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Josh Stamer: Designing the Golden Age of Philanthropy24 Jun 202600:59:33

Is philanthropy on the brink of a $100 trillion wealth transfer—but will that money actually solve problems, or just sit and grow? In this episode, Josh Stamer unpacks how families can move beyond writing checks to design joyful, strategic giving that changes lives in their own communities and around the world.


In this episode, Philip and Josh Stamer discuss: 

  • Distilling Philanthropy podcast and “bar conversation” concept
  • The coming $100 trillion generational wealth transfer
  • Private foundations, donor-advised funds, and charitable trusts
  • Time, talent, and treasure as frameworks for giving
  • Anonymous Philanthropy’s model for building high-impact programs


Lightbulb Moments:

  • The impending generational wealth transfer represents a once-in-history chance to redirect massive capital from passive inheritance toward world-changing causes—if families are intentional.
  • Structured vehicles like foundations and donor-advised funds matter, but the real leverage comes from aligning giving with personal joy, expertise, and a clear problem to solve.
  • Charitable dollars often get trapped in vehicles and endowments; impact requires a conscious shift from simply growing capital to actively deploying it during one’s lifetime.
  • Collaboration and reduced ego in the nonprofit sector can dramatically increase effectiveness, especially when many small organizations are tackling nearly identical problems.
  • Philanthropy should not be treated as a luxury “extra” after everything else is settled; it can be a primary avenue for influence, fulfillment, and meaningful legacy.


“There's always more money, there's never more time.” - Josh Stamer


Josh is passionate about helping successful families and their advisors maximize their philanthropic impact and achieve unprecedented levels of fulfillment. Throughout a career spanning leadership roles in technology, financial services, and philanthropy—including a recent tenure as Senior Managing Director at Foundation Source, where he helped establish more private foundations over the last decade than anyone else in the country—Josh has become a premier expert in charitable giving vehicles. Now leading Philanthropic Strategy at Anonymous Philanthropy, his insights on Generational Wealth Transfer and Entrepreneurial Philanthropy have been featured in Forbes and Barron's. Personally, Josh and his wife, Veronica, support St. Jude’s Children’s Research Hospital and The Young Life Foundations while raising their two active children, Baron and Gracie. Outside of work, Josh collects sunglasses, plays a very average game of golf, and passionately roots for the Miami Dolphins.


Connect with Josh Stamer: 

Website: www.anonymousllc.com, www.distillingphilanthropy.com 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-stamer-8881597/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Expanding Your Inner Circle Through Alignment23 Jun 202600:14:00

You are one relationship away from completely expanding your world. In this flash episode, Phil unpacks the art of intentionally aligning with people who light you up, growing your inner circle, and letting passion guide you to the right opportunities.


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Scott Richrath: Infrastructure, Water, and the Real Bottlenecks Shaping Our Future19 Jun 202601:11:02

Infrastructure, politics, and AI are colliding—but what is the true bottleneck: money, technology, or culture? In this episode, Phil reconnects with longtime friend and infrastructure strategist Scott Richrath to unpack the future of transportation, water, and energy, exploring why listening may be the most powerful tool in policy and business.


In this episode, Philip and Scott Richrath discuss: 

  • Relationship capital and reconnecting after decades
  • Public vs. private roles in infrastructure and PPPs
  • Water scarcity, Western compacts, and future Great Lakes pipelines
  • Energy demand, data centers, and micro-nuclear possibilities
  • AI as a decision-support tool and the power of listening over talking


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Understanding both public and private sector perspectives creates a major advantage when navigating infrastructure, because you can see policy, pain points, and incentives on all sides.
  • Public–private partnerships only “work” when all parties define success clearly up front and align on objectives, timelines, and trade-offs.
  • Water is emerging as a more critical constraint than transportation or even energy in the American West, and long-distance transfers or large-scale desalination will eventually be driven by economics.
  • Cultural habits and psychology, like Americans’ insistence on personal schedules and cars, can be bigger barriers to high-speed rail and transit adoption than technology itself.
  • AI is most powerful not as a replacement for human judgment, but as a fast research assistant that can validate, challenge, or refine your critical thinking and ideas.


“I used to think to be a good communicator, you had to be a good speech maker, and now it's become more and more evident to me... the more important half of that equation is the listening side.” - Scott Richrath


Scott Richrath is the co-founder of Sturnella Group, a two-person firm he and his wife started in early 2026 to provide financial and strategic consulting services to owners and builders of civil infrastructure across the United States.


Over the past 25 years, Scott has held a variety of roles in public and private engineering organizations. Most recently, he directed AtkinsRéalis’ national program management business, overseeing billion-dollar capital programs in transportation, water, and other industries. Previously, he worked for the State of Colorado in roles ranging from Water Conservation District program manager for the Division of Water Resources to Chief Financial Officer for the Department of Transportation. These experiences shaped his approach to stewardship of public resources, informed policymaking, and collaboration with teams invested in the communities they serve.


Scott’s light bulb moments have come from the clients, coworkers, mentors, and teaming partners he has collaborated with throughout his career. From coaching high school basketball in Wisconsin to leading major infrastructure programs, Scott has long believed that a mediocre plan with strong support has a better chance of success than the best plan with little support. To learn more about Scott and Sturnella Group, contact him at Scott@SturnellaGroup.com. 


Connect with Scott Richrath: 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-richrath-profile/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Omer Houston: Almighty Mind, Energy, and Turning Pressure into Fuel17 Jun 202600:51:44

A college decision turned lifelong passion into a 100K-subscriber YouTube community built on discipline, energy, and “delusional self-belief.” In this episode, you’ll hear how one creator balances pressure, negativity, and AI while inspiring thousands to chase their full potential.


In this episode, Philip and Omer Houston discuss: 

  • Origin story of content creation and Almighty Mind
  • “Delusional self-belief” and achieving big goals
  • Community building, engagement, and audience metrics
  • Discipline, momentum, and using pressure/negative energy as fuel
  • AI vs human creativity and future plans for brand expansion


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Long-term interests often leave early clues: childhood experiments with cameras, editing, and gameplay uploads can evolve into a serious creative career.
  • To accomplish truly big goals, you often need a level of self-belief others label “crazy,” and learning to own that label can be empowering.
  • Momentum comes from showing up every day. If you can’t give eight hours, you give four, two, or at least one concrete step that keeps the project moving.
  • Negative energy and pressure don’t have to be avoided; when channeled properly, they can fuel workouts, discipline, and a relentless commitment to not wasting your potential.
  • As AI gets more capable, what stands out is the distinctly human side of creative work—narrative, emotion, and personal presence—plus the real communities that form around it.


“At the end of the day, you either get it done or you don't get it done, and it doesn't really matter how you felt in that moment...” - Omer Houston


Omer Houston is the creator of AlmightyMind, a YouTube channel dedicated to self-improvement, mindset, and high-performance motivation. Built on the philosophy that the mind has the power to achieve anything it commits to, AlmightyMind blends powerful storytelling, cinematic dialogue, and intense visuals to inspire people to push beyond their limits. His content ranges from reflective and hopeful themes—such as overcoming failure, letting go of regret, and building self-belief—to high-intensity motivational edits designed to put viewers in a competitive mindset to win, whether in the gym, sports, business, or life. In addition to long-form motivational videos, Omer engages his growing audience through daily motivational posts and community polls that help him better understand the habits, goals, and lifestyles of the people his content serves. Operating as a one-man creative operation, Omer handles everything from research and narrative structure to music editing and video production. With over 20 million views and 100k subscribers to date, his work is driven by a commitment to discipline, continuous learning, and a belief that success comes from consistent effort and the courage to pursue a life beyond average.


Connect with Omer Houston:

Website: https://www.youtube.com/@AlmightyMind 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/almightymind_ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Extending Joy Into the Future Through Health and Self-Reflection16 Jun 202600:17:34

In this Flash Moment, Phil unpacks relationship capital, annual health check-ins, and the mindset shift that turns exercise and self-care into a way to extend the joy you feel today far into the future.


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Stevan Vukanic: Using LinkedIn, Mentorship, and Calculated Risk to Build a $30M Construction Vision10 Jun 202600:49:39

A construction leader breaks down how podcasts, LinkedIn, and tactical mentorship shaped his approach to risk, growth, and relationships in a volatile real estate market. In this episode, he shares how to use networking, transparency, and “highest and best use” thinking to build a durable career and business.


In this episode, Philip and Stevan Vukanic discuss: 

  • Transition from TV to podcasts and learning through diverse perspectives
  • Career path into construction and the evolution of IMX Group
  • Cost-plus agreements, commodity volatility, and risk management
  • Networking, LinkedIn strategy, and emerging entrepreneur events
  • Mentorship, highest-and-best-use, and long-term growth goals


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Listening to voices outside your usual bubble, especially through long-form podcasts, can trigger powerful “light bulb moments” that reshape how you see business and life.
  • In volatile markets, tools like cost-plus agreements and open-book transparency can protect both sides while building deep trust with clients.
  • Social platforms are most powerful when used as research tools to understand prospects, find alignment, and start more meaningful conversations, not to hard sell.
  • Clarifying your “highest and best use” and hiring around your weaknesses is a necessary step to scale beyond doing everything yourself.
  • Intentional mentorship and calculated risk-taking—grounded in numbers and pre-construction analysis—can transform early-career fear into long-term growth and confidence.


