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🔒 318: "Queering" Ideas about the Godhead in the Mormon Cosmos04 Apr 202500:45:41

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Series Title: A Deep Dive into the Fascinating Cosmos Found in Taylor Petrey's Queering Kinship in the Mormon Cosmos [Part II of IV] 

Get ready to have your mind blown just a little more as Taylor walks Val through more expansive ideas around a heaven that privileges "kinship" over all other types of covenant bonds and uses the deep and loving relationship within the Godhead as a model, opening doors of eternal connection that transcend current Mormon theology.  

Queering Kinship in the Mormon Cosmos - Taylor Petrey

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317: Ideas on a Heaven Large Enough for All Loving Connection31 Mar 202500:34:35

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Series Title:  A Deep Dive into the Fascinating Cosmos Found in Taylor Petrey's Queering Kinship in the Mormon Cosmos [Part I of IV] 

In this episode Val and guest scholar and author Taylor Petrey set this series up by walking through the focus of Taylor's phenomenal new book, Queering Kinship in the Mormon Cosmos.  They set the stage to blow your mind in the many ways that an open-minded and close reading of scripture makes all kinds of space for a heaven packed with not just heterosexual love and connection.  Welcome to the world of "kinship"!

Queering Kinship in the Mormon Cosmos - Taylor Petrey

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🔒 316: "Office Hours" Exclusive: When Faith Crisis Destabilizes the LDS Marriage28 Mar 202500:51:47

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In this Office Hours live session, members of the Latter Day Struggles community are asking their questions and Valerie brings her encouraging responses. Since February is the month where love is celebrated, this conversation centers around marriage, partnership and navigating the sometimes tumultuous waters of maintaining close relationships during a faith expansion journey. 

Don’t lose heart! It really is possible to maintain love, patience and mutual respect while honoring your faith expanding experience! 

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315: Forgive Them, For They Know Not What They Do24 Mar 202501:22:23

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Series Title: Valerie & Nathan Hamaker Forced Resignation from the LDS Church [Part III of III] 

In this final episode detailing the tough events of Val and Nathan's last year trying to collaborate with their local priesthood leaders, they share why they chose to resign their membership instead of experiencing a disciplinary counsel.  They also explore
the fear that some LDS leadership experiences with mental health workers and conclude with their process of letting go of resentment or anger so that they can move forward with true freedom. 

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Thank you for your love and support at this time! 

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🔒 314: Devoted Listener/Supporter Q&A on Hamaker Forced Resignation21 Mar 202501:00:45

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Series Title: Valerie & Nathan Hamaker Forced Resignation from the LDS Church [Part II of III]

Join Val & Nathan in this episode answering questions that came in from listeners following their public announcement regarding their forced resignation from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints due to local priesthood leaders' inability to understand the nature of their work and the healing intent of their hearts. 

Thank you all for your ongoing love and support. Valerie & Nathan are committed to this platform and are honored to be a voice for psychological healing in our Latter-day Saint and surrounding community. No regrets, only love.

Books Referenced in this Episode:

Tattoos on the Heart: The Power of Boundless Compassion - Gregory Boyle

A Course in Miracles 

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313: Not Willing to be Burned at the Stake Center17 Mar 202502:10:34

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Series Title: Valerie & Nathan Hamaker Forced Resignation from the LDS Church [Part I of III] 


Please join Valerie & Nathan in this tough 3-part conversation sharing the events that led to what felt to them like their forced resignation from LDS Church this past week. 


In today’s episode Val and Nathan walk through a timeline of a lot of painful experiences in the past eighteen months with multiple well-meaning local priesthood leaders who ultimately could not overcome their fear of the healing work happening on the LDS Church on the Latter Day Struggles platform.  The episode ends with several truly beautiful testimonials sent to us by many of you, which were sent to all of these priesthood leaders, detailing the impact of our ministry—to no avail. 


COMING UP...

PART II - Friday 3/21 episode: Special full-content listener Q&A episode answering your questions asked on @latterdaystruggles.com Instagram stories today. 


PART III - Monday 3/24/25: Second half of Val and Nathan’s experiences, on their decision to resign, and their thoughts love, forgiveness, and moving forward with you. 


*** Please SHARE these episodes. Val and Nathan want the narrative around their need to formally resign from the LDS church to be understood firsthand.  



And thank you for your love & support friends.  It means everything.  We can proceed showing a different and better way. Love over fear.  WE HAVE NO REGRETS


 “[They] drew a circle that shut me out, heretic, rebel, a thing to flout. But LOVE and I had the wit to win: I drew a circle that took [them back] in." -Edwin Markham 


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312: Why Gender-based Wounds Can Only be Healed in Mixed-Gender Communities14 Mar 202500:58:50

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Series Title: Community Healing: How our Greatest Wounds & our Greatest Healing Happens through Human Relationship [Part VIII of VIII]

Join Valerie in the final episode of a series exploring the beauty of community healing in the context of an LDS faith crisis. In this episode you will meet two current members of Valerie's brand new advanced content group, processing the impact of growing up in a patriarchal world and church. 

This group dives deeply into how each and every one of us has been deeply impacted by the "Christianization of Patriarchy," and how awareness of our roots brings about healing and wholeness. 

Valerie made a point to invite both a woman and a man from the new group to join her in this episode, where they could not only share their own personal journeys of awakening but also reflect on what it was like to witness someone of the opposite gender go through their own process of learning and growth. 

