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Find a Way: Patrick Nugent on Resilience, Recovery, and Purpose17 Aug 202601:02:38

Patrick Nugent spent much of his life drawn to physical challenges. He grew up playing football, hockey, and lacrosse, played football at The Citadel, became its regimental commander, and ultimately achieved his goal of becoming a Marine infantry officer.

Then, during a live-fire training exercise in Hawaii, Patrick was struck by a bullet and sustained life-changing injuries. At 26 years old, he was confronted with an uncertain prognosis, a long recovery at Walter Reed, and eventually the realization that the Marine Corps career he had envisioned was coming to an end. 

Patrick shares how he learned to break an overwhelming recovery into measurable steps, including a first mile that took 48 minutes, and how returning to sport eventually led him to the Invictus Games, where he earned a bronze medal in powerlifting and was selected to captain Team USA. For Patrick, that experience restored something bigger than athletic ability: the belief that he could still lead and contribute after leaving the uniform. 

We also break down Patrick’s G.R.I.T. framework for responding to adversity:

  • Grow your grit
  • Regulate your response
  • Insist on finishing
  • Turn pain into service


Throughout the conversation, Patrick returns to one simple phrase that carried him through some of his hardest moments: Find a way.

Key takeaway: Resilience is not only something we discover after adversity arrives. It can be built beforehand through difficult experiences, deliberate action, reflection, and learning to focus on the next controllable step. 

Learn more about Patrick's story at https://www.patrickdnugent.com

Chapters

00:00 — Patrick Nugent: Find a Way

01:03 — Growing Up Through Sports, Teamwork, and Service

06:07 — Leaving Football to Pursue the Marine Corps

09:06 — Leading the Corps of Cadets at The Citadel

11:55 — Leadership by Example

13:59 — Becoming a Marine Infantry Officer

16:25 — Deployment, Hawaii, and the Live-Fire Exercise

18:47 — The Gunshot That Changed Everything

21:09 — “I Have to Be Stronger”

23:33 — The Prognosis and the Journey to Walter Reed

27:41 — Beginning the Long Road to Recovery

33:33 — Measuring Progress: The 48-Minute Mile

38:24 — The Failed Surgery and Losing the Future He Expected

42:40 — Rediscovering Purpose Through the Invictus Games

44:42 — Becoming Captain of Team USA

46:35 — The G.R.I.T. Framework

51:13 — Regulating Your Response When Adversity Hits

56:45 — Turning Pain Into Service

1:01:15 — Patrick’s Definition of Resilience

Moving Forward Without Moving On: Amber Sax on Grief, Empathy, and Honoring Those We’ve Lost03 Aug 202601:04:05

Content note: The conversation deals directly with death, military aviation loss, grief, and the long process of healing that follows. It is a heavy discussion, but it is also one about love, resilience, empathy, service, advocacy, and learning how to move forward while continuing to honor those we have lost.

On June 8, 2022, Swift 1-1, an MV-22B Osprey, crashed in eastern California following a mechanical failure, taking the lives of five United States Marines. In this episode, Bubba sits down with Amber Sax, Gold Star widow of Captain John Sax and founder of the Capt Sax Foundation, to remember John as a husband, father, Marine, and lifelong aviator.

Amber shares the ripple effects of a military aviation mishap, including the impact on surviving families, squadron members, first responders, and the aviators who must continue flying. She also reflects on the importance of giving people permission to grieve, releasing guilt without releasing love, and understanding that moving forward does not mean forgetting.

The conversation concludes with Amber’s work through the Capt Sax Foundation, which provides scholarships to aspiring pilots, maintainers, engineers, air traffic controllers, transitioning service members, and others pursuing careers in aviation. The foundation has awarded more than $80,000 in scholarships and hopes to surpass $100,000 this year. Amber personally covers its operating expenses so that every donated dollar can go directly to scholarship recipients.

