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Fijians New Era and Olympic Dreams with Waisea Nayacalevu and Temo Mayanavanua_29 Jul 202400:36:28

The boys sit down for an exclusive chat with the leader and captain of the Flying Fijians in Waisea Nayacalevu as well as Northampton’s Prem winning lock forward Temo Mayanavanua


We hear all about the World Cup heartbreak and the genuine belief they were good enough to reach the final. 


We get an unfiltered version of what happened in the England game and their thoughts on how Fiji officiated compared to Tier 1 Nations. Are the most exciting set of players in the world hindered by the respect they show the officials?


We hear from Temo on Northampton’s march to the prem title and how he found France.


In fact both players agree that the baguette might just be the greatest single French invention ever.


Wais and Temo talk through their perfect 7s team and how good Selestino Ravutaumada really is with the Olympic world at this feet. 


And what about Waisea just swapping his contract with Manu Tuilagi?


The boys put the Fijians under the microscope and hear what this new era holds for the Flying Fijians

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The Big Summer Test Round Up24 Jul 202400:54:52

We finally have everyone back and ready to dissect a fascinating summer of international rugby. 


The Boks and Irish cancel each other out in an epic double header, but was it a fair result? Was there a block that allowed the last gasp drop goal from Frawley? What about our buddy Malcolm Marx and the dreaded Croc Roll….. and are you only as good as your last game (Max 😂)


And what about England, will they ever get a better chance to beat the All Blacks in their own back yard? They keep getting so close to beating the best teams in the world but coming short. Is Project Borthwick to be commended or scrutinised?


The All Blacks though are up and running in the Razor era, but how does Fiji’s evolution stack up?


And Wales? Poor old Wales… They only waited until the 79th minute of their final match of the summer to pick up their first win of 2024…. But a win is a win (even against a second string Queensland Reds side) 


Most importantly what on earth did Max get up to in Senegal and how come Ryan came back less relaxed following his all inclusive luxury holiday than when he left….

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PARTY LIKE A KING(HORN) - Bonus Ep with a European Champion!31 May 202400:27:50

How Toulouse celebrated their Champions Cup Win with Blair Kinghorn!


From riding a zebra at Tottenham Hotspur stadium, to Champagne goggles with Antoine DuPont, the scenes on arrival at Toulouse airport and the non stop partying since, Smaug breaks down the greatest celebrations of his life. 


He joins the boys from the lilo in his pool at his house in Toulouse wearing just a European Cup winners medal while his neighbour Jack Willis watches from over the fence.


We hear all about the celebrations, the partying, what the management had planned for them and whether there’s still some partying to be done.


We also hear about the game….


What was going through their minds when Leinster lined up a drop goal seconds before the end of the 80…. what makes Antoine DuPont so superhuman and what exactly goes on in Smaugs mind? 


Blair also takes us through the chats with Thomas Ramos around who would take the pressure kicks, and the not nearly discussed enough cover tackle on Dan Sheehan. 


He’s a hero, he’ll never have to buy a drink in Toulouse ever again…. Ladies and Gentlemen… Blair Kinghorn 👑

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The Big Show at the Champions Cup Final 29 May 202400:42:39

It’s the big one, the pinnacle of club rugby, two of the most illustrious sides to have graced the competition, Toulouse and Leinster slugging it out for their shot at immortality. 


Perhaps just as importantly Ryan, Max and Marc took their shot at hospitality immortality as they snagged prime seats at the final. The boys mix it with the stars on a glorious day and even manage to bring you some of the pod! 


Let the lads take you to the heart of a pulsating final, they live it, they love it, they breathe it (they drink it)...and Max commentates it...in his own unique way! 


Max gets asked to take his top off by just about every single person, Ryan gets pied off by Wayne Barnes and Marc is rescued from inside a rubbish bin. Oh and did we tell you we love Smaug?


0:00 - Intro

3:21 - Max leads us through the end of the game, with his live reactions

13:15 - Post-game reaction

15:03 - a quick embrace with Smaug himself (Blair Kinghorn)

15:32 - Back to studio for post-day...and night....analysis


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44: Aphelele Fassi vs Adam Hastings - the Big Europe Preview21 May 202401:14:24
It’s a bumper show with 2 of Rugby’s silkiest stars looking ahead to the most mouthwatering weekend of European Action.

Aphele takes us through The Shark infested waters of a tricky URC season where Europe has been their only relief. It’s why Friday’s showdown has such an added dimension, it’s the be all or end all for both The Sharks and their opponents Gloucester. 

Aphele also relives his dream debut for the Springboks. I mean has there ever been a better first touch in the history international rugby? We also hear what it means for him and his family to be a Springbok.

Meanwhile Hasto gives us an update on everything to do with Blair Kinghorn. It’s funny that Blair spent most of our recent catch up telling us all about Hasto…. Ah the star crossed lovers. We hear about the significance of this redemptive match at Tottenham Hotspur's Stadium, the fallout from that drubbing at the hands of the Saints and his move to Glasgow. Will Hasto’s GF be joining him or will golf with Ryan be too time consuming?

In terms of the boys, Max’s season comes to an end but not before we wax lyrical about his try scoring prowess and London being painted Bears over the weekend. 

