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| Does My Website Suck? | Law Firm Website Teardown | 28 Aug 2024 | 00:51:01 | |
You may be losing prospective clients if their experience on your website is mediocre—or just plain bad. The guys share how to fix things up to grow your business.
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What do marketing pros look for when they check into a law firm’s website? Gyi and Conrad take us through their processes as they take a deep dive into the structure and content of a Denver PI law firm website. They explain what to be on the lookout for, how issues with both site content and coding negatively affect a user’s experience, and tools they use to assess the visibility, credibility, and success of a site.
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The News:
Will there be any enforcement behind this? We hope so: FTC Fake Reviews Rule and the End of “Fake Reviews”? (John Henson).
Looks like Google AI Overviews Are Impacted By Core Updates, but will it change anything?
Joy Hawkins writes about How Links Impact Organic Results and Local Packs, but Gyi’s got beef.
AI Overviews Research: Analyzing sources in Google’s AI-generated answers—Are you tracking this stuff? You should be!
Clio Sets Legal Tech Funding Record with $900M Raise at $3B Valuation. Someone’s got to compete with them, but can they, really?
Mentioned in this Episode:
LEX Summit Digital Marketing Q&A / Live Taping of Lunch Hour Legal Marketing
The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter!
Leave Us an Apple Review
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok | |||
| Google’s Search Monopoly in Jeopardy: This New Antitrust Ruling Changes Everything | 12 Aug 2024 | 00:39:46 | |
Has Google finally been dethroned? Greg Sterling of Near Media joins Gyi and Conrad to hash out the DOJ’s ruling on Google’s search monopoly.
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So, is the government going to break Google up? Greg begins by explaining the nuances of what actually makes a monopoly illegal and whether Google has acted in opposition to the law. Later, the guys discuss the spectrum of remedies that could come into play in Google’s future and whether new competition will be able to break through in the search space. For more on Greg’s perspective, read his article: Google Loses, AI Ankle Biters, GBP Menu Optimization. Gyi and Conrad also ask Greg to give his take on critical things lawyers should do to be easily discoverable by prospective clients and reduce their dependence on Google.
The News:
Google has an illegal monopoly on search, US judge finds
Mentioned in this Episode:
nearmedia.co
localdialogue.com
Interested in attending Auto Crash Litigation 2024? Check out the 360 Advocacy LHLM Discount.
The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter!
Leave Us an Apple Review
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok | |||
| The Lawyer’s Guide to Conversions || Listener LSA Queries | 27 Mar 2024 | 00:46:28 | |
Ladies and gentlemen! Tonight’s main event is a rough and rowdy throw down over: What exactly is a conversion? Later, LSAs are confusing, amIright? Gyi and Conrad shed some light on how to make the most of your marketing dollar.
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So, you’ve just placed a Google ad, written a social post, or sent out a newsletter. Then, you sit back and hope for… what, exactly? There is definitely some argument about what a conversion is and isn’t in your marketing scenario, so get ready for some heat as Gyi and Conrad rumble over their diverging philosophies. However, at its core, the guys agree that a conversion happens when a user takes the desired action (whatever that may be) which, in turn, grows your business. They discuss how this plays out in the real world to help lawyers understand best practices in their marketing efforts.
Later, the guys answer Local Services Ad questions from listeners. How long will LSAs be king for small firms? Do you really have to increase your budget to compete with legal behemoths on Google? Can effective targeting solve ad problems? Gyi and Conrad give their best takes on how to understand the nuances of the system.
The News:
Is this whole TikTok ban for realsies? Questionable — Bill that could ban TikTok passed in the House. Here's what to know
Google Integrates Social Media Posts Into Google Business Profiles Gyi and Conrad talk about how to make the most of it.
Sooo… the Google March 2024 spam update is done rolling out. Did it make any difference?
Coming your way: DIY AI-assisted website stuffs that power your marketing—GoDaddy Launched Airo
And, we’re excited, folks! The First LHLM: Office Hours took place on March 15 and the guys are super grateful for all those who got involved. Join Gyi and Conrad again on March 29.
This Podcast Rated [PG] by the Podcast Association of America* for mild language and bad lawyer jokes.
*not a real thing
Mentioned in this Episode:
The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter!
