Kiln Rendez-Vous Podcast – Détails, épisodes et analyse

In this second episode of Kiln L1 Ecosystems Rendez-Vous, we sit down with Don Wilson, the founder and CEO of DRW. DRW is a diversified trading firm with over 2,000 employees across major financial hubs with proven expertise innovating across both traditional and cutting-edge markets. Listen as Don shares his unique insights on:🔸 The origins of DRW and its evolution into a global trading powerhouse🔸 How DRW entered the crypto space (hint: Bitcoin in 2012!)🔸 The birth of Cumberland (now a top crypto liquidity provider) and Digital Asset (company pushing Canton Network)🔸 Why privacy and composability are critical for institutional DeFi adoption🔸 DRW’s groundbreaking work on tokenized treasuries and collateral mobility🔸 The future of Canton Network as a bridge between TradFi and blockchainDon also discusses the regulatory landscape, the convergence of AI and finance, and why he believes Canton could become the go-to L1 for institutional assets.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id172924722600:00 - Intro01:32 - Don’s background & founding DRW03:59 - DRW’s early crypto bets (Cumberland, Bitcoin, Digital Asset)07:37 - Cumberland’s role in crypto liquidity09:50 - Institutional adoption of DeFi11:45 - U.S. crypto regulation updates14:02 - The genesis of Digital Asset & Canton Network17:18 - Why privacy matters in institutional blockchain24:14 - Tokenizing real-world assets (RWA) on Canton27:28 - Canton's 5-10 year outlook28:58 - What excites Don most about finance & tech today

In this episode, we sit down with Yuval Rooz, CEO & Co-founder of Digital Asset, the company behind Canton Network—the leading blockchain for regulated finance, trusted by Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Börse, and more.Canton isn’t just another L1—it’s the future of onchain finance, blending institutional-grade infrastructure with DeFi’s composability.

Tune in to learn how it’s bridging TradFi and crypto, without compromises.

We dive into:

🔹 Canton’s $135M strategic round (backed by Citadel, Goldman Sachs, Circle & more)

🔹 Why privacy ≠ anonymity—and why it’s critical for institutional DeFi

🔹 How Canton scales horizontally while maintaining seamless interoperability

🔹 $4T+ in tokenized assets already on Canton (and why you haven’t heard about it)

🔹 Real-world use cases from NASDAQ, Tradeweb, and beyond

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00:00 - 01:14 – Introduction & Canton’s Momentum

01:14 - 03:15 – Yuval’s Background: Finance to Crypto

03:15 - 06:10 – Building Canton: The Early Days

06:10 - 12:10 – Canton’s Core Innovations

12:10 - 17:04 – Architecture Deep Dive

17:04 - 23:20 – Institutional Use Cases

23:20 - 28:17 – Ecosystem & Validators

28:17 - 35:38 – Why Canton’s Flying Under the Radar

35:38 - 41:48 – Future of Canton

41:48 - 52:20 – Rapid-Fire Q&A52:20 - End – Closing Remarks

In this conversation, Vaibhav Tyagi from Capx.ai discusses the evolution and significance of AI agents within the crypto ecosystem. He shares his background in product development and how he transitioned into the crypto space, emphasizing the intersection of AI and blockchain technology.Being an Actively Validated Service on both EigenLayer and Symbiotic, Tyagi explains why this choice was made and what the benefits behind it are. Tyagi explains the concept of autonomous AI agents, their differences from traditional bots, and the potential they hold for the future. He also outlines Capx.ai's role in facilitating the development and deployment of AI agents, highlighting the importance of a dedicated blockchain for these agents and the need for seamless user experiences in the crypto space. In this conversation, Tyagi from Capx.ai discusses the innovative features of Capx chain, focusing on tokenization for AI agents, the integration of Capx Cloud with both Web2 and Web3 solutions, and the importance of decentralization. He elaborates on the roadmap for Capx, including the upcoming mainnet launch and the significance of revenue metrics for AI agents. The discussion also touches on the intriguing world of meme coins and their impact on the crypto landscape.

PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226Curious to know more about Kiln?👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter00:00 Introduction to AI Agents and Tyagi's Background07:18 Understanding AI Agents in Crypto12:45 The Intersection of AI and Crypto22:18 The Future of AI Agents and Blockchain Agnosticism30:12 Capx Cloud: Bridging Web2 and Web3 Solutions39:25 Decentralization and Node Structures in Capx Cloud47:13 Roadmap and Future Developments for Capx52:24 AI Agents and Revenue Metrics

In this conversation, Sébastien Rannou and Loïc Titren from Kiln co-host Terence Tsao, Core Ethereum Developer at Offchain Labs. Together, they discuss the upcoming Ethereum upgrade known as Pectra, focusing on its implications for the consensus layer and the development process behind it. Terence shares his journey in Ethereum development, the challenges faced in implementing various EIPs, and the importance of testing in the upgrade process. The discussion also touches on the future of Ethereum, the role of Prysm in the ecosystem, and the anticipated changes with the Beam Chain.

RESSOURCES MENTIONED:

🧵 Ethereum Magicians thread:

https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/pectra-retrospective/22637/32

📄 Hash-Based Multi-Signatures for Post-Quantum Ethereum whitepaper:

https://eprint.iacr.org/2025/055.pdf

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👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter00:00 Introduction to Ethereum and Guests06:27 Insights on the Pectra Upgrade14:38 Prism's Role in EIP Implementation21:11 Technical Debt in Consensus Clients28:36 Reflections on Go and Prism's Architecture34:24 Retrospective on Pectra's Development40:01 Resources and Recommendations

In this episode of the Kiln Bitcoin Staking Rendez-Vous, Engin Erdogan, VP of Product at Thesis*, discusses his journey in the crypto space, the mission of Thesis*, and the innovative Mezo network. He emphasizes the importance of user experience and product market fit in developing Bitcoin-based products, particularly in the context of staking and bridging Bitcoin to enhance its utility. In this conversation, Engin Erdogan discusses the intricacies of TBTC, its role in Bitcoin staking, and the roadmap for Mezo. He emphasizes the importance of making Bitcoin more productive and useful, while also addressing the cultural shifts within the Bitcoin community and the broader crypto ecosystem. The discussion highlights the potential for Bitcoin staking protocols and the future of Bitcoin as a financial infrastructure.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226Curious to know more about Kiln?👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter00:00 Introduction to Engin Erdogan and Thesis*06:06 Understanding Mezo: Architecture and Purpose12:04 The Importance of Product Market Fit17:59 Bridging Bitcoin to Mezo for Staking28:10 Understanding TBTC and Its Role in Bitcoin Staking40:40 The Vision for Bitcoin Staking51:12 The Future of Bitcoin in the Crypto Ecosystem

In this episode, Edgar Roth and Sébastien Rannou from Kiln engage with Jonas, Co-Founder, and CTO of Chainbound, to discuss the evolution of blockchain technology, focusing on Chainbound's projects, including Fiber, Echo, and Bolt. They delve into the concept of pre-confirmations, the challenges faced in designing Bolt, and the importance of economic security. The conversation also touches on the future of pre-confirmations in Ethereum, the role of restaking and shared security, and the implications of a universal registry contract. Additionally, they explore the intersection of AI and blockchain, offering insights for new builders in the space.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226Curious to know more about Kiln?👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter00:00 Introduction to Chainbound05:56 Exploring Chainbound's Projects: Fiber and Echo11:47 Challenges in Designing Bolt and Economic Security18:03 Universal Registry Contracts and Their Impact23:57 Shared Security and Restaking in Chainbound's Vision32:42 Understanding Kiln's Operator Registration Process38:17 The Role of Restaking in Simplifying Protocols44:36 Exploring Interests Beyond Blockchain50:17 Recommended Resources for Blockchain Enthusiasts

In this episode, Edgar Roth, Protocol Specialist at Kiln, and Sébastien Rannou, Principal Engineer at Kiln engage with Murat Akdeniz, CEO & Co-Founder at Primev. They discuss his journey into blockchain and the evolution of pre-confirmations and MEV in Ethereum. They explore the significance of mev-commit, the role of restaking, and the economic incentives for validators. The conversation delves into the future of Ethereum, the competitive landscape of block building, and the integration of AI in Web3.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226Curious to know more about Kiln?👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter00:00 Introduction to Blockchain and Crypto Journey05:50 Exploring mev-commit and Its Ecosystem11:41 Incentives for Validators in Primev19:10 Future Products and Features in Pre-Confirmations25:35 The Competitive Landscape of Block Building30:50 User Flow and Integration with Symbiotic38:58 The Future of Ethereum and Web3