Ryan continues to play golf

0:30 - Max’s season is over
10:32 - Beven Rodd’s dive and the ones that went (over) before!
12:10 - Max bagged another meat pie!
20:50 - URC Roundup
26:39 - Wolfcraig Distillery's exclusive offer for Maul Or Nothing listeners; https://wolfcraig.com/maul-or-nothing-wolfpack-membership/
28:01 - Aphelele Fassi
43:32 - Aphelele’s Springbok debut & future
53:25 - Adam Hastings

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43: Marco Van Staden - Bulls charge for URC glory + Bristol & Quins blitzed13 May 202401:16:27
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The boys are delighted to be joined by Springbok World Cup Winner Marco Van Staden wearing his scars from a bruising encounter with Ryan’s Glasgow Warriors. 

We hear all about the big clash as well as Marco’s World Cup stories, what the win meant for the people back home in South Africa and about the man, the myth, the legend that is Rassie Erasmus and what it’s like being one of his disciples.

Max meanwhile takes us through the disappointing loss to Saracens and how their big name players step up at key moments and are almost operating on a different level. 

Unfortunately there’s still time for the boys to bang on about DIY and golf but far more enjoyably they also try to answer all your fabulous  questions you’ve written into the show so THANK YOU!!!

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42: André Esterhuizen + Blair Kingschnozz - Too Hot Toulouse (your nose)07 May 202401:14:55
Watch the Ep (and check out Blair's Schnozz) here; 
https://youtu.be/PApEB_C3dPk?si=beiGfmCdnmnHUetO)

A super special Champions Cup show from the boys as they bring you not one but TWO superstars in the shape of World Cup winning wrecking ball André Esterhuizen and Toulouse royalty Blair Kinghorn. 

André relives the previous 24 hours with Harlequins, the pride in their performance but also the frustration at how close they got. He gives his take on that silly penalty from Joe Marler at a crucial time and the mindset of the boys as they entered the “neutral” lions den. There are also some choice words on the French broadcasting standards and Thomas Ramos Lord of the shithousers.

He also takes us through the heartbreak of missing out on a World Cup and then winning one, his Sharks move and he explains his thinking around why Marcus Smith is the best fly half for him. 

VIP friend of the show Blair meanwhile is living the dream as Toulouse head to the Champions Cup final but it’s kinda hard to see his emotions because HIS NOSE IS FAAAAAAAAAAAACKED and buried under a ton of dressing like he’s been mummified. So what was he doing while his buddies were out celebrating? We won’t give it all away but it involves crying and holding hands….

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41: The Saviour of Bristol Bears and The Care Card Controversy29 Apr 202401:20:30
Game changing, match winning, Tiger mauling, whitewash crossing, ball destroying Max Lahiff obliterating his try scoring statistics with not one but TWO meat pies. You might be surprised to hear that we go quite big on Max’s starring role in the Bears stunning comeback win at Leicester to boost their hopes of a playoff place. 

Maxotron takes us through those defining moments and what was being shouted at the Bristol bench when they were 19 points down with around 10 minutes to go…..

The boys also wade into the Danny Care card controversy… should he have been sent off? Is it wise for referees to officiate their former teams? 

In any case the Thriller at Twickenham is put under the microscope as the Saints march is halted and Quins keep up the pace with the top four. 

It’s so tight in the Prem that even Exeter in 7th are still in with a shout.

The boys take us through the big talking points of the URC as the top 4 put daylight between themselves and the chasing pack….

And we look ahead to those monumental champions cup semi finals

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40: The Art of Thrashing - Max Re-Signs as Bristol Maul Newcastle22 Apr 202400:59:37
Big week for the Maxotron! With Ryan dropping hints on every episode that Max was heading to the URC with Benetton…. Max is in fact remaining a Bear for another year. Speaking of Bristol… there was a feeding frenzy at Ashton Gate as The Falcons had their wings clipped by a ravenous record Bears mauling. Some eye watering statistics included:
13 Tries (Max Lahiff 0 but claiming almost 1…)
44 clean breaks (Max Lahiff 0)

The boys discuss the business end of both the Prem and URC which is getting tighter per day. 

Bath are back on track while the Saints go marching on….

There are some particularly surprising weekend results in the URC though including 2 home defeats for the South African sides…. What do the Bulls fans make of resting their stars for the European Cup and then losing to Munster anyway? 
Ospreys carry the Welsh flame as they stun the Stormers in SA. But the big one…. The Lions liquifying Leinster to make sure there were some smiles on South African faces on Saturday. 

Oh and the boys want your rugby stories! The Rumour Maul is back! 

Also to our fans in Dubai, there’s a live show coming so keep your eyes and ears peeled for a forthcoming announcement!

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39: Blair Kinghorn, CEO - Chiefs Extermination Order + History making Quins15 Apr 202401:30:25
The King of the South (of France) joins the boys to talk through the ton of tries which lit up a weekend of European action.

Blair / Smaug gives an insight into the pre match hysteria, the half time roasting and the post match celebrations at the home of the Kings of Europe.

