Matt Chenard (Part 2)

Comfort doesn’t prepare you for pressure — resistance does.

In Part 2 of this conversation, Matt Chenard breaks down why modern comfort is weakening discipline, resilience, and leadership. From extreme cold exposure to fasting, silence, and intentional discomfort, Matt explains why choosing hardship trains you for life’s real tests — not just the moment.

You’ll learn:

• Why comfort fuels complacency
  Easy habits compound weakness; resistance compounds strength.

• How hardship trains leadership before pressure hits
  Discipline is practiced in advance, not built in crisis.

• Why time is your most valuable currency
  Every habit is a deposit toward future strength — or future sickness.

This episode is for leaders, entrepreneurs, and men who want to build lives that can withstand pressure instead of collapsing under it.

Follow Matt Chenard:https://www.instagram.com/mattchenard/

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Discipline doesn’t break down because of lack of motivation, it breaks down when identity is misplaced.

In this episode of Kill Complacency, Marty sits down with Matt Chenard, CEO of Greater Purpose Health & Fitness, to unpack why true consistency starts with identity, not habits. From losing hockey to concussions, to building a gym from a backyard garage, to coaching Christian entrepreneurs, Matt explains how misplaced identity leads to burnout, addiction, and drift — even in good things.

You’ll learn:

• Identity precedes discipline
  When worth is tied to performance, fitness, or success, consistency collapses the moment those things are threatened.

• Good things become dangerous when they become ultimate things
  Exercise, work, and ambition are meant to be stewarded — not worshipped.

• Choosing hard things builds long-term resilience
  Practices like cold exposure, training, and intentional discomfort develop emotional control, clarity, and purpose.

For men who want to lead their families well, build businesses with integrity, and live intentionally without drifting into comfort or burnout.

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What happens when you choose an unconventional path early?

Noah Harold shares how rejecting the traditional route led him to entrepreneurship, global travel, and intentional living.

You’ll learn:

• The freedom vs. security trade-off in entrepreneurship

• How travel reshaped his worldview

• Why intentional habits shape long-term fulfillment

For anyone questioning the “default” life path

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PT 2: Nicole Laughton joins Marty Hofmann to share her story. She is an ultrarunner who has run thousands of miles and knows what it means to push through when it gets hard. Nicole explains how comparison can ruin your life and she shares her HARDEST times running.

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PT 1: Nicole Laughton joins Marty Hofmann to share her story. She is an ultrarunner who has run thousands of miles and knows what it means to push through when it gets hard. Nicole shares how she balances being a wife, mom and ultrarunner and inspires intentionality throughout this whole episode.

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PART 2: Ben Harris AKA "The Fear Guy" joins Marty Hofmann to share how his journey to discovering what fear is and how it impacts us, has changed his life. He shares what fear is and how embracing it can grow us and help us accomplish our biggest dreams.

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PART 1: Ben Harris AKA "The Fear Guy" joins Marty Hofmann to share how his journey to discovering what fear is and how it impacts us, has changed his life. He shares what fear is and how embracing it can grow us and help us accomplish our biggest dreams.

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PART 2: Zack Davis joins Marty Hofmann to share his success in real estate and how he is now embracing life to the fullest. He explains how important it is to take risks and that who and what we let influence us impacts us more than we realize.

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PART 1: Zack Davis joins Marty Hofmann to share his success in real estate and how he is now embracing life to the fullest. He explains how important it is to take risks and that who and what we let influence us impacts us more than we realize.

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PART 2: Justin Mosley joins Marty Hofmann to share his incredible journey to where he is now. Justin has thrived in the short-term rental community and is now building a $4.5 million home for him and his family. Listen in on his inspiring journey.

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PART 1: Justin Mosley joins Marty Hofmann to share his incredible journey to where he is now. Justin has thrived in the short-term rental community and is now building a $4.5 million home for him and his family. Listen in on his inspiring journey.

FOLLOW JUSTIN:

https://www.facebook.com/justin.mosley1

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-c-mosley-msc-43b93b39/

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PART 2: Jon Bloodworth joins Marty Hofmann to talk about how he has broken his family cycle of constantly staying unfit and unhealthy. He shares his journey and also explains how impactful a person's environment can be on the most important things.