Last Episode
How not to use TikTok
Conversion Confusion Cleared Up - LHLM
More content, less traffic: part
More content, less traffic: part II
Leave Us an Apple Review
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok | |||
| Marketing Automation: A Primer for Lawyers on Smarter, Simpler Marketing | 20 Dec 2019 | 00:58:56 | |
Casey Cheshire shares strategies for successful marketing automation. | |||
| Bring Your Human to Work with You: Using Your Strengths to Grow Your Business | 27 Nov 2019 | 00:48:51 | |
Katy Goshtasbi shares strategies for identifying and utilizing your strengths to grow your legal business. | |||
| Lunch Hour Legal Marketing: Mailbag Edition! | 19 Sep 2019 | 00:54:06 | |
Gyi Tsakalakis and Kelly Street answer listener questions in this special mailbag episode. | |||
| Social Media Marketing: Strategy Tips for Law Firms | 28 Aug 2019 | 00:48:14 | |
Traci Reuter offers essential strategies for social media marketing for lawyers. | |||
| How AI Helps Lawyers Do Their Best Work | 31 Jul 2019 | 00:56:27 | |
Thomas Hamilton examines AI trends in the legal industry and dispels many myths surrounding AI tech. | |||
| Your Clients are Humans, Be One Too | 20 Jun 2019 | 00:40:25 | |
Rebecca Harding of Saltwhistle shares the value of creating a human connection with clients, common mistakes in law firm marketing, and how younger lawyers can help drive their firms’ IT planning. | |||
| PR Guidebook for Lawyers: Best Practices for Boosting Your Firm’s Reputation | 15 May 2019 | 00:47:39 | |
Gyi Tsakalakis and Kelly Street talk to Michelle Calcote King about all things PR for law firms. They discuss best practices for press releases, laying out what types of news are worthy of release to the media and outlining how to establish a relationship with a journalist. | |||
| Optimizing SEO with Schema Markup | 16 Apr 2019 | 00:56:24 | |
In this episode, hosts Gyi Tsakalakis and Kelly Street talk to Martha van Berkel about all things schema markup, a.k.a. structured data. Martha explains how this data language helps search engines understand what people are looking for in the real world and connects them to optimal search results. They discuss how lawyers can apply schema markup in their SEO and how understanding what drives online engagement can help lawyers make better business decisions. | |||
| Review Fraud: Exposing Lawyers who Mislead Consumers | 19 Mar 2019 | 00:51:49 | |
Some lawyers may not realize that creating fake reviews is illegal and has serious consequences. In this episode, hosts Gyi Tsakalakis and Kelly Street talk to Jason Brown, founder of reviewfraud.org, about his work investigating fraudulent reviews. They define what constitutes a fake review and discuss the most common instances of abuse found in the legal community. | |||
| Jordan Harbinger’s Networking Playbook for Lawyers | 28 Feb 2019 | 01:05:09 | |
How can lawyers build influence in the legal community? In this episode, hosts Gyi Tsakalakis and Kelly Street talk to Jordan Harbinger about his career as a social dynamics expert and influential podcaster. They discuss Jordan’s networking advice for creating meaningful and useful professional connections. They also delve into how to make good impressions and exude approachability. | |||
| Bull$#!% You Hear at Legal Conferences || What Are You Reading? | 13 Mar 2024 | 00:39:52 | |
This time, the guys unpack Google’s latest headlines, caution lawyers against some highly questionable speakers at legal conferences, and share the latest books to add to your reading list.
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Today’s big thing—The News:
Google’s latest core updates are really trying to crack down on spam and garbage content. Will it work? Gyi and Conrad talk through what it all means for you. Check out: Google’s Search Status Dashboard for Ranking and Google Is Finally Trying to Kill AI Clickbait.
Disgusting, but predictable––Google’s February LSA update was super gross: Google tests Branded Local Service Ads with opt-out option.
Gyi explains how Google is trying to reduce spam in some areas through quality rater guidelines, but they don’t seem to care about it when it comes to ads: Search Quality Rater Guidelines: An Overview.
Conrad rants against Google’s Pay Per Click (PPC) tactics, so to wrap your head around PPC marketing in general, try LHLM 101: Advertisement Buying Alphabet Soup and Search Engine Land’s What is PPC – Pay-Per-Click marketing?
Later, there are a fair amount of conference sessions these days in which the speakers are paying big money to pitch their message/product to attendees. What do we think of this practice? Gyi and Conrad both have their own take, but the bottom line is: there’s a lousy content issue at conferences, and the guys share IRL examples of session claptrap you should avoid.
Finally, what have the guys been reading lately? For Conrad, Shoe Dog by Phil Knight, tells the story of the messy process of building a successful business. And Gyi has been reading all of Tiago Forte’s books, including Building a Second Brain and The PARA Method for organizing your digital life.