Rugby is great and none more so than when underdogs get their day. Very few people saw that Quins win coming, least of all Mystic Max and The Oryancle Wilson. There is time though for Ryan (Jonny) Wilkinson to highlight how easy Maxime Lucu’s kick should have been (having never himself been in that position)

Leinster (yet again at home) send out a big message of intent in dispatching the Champions but the lads aren’t convinced that La Rochelle’s exploits in Cape Town vs the Stormers had anything to do with the loss.

We hear their take on the Bulls’ controversial decision to put the URC ahead of the Champions Cup…were they justified in their complaints or is it just what they signed up for…and either way Northampton keep doing what they’ve been doing all season…but is this the end of the road?

And the boys talk through Toulouse’s ‘Gone in 600 seconds’ job on Exeter…it was close until it wasn’t any more!

There’s also time to discuss Smaug's best mate Adam Hasting’s outrageous piece of skill. But what was the real driver for that tekkers masterclass?

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38: Bonus Ep; Charlotte Caslick - Australian 7s Sensation11 Apr 202400:26:25
Fresh’ from a hard Day (& night) in Hong Kong, Ryan catches up with a player widely regarded as one of the very best in the world of Women’s Rugby Sevens; Charlotte Caslick.

They talk through all things Sevens; from the fastest players to the best venues, and of course the wild weekends in Hong Kong.

We hear about her personal journey - from how she got into the sport via a serious injury to dishing the dirt on her room mates.

Plus, with Ryan’s eyes firmly opened to what the Sevens tour has to offer, they discuss just what the game of XVs can learn from it’s smaller sided variant.

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37: Saracens Smashed, Stormers Sorrow, Saints Go Marching On + HK7s Pilgrimage10 Apr 202401:03:34
European knock out rugby is back and the big boys deliver as Bordeaux Blitz a Fazless Saracens while La Rochelle somehow survive the Stormers onslaught. Are Northampton contenders according to the boys?

It’s worth noting that Ryan joins us from Hong Kong having had an almighty time at the Sevens. Fair to say anxiety levels are high after partying with all the stars.

How will he take the fact that Max thinks we’re recording on another day…. 

We hear all about the amazing Hong Kong Sevens, and the boys round up a fabulous weekend of Champions Cup Action.

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Making the Fijians Fly - Head Coach Mick Byrne15 Jul 202400:53:40

The MoN boys get the lowdown on everything to do with Fijian rugby from its very own guru Mick Byrne.


We are delighted to sit down with the new Fiji coach as he prepares to take on the mighty All Blacks.


Fresh from helping to grow the Fijian Drua he’s now ready to build on the Fijian World Cup success and take them to the next level.


Mick The Kick has had one of the most varied and impressive careers the only person to coach against himself at international level as head coach of Japan when they took on the All Blacks, the team he was skills coach for at the time as well! 



00:00 Intro

02:50 Coaching Fiji

07:09 The culture in Fiji and Drua

13:50 Keeping talent in Fiji 

19:27 What makes Fijians so good at rugby?

23:09 Micks coaching style

25:29 Drinking Cava

29:04 Who is Mick excited about coaching

32:38 Coaching in Scotland

38:23 Two World Cup wins with the All Blacks

42:43 Michael Leitch and Japan

45:57 Who has Mick learned from the most

50:24 How far can Fiji go?

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36: Sin-Win for Quins + Champions Cup Preview01 Apr 202401:06:52
This week the boys break down another howler in the Prem…. Sin Bins optional between Harlequins and Bath. Regardless what a match! This Is Rugby!
The guys revel in a great win for Bristol. The only unbeaten side in the Prem since the end of the 6 Nations. (2 games…)

It is tight at the top for the Play Offs with the lads rounding up all the action.

Similar story in the URC, although Ryan reckons the top 3 are locked up, but there’s still space at the top table. Our darlings Benetton back in the mix…. But just 5 points separate 5th and 11th…. The Race for Europe is on, speaking of which… the Boys give their Champions Cup round of 16 previews and predictions.

The usual hot takes are there and more importantly deep life affirming questions answered….

What to wear as a rugby player if you want to get melted on the field?

What would Ryan and Max do now if they came up against each other?

The one piece of advice for a Hong Kong Sevens Virgin? 

Enjoy!

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35: TM-uh-O: Big Game Controversy & URC/Prem Roundup27 Mar 202401:01:05
Club rugby is back and so are the big talking points. Ryan and Max get their heads around a bizarre big game call as Quins and Sarries clashed at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. 

What about the Bears mauling the Saints, Max takes us into Bristol’s mindset around that statement win.

We round up all the action and hot takes as the business end of the URC/Prem crank into gear.

We also discuss the latest transfer rumours, giving away some tantalising big goss from within the rugby inner sanctum and there’s even time to discuss how wily coaches get their players into the international set up.

Oh and there’s an update on Louis Rees-Zammit’s NFL dream

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34: The Ultimate Six Nations Roundup18 Mar 202401:03:41
The curtain has come down on the greatest six nations of all time (in Max’s words)

Ireland worthy winners, although Ryan will no doubt infuriate some of our Irish friends with his take. But what about the others?