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PART 1: Jon Bloodworth joins Marty Hofmann to talk about how he has broken his family cycle of constantly staying unfit and unhealthy. He shares his journey and also explains how impactful a person's environment can be on the most important things.

FOLLOW JON:

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https://www.facebook.com/crosshound

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Entrepreneurship didn’t start with a business plan - it started with curiosity.

Noah Harold reflects on how early discipline, faith, and adaptability shaped his journey.

You’ll learn:

• How childhood habits influence adult success

• Why experiences matter more than possessions

• How to adapt when life doesn’t go as planned

For young builders and lifelong learners.

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PART 3: Roshan Kalra joins Marty Hofmann to share how he has dramatically turned his life around. With over $750,000 in debt, Roshan knew that he had to find a way to pay it off. He began to invest in real estate and has not only paid all of his debt off, but is a perfect example of F.I.R.E. - Financially Independent Retire Early.

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PART 2: Roshan Kalra joins Marty Hofmann to share how he has dramatically turned his life around. With over $750,000 in debt, Roshan knew that he had to find a way to pay it off. He began to invest in real estate and has not only paid all of his debt off, but is a perfect example of F.I.R.E. - Financially Independent Retire Early.

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 https://www.facebook.com/roshankalra

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PART 1: Roshan Kalra joins Marty Hofmann to share how he has dramatically turned his life around. With over $750,000 in debt, Roshan knew that he had to find a way to pay it off. He began to invest in real estate and has not only paid all of his debt off, but is a perfect example of F.I.R.E. - Financially Independent Retire Early.

FOLLOW ROSHAN: https://www.facebook.com/roshankalra

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PART 2: Sisters Serene and Pearl share how they tried everything they could to feel better in their bodies, but it only left them feeling even more broken. That is where they started their journey to writing the book "Trim Healthy Mama", creating a revolutionary movement of people who have been able to completely turn their lives around.

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PART 1: Sisters Serene and Pearl share how they tried everything they could to feel better in their bodies, but it only left them feeling even more broken. That is where they started their journey to writing the book "Trim Healthy Mama", creating a revolutionary movement of people who have been able to completely turn their lives around.

FOLLOW SERENE AND PEARL:

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PART 2: Ben Bender joins Marty Hofmann to share a huge amount of knowledge. He shares how accountability, even if it is with your former self, can dramatically improve your life. Ben and Marty talk about how easy it is to be influenced in this culture and how there is no success without failure.

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PART 1: Ben Bender joins Marty Hofmann to share a huge amount of knowledge. He shares how accountability, even if it is with your former self, can dramatically improve your life. Ben and Marty talk about how easy it is to be influenced in this culture and how there is no success without failure.

FOLLOW BEN:

https://www.instagram.com/bbenderrrrr/

https://www.facebook.com/benjamin.bender.96995

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Keziah Montgomery joins Marty Hofmann to share how she is intentional with her phone and things she has found to limit her time on screens. She provides a wealth of information that, if you embrace, could change your life for the better.

BOOKS TO READ:

Glow Kids by Nicholas Kardaras

Until The Streetlights Come on by Ginny Yurich

How To Break Up With Your Phone by Catherine Price

Digital Minimalism by Cal Newport

ARO BOX:

https://open.spotify.com/show/1CLMsd99gDkmO9Q6dgM0oL?si=8333b29bc929404d⁠https://www.goaro.com/⁠

APPS TO HELP WITH SCREEN TIME:

https://www.intenty.app/

https://www.indistractable.xyz/

https://www.stayfocused.me/

HABIT APP:

⁠https://habitshareapp.com/⁠

PART 2: Sarah Miskelly joins Marty Hofmann as she talks about her journey and how she has gotten to the amazing place she is, now. Sarah now lives in Costa Rica but that's not where her journey started. FOLLOW SARAH: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-miskelly/ FOLLOW MARTY: https://linktr.ee/martyh

Sarah Miskelly joins Marty Hofmann as she talks about her journey and how she has gotten to the amazing place she is, now. Sarah now lives in Costa Rica but that's not where her journey started. FOLLOW SARAH: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-miskelly/⁠ FOLLOW MARTY: ⁠https://linktr.ee/martyh

Most relationship conflict isn’t about the present - it’s about the past.