Mentioned in this Episode:
LHLM Office Hours are coming March 15th! Register or View Here
The Game Changing Attorney Podcast: The Brutally Honest Guide to Public Speaking
Leave Us an Apple Review
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok | |||
| Digital Marketing: Content is King | 17 Jan 2019 | 00:45:33 | |
How can lawyers make their online content more visible for prospective clients? In this episode, hosts Gyi Tsakalakis and Kelly Street talk to Dave Chaffey about how lawyers can implement technology for digital marketing. Prospective clients are drawn in by good online content, but the huge number of marketing technologies available may make the choice seem daunting. Kelly and Gyi get insight from Dave on how lawyers can prioritize the tech that will serve them best. | |||
| Pro Tips on Personal Branding from Dr. Natalia | 13 Dec 2018 | 00:46:40 | |
In this episode, hosts Kelly Street and Gyi Tsakalakis talk to Dr. Natalia Wiechowski, personal branding strategist and international keynote speaker, about what elements need to be considered as lawyers develop a personal brand. She gives insight into how interacting with social media, particularly LinkedIn, can enhance your brand and grow your business. Dr. Natalia also shares how she came to be known as the LinkedIn Unicorn. | |||
| Rand Fishkin’s Guide to Business for Lawyers | 12 Nov 2018 | 00:45:56 | |
Hosts Gyi Tsakalakis and Kelly Street talk to Rand Fishkin about his new book, “Lost and Founder: A Painfully Honest Field Guide to the Startup World.” Gyi and Kelly get tips from Rand about how lawyers can use the tactics from his book as they build their businesses. Rand gives practical advice about reputation building, client research, resource development, current SEO trends, and much more. | |||
| The Power of Real-Life Connections | 02 Oct 2018 | 00:46:57 | |
For most people networking feels like a chore, but strong connections can impact every facet of your life, especially your business. Hosts Gyi Tsakalakis and Kelly Street talk to Jayson Gaignard about how he builds himself up by building up his connections. He shares networking tips that can apply to the most introverts as well as advice on how to build successful relationships with mentors and peers. | |||
| Demystifying Legal Technology Trends | 06 Sep 2018 | 00:42:20 | |
For lawyers who want to use technology in their firm but are overwhelmed by options and implementation challenges, this episode is for you. Hosts Gyi Tsakalakis and Kelly Street talk to Chad Burton about legal technology trends and how law firms can step up their tech game. They challenge the idea that lawyers are generally tech-averse and talk about the regulatory issues that affect client communication through technology. | |||
| On the Right Track: Test, Analyze, and Track Your Campaigns | 09 Aug 2018 | 00:31:54 | |
For lawyers who are investing a lot of time and money into marketing your firm, how can you tell whether that marketing is working? Hosts Gyi Tsakalakis and Kelly Street explore the topic of testing and analyzing your marketing techniques in order to make informed and data-based decisions about where you’re investing your time and money. They discuss establishing your marketing goals and the different methods of tracking your success rate, from web analytics to call tracking. | |||
| Spotlighting Your “Whys” in Your Digital Marketing Strategy | 11 Jul 2018 | 00:40:31 | |
Why did you start a law practice? Was it to help people struggling with family law issues or to work for yourself in a strong business? It is important to understand your “whys” -- the essential reasons for becoming a lawyer -- to build a foundation for your firm’s marketing.
Mitch Jackson goes in depth about how to build a digital footprint using newsjacking, in which lawyers can become experts using their knowledge to comment on current events. | |||
| Introducing the New Lunch Hour Legal Marketing | 09 Jul 2018 | 00:03:40 | |
We are excited to announce our relaunch with legal marketing experts Gyi Tsakalakis and Kelly Street as hosts. This new show, which can be consumed during your lunch break, will feature high-profile marketing gurus as guests, both within the legal industry and across all fields of professional services. | |||
| The Expertise Effect: How Getting Narrow Can Grow Your Practice | 03 Jun 2016 | 00:58:59 | |
Almost every lawyer wants to command higher rates, attract more clients, and increase his or her profile in the marketplace. However, many are unable to achieve these objectives because they are stuck pursuing ineffective strategies – or no strategy at all. In this presentation, Jay Harrington will provide some tips on how to develop more business by establishing a niche legal practice.
“Getting narrow” is more important than ever as, in all aspects of today’s economy, consumers are trending toward specialization. Consumers of legal services are no different. They are no longer looking for lawyers with broad skill sets and general knowledge, but rather are seeking out specialists with very particular knowledge in narrow industries and practice area sub-specialties.
Jay will discuss niching strategy and issues such as:
Why it’s important to carve out a niche
Why lawyers with niche practices develop more business more easily, and command higher rates
How to pick a profitable and sustainable area of specialty
Jay will also discuss how to market your niche practice through various thought leadership and content marketing initiatives. | |||
| Three Marketing Tools Small Law Firms Can’t Live Without | 13 May 2016 | 00:53:35 | |
As more and more clients find us online, it’s imperative that small law firms have the basic tools in place to capture and capitalize on potential opportunities. In this session we will cover the tools you can’t live without, and some wish-list items for future growth. Including; Avvo, Social Media Automation, Email Marketing and more.
Chelsey Lambert is Vice President of Marketing & Communications at Smokeball, a provider of productivity software for small law firms, based in Chicago. Her mission is to help attorneys, and legal professionals understand the technology that is available to them, how to use it, and the positive impacts it can have on their business. After leaving theChicago Bar Association in 2014, she continues to speak and write for legal organizations across the US, on technology, hiring, marketing and small law firm best practices. In her spare time, she enjoys a good yoga class, volunteering, and taking in the sunshine on Chicago’s beautiful lakeshore. | |||
| Extra, Extra! Break Free from the Billable Hour | 06 Mar 2024 | 00:12:57 | |
Subscription legal services are the future, folks, so let’s ride the new wave! The billable hour has become increasingly despised, but how do you make the switch to a subscription-based, recurring revenue law firm? In a live conversation at ABA TECHSHOW, Gyi chatted with Kim Bennett and Blaine Korte about how to leave the billable hour behind and create processes and automations that keep your ideal client’s journey in mind and make your law firm more profitable.
Kim Bennett is CEO and co-founder at Fidu Legal.
Blaine Korte is CTO and co-founder at Fidu Legal. | |||
| The Dollars and Sense of Legal Marketing | 25 Mar 2016 | 00:54:24 | |
The only thing more expensive than hiring a lawyer is advertising as one.
For example, a recent study of online advertising found that 78 of the top 100 most expensive Google advertising terms are fought over by lawyers looking for clients. It can cost a lot of money to market a law firm. Worse, most law firms cannot track whether their expensive advertising is actually producing clients.
In this session, learn from Joshua Lenon, Lawyer in Residence at Clio, about the numbers you should be tracking when it comes to legal marketing.