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311: By the Mouths of Four Witnesses: Community Healing in LDS Faith Crisis10 Mar 202501:04:34

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Series Title: Community Healing: How our Greatest Wounds & our Greatest Healing Happens through Human Relationship [Part VII of VIII]

Join Valerie and four amazing guests who get really brave speaking about their LDS faith journey as they become acquainted with the concept of true community. 

In this episode Val invites two women and two men to talk about the fear of joining a healing group, especially in light of negative experiences, too common in their lives, when they shared what they were experiencing in church, or with some of their immediate and extended families.

Too often, their faith journeys made loved ones uncomfortable, sometimes even bringing up anger, guilt, or shame.

Listen as they share how healing it is to know that they "belong" simply because they are children of God on a quest for personal growth. In the Latter Day Struggles growth and processing groups, people learn that you do not have to believe a certain way to be loved, seen, and accepted. 

Revolutionary, right?

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310: A "Masculine" Man's True Self Journey Home to His Healthy Feminine07 Mar 202500:46:20

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Series Title: Community Healing: How our Greatest Wounds & our Greatest Healing Happens through Human Relationship [Part VI of VIII]

In this Friday episode you will meet Leo, another fellow listener to the Latter Day Struggles podcast and an ongoing participant in Valerie's healing communities.  

Leo and Val talk about Leo's true self journey and how he has realized his  estrangement from his true self and how that was closely connected to burying multiple aspects of himself due to the demands of patriarchy.  

Leo shares his confusion at the concept of true self and how he eventually realized that reclaiming this part of himself was the key to all healing in every area of his life.  

Listen in and see if this resonates with you if you are a man socialized out of your wholeness by patriarchy...or if you are a woman who knows and loves a man who might resonate with Leo's very relatable experience.  

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309: Love of Others Begins with Finding Unshakable Goodness Within03 Mar 202500:39:29

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Community Healing: How our Greatest Wounds & our Greatest Healing Happens through Human Relationship [Part V of VIII]

In this beautiful episode I welcome Devin (another graduate of my faith expansion growth and processing group) who was willing to share his experiences coming into deep connection with his true self as the most fundamental part of his faith journey.  

In this episode Devin and I talk about his wrestle with feeling "good enough" to even imagine a self that is infinitely good, loveable, and enough--mainly due to harmful early messaging and experiences connected to sin and worthiness.  

In Devin's journey he was able to slowly unlearn old and harmful ideas with the love and support of group members and supportive loved ones and finally embrace his true identity--which has carried him deeper into further growth, healing, and not only acceptance of himself, but a deeper commitment to seeing others outside of any kind of power hierarchy.   

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308: "I Am Not My Ability to Bear Children": A Tender Journey Towards True Self Discovery28 Feb 202500:40:18

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Series Title: Community Healing: How our Greatest Wounds & our Greatest Healing Happens through Human Relationship [Part IV of VIII]

Join Val in this beautiful episode with guest Joy, who shares some tender elements of her faith journey which began long before joining one of the growth & processing communities.

Val and Joy talk about Joy's journey finding her "true self" after realizing that the core of her selfhood could *not* be her ability to have the large family she desired.

They discuss what happens to a woman when what is "supposed" to happen slams into the reality of actually happens, and how pain and grief are often the catalysts to our deepest growth and personal empowerment.

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307: On the Process of Awakening to Our Worthiness as the Factory Setting24 Feb 202500:55:12

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Series Title: Community Healing: How our Greatest Wounds & our Greatest Healing Happens through Human Relationship [Part III of VIII]

In this episode, Valerie and Nathan set the stage for why those who commit themselves to Val's healing groups say that what they learn about the concept of the "true self" can be life changing.

Val and Nathan talk about why this idea not only gives us access to full healing from LDS faith and trust crisis, it also offers a path to a more full, peaceful, and confident life.

The "true self" concept is a fundamental aspect of Val's Latter Day Struggles group curriculum. Members discover how to heal from their Mormon faith crisis through understanding who they are and what they believe. A year later, members will graduate knowing so much more about themselves, tapping into a well of personal growth and freedom they never thought possible.

This episode kicks off a series of voices that follow, where Val invites three different women and men to share their transformative experiences learning about their own "true selves". 

The Untethered Soul: The Journey Beyond Yourself - Michael Singer

Awareness: Conversations with the Masters - Anthony De Mello 

The Different Drum - M. Scott Peck

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306: "I Didn't Think Feeling This Safe was Possible in a Group of People"21 Feb 202500:54:14

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Series Title: Community Healing: How our Greatest Wounds & our Greatest Healing Happens through Human Relationship [Part II of VIII]

In today's episode Val and Nathan go deeper into what they have learned about the unique healing process of faith and trust crisis connected to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.  You'll learn how our faith crisis journey might be a bit different from other religion's faith journeys and why being in a non-judgmental group of people (who are open to whatever spiritual path you choose) is perhaps the most healing part of the journey. 

 Why?  Because it helps you realize that you ARE capable of being the authority of your own life and your own relationship with spirituality and with your higher powers.  Listen in to find some confidence that there is a neutral space for discovering your own indwelling competencies for spiritual growth!  

Referenced in this Episode: 

Gender Equity & Reconciliation: Thirty Years of Healing the Most Ancient Wound in the Human Family 

Living an Examined Life - James Hollis

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305: What? I Belong Here No Matter What I Believe?17 Feb 202500:47:24

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Series Title:  Community Healing: How our Greatest Wounds & our Greatest Healing Happens through Human Relationship [Part I of VIII]

The LDS faith journey is not an 'individual sport' and although some of us try, we realize that it can't really be done alone. 


