Candid debate between Christians on empathy, truth, and love in politics and culture.

Is empathy being weaponized or is the church failing to show it? If you care about faith, culture, and hard conversations Christians are afraid to have, subscribe for more.

This is a respectful but pointed dialogue between believers wrestling with one central tension: should Christians lead with empathy, or has empathy become a Trojan horse that compromises truth and produces harmful policy?

I argue that modern Christianity has over-indexed on empathy at the expense of truth and biblical love leading Christians to validate lies, tolerate sin, and support destructive policies in areas like abortion, immigration, and gender ideology. Jonas pushes back, arguing that the church has failed to model godly empathy, leaving space for secular movements to claim moral authority and attract people who genuinely care about suffering and injustice.

Key Topics

• What “toxic empathy” is and how it shapes modern policy

• Empathy vs biblical love (grace + truth)

• Immigration, enforcement, and unintended harm

• Why empathy can lead to destructive laws

• Abortion, moral consistency, and unseen victims

• Free will, responsibility, and justice

• Tolerance vs love in Christian ethics

• When harsh language is appropriate — and when it crosses the line

• Jesus’ model: compassion without affirmation of sin

• Why many Christians justify voting for harmful platforms

• The church’s failure to lead with both conviction and care

Chapters

0:00 — Intro

1:10 — Introducing Jonas and framing the empathy debate

3:42 — Clarifying terms: what do we actually mean by empathy

5:22 — Empathy as feeling vs biblical love (grace + truth)

7:25 — Toxic empathy: validating lies, affirming sin, supporting bad policy

9:39 — Why empathetic people drift left politically

12:57 — Celebrating justice while ignoring human cost

15:02 — How empathy-driven policy creates harm

17:07 — Being harsh toward ideas vs demeaning people

19:47 — Gender ideology and the fear of speaking truth

22:52 — Abortion as a policy outcome of misplaced empathy

24:03 — Gender transitions, open borders, and emotional reasoning

26:47 — Two types of pro-life witness outside abortion clinics

31:04 — Why empathetic Christians feel politically homeless

32:16 — Christianity vs Republican identity

34:42 — Has the stereotype flipped

36:06 — Empathy as a Trojan horse in the church

38:49 — Algorithms, perception, and political extremes

39:46 — Why empathy is a cheap substitute for love

40:04 — Jesus’ model: compassion without affirmation

41:44 — Don’t lose truth in the name of empathy

42:15 — Weeping with those who weep even under judgment

44:02 — Humor, echo chambers, and loving people well

45:22 — Has the church been too passive with truth

46:09 — Final reflections: grace, truth, and courage

47:04 — Closing remarks

Candid debate between Christians: is it okay for Christians to vote Democrat? If you value this kind of content (faith, politics, and culture) — subscribe for more.

This is a respectful debate between believers, but does get very pointed (as it should). It centers on life of unborn, free will, and whether there are moral red lines that should disqualify a political party from a Christian’s support.

I argue that certain issues, especially the sanctity of life, are non-negotiable for Christians ... and the modern Democrat platform / agenda has crossed the line. Pat pushes back by emphasizing personal conscience, complexity, and the limits of enforcing moral beliefs while arguing the Democrat agenda has pros that outweigh the cons.

This episode is about clarifying convictions, exposing assumptions, and asking what faithfulness to Christ looks like in a divided culture.

Key Topics

• Should abortion be a voting disqualifier for Christians

• Personal conviction versus political enforcement

• Free will and moral responsibility

• Sanctity of life inside and outside the womb

• Whether moral beliefs should be imposed through law

• Party platforms versus individual conscience

• Comparing moral red lines across history

• Faith based voting in a two party system

Chapters00:00:00 The central question should Christians vote Democrat

00:01:10 Introducing Pat and setting the debate

00:03:05 Is abortion enough to disqualify a party

00:06:20 Personal belief versus public policy

00:09:10 Free will and the right to choose

00:12:45 Life in the womb and moral consistency

00:16:30 Should the law protect unborn life

00:20:10 Healthcare or moral harm

00:24:05 Adoption and support alternatives

00:28:40 Is there a red line for sanctity of life

00:33:10 Comparing abortion to other moral crises

00:38:20 Gun violence and moral calculus

00:43:55 Values versus policy disagreements

00:49:30 Party platforms and moral responsibility

00:54:10 Can Christians support imperfect systems

00:58:40 Final reflections on conscience and faith

01:03:00 Closing thoughts and takeaways

I thought I was doing great as a dad and husband — I was present, I provided, I cared deeply. But here’s the truth: I wasn’t actually leading my family well.