Learn more about the Capt Sax Foundation or make a donation:
CaptSaxFoundation.org


Key takeaway: One of the most meaningful ways we can honor those we have lost is by living fully, serving others, and carrying their legacy forward.

Chapters

00:00 — A Different Kind of Conversation
A content note on military loss, grief, aviation mishaps, and healing.

02:40 — Meet Amber Sax

03:10 — How Amber and John Met

04:59 — John’s Lifelong Dream of Flying

09:35 — The Husband, Father, and Marine Behind the Pilot

12:28 — Life Before and After Swift 1-1

16:56 — Remembering More Than the Final Moment

22:13 — The Ripple Effects of an Aviation Mishap

31:56 — Moving Forward Without Moving On

35:46 — Finding Support in the Gold Star Community

40:13 — Resilience, Empathy, and Permission to Heal

44:22 — Building the Capt Sax Foundation

51:41 — Advocacy and Learning to Use Your Voice

1:00:21 — Leading with Empathy

1:01:43 — How to Support the Capt Sax Foundation

Bring Who You Are to the Table: Service, Transition, and Purpose with Isaac Seals20 Jul 202601:02:07

In this episode of Lead with Bubba Scott, I sit down with my good friend and Naval Academy classmate Isaac Seals, a former Marine officer whose career took him from leading Assault Amphibian Marines, to the Silent Drill Platoon, to serving as a White House Social Aide.

We talk about Isaac’s upbringing in Decatur, Georgia, his path to the Naval Academy, walking onto the Division I track team, and the legendary videos he made with classmates that became part of Academy lore. Isaac also shares his unique path to becoming a Marine officer, lessons from leading Marines, stories from 8th & I and the White House, and what it has meant to build a meaningful life after service.

This is a fun, honest, and insightful conversation about identity, transition, purpose, service, teamwork, and why leaders should never forget to bring who they are to the table.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction
01:03 Welcome to Isaac Seals
01:35 Growing Up in Decatur, Georgia
03:17 African Wild Dogs and Lessons in Teamwork
04:05 Family, Expectations, and Getting to College
06:39 Naval Academy, NAPS, and Division I Athletics
08:06 Getting Cut from Lacrosse and Walking Onto Track
11:33 How the Track Team Changed His Life
14:28 Going from “The Guy” to Finding a New Role
17:40 Viral Academy Videos and Creative Outlets
21:06 Why Isaac Chose the Marine Corps
22:58 His Grandfather’s Final Wish and a Complicated Decision
24:48 The Challenge to Earn Marine Corps
28:11 The Marine Corps Board
29:50 Service Selection and Becoming a Marine
32:01 Assault Amphibian Officer and Leading AAV Marines
35:59 A Hard Leadership Lesson as a Young Officer
42:31 Silent Drill Platoon and “Remember What You Represent”
44:50 White House Social Aide
46:18 Stories from the White House
48:44 Transitioning Out of the Marine Corps
52:23 Finding Purpose After Service
57:34 Advice for Navigating Transition
01:00:10 Bring Who You Are to the Table
01:01:12 Closing Reflections
01:01:38 Outro

011 - Leading in Law with Colonel Kyle Phillips, USMC06 Jul 202601:04:58

In this episode of Lead with Bubba Scott, I sit down with Colonel Kyle Phillips, an active duty Marine officer whose career has spanned the infantry, law, command, teaching, national security work, and military justice.

We talk about his early lessons in leadership, his transition from infantry officer to Marine lawyer, advising commanders in Iraq and Afghanistan, working national security cases at the Department of Justice, and leading Marines and civilians in command.

Kyle also shares lessons from endurance sports, command philosophy, accountability, and why leadership by example is necessary, but not sufficient.