Learn about:
How much marketing costs your firm should carry;
Calculating Return on Investment (ROI) for each method of advertising you use in your firm; and
Tools to measure revenue from cases against your advertising costs.
Joshua Lenon is an attorney who currently serves as lawyer-in-residence for Clio, providing legal scholarship and research skills to the leading cloud-based practice management platform. | |||
| Internet Marketing: Establishing a Powerful Online Presence | 26 Feb 2016 | 00:46:16 | |
Are you struggling to establish a powerful online presence for your law practice? Is your website failing to bring in business?
Learn how to establish a comprehensive online presence that will increase your exposure and enhance your credibility, while maintaining MRPC compliance. This presentation will cover:
Branding + using imagery that will resonate with clients
SEO keywords + tips
Turning your website into a potent resource
Using legal content to convey credibility
Blogging benefits + best practices
Utilizing effective marketing tools to supercharge referrals
Selecting a provider
Fred Cohen is the founder and CEO of Zola Media, a legal marketing and technology company that specializes in high-impact attorney websites and marketing services. Fred’s management and experience spans across the information technology, marketing and legal sectors from founding a tech startup which was acquired by a publicly-traded company to practicing trusts and estates as a partner at a New York law firm.
Fred writes on a wide range of topics related to legal technology, marketing and ethics in attorney advertising. He is also a regular speaker and CLE presenter at bar associations throughout the country. | |||
| Transform Your Law Firm’s Blog into a Profitable eBook: A Step-by-Step Guide | 15 Dec 2015 | 00:45:01 | |
Adam Kosloff presented our Lunch Hour Legal Marketing webinar on November 18, 2015 at 12pm EST.
Most attorneys who even attempt to write books get bogged down, because the process takes way too long, and they have far too many other things to do.
This webinar will give you a proven shortcut. It will show you how to leverage content that you’ve already produced on your blog (and elsewhere) to create your ebook. You won’t need to rely on untested writers or expend much effort or time.
Adam Kosloff has ghostwritten over 60 books for attorneys on subjects as diverse as personal injury, criminal defense, family law, tax law and estate planning. He will walk you through the exact, battle-tested process he uses to create ebooks for his clients. We will cover:
How to survey your current content library to assess its ebook potential
The importance of a Big Idea for your ebook — and how to create that awesome hook
The secret to sewing together seemingly disparate ideas and content pieces using the same tactic employed by bestselling authors like Dave Barry and David Sedaris
An interview-transcription process that will personalize your book and fill in any gaps — and will only take about 1-2 hours of work on your part
How to organize your blog (and other content creation activities) in the future to create more books
Repurposing your book into other forms of content, such as a podcast or YouTube channel
The smartest, most certain ways to monetize your book — and how to measure success | |||
| Law Firm Digital Marketing Trends for 2015-2016 | 15 Oct 2015 | 00:55:04 | |
Do lawyers still need to blog? Do I really need to spend time on Twitter? Let’s take a look at the common marketing trends in 2015, and what must have marketing trends we feel will carry through into 2016. Mark Homer will share the trends he and the GNGF team have seen this year, with a focus on digital. | |||
| Summer of Lunch Part 4: Legal Blogging Tips from Kevin O’Keefe | 14 Sep 2015 | 00:31:55 | |
In the 2015 Summer of Lunch series finale from Lunch Hour Legal Marketing, Jared Correia interviews Kevin O’Keefe, CEO of Lexblog, about how would-be legal bloggers should get started, the necessary level of professionalism, using blogs to network and build relationships, and setting beneficial goals. | |||
| The Summer of Lunch Part 3: What Exactly Is The Purpose of Social Media? | 17 Aug 2015 | 00:35:37 | |
What really is the purpose of an online social presence for a law practice? Can lawyers really attract clients through social media? In this episode of Lunch Hour Legal Marketing, Jared Correia interviews Leigh McMillan, vice president of marketing at Avvo, during Mass LOMAP’s 5th Annual Marketing Conference in Boston. Leigh explains the importance of participating in social media, how a lawyer’s presence can affect search results, and how to choose the right channel to increase your law firm’s visibility online. | |||
| The Summer of Lunch Part 2: Authentic Legal Marketing in the Digital Age | 30 Jul 2015 | 00:32:19 | |
On the second featured Summer of Lunch, Jared Correia interviews Ed Walters, CEO of Fastcase, about the ways lawyers can improve their online marketing by understanding what their clients want to see. Topics include: Marketing that focuses on empathy, Branding a niche practice versus specializing in everything, Direct and honest firm promotion, Highlighting benefits clients actually care about: parking, personality, experience, Interesting and informative bios, Adjusting approaches learned in law school, No more cliches! | |||
| The Summer of Lunch Part 1: Law Firm Marketing That Works! | 02 Jul 2015 | 00:30:43 | |
On this episode of Lunch Hour Legal Marketing, Jared Correia and Larry Port discuss the outdated landscape of legal marketing, how lawyers can effectively market their practice online, and the importance of measuring data and analyzing the right metrics. This fun interview will make you laugh, and you might learn something too. | |||
| The 21st Century Lawyer: Utilizing Technology Competency as a Marketing Tool | 31 Mar 2015 | 00:50:20 | |
This episode of Lunch Hour Legal Marketing offers an overview of the new skills and competencies that lawyers should have today that they did not need only 20 or 25 years ago, especially with regard to the use of technology. The panelists cover a number of issues, including cybersecurity, internet marketing and investigation, and e-discovery, but will focus most heavily on the Suffolk/Flaherty Legal Technology Audit, which was created to assess lawyers’ ability to use basic law practice technology, such as Microsoft Word and Excel, and how that demonstration of technological competence can be used as a marketing tool. | |||
| Paperless Lawyering: What It Really Is, and the Nuts and Bolts of How It Works | 26 Feb 2015 | 01:01:49 | |
In this episode of Lunch Hour Legal Marketing, Ernie Svenson hosted a webinar based on his proven method for shifting to a paperless law practice. It’s the system he used to shift from high-overhead, document-intensive big firm practice into a Ninja-efficient, low-overhead solo practice where he continued to work on complex commercial litigation matters. Ernie’s system is one that any lawyer can implement, even those whose computer skills are limited to reading and replying to emails. | |||
| What’s Your Best Cost Per Acquisition? || Drafting Your Marketing Dream Team: Round 4 | 28 Feb 2024 | 00:31:13 | |
Is there some sort of universal average you should be hoping for in your cost per acquisition, particularly on social media? Gyi and Conrad have the answer. And, later, your marketing dream team needs an off-hours operator!