I brought vision, strategy, and energy into my work… but not into my home. That all changed when I discovered a different model for family leadership — one that’s been practiced for thousands of years but almost forgotten today.

This isn’t just about parenting. It’s about leadership. And it’s about the most important team you’ll ever lead: your family.

In this episode, I share 3 paradigm shifts that will change how you think about your role as a father and leader:

• Why the “nest” model of family is broken — and how to embrace the “team” model

• Why seeing your kids as “liabilities” robs them of identity — and how to raise them as valuable contributors

• Why fathers aren’t called to be passive babysitters — but visionary coaches who develop talent, build culture, and cast vision

You’ll walk away with practical steps to start leading your family with purpose and clarity.

👉 Learn how we help organizations build better leaders at cothryve.co — Leadership Development that actually works.

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I met the (former) U.S. President. On a plane. In coach. What he said to me, I'll never forget. The BIG IDEA: the best leaders are more concerned with being interestED than being interestING.

3 Lessons on what the most winsome leaders do to show genuine interest in and inspire others.

1) They ask real questions (and mean them)

2) They listen with their ****

3) They assume ******** has something to ***** them

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👉 Learn how we help organizations build better leaders at cothryve.co ... Leadership Development that actually works.

Dallas Clement is President & CFO at Cox Enterprises, a $23 Billion company with 50,000 employees.

In this episode, you'll learn:

→ the value of asking questions and putting yourself out there

→ why you should have an elevator pitch for your career (and what a good one sounds like)

→ what it looks like to find purpose in the journey and not just the destination.

At CoThryve, we help companies find, develop, and keep difference maker talent. Visit all pertinent links at: cothryve.co/links.

Blake shares some of his personal story you might not know about, and talks about why you should prioritize building assets outside your day job – with 3 examples.

Head to blakebozarth.com to get the Net Worth Newsletter + updates about free live sessions.

In this episode hosts, Blake Bozarth and Chad Pyke chat with Amanda Lannert, CEO of Jellyvision, a fascinating tech leader known for her charismatic leadership style and humble approach. They discuss the importance of confidence and the role of 'helpfulness' in building a strong network. Amanda shares her experiences, describing how she became the CEO unexpectedly and the importance of fostering an 'abundant mentality' within your team.
In this episode, you'll learn:
→ Why you should choose to be the CEO you wish you had
→ Confidence vs. Competence: which is more important?
→ Why it's not about what you know but what you can figure out
→ The art of building your network
At CoThryve, we help companies find, develop, and keep difference maker talent. Visit all pertinent links at: cothryve.co/links.

This is one of the craziest business stories you'll ever hear. Blake and Chad host Alan Barnhart, the CEO of Barnhart Crane.

Well over 30 years ago, Alan implemented a self-imposed, extremely conservative limitation on his own income – he's maintained this limitation while giving away millions in profits every year. 

Barnhart Crane went from a small mom and pop business to a $600M revenue company with nearly 2,000 employees. Last year alone, they gave away $35M to help people all over the globe.

In this episode, you'll learn:

→ The power of generosity and faith-driven leadership

→ What it looks like to be a "steward" as a business owner

→ Why PEOPLE are the real product and how to invest in life change as a leader in your organization

→ Why work is not just a necessary evil, and how to shift your team's thinking on the goodness of workAt CoThryve, we help companies find, develop, and keep difference maker talent.

Visit all pertinent links at: cothryve.co/links.

In this episode, hosts Blake Bozarth and Chad Pyke feature Devan Kline, co-founder and CEO of Burn Bootcamp.

Devan shares his life story from abandonment by his parents to running a company with 384 franchises. A key part of his approach involves a decision-making system that includes the '65 percent rule' to avoid analysis paralysis, envisioning two chairs to represent his franchisees and members when making major decisions, and a well-honed skill of asking questions. 