In this episode, Edgar Roth, Protocol Specialist at Kiln, hosts Georgi Koreli, CEO & Co-Founder at Hinkal. Together, they discuss the evolution of privacy in blockchain technology, the challenges of compliance, and the innovative solutions Hinkal is developing to enhance user privacy. He emphasizes the importance of integrating privacy into the user experience and the future of DeFi privacy. The discussion also covers cross-chain privacy, user demographics, and the technical innovations that Hinkal is implementing to ensure secure and private transactions on public blockchains. PODCAST INFO: 🌐 Website: https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts 🟢 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSL... 🟣 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Curious to know more about Kiln? 👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/ 👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance 👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter 00:00 Introduction to Hinkal and Georgi's Background 06:01 Hinkal's Approach to Privacy Solutions 11:49 Compliance and Privacy Protocols 18:10 Technical Innovations in Hinkal 24:04 Future Roadmap and Vision for Privacy 29:54 Closing Thoughts and How to Get Involved

In this conversation, Misha, Co-Founder of Symbiotic, and Edgar Roth, Protocol Specialist at Kiln, discuss the evolution of shared security in blockchain technology, the importance of modular shared security, and the innovative concept of collateral abstraction. Misha shares insights on the user journey within the Symbiotic protocol, emphasizing flexibility and the learning process from past successes and failures in the industry. Edgar Roth and Misha discuss the intricacies of blockchain security, focusing on the upcoming launch of Symbiotic's mainnet. They delve into the implications of lockup periods, the role of Symbiotic in the broader blockchain ecosystem, and the incentives for restakers post-launch. Misha outlines the roadmap for network integration and the team's focus on optimization after the mainnet launch. The discussion also touches on the evolution of stakers, the future of shared security platforms, and Misha's personal interests in AI and Web3 innovations. PODCAST INFO: 🌐 Website: https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts 🟢 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSL... 🟣 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Curious to know more about Kiln? 👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/ 👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance 👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter 00:00 Introduction to Misha and Symbiotic 02:49 The Evolution of Shared Security 06:00 Learning from Successes and Failures 08:54 Understanding Modular Shared Security 11:48 The Concept of Collateral Abstraction 15:09 User Journey in Symbiotic 17:57 The Lifecycle of Staking in Symbiotic 29:27 Understanding Lockup Periods in Blockchain 30:38 The Role of Symbiotic in the Blockchain Ecosystem 33:02 Incentives for Restakers Post-Mainnet Launch 36:11 Network Launch Plans and Roadmap 38:35 Post-Mainnet Focus and Optimization Strategies 42:13 The Evolution of Stakers and Shared Security 44:00 The Future of Shared Security Platforms 47:32 Passions Beyond Work: AI and Web3 Innovations

In this conversation, Jean-Marie Mognetti, CEO and Co-Founder at CoinShares, and Laszlo Szabo, CEO and Co-Founder at Kiln, discuss the significant milestones in the DeFi space, including the impressive growth of digital asset investment products. He shares insights into his journey into crypto, the evolution of CoinShares, and the challenges faced in the distribution and regulation of crypto products. The conversation also delves into the importance of staking and the strategic decisions behind product offerings in the crypto market. In this conversation, Jean-Marie Mognetti discusses the strategic positioning of CoinShares in the competitive landscape of financial products, particularly in relation to giants like BlackRock. He emphasizes the importance of offering high-value products and the unique expertise CoinShares brings to the table. The discussion also covers the company's growth strategy in the US market, the evolving landscape of DeFi, and the challenges of KYC regulations. Jean-Marie shares insights on tokenization and the future of financial services, highlighting the need for agility and focus in a rapidly changing environment. PODCAST INFO: 🌐 Website: https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts 🟢 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1 🟣 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226 Curious to know more about Kiln? 👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/ 👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter 00:00 Celebrating Milestones in DeFi 02:54 The Journey into Crypto 05:50 Understanding ETPs and Their Market Position 09:02 The Evolution of Client Demographics 11:58 Challenges in Distribution and Regulation 15:03 Strategizing Product Offerings in Crypto 17:57 The Importance of Staking in Crypto Products 28:23 The Value of High-Quality Financial Products 29:52 Competing with Giants: CoinShares vs. BlackRock 32:14 Strategic Growth in the US Market 36:35 The Future of DeFi and Traditional Finance 43:35 Navigating KYC and Regulatory Challenges 48:18 Tokenization and the Role of CoinShares 53:12 Looking Ahead: Predictions for 2025