and his wife Kelly talk about that one time they saw a DIY exorcism at a Basilica.

Also in this episode, we talk with ex-Catholic producer/director Dalila Droege about her Kickstarter campaign for her latest horror movie project, with directly ties in with the themes of this week's "missing episode". To learn more about Droege's film "Beauty Night", please check out her Kickstarter campaign here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/beautynight/beauty-night-a-horror-film-about-puberty

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On this episode of Morally Offensive, Bill and Cisco dive headfirst into Freddy Got Fingered (2001), Tom Green’s aggressively unhinged film that might be the worst comedy of the 2000s, or a misunderstood absurdist masterpiece, according to some. Filled with horse semen, broken bones, and a wildly uncomfortable false molestation subplot, it was a critical disaster. Yet, it somehow features Rip Torn, an Oscar-nominated actor who fully commits to Green’s chaotic vision. With the release of Tom Green Country and a new stand-up special, we ask: is it time to rethink Green as a proto-absurdist innovator rather than just an MTV shock jock?

We trace Green’s legacy from late-’90s shock humor to anti-comedy pioneer, clearing the path for the surreal chaos of Tim and Eric and The Eric Andre Show. The guys ask if Freddy belongs in the tradition of absurdist theater à la Ionesco and Beckett, the surrealist works of Bunuel, or if this is Tom Green using his blank check to self-sabotage his career in full public view. Either way, it’s one of the most deranged movies ever made, made with unique, original voice, and somehow, it might have changed comedy forever.

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This week on Morally Offensive, Bill and Cisco are joined by Matt Harding of Severin Films to unpack Blood for Dracula, the 1974 cult horror film that’s part vampire flick, part Catholic fever dream, and weirdly anti-communist.

Directed by Paul Morrissey (a devout Catholic and outspoken conservative) and presented by Andy Warhol, the film follows Count Dracula as he travels to Italy in search of a virgin bride, because, naturally, good Catholic girls are presumed to still be pure. We explore Morrissey's strange blend of conservative ideology and avant-garde aesthetics, his collaborations at The Factory, and his time managing the Velvet Underground and Nico.

This episode dives into the film’s bizarre politics, its critique of socialism, and how Catholic values, exploitation cinema, and vampire lore collide in one of the strangest art-house horror movies ever made.

Content Warning: This film includes disturbing content involving minors and sexual assault. Listener discretion is advised.

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On this episode of Morally Offensive, Bill and Cisco revisit the Y2K-era horror classic Final Destination (2000), the film that made audiences afraid to fly and introduced death as the ultimate slasher. Released just a year before 9/11 and a few years after the TWA Flight 800 disaster, its opening plane crash and creeping paranoia feel strangely prophetic in hindsight.

The episode dives into horror, practical effects, the teen slasher boom, and turn-of-the-millennium anxieties. And yes, they talk about that one bathroom scene.

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It’s all been building up to this. The Last Temptation of Christ is one of the most, if not the most, controversial films of the 1980s—and of Martin Scorsese’s career. Willem Dafoe plays Jesus, but this isn’t your grandmother’s technicolor epic Messiah. This Jesus wrestles with violence, lust, and self-doubt.

Naturally, the film enraged many Christians. There were boycotts, bans, death threats against Scorsese, and even a terrorist bombing by Catholic Integralists.

Cisco and Bill were too scared to go it alone—so they brought in fellow Detroit native Eric Kiska from A24 on the Rocks to ask:

• Is The Last Temptation of Christ a good film?

• Is it offensive to Christians—or to Jesus himself?

• Did people overreact?

Tangents include: David Bowie’s worst haircut, Pasolini’s Gospel According to St. Matthew, Pope Gregory's lies about Mary Magdalene, and (you guessed it) another loaf of bread in cinema.

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Easter falls on 4/20 this year, so the guys decided to push their Last Temptation of Christ episode back a couple of weeks, to make room for two other culturally important, long-haired dudes, who also fought against "the man". "Cheech and Chong's Last Movie" comes out on Easter this year, which falls on April 20th, appropriately, so we decided to go back to the beginning, by reviewing 1978's "Up in Smoke". Although it's pretty obvious why this one probably offended the Catholic Church, we both share our mutual stories of being Catholic and connecting to the movies and albums of Cheech Marin and Tommy Chong. Also, Bill makes Cisco take the "know your 70's drug slang" quiz. 

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This was a rough one. Ben Affleck plays an autistic accountant, whose neurodivergent mind allows him to be a genius with numbers, and even better with a gun. Let's just say the guys had...takes on this movie. With The Accountant 2 coming to theatres on April 25th, it felt like the perfect time to revisit this film, and to ask "does this film actually warrant a sequel"? Bill and Cisco talk about autistic and neurodivergent representation in media, action movie tropes, what makes a good script, and debate whether or not U of C is where fun goes to die (or if it's really Kankakee, Illinois, (home of the Mazon Creek Formation). They also dig up early 90s, late Satanic Panic era Catholic writing on the "evils of New Age music" from one of Bill's favorite crazy Catholic bathroom books.

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