Devan elaborates on the importance of getting small wins during big changes, and the courage to trust and empower employees to build stronger teams. He teases future ambitions with the company, revealing the 'to the moon' theme inspired by Elon Musk.
00:16 Intro & Nuggets to look for
02:11 Interview with Devin Kline
02:31 Devin's Career Journey and Entrepreneurial Spirit
05:21 Devin's Decision Making Process
09:39 The Importance of Trust in Leadership
12:07 The Role of Questions in Decision Making
15:35 The Impact of Empowerment in Leadership
19:39 The Process of Making Big Decisions
23:58 The Importance of Small Wins in Change Management
39:33 Closing Thoughts and Future Goals

At CoThryve, we help companies find, develop, and keep difference maker talent. Visit all pertinent links at: cothryve.co/links.

We all know the importance of being "customer centric" ... so why is it so easy for people to lose sight of where the money changes hands and what can we do about it as leaders? 

Our featured guest is Barry Mainz, CEO of Forescout Technologies, a cyber security leader with over 1,000 employees.In this episode, you'll learn:

→ Why you can't manage your way to greatness but can HIRE your way to greatness

→ What pace of the change looks like and the skills necessary to flourish in today's world

→ Why the best leaders are not the smartest in the room – they're the best learners

→ How to navigate multiple generations in the workforce and considerations for leading Gen Z

→ Barry's journey from sales leader to CEO and the steps necessary to get there

At CoThryve, we help companies find, develop, and keep difference maker talent. Visit all pertinent links at: cothryve.co/links.

We all know that leaders are supposed to delegate. But let's be real. It's a lot easier said than done. Our FIRST repeat guest after 55 episodes is Charlie Bailes, senior exec at ABC Fine Wine & Spirits, an iconic family-owned brand.In this episode, you'll learn:

→ The difference between delegation and abdication 

→ How to give your team the clarity + trust they need to truly be empowered

→ Why it's crucial to repel the majority of job candidates

→ How to create multigenerational success in family business

At CoThryve, we help companies find, develop, and keep difference maker talent. Visit all pertinent links at: cothryve.co/links.

Companies often focus on hiring people instead of selecting talent. Blake & Chad host Dee Ann Turner, an incredibly former Chick-Fil-A executive and critically acclaimed author, speaker, and consultant to companies on hiring and developing great talent. In this episode you'll learn: → How to make the shift from hiring people to selecting talent. → How to turn your organization's culture into a talent magnet that attracts A players. → Why building great mentors and leaders is one of the biggest talent hacks companies miss. At CoThryve, we help companies find, develop, and keep difference maker talent. Visit all pertinent links at: cothryve.co/links.

FULL CONVERSATION on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnND1mjGUNw

Public schools aren’t “neutral.” Secular neutrality is a myth, and the more America removes the Christian root from public life, the more the flower withers (“CUT FLOWER SYNDROME”). Schools now disciple kids into a God-less moral system even when certain subjects might seem “neutral.”We also discuss why public school experiences vary wildly depending on where you live, when it might still work, and why homeschooling gives parents a chance to intentionally shape both community and worldview.

Key Topics

• Why “public school” means something different everywhere

• The myth of secular neutrality and why it doesn’t exist

• How America shifted from Christian roots to secular ethics

• Cut-Flower Christianity: enjoying Christian fruit without the root

• Why schools now define a new morality

• Why parents wouldn’t choose an Islamic school, but still choose a secular school

• The influence teachers + peers have on worldview

• Why homeschooling reshapes community and discipleship

Chapters

00:00:00 Can you steel-man sending kids to public school?

00:00:22 How public school looks totally different by location

00:00:56 When small-town schools still carried Christian influence

00:01:34 The myth of secular neutrality

00:02:19 How America moved from Christian ethics to secular morality

00:02:49 Cut-flower syndrome explained

00:03:16 Why some schools still look fine on the surface

00:03:38 When virtue gets redefined without God

00:04:04 Would you send your kids to an Islamic school?

00:04:33 How teachers shape kids’ belief systems

00:04:44 Why peer environment matters so much

00:04:53 Why homeschooling allows intentional community

So many people are coasting through life without purpose – not living on purpose, much less leading on purpose. Blake & Chad host Henry Kaestner, an incredibly successful entrepreneur who founded Bandwidth (now public) and later founded and leads Sovereign's Capital. 

