Topics

-The downsides of systems (longer feedback loop, fragile)

-Principles teach the why both implicitly and explicitly

-The use case for inverted offensive games to focus attention and intention

-Examples of teaching OZP and entry using constraints and incentives

We connect the common thread between both of our philosophies, talk 'Power' and 'play' culture

Topics:

-Naurato's quote about not matching lines and why dictating is better than reacting

-Getting out of your players' way as a coach

-Getting out of your way as a coach

-How mental weakness creates physical weakness

-What you think about is what you bring about

-A filter question to ask yourself before speaking to a player

Jesse Marsch Article: https://drewcarlsonhp.substack.com/p/one-coach-to-study?utm_source=publication-search

Topics:

-A quote from Michigan Hockey HC, Brandon Naurato to begin the discussion

-Dusty May's hypothetical question: Would you rather make it to the Final 4 10 years in a row and not win the championship or win in once and never go back again?

-It isn't working or it isn't working 'YET'

-How to know if you have a Power or Force Coach based on win percentage trajectory

-T.J. Manastersky's mental model or Smoothie vs. Steak for making changes to team play

Dusty May Podcast Link

Topics Discussed:

-The LA Kings best players speaking public on their lack of interest playing a system

-How not giving players self-determination principles of autonomy and relatedness can lead to division between coaches and players

-How the best forecheck is one the players want to do

-The Barry Sanders Razor: Assume players are closer to quitting on you than you think they are

(Article Link:https://drewcarlsonhp.substack.com/p/the-barry-sanders-razor)

Topics:

-Buffalo Sabres recent firing of Power Coach Granato for Force Coach Ruff

-Infinite vs. Finite Mindsets

-Letting 'The Process' Compound

-Fear and it's nature

-Chicago Steel, Detroit Red Wings, Tampa Bay Lightning, and other Infinite organization talk

@drewcarlsonhp on Twitter

@Mikhail Twitter

Topics Covered:

-Hunter Charneski's 'Personal Inventory' and it's application to coaching choices

-What is important and what is not and valuing those things

-How big rocks have longer feedback loops which is why we love focusing on the cookie bags (small things)

- Personal stories and tactics Mikhail has used in his current position

-Sam Hinkie, Simon Sinek, Greg Powers, Detroit Red Wings and the Infinite Game

Link to Hunter's Video Teaching on Personal Inventory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRtAgddvFOk

Catch Part 1 of this convo here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/02pMSzKTnyBPm62EKV6PK6

Topics Covered:

-Intro to Power Laws

-How they apply to players, coaches, and teams

-The Podcast Razor

-Insecurity vs. Security

-How 2 D1 coaches model this razor

Links:

Morey Pod: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7cSWAVJ5VehOBFrMrwGcjw

Power Laws: https://medium.com/@quantvc/power-laws-in-venture-capital-why-the-long-tail-matters-22e057c6fa34

Topics Discussed:

-Why certain industries attract certain archetypes

-Why coaching attracts the uncoachable even though every coach will say they are

-Pride vs. Humility

-What a displacement behavior is and why coaches should become aware of it

-Each player has a perceptual reality and you have to live in theirs, not yours as a leader

-Why "driving 100 miles and hour" as a coach creates problems addressing the 'real problems'

-Power Laws: Everyone says they are coachable but we can't all be... because the math doesn't math on that

Topics-

-Judging people on a page in their massive story book

-Learning regardless of 'liking' a person

-Antithesis Principle

-Mike Babcock Columbus situation takeaways you won't hear most places

-Coaches being self-promoting is seen as 'bad'

People to dive in on

-Shreyas Doshi

-George Mack

Article Referenced:

https://drewcarlsonhp.substack.com/p/a-thought-experiment-featuring-deion

Topics-

-Accountability Buddy System

-Extreme Ownership

-"You might not be the best coach for every player on your team." -Cody Royle

-Rule of 3: self, teammate, coach

-Simple systems to give you speed

Links:

Adam Davidson Tweet

Signaling Busyness Article by Drew and Mikhail

Topics:

-Range

-Best idea wins

-Avoiding silos

-Finding the next 'wheely suitcase' idea

Article: Red Queen in Hockey

Mikhail talks about his coaching philosophy

-Ownership

-Compete and Growth Mindsets

-Embodied Culture as a Leader

-Player relationships are more about ‘who you are’ not ‘what you do’

-Being available, making space for conversations to take place and acting on those affordances

-Organic vs. Forced Interactions w/ Players

Topics:

-Adapting year to year, or when to hold true and slightly iterate

-Deprogramming players, and disrupting causes disruption

-How Derek Lalonde used a tactic to improve player ownership

-Idea how to speed up feedback loops to iterate

Mark Bennett

Lalonde idea article

Right Idea, Wrong Place

In this episode, Mikhail and Drew speak about 3 razors:

1. The bragging razor

2. The surgeon's paradox

3. The humility razor

Article mentioned: https://drewcarlsonhp.substack.com/p/a-paradox-to-choose-better-people

George Mack Twitter: @george_mack

We bounce from topic to topic exploring 5 or 6 rabbit holes from:

-Infinite Players playing with the boundaries of talent acquisition

-Russian 5 came from being 'contrarian and right'

-What we miss when we go look to copy success

-Developing players by accident vs. intentionally

-Unofficial Pipeline speculation to keep players compounding their development

Mikhail and I speak on:

• Last to speak benefits
• Learning from anti-mentorship
• Assume the role of observer and break the 4th wall
• Triple down on what's 'you'
• How to find out what is you







Related Readings and Things Mentioned

Naurato Article from Sam Stockton

Art of Coaching

Oliver David Podcast

Mikhail and I speak on:

-How to increase your own thoughts by paradoxically decreasing inputs

-Blood stagnates, thoughts stagnate

-Coach as High Performer

-How to periodize your career for sustainability

-Figuring out your 'kill criteria as a Level 1 Coach

Some case studies and conversation topics include:

-Tampa's process with the infinite game

-Buffalo following a similar process with Granato and Adams

-The next teams to take that step

-The advantages of the infinite game

-Chicago Steel case study on coach promotion

Related Readings: https://drewcarlsonhp.substack.com/p/infinite-players-in-infinite-games

Article 2 by Mikhail: https://beyondtheglasshockey.com/2022/04/development-of-an-infinite-game.html

We riff on a presentation Mikhail saw at the AHCA convention in Naples.

Topics Include:

-being 'higher brained'

-energy/quantum dynamics "what you fear is what you get"

-'aligning the rooms'

Mikhail Article

Drew Article on Cooper Contrasting

Mikhail Twitter

Drew Twitter

Readings:

https://drewcarlsonhp.substack.com/p/4-lessons-from-sineks-coffee-cups

https://drewcarlsonhp.substack.com/p/the-5th-lesson-the-difference-between

Article: https://drewcarlsonhp.substack.com/p/the-5th-lesson-the-difference-between

Follow Mikhail on Twitter

Follow Drew

Topics:

-Tua talks about the 2 HCs he's played for and the differences between Power vs. Force Coaches

-Why knowing a player's mental training age is as important as the physical training age

-Different ideas and ways to unlock potential

-How to identify 'sleeping giant' players

Link to Tua video: https://youtube.com/shorts/6FozH5KXmn8?si=PWPI2C15jPtjVPjq

Show Notes:

READ FIRST

Article: Sinek's 4 Lessons

Drew Twitter

Mikhail Twitter

Topics Include:

-Dusty May's critical point with Michigan Basketball

-What button Joe Maddon pushed when taking over the Cubs

-When culture is really needed and what it's for

-Mike McDaniel: "I can't wait to go on our first 3-game losing streak"

-How a lack of range creates a smaller inventory of possible solutions

Articles: https://drewcarlsonhp.substack.com/p/in-powered-coach-dusty-may

https://coachingidaho.substack.com/p/takeaways-from-dusty-may?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5546921/2024/06/07/dusty-may-michigan-basketball-roster/

The Pivot Pod with McDaniel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yXxYQj5S0M

Topics Include:

-A quote on growth and fixed mindsets

-Everyone is always right because the truth is perceptual

-How environments limit or unlock players (ie. Josh Ho-Sang and Pierre-Luc Dubois)

-Looking at who players have played for and why there's edge there -How Anthony Noreen increases his confidence interval with his hiring process

Topics Discussed:

-Paradox of what we think matters to results (hard skills) and what actually matters to results (soft skills)

-Understanding where the critical point is within your team. Where you can exert the least amount of effort for the most change

-A personal story where ownership was identified as the critical point within a college hockey team

Topics Include:

-George Mack's Trust Spectrum

-The application of that to getting coaching jobs or not

-Trust and honesty in recruiting

-A thought to open source each GM's confidence interval for draft picks

-Random recruiting stories and other topics

Topics:

-The Henry Ford Razor

-With enough space, character reveals itself

-The difference between do-ing and be-ing

-Examples of Level 1 Coaches w/ high character: Warsofsky and Muse

-Being who you are is the best way to find your true fit

Article: https://drewcarlsonhp.substack.com/p/4-lessons-from-sineks-coffee-cups?utm_source=publication-search

Topics:

-Why 'what got you here won't get you there' is bad advice for a Level 1 Coach

-Ryan Warsofsky and Joe Mazzulla lean into 'personal edge'

-Why Level 1 Coaches should be 'perceptually' more attractive than central casting coaches but aren't

-Brian Kight's 10,80,10 principle and how it can give you an edge to fish in a different pond in recruiting people or players