Max is thrilled with England’s resurgence. They backed it up in Lyon, but there’s definitely some disagreement between the boys as to where France are. One thinks they’re back and the other thinks they need Dupont back! 

Ryan takes his time with a sobering assessment of Scotland's campaign but everyone agrees what a tournament its been for Italy.

And what of Wales? Is it all doom and gloom or are there chinks of light in the distance.

The boys round up a thrilling final round of rugby and an unforgettable competition as a whole. Rugby is back!!!!

There’s also the Maul or Nothing Team of the Tournament to sink your teeth into or more likely sharpen your comments online.

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33: Irish Dominated at 'HQ' & Italy Crush Scotland's 'Fan Slam' with Monty Ioane12 Mar 202401:27:33
Wow…. That was unexpected. Italy put paid to the Fans Grand Slam much to the chagrin of Ryan. And Despite his best efforts at the art of filibustering, the outlandish predictions of Mystic Wils finally catch up with him...Scotland to win by 14 points...AT LEAST! 

Back by very popular demand Simon Zebo is given his right to reply to his own predictions...but is the humble pie on his menu?

We catch up with Italy winger Monty Ioane to hear all about the emotion at the Stadio Olimpico. How did the players prepare, what was the atmosphere like on the pitch and most importantly what did they get up to after. 

We’re then back at Twickenham with Ryan in the corporate boxes enjoying England's best performance since the 2019 World Cup Semi Final. How Ryan and Simon Zebo laughed at the suggestion England could beat Ireland… but Max said “there’s always a chance”….

Heartbreak for our Irish cousins as the potential Grand Slam is torn from their hands at the death with Marcus Smith dropping the dagger between the posts and through the Irish hearts. 

Question is… how did Max enjoy the action on a weekend in Prague?

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32: Simon Zebo’s Guide to Beating Ireland + 6 Nations Preview06 Mar 202401:02:42
We’re delighted to be joined by Ireland, Lions and Munster star Simon Zebo. He gives the boys the keys to the kingdom with his take on how England can beat Ireland. Only 3 things need to happen…. 

He gives us an insight into what makes Jack Crowley tick and what makes Joe McCarthy such an irresistible force. 

The real question is “are Ireland better now than they were during last year’s grand slam” and Zeebs is pretty sure of his answer. He explains to the Philistines just why Andy Farrell is so good at what he does and just for good measure gives his prediction on the “Fans Slam” for Scotland…. 

The boys preview of the penultimate round of the Six Nations filled with predictions, hot takes and hopefully the perfect soundbite from an extremely confident Ryan.

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31: Michele Lamaro on Italian Heartbreak + Duhan The Destroyer of England's Title Hopes27 Feb 202401:09:09
“Humble in Victory, Gracious in Defeat” does not apply to Ryan Wilson ever. Disgraceful post-France, his humility following Scotlands resounding win over England is something to behold.

Max remains admirably calm in the face of Ryan’s gloating and can’t help but wax lyrical over Big Duane VDM…

We also catch up with Italy Captain, Michele Lamaro, and those heartbreaking last seconds when the win against France was in their hands. He tells us what went through their heads and the atmosphere within the squad. It’s also a bright future for Italy and they know they’re going in the right direction and things are falling into place.

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30: Tepid Takes and Geordie Sheikhs22 Feb 202400:28:54
The boys are back to talk Darts, Dublin and Domestic duties, as Max finally completes his incredibly protracted house move....somehow thanks largely to his cutting loose with a hand saw...which gives Ryan an idea! 

Also in this episode, recorded at the start of the week but unfortunately delayed due to technical reasons, the boys dish out some now not so hot takes on recalls for Manu Tuilagi, Harry Randall & Hamish Watson😬, while also giving some much more relevant opinions on actual recalls for friends of the show Ollie Lawrence and Blair Kinghorn...as well as the mysterious continued omission of Zach Mercer.

The boys also give us some deep thoughts on a hopeless task for Wales and a maybe not quite so hopeless task for Italy...

And they also find the time to check in on the Saudi deal…. Is the Kingdom about to descend upon the Premiership? Can we expect Toulouse to Tyneside for Antoine DuPont as Newcastle look to be the big beneficiaries of barrels of banknotes??? Get on the banter bus!

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29: Six Nations - The Great Murrayfield Robbery12 Feb 202400:59:11
Sacré Bleu Ryan is angry. He is still seething at Saturday’s result. Having spent the week in Dubai, had his return flight cancelled and arrived for all his work at Murrayfield at the last minute he can’t quite fathom what’s happened.

Unfortunately for Max, Ryan is going through the 6 stages of grief…. He’s done denial but can’t get past anger. Which is funny.

Max meanwhile is the eternal optimist seeing the good in England’s narrow win over Wales (something which irritates Ryan immensely) 

Luckily both the boys agree that Ireland are unstoppable and could become the first team to win back to back six nations championships in the history of the 6 team competition.

Also if you want to see the boys, they’ll be recording a live podcast at the Prince of Wales pub in Covent Garden on Tuesday! Ticket proceeds go to charity so come say hi!

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28: Sione Tuipulotu - the Cardiff Cauldron - Inside Scotland vs Wales06 Feb 202400:37:33
The Maul or Nothing Boys get the inside scoop on that most astonishing of matches between Wales and Scotland.