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What is the best cost per acquisition you can hope to attain in your social media marketing efforts? Gyi and Conrad unpack this listener question and dig into how it actually ought to be considered in an entirely different way. Is a cost per acquisition of under $100 the magical threshold everyone thinks it is? Your law firm’s goals might beg to differ.
Later on, the draft for your marketing dream team is back! The guys talk about the essential role of the off-hours operator. Whether human-powered or fully automated, your firm needs to be able to be communicative with consumers at all times, day and night.
The News:
Google and Reddit are getting together: Google strikes $60 million deal with Reddit, allowing search giant to train AI models on human posts - CBS News
Aaand, more Google, as usual—they’re working with machine learning to keep trying to actually be helpful: How machine learning keeps contributed content helpful
Gyi was on Trial Lawyer Nation, so you better go check that out.
Mentioned in this Episode:
Reddit Episode
Curtis Boyd - The Transparency Company
Leave Us an Apple Review
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing now on YouTube
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok | |||
| Law Firm Marketing Mastery in 30 Minutes—GUARANTEED! || r/HiddenGems | 14 Feb 2024 | 00:35:14 | |
Lies, betrayal, false promises… Valentine’s Day may look like it just took a very unromantic turn, but Gyi and Conrad are here to rescue you from a potentially toxic agency relationship. And later, Google’s Hidden Gems might not be all it’s cracked up to be.
We guarantee (okay, we hope!) that you’ll love this podcast, but what about when an agency guarantees success? Flashy promises from marketing agencies are probably always absolutely sketchy, and Gyi and Conrad want to make sure no one takes advantage of you. The guys share the warning signs you should look for when considering a relationship with a new agency.
Next, what’s the deal with Google’s new update, Hidden Gems? It’s meant to bring real user experiences and content to the forefront, but is it actually helping? Forums like Reddit and Quora can be a strategic place to put yourself out there as a lawyer, but don’t be a skeezeball about it. Gyi and Conrad talk through unintended problems arising from Hidden Gems—far too often resulting from users manipulating the system.
The News:
Local Service Ad bombings truly suck, and Google needs to prevent business competitors from using these gross tactics.
AI is coming to Google Maps to help you discover new places through AI Local Guides. Attorneys—pay attention to how this could impact the ways people find your law firm!
Speaking of maps, they’re currently showing up significantly lower in Search Engine Results Pages. How will this affect your business?
Mentioned in this Episode:
What are Hidden Gems? – Google Search ranking improvement aims to surface hidden gems
It’s Goog Enough! - Blind Five Year Old
Beyond SEO
Leave Us an Apple Review
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing now on YouTube
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok | |||
| Diverse Marketing || 30 Days In | 31 Jan 2024 | 00:40:40 | |
100 episodes! Thanks for listening, LHLMers. This time, we’re focusing on the business and community benefits of expanding into new language markets for your law firm. Plus, what should be accomplished in the first 30 days of a new marketing year?
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What should diversity look like in your legal marketing? The ever-growing Spanish-speaking market has made attorneys realize there are many underserved populations in need of greater access to legal services. Whether it be Spanish or another language, what is the best way to reach out to new client populations in your area? Gyi and Conrad share what they’ve learned thus far about inclusive marketing strategies that serve communities more broadly and effectively.
Later on, what progress should lawyers and marketers expect to see after the first thirty days of their engagement/campaign/strategy/whatever? The guys talk through potential benchmarks in a variety of circumstances and the data-gathering frenzy that should eventually become measurable, meaningful metrics for your firm.
The News:
LSA Reporting – you can now see more about your local service ads through Google’s interface, but it still kinda sucks.
Google Business Profile Websites will be turned off on March 1st. Are they quietly sneaking off into the night?
Google is laying off hundreds from their advertising teams. What gives?
The Stafford Jersey Swap was quite a thing.