Henry's also been one of the leading catalysts in the Faith Driven Entrepreneurship and Investing space. In this episode, where you'll learn:

→ Why being excellent in what you do is what gives you influence

→ How your faith system enables and drives excellence

→ How to build culture by sharing WHY you do what you do

At CoThryve, we help companies find, develop, and keep difference maker talent. Visit all pertinent links at: cothryve.co/links.

What's it mean to take "Radical Ownership" and how can you foster an ownership culture for your team? Blake & Chad break it down in this Jam Session, where you'll learn:

→ Why passivity kills your career and what it looks like to become the driver

→ What taking extreme responsibility looks like as a leader

→ Why Fault & Responsibility don't go together

→ How to help your team or mentee go from victim to victor mentality 

At CoThryve, we help companies find, develop, and keep difference maker talent. Visit all pertinent links at: cothryve.co/links.

Every coach and leader wants the most talented team. But "talent without chemistry results in chaos." Hosts Blake Bozarth and Chad Pyke are joined by college basketball legend Matt Doherty (now Executive Coach & Speaker) – a man who won a championship playing alongside Michael Jordan and coached at the highest levels. 

In this episode, you'll learn:

→ How to foster chemistry on your team and get the most out of the talent around you

→ Why you should approach your craft the same way MJ and Kobe did

→ How soft skills lead to hard cash

→ What a personal board of directors is and why you need one

At CoThryve, we help companies find, develop, and keep difference maker talent. Visit all pertinent links at: cothryve.co/links.

LOP is back ... and it's a Brand. New. Era. In this episode, Blake jams with new co-host, Chad Pyke on all things interview process. 

Get our 2 hottest takes for owning your next interview for that new leadership role, and if you're a hiring manager, 2 bonus tips for locking in the right hire for your team.

At CoThryve, we help companies find, develop, and keep difference maker talent. Visit all pertinent links at: cothryve.co/links.

When was the last time your team offered to take a 70% pay cut? In this episode, Issa Baluch shares an incredible personal story about how he and his company overcame crisis by making personal sacrifice and embracing what it means to be a team. Issa is a very successful entrepreneur and legend in the Logistics industry.

Issa shares his powerful journey of how moved from refugee from Africa to business tycoon in Dubai.

In this episode, you'll learn:

–> Why being a "self-made" leader is a myth

–> How crisis can set the stage for incredible growth

–> How to connect with anyone no matter their culture or background

–> Why knowing your team & their families is so important

Leadership On Purpose is hosted by Blake Bozarth, Founder & CEO of CoThryve

"Culture is not what you do. It's who you are." Our guest is Aaron Burke, businessman turned ministry leader and Founding Pastor of Radiant Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the US.

In this episode, you'll learn how to build a culture YOU want to be part of and what it looks like to create unity in your team.

Leadership On Purpose is hosted by Blake Bozarth, Founder & CEO of CoThryve

How do you help someone increase their Emotional Intelligence and develop more of a Growth Mindset? Our guest is Debbie Plager, Chief Talent Officer at HUB International.

As a self-described "Recovering Fixed-Mindsetter," Debbie is the quintessential coach for developing a Growth Mindset and building higher EQ.

Leadership On Purpose is hosted by Blake Bozarth, Founder & CEO of CoThryve

Sitting down with the legend of Bob Burg, author of The Go-Giver, a book that's reached millions of people. 

"Leading with value" is a term that gets thrown around a lot these days, but what does it really mean and how can you do it? Bob demystifies it and gives some hard-hitting insights for how to win the hearts and minds of the people around us.

Commitment vs. compliance. Push vs. Pull. Real authenticity. So many nuggets in this episode from a legend.

Leadership On Purpose is hosted by Blake Bozarth, Founder & CEO of CoThryve

Atypical episode. Blake shares a pretty cool and crazy personal story that happened to him last week at Chipotle of all places. 

As we enter 2022, how can we react with more grace, compassion, and generosity to those around us, even when we might feel like they don't deserve it?

Leadership On Purpose is hosted by Blake Bozarth, Founder & CEO of CoThryve

What's it mean to be relentlessly intentional? ... especially when it comes to your leadership and developing people? Christopher Lind, Chief Learning Officer and Founder of Learning Sharks talks about how to avoid the one-size-fits-all approach to development that so many companies fall into.