Sione takes us through those suffocating moments as the game looked to be slipping away…. What was being said, who stood up, what goes through your mind when the noise is deafening and what was Gregor Townsends reaction to the unfolding events.
We also hear about the post match reaction in the changing room and their approach as they turn their attention to the France game. 

We also hear about Sione first bumping into Max in the gym when he was a teenager in Melbourne and the absolute beasts they had in their young squad. 

There’s also been some family fun trying to persuade his brothers to come and enjoy the delights that Scotland has to offer.

As always a front row seat to all the chat and gossip from the Six Nations… Enjoy!

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27: Astounding Weekend Of Six Nations Rugby05 Feb 202400:50:58
The boys break down a ridiculous round of rugby as the Six Nations kicked off with a bang.

A record breaking Ireland pulverising France in Marseille

Was that the finest ever Irish performance in the six nations or were DuPont-less France a little bit Bleu…. 

Ryan enjoyed all the hospitality at Wales vs Scotland and even managed to enjoy 1 half of rugby as Wales almost pulled off the unspeakable comeback to end all comebacks. Seen schmoozing with all the big Wales stars, how did Ryan survive and make it on the pod?

Max meanwhile waxes lyrical on an England back row and a performance to finally be proud of. (Sidestepping the fact it was England’s narrowest ever victory over Italy)

He’s played Ethan Roots in his Fantasy Team and thinks he’s a different specimen of rugby player. 

It’s a full round up of the highs and highers of the Six Nations and also find out how to win tickets to Scotland vs France!!!

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Flying Fijians - Frank Lomani & Peni Matawalu08 Jul 202400:38:54

Bula Vinaka everyone! We’ve caught up with two rising stars of Fijian rugby as they prepare for their upcoming test against the All Blacks.


We hear all about Peni’s antics when Ryan took him under his wing at Glasgow. The smile, the laugh, the stories…. These Matuwalus really are the most magnetic people in the world of rugby and we love them!


Frank is hot property but wants to see Fijian Drua win Super Rugby before moving on…. Will it happen? Well the boys have utmost confidence in the upwardly mobile position Fiji rugby finds itself in.


So what’s life been like post World Cup and with a new coaching set up?


How healthy is the future of Fijian rugby and what did Peni do when he first saw the drinks available at a local Glasgow pub?


And what about respect among the Fijian community…. We hear how Peni deals with playing against someone from the same area in Fiji as him (Virimi Vakatawa…) and we’re not sure his coaches will be happy 😂


Ryan and Marc head out to the Lensbury Resort while Max is out doing Max things in Senegal 🇸🇳! 


MoN team up with the Absolute Rugby Gang (10% discount code here: https://absoluterugby.co.uk/discount/MON10) for a Flying Fijian Special!

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26: PART 2 - Ben Earl Reveals All01 Feb 202400:42:06
In this second part of their chat, Ben tells the boys all about life at Sarries; including life under the tough love leadership of Captain Faz, the infamous get right sessions and having to pretend to be our very own Ryan Wilson…and just how unpopular that made him!

We also hear about Ben’s hopes for the Six Nations, his captaincy aspirations and just what did go down between Farrell and Arundell in that World Cup training session… 

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25: Six Nations Rugby Preview30 Jan 202401:06:17
It’s finally here… The Maul or Nothing Six Nations Mega Preview Fest 2024.

The boys break down each team, who to look out for, what the big talking points are and most importantly they answer the conundrums currently flying around one of the most intriguing Six Nations for years.

With the raft of retirements, unavailabilities, 5 new captains and question marks over most of the fly halves (bar Finn “Messi” Russell) the boys do the hard work by answering all those queries for you.

They gaze into their crystal balls to predict the final outcomes while trying not to alienate themselves from every single fan base. 

We also have time to hear from Max after that epic 101 point encounter against Bath and the ecstasy of the victory and the smash in the Bristol Bermuda Triangle

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24: England’s Future Captain Ben Earl Reveals All24 Jan 202400:53:56
It’s finally here, after months of ghosting and self reflection from Max, it turns out his friendship with Ben Earl is real and the ultimate gaslighting was merely an illusion. 

It’s a bumper episode with Ben Earl as he talks us through his time playing at Bristol with Max, the ups and downs and a particular man of the match performance which was all the sweeter for how it came to be in the first place. 

Ben takes us through his World Cup experience and putting all the pressure on himself before the Fiji game. 

He talks us through 24th man beer fears and what was the most powerful driver for some of Sarries best performances.

There’s a lot of honesty around his England aspirations and how he felt under Eddie Jones. There’s even more honesty around how ridiculous he thought Max looked in his new scrum cap.

He also gives us his take on media furore around his celebrations, Sarries and Faz

It’s England’s Future Captain (in our minds) Under the Microscope

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23: Captain Fintastic and the Super Saints - The Champions Cup Roundup22 Jan 202400:54:52
It’s a tough one this week…. Max reflects on Bristol's European exit, which has the boys googling therapy dogs…. Luckily Ryan spent the weekend working at Gloucester, he tries to persuade Zach Mercer to apply for Scottish citizenship but breaks his dry January on the town with Adam Hastings, Leone Nakarawa and Niko Matawalu.