Mentioned in this Episode:
Hreflang: The Easy Guide for Beginners
US Hispanic Population Stats
LHLM Episode: The Anatomy of an Annual Plan || Top KPIs for Law Firm Growth
Leave Us an Apple Review
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing now on YouTube
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok
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| Conrad’s Crystal Ball: The Re-Re-Return — Sponsored by CallRail | 17 Jan 2024 | 00:34:43 | |
Gyi and Conrad gaze deeply into the hazy future of law firm marketing in 2024, but are they true fortune tellers or phonies? They talk through the successes of predictions past and offer their insight into the uncertain future.
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Time to dust off the crystal ball, but first, the guys take a look back and show off their brilliant powers of prediction with a whole slew of spot-on prophecies that did, in fact, come to pass in 2023. In-house marketers increased, lawyers took to social media in bigger ways, brand affinity/awareness tactics were key, and more! And, uh… y’know—nevermind that bit of a psychic blind spot on the massive AI renaissance.
Next, let’s take a look at the most significant trends of 2023. The guys unpack the major happenings in AI, the legal business sphere, marketing strategies, social media engagement, and all the other things competent soothsayers must examine as they ponder eternity.
Finally, the future. Gyi and Conrad gaze into the depths of the mystic orb, and what lies ahead is clear—more and more AI is coming into the practice of law. What else? We’re not giving it all away! Listen in to find out.
Many thanks to our friends at CallRail for sponsoring this extra LHLM episode.
Mentioned in this Episode:
Leave Us an Apple Review
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing now on YouTube
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok | |||
| Mindful Gifting || Resolutions Past and Future | 03 Jan 2024 | 00:37:49 | |
If you’ve never put much thought into gifts, maybe it’s time to ponder the influence and effect of a perfectly personalized present. And, how did the guys’ resolutions go last year? Eh… you’ll see.
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Unexpected, unnecessary gifts can be pretty darn impactful, and they might just be an awesome way to express your esteem for a valued professional peer. Gyi and Conrad encourage listeners to forgo the pears and apples and consider a thoughtful, personalized gifting strategy that truly shows others you care.
Next, the guys answer a listener question on Google SGE. What are its long-term prospects? Will it play a role in Search? Gyi and Conrad hash out their prognostications.
It seems we love to hate ourselves for failing miserably at New Year’s resolutions. The guys share their successes and lack thereof on 2023’s personal, professional, and podcast goals, and talk about their bright, shiny hopes for 2024.
The News:
Take that, robocallers/texters! The FCC has adopted new rules closing 'lead generator" loopholes.
Is print coming back? Great Legal Marketing has an excellent print newsletter, so maybe, just maybe, you should consider one as well.
Mentioned in this Episode:
Ask a question—get some swag!
Leave Us an Apple Review
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing now on YouTube
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok | |||
| Bad Math - Undercapitalization || Riches in the Niches? | 27 Dec 2023 | 00:32:45 | |
Bad math might be holding you back from your business goals, and, later, is it a good or bad idea to diversify your legal practice areas?
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Lawyers aren’t known for their math skills, but those who are business owners need to understand how to budget their money for continued growth. In fact, if you’re not investing enough in your marketing, you might be moving backwards. Gyi and Conrad talk through strategies for effective marketing investments that will help you reach your business goals.
To maximize your revenue, should you undertake multiple niches in your legal practice? It depends. Practice area diversification isn’t all bad—in some markets it might work well for you, but it can also be problematic. They guys break down the pros and cons of a multi-niche legal practice.
The News:
This video looks amazing: Hands-on with Gemini: Interacting with multimodal AI - YouTube. But now it’s looking like we’ve been misled: Google shares sink following reports that some of their AI demo was faked.
Joy Hawkins has informed everyone that they basically don’t exist after hours on Google unless they run a 24/7 listing.
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| The Rising Costs of Google Ads || Traffic for Traffic’s Sake? | 13 Dec 2023 | 00:41:46 | |
Google ad prices keep increasing, but a lot of lawyers feel like their Google marketing isn't getting them where they want to go. Later, should you keep content that brings in plenty of web traffic but no new customers?
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Is Google engaging in some sneaky tactics? Ad prices continue to rise, but many lawyers are feeling like their Google ads are less and less effective. What’s going on here? Gyi and Conrad talk through the increasingly convoluted ad space and how to actually reach your target clients.
Later, a listener asks a question that merits its own segment—what do you do when you have a web page that generates a lot of organic traffic but doesn’t convert to clients? The guys discuss whether all traffic is good traffic and what you should do with a weirdly performing page from a variety of marketing perspectives.
The News:
Once again, Elon’s employing some seriously questionable tactics against his naysayers, and it’s hard to imagine he’s accomplishing anything other than shooting himself in the foot: Elon Musk to advertisers who try to blackmail him: 'Go f**k yourself'
Danny Sullivan, Google's Search Liaison, says major changes are coming to search rankings, so buckle up, folks. We may be experiencing some turbulence.
Also from Google—structured data changes. Check out these articles from Search Engine Journal: Google Highlights Forums & Profiles With New Structured Data and Google Search Central: New in structured data: discussion forum and profile page markup.
And, well, Google’s definitely monopolizing the news (again): Jerry Dischler of Google Ads has Resigned.
