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Why Integrations Break: TSAs, Carve-Outs, and the Hidden Dependencies That Derail M&A Deals with Donara Jaghinyan05 Jan 202600:45:14
Donara Jaghinyan – Transformation and Integration Leader

Donara joins us to pull back the curtain on why integrations break—and what it actually takes to make them work. With deep experience across healthcare, SaaS, professional services, and financial services in both public and PE-backed environments, Donara has led diligence, post-close integration, TSA execution, and enterprise system implementations. This episode tackles the hard truths about carve-outs, TSA management, day-one readiness, and the cross-functional dependencies that most teams miss until it's too late. If you've ever wondered why integration timelines slip or costs balloon, this conversation delivers the answers.


Things you will learn:

  • Why TSAs aren't contracts, they're projects with hard deadlines, cost escalations, and integration dependencies that functional teams consistently underestimate

  • The hidden complexity of carve-outs and how scope, vendor negotiations, and people gaps create surprises even with solid diligence

  • How Integration Management Offices (IMOs) orchestrate cross-functional dependencies that functional leads can't see

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Episode Timestamps

  • [00:02:30] From International Relations to M&A Integration – Donara's unconventional path from Armenia to becoming a full-time integration leader in Boston

    [00:04:00] The Dependency Problem No One Sees Coming – Why integration isn't just about systems or people—it's about understanding what breaks when you miss upstream and downstream connections

    [00:06:00] Why You Can't Just Promote a PM to IMO – The critical difference between project management and integration program leadership

    [00:07:00] What Gets Underestimated in Carve-Outs – Scope creep, vendor negotiations, and people gaps that blindside even experienced teams

    [00:09:00] TSAs Are Projects, Not Contracts – Why treating TSAs as temporary extensions instead of hard deadlines creates integration debt and cost overruns

    [00:13:00] Managing Two Carve-Outs Simultaneously – The story of integrating two business units with heavy TSAs, cross-border complexity, and mismatched organizational structures

    [00:19:00] Getting IMO Involved Before LOI – How early integration involvement during diligence creates smoother execution and realistic timelines

    [00:30:00] Day One Readiness and the 30/60/90 Framework – What actually happens from day one through the first 90 days, including controls, discovery, and execution milestones

    [00:37:00] Integration Governance That Actually Works – Structuring steering committees, functional cadences, and escalation paths that keep deals on track

    [00:40:00] The Integration Kickoff That Sets the Tone – What to cover, who to involve, and how to align teams on why the deal matters

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Building Your M&A Reputation: Why Relationships Beat Transactions Every Time with Andrew Cohen22 Dec 202501:08:16

Andy Cohen, Vice President of Corporate Development at F5

Andy has built a career that proves M&A is fundamentally about relationships, not just transactions. With 30 years of experience and 60 deals closed across high-growth tech companies including Citrix, Acquia, and F5, Andy has cultivated the kind of reputation where every CEO he's worked with will take his call tomorrow. In this conversation, he reveals why zero-sum thinking kills deals, how to convince people to sell without convincing them to sell, and why walking away on principle matters more than closing at any cost. 

Things you will learn: 

  • Why reputation is your most valuable M&A asset
  • The shift from zero-sum to win-enough thinking
  • Learn Andy's approach to using due diligence as the foundation for integration strategy, cultural fit assessment, and long-term value creation.

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Episode Timestamps

  • [00:02:30] The Empathy Advantage – Why sitting in every seat at the M&A table gives you the perspective to close better deals.
  • [00:04:00] Zero-Sum Thinking Will Kill Your Deals – The mindset shift from "winning" to ensuring everyone gets enough of what they want.
  • [00:07:30] Building Relationships That Actually Drive Deals – How a 30-year network of bankers, VCs, and former CEOs creates proprietary deal flow.
  • [00:10:30] Why Proactive Beats Auctions Every Time – Why almost all of Andy's deals are proactive and how strategic focus enables targeted outreach.
  • [00:14:00] Getting to the Story Behind the Company
  • [00:21:00] How to collaboratively build the acquisition narrative without being pushy or transactional.
  • [00:25:00] Trust Through Reputation and References
  • [00:32:00] Due Diligence Is Integration Planning 
  • [00:42:00] Navigating the hardest negotiations—convincing product teams that buying beats building
  • [00:53:00] Walking Away on Principle – The deal Andy killed because the other side wanted to hurt employee shareholders

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When Integration Beats Roll-Ups with Tim Hall20 Oct 202501:12:42
Tim Hall - Managing Partner and Founder, Brenton Point Capital

Tim brings 29 years of private equity experience to this conversation about what actually works in buy-and-build strategies. After launching Brenton Point in 2024 following a 20-year run at CI Capital Partners, where he completed 200+ acquisitions across 12 platforms, Tim breaks down the independent sponsor model and why integration—not just aggregation—is the real value driver. He walks through building platforms from scratch, the executive-first strategy for fragmented markets, and how standardized integration playbooks turn acquired companies into cohesive, high-performing businesses.


Things You'll Learn

  • Why independent sponsors can outperform traditional PE funds through concentrated investments, longer hold periods, and direct alignment with management teams earning 15% equity upside versus the typical 10%

  • The difference between roll-ups and consolidation and why integration excellence separates winning platforms from aggregated disasters

  • How to build platforms from scratch

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Episode Chapters

[00:02:00] The GE Capital Training Ground – How Tim's early experience with expert networks shaped his approach to surrounding deals with industry advisors who invest alongside him

[00:04:30] Starting companies with zero revenue by hiring CEOs first, then building deal pipelines in fragmented industries like funeral services

[00:06:00] Why deal-by-deal capital raising enables longer hold periods, eliminates fund-driven decisions, and captures more value creation in the back half

[00:11:30] Finding and Aligning Operators – Sourcing executives through recruiting firms willing to co-invest, and structuring 15% management equity pools for maximum alignment

[00:22:00] Using buy-side search firms to validate thesis and create deal flow before platform acquisition, touching 2,000+ companies to close 200 deals

[00:27:00] Why acquiring is easy but integrating is hard, and how culture assessment, facility tours, and team retention determine success

[00:49:00] Hub, Spoke, and Route Strategy – Three acquisition types for platform building: regional hubs with management depth, spoke deals for synergies, and route buys for pure customer acquisition

[00:52:00] The 150-Point Integration Playbook 

[00:58:30] One-Page Strategic Plans – Keeping teams aligned on priorities from monthly goals to five-year vision with a single dense but powerful reference document

[01:04:00] The Herd Mentality Warning – How quickly industries go from undiscovered to overcrowded, and why being the 30th platform in a space means you're already too late

Questions, comments, concerns?
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How to Start Executing the Roll Up Strategy in M&A06 May 202401:02:23

Ivan Golubic, CFO | Corporate Development M&A at FastLap Group

Roll ups are a great strategy for highly fragmented industries. It allows the platform company to increase its size, capabilities, and market presence through the acquisition and integration of other businesses. However, it can be challenging without a proper framework. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Ivan Golubic, CFO, Corporate Development M&A at FastLap Group, shares his experience on how to start executing roll up strategy in M&A from scratch. 

Things you will learn:

• Setting up the roll up strategy

• Valuation on roll up strategy

• Building the operating strategy

• Dealing with capital providers

• Biggest lessons learned doing roll up strategy

This episode is sponsored by the DealRoom.

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

03:01 Transitioning from Corporate Development to CFO 

07:39 Setting up the roll up strategy

12:26 Importance of industry expertise

14:10 Proactive approach to expanding industry expertise

16:11 Valuation on roll up strategy

22:10 Building the operating strategy

24:54 Dealing with capital providers

28:37 Building your pipeline

30:45 Pitching to the PE firm

35:48 Explaining your M&A process to investors

38:46 Building your M&A team

40:42 Monitoring Cost

42:05Success metrics

49:25 Utilizing Technology

50:45 Importance of a unified platform

52:58 Biggest lessons learned doing roll up strategy

56:39 Future trends in the roll up space

57:33 Craziest thing in M&A

 

How to Create an Executable Integration Plan During Due Diligence29 Apr 202400:59:45

Jim Buckley, Vice President, Mergers and Acquisitions Integration at VMware

Integration planning is one of the most important aspects of M&A pre-close. Planning after the fact will cause massive delays and value leaks for the entire deal. It is why the integration team must be involved during the due diligence phase. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we will talk about how to create an executable integration plan during the diligence, featuring Jim Buckley, Vice President, Mergers and Acquisitions Integration at VMware.

Things you will learn in this episode:

• How to work as an integration leader

• Building an integration plan

• Pre-LOI integration planning

• Connecting diligence with integration planning

• Defining 'done' in M&A integration

This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom.