“I started listening to podcasts, and I enjoyed different perspectives… and it started expanding the way I thought.” - Stevan Vukanic


Stevan Vukanic is a young entrepreneur serving as Vice President of IMX Group LLC, where he puts clients at the center of every high-performance industrial project and premium home build. Partnering closely with businesses in manufacturing, food & beverage, and beyond, Stevan and the team listen intently to understand your unique vision and challenges, then deliver efficient, sustainable facilities that boost productivity, navigate constraints, and support your long-term growth with care and confidence. Rooted in La Grange, Illinois, with projects extending to Florida, IMX brings that same client-focused warmth to IMX Homes—helping families create dream custom luxury homes in Chicago's western suburbs and Florida. With empathy, integrity, and innovative drive, Stevan builds not just structures, but trusted partnerships and real, lasting impact for every client.


Connect with Stevan Vukanic:

Website: imxgroupllc.com 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevan-vukanic-65703881/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/imxhomes/?hl=en 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: How to Find Your People and Build Authentic Alignment09 Jun 202600:32:29

In this episode, Phil explores how to move beyond superficial, transactional networking to find the rooms and relationships that truly align with you. He breaks down the importance of paying attention to emotional and energetic signals in conversation, emphasizing that the strongest relationship capital grows in spaces like curated consortium events, where attendance is genuinely desired rather than obligatory. 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Susan E. Guthrie: Rethinking Divorce, Mediation, and the Future of Law05 Jun 202601:08:54

Everything changes for clients and for the profession when a seasoned divorce litigator walks out of the courtroom and into the world of mediation, Zoom, and AI. In this episode, you’ll hear how one lawyer rebuilt her practice around future-focused resolutions, flat-fee models, and technology long before the rest of the legal world caught up.


In this episode, Philip and Susan discuss: 

  • Emotional reality of divorce versus “it’s just a math problem”
  • Transition from litigation to mediation and dispute resolution
  • Using Zoom and online practice before and during COVID
  • AI, legal risk-aversion, and the future of law practice
  • Moving beyond the billable hour with flat fees and strategic practice design


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Treating divorce as “just a math problem” ignores the emotional chaos, parenting dynamics, and long-term family relationships that must be preserved beyond the legal process.
  • Shifting from backward-looking litigation to forward-focused negotiation can dramatically improve post‑divorce outcomes for parents and children.
  • Even when colleagues dismiss them, early adoption of tools like Zoom can create enormous opportunity when the market suddenly shifts, as it did during COVID.
  • Lawyers’ risk‑averse training often leads them to reject new technologies like AI, but the real opportunity lies in understanding the risks and building strategies to manage them.
  • Moving from hourly billing to flat-fee and value-based models can increase trust, reduce friction with clients, and free professionals from obsessively tracking every billable minute.


“Criminal attorneys see the worst people at their best, and divorce attorneys see the best people at their worst.” - Susan E. Guthrie


Susan E. Guthrie is an attorney, mediator, and nationally recognized practice-building expert with over 30 years of experience in the legal profession. She is the Immediate Past Chair of the ABA Section of Dispute Resolution and a leading voice in helping professionals build modern, profitable practices. Susan is the host of the top 1% podcast Divorce & Beyond and the creator of The Practice Playbook Podcast, where she shares strategies on business growth, thought leadership, and innovative pricing models. She is also a best-selling author of The Thought Leadership Playbook and other books in The Practice Playbook Series, helping professionals move beyond traditional models to build practices that align with their goals and values.


Connect with Susan E. Guthrie: 

Website: https://susaneguthrie.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susaneguthrie/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/susaneguthrie 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Joseph Hargrove and Peter Henrich: How Business Owners Protect and Grow Their Wealth03 Jun 202600:58:46

When most of your net worth is tied up in your business, “someday” planning isn’t good enough. In this episode, two seasoned private wealth advisors break down how to navigate market noise, design smarter exits, and turn liquidity events into lasting, intentional wealth for you and your family.


In this episode, Philip, Joseph, and Peter discuss: 

  • Market expectations and economic outlook for 2026
  • Tax strategy, cash flow, and year‑round planning for business owners
  • Balancing reinvesting in the business vs. personal liquidity and diversification
  • Fundamentals vs. momentum, prediction markets, and “noise” in investing
  • Family offices, generational wealth, and planning for the “day after” a liquidity event


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Effective wealth management for business owners starts with proactive, year‑round planning, especially around taxes, liquidity, and eventual exit, not last‑minute December scrambles.
  • Reinvesting heavily in a successful business can make sense, but ignoring diversification and personal liquidity leaves owners vulnerable to shocks, as many learned during the pandemic.
  • In a world driven by news cycles, memes, and prediction markets, returning to fundamentals and academically grounded investment principles greatly improves the probability of long‑term success.
  • A major liquidity event requires more than financial modeling; it demands intentional planning for identity, purpose, and how you’ll “matter” the day after you sell.
  • Whether you’re building a family office or just starting to accumulate wealth, defining clear outcomes first and then choosing the simplest, most efficient structure to reach them is far more effective than chasing complexity for its own sake.


“The number one thing we really want to lean into is plan, plan, plan.” - Joseph Hargrove


Joseph Hargrove is a Vice President and Financial Advisor with Merrill Lynch Wealth Management, where he helps families grow, preserve, and transition assets across generations through personalized financial planning. Before joining Merrill, he spent eleven years building a wealth management practice at Charles Schwab, following earlier roles in wholesaling and institutional sales with Bond Wave and First Trust Portfolios. With more than eighteen years of industry experience, Joe earned a B.A. in Finance and Investment Consulting from DePaul University and lives with his family in Chicago.


Peter Henrich is a Private Wealth Manager with Merrill Private Wealth Management and joined The Baldwin Tyndorf Group in 2023, where he focuses on business development, portfolio analysis, investment due diligence, and client relationships. Before Merrill, he was Chief Development Officer at CBIS, a boutique investment manager, and previously spent nearly a decade in investment banking at Credit Suisse, Citigroup, and UBS. Peter earned his B.A. from Northwestern University and his M.B.A. from Ross School of Business, and lives in Winnetka with his wife and three children. 


Connect with The HNH Group, Merrill Lynch Wealth Management: 

Website: https://advisor.ml.com/sites/il/chicago-loop-il/hnh-group 


Connect with Joseph Hargrove: 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephhargrove 


Connect with Peter Henrich: 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-henrich1 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Stop Filtering Your Own Opportunities02 Jun 202600:22:07

Phil Fornaro discusses the growth of his team and the importance of reconnecting with old contacts. He emphasizes the value of relationship capital and the transformative power of AI, particularly ChatGPT, in his professional and personal life. Phil also talks about his journey towards securing a board position, highlighting the duality of his visionary and practical skills. 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Rhod Shaw: Inside the Real Power of Lobbying, Policy, and Perspective27 May 202601:02:13

Step inside Washington with a veteran lobbyist who’s spent 30 years translating between business and policy and challenging how we see politics, power, and our own biases. In this episode, you’ll learn why understanding the why behind DC is the real competitive advantage, in business and in life.


In this episode, Philip and Rhod discuss: 

  • Purpose and origin of the consortium and cross‑pollinating insight
  • What lobbyists actually do and how effective lobbying really works
  • Trust, timing, and choosing the right clients and issues
  • How political power and Washington’s operating rules have evolved
  • Energy policy, AI/data centers, and the future of U.S. decision-making


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Policy makers are overwhelmed by the sheer volume and diversity of issues, so the real currency in DC is trusted, concise, reality‑based information.
  • Effective advocacy starts with understanding both sides of an issue, plus the “why now” of timing and legislative vehicles, not just demanding a result.
  • Building durable influence requires serving two masters simultaneously: the paying client and the public officials you must never mislead.
  • Political and policy environments are increasingly unstable, so businesses desperately need more predictability and a clearer sense of where the “puck” is going.
  • Reducing personal and political bias—by deliberately consuming views you disagree with creates better decisions, better conversations, and less anger.


“You only get one chance to be an idiot, because the day you show up and say, ‘I want you to take your scarce time, which we just talked about, and I would like to talk to you about a topic I haven't thought through…’ Do you think when they're that busy, they want to talk to you again in six months?” - Rhod Shaw


Rhod Shaw brings more than 35 years of high-level government experience to the Alpine Group, where he has represented Fortune 500 companies, international trade associations, state and local governments, and industry leaders on legislative and executive branch matters. Known as one of Washington’s elite consultants, he combines deep policy expertise, strategic political insight, and bipartisan relationships across both the House and Senate to help clients navigate complex issues and drive successful legislative and grassroots initiatives. His policy work spans major industries, including telecommunications, energy, automotive, technology, financial services, and intellectual property, while his leadership roles with organizations such as FIPRA International have expanded the firm’s global reach and access to expertise across major economic markets worldwide. In addition, he advises several start-up companies in the technology, energy, sports, and entertainment sectors.


Connect with Rhod Shaw: 

Website: https://alpinegroup.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhod-shaw-36652414/ 



Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Why You Must Stress Test Your Ideas with Opposite Personalities26 May 202600:19:41

Phil Fornaro discusses the importance of perspective in understanding introverts and extroverts. Phil emphasizes the need for stress testing in various contexts, including legal documents and website development, to ensure inclusivity. The episode underscores the value of diverse feedback and continuous learning.