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| How does Google know who you are? | Authorship v. Expertise | 24 Jul 2024 | 00:28:49 | |
You wrote some stuff, have great expertise, have great content… but does Google care? The guys hash out how to establish your cred and boost your content with tactical authorship strategies.
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Conrad still values the bygone era of Google’s authorship attributions, but Gyi’s all about the latest on expertise with E-E-A-T. Who’s right, and how is authorship recognized by search engines across the breadth of the internet? Gyi and Conrad throw down on best practices for helping your content demonstrate Google’s E-E-A-T criteria and solidify the importance of your authorship. And, it’s not just about you publishing on your own domain. The guys explain how to effectively expand out onto other reputable platforms/publications to help search engines value and promote your expertise.
Learn more here:
Creating Helpful, Reliable, People-First Content | Google Search Central | Documentation
And here:
Author markup best practices
The News:
There’s not a lot of control over how brands show up on Google—will this change anything? - Maximize performance on Search with updates to query matching
Google killed off its business messaging. What’s the deal? - Changes to Google Business Profile Chat
Gyi and Conrad will both be at some upcoming events! Come see them at Auto Crash Litigation 2024 and Law Firm Summer Reboot Camp.
And, for even more of Gyi’s mellifluous tones (oh, and marketing know-how), check out his appearance on the ABA Legal Rebels podcast.
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| LinkedInGPT || Red Flags for Firing Your Agency | 22 Nov 2023 | 00:45:22 | |
What do we think of using AI in social content creation? It’s complicated. And, the guys share the surefire signs that mean it’s time to drop your digital marketing agency.
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With ChatGPT by our side, social media might just have the potential to become more inauthentic than ever. If, that is, you employ AI to generate your content full-time. So… should you? Gyi and Conrad talk through the current state of ChatGPT-aided content creation, explaining how to use it for what it’s worth, while leaving its lame, boring robot side out of your socials.
For today’s LHLM question, a listener asks about the value, or lack thereof, in hiring a local celebrity for your marketing scheme. Does it work? Is it fraught with peril? The guys hash it out.
Spotty communication? Red flag. No data access? Red flag. Certain indicators really do prove that it's time to oust your digital marketing agency. Things get a little heated as Gyi and Conrad outline a full list of things that just aren’t acceptable, so you’ll know when to give your agency the boot.
The News:
Google is using click data as a ranking factor, because apparently Google users… like it? Ugh.
It's Goog Enough! - Blind Five Year Old
The latest announcements from Google are promising personalization:
Lily Ray on LinkedIn: New ways to find just what you need on Search
New ways to find just what you need on Search - The Keyword
Open AI is letting you make your own version of ChatGPT:
OpenAI announces platform for making custom ChatGPTs - The Verge
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| The Anatomy of an Annual Plan || Top KPIs for Law Firm Growth | 08 Nov 2023 | 00:39:23 | |
Where is your law firm headed in the next year? We know you want to improve your business, and here’s how! Later, a good plan relies on good data. Gyi and Conrad discuss the most important KPIs for your firm.
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You want growth for your law firm, so what’s your plan? Gyi and Conrad have had too many lawyers tell them, “I don’t know… you tell me!” So, that’s what we’re doing today. The guys break down the key elements of a top-notch annual plan that can be tailored to your particular business objectives.
Then, it’s question time! How does ChatGPT/AI affect marketing and SEO? Can you still stand out amongst the crowd? Gyi and Conrad discuss. Don’t forget to send in your questions and get a b-e-a-utiful Lunch Hour trucker hat.
And, last but not least, we’re bringing it back to your annual plan, dear lawyers. The guys each share their top 3 KPIs for measuring where you want to go with your law firm.
The News:
The walls are coming down, folks! MyCase now has an integration with CallRail.
Just a heads up—Google’s LSAs have, by and large, dropped from 3 to 2.
SEOs, you made a mess of the internet… as usual:
Did SEO experts ruin the internet or did Google? - The Verge
Congrats to the authors of Tiger Tactics: Powerful Strategies for Winning Law Firms. This book is definitely worth a read.
As we mentioned, 50% of people are not comfortable with their lawyers using AI, and Pras of the Fugees is one of them:
Fugees' Pras Michel Demands Retrial, Says Lawyer's Use of AI Botched Final Argument.
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| You Asked, We Answered || A Line in the SPAM | 25 Oct 2023 | 00:38:23 | |
The weary travelers are back! After collecting your most pressing marketing questions at the latest legal conferences, Gyi and Conrad are ready to answer you right here on the podcast. And later—you better learn how NOT to annoy your audience, because no one likes a spammer.
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We at the Lunch Hour pod took down your marketing questions at Clio Cloud 2023 and MTMP, and the guys are ready to answer the first three of many! If you’ve been wondering about effective client meetings, social media positioning, and targeted referrals, listen in for Gyi and Conrad’s expertise.
Later, when is your marketing too much? There is a line, folks, and you definitely don’t want to cross it. The guys talk about marketing and social media etiquette and the stuff you need to think about when you engage with your target audience.
The News:
Get ready to make a big spend on TikTok’s physical ads! It’s a thing now: Introducing Out of Phone: TikTok Beyond the Mobile Screen.
Capture Now could help you fix the intake problems at your law firm.
Clio launches Clio Duo and the insights it has to offer will most likely really change the way lawyers work.