The Saints show their champions credentials… which Smith do you prefer though for the Six Nations, Finn or Marcus. Speaking of Finns, Ryan’s pal is the new Co captain of Scotland. What will he be like…. And what will it be like for Jamie Ritchie now? 

There’s a Champions Cup roundup and what to look forward to in the last 16, as well as some complete guess work predictions 👍

The boys also breakdown the red cards and Joe Schmidt’s big move to head up the Wallabies!

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22: Blair Kinghorn & an intimate insight into life in France17 Jan 202400:52:42
We catch up with Toulouse’s latest star signing, the back three sensation that is Blair Kinghorn. 

We find out that he thought he was off to Toulon and all about his first taste of French team showers and how he measured up. 

He also talks us through the manic pre match warm up with Antoine Dupont. It’s intense but it might not be quite what you think….

We get an insight into the real Blair Kinghorn as he enters Max’s Minds of Moria quizzing. It gets weird but then again Max and Blair are weird so it works.

Most importantly he spills the beans on a British and Irish Lion who the elite rugby playing world has renamed for a hilarious reason. 

Oh and he misses Adam Hastings so spends hours with his Zoom lover.

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21: LRZ to the NFL...say whaaaat!16 Jan 202400:19:55
In this BONUS EP the boys give their instant reaction to the huge news that LRZ is headed to the NFL....or at least to the NFL's International Player Pathway in the hope of making it big in the NFL and securing the success and mega wealth that comes with it!

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20: The Angry Edition…Cards & Cr*p Calls on Blue Monday15 Jan 202400:52:36
It’s a Champions Cup Special as the boys breakdown all the main talking points from the weekend's action. Thing is…. They’re pissed off! Despite his New Year’s resolution to be happier there’s a proper stress test of Max’s willpower when he’s handed a (ludicrous in our unbiased eyes) yellow card against the mighty Bulls. Even worse is he’s been reprimanded for wearing his Gryffindor scrum cap… but who grassed him up to World Rugby???

Meanwhile Ryan has been jousting and jabbing anyone and everyone on social media after his Glasgow Warriors side were robbed of a win at Exeter. Was it the right call in that dramatic finale? You’ll be surprised to find that Ryan may not have thought so. But are Spats with Flats worthwhile…. The boys though are loving the B’s… Bordeaux, Blair (Kinghorn) and Bath.

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19: New Year Thrills, Drills & Poo Pills09 Jan 202400:45:14
With the New Year come the inevitable resolutions which Ryan has bafflingly decided to stick to. Some good drills, poo pills (it’s almost exactly what it sounds like) and a very big one… but can he last until Feb? In fact can he last the week with the boys together again. Max promises to be happier, with some philosophical musings around the need for it.

On the rugby front Max’s chassis gets some serious air time after Bristol’s long awaited win away at Sale and the boys break down the Premiership match of the season so far. A 78 point thriller between Exeter and Northampton. Let’s make the Prem more like Super Rugby one of the many topics of discussion.

There’s also some early chat around the fast approaching Six Nations and what England fans actually want. Results or entertainment…. Also, what the hell was Max wearing against Sale….

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18: Christmas with Finn Russell - The Bath Special21 Dec 202300:48:53
It’s all about Bath as the boys put on a Christmas extravaganza. 14KG’s of Turkey meat and Finn proving he’s made at least 2 friends during his time at Bath (exact amount)

We sit down with Finn Russell, Ollie Lawrence and Cameron Redpath to hear all about their Christmas quirks, the socials during festive periods and life as a rugby player at this joyful time.

And we hear what makes up the typical Christmas day in the Wilson, Lahiff, Russell, Lawrence and Redpath households.

Bonus footage - Check out the Youtube episode for extra fun, frolics and dinner time chat!

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17: Flop 14…French Giants on brink of early exit18 Dec 202300:58:56
Hot off the press, the boys round up the latest Champions Cup action including overanalysing Max’s display against Bordeaux on and off the field…. Pontificating on whether a testimonial means Courtney Lawes can’t play for England in the Six Nations despite his ridiculously good form. 
They’re full of praise for ice man Mannie Libbok but less so for Zander Fagerson! 

There’s also a big transfer section this week including Eddie Jones’ Japanese jaunt and the Hybrid contract situation in England.

So much to pack in but all the rugby chat you need after a fabulous weekend of European action

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Scott Sio - Barbarians + Australia’s State of the Union01 Jul 202400:42:38

We’re delighted to be joined this week by the Wallabies and Exeter and Barbarians Star Scott Sio.


He takes the boys through a fun filled time with the Baba’s, how he’s played against Sam Whitelock his whole life and in a funny twist of fate lines up alongside him for Sam’s final match. 


We go through his Wallabies career and aspirations (Joe Schmidt give him a bell!!!) and that he’d love to put on the Aussie jersey once more. He also walks us through what’s been happening to rugby union in Australia and how to bring back some of its shine.


The Eddie Jones project is also put under the microscope and how different life has been after a decade at the brumbies to switching locations to Devon.