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro
04:41 Navigating corporate transitions
08:31 Aligning the integration leader with the north star
10:02 How to work as an integration leader
11:25 The role of an integration lead
13:31 Building an integration plan
16:25 Focus on revenue and integration
18:51 Pre-LOI integration planning
25:08 M&A due diligence
27:37 Employee integration and customer satisfaction
29:56 Connecting diligence with integration planning
36:20 Approach to team collaboration
39:06 The details of integration plan
41:11 Complexities of M&A integration planning
44:57 Aligning with the target company
46:46 Defining 'done' in M&A integration
49:12 Integration teams leading due diligence
51:38 Leveraging diligence data for effective planning
53:13 Advice for M&A practitioners
55:45 Craziest thing in M&A

Uncovering Capital Allocation Strategies22 Apr 202401:09:07

Keith Levy, Operating Partner at Sonoma Brands

Every company must have a strong capital allocation strategy to maximize its potential. Without it, the company may end up missing opportunities and spending money on things that won't help it grow or become more profitable. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Keith Levy, Operating Partner at Sonoma Brands, shares his experience on successful and unsuccessful capital allocation strategies. 

Things you will learn in this episode:

• Strategy vs IRR

• Venture capital vs recapitalization strategy

• Minority vs majority recapitalization

• Evaluating exit strategy

This episode is sponsored by the DealRoom

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

11:27 Focusing on organic growth

16:37 Post-merger integration execution

25:01 Strategy vs IRR

26:59 Handling projections

28:07 Integration with Mars

36:20 Role of an operating partner

42:07 Big company vs Small company in M&A

43:39 Venture capital vs recapitalization strategy

48:44 Cashing out from an owner's perspective

50:42 Minority vs majority recapitalization

54:03 Impact of valuations and interest rates on investment decisions

59:07 Timing on investments

1:01:25 Evaluating exit strategy

1:03:46 Advice for practitioners

1:05:41 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Roll Up Strategy in Private Equity15 Apr 202400:58:30

Gerry Williams, Partner at DLA Piper US LLP and a member of their management committee.

Private equity firms are established for the sole purpose of generating substantial financial returns for its investors. And one of the most effective ways of maximizing investment returns is the roll up strategy. This involves buying small-sized businesses in a highly fragmented industry and combining them into a larger platform. The goal is to improve efficiency and be sold later for a higher price.  

In this episode of the M&A Science podcast, we will discuss roll up strategy in private equity with Gerry Williams, Partner at DLA Piper US LLP.

Things you will learn this episode:

• Industries susceptible to roll up strategy

• Challenges of executing roll up strategy

• Negotiating the LOI in roll up strategy

• Typical deal structure in roll up strategy

• Employing Earnouts in roll up strategy

This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

04:06 Industries susceptible to roll up strategy

06:22 The trend of roll up strategy in private equity

10:42 Complexities of Roll up strategy

15:52 Challenges of executing roll up strategy

20:32 How to mitigate risks

24:19 Managing multiple roll up businesses

26:49 Negotiating the LOI in roll up strategy

33:00 Breakup fees on private deals

35:57 Typical deal structure in roll up strategy

43:24 Employing Earnouts in roll up strategy

48:07 Unique negotiations during LOI

49:31 Do's and Don'ts of executing roll up strategy

52:57 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Corporate Diversification Through M&A08 Apr 202400:51:09

Tyler Rodewald, VP, M&A at EIS Holdings

In a world where change is the only constant, businesses are continually seeking innovative ways to stay ahead of the curve. One such method that has gained prominence is the corporate diversification strategy, a multifaceted approach that can lead to new growth avenues and enhanced resilience. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Tyler Rodewald, VP, M&A at EIS Holdings, discusses corporate diversification through M&A.

Things you will learn:

• Corporate diversification strategy

• Drivers of corporate diversification

• People involved in corporate diversification

• Projecting revenue synergies

• Closing deals with competition

This episode is brought to you by the M&A Science Spring Summit 2024 happening on April 10th at 10AM ET. It's your chance to join leading M&A experts as they share innovative and the latest trends from their own deals. Save your spot here.

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

02:55 Corporate diversification strategy

03:32 Drivers of corporate diversification

05:22 People involved in corporate diversification

08:00 Communicating the diversification strategy - The number one step

08:51 Customer overlaps on deals

11:17 Capital Allocation

13:41 Proprietary deal vs Bank Deal

15:22 Deal Sourcing

17:57 Closing deals with competition

19:22 Cultural integration

22:03 Handling resistance

23:21 Measuring Success

24:31 Projecting revenue synergies

26:09 Earnouts

30:31 Letter on intent exclusivity

32:10 Combining diligence with integration using DealRoom

36:42 Using DealRoom with Sellers

40:02 Advice for practitioners doing corporate diversification

40:30 AI in M&A

46:34 Craziest thing in M&A

 

 

 

Performing Strategic Due Diligence in M&A01 Apr 202400:54:11

Andrey Galiuk, Vice President of Corporate Development and Investor Relations

Before doing M&A, it is crucial for acquirers to target the right business, in the right market. Otherwise, it could potentially be a costly mistake that would waste the company's time and money. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Andrey Galiuk, Vice President of Corporate Development and Investor Relations, shares his expertise on how to perform strategic due diligence in M&A. 

Things you will learn:

• What is strategic due diligence

• How to perform strategic due diligence in M&A

• Entering the right market

• Finding the right target company

• Biggest challenge when performing strategic diligence

This episode is brought to you by the M&A Science Spring Summit 2024 happening on April 10th at 10AM ET. It's your chance to join leading M&A experts as they share innovative and the latest trends from their own deals. Save your spot here.

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

11:17 What is strategic due diligence

16:25 How to perform strategic due diligence in M&A

25:00 Entering the right market

38:05 Finding the right target company

41:25 When to perform strategic due diligence

42:38 Proactive vs. Reactive deal sourcing

44:33 Importance of culture

47:05 When to start integration planning

49:11 Red flags during strategic diligence

50:33 Assessing incoming people

51:20 Biggest challenge when performing strategic diligence

 

How to Stand Up a Venture Capital Arm25 Mar 202400:54:31

George Kellerman, VP, Head of Investments & Acquisitions at Woven by Toyota and Alexander Baum, Corporate Development Lead at Woven by Toyota

In the ever-evolving world of business, staying ahead isn't just about what a company does today, but how it prepares for tomorrow. This is where a venture capital arm comes into play. It is a specialized division within a larger company that focuses on investing in emerging startups and innovative projects. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, George Kellerman, VP, Head of Investments & Acquisitions at Woven by Toyota, and Alexander Baum, Corporate Development Lead at Woven by Toyota, share their experience on how to stand up a venture capital arm. 

Things you will learn:

• How did Woven by Toyota got started

• Successfully start a venture capital arm

• Leadership in managing people

• Biggest Lessons Learned

• Dealing with cultural difference

This episode is brought to you by the M&A Science Spring Summit 2024 happening on April 10th at 10AM ET. It's your chance to join leading M&A experts as they share innovative and the latest trends from their own deals. Save your spot here.

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Episode Bookmarks

*George Kellerman

00:00 Intro

06:15 From firefighter to M&A

09:49 How did Woven by Toyota got started

11:19 Project Kate

12:58 Pitching the shift in strategy

14:31 Woven Capital's strategy

16:48 How to successfully start a venture capital arm

19:45 Leadership in managing people

22:03 Biggest lessons learned

26:00 A change in strategy

27:04 The Woven City Project

31:11 Dealing with cultural difference

35:40 Craziest thing in M&A

*Alex Baum

39:34 Noticing cultural differences in Japan

42:11 Relocating to Tokyo

44:07 New York vs Japan culture

45:28 Work culture in Japan

48:32 Rubber stamp approval in Japan

49:51 Balancing American and Japanese culture

51:27 Maintaining alignment

52:09 Craziest thing in M&A

 

How to Achieve Strategic Alignment From Top to Bottom18 Mar 202400:55:07

Camilo Franco, Director, M&A Integration and Operations at Jamf

There is an intimate tie between M&A strategy and corporate strategy. To be truly effective, acquisitions must directly support the overarching goal of the company. But beyond that, there needs to be a strategic alignment with everyone involved. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Camilo Franco, Director, M&A Integration and Operations at Jamf, shares their secrets on how to achieve strategic alignment from top to bottom. 

Things you will learn:

• How to achieve strategic alignment

• Strategies for effectively communicating M&A plans

• Tools used to maintain alignment

• Connecting diligence and Integration

• Advice for integration practitioners

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This episode is brought to you by the M&A Science Spring Summit 2024 happening on April 10th at 10AM ET. It's your chance to join leading M&A experts as they share innovative and the latest trends from their own deals. Save your spot here.