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Mathew Kerbis: How Subscription Models and AI Are Rewiring Legal Practice20 May 202600:55:11

What happens when you stop billing for time and start charging for value while letting AI do the heavy lifting? In this episode, discover how the subscription model and purpose-built AI tools are transforming how lawyers work, get paid, and show up for their clients and families.


In this episode, Philip and Mathew Kerbis discuss: 

  • Breaking free from the billable hour and valuing personal time
  • The subscription-based law firm model and lifetime client value
  • Using AI as a “legal thought partner” and specialist tool stack
  • Practical workflows with tools like Paxton, Perplexity, and NotebookLM
  • Scaling a modern law practice and changing attorney mindsets


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Detaching revenue from hours worked opens the door to valuing both client outcomes and personal or family time in a healthier, more sustainable way. 
  • Subscription-based legal services shift the focus from one-off transactions to lifetime value, turning each client into an ongoing relationship instead of a single “big bite of the apple.” 
  • Purpose-built AI tools can dramatically reduce the time needed to produce high-quality legal work, making it more valuable for both the client (faster results) and the lawyer (better margins). 
  • Transitioning away from the billable hour is more of a mindset and behavior change than a technology problem: many firms need a “cold turkey” moment to truly commit.
  • Context and curation are becoming core professional skills: those who can frame the right questions, choose the right tools, and assemble the right sources will deliver the best outcomes.


“Once you divorce time value from money and what actual clients are interested in paying for, you start to realize that the faster and higher quality you can get it back to the client… the more valuable it is.” - Mathew Kerbis


Mathew Kerbis is The Subscription Attorney and CEO of Practi. He’s on a mission to affordably serve clients at scale via the subscription model and help attorneys to abandon the billable hour. Kerbis uses AI as a law firm owner, legal podcast host and producer, and founder of a legal technology company. He started Practi to help law firms trade billing time for predictable revenue. 


Connect with Mathew Kerbis: 

Website: https://www.practi.ai/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerbisverse/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/practiai/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Passion, Relationship Capital, and the Future of LBM19 May 202600:21:48

In this Flash Moment, Phil reflects on explosive podcast growth, unexpected setbacks, and the power of perspective shifts. He shares how passion, community, and relationship capital are driving Light Bulb Moments and the Bright Community forward in an age increasingly shaped by AI.


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Dr. Jake Teeny: Emotion, AI, and the New Rules of Influence13 May 202601:03:44

What happens when a persuasion scientist looks at AI, political polarization, and modern marketing through the lens of psychology? In this episode, we dive into how emotion, personalization, and intelligent machines are reshaping everything from our ads to our anxiety—and what to do about it.


In this episode, Philip and Dr. Jake Teeny discuss: 

  • Political polarization, conversation, and democracy
  • AI’s role in persuasion, personalization, and social media
  • Marketing, advertising, creativity, and hyper‑personalization
  • Emotion regulation, anxiety, and reframing negative feelings
  • Storytelling, emotional intelligence, and the power of psychology in business


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Political polarization is amplified by social media and smartphones, but many people’s beliefs are much closer to the middle than the extreme caricatures we hold in our heads.
  • AI is currently strongest at analytics and targeting, while human creativity still leads in complex, compelling advertising and storytelling.
  • Personalization works through self‑relevance, fluency, and deeper thinking—but when it crosses into surveillance or touches stigmatized identities, it quickly backfires.
  • Emotion regulation strategies like reappraisal—shifting from “what if” to “even if”—can transform anxiety and stress into more manageable, even motivating, experiences.
  • Emotional intelligence and an understanding of psychology often predict real‑world performance better than raw IQ, influencing everything from procrastination to leadership and team dynamics.


“Good marketing is good storytelling.” - Dr. Jake Teeny


Jake Teeny holds a B.S. in Psychology and Philosophy from Santa Clara University and earned his M.A. and Ph.D. in Social Psychology from The Ohio State University. He is currently an Associate Professor of Marketing at Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Management, where his research focuses on the science of social influence, exploring what makes messages more persuasive, why people share ideas, and how AI can personalize content to drive engagement. His work has been published in leading psychology and marketing journals, and he has contributed widely cited theoretical frameworks on influence. Beyond academia, Jake shares behavioral insights through his blog, Everyday Psych, and teaches MBA students, executives, and corporate audiences on topics such as persuasion, storytelling, and emotional intelligence. He is also an accomplished creative writer, with numerous short stories and screenplays featured in literary magazines and national competitions, continually bringing imaginative narratives to life across genres.


Connect with Dr. Jake Teeny: 

Website: https://everydaypsych.com/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: The Power of Time, Detail, and Serendipity in Building a Life You Love12 May 202600:28:31

Phil Fornaro recounts a trip delayed by a tragic tarmac accident, his family's tradition of visiting New York during spring break, and various social and professional engagements. Phil highlights interactions with friends and colleagues, including a young entrepreneur named Alex Green, and reflects on the importance of networking and mentorship. He also shares insights from a tour of the new Chase Tower, emphasizing the value of time, attention to detail, and the impact of small actions over time.


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Robert Mestman: How Personal Relationships and Community Roots Power a Modern Campaign08 May 202600:26:01

How do you combine targeted digital strategy with old‑school, face‑to‑face connections? In this bonus episode, you’ll get a behind‑the‑scenes look at what it really takes to run, stay human, and keep your family close through the campaign grind.


In this episode, Philip and Robert Mestman discuss: 

  • Running a countywide judicial campaign in Orange County
  • Social media and digital targeting in modern elections
  • Yard signs, canvassing, and the power of personal connection
  • Victims’ rights and the impact of Marcy’s Law
  • Family support, community service, and staying grounded while campaigning


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Running a “down ballot” judicial race demands extra effort to educate voters who often have little information about the candidates.
  • A multifaceted campaign that blends social media, digital ads, signs, and direct voter contact can be more effective than relying on any single channel.
  • Showing the human side—community service, family, even the family dog—often resonates more online than formal, “all business” campaign content.
  • Personal connection remains critical in politics; small meet‑and‑greets and neighborhood conversations can turn casual voters into committed advocates.
  • Balancing a demanding campaign with family life requires strong support at home and a willingness to lean on those who know you best.


“People want to see kind of the human side of candidates, that you're just a regular person in the community, volunteering, helping kids, kind of give the human interest side that those, those posts I find, are more popular than the mundane, campaign-related posts.” - Robert Mestman


Episode 155 with Robert: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/robert-mestman-building-relationships-serving-well/id1748362429?i=1000743302055


Robert Mestman is an Orange County (California) Senior Assistant District Attorney and part of the Executive Management Team for DA Todd Spitzer.  He has been a criminal prosecutor for more than 24 years and also served as a special federal prosecutor and on the Board of Directors of the California District Attorneys Association. Before his work in the criminal justice system, Robert worked on Capitol Hill in the US Senate as a legislative aide.  Robert graduated cum laude from Northwestern University School of Law and has an MBA from the Kellogg School of Management.  He has been in public service for most of his career, devoted to public safety and the fair administration of justice. He is running for Superior Court judge in the June 2026 election. Robert lives in Huntington Beach, California, with his wife and two children.   


Connect with Robert Mestman: 

Website: https://mestman4judge.com/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Eido Walny: Estate Planning, Rainmaking, and Building a Life Around Relationships06 May 202601:05:53

Discover how a small-firm estate planning attorney became a rainmaker, international connector, and community leader—without ever “chasing the money.” In this episode, you’ll hear practical insights on estate planning, powers of attorney, professional networking, and why doing the right thing first is the smartest business strategy of all.


In this episode, Philip and Eido discuss: 

  • Rainmaking as a learned (and chosen) skill
  • Practical realities and misconceptions of estate planning
  • Procrastination, mortality, and creating urgency for clients
  • Building referral networks, not keeping score, and being a connector
  • International relationships, personal passions, and community leadership


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Rainmaking isn’t an innate gift reserved for extroverts; it’s a skill that can be developed deliberately by anyone willing to get uncomfortable, practice, and keep showing up.
  • The real value in estate planning comes from clear, client‑friendly documents and education—not TV‑inspired myths like “readings of the will” or one‑size‑fits‑all statutory forms drafted decades ago.
  • Procrastination around wills, trusts, and especially powers of attorney is common, but waiting until “later” often closes off options and creates chaos when illness or tragedy strikes.
  • The strongest professional networks are built by givers who don’t keep score, focus on helping others, and let referrals and revenue follow naturally rather than forcing transactions.
  • Combining personal passions (like cars, watches, or travel) with professional relationships creates authentic connections that benefit clients, deepen trust, and make a career more fulfilling.


“I had a client early in my career tell me, ‘Don't do things for money. Let money be the reward for the good things that you do.’ That comment literally changed the trajectory of my career.” - Eido Walny


Eido M. Walny is the founder of Walny Legal Group LLC, where he focuses on estate planning, asset protection, business succession, probate, and trust administration, with additional experience in tax, business, and real estate law. A graduate of Boston University School of Law and the University of Chicago, he advises families on preserving and transferring multi-generational wealth through strategic planning, including wills, trusts, charitable giving, and special needs planning. Eido is a nationally recognized speaker, author, and expert witness, and has received numerous honors, including Best Lawyers in America and Wisconsin SuperLawyer distinctions. He holds prestigious designations such as Accredited Estate Planner (AEP), Estate Planning Law Specialist (EPLS), and TEP, and serves as the national estate planning editor for Investopedia. Actively involved in professional and civic leadership, he is also President of the Village of Bayside, Wisconsin, and contributes to various legal, philanthropic, and advisory organizations.