 In this episode Val and Nathan walk you through why so many of us try to walk through this "valley of the shadow" alone. 


 We try to  hide what’s happening to us due to what we've been taught about those who doubt, question, and seek for something beyond the correlated gospel. 

Then they talk about what they have learned from hundreds of you who have been instrumental in the creation of a phenomenon that no one expected would happen--little micro-communities of sacred growth and healing happening almost every day of the week on the Latter Day Struggles platform. 


If you want hope that healing your LDS-"crisising" soul is possible, once again, this episode is for you.  And you'll learn why community is so important to the journey. 

Referenced in this Episode:
Gender Equity & Reconciliation: Thirty Years of Healing the Most Ancient Wound in the Human Family

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🔒 304: The Invisible Cage: Patriarchy's Invisible Toll on Male True Self Development14 Feb 202500:45:42

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Series Title: The Profound Impact of Feminine Suppression on Men & their Churches [Part VIII of VIII]

This is the final episode in a groundbreaking series diving deeply into what a lack of the feminine looks like in both LDS men and the LDS church itself. This episode 
explores the profound ways in which patriarchal systems affect men's ability to discover and develop their true selves because patriarchies encourage the over-cultivation of traits that privilege power over partnership and external achievement over personal growth and development. 

Valerie and Nathan discuss the internal struggles that men face when conditioned to spend their whole lives constructing false self identities, leading to ego inflation, exhaustion, mental health issues, and sometimes a sense of meaninglessness late in life. 

Most importantly, this episode highlights how patriarchal systems distract men from the very purpose of life: to learn how to connect with one's own divinity, with others, and with their divine creators. Nathan's personal experiences and practical insights about his own growth journey provides a heartfelt look at overcoming patriarchal conditioning for a more holistic self-realization.

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The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity and Love - Bell Hooks

Living an Examined Life - James Hollis

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303: Alone Together: Redefining Masculinity & Femininity to Heal LDS Marriages10 Feb 202500:44:37

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Series Title: The Profound Impact of Feminine Suppression on Men & their Churches [Part VII of VIII]

In this episode Valerie and Nathan get personal as they share their marriage journey awakening to the impact that patriarchal influences had on their ability to connect and really grow closer as a couple and family. They candidly share VERY REAL moments of early distress and disconnection, especially the struggles that occurred before they realized the core of their struggles. 

What they realized and are still learning each day is that each human being thrives as an individual AND within marriage and family life only as they fully embrace both their divine masculine AND their divine feminine attributes. Before they understand this profound concept, they suffered without a map for healing. 

In short, if imbalanced energies in church are painful, amplify that pain exponentially within in the home.  

Listen to this entire series to expand your potential for health and healing in every important relationship in your life.

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🔒 302: When Patriarchal Little Boys are Taught Not to Feel07 Feb 202500:44:59

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Series Title: The Profound Impact of Feminine Suppression on Men & Their Churches [Part VI of VIII]]

In this heart-to-heart episode of Latter Day Struggles, Val and Nathan delve into the profound effects of patriarchal conditioning and its impact on men's abilities to become relationally and emotionally mature. 

Val and Nathan explore how little boys (raised in patriarchal cultures and churches) are often discouraged from cultivating traits fundamental to relational and emotional health due to a transmitted fear that these attributes are too feminine. They explore how this is not only a sad message for little boys, but that this messaging can be devastating for grown men who cannot experience true love and connection in their marriages and family lives. 

Don't miss a single episode of this compelling and possibly life-changing series. Val and Nathan care so much about our individual and collective healing.

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301: What Patriarchies Teach Men about Weakness & Vulnerability03 Feb 202500:48:26

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Series Title: The Profound Impact of Feminine Suppression on Men & their Churches [Part V of VIII]. 

In this compelling episode Valerie and Nathan delve deep into the subtleties of benevolent patriarchy and how it places harmful pressures on men. They explore the unrealistic expectations for men to always be strong, the emotional and psychological costs of these societal norms, and how these pressures can lead to personal and relational breakdowns. 

Once again, Nathan lays it all out there with his own life experiences and talks about the debilitating pressure that he dutifully carried until he realized that this load was not only not necessary, but that it was not helpful, loving, or good for himself or his loved ones. 

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🔒 300: Unraveling the Patriarchal Male Superiority Complex31 Jan 202500:44:39

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In this enlightening episode, Valerie and Nathan tackle another tough but important topic: the insidious issue of the male superiority complex fostered by systemic patriarchy. They discuss how patriarchal structures teach boys and men, both subtly and explicitly, that they are superior to women, impacting the emotional and psychological development of all genders. 

Nathan shares personal reflections on how he now sees that what he was taught and how he was treated as a boy and man in a patriarchal world and church deeply affected his own behavior and relationships. He invites all men to confront and unlearn these biases so that men both in and around the LDS church can embody their God-given potential, which frankly cannot be realized when their characters are crippled by patriarchal ideas. 

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299: What Happens When Collaboration & Connection are Neglected at Church27 Jan 202500:44:35

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Series Title: The Profound Impact of Feminine Suppression on Men & their Churches [Part III of VIII]

Glad you're back! In this episode Valerie and Nathan delve into the impact that the overemphasis on masculine energy has on the ideas and practices within the LDS church because it is an institutional patriarchy. 

Today they focus on the masculine trait of competitiveness and explore how this plays out in unhealthy ways when not balanced with collaboration, its feminine counterpart. 