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

08:45 Definition of strategic alignment

10:31 How to achieve strategic alignment

12:51 Relaying M&A strategy against corporate strategy

13:54 Getting buy-in from team members

15:37 Overcoming anti-M&A culture

18:44 Strategies for effectively communicating M&A plans

21:21 Alignment with the integration team

23:51 Formulating the integration thesis

26:37 Role of steering committee

28:04 Communicating decisions with the broader organization

29:30 Managing integration without IMO

32:09 Ensuring company readiness for integration

34:11 Gauging M&A readiness

36:06 Side effects of burnout people

37:25 Defining the end of integration

39:30 Tools used to maintain alignment

43:32 Agile M&A

44:46 Connecting diligence and integration

48:13 Using integration templates

50:36 Advice for integration p

 
Performing Cultural Due Diligence to Better Understand the Target Company13 Mar 202400:41:57

Ken Bond, Head of Corporate Development at Cetera Financial Group.

Most of the biggest M&A failures of all time are caused by culture clashes. Both companies cannot simply co-exist with each other, and instead of creating more value, they destroyed both of their businesses. This is why cultural due diligence is crucial in M&A. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Ken Bond, Head of Corporate Development at Cetera Financial Group, shares his expertise on how to perform cultural due diligence to better understand the target company.

Things you will learn:

• The person responsible for cultural due diligence

• Executing cultural due diligence

• Using Playbooks

• Successful partnership between Corporate Development and Integration

• Advice for practitioners

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This episode is sponsored by the DealRoom

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

05:11 Person responsible for cultural due diligence

05:54 Importance of cultural due diligence

08:08 Executing cultural due diligence

10:29 Killing the deal due to cultural conflict

14:54 Using Playbooks

17:31 Cultural due diligence during early conversations

20:12 Understanding how the target company makes decisions

22:40 Things to look for during due diligence

25:09 Using questionnaires for cultural due diligence

27:08 Bilateral deal vs. Auction process

30:10 Hardest part of cultural due diligence

32:27 Successful partnership between Corporate Development and Integration

35:33 Subculture due diligence

37:07 Advice for practitioners

38:31 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Strategic Alignment Between M&A and Corporate Strategy11 Mar 202401:07:21

Baljit Singh, Former SVP, Global Head of Corporate Development at Nielsen Ventures

Engaging in M&A activities just for the sake of doing them is one of the biggest reasons for failed deals. Without a well-defined purpose, these transactions can distract the business and waste massive amounts of resources. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Baljit Singh, Former SVP, Global Head of Corporate Development at Nielsen Ventures, discusses the importance of strategic alignment between M&A and corporate strategy.

Things you will learn:

• Corporate strategy vs M&A strategy

• Getting the strategy right

• Capital allocation

• Measuring business unit's success

• Deal structure to preserve cash

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This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom. 

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

05:10 Corporate strategy vs M&A strategy

09:25 Getting the strategy right

11:17 Best ways to pitch deals

13:09 Pillars of corporate strategy

15:50 Capital allocation

21:06 Measuring business unit's success

24:52 Holding business units accountable

27:20 Why take a public company private

33:51 Steps to take a public company to private

38:11 Real life examples

48:29 Deal structure to preserve cash

54:45 Dealing with reluctant seller

59:30 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Buyer-Led M&A™ Strategy at Snowflake with Stefan WIlliams06 Oct 202500:55:46
Stefan Williams - Vice President of Corporate Development and Snowflake Ventures at Snowflake

Stefan Williams, Vice President of Corporate Development and Snowflake Ventures at Snowflake, leads the company's acquisition strategy, corporate venture capital, and startup accelerator programs. In this episode, Stefan takes us inside Snowflake's disciplined, culture-first approach to M&A—from building the corporate development function from scratch to executing 20+ acquisitions while maintaining breakneck organic growth. He shares hard-won lessons on integration accountability, why relationships matter more than auctions, and how to balance proactive deal-making with the realities of a fast-moving AI landscape.


Things You'll Learn

  • Start small and build M&A muscle – Why Snowflake began with sub-50 person acquisitions to prove integration capabilities before scaling to larger, more complex deals

  • Integration accountability drives success – The critical importance of assigning DRIs (Directly Responsible Individuals) with clear timelines at 30, 60, 90, and 180 days post-close

  • Buyer-led beats reactive – How investing time in proactive CEO relationships and strategic alignment dramatically improves deal outcomes versus responding to banker processes

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The Buyer-Led M&A™ Summit is back.
The virtual event built for dealmakers who want to eliminate chaos and take control from sourcing through integration.

📅 October 30, 2025
🕚 11:00 AM – 2:30 PM ET
💻 Free & Virtual

Learn from leaders who've built scalable, repeatable strategies that keep deals on track - Register now.

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Join us for the 3rd M&A Science Fair IN PERSON

Get pure, off-the-record collaboration between corporate development, private equity, and integration leaders. Instead of passive listening, you'll be sharing real frameworks, trading ideas, and testing what actually works in modern deal execution. Everything's practitioner-led, and every topic is surfaced by the attendees themselves.

October 16th — NYC
8AM-7:30PM
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Episode Chapters

[00:02:30] From Banking to Building – Stefan's journey from investment banking to building corporate development teams at ServiceNow and Snowflake

[00:04:30] How the "amp it up" mentality shapes every aspect of operations, including M&A strategy

[00:07:00] Why high-growth companies must begin with digestible acquisitions to develop integration capabilities

[00:10:00] Week One Playbook – How to build a corporate development function from scratch by interviewing product leaders and aligning on strategy

[00:14:00] Managing internal relationships across product, engineering, and go-to-market to maintain strategic clarity

[00:21:00] Strategic Ventures, Not Financial Bets

[00:27:00] Integration DRIs and the Marriage Analogy 

[00:37:30] Managing Three Concurrent Deals 

[00:42:00] Why nearly all 20 Snowflake acquisitions involved prior relationships and how buyer-led strategy wins

[00:48:30] Navigating the AI Explosion – Staying current in a landscape where companies scale from zero to $100M in years, not decades

Questions, comments, concerns?
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Overcoming M&A Challenges06 Mar 202400:56:33

Douglas Barnard, former Executive Vice President, Corporate Development and Legal Advisor at CF Industries (NYSE: CF)

Problems don't usually surface at the early stages because it's the honeymoon phase. Both the buyer and the seller would like to see the deal happen, so they work together to build momentum. And often that means postponing dealing with some of the more difficult and contentious issues. However, these M&A challenges are inevitable and will arise as the deal progresses. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Douglas Barnard, former Executive Vice President, Corporate Development and Legal Advisor at CF Industries, discusses effective strategies to overcome M&A challenges.

Things you will learn:

• Mindset to prepare for M&A

• Overcoming M&A Challenges Between Signing and Closing

• Mitigating Post-Merger Integration Risks

• Biggest Challenges in M&A

• Advice for First-time Acquirers

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

05:26 Mindset to prepare for M&A

10:26 Strategic Negotiation Tactics

13:03 Having a Foundation of Trust and Honesty

17:31 Assessing Buyer Transparency in Deal Negotiations

20:17 Mastering Valuation and Identifying Synergies

22:43 Identifying and Overcoming Obstacles in the M&A Process

24:40 Uncovering Surprises in Due Diligence

28:53 Utilizing a Private Investigator (PI) in a Deal

29:57 Navigating Complex Negotiation Stages

33:54 Zero-Sum Scenarios in M&A Auctions

35:51 Valuation and Auction Bidding Strategies

37:57 Overcoming M&A Challenges Between Signing and Closing

41:29 Mitigating Post-Merger Integration Risks

46:16 Biggest Challenges in M&A

50:24 Advice for First-time Acquirers

52:51 Craziest thing in M&A

 

How Business Cycles Affect M&A Valuation04 Mar 202400:54:21

Allan Marks, Global Project, Energy & Infrastructure Partner at Milbank

M&A valuation isn't just about looking at the numbers. There are a lot of different factors that affect and contribute to the volatility of the M&A market. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Allan Marks, Global Project, Energy & Infrastructure Partner at Milbank, discusses how business cycles affect M&A valuation.

Things you will learn:

• What is a business cycle

• What is a credit cycle

• How business cycle impact M&A valuation

• Common Mistake during M&A valuation

• Importance of culture in M&A

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

11:00 What is a business cycle

12:41 What is a credit cycle

16:59 Cycle's impact on energy sector

19:09 How business cycle impact M&A valuation

22:36 Industries most affected by the cycles

26:43 M&A valuation for first-timers

31:47 Importance of culture in M&A

34:23 When to pull of a deal

37:37 Example of failed deals

41:59 Example of good deals

45:43 Common Mistake during M&A valuation

46:43 M&A function maturity

48:02 Other early M&A considerations

49:15 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Validating the Acquisition Plan28 Feb 202400:47:20

Adam Harris, CEO of Cloudbeds

When executing M&A, having a structured approach to validating the acquisition plan is crucial. The worst thing any acquirer can do is to buy a business that doesn't bring value to the parent company.