Connect with Eido Walny: 

Website: https://walnylegal.com/eido-m-walny/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Building Up Your Relationship Capital05 May 202600:20:03

Phil Fornaro discusses the evolution of the "Light Bulb Moments" (LBM) podcast and his Bright Community, emphasizing user feedback and the new "Sparkline" feature for listener contributions. He highlights the importance of Relationship Capital, defined as accumulated trust and alignment through consistent connections. 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Dean Newlund, Debi Ronca, and Phil Fornaro: The Journey to Top Ranks01 May 202601:09:42

Light Bulb Moments - Wise Guys Round Table Live Event: 5/4/26 (Monday) at 6:30 pm CST - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLlSTaXm1hs 


Three top-ranked podcasters pull back the curtain on what it really takes to launch, grow, and sustain a show that matters—from messy beginnings and mindset shifts to building systems, community, and unexpected opportunities. If you're somewhere between idea and “Is this even working?”, this candid roundtable will recalibrate how you think about the podcasting journey.


In this episode, Philip, Dean, and Debi discuss: 

  • Origin stories and early expectations for each podcast
  • Evolving goals, rebrands, and shifts in show direction
  • Hidden benefits of podcasting: connection, learning, and opportunities
  • Consistency, workflow, and building supportive teams
  • Monetization, sponsorships, and future growth plans


Lightbulb Moments:

  • You don’t need perfectly defined expectations to start; clarity about your show’s true purpose often emerges only after you begin and let the podcast evolve.
  • The most powerful outcomes of podcasting are often intangible—deeper relationships, unexpected collaborations, and personal growth that can’t be easily tracked to dollars.
  • Consistency is everything: building a content cushion, systematizing guest booking, and delegating production work are what make long-term publishing sustainable.
  • Staying aligned with a clear vision for your show—who it’s for and what it stands for—helps you choose the right guests and say “no” to misaligned opportunities.
  • Monetization doesn’t have to be limited to ad reads; sponsorships, coaching, speaking, books, and community-building can all be strategically supported by the podcast.


“The more authentic you are with your podcast or how you operate inside of you, the easier it is to connect with people.” - Phil Fornaro


Dean Newlund is an accomplished podcast host, attorney, and business strategist who focuses on helping professionals improve performance and build stronger client relationships. Drawing from his legal background and experience in leadership coaching, he brings a disciplined yet approachable style to his interviews. Dean is known for uncovering practical strategies that listeners can immediately apply to elevate their practice, communication, and results.


Debi Ronca is a communication and engagement strategist who helps professionals and organizations build stronger relationships, improve clarity, and elevate their impact. Through her work as a speaker, consultant, and podcast host, she focuses on creating meaningful conversations that drive connection, growth, and authentic leadership.


Connect with Dean Newlund: 

Website: https://mfileadership.com/ 


Connect with Debi Ronca: 

Website: https://debironca.com/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Brian Zielinski and Jonathan Culley: Building Smarter Tech Stacks in the Age of AI29 Apr 202601:07:14

Discover how a former medical tech rep, an AI “insatiable learner,” and a curated expert network are redefining digital transformation for small and mid-sized businesses. This episode dives into practical AI, smarter tech stacks, and the mentality needed to thrive in a world where technology doubles in power every few months.


In this episode, Philip, Brian Zielinski, and Jonathan Culley discuss: 

  • Origin story and mission of Shape Connect
  • Building and integrating the right tech stack for SMBs
  • Practical, business-focused uses of AI
  • Curated expert networks and vetted referral ecosystems
  • Mindset, mentorship, and the “eight wire mentality” for entrepreneurs


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Many small and mid-sized companies struggle not because they lack tools, but because their tech stack is fragmented, poorly integrated, and selected in departmental silos.
  • AI is evolving at an unprecedented pace, and the real advantage goes to businesses that treat it as a practical problem-solver rather than a buzzword or a threat.
  • Successful transformation starts with a diagnostic mindset—understanding workflows, bottlenecks, and real needs—before choosing software or experts.
  • The “boring work” that no one wants to do is exactly what AI will increasingly handle, freeing people to focus on higher-value, more human, and more creative work.
  • In a world of continuous change, the winning edge comes from being nimble, saying yes to new opportunities, and adopting an “eight wire mentality” of resourcefulness with whatever tools are at hand.


“I do think we have to make sure that we're setting up a foundation in our business, [that puts our customers] on a trajectory to that state of continuous transformation.” - Brian Zielinski


Brian Zielinski is an innovator with diverse business and military leadership experience. He has served as a Regional Sales Director and Director of Marketing for two multi-billion-dollar healthcare companies. Beyond growing large brands, Brian has spent much of his career helping small and medium-sized healthcare practices build strategies to win in local markets. As a Signal Officer in the US Army, he executed missions in Afghanistan and Kuwait, assessing new technologies and improving network infrastructure. Through his business and military experience, Brian recognized the importance of identifying the right partner vendors to solve problems.


Jonathan Culley’s blend of autodidact and polymath gives him a strong understanding of complex datasets and processing systems. With two decades of experience across multiple disciplines, his curiosity drives him to explore widely. From project management and payment processing to technical services and website creation, Jonathan’s “never say no” attitude has built a reputation for achieving what others deemed impossible. He has held numerous roles and worked with prominent organizations, including a major microchip manufacturer, a Canadian economic think tank, and Google. He is also well-versed in artificial intelligence, with immersive training from AWS.


Connect with Brian Zielinski: 

Website: https://www.shapeconnect.com/business-software 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-zielinski07 


Connect with Jonathan Culley: 

Website: https://shapeconnect.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanculley/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Finding Your One Word and Living in Alignment28 Apr 202600:32:28

Phil Fornaro discusses the importance of alignment in personal and professional life, sharing how ChatGPT helps him synthesize thoughts and improve efficiency. Phil highlights the significance of synergy in conversations and relationships, using examples to illustrate the difference between aligned and misaligned interactions.


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Rob Hanna: How to Stand Out in Law with Content, Community, and Cutting-Edge Tech22 Apr 202601:02:11

What if the thing that sets you apart in law isn’t your credentials, but your voice, your content, and your willingness to embrace what’s next? In this episode, Rob Hanna shares how podcasting, personal branding, and AI can turn an ordinary legal career into a lasting legacy.


In this episode, Philip and Rob Hanna discuss: 

  • Using podcasting as a strategic business growth tool
  • Personal branding, LinkedIn, and becoming a Top Voice
  • Legacy, mentorship, and lessons from a successful legal career
  • AI, legal tech, and the future of law firms
  • Balancing entrepreneurship, family, and being present


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Podcasting can be a powerful “value-first” strategy to build trust, open doors with ideal clients, and cut through a crowded legal market.
  • A well-crafted, consistent LinkedIn presence works as your “digital welcome mat,” shaping first impressions and creating inbound opportunities before you ever pitch.
  • Legacy isn’t just about business success; it’s about being “live respected, die regretted” and creating relationships so strong that clients remember you long after the work is done.
  • AI and data are rapidly reshaping legal services, and those who stay tech-curious and ahead of the curve will capture new opportunities instead of being replaced by them.
  • The “magic” in your career and life often sits in the difficult, uncomfortable work you’re avoiding. Action on those tasks is what unlocks the next level


“The magic you are looking for is in the work you're avoiding.” - Rob Hanna


Connect with Rob Hanna: 

Website: https://legallyspeakingpodcast.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/legally-speaking-podcast 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/legallyspeakingpodcast/ 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/LegalSpeakPod 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1YLYjNQDWRuXjV45DhhE9g 

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@legallyspeakingpodcast  


About Rob Hanna: Based in the UK, Robert Hanna is the Founder and Managing Director of KC Partners, a legal talent and content firm focused on building a strong legal community. He helps legal professionals secure roles across the UK, Europe, the Middle East, Asia, and the US.


Rob has been featured in leading publications such as The Law Society, Law.com, and Above The Law, and has built multi-million-pound teams throughout his career. He also advises and invests in legal tech startups, including Caseguru, an AI platform for case summaries and client-lawyer matching, and Lexidesk.ai, a 24/7 AI legal receptionist.


A recognized LinkedIn Top Voice and UK Creator Accelerator winner, Rob is the most followed legal recruiter on social media. He hosts the Legally Speaking Podcast, a top 1% global show sponsored by Clio, where he shares insights on law, business, and innovation.


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Reducing Friction, Growing Connections21 Apr 202600:16:39

Phil Fornaro discusses the formation of a community around his "Light Bulb Moments" podcast, emphasizing the importance of participation and feedback. He shares a personal anecdote about his preference for stapling documents over using paper clips, highlighting the need for clear communication of personal workflow preferences. 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Anna Kirby: Leading with Discipline and Intentional Action15 Apr 202601:07:39

Anna Kirby has managed over 1,500 residential units and $30 million in renovations and capital improvements. She is an Illinois-licensed Realtor, a National Kitchen and Bath Association-certified designer, and an IREM Certified Property Manager. Tapping into her wide-ranging experience covering many aspects of properties and management, Anna pushes herself and the Claritas team to be better every day. 


She brings over 20 years of leadership, real estate, project management, construction, and design experience to her mission—creating places where people can thrive.