They then show how the masculine attribute of protection can also go sideways when not balanced with the feminine trait of emotional connection. In each case, they will offer on-the-ground examples that you might have felt uncomfortable about but never thought to connect to the deprivation of feminine energies within the church. 

This episode and series was designed to show that healthy humans and systems need the divine, balancing energies of the masculine and the feminine and that there are very real consequences when both are not honored and celebrated. 

As they say, once you see it, you cannot "not" see it. Val and Nathan are honored to be a part of this eye-opening and healing journey towards balance and personal and institutional healing. 

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🔒 298: Subtle but Profound Examples of Hyper-Masculine Energy within the Church24 Jan 202500:48:22

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Series Title: The Profound Impact of Feminine Suppression on Men and their Churches [Part II of VIII]

In this episode Val and Nathan move from the theoretical to the practical and talk about what it actually looks like on the ground when divine masculine and feminine energies are not appreciated, balanced, and celebrated. 

They use a handful of specific masculine attributes that are prominent within LDS culture and practice to demonstrate what imbalance looks like, what feminine attributes might be called upon to provide the needed counterbalance, and how all humans involved in imbalanced collectives are stagnated in their growth and development. 

If you have always wanted "words" to describe some of the "senses" you have had while on your faith journey, Val and Nathan think this series is going to blow your mind. What they have learned in the study and preparation of this series has changed their perspectives in countless ways. They are so excited to share this information with you, their podcasting family!  

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297: Two Wings of the Same Bird: Rediscovering Masculine & Feminine Energies20 Jan 202500:49:38

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Series Title: The Profound Impact of Feminine Suppression on Men and their Churches [Part I of VIII]

Val and Nathan's series tackling the common traits connecting psychologically/spiritually underdeveloped people with men strongly socialized in a patriarchy went NUTS in response, shares, and downloads (episodes 283-288) as expected.  

Why?  Because our LDS faith expanding community seems to be STARVING to learn more about what health and wholeness looks like when women and men are both seen and treated as equals.  

No fear, there is SO MUCH to say on this topic...at least eight more episodes!  

In this opening episode of a new series diving even deeper into the on-the-ground costs exacted on men due to their patriarchal wiring, Val and Nathan start by creating a framework for what healthy masculinity and femininity could look like in every human being socialized as equals (no matter their gender!)  

This episode focuses on how masculinity/maleness and femininity/femaleness are often used interchangeably and deeply misunderstood in this patriarchal world where we've all be raised.  This episode sets the record straight on this topic as a foundation of the rest of this series.   

This entire 8-part series aims to foster a more balanced understanding of both masculine and feminine traits within all people regardless of gender, particularly within the context of the LDS faith community as we confront the relational and spiritual harm caused by patriarchal structures of every shape and size.  

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🔒 296: Are You a Bridge Between the LDS "Loyalist" & the "Leaver"?17 Jan 202501:05:20

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Series Title: Cutting Edge Research on the LDS Faith Journey Experience [Part II of II]

In this series' second half with the amazing author and researcher Jana Riess, you won't be disappointed in an abundance of aha moments and things to ponder after the closing music. 

Val and Jana delve deeply into several aspects of Jana's current research (yes...new book forthcoming and you're hearing about it HERE before anyone else!) and dive deep into what Jana is learning about the important role that "edge" people (on the inside or the outside) play in bridging our sadly divided space. 

Jana and Val also tackle the very complex topic of negotiating church activity during faith transitions and how members handle shifts in sexual behavior and shame. These discussions provide a comprehensive view of how personal identity and community intersect during faith transitions.

Jana's book The Next Mormons: How Millennials Are Changing the LDS Church can be found HERE 

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295: On LDS "Loyalists", "Leavers" & Everyone In Between! with Jana Riess13 Jan 202500:43:00

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Series Title: Cutting Edge Research on the LDS Faith Journey Experience [Part I of II]

You're in for a wonderful two episodes here as Valerie welcomes researcher and author Jana Reiss for a conversation brimming with details about Jana's current project (a forthcoming book!) centered around the diverse personal experiences of hundreds of people on the LDS faith spectrum. 

In order to not give too many spoilers for the next two episodes, you'll need to tune in to hear what she is learning in both her surveys and oral history interviews about people like yourself and also about people whom you love on different places of the spectrum. 

In this info-packed two part conversation they hit (among other things!): 

  • sociopolitical influences on the LDS faith journey 
  • navigating sexual ethics during/after the faith journey
  • the role of "edge" dwellers on potentially helping our LDS faith spectrum learn how to talk to one another

Jana's research is in part an effort to help us wherever we are on the LDS spectrum understand one another better...which we couldn't love more here on the Latter Day Struggles podcast! 

Jana's book The Next Mormons: How Millennials Are Changing the LDS Church can be found HERE

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🔒 294: "Office Hours" Exclusive: Celebrating the Holidays on the Edge of the Inside10 Jan 202500:50:08

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In this recording of the  December's Office Hours special event offered to all of our "Full Content" Family of Listeners, Valerie answers a variety of questions from several listeners anxious about holiday events in the throes of the LDS faith journey.  

During the holidays (or any family event surrounded by more traditionally believing family and friends) do you find yourself worried about how to talk to people whom you've never had trouble talking to before? Do you ruminate about how much to share? How much to not share? What is appropriate to share and when?  Is it okay to ask loved ones to not just assume you are open to traditional activities that might make you uncomfortable now that your worldview is shifting?  

Who knew a family party could become so stressful?  

Listen in for some questions and responses that likely will remind you that you are not alone in the relational complications of the LDS faith journey--especially connected to family gatherings.