This is a great conversation about judgment, service, responsibility, standards, and leading in law.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer
01:09 Welcome to Colonel Kyle Phillips
01:48 Growing Up on the Jersey Shore
05:28 Villanova, NROTC, and the Path to the Marine Corps
08:17 Becoming an Infantry Officer
09:46 Leadership by Example Is Necessary, but Not Sufficient
12:26 Transitioning from Infantry to Law
16:04 Deploying as a Marine Lawyer
19:34 Advising Commanders in Iraq and Afghanistan
23:00 Rules of Engagement and Preparing Marines to Make Decisions
26:48 Department of Justice and National Security Law
30:05 Confidence, Competence, and Self-Study
32:40 Teaching Leadership at the Naval Academy
37:55 Command Philosophy: Proud Professionals, Mission Focused, Inspire Others
43:38 Second Command Philosophy: Support Each Other, Support Warfighting, Support the Mission
47:38 Endurance Sports, Discipline, and the Group Effect
53:49 Last Man Standing and the Power of a Support Team
55:29 Accountability and Advice to His Younger Self
58:36 Personal Accountability in Adventure Racing
01:01:27 The Marine Corps Leadership Traits
01:03:22 Closing Reflections
01:04:18 Outro

010 - Lean with Dr. Jim Womack, PhD.22 Jun 202601:01:53

In this episode of Lead with Bubba Scott, I sit down with Dr. Jim Womack, one of the most influential voices in modern manufacturing, management, and Lean Thinking. Dr. Womack is the founder of the Lean Enterprise Institute and helped translate the Toyota Production System into what the world now knows as Lean. We talk about his early curiosity, what he learned from studying General Motors and Toyota, and why Lean is much more than tools, buzzwords, or cost-cutting.

This conversation is really about leadership: how leaders see work, define value, support people, and build better systems. Dr. Womack explains the importance of Gemba, going to the place where value is created, and why leaders need to ask better questions, show respect for the people doing the work, and focus on solving problems at the source.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction

00:50 Dr. Jim Womack’s Early Curiosity and Background

05:01 From India to Japan: Seeing Systems Differently

07:56 General Motors, the Cadillac Plant, and the Problem with Modern Management

15:03 Studying Toyota and Translating Lean for the West

22:50 The Machine That Changed the World and the Core Ideas of Lean

33:40 Gemba: Going to Where Value Is Created

38:21 Kaizen on Top of Chaos Is Chaos

44:09 From Answer Man to Question Man: Leadership Through Better Questions

55:25 Final Advice: Start with the Work

009 - Be Trainable with Shane Mitchell08 Jun 202600:55:43
Shane Mitchell on Reputation, Rugby, and the Veteran Transition

In this episode of Lead with Bubba Scott, Bubba sits down with Shane Mitchell, a Navy veteran and Northeast Regional Customer Support Manager at Makino.

Shane shares his journey from growing up in a military family to serving as an enlisted aviation maintainer in the Navy, where he worked on helicopters and F/A-18s. He reflects on the importance of reputation, technical competence, mentorship, and making the most of every assignment.

Bubba and Shane also discuss rugby, the lessons of teamwork and accountability, and how those lessons carried into Shane’s military service and civilian career. The conversation closes with Shane’s advice for veterans transitioning out of the military: understand your value, stay humble, and find work that gives you a sense of purpose.

This episode is about service, humility, mentorship, and finding your next team after the military.

Go to theVAlender.com to learn more about the show's new sponsor!

Chapter list:

00:00 Welcome, Sponsor Announcement, and Episode Preview

02:01 Growing Up in a Military Family

04:57 A Father’s Service and the Call to Serve

07:25 From College to the Navy

10:43 Starting Out in Navy Aviation Maintenance

13:05 Earning the Opportunity to Work on F/A-18s

18:01 Bloom Where You’re Planted

19:38 Reputation Is All You Have

22:15 Rugby, Teamwork, and the Next-Man-Up Mentality

31:33 Leaving the Navy and Finding the Next Team

36:15 Building a Civilian Career at Makino

42:18 Advice for Veterans Entering Industry

45:00 Confidence, Humility, and Starting Over

48:57 Be Trainable: The Leadership Trait That Matters

51:02 American Manufacturing and Veteran Opportunity

53:38 Final Reflections and Closing

008 - Betting on Yourself: Leaving Wall Street to Build Goldholly with Andrew Little26 May 202601:00:35

In this episode of Lead with Bubba Scott, I sit down with Andrew Little, co-founder of Goldholly, to talk about leaving finance, building a purpose-driven startup, and introducing people to yaupon holly, the only naturally caffeinated plant native to North America.