Anna received her Bachelor of Arts in English, with Honors in Art and a Writing Certificate, from Pennsylvania State University in State College, PA. She earned an Associate Degree in Interior Design from the Harrington College of Design in Chicago. She has won awards for her rug designs in both the Oscar Isberian Rug Design and the Architectural Digest and Starck Carpet rug design competitions. She is an NKBA Certified Kitchen and Bath Designer. She completed Darren Hardy's Hero's Journey leadership training and became a Realtor in 2022. Anna earned her Certified Property Manager designation from IREM in 2023 and her Sponsoring Broker license in 2024.


In this episode, Philip and Anna Kirby discuss: 

  • Planning and staying proactive
  • Building where others are not looking
  • Delegating to grow and avoid overload
  • Choosing behavior over emotion


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Waiting until the last minute creates unnecessary stress and missed opportunities. Preparing early, adjusting your approach, and staying ahead of problems leads to better outcomes and smoother execution.
  • Opportunities often exist outside crowded spaces. Creating your own market or moving toward what is emerging gives you a stronger position than competing where everyone else already is.
  • Trying to do everything yourself leads to burnout and dropped responsibilities. Trusting your team, listening well, and delegating tasks allows both you and your business to grow more effectively.
  • How you feel in the moment should not control how you act. Leading with discipline, respect, and intentional responses creates better relationships and stronger long-term results.


“How you feel does not need to dictate how you behave. And the way you behave can actually influence how you feel.” - Anna Kirby


Connect with Anna Kirby: 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anna-kirby-1941749/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Building Efficiency into Your Daily Life14 Apr 202600:20:30

Phil Fornaro discusses strategies for overcoming challenges and improving efficiency, using personal anecdotes and examples. He shares how his podcast, "Light Bulb Moments," has gained global traction, with listeners from 93 countries. Phil highlights the benefits of TSA PreCheck, which reduced his airport security wait time from 25 to 5 minutes. He emphasizes the importance of finding workarounds, such as Fast Pass at Disney World and automating processes. Phil also advises on creating a decision tree to address pain points, staying proactive, and leveraging technology to streamline tasks. 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Rich Carroll: Scaling Smarter with Data and Strategy08 Apr 202600:49:48

Rich Carroll leads the CFO Advisory Practice at Maximus Partners. He brings 10 years of experience as a CFO and 25 years of corporate finance experience. Rich is an accomplished CFO who partners with CEOs and business leaders to accelerate growth and drive transformation. His experience spans private equity-backed, private, and public companies across various industries, including Software, Services, Tech, and Healthcare, working with organizations ranging from 30 to 20,000 employees. He has successfully facilitated four exits throughout his career.

 

Rich is a unique strategist, seamlessly executing across all aspects of the business, from back-office operations to go-to-market functions. His understanding of resource deployment, scalable processes, and technology implementation equips him to tackle the ever-changing challenges that companies face.


In this episode, Philip and Rich Carroll discuss: 

  • Building expertise through mentorship
  • Organizing financials for clarity
  • Integrating finances into planning
  • Turning business into a product


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Strong foundations matter. Learning from mentors helps you develop deep knowledge that becomes the base for ideas, strategy, and entrepreneurial growth.
  • Clean, up-to-date financials are critical. Weekly cash flow reports and dashboards give leaders real-time insight so they can act instead of react.
  • Ideas, hires, and processes are only as effective as their connection to a financial plan. Aligning actions with projections drives sustainable growth.
  • Thinking of your business as a product uncovers scalability. Identifying market gaps and adaptable solutions accelerates expansion across industries.


“I talk to CEOs all the time about our goal: to work ourselves out of a job. And the way we do that is to make sure that we give them a team.” - Rich Carroll


Connect with Rich Carroll: 

Website: https://www.maximuspartnersllc.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/maximus-partners/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Turning AI Conversations into Business Impact07 Apr 202600:13:32

Phil Fornaro discusses the rapid advancements in AI, particularly ChatGPT, and its integration into his business processes, specifically for creating pitch decks. He shares how AI has evolved to understand his conversational tone and business structure, allowing for more efficient and effective presentations. Phil also emphasizes the importance of setting clear, achievable goals, such as organizing his office and maintaining a clean desk, which has significantly improved his productivity and overall well-being.


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Dan O'Donohue: From Franchise Risk-Taking to AI-Powered Customer Growth01 Apr 202601:24:05

Daniel O'Donohue is an entrepreneur and technology founder based in Chicago. He is the founder of TaskByte.ai, a platform helping brands build stronger customer relationships through interactive messaging, data-driven insights, and AI-powered engagement.


Before launching TaskByte, Daniel spent years building and operating multiple businesses, gaining firsthand experience with the challenges companies face as they try to stay connected with customers while scaling. That experience ultimately led him to build technology designed to turn everyday customer interactions into lasting relationships.


In addition to TaskByte, Daniel is the founder of Six Corners Ventures, a firm focused on building and supporting a range of business ventures. His work sits at the intersection of entrepreneurship, technology, and customer engagement, with a focus on building systems that help companies grow while staying closely connected to their customers.


In this episode, Philip and Dan O'Donohue discuss: 

  • Designing calculated risks before life gets complicated
  • Turning existing customers into repeat superfans
  • Using AI as an everyday thinking and execution partner
  • Gamified surveys as a growth engine for local businesses


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Taking a calculated risk earlier in life, before kids, mortgages, and heavy expenses, can make stepping away from a secure corporate job far more feasible and reversible.
  • Rather than chasing only new customers, there is enormous untapped value in engaging existing customers more intelligently and frequently, using data to increase their lifetime value.
  • AI tools are now powerful enough that anyone can effectively have a “full‑time assistant” in their pocket; the real differentiator is who learns to prompt, question, and combine these tools best.
  • Structured surveys and gamified experiences don’t just generate promo redemptions—they surface patterns, themes, and issues that can be turned into concrete operational improvements and better customer experiences.


"I do believe the best marketing doesn't feel like marketing."  - Dan O'Donohue


Connect with Dan O'Donohue: 

Website: https://taskbyte.ai/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-o-donohue-7a44b029/ 

Email: dan@taskbyte.ai 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Building Momentum with the Next Generation of Entrepreneurs31 Mar 202600:14:27

Phil Fornaro discusses the organic growth of a young person's event, which brought together local entrepreneurs and professionals. The event, attended by 30 people, featured networking and discussions. Phil emphasizes the importance of young people reaching out and connecting, highlighting the positive feedback and enthusiasm from attendees. Future plans include a May event with panel discussions and networking sessions. Phil also mentions integrating a call-in feature on the website to facilitate interaction and feedback. 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Can (Jon) Tavsanoglu: Adapting Constantly and Learning from Every Moment25 Mar 202600:56:46

Can (Jon) Tavsanoglu is the Founder and CIO of Caldera Real Estate Ventures, where he leverages over 15 years of principal-side real estate investment and development experience. He has executed more than $2.5 billion in transactions, developments, and financings, building a reputation for delivering disciplined, data-driven strategies for family offices and alternative investors.


Jon holds a Master’s in Real Estate from Columbia University (2009) and a Bachelor of Architecture from Istanbul Technical University, beginning his career as an architect in London. Before founding Caldera, he served as a senior investment executive and head of acquisitions at prominent real estate investment firms, developing a vertically integrated skill set across acquisitions, financing, and asset management.


He is a licensed securities professional (FINRA Series 24, 82, and 63) and a member of the Urban Land Institute (ULI) US, ULI New York Housing Council, Economic Club of New York, Forbes Business Council, and Turkish Philanthropy Funds. Based in New York City, Jon combines his global perspective, architectural background, and investment expertise to guide clients through complex private-market real estate opportunities with a focus on long-term, structured growth.


In this episode, Philip and Jon Tavsanoglu discuss: 

  • Customizing and implementing
  • Adapting and evolving
  • Seeking outside perspective
  • Learning and paying it forward


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Build and execute strategies that are tailored to each client’s unique needs, circumstances, and goals. Continuously adjust these approaches as clients’ priorities, business environments, and markets evolve to maintain relevance and effectiveness.
  • Entrepreneurs and professionals must grow alongside their clients, staying flexible to changing demands while learning from every interaction. Absorb insights from clients’ behaviors and experiences to refine your own perspective and decision-making.
  • Regularly step back and gain an external viewpoint from someone not immersed in day-to-day operations. This helps avoid getting lost in the weeds, identify blind spots, and make better-informed decisions across business and investment strategies.
  • Understand that breakthroughs are the result of thousands of small insights accumulated over time. Share knowledge, mentor others, and create growth opportunities, fostering a culture of generosity and continuous learning that benefits both you and your community.


“Mentorship is kind of a win‑win situation. I learn from younger colleagues of mine, and I give them business advice and life advice — solicited and unsolicited.” - Can (Jon) Tavsanoglu


Connect with Can (Jon) Tavsanoglu: 

Website: https://www.calderarev.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cantavsanoglu/ 

Email: cio@calderav.com


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Balancing AI, Productivity, and Well-Being24 Mar 202600:21:16

Phil discusses the impact of artificial intelligence (AI) on his personal and professional life, highlighting its role in enhancing productivity and providing new insights. He mentions the "will be" conference, where he was advised to learn something new about AI daily. Phil introduces the "Sparkline" feature on his website, encouraging community engagement. He shares his experience with AI, noting its ability to align with his thought processes and improve content. Fornaro also reflects on the balance between AI usage and personal well-being, using past experiences to illustrate the benefits of understanding and adapting to AI's needs. The episode concludes with a preview of the next guest, Jon Tavsanoglu, who will discuss real estate ventures and family offices.