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Adam Harris, CEO of Cloudbeds, shares the meticulous 6-step process his company uses to validate their acquisition plan. 

Things you will learn:

• Surveying Customers

• Industry Trend Analysis

• Partner vs Build Analysis

• Formulating the strategic rationale

• In-depth Company Analysis and Product Demos

• Drafting a detailed memo

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

08:45 Approaching M&A

18:20 Surveying Customers

23:47 Industry Trend Analysis

28:13 Partner vs Build Analysis

34:12 Formulating the strategic rationale

36:50 In-depth Company Analysis and Product Demos

41:18 Drafting a detailed memo

44:15 Pitching M&A to the board

44:54 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Mastering M&A Integration26 Feb 202400:49:55

Seema Nimmagadda, Head of M&A Integration for North America at Woven by Toyota

A lot of times, M&A integration is considered only after closing the deal. It is often treated as an afterthought, and this approach is where many deal failures stem from. If we want to improve our M&A process and get better results from deals, we have to start updating our practices to the most efficient way of doing things. 

In this episode of the M&A Science podcast, Seema Nimmagadda, Head of M&A Integration for North America at Woven by Toyota, discusses how to master M&A integration.

Things you will learn in this episode:

• The Ideal Integration Process

• M&A Integration planning pre-LOI

• Setting up an early version of the IMO

• Detailing the M&A Integration Strategy

• Aligning deal goals with integration strategy

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

04:00 Toyota's Woven Business Unit

05:00 The Ideal Integration Process

06:53 The Importance of Integration Capabilities

08:52 Integration planning pre-LOI

11:50 Ensuring Adequate Resources and Capabilities during M&A Integrations

13:27 Avoiding early pitfalls for integration

14:40 Key integration milestones from LOI to Close

18:53 Aligning the IMO and Corporate Development

21:49 Adapting mature M&A teams to change

23:28 Setting up an early version of the IMO

25:04 Key people in forming an early IMO

26:16 Detailing the Integration Strategy

29:09 Balancing team autonomy in integration planning

31:56 Maintaining collaboration and progress in integration

34:24 Managing cross-functional dependencies

35:16 Tech stack diversity

36:41 M&A execution checkpoints

38:04 Information gathering challenges pre-close

39:08 Managing vendor dependencies and ensuring transparency

40:12 Balancing functional plans with the master integration strategy

42:04 Securing stakeholder buy-in

43:04 Risks of overlooking integration

44:03 Aligning deal goals with integration strategy

44:36 Identifying when an M&A integration is complete

46:25 Best practices for smooth post-close integrations

46:59 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Using M&A Best Practices to Get Better Deals21 Feb 202400:50:34

Brent Baxter, Chief Executive Officer at Association for Corporate Growth, and Jeff Giles, VP, Corporate Development at Core & Main (NYSE: CNM)

In a highly competitive market, speed is crucial for companies wanting to do M&A. Especially with all the economic and market changes that's happening, professionals must use M&A best practices to get better deals. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Brent Baxter, Chief Executive Officer at Association for Corporate Growth, and Jeff Giles, VP, Corporate Development at Core & Main, share their strategies and experiences when executing successful M&A. 

Things you will learn:

• Target outreach

• Best practices when building relationships 

• Challenges of working with private sellers

• Executing agile and efficient Diligence

• Role of technology in the M&A process

This episode is sponsored by the DealRoom.

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

07:12 Getting deals faster

10:35 Target outreach

15:54 Best practices when building relationships

19:47 How to best optimize ACG

22:46 M&A challenges

25:20 Challenges of working with private sellers

29:39 Executing agile and efficient Diligence

34:53 Executing deals during COVID

39:59 Role of technology in the M&A process

42:06 Role of technology in the future

46:47 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Connecting Diligence and Integration in M&A19 Feb 202401:03:50

Amy M. Weck, VP, M&A and integrations at The Liberty Company Insurance Brokers, LLC

It's common to see due diligence and integration as separate stages, but combining them can make the M&A process much smoother and more effective. But how exactly can we weave these two critical phases together effectively? 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Amy M. Weck, VP, M&A and integrations at The Liberty Company Insurance Brokers, offers practical strategies to align integration and diligence for optimal outcomes.

Things you will learn in the episode:

• Merging separate integration departments

• How to connect diligence and integration

• Fostering a 'One Team' Mindset

• Maintaining Team Rhythm in High-Volume Acquisitions


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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

04:26 Getting into M&A

06:12 Evolving into integration

07:55 Transitioning from deal team to integration team

09:26 Pre-LOI considerations in M&A

10:40 Merging Corp Dev and Integration Team

13:26 The impact of mindset during transition

15:26 Connecting the two functions

18:42 Keeping teams and workflows aligned

22:14 Biggest challenge in the transition

24:05 The challenge of change management

26:11 Managing new hires in key roles

27:29 Key advice for managing the end-to-end M&A process

34:37 Optimizing the M&A function for a roll-up

36:21 Practical Tips for Learning from Past Due Diligence

38:16 Maintaining Team Rhythm in High-Volume Acquisitions

40:05 Key Strategies to Avoid Failing in Your Integrations

42:02 Key Questions to Ask Before the LOI

43:17 Evaluating Cultural Fit and Red Flags

48:15 Ideal candidate for an M&A role

59:44 Advice to first-time M&A practitioners

1:01:02 Craziest thing in M&A

How to Bridge Valuation Gaps in M&A14 Feb 202400:55:16

John Blair, Partner M&A Attorney at K&L Gates

In M&A, it's very common for buyers and sellers to disagree on the value of the business. If both parties cannot agree on the price, the deal could fall apart. However there are certain strategies and tools that both parties can use to compromise and be happy during closing. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, John Blair, Partner M&A Attorney at K&L Gates, shares best practices on how to bridge valuation gaps in M&A. 

Things you will learn in this episode:

•Bridging gaps in M&A Valuation

•Earnouts 

•Seller Financing

•Equity structure 

•Market's impact on Bridging M&A Valuation Gaps

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

04:13 When to get involved in the M&A Process

07:50 Negotiations during LOI

09:42 Bridging gaps in M&A Valuation

11:09 Using Holdbacks to Bridge M&A Valuation Gaps

13:20 Seller Financing

15:00 Earnouts

16:43 Earnouts on Intellectual Property

18:45 Key Variables in an Earnout

23:14 Earnout payment structure

25:53 Making Earnouts Successful

29:08 Structures of Seller Financing

36:24 Traditional terms of seller financing

38:20 Equity structure

41:04 Stock options

43:52 Minimizing the cash upfront during a sale

46:34 Contents of Letter of Intent

49:14 Advice for first timers

50:01 Craziest Thing in M&A

 

Transforming Existing Staff into M&A Experts12 Feb 202401:02:07

In the dynamic world of mergers and acquisitions (M&A), creating an effective team is crucial for success. This process can be complex and demanding, but also immensely rewarding. After all, having an internal team means having the capability of acquiring companies in the future, rather than treating M&A as a one-time event. 

In this episode, Birgitta Elfversson, Non-Executive Director at Netlight, shares her experience in transforming existing staff into M&A experts. 

Things you will learn from this episode:

• Shaping the M&A strategy

• Building an M&A team

• Scaling the M&A Team

• Recruiting competent people

• Managing burnout

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

10:54 Shaping the M&A strategy

12:46 Key elements of the strategy

14:58 Strategy approval

16:10 Challenges on the first acquisition

18:30 Building an M&A team 

22:05 Scaling the M&A Team

25:10 Recruiting competent people

26:44 M&A Aptitude test

32:48 Working with consulting firms during M&A

37:17 Setting the external team up for success

39:08 M&A Team structure

39:48 Managing burnout

43:18 Programmatic M&A

49:09 Start up doing M&A

51:47 Integration execution

53:19 Smart collaboration in the future

55:51 Setting integration up for success

58:20 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Negotiating Cross Border M&A07 Feb 202400:33:44

Jake Lin, Head of Corporate Development at Xendit

Navigating cross border M&A is one of the most challenging tasks for deal makers. There are a lot of intricacies involved that are unique to each country, and must be handled delicately. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Jake Lin, Head of Corporate Development at Xendit, shares his best practices when executing cross border M&A, particularly in South East Asia. 

Things you will learn:

  • Biggest challenge in Cross Border M&A

  • Language barrier during Cross border M&A

  • Managing Cultural Differences during negotiations

  • Cross border M&A best practices

  • Integration approach to cross border M&A

This episode is sponsored by the DealRoom.