Christopher is a husband and dad to SIX kids – he passionately believes you should never have to compromise family for success in career.  In this episode, you'll learn:

–> What it looks like to be relentlessly intentionally in life and leadership  

–> Why a one-size-fits-all approach to leading and developing people does NOT fit all  

–> Where career-pathing discussions with your team go wrong and how to do them right  

–> Where the world's going with talent mobility platforms (leveraging the gig-economy inside your company)

–> How to connect people with opportunities inside the org to practice skills and explore interests (job-share, project-share, etc)

–> How to measure the success of the Learning & Development function

Leadership On Purpose is hosted by Blake Bozarth, Founder & CEO of CoThryve

In the wake of the Charlie Kirk tragedy, Christians everywhere are wrestling with one question: where were our pastors? In this episode, we unpack the silence, the tension, and the responsibility of Christian leaders who chose not to speak, and why that moment revealed a much deeper problem inside the modern church.

Johnny joins us to break down the video he made that gained major traction online. We talk through why he posted it, why many pastors refused to address what happened, and how their silence exposed a growing fracture between cultural Christianity and biblical courage.

From inconsistent responses to social issues to the rise of third way preaching to the dangers of a high grace and low truth church culture, this conversation cuts directly into the heart of shepherding, conviction, and the cost of speaking truth when it is not culturally approved.

We explore how believers should respond in moments of crisis, what true pastoring actually means, and why this generation of Christian men must recover boldness, discernment, and spiritual backbone.

This episode calls Christians toward courage, clarity, and uncompromising truth with high grace and high conviction.

Key Topics

• Why pastoral silence around Charlie Kirk exposed inconsistencies in the modern church

• The difference between cultural relevance and biblical courage

• How third way Christianity watered down truth for the sake of approval

• Why believers must learn to speak up in public even when unpopular

• Understanding true shepherding with high truth and high grace

• Calling out false narratives without falling into outrage culture

• The role of Christian men in holding leaders accountable

• Private discipleship compared to public truth telling

• How boldness spreads inside a community

• Why we fight for people but never compromise with lies

Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction and context

00:02:20 Why Johnny spoke up and why he normally would not

00:05:00 The silence of pastors saying we cannot talk about everything

00:08:15 Selective courage and why some topics get attention while others do not

00:11:00 When culture decides what the church will address

00:13:25 The third way problem with high grace and low truth

00:17:18 Comparing responses during the George Floyd moment with the Charlie Kirk moment

00:20:10 The danger of pastors who want to stay liked

00:23:00 What true shepherding looks like with scripture truth and courage

00:26:15 When silence becomes compromise

00:28:52 Fighting for the person not the lie

00:31:20 Private discipleship compared to public biblical clarity

00:34:10 The cost of conviction for families careers and reputations

00:36:42 Why boldness is spreading after Charlie’s death

00:38:30 Revival home churches and real community

00:41:00 A call for men to lead with courage and conviction

00:43:05 Final reflection and challenge

What if there was a book to inspire your kid's inner leader? Lexi turns the table on Blake and interviews him about his recently released kids book about leadership. 

Visit cothryve.co/kidsbook for free coloring pages and to pick up a copy. You can also simply search "I want to be a leader when I grow up" on Amazon and pick it up for cheap there.

Leadership On Purpose is hosted by Blake Bozarth, Founder & CEO of CoThryve

People don't become leaders without doing leadership. Gina Creek is Executive Director of the Leadership Institute at Advent Health. She explains how leadership gets romanticized and how to help others step UP and step IN to what leadership is really all about.

In this episode, you'll learn:

–> Why leadership is NOT the goal and should be a means, not an end

–> What the "Great Corporate Standoff" is all about and how to solve it

–> How to ask people questions that ignites their leadership journey

–> How to spot high potential leaders

–> What it looks like to create real world opportunities to grow and develop leaders in your organization

Leadership On Purpose is hosted by Blake Bozarth, Founder & CEO of CoThryve

"Everyone assumes Artificial Intelligence will take your job. That's wrong .. but someone who uses AI better than you, will take your job." Our guest is Alex Collmer, Founder & CEO of VidMob, a fast-growing company recently valued at nearly $300 million.