This episode breaks down how attachment wounds shape communication, conflict, and emotional reactions.

You’ll learn:

• Why people react so differently in conflict

• How childhood patterns show up in adult relationships

• Practical steps toward emotional security

For anyone who wants healthier, more connected relationships.

Follow Marc & Amy Cameron:

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PART 2: Rose Olmos joins Marty Hofmann to share her journey. She immigrated with her husband and children to America from Mexico and became a very successful businesswoman. Now, she is a real estate investor who strives to work hard. ROSE: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosa-e-tejado-a5b7341a5/⁠ MARTY: ⁠https://linktr.ee/martyh

PART 1: Rose Olmos joins Marty Hofmann to share her journey. She immigrated with her husband and children to America from Mexico and became a very successful businesswoman. Now, she is a real estate investor who strives to work hard.

ROSE: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosa-e-tejado-a5b7341a5/

MARTY: https://linktr.ee/martyh

Brant Hansen joins Marty Hofmann JUST in time for Father's Day, to share about the CRISIS our world is facing, in regards to the men that we desperately need. FOLLOW BRANT: https://www.facebook.com/branthansenpage/https://branthansen.com/ FOLLOW MARTY: https://linktr.ee/martyh

PART 2: Bennett Schwartz joins Marty Hofmann to share how he is a performance coach for young adults. He explains how to find your why and how shifting your expectations when it comes to your goals and dreams, is so vital in your journey. Bennett also shares how he journals frequently and how it can change your life for the better, even if it means spending only a few minutes each day. BENNETT: https://www.bwschwartz.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/bennett-schwartz-2b7346211/ MARTY: https://linktr.ee/martyh

PART 1: Bennett Schwartz joins Marty Hofmann to share how he is a performance coach for young adults. He explains how to find your why and how shifting your expectations when it comes to your goals and dreams, is so vital in your journey. Bennett also shares how he journals frequently and how it can change your life for the better, even if it means spending only a few minutes each day. BENNETT: https://www.bwschwartz.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/bennett-schwartz-2b7346211/

MARTY:

https://linktr.ee/martyh

PART 2: Chris Schwagerl joins Marty Hofmann to share how he is a performance psychologist for real estate syndicators. He has so many great things to share and there is SO much in this episode! You will learn from his experience and wisdom as he shares his knowledge. CHECK OUT CHRIS: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-schwagerl/⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/chrisschwagerl/⁠ CHECK OUT MARTY: https://linktr.ee/martyh

PART 1: Chris Schwagerl joins Marty Hofmann to share how he is a performance psychologist for real estate syndicators. He has so many great things to share and there is SO much in this episode! You will learn from his experience and wisdom as he shares his knowledge. CHECK OUT CHRIS: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-schwagerl/ https://www.instagram.com/chrisschwagerl/ CHECK OUT MARTY: https://linktr.ee/martyh

PART 2: AJ Smith joins Marty Hofmann to share his story. He previously worked at the grocery store, Aldi, as a district manager. Now, he has been a lead partner in over $1.3 MILLION real estate deals, and he has continually been doing 75 hard, over and over again. CHECK OUT AJ: https://www.instagram.com/young_refi/ https://www.facebook.com/agent.smith563 CHECK OUT MARTY: https://linktr.ee/martyh

AJ Smith joins Marty Hofmann to share his story. He previously worked at the grocery store, Aldi, as a district manager. Now, he has been a lead partner in over $1.3 MILLION real estate deals, and he has continually been doing 75 hard, over and over again. CHECK OUT AJ: https://www.instagram.com/young_refi/ https://www.facebook.com/agent.smith563 CHECK OUT MARTY: https://linktr.ee/martyh

Marty Hofmann shares about a book he recently read called "Who Moved My Cheese?" He challenges you to think about what you would do if you had no fear and if you did not fear control you.