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

05:44 Biggest challenge in Cross Border M&A

08:18 Cross Border M&A without Bankers 

09:04 Working with Local Bankers

09:55 Language barrier during Cross border M&A

12:05 Managing Cultural Differences during negotiations

16:01 Managing the Speed of Cross border M&A

17:20 Cultural Differences almost killing the deal

18:48 Countries easiest to work with

21:06 Cross border M&A best practices

22:32 Strategic tips when dealing with Cross border M&A

23:49 Integration approach to cross border M&A

25:37 Negotiating Payment terms

28:59 Computation for stock payments

30:06 Advice for first-timers

30:29 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Achieving Business Growth Through Strategic M&A05 Feb 202400:45:58

Yoav Zeif, CEO at Stratasys

In today's competitive global market, organizations need to leverage every tool in their arsenal to stay ahead of the curve. One of the best ways to do this is strategic M&A. With the right approach, M&A can drive significant growth, unlock fresh opportunities, and expedite the achievement of strategic business goals. In this article, Yoav Zeif, CEO at Stratasys, shares his experience on achieving business growth through strategic M&A.

Things you will learn in this episode:

•The Start of their M&A Journey

•Strategic M&A framework

•Evolution of Strategy

•Working with the corporate development team

•How to ensure positive business outcomes during integration

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

07:04 Start of M&A Journey

11:56 M&A strategy framework

18:58 Real-life acquisition scenario

20:20 Evolution of Strategy

23:59 Working with the corporate development team

26:29 Corporate development teams pitching deals

30:22 How to ensure positive business outcomes during integration

31:57 Big lessons learned

39:18 Retaining key people

40:26 Other lessons

42:42 Craziest Thing in M&A

 

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Corporate Development Strategy: Notion's M&A Approach with Hilary Shirazi30 Sep 202501:02:21
Hilary Shirazi - Head of Corporate Development at Notion

Hilary Shirazi, Head of Corporate Development at Notion, brings over a decade of M&A experience from LinkedIn, Pinterest, and Zendesk to discuss building corporate development strategy at high-growth tech companies. She shares her proven deal thesis methodology, the "Four T's" framework for categorizing acquisitions, and why integration without an IMO might be the better approach for agile teams.


Things you will learn:

  • The Deal Thesis Framework – How to crystallize strategy before identifying targets using Hilary's proven document template

  • The Four T's of M&A – Talent, Tech, Traction, and Terrain categories that determine your acquisition approach and integration strategy

  • Integration Without IMO – Why embedding integration throughout the process beats traditional handoff models for most deals

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Episode Chapters

[00:02:00] Hilary's career evolution and why in-house M&A beats advisory work

[00:05:00] Building M&A Best Practices – Why starting at a mature organization teaches critical fundamentals before going solo

[00:08:30] Getting to know executives' M&A fears and biases before sourcing deals

[00:11:00] The Deal Thesis Methodology – Creating strategy documents before naming targets to avoid "solution shopping"

[00:16:00] Deal Sponsor Selection

[00:20:00] Front-Loading Vision Alignment 

[00:30:00] The Four T's Framework – Categorizing acquisitions as Talent, Tech, Traction, or Terrain deals

[00:35:00] Integration Without IMO – Why Corp Dev should own integration instead of handing off to separate teams

[00:42:00] Using Notion for M&A

[00:51:00] AI in Corporate Development 

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The Challenges of Sell-Side M&A31 Jan 202400:56:18

Russ Heddleston, Co-founder & former CEO, DocSend

Every owner loves their business. This makes selling their company even harder than it already is. But aside from the emotional turmoil that founders go through every exit, there are also a lot of intricacies included in the process. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Russ Heddleston, Co-founder & former CEO of DocSend, discusses the challenges of sell-side M&A.

Things you will also learn in this episode:

  • Considerations in Potentially Selling a Startup

  • Challenges of sell-side M&A

  • Key Factors for a Successful Exit 

  • How to manage diligence in sell-side M&A

Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

04:10 Starting DocSend 

06:08 Identifying the Inflection Point to sell

09:01 Selling a Startup

10:46 Considerations in Potentially Selling a Startup

14:28 Best Time for an Exit

16:00 Balancing Stakeholder Interests in an Acquisition

17:50 Relationship Management in an Acquisition

19:46 How Relationships Influence Negotiations

20:41 Relationships with Bankers

23:14 Reaching out to DropBox

26:16 Key Factors for a Successful Exit

28:04 Impact of Market Conditions on M&A

28:45 The Unknowns of Selling a Business

30:53 Post-Acquisition Challenges and Unknowns

32:34 Enhancing Preparation for Post-Close Integration

34:05 Tips for Buyers for Smoother Integration

35:18 Challenges of Sell-side M&A

37:15 Efficiently Managing Diligence

38:46 People involved from pre-LOI to Close

41:36 Post-Acquisition Team Dynamics

43:01 Evaluating Alternatives to Selling

48:28 Fundraising Strategies to Minimize Dilution

49:44 Advice for Acquirers Seeking Successful Acquisitions

51:29 Effective Strategies for Corporate Leaders to Engage with Founders

53:14 Craziest thing in M&A

 

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Pros and Cons for a Growth Company to Take PE Capital29 Jan 202401:24:51

Jason Mironov, Managing Director at TA Associates

Partnering with PE firms is a great way to exponentially grow a business and reach new heights. However, there are considerations that must be taken into account, before taking PE capital. Fully understanding them will increase chances of success, in the attempt to unlock the full potential of the business.

In this episode of the M&A Science podcast, Jason Mironov, Managing Director at TA Associates, discusses the pros and cons of taking PE capital.

Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

05:29 The Lack of Operating Experience

07:03 Pros of taking money from a private equity firm

11:01 Other factors to take money from PE firms

12:49 Cons of taking money from private equity

17:16 Focusing on IRR

22:10 Culture of focusing on numbers

26:54 Working with Unhappy CEO

30:06 Board control

35:33 Expectation for the Board Structure

38:30 Dilution for founders

42:53 How to build and preserve wealth

47:20 Approach on partnership

51:03 Handling Inbound Contacts

56:51 Creating value before partnership starts

01:03:15 Working with the founder

01:05:38 Pushing M&A to portcos

01:08:51 Founder Exit

01:16:01 Timeline of investment

01:20:26 Craziest thing in M&A

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Selling a Small Business Unit24 Jan 202400:53:03

Michael Frankel, Founder and Managing Partner of Trajectory Capital

When times are good, big companies tend to ignore their smaller business units, as they operate smoothly on their own. It is only when the economy gets tough that these little businesses get more attention, and often seen as off-strategy or a distraction. That's when the company's leaders decide it's time to sell them, which is not ideal, as the business is no longer in their prime, making it harder to sell. 

In this episode of M&A Science podcast, Michael Frankel, Founder and Managing Partner of Trajectory Capital, joins us to share his best practices of selling a small business unit.

Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

03:35 The decision to sell a business

05:01 Reasons to sell the business

06:43 Steps in selling a small business unit

09:59 Finding buyers

11:53 Avoid using bankers

13:30 Pitching the deal

14:50 Avoiding non-serious buyers

16:42 Important factors other than price

23:01 Real life example

27:54 Valuation gap

30:29 Evaluating the business

34:45 Hardest part of selling a small business unit

37:03 Advice for first time buyers

41:48 Proactively approaching a seller

47:25 Earnouts on small deals

48:44 Craziest Thing in M&A

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How to Create a Positive Exit Experience in M&A22 Jan 202400:53:32

Swapnil Shinde, CEO at Zeni 

Selling your business is never easy. Aside from the emotional stress that it provides, it can also be detrimental to the business if it's sold to the wrong company. Oftentimes, during the process, it can also serve as a massive distraction to the operations, harming the business in the process. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we will discuss how to create a positive exit experience in M&A with Swapnil Shinde, CEO at Zeni. 

Things you will learn:

• Reasons for the first exit

• Reacting vs Proactive Exits

• Hardest part of selling a business

• Role of sellers in Integration Planning

• Do's and Don'ts of Buying a company

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

06:31 Reasons for the first exit

09:19 Venture Exit

12:19 Build to sell

14:03 Reacting vs Proactive Exits

16:28 Using Bankers during Exits

19:09 Hardest part of selling a business

21:30 Managing Diligence

24:28 Lessons Learned on Diligence

28:03 Keeping and building relationships

29:29 Role of sellers in Integration Planning

32:29 Reasons why Integration fails

34:49 Worst exit experience

36:31 Making integration successful

38:25 Do's and Don'ts of Buying a company

39:41 Identifying Cultural Fit

 

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Realizing Revenue Synergies in M&A15 Jan 202400:51:28

Chris Von Bogdandy, Global Lead M&A Solutions at Slalom

Revenue synergies are why you're doing the deal in the first place. But unlike cost synergies that happen instantly, revenue synergies are more difficult to achieve and often go unrealized. One of the biggest problems in M&A is that when a company pursues a deal, different departments have varying perspectives on what's essential. So how do you maintain the deal thesis as a central focus?