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293: How the Powerhouses on "At Last She Said It" Found Their Backbones & their Voices06 Jan 202501:04:24

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When someone starts a podcast in the LDS faith journey space, one question that is often asked is this: "Have You ALWAYS had this much courage?" Join Valerie in this episode as she asks this question to friends and colleagues Susan and Cynthia of "At Last She Said It". 

In this episode Susan & Cynthia share very different stories about their journeys that led them to the airwaves. Their stories are each unique in part because their temperaments are totally different, and perhaps that is what makes their work so relatable, engaging, and inspiring. 

So whether you are an introvert (like Susan) or an extrovert (like Cynthia) there will definitely be something in this episode for you if you're looking to find that backbone and voice of your own to use in some realm of your life! 

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🔒 292: LDSP CLASSIC! The Impact of Female Development in a Patriarchal Structure03 Jan 202501:06:59

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Happy holidays Latter Day Struggles listeners!  For the next four episodes you will enjoy a few "Classic" episodes that have received some of the highest number of downloads and waves of feedback that these are among some of the most impactful episodes for many listeners.

Also, as a way to share my love and gratitude for all of you during this holiday season, the classic episodes dropped on Friday 12/27/24 and Monday 1/3/25 will be open to ALL listeners! 
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Today’s Classic episode is 214: 

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In this episode Valerie and Nathan explore how healthy identity development is stifled for both men and women due to the patriarchal structure of the church.

They discuss how a patriarchy cultivates a robust false self ego identity in the "one up" male gender and how the structure of the church stifles healthy ego development in the “one down” female gender in several ways (which they discuss in detail in this episode). 

This entire series calls for a reevaluation of the current unequal distribution of opportunities for the growth and development of the true self in the LDS church and invites this church to become a place where all humans are nurtured in the development of their whole selves. 

**More sensitive or more psychologically advanced themes are saved for paid Friday episodes to protect the content creators from being mischaracterized by less familiar consumers.**

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291: LDSP CLASSIC! Women Worldwide Vote "Opposed" to Institutional Claims of Female Authority30 Dec 202401:30:38

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Happy holidays Latter Day Struggles listeners!  For the next four episodes you will enjoy a few "Classic" episodes that have received some of the highest number of downloads and waves of feedback that these are among some of the most impactful episodes for many listeners.

Also, as a way to share my love and gratitude for all of you during this holiday season, the classic episodes dropped on Friday 12/27/24 and Monday 1/3/25 will be open to ALL listeners!  Thank you for your support as your subscriptions make this podcast possible and sustainable in the long run.  

Today’s Classic is episode 211: 

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Join Valerie as she explores a variety of topics connected to the 2024 rebirth of the Law of Common Consent demonstrated by LDS women throughout the world who recently voted "opposed" to claims that women in the LDS church have more authority than women of other church's worldwide. 

In this episode, Valerie processes a variety of topics including: 

**Several reasons why the LDS church has chronic struggles with allowing women equality. 

**A conversation about historical lack of collaboration with systems of learning, knowledge, and worldwide restoration enlightenment. 

**A maladaptive commitment to "immovability". 

**A conversation about the need to address intersectionality of the feminine divine and queer issues in LDS "eternal family" theology.

**Encouragement to embody love as the foundational energy of lasting spiritually-empowering social reform. 


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🔒 290: LDSP CLASSIC! Glimpse into the Spiritual Journey of LDS Theologian Fiona Givens27 Dec 202400:45:15

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Also, as a way to share my love and gratitude for all of you during this holiday season, the classic episodes dropped on Friday 12/27/24 and Monday 1/3/25 will be open to ALL listeners!  Thank you for your support as your subscriptions make this podcast possible and sustainable in the long run.  


In this beautiful and tender episode, Valerie has the privilege of interviewing LDS theologian Fiona Givens about her early life, diverse experiences, important relationships, and classical education that eventually led her into the LDS faith and deeply into the study of many facets of the nature of God.

This story is one of all of the typical ups and downs, seemingly insignificant events that lead to other more significant events, and finally a few moments where Valerie proposes to Fiona why her unique life distinctively prepared her for the work that she is doing now; something that is profoundly blessing thousands of faith-expanding Latter Day Saints in this era.  Perhaps Fiona is our own “Esther”, prepared for such a time as now.

Don’t miss this truly love-filled episode if you have found healing through the work of Fiona Givens.  It will endear you to her even more.

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Today’s Classic is episode: 126 

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In this beautiful and tender episode, Valerie has the privilege of interviewing LDS theologian Fiona Givens about her early life, diverse experiences, important relationships, and classical education that eventually led her into the LDS faith and deeply into the study of many facets of the nature of God.

This story is one of all of the typical ups and downs, seemingly insignificant events that lead to other more significant events, and finally a few moments where Valerie proposes to Fiona why her unique life distinctively prepared her for the work that she is doing now; something that is profoundly blessing thousands of faith-expanding Latter Day Saints in this era.  Perhaps Fiona is our own “Esther”, prepared for such a time as now.

Don’t miss this truly love-filled episode if you have found healing through the work of Fiona Givens.  It will endear you to her even more.

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289: LDSP CLASSIC! Feminine Visions, Divine Love, and Differentiation with Fiona Givens23 Dec 202401:18:56

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Also, as a way to share my love and gratitude for all of you during this holiday season, the classic episodes dropped on Fridays 12/27/24 and  1/3/25 will be open to ALL listeners! 