We discuss entrepreneurship, sustainability, small-team leadership, and what it means to bet on yourself.

Where to find Goldholly:
Website: goldholly.com
Social: @drinkgoldholly

Chapters

00:00 Introduction
01:02 Andrew’s Upbringing and New England Roots
03:02 Brown, Baseball Stats, and the Path Toward Finance
04:42 First Lessons in the Corporate World
06:13 Mentorship, Feedback, and Professional Growth
07:58 Finding Purpose Through Sustainability Finance
10:41 Leaving Finance and Searching for Tangible Impact
13:25 Career Change, Identity, and Betting on Yourself
16:42 The Origin Story of Goldholly
18:32 Discovering Yaupon Holly
20:07 The History and Sustainability of Yaupon
21:55 Sustainability as Good Business
24:10 Health and Better Caffeine Options
26:38 From Board Games to Building a Beverage Company
28:13 Product Benefits, Theocrine, and American-Grown Supply Chains
30:41 Bootstrapping, E-Commerce, and Educating the Market
33:02 Marketing Goldholly and Finding Product-Market Fit
36:26 Evangelizing the Product as a Founder
38:12 Running Ad Campaigns on a Startup Budget
40:07 Testing Messaging and Learning What Works
42:08 Building an Honest Marketing Funnel
45:07 Peer Leadership on a Team of Three Co-Founders
47:05 Strengths, Roles, and Wearing All Hats
49:35 Trust, Passion, and Small Team Leadership
53:22 Letting Go of Identity and Self-Doubt
56:52 The Leadership Trait Founders Need Most
58:07 Where to Find Goldholly
59:35 Closing Reflections

007 - Building a Championship Culture with Gilly Lane11 May 202601:03:05

Gilly Lane, head coach of Penn Men’s Squash, joins Lead with Bubba Scott to discuss his journey from Penn standout to professional player to national championship-winning coach. Gilly shares how his parents shaped his competitive mindset, why failure taught him more than winning, and how he builds tough, selfless, player-led teams. The conversation explores elite performance, recruiting for character, leading international athletes, and why responding to adversity calmly and confidently is one of the most important traits a young leader can develop.

00:00 Introduction

07:07 Early Life and Introduction to Squash

12:06 The Challenges of Individual Sports

19:06 Transitioning to Elite Performance

25:50 Lessons from Adversity and Competition

30:59 Coaching Philosophy and Character Development

32:41 Building a Strong Mindset

35:54 The Power of Belief in Teams

37:12 Recruiting Future Leaders

40:33 Leadership Styles and Adaptability

52:25 Coaching During Matches

56:49 Embracing Cultural Differences in Team Dynamics

01:00:15 Responding to Adversity as a Leader

006 - Helping Students Find their Voice with John Nagler23 Mar 202600:59:16

John Nagler, a high school history teacher and department chair, discusses his journey from a teaching internship at a boarding school to becoming a leader in the classroom.

They explore what it means to go beyond teaching content and instead develop students into confident, independent thinkers. John shares his approach to building a “democratized classroom” where student voice, discussion, and writing take center stage.

The conversation also covers mentorship, leadership among peers, the challenges of technology in education, and how great teachers help students grow long after they leave the classroom.

Check out GritBakery.com as discussed in the show for fantastic baked goods in Charleston, SC.