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Jeff Egan: Why People Matter More Than the Deal18 Mar 202601:02:00

Jeffrey Egan is a business leader, strategic advisor, and entrepreneurial executive. Jeff grew up in New York City and started working in capital markets, trading short-term bonds and other credit investments. He did this at Kidder, Peabody, and then Chase Manhattan, navigating through two notable transactions that still live today in what became UBS and JP Morgan, respectively. The second phase of his career was using his capital markets knowledge to build institutional investment management platforms. Following a relatively successful exit from this business in 2016, Jeff entered the vast and opportunistic world of on-regulated pools of private capital. He founded a merchant bank advisory firm with other Wall Street professionals, purposely engaging across the landscape of venture capital, hedge funds, and private equity. This led to managing the investments for a multigenerational family office that had been a co-investor with Jeff, and multiple engagements in the lower middle market with independent sponsors and operators. He currently sits as a strategic advisor to Redbird Capital on behalf of their financial services portfolio.


In this episode, Philip and Jeff Egan discuss: 

  • Protecting your time in a high-velocity world
  • Investing in people before deals
  • Creating opportunities in the “in-between” moments
  • Bringing value instead of waiting to be asked


Lightbulb Moments:

  • In an always-connected environment, distractions compete constantly for your attention. Being intentional about how you spend your time allows you to focus on meaningful relationships and the opportunities that truly matter.
  • Successful investors often evaluate the character, story, and conviction of the people behind the opportunity first. A strong deal with the wrong partners can fail, while the right people can shape a good idea into something exceptional.
  • Many valuable opportunities don’t come from formal meetings or major events. Instead, they emerge through casual conversations, introductions, and follow-ups where trust is built, and relationships deepen.
  • Showing up prepared to contribute—whether in business or personal relationships—signals initiative and generosity. Offering value proactively removes friction and helps strengthen connections with others.


“All those little things that happen in between… add up and matter, and they support what ends up becoming maybe a greater deal or a greater outcome.” - Jeff Egan


Connect with Jeff Egan: 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-egan-00023b15/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Building Value Through Genuine Professional Relationships17 Mar 202600:12:18

Phil discusses the importance of having proactive professional relationships, emphasizing that professionals should go beyond their job roles to add value and interact with clients in a non-transactional way. He shares a personal anecdote about signing up for a gym's senior option, highlighting the benefits of aging. Phil advises clients to demand more from their professionals, including regular check-ins, timely updates, and personal connections. He also stresses the importance of building genuine relationships with professionals, which can enhance business and personal growth.


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Dave Munson: Make What You Love11 Mar 202600:49:39

Dave Munson is the founder of Saddleback Leather Co., a globally recognized brand known for crafting over-engineered leather bags built to last 100 years. His journey began in a small leather shop in Mexico with one goal: “Make it so tough my grandkids fight over it when I’m dead.” Since then, he’s survived jungle treks, car crashes, and even an assassin — all with his trusty leather bag in tow.


Today, Dave leads Saddleback alongside his wife, Suzette, creating world-class products while giving back through their sister brand Love 41 and outreach initiatives in Rwanda, Mexico, and Texas. With partnerships including Toyota, the Texas Rangers, and Martin Guitar, Dave continues to build with purpose — using business as a vehicle to love people and lift communities.


In this episode, Philip and Dave Munson discuss: 

  • Building products you truly want
  • Prioritizing quality and durability
  • Focusing on community and clear teaching
  • Serving others and maintaining perspective


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Dave designs what he would personally use, like his first “Indiana Jones” style bag. Creating items you believe in ensures authenticity and attracts like-minded customers. Avoid making products you wouldn’t proudly give to family.
  • Inspired by Land Cruisers, Dave focuses on toughness and longevity, using full-grain leather instead of cheaper alternatives. Quality is measured by reliability, not cosmetics. Durable products earn trust and lasting customer loyalty.
  • A passionate customer community amplifies brand support, solving problems faster than customer service. Clear communication is key: if customers don’t understand, it’s the company’s responsibility to explain simply. Shared passion builds natural advocacy.
  • Success starts with family, generosity, and curiosity about differing opinions. Dave stresses outward-focused goals over money, aligning vision with meaningful impact. Experiences like travel and exposure to need reshape priorities and deepen commitment to service.


“Make stuff that you want for yourself, and then all you have to do is find people who are like you.” - Dave Munson


Connect with Dave Munson: 

Website: https://saddlebackleather.com, https://dcmunson.com/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/saddlebackLeather 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saddlebackleather/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/saddlebackbags/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Balancing Innovation and Reality in Energy10 Mar 202600:14:31

Phil Fornaro discusses the importance of maintaining perspective despite passion, using examples from his personal experiences and the show "Landman." He highlights the challenges of transitioning from oil to sustainable energy, noting the reliance on oil and gas due to historical choices. Phil emphasizes the need for balanced discussions on energy sources, including the environmental impact of technologies like ChatGPT. He also touches on the potential for battery recycling and the role of new AI advancements in energy efficiency. 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Mark Rampolla: Mastering Growth, Genius, And Freedom In Entrepreneurship04 Mar 202600:53:34

Mark Rampolla is a visionary entrepreneur, investor, speaker, and writer known for inspiring mission-driven leaders to build businesses that matter—and lives of real freedom.

As Co-Founder and Co-Managing Partner of GroundForce Capital, he helps bold founders scale purpose-driven companies that generate massive impact, including Liquid Death, Bobbie Baby Formula, Beyond Meat, Thrive Market, Vive Organics, and OWYN.  Previously, Mark founded ZICO Coconut Water, pioneering the multibillion-dollar coconut water category before selling to The Coca-Cola Company—and later, buying it back.

Over his career, Mark has invested in more than 100 companies, served on over 20 boards, raised over $1 billion in capital, and helped generate more than $5 billion in enterprise value and tens of thousands of jobs. A former Peace Corps volunteer and corporate executive, Mark blends Wall Street savvy with street-level soul.

He is the author of two books: High-Hanging Fruit, a memoir and manifesto on building mission-aligned businesses, and An Entrepreneur’s Guide to Freedom, a radical call to wake up from the myth of entrepreneurial freedom and discover what it truly means to be free—mentally, emotionally, financially, and spiritually.

Since losing his home in the 2025 Pacific Palisades fires, Mark has been wandering—but not every wanderer is lost. 


In this episode, Philip and Mark Rampolla discuss: 

  • Prioritize execution over ideas
  • Operate in the zone of genius
  • Embrace perspective and freedom
  • Manage energy and vulnerability


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Ideas alone are insufficient; success requires disciplined execution. Honestly assess whether the right person is handling each part of the plan. Bringing in others who excel in their roles strengthens overall outcomes.
  • Identify natural strengths and roles that align with them. Avoid forcing roles that don’t fit and let talent emerge where it belongs. This maximizes impact, satisfaction, and team effectiveness.
  • Reframe challenges as opportunities to unlock energy and creativity. Make conscious choices instead of rationalizations to gain autonomy. Aim to live in alignment, doing what matters with who matters, when it matters.
  • Regularly audit activities to reduce drains and increase energy-giving tasks. Allow space to feel emotions deeply, as vulnerability drives growth and healing. True fulfillment comes from alignment, not just wealth, status, or fame.


“Energy is our limiting resource, not time. If you can get out of things that are an energy drain and get more of what’s an energy up, you’ll be amazed at the productivity that happens.” - Mark Rampolla


Connect with Mark Rampolla:

Website: https://www.groundforcecapital.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marksrampolla/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Building Trust One Honest Conversation at a Time03 Mar 202600:16:11

Phil Fornaro discusses the importance of community and the value of local establishments. He emphasizes the significance of honesty in conversations, sharing a personal story about advising a friend, Jason, who appreciated the different perspective. Phil highlights the need for trust in giving and receiving advice, noting that small changes can lead to significant long-term impacts, akin to financial investments. He encourages listeners to try offering constructive feedback and to build trust through open communication.


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Ari Rastegar: Energy, Health, and Strategic Growth25 Feb 202601:00:02

Referred to by Forbes as “The Oracle of Austin,” Ari Rastegar built a multibillion-dollar real estate investment platform after starting with a $3,500 student loan while still in law school. After beginning his career as an attorney, he transitioned into full-time real estate investing and development and, in 2015, founded Rastegar Capital, a vertically integrated real estate investment and development firm. Today, he is widely recognized for combining disciplined capital allocation, operational execution, and resilience-driven leadership.


Rastegar Capital has acquired, developed, and managed more than five million square feet of property across 38 cities in 13 states and 7 asset classes. The firm surpassed $500 million in assets under management by 2017 and continues to operate a multibillion-dollar development and acquisition pipeline. Through his leadership, the company has scaled rapidly across the United States while maintaining a disciplined, long-term investment strategy.


Ari is the author of The Gift of Failure: Turn My Missteps Into Your Epic Success, a Wall Street Journal and USA Today bestseller, where he shares candid lessons from the setbacks and inflection points that shaped his career. He has been featured in long-form interviews and podcasts, including The School of Hard Knocks, discussing leadership under pressure, asymmetric investing, and how sophisticated investors approach risk, leverage, and opportunity. Beyond investing, Ari is active in biohacking, meditation, and performance optimization, and he engages an audience of more than 1,000,000 followers across social platforms with thoughtful, story-driven conversations on business, resilience, and personal growth.