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Today’s “Classic” is episode 125: 

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Join Valerie and guest Fiona Givens as together they discuss a true prophetess and mystic, Julian of Norwich.

Father Richard Rohr has often called Julian his "favorite mystic" and Fiona attributes this woman as one of the most personally influential to her in the development of her own whole and holy theology of the divine.  If these two recommendations aren't enough for you...then I don't know what to say!

A few highlights of this episode:

  1. **Julian's “showings” really shine a light on God’s inability to be angry with us for our humanness
  2. **Our current struggles with the nature of God in some brings up pain, anxiety, religious scrupulosity, and defection from the church
  3. **Our misunderstandings of the nature of God brings up generational trauma to the extent that we perpetuate a God concept that estranges us from Julian's God of infinite love
  4. **According to Julian's visions, sin is “no thing” in God’s eyes.  Our missteps are the education that endears us to God
  5. **As a committed Catholic, Julian too struggles with heavenly visions that did not align with the teachings of her “holy church” and she [as do we] does the work of differentiating her church’s imperfections with her personal revelations, choosing to align with the truth that was revealed to her directly from it’s source

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🔒 288: Helping LDS Men Become Who They are Capable of Becoming19 Dec 202400:39:09

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Series Title: The Shocking Correlation Between Men Socialized in Patriarchies & Emotional Underdevelopment [Part VI of VI]

In this final episode of this incredibly important six-part series, Valerie and Nathan focus on why an education on patriarchy's impact on the spiritual and psychological souls of boys and men can be a catalyst for individual, family, and systemic healing in our faith tradition. If we as a spiritual community do not see systemic harm, we cannot confront it and heal it. 

Val and Nathan advocate for these changes in an effort to help all humans (at all ages connected in any way to the Latter-day Saint tradition) thrive in every area of spiritual and psychological development. Please share this series with those who may benefit!
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Breaking Down Patriarchy Podcast- Amy McPhie Allebest- "How to be an Anti-Patriarchist

LDSS Patriarchy Series: Episodes 212, 213,

Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People- Lindsey C. Gibson PsyD

The Will to Change- Bell Hooks

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287: Why Patriarchal Men Cannot Tolerate Critique16 Dec 202400:43:13

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Series Title: The Shocking Correlation Between Men Socialized in Patriarchies & Psychological/Spiritual Underdevelopment [Part V of VI] 

In this episode, Valerie and Nathan continue to discuss how being spiritually formed in a patriarchy negatively affects men. This episode highlights how being raised in this "power-over model" hampers male emotional maturity, leading to issues like lack of empathy, rigid black-and-white thinking, and minimal self-reflection, making it tough for men to admit mistakes or be accountable to those around them both personally and institutionally. 

Valerie and Nathan emphasize their desire to highlight this topic, hoping that more knowledge will bring a greater capacity for individual, family, and institutional growth and healing.


Breaking Down Patriarchy Podcast- Amy McPhie Allebest- "How to be an Anti-Patriarchist

Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People- Lindsey C. Gibson PsyD

The Creation of Patriarchy- Greda Lerner

Sapiens: A Brief History of Human Kind- Yuval Noah Harari 

The Weaker Sex? Science That Shows Women are Stronger Than Men- The Guardian





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🔒 286: Why Patriarchal Men Struggle Giving and Receiving Love13 Dec 202400:40:57

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Series Title: The Shocking Correlation Between Men Socialized in Patriarchies & Psychological/Spiritual Underdevelopment [Part IV of VI]

In this episode, Valerie and Nathan continue their exploration of how patriarchy harms men by discussing the overlap between emotional underdevelopment and patriarchal socialization. 

They highlight how deeply socialized masculine norms restrict male emotional development beginning in boyhood, leading boys and men to have difficulties giving and receiving love in every relationship of their lives. 

They also discuss Jesus Christ as a model of healthy masculinity and femininity, advocating for a shift away from rigid gender roles as a path towards emotional and spiritual maturity for both women and men.

Breaking Down Patriarchy Podcast- Amy McPhie Allebest- "How to be an Anti-Patriarchist

Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People- Lindsey C. Gibson PsyD

Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents- Lindsay C. Gibson PsyD

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285: Why Patriarchal Men See the World Transactionally09 Dec 202400:44:13

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Series Title: The Shocking Correlation Between Men Socialized in Patriarchies & Psychological/Spiritual Underdevelopment  [Part III of VI]

In this episode Valerie and Nathan continue to explore how patriarchal systems can negatively impact the spiritual and psychological development of men. 

They discuss why patriarchal men learn to see the world transactionally, why they might struggle with listening skills, and how this all impacts their capacity to find connection with their higher selves, others, and God. Nathan shares his personal journey of moving away from these norms, emphasizing the need for men to embrace a more emotionally aware and connected way of living. Join us as we dive deep into these critical issues and offer insights for creating healthier relationships.


Breaking Down Patriarchy Podcast- Amy McPhie Allebest- "How to be an Anti-Patriarchist

Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People- Lindsey C. Gibson PsyD

Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents- Lindsay C. Gibson PsyD

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🔒 284: Why Patriarchal Men Struggle to See Others’ Realities06 Dec 202400:51:12

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Series Title:  The Shocking Correlation Between Men Socialized in Patriarchies & Psychological/Spiritual Underdevelopment [Part II of VI] 

In this episode, Valerie and Nathan delve deeper into the effects of patriarchy on men, making sense of why some of our men struggle to look squarely at historical realities and struggle with seeing another’s viewpoint or self-reflection.  