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Chris Von Bogdandy, Global Lead M&A Solutions at Slalom, discusses his framework for realizing revenue synergies in M&A.

Things you will learn:

•Importance of Revenue Synergies

•Correlation between M&A strategy and Revenue Synergies

•Understanding Customer Journey 

•Planning for Revenue Synergies Pre-LOI

•Agile M&A

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

06:17 Importance of Revenue Synergies

09:58 Correlation between M&A strategy and Revenue Synergies

16:42 Timeline of Revenue Synergies

18:49 Realistic Revenue Synergies

21:14 Understanding Customer Journey

24:44 Planning for Revenue Synergies Pre-LOI

27:38 Capturing Revenue Synergies Post-LOI

31:04 Executing the Plan

34:21 Cross-Functional Work Streams

36:29 New product introduction process

40:15 Agile M&A

43:31 Disbanding team and workstreams

46:57 Top three principles to success

48:48 Advice for next generation of young leaders in M&A

 

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Focusing on ESG in M&A08 Jan 202400:48:55

Casey Nault, Senior Vice President, General Counsel and Chief ESG Officer at Coeur Mining, Inc. (NYSE: CDE)

ESG in M&A is very real. And while it is a fairly new term, it represents a range of critical issues and priorities that companies have long considered. In many ways, ESG has always been important and is essential for risk management and maintaining company value, even for for-profit organizations. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we will discuss how to focus on ESG in M&A, featuring Casey Nault, SVP, General Counsel, and Chief ESG Officer at Coeur Mining, Inc.

Things you will learn:

•Importance of ESG in M&A

•Balancing ESG and profit

•ESG diligence 

•Red flags during ESG diligence 

•ESG on cross-border deals

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

07:31 M&A in the Mining Industry

09:26 Valuation and Deal Structures in the Mining Industry

13:51 Foreign Corrupt Practices Act

15:57 Importance of ESG

20:13 Disaggregating ESG

21:49 Sustainability in today's market

24:04 Balancing ESG and profit

26:52 ESG considerations during M&A

30:58 Evolution of ESG approach

32:41 ESG diligence

33:35 Red flags during ESG diligence

35:31 Deal Stoppers

36:36 Designated person sustainability

37:17 Diligence Execution during M&A

39:19 ESG on cross-border deals

40:55 Negotiations on cross border deals

42:47 Advice for practitioners

43:18 Craziest thing in M&A

 

How Not to Bomb Your First M&A Deal01 Jan 202400:45:14

Brock Blake, Co-Founder and CEO at Lendio

M&A is a never-ending web of complexities and challenges. While the potential for growth and transformation is promising, the chances of failure are extremely high. To increase chances of success, acquirers must learn how to be adaptable and work with the target company for alignment. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Brock Blake, Co-Founder and CEO of Lendio, shares their approach on how not to bomb your first M&A deal. 

You will learn:

• How to drive your first deal

• Understanding the cultural aspect of M&A 

• Strategizing acquisitions

• Validating assumptions before acquisition commitment

• Budget allocation for an earnout

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

06:02 Getting into M&A

07:14 First deals and their drivers

10:43 Second Acquisition

14:49 Third Acquisition

18:43 Understanding the cultural aspect

25:17 The new deal approach

29:10 Strategizing acquisitions

32:07 Validating assumptions before acquisition commitment

38:14 Budget allocation for an earnout

41:37 Craziest thing in M&A

The Basics of M&A Integration Execution25 Dec 202301:13:48

Aaron Whiting, Chief of Staff at Crownpeak

Value creation in any acquisition relies heavily on how well the M&A integration goes. By focusing on integration, buyers can increase their chances of success in obtaining and realizing their intended synergies. But how well can it go if the company's integration lead is a first-timer? 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Learn the basics of M&A integration execution, with Aaron Whiting, Chief of Staff at Crownpeak.

You will learn:

  • How to coach a first-time integration leader

  • Getting ready for day one

  • Kickoff meeting strategies

  • Challenges during integration

  • Setting alignment for kickoff meetings

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. 

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit  www.mascience.com/academy. 

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Episode Bookmark

00:00 Intro
05:09 Coaching an integration lead
06:33 Involving the Integration Lead
12:42 Integration on Day one
17:49 Getting ready for Day one
22:31 M&A teams to pull in for integration
25:41 Kickoff meeting strategies
31:12 Maintaining regular cadence for good progress
35:53 Umbrella track
37:47 How to track integration activities
42:38 Challenges during integration
47:55 Mechanical things that could go wrong during integration
52:59 Setting alignment for kickoff meetings
56:26 What success looks like through stories
01:01:50 How to know when the integration is complete
01:03:42 Advice for first timers
01:07:48 Craziest thing in M&A

ChatGPT Interview: AI's Impact on M&A20 Dec 202300:47:15

ChatGPT Voice, powered by OpenAI

This past year, AI has revolutionized the way we do things, and ChatGPT has been a big part of that. Created by OpenAI, ChatGPT can understand and use language like a human, making it extremely useful in a lot of different areas. And now, we can actually talk to it. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we are introducing our first-ever ChatGPT interview. We are going to learn its insights on AI's impact on the world of M&A. 

You will learn more about:

  • AI's role in deal sourcing

  • Streamlining due diligence using AI

  • Future of M&A

  • Limitations of AI

  • ChatGPT's advice on integrating AI into M&A

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. 

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit  www.mascience.com/academy. 

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net.

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

03:06 Revolutionizing M&A with AI

03:53 AI's role in Deal sourcing

08:08 AI's role in deal valuation process

12:41 Limitations of ChatGPT

14:05 Streamlining due diligence

18:00 AI's impact on M&A integration

22:10 Case Study: Daimler Chrysler merger

25:15 Case Study: Amazon acquiring Whole Foods

28:14 Future of M&A

30:23 DealRoom

32:40 How to incorporate AI into DealRoom

35:57 Positive business outcomes using DealRoom

37:41 Ethical Considerations Using AI

39:28 Limitations of AI

41:04 Advice on integrating AI into M&A

43:10 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Automation in M&A18 Dec 202300:44:25

Dr. Karl-Michael Popp, Senior Director, Corporate Development at SAP (FRA: SAP)

In today's digital era, the pervasive influence of technology is felt in every facet of business, and Mergers and Acquisitions (M&A) are no different. The arrival of innovation and automation will soon make their way to the industry, streamlining processes that could bolster productivity and facilitate smoother post-merger integration. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Dr. Karl Michael Popp, Senior Director, Corporate Development at SAP, discusses in detail automation in M&A.

Things you will learn:

  • Measuring Strategy during automation

  • Strategic Fit Analysis

  • Identifying Targets

  • Quantifying culture in M&A

  • Impact of new emerging technologies in M&A

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. 

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit  www.mascience.com/academy. 

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

07:10 Measuring Strategy

10:00 Structuring Strategies

13:53 Quantifying Metadata

16:24 Breaking it down into details to complete the strategy

18:49 Strategic Fit Analysis

20:06 Identifying Targets

22:40 Cascading of Strategy

25:33 Changing the strategy

27:11 Learning from the target company

31:18 Quantifying culture in M&A

32:47 Impact of new emerging technologies in M&A

34:50 Automation in M&A

39:27 The late evolution of M&A

40:51 Craziest thing in M&A

 

How Corporate Venture Capital 2.0 is Reshaping M&A with Jennifer Miller23 Sep 202500:50:41
Jennifer Miller - Senior Director of Corporate Development, Oshkosh Corporation

Jennifer Miller, Senior Director of Corporate Development at Oshkosh Corporation, brings over 24 years of M&A experience spanning investment banking, boutique advisory, and corporate development. In this episode, she reveals how Oshkosh evolved their corporate venture capital approach from CVC 1.0's financial focus to CVC 2.0's strategic innovation partnerships. Jennifer shares practical insights on managing 400+ deal flow annually, structuring IP agreements, and balancing minority investments with traditional M&A within a single corporate development function.