In this episode, Philip and Ari Rastegar discuss: 

  • Energy and focus drive performance
  • Failure is data, not judgment
  • Systems and teams scale impact
  • Strategic vision guides investment and opportunity


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Structuring your day around high energy and intentional focus amplifies clarity and productivity. Meditation, practiced consistently, prepares you for action rather than just relaxation. Prioritizing health underpins both personal and professional effectiveness.
  • Treat every experiment and setback as an opportunity to reflect and refine. Iterative learning loops create exponential growth in business and personal development. Quality of reflection matters more than quantity of attempts.
  • Shared back-office operations free leaders to focus on high-value decisions. Delegating finance, tech, and investor reporting allows for sustainable growth. Strong teams outperform solo heroics and enable long-term scaling.
  • Follow population, job migration, and infrastructure trends for smart real estate decisions. Focus on adaptable structures, distressed markets, and co-investment to maximize returns. Combining long-term urban insight with technology and mentorship builds resilience.


“Once my health got better, my mentality got better, my body got better, I felt better, my relationships improved. And I’ll tell you, as a business person, the business went exponential in growth because I felt better.” - Ari Rastegar


Connect with Ari Rastegar: 

Website: https://rastegarcapital.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arirastegar/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Incremental Goals, Lasting Change24 Feb 202600:22:18

Phil Fornaro shares insights on failed resolutions, emphasizing incremental goal setting. He recommends the "One Line a Day" journal for reflecting on daily experiences. Phil also highlights the importance of financial planning, suggesting early tax strategy discussions with professionals. He advises on setting automatic deductions for IRAs and HSAs, and using AI tools like ChatGPT for efficiency. Phil encourages listeners to prioritize goals, maintain communication, and leverage Light Bulb Moments for personal growth. 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


John Rot: Building Success Through Mentors and Community20 Feb 202600:41:41

John Rot is a business, community, and charitable leader with a distinguished record of entrepreneurship and civic engagement. He began his career at Arthur Andersen, specializing in business valuations, before acquiring and growing Hortons of La Grange into what is now Hortons Home Lighting, expanding the brand to multiple locations and integrating Ace Hardware into the flagship store. In addition to building his own business, John has invested in and helped revitalize key local establishments, including the La Grange Theater, Q-BBQ, and The Hot Dog & Burger Co., leading a $2 million renovation of the historic theater. He has served on advisory boards within the lighting industry and for the Friends of the Lurie Cancer Center. He is a Founding Father and current President of The H Foundation. Recognized as Business Person of the Year by the Rotary Club of La Grange, John holds a Bachelor’s degree in Business Administration and Marketing and an MBA in Finance from the University of Illinois.


In this episode, Philip and John Rot discuss: 

  • Learning from mentors and knowing when to pivot
  • Balancing strategy with hard work and hands-on learning
  • Leading with passion and surrounding yourself with the right people
  • Giving back and building long-term relationships


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Strong mentors accelerate growth and shape pivotal decisions. When markets shift, leaders must be willing to adapt rather than cling to old models. Strategic pivots, made at the right time, can unlock entirely new opportunities.
  • Tactical planning matters, but experience is earned through action. Growth requires getting your hands dirty and learning through mistakes. Skills develop over time through persistence, relationships, and practical repetition.
  • Teams reflect the energy and conviction of their leaders. When passion is modeled and taught, it becomes contagious. Success multiplies when you surround yourself with knowledgeable, committed people.
  • Entrepreneurs carry a responsibility to invest in their communities. Genuine relationships built over time create unexpected returns and partnerships. Purpose-driven passion, combined with service, can scale impact far beyond initial expectations.


“If you're going to be an entrepreneur, or if you're going to own a business, challenges [should] motivate you and energize you, [instead of] scaring you and making you want to go up, hide in the corner.” - John Rot


Connect with John Rot: 

Website: https://www.hortonshome.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-rot-45ba396/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HortonsHomeLighting

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hortonshomelighting/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Charles Burke: Thinking Deeper in a Fast World18 Feb 202600:53:49

Charles Burke is President & CEO of Frederik Meijer Gardens & Sculpture Park—among the world’s premier art, culture, and horticulture destinations—in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Since 2023, he’s guided Meijer Gardens to unprecedented success, achieving the highest annual attendance in its 30-year history and welcoming its 16 millionth visitor. Under his direction, the organization was recognized as the Best Sculpture Park by USA Today’s 10Best Readers’ Choice Awards in 2023, 2024, and 2025, and was consecutively named among the Best Places to Work in West Michigan, solidifying its reputation as a cultural landmark of international acclaim. 


Charles brings his vision of accessibility, transparency, and creativity to every aspect of strategy, programming, and community engagement, with a hallmark commitment to making the arts, culture, and nature accessible to all. An active community leader, he serves on the Downtown Grand Rapids, Inc. Board of Advisors and contributes to cultural and civic initiatives. 


Charles previously served as President and CEO of The War Memorial in Grosse Pointe Farms, transforming the waterfront campus into a thriving arts, culture, and community engagement hub and redefining its mission, fostering regional impact through innovative programming and sustainable practices.


In key roles with the Detroit Symphony Orchestra, Charles championed the African American Fellowship program and Civic Youth Ensembles. He led over 300 performances as a conductor, collaborating with many legendary artists. His artistic leadership included 22 world premieres and commissions.


In this episode, Philip and Charles Burke discuss: 

  • Embracing depth in meaningful conversations
  • Finding clarity and creativity through nature
  • Seeking insight beyond your own industry
  • Using powerful tools without losing creativity


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Long-form discussions allow nuance and richer understanding. Audiences increasingly value thoughtful dialogue over short-form noise. Depth creates space for insight that quick content often cannot deliver.
  • Connecting with nature restores perspective and mental clarity. Simple acts like gardening can spark joy and deeper thinking. Stepping away from screens can unlock fresh creative energy.
  • Innovation often comes from listening to voices outside your field. Different industries can share surprising common ground and transferable lessons. Broadening your circle prevents stagnation and encourages novel ideas.
  • AI and emerging tools are no longer optional in modern business. Those who ignore them risk falling behind. The goal is not replacement but amplification of human creativity and insight.


“I think it's really imperative, especially for nonprofit organizations… to look at these ways of building efficiencies very quickly, to have greater impact and spend more of the dollar on mission.” - Charles Burke


Connect with Charles Burke: 

Website: https://www.meijergardens.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charles-burke-23981a10/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Reinvention in the Age of Artificial Intelligence17 Feb 202600:12:29

Phil discusses the potential for starting a business after age 50, emphasizing the benefits of having financial freedom and time due to children growing up. He highlights his own experiences with Light Bulb Moments and a new startup, OGC AI, leveraging artificial intelligence to advance the legal profession. Phil stresses the importance of continuous learning, citing his daily engagement with AI tools like ChatGPT and Perplexity. He also mentions the support from his motivated team and the community. 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Event: Brain Health Workshops and Finding Calm by OptWell13 Feb 202600:39:31

Brain Health Workshop for Healthcare Providers & Community Leaders


Increase understanding of brain health, biomarkers, early intervention, risk reduction, and resources so you can: promote brain-healthy lifestyle habits and behaviors, and make high-quality referrals to expert providers and community resources.


When: Thursday, March 19, 2026. 8:30 am-11:30 am

Where: Premier Catering, 6240 Joliet Rd, Countryside, IL

Who should attend: Community Health Workers, Primary Care Physicians, Other Physicians & Advanced Practice Providers, Behavioral Health Teams, Nonprofit Health & Aging Services Professionals, School Social Workers, Health/Physical Education Teachers, Providers in Chicago’s Western Suburbs


Learn more / RSVP by clicking on this link:

https://BrainHealthWorkshopMarch19.eventbrite.com


Find Your Calm: Tools to Reduce Stress, Beat Burnout, & Boost Mental Well-Being

When: Tuesday, February 24, 2026. 6:30 PM-8:00 PM

Where: Lyons Township High School South, 4900 Willow Springs Rd, Western Springs

 

Learn more by clicking on this link:

OptWell.org/events

Or email info@OptWell.Org

 

Connect with Philip:

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/

 

Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861.

 

You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Mohanbir Sawhney: When Mindfulness Meets Management in the Age of AI11 Feb 202600:54:55

Mohanbir Sawhney is the McCormick Foundation Professor of Technology and Clinical Professor of Marketing at the Kellogg School of Management, Northwestern University, and Director of the Center for Research in Technology & Innovation. A globally recognized authority on business innovation, digital marketing, product strategy, and AI, he has authored seven management books and more than 50 case studies, including The Sentient Enterprise, a Wall Street Journal bestseller. His work has appeared in Harvard Business Review, California Management Review, and Marketing Science, and he regularly contributes to Forbes, Fortune, and the Financial Times.

A pioneer in online executive education, Prof. Sawhney has created flagship programs such as Digital Marketing Strategies, Product Strategy, AI Strategies for Business Transformation, and the Kellogg Chief Product Officer Program, reaching over 36,000 executives in 120 countries. He advises Global 2000 companies and governments on innovation and digital transformation, with clients including Microsoft, Google, Salesforce, Adobe, Meta, SAP, Dell, Merck, and Vanguard. He holds a Ph.D. from the Wharton School, an MBA from IIM Calcutta, and a B.Tech. from IIT Delhi, and has received multiple teaching and alumni awards.