In this series Nathan is incredibly vulnerable, sharing how he has spent most of his life unknowingly stagnated in his psychological [and  therefore, spiritual] development by being raised in a patriarchal world and religious system as a cishet, white, Southern, American man. 

This beautifully candid conversation reveals the challenges of unlearning patriarchal conditioning and embracing a fuller, more authentic self.  

Tough? Yes.  Possible?  Absolutely.  

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283: Patriarchy and its Connection to Low Empathy in Men02 Dec 202400:51:47

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Series Title:  The Shocking Correlation Between Men Socialized in Patriarchies & Psychological/Spiritual Underdevelopment [Part I of VI]

Join Valerie and Nathan as they kick off a new DEEP DIVE series exploring how patriarchy affects men in the LDS Church.

This series compares the attributes that emotionally underdeveloped people have in common with men socialized in an institutional patriarchy. 

In each episode Nathan candidly shares how he is slowly healing from the wounds that patriarchal teachings imposed upon his mind and heart. 

Tune in to understand with even more clarity how patriarchal structures negatively impact the growth and development of everyone, not just women, and why addressing this topic is crucial for a healthier LDS church.

Don't miss this eye-opening six-part conversation!

Breaking Down Patriarchy Podcast- Amy McPhie Allebest: "How to be an Anti-Patriarchist

Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents- Lindsay C. Gibson PsyD

LDSS Patriarchy Series: Episodes 212, 213, 214

LDSS Blog: Patriarchy's Effect on Men's Mental Health

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🔒 282: LDS Women Model Community over Ideological Purity29 Nov 202400:50:38

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Series Title: Celebrating 50 Years Exponent II & Mormon Feminist Voices [Part II of II]

In this episode Valerie continues to visit with Heather Sundahl and Katie Rich about how the Exponent II community provided the LDS patriarchal structure with a model of how organizations look when run by women and for women and gender minorities.

What does this look like?
• Rotating leadership structure that allows many voices, ideas, and opinions
• The privileging of community over ideological purity
• An interest in many voices and diverse experiences
• More listening, curiosity, and empathy
• A focus on providing safe space to experience connection all of the way along the Mormon heritage spectrum

Listen to this incredible episode honoring not only the Exponent II organization itself but also a recent book published to capture its history and vision.

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281: A Fascinating History of Feminism in the LDS Church25 Nov 202400:57:06

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Series Title: Celebrating 50 Years Exponent II & Mormon Feminist Voices [Part I of II]

In this episode, Valerie speaks with Katie Ludlow Rich and Heather Sundahl, the co-authors of newly  published book '50 Years of Exponent II'.

They discuss the fascinating history of the original “Woman's Exponent” magazine in the late 1800s and its  revival magazine  “Exponent II”, both offering a place for Mormon feminists to gather, write, and share their experiences as  women of different eras wrestling with issues crucial to their time and their identity as women.

The conversation in this and  Friday’s episode explores the impact of polygamy on Mormon feminism, the importance of women's independent voices, and how Exponent II's existence provided a crucial platform for Mormon women's stories and experiences.

Trying to make sense of how feminism exists in an institutional patriarchy? Wanting to find others who value their heritage but feel passion for women’s and  gender minority issues? You’ve found your place!

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🔒 280: Post-General Conference “Office Hours” Subscriber’s Recording22 Nov 202400:59:31

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In this first “Office Hours” virtual meet-up, Valerie processes General Conference with Latter Day Struggles podcast subscribers.  If you’re a subscriber and you couldn’t make it, no worries: here is the recording! 

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279: Strategies to Heal Mixed-Faith LDS Couples18 Nov 202400:45:17

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Series Title: A Story of LDS Faith Expansion & Marital Resilience [Part V of V]

In this episode Valerie answers a variety of audience questions regarding the complexities of the LDS faith journey when a married couple finds themselves in different places on the LDS faith spectrum.  

Valerie provides resources, insights, and tools around topics that range from how to establish emotional safety in frightening conversations, how to develop emotional intimacy, how to navigate parenting struggles, healthy boundaries, and how to grow intimacy & mutual in the differentiating marriage.  

NOTE: the episode that was mentioned in this episode as forthcoming addressing why LDS marriages struggle so much when one partner goes on a faith journey was dropped one episode BEFORE this one (not after this one!). Sorry for the possible confusion!  

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🔒 278: Why So Much Suffering in the LDS Marriage?15 Nov 202400:45:33

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Series Title: A Story of LDS Faith Expansion & Marital Resilience [Part IV of V]

In this sensitive-content exclusive episode, Val tackles a tough theme--why does the LDS faith journey of one partner put thousands of marriages into a full blown tailspin?  In this episode she offers ideas that stem from hundreds of professional hours working with LDS couples in deep pain.  

Topics covered in this episode include fear experienced due to the eternal marriage theology, low differentiation in many marriages, struggles that many couples have in managing conflict constructively, and the impact that being part of an institutional patriarchy may have on issues of growth and flourishing for couples.  

This episode concluded with Val offering insights on what she has learned in working with couples who come to thrive following the faith journey of one partner.  If your marriage is on shaky ground, this episode might offer valuable wisdom, hope, and direction to you! 

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277: My Faith Journey Actually Made our Marriage Stronger11 Nov 202401:06:13

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Series Title: A Story of LDS Faith Expansion & Marital Resilience [Part III of V]

In this episode, Valerie is joined again by Katie and Jeremy as they share their journey from early religious alignment, through painful confusion and isolation, and then profound personal and relational growth and intimacy as a couple and family. 