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Your attachment style influences how you love - whether you realize it or not.

Marc and Amy Cameron explain the five attachment styles and how they develop.

You’ll learn:

• How attachment styles form in childhood

• Why certain patterns repeat in relationships

• How awareness leads to healthier connection

For couples and individuals seeking emotional clarity.

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Kris Krohn joins Marty Hofmann to share his story. He struggled financially but was able to push past that and become extremely successful. He now owns over 6,500 houses and continues to expand his business. His story is an inspiring example of what hard work, determination and knowledge can do, together.

CHECK OUT KRIS:

https://www.youtube.com/@KrisKrohn https://www.kriskrohn.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/mentorwithkris/

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PART 2: Pamela Greening joins Marty Hofmann to share her journey of how she and several others created a credit union. Pamela has such a heart for helping others find financial freedom and you will love hearing her share her passion.

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PART 1: Pamela Greening joins Marty Hofmann to share her journey of how she and several others created a credit union. Pamela has such a heart for helping others find financial freedom and you will love hearing her share her passion.

CHECK OUT PAMELA:

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PART 2: Carlos Jimeniz joins Marty Hofmann to share his story. He immigrated to America and even though he didn't start out wealthy, Carlos has now built a business for himself. Listen to hear his inspiring story!

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PART 1: Carlos Jimeniz joins Marty Hofmann to share his story. He immigrated to America and even though he didn't start out wealthy, Carlos has now built a business for himself. Listen to hear his inspiring story!

CHECK OUT Carlos:

 https://www.instagram.com/carloscloses/ 

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PART 2: Justin Brown joins Marty Hofmann to share his story about previously being a real estate agent and how he is now a broker. Justin shares his FOUR pillars of business and how they have helped him in his life. CHECK OUT JUSTIN ON SOCIAL! https://www.instagram.com/justingarybrown https://www.facebook.com/justin.g.brown http://www.lighthouserealtylv.com/

PART 1: Justin Brown joins Marty Hofmann to share his story about previously being a real estate agent and how he is now a broker. Justin shares his FOUR pillars of business and how they have helped him in his life. CHECK OUT JUSTIN ON SOCIAL! https://www.instagram.com/justingarybrown https://www.facebook.com/justin.g.brown

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PART 2: Andrew Cross joins Marty Hofmann to share his story. He mowed lawns at a young age but as he grew older, was influenced by the wrong people and got involved in drugs. Listen to hear how he has turned his life around and the advice he gives to the listeners.

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PART 1: Andrew Cross joins Marty Hofmann to share his story. He mowed lawns at a young age but as he grew older, was influenced by the wrong people and got involved in drugs. Listen to hear how he has turned his life around and the advice he gives to the listeners.

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Marty Hofmann is interviewed by Brady Sampson to talk about his story. He shares how he was a youth pastor in Montana and being a professional sheep shearer. He has done over 80 real estate transactions and shares how he got to where he is, today.

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Failure teaches faster than success - if you’re willing to listen.

Walter Bowser shares lessons from costly mistakes in real estate and leadership.

You’ll learn:

• How to recover after financial loss

• Why delegation is essential for growth

• How purpose sustains resilience

For leaders learning through adversity.

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We recorded this episode last October but hadn't posted it yet.

Keziah Montgomery joins Marty Hofmann to discuss how she is intentional in life. Keziah got married at 18, self-published a children's book and bought a house for $27,500. She shares her stories and advice on creating goals that are achievable.

Check out Keziah's Socials:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kizzymonty03/

Facebook: Facebook

Book: https://wsbabortionbook.com/

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Steve Montgomery joins Marty Hofmann to share about how he has been intentional with raising his eight children. While balancing his insurance business, Steve has been able to give his children a structured and safe environment which they have thrived in. Listen in to be inspired by this incredible father and businessman! Check out Steve's insurance business:

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Steve Montgomery joins Marty Hofmann to share about how he has been intentional with raising his eight children. While balancing his insurance business, Steve has been able to give his children a structured and safe environment which they have thrived in. Listen in to be inspired by this incredible father and businessman!

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⁠http://www.montgomeryintegra.com/⁠

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