Alex is a successful entrepreneur who's as purpose-driven as they come. He shares insights on the advance of AI and how to lead in a people-first way.

In this episode, you'll learn:

–> Which sectors of the economy will be impacted the most and the quickest by AI

–> How leaders put PEOPLE in position to win in this new world of AI, automation, and machine learning

–> Why it's scary but healthy to chase the goal of removing your own job

–> How "Expanding Universe Theory" relates to employee growth and development

–> Why you should focus on serving every person you hire (they could be working anywhere, yet they choose to work with you)

Leadership On Purpose is hosted by Blake Bozarth, Founder & CEO of CoThryve

What does it look like to innovate inside a non-profit? How would a non-profit shift from fundraising to running as a fully self-sustaining operation? Brian Mosley, President of RightNow Media brings the wisdom in this episode.

RightNow Media has nearly 200 employees and has been described as the Netflix of ministry, and Brian clarifies where this parallel is accurate and where it falls apart.

In this episode, you'll learn:

–> What’s healthy about running a non-profit like a business with a viable revenue-producing product

–> Why deep focus on your core product / service leads to more significant innovation than chasing shiny tangents

–> How to foster a healthy dynamic between management and Board

–> How to ensure your people do NOT become casualties of the mission

Leadership On Purpose is hosted by Blake Bozarth, Founder & CEO of CoThryve

As leaders, we care about maximizing our time for the greatest impact. Jordan Raynor is a serial entrepreneur, best selling-author, and his work has been read and consumed by millions of people. 

Jordan's earned his "real-world PhD" in Time Management, and his latest book is Redeeming Your Time. 

In this episode, you'll learn:

–> 3 tangible ways to better protect your time so you can become significantly more productive

–> Why multitasking is the worst and how to be truly present in your work and relationships

–> How to say NO in a generous way so you can yes to the things that matter most

–> Why rest and ambition should go hand in hand

Leadership On Purpose is hosted by Blake Bozarth, Founder & CEO of CoThryve

We all know we're supposed to be real and vulnerable as a leader, but what's that really supposed to look like? Casey Graham is a successful entrepreneur, and his latest company is Gravy – a fast-growing payment recovery company that's on track to return $1B to their clients by 2023.

In this episode, you'll learn:

–> Why being real / vulnerable as a leader SHOULD look different depending on the context

–> What it means to be pre vs. post-broken. May have confidence, but they walk with a limp.

–> How pain can become baptized in Purpose

–> What Owner's intent is all about (Casey's is to build an organization where his adult children would want to work at if they chose to ... very powerful)

–> How to let someone else borrow your belief – when someone further along than you on your path, becomes a champion for you and believes in you

–> Why action creates traction + how thoughts and feelings are 2 sides of the same coin

Leadership On Purpose is hosted by Blake Bozarth, Founder & CEO of CoThryve

We have another legend of an entrepreneur on the show today in David Heinemeier Hansson, otherwise known as DHH. Our theme is leading with conviction and taking tough stands.

DHH is an incredibly successful tech entrepreneur (creator of Ruby On Rails and Co-Founder of Basecamp), and has an entirely unorthodox approach to business compared to his peers in the tech space ... and he's stuck out for doing it in sometimes controversial ways.

Earmuff warning: there's some language in this episode. If not listening with earbuds, use caution.

In this episode, you'll learn:

–> Why the tech monoculture is wrong about building a business

–> How to grow your influence by mastering a craft ("Competence breeds authority")

–> Why trite axioms are the worst and why leaders should avoid them

–> Why Basecamp places the exact salary figure in the job ad (and why they pay much more than average market rate)

–> What to consider in navigating the political climate at work

Leadership On Purpose is hosted by Blake Bozarth, Founder & CEO of CoThryve

In this episode, you're going to hear from a legend – Garry Ridge is the renown Chairman and CEO of WD-40. His accent is Australian, his wit is sharp, and his wisdom is plentiful. 

Garry has led the way fostering a culture at WD-40 that is truly special, and the results to the bottom line for this worldwide brand are unmistakable. The WD-40 company has gone from $350M market cap to $3.5B under Garry's leadership. 