In this episode, Philip and co-host, Vera Gavrilovich, with guest Mohanbir Sawhney, discuss: 

  • Integrating values and mindfulness into professional life
  • Transforming leadership through humility and learning
  • Practicing mindful and human-led use of AI
  • Staying relevant through curiosity and continuous learning


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Mindfulness, values, and inner development belong in business and education because personal and professional life are inseparable. Performance is shaped by mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual wellness, not productivity alone. Organizations that acknowledge the whole human create healthier cultures and more sustainable results.
  • Lasting change comes from changing leaders and mindsets, not just tools, processes, or technology. The shift from “know-it-all” to “learn-it-all” leadership enables adaptability in fast-changing environments. Humility fuels growth, while arrogance blocks learning and innovation.
  • AI should augment human judgment, not replace thinking or dictate decisions. Leaders must remain in charge of AI workflows by defining purpose, questioning outputs, and applying discernment. The strongest outcomes come from complementarity: human empathy and wisdom paired with machine scale and speed.
  • Sustainable change is driven by small, consistent course corrections that compound over time. Because technology evolves faster than organizations can adapt, individuals must own their learning agenda. In an age flooded with answers, intellectual curiosity and asking better questions become the true advantage.


“In a world full of answers, what matters are the questions.” - Mohanbir Sawhney


Connect with Mohanbir Sawhney: 

Website: https://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/academics-research/faculty/sawhney_mohanbir/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohansawhney/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Connect with Vera Gavrilovich:

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/veragavrilovich  

Previous Episode: https://lbmpodcast.com/igniting-growth-through-energy-innovation-and-leadership-with-vera-gavrilovich/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Moving From Friction To Flow10 Feb 202600:17:31

Phil Fornaro discusses the concept of friction in daily life, emphasizing its negative impact on productivity and well-being. Phil highlights the importance of removing friction in work and personal relationships, citing examples like using AI for automation and reorganizing his podcast setup. He also mentions the benefits of adopting frictionless practices.


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


W. David Prescott: A Break Talking About the Brakeman06 Feb 202601:08:03

About W. David Prescott: W. David Prescott is a licensed geologist and environmental consultant with over 30 years of experience balancing environmental responsibility and economic growth. He holds a Master’s in Environmental Science, an MBA, and is pursuing a Ph.D. in Agricultural Science. His expertise spans groundwater protection, site remediation, and regulatory compliance across complex projects nationwide.

A firm believer in market-driven sustainability, Prescott advocates for capitalism and meritocracy as drivers of innovation and ecological progress. He serves on multiple boards, shaping policy at both the community and state levels. Through leadership and scholarship, Prescott demonstrates how environmental stewardship and economic vitality can thrive together.


In this episode, Philip and W. David Prescott discuss: 

  • Energy stability depends on reinvestment and restraint
  • Leadership is the true performance multiplier
  • Technology amplifies both productivity and division
  • The AI boom is an energy and security story


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Modern energy production requires constant capital, infrastructure, and policy consistency to offset natural decline curves. Political whiplash in energy policy creates uneven winners and losers while threatening long-term supply and high-skill jobs.
  • Whether in local government or national systems, outcomes are shaped more by leadership quality than ideology. Effective leaders unite teams, slow destructive swings, and act as “brakemen” amid polarized extremes.
  • Social media algorithms and AI systems can scale outrage or efficiency depending on intent and design. Human connection and thoughtful deployment determine whether technology fragments society or multiplies value.
  • Explosive AI growth is driving massive demand for natural gas, power infrastructure, and capital-intensive projects. Ideology-driven capital allocation risks weakening national security while more pragmatic competitors expand without restraint.


“How do we fight [online division]? We get off social. We have a conversation. When we break bread together… If they’re logical and wise and truly care, then you’re going to win. If they’re just a rage‑baiter and they just want to fight, you might not be able to make headway.” - W. David Prescott


Connect with W. David Prescott: 

Website: http://www.talonlpe.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/w-david-prescott-p-g-b1600714/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


Kevin Daisey: Designing Growth That Lasts04 Feb 202601:05:49

Kevin Daisey is the co-founder of Array Digital, with a legacy in the digital marketplace spanning over two decades. Kevin’s extensive experience in website design and digital marketing makes him a valuable strategic partner for law firms. He doesn’t just create digital presences; he develops online growth strategies that help law firms establish and lead in their respective fields.


Beyond his pivotal role at Array Digital, Kevin extends his commitment to the legal community as the host of The Managing Partners Podcast and Mastermind. Here, he engages with top legal professionals, sharing insights on innovative marketing strategies, leadership dynamics, and the nuances of business growth within the legal sector.


In this episode, Philip and Kevin Daisey discuss: 

  • Niching accelerates clarity and growth
  • Systems turn effort into scale
  • Relationships outperform tactics
  • Adaptation determines longevity


Lightbulb Moments:

  • Serving a clearly defined ideal client improves alignment, engagement, and marketing effectiveness across the organization.
  • Recurring revenue, disciplined financial frameworks, and operating systems enable sustainable growth beyond founder hustle.
  • Podcasting, brand, and trust-based connections compound value more reliably than transactional marketing alone.
  • AI adoption, operational separation, and building with an exit mindset position firms to thrive amid structural change.


“Build it like you’re going to sell it.” - Kevin Daisey


From Kevin: “Right now, we are letting law firms know that we now offer month-to-month contracts for SEO, AI Search, and digital marketing. To connect: Send me a DM on LinkedIn, or visit our website at https://arraydigital.com.” 


Connect with Kevin Daisey: 

Website: https://arraydigital.com 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevindaisey/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevindaisey/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kevinldaisey/ 


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Moments: Self-Awareness, Systems, and the Work in Between03 Feb 202600:20:55

Phil discusses his journey towards self-awareness, highlighting his past lack of self-awareness and the impact of starting his podcast. He explains how his litigation career honed his podcasting skills but hindered his ability to communicate succinctly. Phil shares his use of ChatGPT to structure his content, revealing his tendency to rush outcomes and the importance of focusing on the process. He emphasizes the need for positive energy in communication and the value of collaboration. Phil also touches on the evolution of his website and the importance of aligning content with his Outside General Counsel (OGC) model, aiming for a more organized and effective presentation.


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


LBM Flash Event: Soup & Bread 2026 with Terri Rivera30 Jan 202600:18:02

In this episode of LBM Flash Event, host Phil Fornaro sits down with Terri Rivera, Director of Philanthropy at BEDS Plus, to talk about the organization’s mission, growth, and one of the community’s most beloved fundraisers, the 14th Annual Soup & Bread Event. Terri shares how BEDS Plus has evolved from a church-based shelter model into a hotel-based transitional housing system serving nearly 6,000 people annually. They discuss why the Soup & Bread event sells out so quickly, how sponsors and volunteers make the impact possible, and the many ways the community can continue supporting neighbors experiencing homelessness, especially during the coldest months.


Event Details:

BEDS Plus 14th Annual Soup & Bread Fundraiser


Date:

Sunday, February 1, 2026

3:00 – 7:00 PM


Location:

Countryside Banquet & Conference Center

6200 Joliet Road

Countryside, IL


About the Event:

  • 25 different soups from local restaurants
  • Craft beer tastings
  • Live music performances
  • Family-friendly atmosphere (kids to grandparents welcome)
  • Roving magician
  • Raffle with 25+ items, including trips, experiences, and gift baskets
  • Community sponsors help ensure 90% of funds raised go directly to BEDS Plus programs


“I feel like my role as director of philanthropy is to connect people who care with causes that matter.” - Terri Rivera


Terri Rivera joined BEDS Plus in February 2024 after several years of service on the Fundraising Committee. She brings more than 25 years of experience in fundraising, board leadership, community engagement, and event planning, with previous roles as Director of Development at Alivio Medical Center and Executive Director of Back on My Feet, a homeless services organization. Terri holds a Master’s degree in Non-Profit Administration from North Park University, with a focus on Health Care Management, and is excited to help BEDS Plus grow through strategic vision and strong community connections.


Connect with Terri Rivera: 

Website: https://beds-plus.org/ 

Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/bedsplusorg/?_rdc=1&_rdr# 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bedsplusorg/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bedspluscare1181 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terririvera/ 

LinkedIn, Company: https://www.linkedin.com/company/beds-plus-care-inc/ 

Email: rivera@beds-plus.org 

Contact: 708-354-0858 or 708-887-8830


Connect with Philip: 

Website: https://www.fornarolaw.com/ 

Podcast Website: https://lbmpodcast.com/ 

"X": https://x.com/FornaroLaw 

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/philipfornaro/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fornarolaw3002 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fornarolaw/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FornaroLaw 

https://www.facebook.com/philip.fornaro.3/ 


Podcast Production by Turnkey Podcast. Thinking of starting a podcast? Get more info at https://turnkeypodcast.com/ or reach out to Doug Sandler directly at Doug@TurnkeyPodcast.com or call 410-340-6861. 


You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 


Horton’s Home Lighting

Lighting isn’t just about seeing – it’s about how a space feels.

Thoughtful design. Expert execution. Real impact.

https://www.hortonshome.com/


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