Speaking of the brumbies, remember when they beat the Lions in 2013…. Scott does! And he tells us all about that wonderful day

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16: Ho Ho Hasto; Adam Hastings talks tours, totalled cars & birthday suits13 Dec 202301:00:44
The boys are back in Bristol sitting down with Adam Hastings for a costume, frolic filled Christmas special.

They discuss fabulous Christmas gifts, the time Ryan and Hasto fell asleep in a club… with Ryan’s parents…and the randomness of writing off your car…

Getting stuck  into this weeks theme of Tours, we hear about onsens, shavings, Argentine dive bars / super clubs and who are the best (and worst) room mates...
And like all good Christmas parties it naturally finishes with a silly game and chilly shots!

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15: Magic Marcus Smith leads English Dominance in Week 1! - Maul Or Nothing Rugby Roundup11 Dec 202301:06:39
The boys discuss all the big action and talking points from Game Week 1 of the European Champions Cup; including a near clean sweep for the much maligned English teams, led by a magical display by Marcus Smith, and ironically only ruined by the Prem Champions going down to the Blue Bulls…
They also reflect on a historic draw for Bayonne at Thomond Park…throw their support behind Henry Arundel’s big decision and talk about Bath’s new Spiderman kit.
And with GW1 in the bag, the boys also make their slightly more informed predictions about who will be crashing out of the competition at the first hurdle this year.

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14: Harry Randall Aka 'The Piece' Bus Trips! - Maul or Nothing Show07 Dec 202300:59:01
In the first of their up close and personal pods the boys get together with Bristol and England scrum half, Harry Randall aka “The Piece”.

The theme is away bus trips… we hear all about that bizarre quirk in professional athletes lives where rules are rewritten, friendships are made and broken and bird baths aren’t necessarily what you think they are….

Rands also spills the dirt on life working with Max, which global rugby celeb gave him his nickname “The Piece” and how he went from England's starting 6 Nations scrum half last year to missing out on the World Cup.

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13: 'Sharks Out Of Water' - Maul or Nothing Rugby Round Up04 Dec 202300:52:33
The boys discuss all the biggest games of the weekend including last gasp wins in the URC and Shark beatings in Pretoria and at the hands of Harlequins but more importantly who would win out of a bull and a shark. These are some of the life affirming questions answered by the boys…. There’s also reflection on Owen Farrell’s international sabbatical and speculation around England’s best options at no. 9. Ryan also takes us through waltzing into the wrong part of town in the Munster heartland… they really don’t like him there.



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12: The Owen Farrell Referee Fightback + Punditry Firsts and Concussions28 Nov 202300:53:34
Ryan is back in Glasgow Warriors colours as he takes the punditry game to a different level while Max delves deep into the heartbreaking yet encouraging Bristol match against the juggernaut that is Saracens. He was at the Stone X and takes us through the Faz horror show from the tee and whether his outburst at the referee was justified…We find out that Ryan needs no covert conversations when it comes to concussions and that Max has been given a gentle nudge before.The boys pull no punches as they breakdown each match from the URC and Gallagher Premiership

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11: Hype Men and Fun Sponges22 Nov 202300:45:56
The Ultimate Rugby Hype Men and Fun Sponge Sapuccinos

The boys break down a packed weekend of rugby action with Max back in the starting line up at the Bears. With unwarranted questions around Max’s on field body language the duo take us through the rugby players who pick you up when you’re down and conversely those that somehow manage to bring you right down when you’re up! 

Ryan breaks new ground as a pundit as he prepares to do something no other pro has ever done (apparently… according to Ryan… with very little empirical evidence and absolutely no fact checking from the MoN production team)

With Antoine Dupont heading to the 7s circuit the lads (du)pontificate on the make up of their Ultimate home nations 7s team for next years Olympics (hint: very fast with very little size….)  

And a round up of all the weeks rugby talking points, including Maro’s money, AWJ’s final fling and Welsh worries


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10: The Future of Fiji Rugby + The Rumour Maul16 Nov 202300:59:34
The boys are back together with a double filming sesh in Bristol and Cardiff.
They catch up with Simione Kuruvoli and Selestino Ravitaumada to discuss the World Cup exploits of the Flying Fijians. 


It’s also a chance to see how Max is doing after being dropped and most importantly it’s their very first Rumour Maul… a brand new section with all things gossip from across the rugby spectrum!


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9: Australia Rise From The Ashes The Gargantuan Trio of Taniela Tupou, Angus Bell & Rob Leota pour over the big Aussie reset.08 Nov 202300:42:50
The boys are in  Cardiff to put The Tongan Thor, Taniela Tupou, Goosey purveyor of Grubbers, Angus Bell and Captain Rebels Fantastic, Rob Leota under the microscope. 

The wounded wallabies take stock of life in the post Eddie Jones period, what their World Cup camp was like, preparations for the greatest week of their lives (Barbarians drinking) and how Australia will cope when the British & Irish Lions come to town.