 

Chapters

 

00:00 Introduction to John Nagler

01:12 Early Influences and Background

03:52 The Groton Experience

07:09 Transition to Brown University

09:56 Teaching Journey Begins at Groton

16:37 Teaching Philosophy and Classroom Dynamics

25:30 The Harkness Method and Student Engagement

26:47 Empowering Student Voices Through Writing

29:56 The Importance of Rigor and Integrity in Teaching

32:07 Navigating Technology and Distractions in the Classroom

38:03 Leadership Dynamics in Educational Settings

41:27 Establishing Clear Expectations and Standards

51:20 The Role of Humor in Leadership and Teaching

57:05 Introduction to Lead with Bubba Scott

57:06 Engagement with the Audience

005 - Leading in the ER with Dr. Kevin Sullivan09 Mar 202600:48:54

 In this episode, ER physician and former Navy doctor Kevin Sullivan shares insights on leadership, decision-making under pressure, and managing chaos in high-stakes environments. We explore the parallels between military and medical leadership, the importance of humility, competence, and empathy, and practical strategies for thriving in chaotic settings.

 

Chapters

 

00:00 Chaotic ER Stories

04:02 Early Life and Influences

06:59 Path to Medicine and Mentorship

09:09 Motivation and Discipline in Medical Studies

10:37 Military Service and Medical Career

14:22 Leadership in Medicine and Military

19:44 A Day in the Life of an ER Doctor

23:36 Cognitive Offloading in High-Stress Environments

27:06 The Importance of Team Trust and Competence

30:22 Leadership Challenges in Emergency Situations

33:53 Debriefing and Continuous Improvement in the ER

37:43 Managing Emotional Toll in Emergency Medicine

43:38 Lessons from Medicine and Military Leadership

46:51 Engagement with the Audience

004 - The Principles Behind the Rules: Dr. Kevin Mullaney09 Feb 202601:01:19

In this episode of Lead with Bubba Scott, I sit down with Dr. Kevin Mullaney, a retired U.S. Navy Captain, Industrial and Organizational psychologist, and executive coach, to explore leadership in high-stakes environments.

Kevin shares his journey from growing up in an Army family to serving as a nuclear submarine officer, and how those experiences shaped his understanding of accountability, ethics, and leadership development. We discuss why great leaders focus on the principles behind the rules, how ownership and competence drive trust, and why personality, self-awareness, and curiosity matter more than most leaders realize.

Drawing from his work in the Navy, academia, and executive coaching at Harvard Business School, Kevin introduces the Know-Do-Be model and challenges leaders to think more deeply about character, responsibility, and what it truly means to lead humans, not just organizations.

Chapters

00:00 From Army Brat to Navy Submarine Officer
01:15 The Principle Behind the Rules
03:40 Leadership in the Submarine Force
06:29 The Role of the Executive Officer
08:29 Navigating Accountability and Relationships
10:59 Transitioning to Academia and Teaching Leadership
13:28 Understanding Personality in Leadership
15:57 The Impact of Experience on Leadership Philosophy
26:57 Leadership, Discipline, and Punishment
31:03 The Importance of Curiosity in Leadership
33:20 Measuring Leadership Competencies Over Time
40:11 The Know-Do-Be Model of Leadership
43:43 Coaching Leaders at Harvard Business School
47:38 The Case for Ethical Leadership
55:10 The Value of Ownership in Leadership

003 - Authentic Leadership with LCDR Andrea Howard, USN26 Jan 202600:58:29

"Lead with Authenticity"

In this conversation, Lieutenant Commander Andrea Howard shares her journey from growing up in Norcross, Georgia, to becoming a Naval Submarine Officer and pursuing a PhD at MIT. She discusses the importance of authenticity in leadership, her experiences in diverse environments, and the value of mentorship and higher education in the military. Andrea emphasizes the significance of building trust and camaraderie among sailors, maintaining morale in high-pressure situations, and the need for a diverse and inclusive military force.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction

02:27 Growing Up in Norcross: Embracing Diversity

05:11 The Path to the Naval Academy: A Curious Journey

09:03 Academic Pursuits: Merging Language and Leadership

10:49 Studying Abroad: Insights from the UK Experience

15:34 Life Underwater: The Submarine Experience

16:11 Building Trust: Leadership in the Submarine Community

23:33 Navigating Morale: Traditions and Team Spirit

30:00 Maintaining Morale in Leadership

31:29 Creating a Positive Command Culture

33:59 The Power of Affirmation and Recognition

35:38 Feedback and Authenticity in Leadership

37:56 The Journey of Personal Growth

43:03 Mentorship and Leadership in the Military

46:44 The Importance of Higher Education for Officers

57:53 Introduction to Lead with Bubba Scott

57:54 Exploring Key Themes in Leadership

002 - Councilman Zac Blanchard of the Baltimore City Council12 Jan 202600:59:32

In this episode, Zac Blanchard shares his journey from Louisiana to the Naval Academy and his subsequent career in local government as a city councilman in Baltimore. He discusses the importance of community engagement, the importance of education, and the significance of local government in addressing everyday issues. Zac emphasizes the need for affordable housing and shares insights from his campaign and legislative efforts, highlighting the importance of listening to constituents and adapting plans accordingly. He also reflects on leadership lessons learned throughout his journey and his vision for a better Baltimore.

For more on Councilman Blanchard's work for the City of Baltimore, visit: https://www.zacblanchardd11.com/

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

02:35 Journey to the Naval Academy

03:38 Leadership Lessons from the Naval Academy

04:50 Teaching

07:03 Higher Education and Global Perspectives

09:39 Transitioning to Baltimore

11:34 Community Engagement and Local Politics

13:26 Running for City Council

15:34 Campaign Strategies and Challenges

31:21 Navigating Political Campaigns

37:42 Legislative Achievements and Housing Initiatives

48:27 Public Engagement and Community Feedback

53:14 Leadership Lessons and Future Aspirations

001 - Dr. Joe Thomas, PhD12 Jan 202600:55:04

In this episode of LWBS, Dr. Joe Thomas shares his journey from a small-town to becoming a renowned leadership scholar and director of the Stockdale Center for Ethical Leadership at the Naval Academy. He discusses the importance of mentorship, the evolution of leadership education, and the need for measuring the effectiveness of leadership development. Dr. Thomas emphasizes curiosity as a vital trait for leaders and highlights the Naval Academy's role in developing future leaders through innovative programs and initiatives.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Leadership and Mentorship

01:42 Joe Thomas's Journey to the Marine Corps

04:23 The Role of Mentorship in Leadership Development

06:54 Influential Figures in Joe's Career

09:30 Transitioning to Leadership Education

12:07 The Evolution of Leadership Development

14:53 Quantitative Approaches to Leadership

17:32 The Impact of Leadership Curriculum

20:16 Reflections on Leadership Experiences

27:33 Leadership Development at the Naval Academy

32:04 The Role of the Stockdale Center

43:50 Measuring Leadership Effectiveness

47:50 Curiosity as a Leadership Trait

An Introduction to Lead with Bubba Scott (LWBS)12 Jan 202600:06:46

In this introductory episode of 'Lead with Bubba Scott,' host Bubba Scott shares his personal journey, military background, and the motivation behind starting the podcast. He emphasizes the importance of learning from both good and bad leaders and aims to create a platform for sharing diverse leadership experiences. The podcast will feature guests from various fields, providing insights into leadership and personal growth.

LWBS Bonus Episode: Professor John Carey, Leadership, Democracy, and Venezuela05 Jan 202600:57:42

In this special bonus episode of "Lead with Bubba Scott," Bubba Scott interviews Professor John Carey of Dartmouth College to discuss the recent US strike on Venezuela and its implications for Latin America. The conversation covers Professor Carey's insights on leadership, his experiences in academia, and his work on democratic resilience and electoral systems. The episode dives into the geopolitical landscape of Venezuela and the challenges of transitioning to democracy.

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