Garry's a practitioner of the leadership concepts you hear about on podcasts and read about in books. He's good friends with Ken Blanchard, Simon Sinek, and he's an influencer in his own right ... but what's special with Garry is the way he's bringing these concepts to LIFE in the real world with an iconic brand and company the size of WD-40. In this episode, you'll learn:

–> How to give people permission to fail ... what Garry calls, "Learning Moments"

–> Who Al, the soul-sucking CEO, is and how to take him down

–> Why WD-40 uses the term "Tribe" for their team and how to build a tribe of your own

–> How to lead a return to work post-pandemic by letting empathy eat ego

–> How your leadership in a private enterprise affects the very fabric of society

Leadership On Purpose is hosted by Blake Bozarth, Founder & CEO of CoThryve

Win the morning, win the day. Our guest in Glenn Lundy – he's one of the more inspiring voices you'll come across these days, and he's bringing a few tangible steps to succeed in your morning routine. In this episode, you'll get 5 tangible steps to winning the morning and learn:

–> How the snooze button messes with your energy level the whole day

–> Why your phone is your worst enemy in the morning

–> What you should do in the morning to set yourself up for success

Leadership On Purpose is hosted by Blake Bozarth, Founder & CEO of CoThryve

Can strategic perspective be developed and how do you go about doing it?

Our guest is Cissy Williams, Chief Customer Officer at Protective Life, a multi-billion dollar insurance company headquartered in Birmingham, Alabama. Cissy has an inspiring career story and is the perfect person to share insights on how to develop strategic perspective. In this episode, you'll learn:

–> Why breadth of experience and exposure is key to strategic perspective + career growth

–> How to pursue opportunities to develop key relationships across the enterprise

–> Why you should look at your career like a lattice vs. a ladder (valuing lateral moves)

–> When senior leaders should tap talent for new opportunities

–> How to elevate the strategic mindset of your team

Leadership On Purpose is hosted by Blake Bozarth, Founder & CEO of CoThryve

In the wake of the Charlie Kirk moment, everyday believers are stepping up online, at city halls, in men’s groups, and at home. This show exists to equip Christians with Clarity + Courage.

In this episode of Leadership on Purpose, we map 12 practical responses we’re seeing from Christians right now how to speak in the public square, organize locally, disciple the next generation, and push back on false narratives with high truth and high grace.

I’m joined by Timmy Bauer (author & entrepreneur) and Pastor Kenny Ortiz to unpack the cultural shifts we’re living through. We talk courage, conviction, and leadership and how to live your faith in the open when the costs are real.

Key Topics:

• Speaking up in the public square (online + in person) and why courage is contagious

• Local organization that actually changes things (school boards, councils, candidates)

• Discipleship in practice: youth mentorship, men’s groups, and high-bandwidth conversations

• What we’re for: supporting pro-family ministries and leading your family with vision

• Engaging false narratives with high truth & high grace (and why pastors must not go silent)

• Forming convictions: study history & civics, return to Scripture, and build a life of prayer

Chapters:

00:00:00 – Introduction & Cultural Context

00:00:32 – #12 Speak Up in the Public Square (online + offline; courage is contagious)

00:06:15 – #11 Organize Locally (back courageous leaders; think macro, invest micro)

00:08:00 – #10 Disciple the Next Gen (home as hospitality hub; men’s groups that meet weekly)

00:12:43 – #9 Support Pro-Family Ministries (PRCs, marriage ministries, wraparound care)

00:16:19 – #8 Take Keyboard Warriors Offline (raise bandwidth: text → voice → coffee)

00:18:47 – #7 Engage False Narratives (high truth + high grace; 2 Cor. 10:5)

00:24:34 – #6 Study History & Civics (Hillsdale/PragerU; Hosea 4:6; Prov. 18:15)

00:26:40 – #5 Encourage the Courageous (amplify, support, don’t distance in hostile spaces)

00:28:41 – #4 Lead Your Family with Vision (education, speech & debate, wise young marriage)

00:33:54 – #3 Find a Whole-Bible Teaching Church (gospel + its implications; stop playing safe)

00:36:18 – #2 Return to the Word (physical Bible; model it for your kids)

00:38:38 – #1 Pray (Lord’s Prayer rhythm; Psalm 46:10; pray without ceasing)

00:41:27 – Final Encouragement & Call to Courage

00:42:40 – Outro

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