 Things You'll Learn

  • CVC 2.0 Framework: How to evolve from pure financial returns to strategic innovation partnerships that accelerate technology adoption

  • Deal Flow Management: Systematic approach to evaluate 400+ companies annually using thematic prioritization and rapid technical diligence

  • IP Structuring: Strategic methods for negotiating exclusivity, co-development agreements, and future acquisition rights without limiting startup growth

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Episode Chapters

[00:02:30] Corporate Development Evolution – Jennifer's 24-year journey from investment banking to strategic partnerships

[00:05:00] CVC 2.0 Philosophy – Shifting from financial investments to innovation-first partnerships

[00:10:00] Balancing M&A and CVC – Managing traditional acquisitions alongside minority investments in one team

[00:16:00] Proof of Concept Budget – How Oshkosh funds cross-business unit technology pilots

[00:20:30] Deal Flow Sourcing – Processing 400+ companies annually through thematic prioritization

[00:24:00] IP and Acquisition Rights – Structuring exclusivity and information rights without limiting startup exits

[00:31:00] Strategic Value Proposition – What startups gain from corporate investors beyond capital

[00:36:00] Integration Management – Preventing startup overwhelm while ensuring technology adoption

[00:41:30] Startup Positioning Advice – How entrepreneurs should approach strategic versus financial investors

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Executing Smaller Deals and Negotiating Key Legal Provisions11 Dec 202300:48:09

Anthony Krueger, Associate at Morrison & Foerster LLP

M&A comes in varying sizes. However, there's a common misconception that smaller deals are easier to execute than larger ones. The truth is, that smaller deals come with their own unique set of challenges that could possibly make them even harder to do. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Anthony Krueger, Associate at Morrison & Foerster LLP, debunks this myth and discusses how to execute smaller deals and negotiate key legal provisions.

You will learn:

•The complexities of smaller deals

•Executing earnouts

•Reps and warranties insurance for smaller deals

•Working capital adjustments and its effect on smaller deals

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

04:36 Smaller deals vs bigger deals

06:35 Complexities of smaller deals

06:52 Other layers of complexities

10:10 Earnouts

18:03 Reps and warranties

24:08 Fundamental vs General Reps and Warranties

25:35 Indemnities

28:40 Disclosure schedules

32:34 Caps and Baskets

35:52 Carve-out

36:44 Working capital adjustments

40:47 Deferred revenue

42:01 Accrued bonuses and vacations

44:12 Advice to those doing small deals

45:12 Craziest thing in M&A

 

The Intricacies of M&A from Start to Finish04 Dec 202301:04:54

Rajive Dhar, VP, Head of Corporate Development at NetApp (NASDAQ: NTAP)

For first-time acquirers, M&A can be challenging, as it comes with strenuous processes with many complexities that can turn the dream into a nightmare. However, with proper guidance, acquirers can have a smooth transaction and an amicable negotiation. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast. We discuss the intricacies of M&A from start to finish with Rajive Dhar, VP, Head of Corporate Development at NetApp, to help us navigate our first deal.

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. 

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

05:58 Different types of M&A

09:49 Corporate Strategy for M&A

12:37 Dealing with new customers

14:49 Acquiring competitors 

17:13 Target screening

22:19 Opening up conversations with the target company

23:55 Initial Due Diligence

25:59 Diligence list

30:17 Sunsetting competitors product

33:02 Assessing culture

34:52 Putting an LOI together

39:58 Negotiating deal structure

46:41 Earnouts

55:44 Keeping relationships

1:00:13 Best advice for practitioners

 

M&A Surprises and Horror Stories27 Nov 202301:05:06

Jim Ackerman, recent Vice President of Corporate Development at Flex; Steve Coghlan, Semi-recent Vice President of Corporate Development at Flex.

Every deal is different, which means each and everyone will present unique challenges that teams have to overcome. Especially when dealing with smaller companies. There is no such thing as a perfect deal. However, with the right mindset and approach, deals can still close and bring value to both parties involved. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Jim Ackerman, recent Vice President of Corporate Development at Flex, and Steve Coghlan, former Vice President of Corporate Development at Flex, discuss their experiences on M&A surprises and horror stories.

This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom, the fastest virtual data room used to get deals done. Leave the pay-per-page world behind by going to www.firmroom.com

Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

05:06 Sourcing deals

08:24 Key things to ask during the first meeting

11:49 How to get exclusivity

15:01 How the governance works

16:41 Due diligence red flags

17:21 Cultural integration

19:46 Working with the board

23:54 Best way to pitch a deal to the board

24:34 Stakeholder management in the board

25:40 Managing M&A surprises

29:30 Good M&A Surprises

34:37 Accounting surprises

36:30 Private deal surprises

40:39 IT surprises

42:33 Surprises between signing and closing

45:38 How to mitigate risks and surprises

46:13 What trap currency is

48:04 Integration surprises

50:40 Mitigating surprises from integration

54:25 Instilling clear and purposeful communication

55:23 Hardest step to do in M&A

56:10 Worst deal ever done

59:11 Best advice

1:00:12 Craziest thing in M&A

 

How Positive Relationships Can Drive Success in M&A20 Nov 202300:51:40

Nicole Markowski, Manager and Corporate Development at Wipfli LLP

More than the numbers, relationships can make or break a deal. Regardless of the deal rationale, strong, trusting connections between parties can lead to smoother negotiations, clearer communication, and a greater likelihood of mutual satisfaction in the end result. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Nicole Markowski, Manager and Corporate Development at Wipfli LLP, delves into the importance of cultivating positive relationships to drive M&A success.

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. 

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy. 

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net.

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Episode Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

07:04 The importance of relationships in M&A

09:25 Key people to build relationships with

15:55 How to foster and develop relationships

23:03 How to engage with key people

25:27 Approach to build relationships

28:30 People assignment for developing relationships

30:47 Delegating tasks in building relationships

34:22 Key acquired company people to build relationships with

36:31 Handling resistant groups

39:25 People problems and how to address them

45:57 Advice to first-time practitioners

47:45 Craziest thing in M&A

 

M&A from a CFO's Perspective Session 213 Nov 202300:48:02

Samuel Wilson, Chief Executive Officer at 8x8 (NASDAQ: EGHT)

In the grand scheme of things, every M&A must make financial sense. Whether it's cutting cost, increasing revenue, or achieving operational efficiencies, it all boils down to the numbers. After all, every company's main goal is to grow and increase profit for its shareholders. It is why the Chief Financial Officers play an integral role in M&A. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we will explore M&A from a CFO's perspective, featuring Samuel Wilson, Chief Executive Officer at 8x8.

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This episode is sponsored by the DealRoom and FirmRoom. 

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

07:55 The Role of CFO

11:39 Risk Management

14:39 Integration aspect

15:54 Alignment on assumptions

18:14 Managing people

19:28 Best integration practices

21:25 Working with the CEO

22:52 Walking away from a deal

27:10 Getting involved in the deal

29:50 Tying the Strategy

33:36 Integration Budgeting

39:43 Working with corporate development

40:54 Advice for first time acquirers

44:04 Craziest thing in M&A

 

M&A from a CFO's Perspective Session 106 Nov 202300:46:14

David Barnes, Chief Financial Officer at Trimble Inc. (NASDAQ:TRMB)

Chief Financial Officers (CFOs) play a pivotal role in shaping the destiny of strategic ventures. Beyond their traditional financial responsibilities, these financial architects hold the key to unlocking the full potential of mergers and acquisitions. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we explore M&A from a CFO's perspective with David Barnes, Chief Financial Officer at Trimble Inc.

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. 

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit mascience.com/academy. 

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

04:29 The Role of CFO

05:14 How the CFO's roles differs from the CEO

06:24 Decision-making process and approvals workflow

09:43 Communicating opportunities

11:15 Prioritization

14:18 Balancing the allocation of budgets

16:42 How equity compensation works

18:14 How aligned investment analysts are when evaluating a company

20:08 Forecasting deals

22:53 Priorities when looking at deals

26:49 Balancing priorities when structuring earnouts

28:31 Understanding a company's culture

31:08 Integration from a CFO's perspective

33:49 How the speed of integration impacts value realization

37:05 Biggest lessons learned as a CFO

39:23 How to pitch deals to the CFO

41:38 Craziest thing in M&A

 

The Big Shift from Corporate Development to Private Equity30 Oct 202300:39:51

Joe Metzger, Managing Director at 777 Partners

Navigating a career shift can be a transformative experience, unlocking new opportunities and challenges. For Joe Metzger, Managing Director at 777 Partners, diving into the world of private equity was an exciting path to explore. It's a chance to grow expertise, collaborate with diverse entities, and embrace strategic growth.

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Joe shares his amazing journey shifting from corporate development to private equity.

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

05:02 Transitioning from Corporate Development to Private Equity

08:59 Corporate Development role vs Private Equity role

12:10 Seeking employment opportunities

16:16 The efficient frontier concept

20:06 Are you happier in private equity than in corporate development?