Emphasizing the importance of emotional safety, attachment styles, and healthy stress management,  Through their candid discussions, Katie and Jeremy reveal how understanding each other's childhood experiences, pursuing curiosity over certainty, and utilizing trauma-informed counseling have given them the tools needed to resuscitate their marriage and find more connection than they had even before their faith expanding journey together. 

This episode highlights strategies for couples facing similar faith-related challenges and offers a wealth of hope, practical advice, and profound insights for couples striving to strengthen their relationships amidst evolving spiritual beliefs connected to the LDS faith tradition. 

For more information on the online class created and facilitated by Valerie Hamaker [Stress Management and Sharing Your Narrative] that is discussed in this episode go to https://valerie-hamaker-s-school1.teachable.com/p/a-couple-s-guide-to-faith-crisis-expansion-session-03-stress-management-sharing-your-narrative

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🔒 276: Differentiation & Devotion: Building a Growth-Oriented Marriage08 Nov 202400:56:26

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Series Title: A Story of LDS Faith Expansion & Marital Resilience [Part II of V]

In this in-depth episode of Latter Day Struggles, Valerie continues the three-part series with Katie and Jeremy, a couple now thriving following a rough time of transition as Katie was evolving in her relationship to God and spirituality. 

Val leads Katie and Jeremy in a conversation about their complex journey, focusing on creating a supportive and differentiated marriage. Key topics include intentional parenting, honoring individual spiritual pathways, and building a strong relationship based on values rather than uniform beliefs. 

They share personal stories and insights, offering hope and practical advice for others in mixed-faith marriages.

Learn more about the online class created and facilitated by Valerie Hamaker [Establishing Safety as a Couple] discussed in this episode here 



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275: An LDS Marriage in the Valley of the Shadow04 Nov 202401:27:37

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Series Title: A Story of LDS Faith Expansion & Marital Resilience [Part I of V]

In this episode, Valerie hosts a heartfelt and raw discussion with Katie and Jeremy about the complexities of navigating a mixed-faith marriage. They share personal stories, fears, challenges, and the journey they've taken to find common ground and love despite differing faith paths.

This episode delves into the deep emotions of fear, hurt, shame, loneliness, and highlights the importance of communication, empathy, and love in overcoming marital struggles connected to faith transitions.

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🔒 274: On Becoming Truth Discerners01 Nov 202400:33:57

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Series Title: Navigating Information Quality in the Latter Days [Part II of II]

Join Val and Nathan in this two-part series walking you through six questions that you can tape on your fridge and bathroom mirror to help you become a super savvy discerner of information quality.  

In an age where we are inundated with information and people from all quarters of our lives wanting to persuade us to do things their way--this short series hopefully will assist you in becoming more savvy in every area of your life!  

Link to Todd Cashden's book "The Art of Insubordination" here






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273: 6 Crucial Questions When Evaluating Information28 Oct 202400:39:27

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Series Title: Navigating Information Quality in the Latter Days  [Part I of II]

Join Val and Nathan in this two-part series walking you through six questions that you can tape on your fridge and bathroom mirror to help you become a super savvy discerner of information quality.  

In an age where we are inundated with information and people from all quarters of our lives wanting to persuade us to do things their way--this short series hopefully will assist you in becoming more savvy in every area of your life!  

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🔒 272: More Temple Garment Changes & More Concerns about Healthy Autonomy w/ Jody Hansen & Maxine Hanks25 Oct 202401:27:48

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In this exclusive episode, Valerie is joined by Jody England Hansen and Maxine Hanks where they delve into the recent changes in the style of the temple garment for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. 

They explore the psychological, theological, and historical implications of these updates, discussing the complexities around personal revelation, institutional control, and the evolution of the garment policy over time. 

The conversation includes an analysis of how religious garments have shifted from mystical symbols to objects of control, where many (especially women) feel micromanaged and mistrusted and the call for members to reclaim their personal spiritual journeys. 

This episode is intended to help people connected in some way to the LDS church make sense of their complex feelings about the recent temple garment style changes in the context of their faith expansion journey.  More information on this topic can be found in Episode 222 of the Latter Day Struggles podcast.  





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271: Introducing a NEW GROUP: Growing up in a Patriarchy!21 Oct 202400:19:11

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Hello everyone! Here is a quick introduction to NEW curriculum that I am putting together (by popular demand!) helping our Latter-day Saint and surrounding community better understand our complicated relationship with what healthy masculinity and femininity looks like in all human beings and how this concept has been warped by being socialized in multiple layers of patriarchy.  

This group beginning on November 7th at 10:30a Central is for those who have already been in at least 6 months of group work with me.  There are only 5 SEATS LEFT!!  Email admin@latterdaystruggles.com if interested and if eligible, you will receive a registration link via email.   First come first served!  Women AND men invited!  See you there!  

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🔒 270: On Becoming a Safer Place for LDS Families to Grow and Thrive18 Oct 202400:37:41

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Series Title: Faith Journeying Parents of Adult Children [Part IV of IV]

In this episode Val recommends six fundamental adjustments to LDS thought that might heal families who are spread across the spectrum of faith. 

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269: When a Family Trusts Their Mom's Faith Journey14 Oct 202400:56:51

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Series Title: Faith Journeying Parents of Adult Children [Part III of IV]

In this tender episode Valerie has a conversation with special guest, Kim, who shares the intense emotional experience of entering into her own faith journey in the face of terror that she might lose the love and trust of her children and grandchildren.  

This episode walks us through the steps she took to meet each of her adult children where they were while also standing in her own sacred truths.  

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