NGage Chat is still being super lame and selling your leads, just like we told you in this episode: 5 Ways To Make Your Google Profile Pop || Is Your Chat Service Selling Your Leads?
Gyi and Conrad were on the Game Changing Attorney Podcast.
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| 5 Fresh Takeaways from Clio’s Legal Trends Report || The Case Against ROI | 11 Oct 2023 | 00:28:05 | |
Live from Clio Cloud Conference—the 2023 Legal Trends Report is hot off the presses and Gyi and Conrad have some compelling thoughts on what it’s showing us this time around. Later, they dig into the problems and limitations associated with current perceptions of ROI.
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Should you trust AI for good legal advice? Apparently, 27% of you do, but that stat is making Gyi and Conrad pretty concerned about your qualifications as a lawyer… Yikes. The guys unpack this finding and other notable insights from the 2023 Legal Trends Report.
Later, is tracking ROI truly helpful or even really possible for most law firms? Conrad’s got a soap box here, dear listeners, so get ready. For the most part, stop getting hung up on ROI metrics and point your growth mindset elsewhere.
The News:
Google v. DOJ — Yeah, there’s some stuff you won’t like:
Google search antitrust trial updates: Everything you need to know (so far)
Former Googler: Google ‘using clicks in rankings’
Has Google Ads lost all credibility? Why one advertiser says it’s time to leave
Google Maps sued for sending someone off a bridge.
Family sues Google alleging its Maps app led father to drive ... - CNN
Google Local Chat
Google Local Chat With A Live Agent Rolling Out?
Startup Alley Nominations are now open!
2024 ABA TECHSHOW Startup Alley Application - LawSites
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| LHLM 101: Targeting in Marketing || Geotargeting Misadventures | 27 Sep 2023 | 00:32:32 | |
The guys do a whole session on targeting—what it means and how to do it—and then dive deep into a case study on a well-known attorney’s geotargeting mishap.
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Welcome back to school, kids. Today’s lesson is all about hitting the marketing bullseye—with targeting! Now, targeting means that you are putting the right message in front of the right person at the right time. How do you do that? Gyi and Conrad focus this session of LHLM 101 entirely on helping you understand how to identify and connect with your target market to gain more clients for your law firm.
Later, Conrad recently stumbled upon a Facebook ad specifically targeting Pennsylvania car accident victims… but he wasn’t IN Pennsylvania. So, why did this ad appear outside of its target area, and does this equate to sending marketing investments up in smoke? Gyi and Conrad analyze this particular example of a geotargeting blunder and share their thoughts on how lawyers should approach the complexities of area-specific advertising.
The News:
From the Googly Googs at Google:
Something’s up with the Local Pack.
Gyi’s thoughts on what to do about Google’s core algorithm update and AI policy changes.
ClioCon is coming, and LHLM has swag!
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| The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly of Lawyer Billboards || Performance & Brand—Hand in Hand | 13 Sep 2023 | 00:37:12 | |
Made you look! It’s hard to stand out in a sea of lawyer billboards, but, for better or for worse, some lawyers really make a splash. Later, a performance and brand advertising romance.
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Let’s take a look at a few lawyers’ arguably tacky billboard tactics. Gyi and Conrad examine the case of Morgan & Morgan and their recent “graffitied” billboards stunt. The legal community has pegged this as an embarrassment to the profession, but it’s hard to argue with that kind of exposure. Is their strategy utterly tasteless or a genius move?
Later, performance marketing is nicely quantifiable and efficient, but brand marketing eschews measurability, preferring to just stay frustratingly fuzzy. So, are these two approaches at odds with each other? Actually, no! The guys dig in deeper to help you understand how these strategies work in tandem to improve upon each other and grow your business.
The News:
Apparently, now’s the time for consolidations and acquisitions:
EverService acquired iLawyer Marketing
Best Lawyers buys Good2bSocial
And, in other news:
In an LHLM exclusive (probably), Filevine is going through growing pains some (Gyi) have likened to a dumpster fire.
Survey: 51% of Gen Z women prefer TikTok, not Google, for search
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| Want to Win at SEO? Delete Your Content || Drafting Your Marketing Dream Team: Round 3 | 23 Aug 2023 | 00:33:51 | |
Does SEO demand that you prune old content from your website? And, Gyi and Conrad pick The Face and The Guest during round 3 of the marketing dream team draft.
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Improving your SEO performance is always a good idea, but there have been disagreements of late as to whether deleting underperforming content is a means to that end. So, what’s the deal? Should you, indeed, prune legacy content? As usual, the answer may not be black and white, but Gyi and Conrad draw from their years of experience to explain how to analyze performance in order to decide what to do with older content.
Later, time for round three of drafting your marketing dream team! Conrad picks The Face—an individual your law firm puts forward to rally affinity toward your business. Gyi picks… The Guest! Who’s that? Someone whose respected expertise translates into podcasts, events, speaking engagements, and more.
The News:
So, CNET is deleting old articles to try to improve its Google Search ranking. Google’s Danny Sullivan and John Mueller say, “No, absolutely not”, but Gyi and Conrad say, “Hmm…”
Also sensational—The ABA just pulled an Op-Ed on lawyer reforms —what’s that all about?
Lawmatics has some cool new features, and so does CallRail Labs. Could it be that they both listened to this LHLM?
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