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8: “It’s like fighting a raccoon” The unstoppable Springboks savour sweetest success as Siya solidifies status. The World Cup Review is here!01 Nov 202300:45:17
The boys are in the stunning surroundings of a suite at London’s poshest hotel, The Mandarin Oriental. They breakdown the last great World Cup, the controversial decisions from that epic final, the elation for South Africa and heartbreak for the brave men in Black.

We’ll have Ryan and Max’s team of the tournament, they best moment, the heroes and the dicks of rugby’s showpiece event


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7: Rugby's Greatest Rivalry - The All Boks Final Countdown26 Oct 202301:22:47
We have All Blacks prop, George Bower, and Springbok World Cup Winner, Butch James, head to head.

George has been in the All Black camp throughout the World Cup, he lets us into the mindset of the squad ahead of the final. He also takes us through sharing a flat with Sevu Reece, being an All Black body double and meeting his idols Richie McCaw and Dan Carter.

Butch thinks the battle hardened Boks can still go again in final despite New Zealand’s “easy” route to Rugby’s showpiece event

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URC GRAND FINAL CHAMPIONS - Glasgow Warriors with Huw Jones 26 Jun 202401:05:08

It’s actually happened…. Can you believe it… Glasgow Warriors are URC champions. They beat the Bulls and the altitude to give Scottish rugby one of its most crowning moments.


OBVIOUSLY Ryan was there as a one man hype machine, he’s in the stand with Steve Kitshoff, he’s among the fans, he’s in the winning dressing room, he’s on their bus and he’s absolutely broken on his way home. (You’ll never guess the British and Irish Lions star to his left on his flight home)


We are blessed to have a very dusty Huw Jones, wearing his champions cap, take us through all the emotions of the match. The feeling going into it, how they reacted to going 13-0 down in an arena full to the brim with Bulls fans. He then takes us through the celebrations and how Klingon Wilson went full kit on them.


There’s also a rather sobering flight home, before they’re back on it and the party goes again.


The Maul or Nothing team take you into the heart of an enthralling final and celebrations to match. Enjoy!


0:00 - Ryan's ultimate weekend of punditry & Celebrations!

9:49 - Ryan's perfect punditry predictions

12:50 - Max has been to a Work Colleague's wedding!

15:18 - Japan vs England

20:27 - South Africa vs Wales - the Baba's curtain-raiser

23:00 - Does all of South Africa have gout?

25:10 - Baba's vs Fiji

30:20 - Sam Whitelock tribute

34:00 - Where's the easiest place to hide on a rugby field?

36:17 - URC CHAMPION Huw 'Shuggy' Jones joins us!

43:55 - Playing at altitude

51:40 - Jake White's ref comments

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6: Springboks ruin the World Cup…. again.17 Oct 202301:06:06
Malcolm Marx and Simon Zebo break down the greatest Quarter Final weekend of all time….

Are South Africa the worst guests ever after knocking out the hosts for a 3rd World Cup in a row…. 

Malcolm Marx gives us the Saffa angle and talks us through his tournament heartbreak but he’ll be in Paris if the Springboks make it to the final! 

Simon Zebo is the voice of the Irish after their heartbreaking defeat to New Zealand...

While Ryan has been ensconced in the Fiji camp with his partner in crime Niko Matawalu. It’s a 4 day bender involving hospitality, boats, lost passports and going head to head with some lower brow podcasts including GBR and our pals at Rigbiz.   

And Max’s opening day of the Premiership really doesn’t go to plan.

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5: "South Africa are underdogs”11 Oct 202301:05:53
It’s not possible is it… a Springbok legend plays down the defending champions chances of beating France. 
Bryan Habana looks ahead to that cracking World Cup Quarter Final in Paris.

Joe Rokocoko opens up on inspiring the people of Fiji and what this fabulous run at the tournament means for his people. 

Kenny Logan has just completed a 700 mile endurance challenge from Edinburgh to Paris in aid of the My Name’5 Doddie Foundation and its safe to say he and fellow star Ally McCoist never want to see Vagicil again or the actor, James Nesbitt, for that matter…

The boys are joined by 3 world class wingers in Bryan Habana, Joe Rokocoko and Kenny Logan….

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4: Can Scotland defy the odds and the Rassie conspiracy?04 Oct 202301:01:09
We're at the glamorous Mandarin Oriental with a duo of Scottish internationals in Sean Maitland and Thom Evans, to look ahead to the epic clash between Scotland and Ireland!

Sean has tough calls to make between his international colleagues and his club mates… he also relives that highly controversial 2015 World Cup quarter final match with Australia.

Thom takes us through that fateful day his rugby career came to an end and his showbiz lifestyle since.

The boys agree on the single best moment as a professional rugby player.

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3: Matt Giteau on the auto-destruct Eddie Project, Schalk Brits on defeat and Ebens snuggle with James Low and from Braai to Bras with South African Rapper Jack Parow27 Sep 202300:59:24
It’s a bumper show with 3 stellar guests this week. We welcome Wallaby legend Matt Giteau to discuss the catastrophic Aussie World Cup campaign. Where do they go from here? Springbok star, Schalk Brits talks us through Eben’s mindset after his dance with James Lowe and what defeat means for the Boks while South African rap icon Jack Parow tells us all about his life in rugby and the bizarrest things to have happened to him while touring.

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