24:17 How to negotiate employment offers

26:48 Other things to negotiate in employment agreements

30:47 How to land a PE role

33:34 Advice to those considering transitioning between Corp Dev and Private Equity

34:52 How to transition to a PE role from a VC and M&A role

36:03 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Integration Strategies in M&A Part 223 Oct 202300:37:57

Chris Evans, Experienced M&A Leader | former Head of CorpDev Integration at Amazon and Scott Boyd, Deputy Director, Strategy Implementation at Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation | former Head of Integration for AWS. (NASDAQ: AMZN)

Change management is one of the most crucial aspects of M&A. While integration involves multiple facets, from supply chains to customers, change management is solely focused on the employees. This can make or break a deal, as employee retention is one of the main ingredients to achieving synergies in a timely manner.

In this episode of the M&A Science podcast, Chris Evans, former Head of CorpDev Integration at Amazon and Scott Boyd, former Head of Integration for AWS, discusses integration strategies change management person.  particularly the nuisances of change management.

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

02:26 Integration Strategy vs Change Management

06:50 Definition of Change Management

09:55 Dedicated Person for Change Management

14:03 Change Management Planning

16:16 Most Effective Approach to Change Management

19:32 Common Challenges during Change Management

24:25 Practical Tips for Change Management

26:49 Hardest Step in M&A

33:38 Craziest Thing in M&A

 

Integration Strategies in M&A Part 116 Oct 202300:52:10

Chris Evans, Experienced M&A Leader | former head of CorpDev Integration at Amazon and Scott Boyd, Deputy Director, Strategy Implementation at Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation | former Head of Integration for AWS. (NASDAQ: AMZN)

In the complex world of M&A, the difference between a successful deal and a failed one often hinges on integration. Proper integration, driven by a harmonious fusion of strategy and execution, ensures that the merging entities can effectively combine their strengths and navigate potential pitfalls. 

In this two-part episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we dive deep into the heart of integration strategies and underscores the pivotal role of the integration team during the due diligence process, featuring Chris Evans, ex-Head of CorpDev Integration at Amazon and Scott Boyd, former Head of Integration for AWS.

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

06:11 Types of Integration Strategies

09:14 Transformative Integration

11:39 Deals Easy to Integrate

13:24 Most difficult thing to Integrate

15:40 Timeline of integration planning

20:26 Benefits of Integration teams running diligence

25:49 Integration Teams' Diligence Execution

28:46 Structuring the M&A Function

34:39 Consistency vs. agility

40:10 Understanding culture pre LOI

44:34 Working with inexperienced business leaders

46:59 Questions to ask pre-LOI as an Integration leader

 

Executing M&A in Healthcare09 Oct 202300:45:52

Roy Schoenberg, President & Co-CEO at Amwell - American Well Corporation (NYSE:AMWL)

The healthcare industry is a complex and rigid space where change is often rejected. Any evolution in this sector not only signifies business decisions but also influences the overall quality and accessibility of patient care. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Roy Schoenberg, President & Co-CEO at Amwell, delves into the intricacies of navigating M&A in the healthcare industry.

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. 

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net.

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

04:26 Evolving from a medical background to M&A

07:27 What makes the healthcare space distinct

09:36 What drove Amwell to do acquisitions

13:03 Shaping the acquisition strategy

16:59 Amwell's first acquisition

22:29 Integrating the new company

24:50 Retaining key people

28:33 First acquisition lessons learned

31:03 Dealing with transaction surprises

34:03 Approaching deals as one of the main principal

38:01 Deal sourcing

39:49 Managing relationships with the counterparty

41:30 Communication during diligence

43:14 Craziest thing in M&A

 

M&A Integration Reality: Deal Economics vs Human Dynamics with Nicole Markowski16 Sep 202500:58:02

Nicole Markowski - Former Director of Business Integration and Operations, Wipfli

Join Nicole as she shares unvarnished truths from managing 30+ transactions. Nicole reveals how integration-led diligence prevents value destruction, why traditional deal economics often miss critical human factors, and practical strategies for maintaining the human touch while scaling M&A programs from 3 to 16 concurrent deals.

Things You'll Learn
  • Why integration leaders must be involved in deal economics discussions to prevent value destruction
  • How to scale M&A operations from 2-3 to 16+ concurrent deals without losing the human touch
  • The critical difference between project managers and true integration leaders in M&A success

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The virtual event built for dealmakers who want to eliminate chaos and take control from sourcing through integration.

📅 October 30, 2025
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Learn from leaders who've built scalable, repeatable strategies that keep deals on track - Register now.

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Get pure, off-the-record collaboration between corporate development, private equity, and integration leaders. Instead of passive listening, you'll be sharing real frameworks, trading ideas, and testing what actually works in modern deal execution. Everything's practitioner-led, and every topic is surfaced by the attendees themselves.

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Episode Chapters

[00:02:00] Engineering an M&A Career – From Accenture consultant to integration expert

[00:04:00] Tale of Two Velocities – Contrasting measured vs high-volume M&A approaches

[00:07:00] Why cost pool analysis can destroy deal value

[00:17:00] When Sellers Walk Away – The Mac vs PC deal breaker story

[00:22:00] Integration-Led Diligence – Why integration leaders should quarterback due diligence

[00:32:00] Keeping It Human at Scale

[00:37:00] Bridging cultural gaps in professional services 

[00:47:00] Beyond Project Management – What makes a true integration leader

[00:53:00] When IT Walks Out – Crisis management 

Questions, comments, concerns?
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How to Balance Culture During an Integration02 Oct 202300:45:59

Mark Rayfield, CEO of Saint-Gobain North America (EPA: SGO) and CertainTeed

Integration is not just about combining processes and systems. It is about bridging cultures and creating a shared identity. However, integrating two organizations can be complex, especially when it comes to managing major cultural differences. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we explore key strategies  for effectively balancing culture during an integration, featuring Mark Rayfield, CEO of Saint-Gobain North America and CertainTeed.

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. 

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net

FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

05:50 Culture in M&A

09:59 Acquiring a competitor

11:18 Team Alignment

13:24 Understanding culture

15:45 Difficulties of Culture

16:52 Improving decision-making

18:55 Challenges for smaller companies

20:37 Lessons learned from acquisitions

24:58 Establishing strong communication

27:14 Advice on Integration

31:08 Retaining lessons learned

32:49 Ensuring deal value

34:40 Governance and M&A activities

37:20 Success metrics

38:59 Messaging with key investors

40:20 Non-core acquisitions

41:19 Cultural aspect of non-core acquisition

43:02 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Planning and Executing Your Exit as an Investor25 Sep 202300:46:24

Dr. Irit Yaniv, Founding Partner and CEO at Almeda Ventures (TLV: AMDA)

While most investors have a passive role in their portfolio company, some investors are active in shaping and contributing to its success. For venture capitalists, one of the best scenarios is for the portfolio company to be acquired to maximize investment returns. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Dr. Irit Yaniv, Founding Partner and CEO at Almada Ventures, discusses what investors can do when planning and executing the exit.

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This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom, the fastest virtual data room used to get deals done. FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com 

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

03:26 M&A in the medical device industry

04:49 Minority position during Investment

05:35 When to think about an exit

06:59 Getting involved in the exit 

09:57 Working with the CEO

12:03 Keeping track of potential acquisitions

14:34 Finding the right buyer

17:55 Managing exit planning disagreements

20:34 Who controls exit decisions

22:23 Negotiation

25:37 When to engage with a banker

36:51 Advice on planning an exit

38:11 Bad exits

40:29 Other takeaways

42:35 Craziest thing in M&A

 
How PE Should Support Portfolio Company Acquisitions18 Sep 202300:46:59

Barak Routhenstein, Vice President of Corporate Development at Profile Products

The collaboration between a Private Equity (PE) firm and a portfolio company during an acquisition is a powerful partnership. Together, they create a synergistic environment where growth and value thrive. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we will explore insights from Barak Routhenstein, Vice President Corporate Development at Profile Products, on how PE firms can provide invaluable support to portfolio companies during the acquisition process, setting the stage for success and maximizing value creation.

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

03:57 Changes in the M&A landscape

04:39 Changes in private equity acquisitions

08:14 Go-to-market

10:48 Deal origination

12:19 International deals

14:25 How PE firms look at acquisitions

15:48 Bad cultural fit

18:40 Relationship with PE firms

20:20 Ideal PE-sponsor relationship

21:45 Managing deal sourcing conflicts

22:38 Approval process

24:44 Sustaining support from PE firms

27:08 Reporting structure

29:54 Advice for PE firms in supporting portfolio companies

32:54 Staging productive meetings

35:01 Keys to pitching a deal

38:46 Approaching target company relationships

41:28 Managing underperforming acquired companies

42:18 PE firms buying other PE firms

43:26 Craziest thing in M&A

 

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